 think there's a I think there's a California hair virus today cuz my hair looks I'd I showered I think yours looks good I don't know feels like feels really limp the body it usually has Justin yeah this has been a weird day man we're Thursday I didn't get my run-in today because I had to do the morning stream mm-hmm doing a way that's a weird Thursday thing for you usually do Tuesdays right no Brian was out and so instead of canceling the show so you coasted yeah so I did the now now jealous not that I could have done it but that's that's awesome that sounds fun yeah no when it went good and we want to go like an hour with Wendy talking about dead be deads of course when I kind of loves talking dads with you I think well here's the problem is that I always make fun of Scott and Wendy because no matter what no matter what who emails in they wind up talking about their dad uh-huh and so I feel like if Scott had this kind of mechanization in his head that he would definitely he definitely tricked me into talking about my dad more than they talked about their dad I got caught is what I'm trying to say yeah yeah yeah for sure I just I always want this got to be careful you always what's what's fathers start coming up I always want to say inappropriate things yeah because my dad died yeah 2004 and I just I started one yeah my dad died in 2005 and looked at it turned out who knows maybe I got a ghost dad you never know listen I don't know this Facebook request I should pay more attention by the way update I did not talk on the phone in the car yesterday afternoon were you going to talk about mentioned the dilemma during yesterday's show Shane on the other hand is joining us from his bicycle ride which is not as bad as a car I guess by sickle by sickle it's 130 230 mountain let's go you ready go tech news a daily frontier to explain advancing technologies and how they affect you to seek out new gadgets apps and picks of the day these are the continuing missions of 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headlines is a new show set to launch in July with just the headlines like a 10-minute show separate show and I accidentally uploaded the wrong file into the SoundCloud took me a while to get it if you didn't get yesterday's full show it is there at Daily Tech News show dot com or if you delete the headline show from your podcatcher and re-upload you should get the appropriate show that was all on me apologies for that but hey guess what now you know we have a headline show coming so there you go I mean listen don't try to hoodwink me Mary viral marketing not lost I already had a head of these out there started to accuse me like very interesting way mistake you made there not how I was planning to announce that but that is very exciting I know you've been working a lot on it all right let's get into some top stories that's why we're calling them top stories at Lenovo's tech world 2016 in San Francisco the company teased a bendable phone that folds around the wrist and a tablet that folds in half just on the heels of talking about bendable screens with Samsung and now we got some coming by the end of the year according to the verge a quick demo with Megan McCarthy of the internet famous youtuber I guess showed the tablet and bendable phone with a working screen slapped it on the wrist for instance tablet is designed to start folded and work like a phablet with screens on both sides and then it could fold out into a 10-inch tablet I actually kind of think there could be something here I don't know if it's a full feature phone but I could certainly see something that has a functionality at the right price point that is glow all around your wrist jewelry although that's never been the right path right no one ever no one's ever successfully sold tech jewelry have they well you'll get arguments about the watches but not you know let's exclude watches you are yeah outside of that no I don't I don't think so yet so I was very excited about the idea of a wrist we had an email yesterday was somebody suggested the wrist thing maybe they work for Lenovo and they were trying to leak it I don't know but I was like yeah Wonder Woman style I kind of like that idea of just having it on there and then I could as long as I could pull it off and bend it out and use it as a regular phone to I said they're coming this year I don't know if they're coming this year these were concepts that they showed up on stage they actually have some original product announcements as well yeah speaking to those Lenovo announced $199 fab 2 and $299 fab 2 plus coming in September like the original original fab again phab they feature a 6.4 inch display metal body but upgraded internals that to pro however is the first phone to come with Google's project tango that means a wide-angle camera and depth set and depth sensing sensor say that seven times fast comes along with the 16 megabit so camera it can it can be the fab 2 pro can map out a physical space track objects and project virtual effects in a real-world space Lenovo expects about 25 apps to be available in their special app store when the phone launches in September for 499 dollars so I'm pretty exciting we're getting a project tango phone not crazy expensive either at 500 bucks well when you consider like that it's got all this motion sense like it can do augmented reality granted not with your eyes but in the phone that's I'm interested I guess Lowe's home improvement is gonna have an app for this you can like position stuff in your house and see how it fit or remodel etc you know it's it's interesting however I feel like these kinds of products are the products that come before the products that really make a difference does have that feel doesn't it yeah yeah motor all announced the 5.5 inch moto Z that's the new flagship phone succeeding the moto X the 5.19 millimeter moto Z and the slightly thicker moto Z force do not have headphone jacks le echo is the first of the smart phone makers to get rid of the headphone jack Motorola is the biggest so far to do that a USB C to mini jack adapter however will be included with the phone so they've at least given you a bit of a sav there big feature is moto mods both phones have magnetic connectors on the back for a variety of accessories Motorola mentioned launch they'll have a Pico projector of their own speaker upgrade from JBL and battery packs from incipio to me and Kate spade so these are fashionable battery packs phones come as droid editions on Verizon this summer and unlocked from Motorola's website this autumn the moto Z will arrive internationally in September no moto Z force coming outside the US though all right now pause to note that it's very like you can just imagine the back padding in the marketing department well what comes after moto X a universally recognized as cool letter moto Z we're not gonna do moto why because of the jokes so it's a moto Z so the only thing that Z has been incorporated that is cool is zombies and you can make your own jokes about how Motorola as a company has shambled from parent company that's few years as far as this goes I mean the biggest thing trend-wise that you can look at it is that you know start as if we have not already seen enough you know whispers in the winds you can start dinging the funeral bells for headphone jacks for all phones right like it is over and the next iPhone's not gonna have one which is something that it's been rumored forever I think that we're just always going to be looking at plugging into our our power jack and then hopefully having some kind of adapter for any legacy devices if we could get Bluetooth to work better not just sound wise it's it's getting better sound wise but but the the convenience factor the pairing of Bluetooth headsets is not on par with being able to just plug in a headphone right I love having wireless because then I don't like wrap it around a handle while I'm cooking or or put my fist through it while I'm running and yank the headphones out of my ears that's great but I have to pair it with something and then when I want to use it with my iPad it's like oh now I have to repair oh I'm gonna use it with my Nexus 9 now I have to repair I have to go through this dance they need to come up with a better way of managing that then I won't really mind the fact that I can't do a headphone jack without yeah again though like I've got running headphones that I use every single day I love them their Bluetooth it's not pairing that's the problem it's charging like yeah that's true too I'm to a point now where I have you know just five devices every single night that I need to plug in between my watch my phone and my headphones like I don't I don't I don't know battery life needs to get better of course that's a rising tide that slowly kind of envelopes everything but I I I don't know if Bluetooth right now is ready for that kind of prime time yeah the plan tronics that I used to have for wireless they were a bit of a battery suck but the epics I have can go about a week and I use them regularly listening to audiobooks and podcasts and stuff so yeah I feel like that's getting better too that at least is a problem I can expect to be solved I don't know that anybody's working on the on fixing the pairing interface well I mean that the latest pairing the latest I think it's Bluetooth 3 I might be remembering that incorrectly is very very good I found it to be far more reliable than anything else I've ever had I pairing with those headphones are very very easy it's literally just hold the thing it automatically sets its pairing signal I've been able to sync it with my iPhone iPad very very easily and then once it's there it's there forever I don't know I mean the problem with the battery thing for me is that it's not the seven times it works it's the ones that doesn't mind that it doesn't which anybody that's good point anybody who's on their earphones knows that is our true true hell Google announced a new feature for Android called nearby that will suggest applications and websites based on your location notification alert alerts the user of apps and sites the Broad Museum United Airlines University of Notre Dame Airside Mobile Passport and CVS all have built-in proximity based experiences with beacons to trigger nearby alerts it's rolling out on the next Google Play service release and if you're wondering nearby notifications are opt-in so get your opt-out fingers ready no they're opted that means you won't get this unless you go in and turn it on oh sure yeah yeah so you won't have to I didn't want people to feel like they had to opt out no no no I mean your opt-out fingers like jazz hands because you're never going to you're going to use them for that and not ever turning this on I could I could see turning this on that's the funny thing like I could see turning this on when I'm going somewhere that I know has it but then why wouldn't I just turn it like download the app I'm not sure yeah I'm not sure that I needed this I guess if it's not going to be abused which eventually it might in malls and places like that it could it could be a really nice thing if I'm traveling on vacation and I get you know museum apps like oh I didn't really I didn't remember to download this one I can do it now this is one of those things where the problem isn't the tech the tech is cool I like the tech the tech could be useful here's the problem mobile websites are usually garbage most apps are usually garbage when it comes to just being for one place or one thing like I can't I like the United app now the United app for a long time used to be hot garbage so the CVS app is kind of sucks you know there's a lot of these even museum apps some are good some are trying to the museum's trying to keep their doors open and they're not so much worried about paying a developer to make a super super super rad app so I don't know it's it's a good for them for doing it I don't know how much it'll ever get used yeah I like the idea that you know an airline would say hey we have an inflight entertainment system will automatically alert you of that when you're near the gate saying hey did you did you download your app for the flight yet you should do that but then again the good ones I know Delta does it this way allow you to download the app off of the internal server on the plane too so it's not the end of the world yeah Uber is rolling out scheduled rides in Seattle about a month after Lyft did the same so in other words you don't just call it when you need it you can schedule it far in advance Lyft allows you to schedule rides up to 24 hours in advance so Uber said ha we'll let you schedule from 30 minutes to 30 days in advance you'll get reminders if you did those 30 days in advance you're gonna need these you get reminders 24 hours and 30 minutes before your ride is coming other business travel cities will follow Seattle and in fact they're really pitching this towards business because if you have a business account or if you're included on your company's business account you'll have priority access to scheduling if there's only so many cars available to schedule yeah this you know Uber and Lyft both looking for ways that they can become more reliable utilities to people they want to be able to feel for business travelers like a good alternative to renting a car or hailing taxis all over the place I think they've effectively displaced taxis are about as good as they're going to get for people that want to engage in Uber or Lyft's kind of traction but this gives listen Tom when you're traveling are you right fly by the seat of your pants guy or are you meticulously plan everything out on an itinerary guy I'm an I love tripping so I love having an itinerary I like to have things planned out so that said I have not scheduled my Lyft ride to the airport for this afternoon like yeah I'm not that itinerary focused but if it was the difference between you getting a rental car right and and just deciding that I'll just Uber from the airport and I'll Uber around while I'm doing stuff some people I feel like they would want the idea of having on their trip it that little hole being filled because there are maybe very in or attentive travelers I don't happen to be one of them but then again I've missed flights and had to book rental cars last minute so I'm probably not it's one of the reasons I follow you on Twitter leaked source posted Wednesday that it will receive more than 32 million Twitter that it received more than 32 million Twitter login credentials from a hacker going by Tessa 88 who also sent in hack credentials from VK last week leaked source believes the data was collected by malware infected browsers Twitter trust and information security officer Michael coats tweeted that the company is quote confident that our systems have not been breached security researchers now that authored you million accounts could be valid yeah there's a lot of people saying this isn't a real breach that a lot of those account credentials might be fake and they're just trying to make some money on the black market with them leaked source says they tried 15 of them by contacting users and saying hey is this in fact your password and the users confirmed yeah that was my password of course I've changed it by now but so there were some valid ones in there but it does make me think that Twitter didn't get hacked this is just somebody either cleverly compiling accounts from other leaks like the LinkedIn and Tumblr leaks that also happened to work on Twitter at one time or at some kind of malware infection yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt that I'm curious about this kind of story though because I feel like we are at a bit of an evolved place in terms of reporting on these sort of leaks like the idea that there is a hacker trying to make money by selling passwords on the dark web isn't exactly a novel you know invites dog kind of story but considering how many of these we've gotten I feel like a we're more sensitive to the idea that this is something being pushed out there and that it's more of a retail story my mom would care about whether or not you know her Twitter password is is out there in the wild now and that is a difference even from I think two or three years ago and it you know what it may have the beneficial effect of making people change their Twitter password if they haven't for years yeah which isn't necessarily a bad thing especially if those are people who happen to use that password in other places now they can have a unique one but but yeah this is this is becoming a commodity story isn't it yeah I'm going to text my mom and tell her to change your password Gloria change your password Tinder VP of communications rosette pambakian told TechCrunch the dating site will discontinue access to its service for anyone under 18 starting next week previously they allowed you from 13 to 17 to use Tinder but they only match you with other people in that same age range Tinder estimates the change will affect close to 3% of its global user base no more teen Dayton Justin read this story and the first thing I thought of was oh my god I can't believe that they had allowed that to happen up till now and them shutting this down has to be looked at as them dodging a bullet by not having something you know if we're already in a situation where tech winds up getting blamed for things that they probably shouldn't like teens crashing cars because they're trying to snapchat and stuff like that where is very very clearly irresponsible user error the idea of something horrible happening to a 14 year old because of somebody that they met on Tinder would be horrifying news for that platform and this is probably a very very very smart thing for them to have tightened up and there seems to be a movement to say hey let's make 18 the age for things not 13 even though the law said 13 there's there's I've seen a lot of talk about that so I think that's part of it too it sounds essentially like Tinder was operating two products they're like we're gonna do a teen dating product 13 to 17 and we're gonna have regular Tinder but it's all gonna be under the same name that's that's way too that's not cost effective if it's less than 3% of your audience so I I get the business reason for dumping this as well I mean just having a dating app for teens isn't a bad idea somebody should go in and do that with all the proper safeguards and risks that they want to take to do that because teens are gonna date they're gonna use something for that right so why not but I I see what you're saying which is because Tinder is perceived as an adult dating app anything that happened there would just be a nightmare for them aside from the fact that you know yeah you want to know what a great teen dating app is snapchat facebook twitter yik yak every other service for which has a high number of teen users that is how they date you want to know why cuz by and large most of them go to school together and they don't need apps to do a night out like an old man no I am not I'm not saying like the guests they interact with each other they find they find people over over the internet right like I'm just saying that the idea of Tinder is in an adult world where you are more segregated from other people and chances to meet strangers are slimmed down Tinder can bridge that gap for you I do think it's a fundamentally different issue for teens but then again I feel like it's even weird for us to talk about it yeah I I mean it would be weird if we were using it for sure I there are definitely other there are definitely other apps out there they're gonna allow teens to communicate for dates like you said some of it's just snapchat and others that aren't meant for that but there's hooked up I just looked that up just now that allows teen dating profiles so I mean that's how Facebook started I mean I granted it was college not not high school but still yeah speaking of virtual reality HTC has announced the five business edition for 1200 US or 849 pounds or 1,080 euros of course please go ahead and make sure that you check your exchange rate listening to this to make sure that those numbers are no those are list prices those are list prices sorry sorry the five business edition gets you the headset and accessories but adds a dedicated customer support line and a commercial license with a limited 12 month guarantee you're also allowed to buy more than one at a time which is pretty sweet the five business edition launches this month in Germany France and the UK Canada and the US with other markets to be added in the coming weeks so as a five owner and fanatic I was perusing reddit.com slash r slash five big shout out to the community and I noticed that there were a few articles of trend pieces that as far as virtual reality demos go at trade shows vibe seems to be the the most popular for people to you know show off their product in a virtual space that the idea of walking around and stuff like that provides a commercial advantage for them or at least that's what this piece made the point of saying so this story kind of interests me because it looks like HTC is seeing that as a market for which that they need to they need to go after they want to be able to accommodate if somebody says yeah I need to buy a fleet of ten of them because we're running ten different trade shows at the same time that five and HTC wants to be able to sell all ten. Yeah it's an interesting bulk markup approach right not bulk discount you take you get a 50 percent markup if you want to buy more than one and you want to be able to use it for commercial purposes but hey HTC must must think that the market will bear that price so they wouldn't have said it there there's also probably a little bit of them saying okay if we are going to allow people to buy more than one we don't want to suddenly have the business edition run us out of stock we get back into that nastiness so let's price it at an amount that will keep the orders at a level that we can handle. Bloomberg reports that Larry Page has funded two startups developing flying cars Z.Aero has been reported on before it launched in 2010 near Google headquarters in Mountain View and now employs close to 150 people with campuses in Hollister and at the NASA Ames Research Center it's only now that Bloomberg realizes that they can confirm because of their sources that Larry Page owns that the second startup he also owns but runs separately as a competitor to himself is Kitty Hawk launched last year in Mountain View a half mile away from Z in fact after the story posted all the people who had Kitty Hawk as their employer on LinkedIn have removed the name Kitty Hawk from their profiles it seems. Kitty Hawk's president is Sebastian Thrun that's from a financial filing that we know that he is probably best known as the founder of Google X the guy that got self-driving cars started over there. So yeah we're gonna this is gonna be our main topic do you have anything to mention before we we kick out of the headlines here? Where we're going this discussion won't need roads. Uh thanks to everybody who submits stories stories show dot reddit dot com you make the show better even if all you're doing is voting so get in there and join Runaway Snail, Motang, Loki Robert, Teaglass 1976, another Jay Martin strike it rich one and let us know what stories you are interested in the more people that vote the more helpful it is thanks to everybody for doing that that is a look at the top stories. All right man let's let's talk about this uh rich billionaire Larry Page uh apparently I mean this Bloomberg story has a lot of billionaire Larry Page does crazy things aspect of it for instance when Z Arrow started they were downstairs from Page's own man cave which had uh a treadmill-like climbing wall uh a SpaceX rocket that Elon Musk had given him uh you know and then they had to move all that stuff out when Z Arrow got got expanded but aside from that voyeuristic aspect of this story there's also just the idea that here's somebody who has enough money to be like you know I really want to make flying cars I so let me start up one company to do it and if that company doesn't seem to be working fast enough I'll just start another company to do it. Man Silicon Valley season three is going to be so good season four yes season four season four is going to be so sweet uh all right so number one flying cars some yet you're excited about in general in in the grand world of uh electronic vehicles autonomous vehicles flying cars go uh conceptually yes uh they they're by all accounts from lots of different engineers easier to to design for the for the autonomous part than the the self-driving cars because they don't have to deal with roads etc uh there's a lot lot more work that's done there uh scarier than self-driving cars I think because we're all scared of air travel more than we are of road travel even if road travel is more dangerous and and I don't know that I need it yeah I I'm more attracted to the idea of not having to own transportation but I guess if it's you know uber for flying cars which would just be uber bo uber flying car yeah um yeah maybe proven safe sure why not you also could possibly make the argument that it is on a has more momentum legally to get clear since we are already at a point where drone uh clarifications of drones legalization is something that already has uh a bit of speed to it the idea of putting people there although a quantum leap forward at least doesn't have to introduce a totally new concept like a driverless car uh wood to roads where people are going to be out there now whether or not it is exciting is is one thing the the likelihood of this going beyond Larry Page funding himself against himself is another I how much of this is just the the Larry Page beat of just we found this thing out about Larry Page we can write a headline about it and now it's it's out here in the wild well I I would argue there are plenty of other people doing this in fact Larry Page and a guy named Joe Ben Bevert along with a guy named Elon Crue who by the way was the the original person to run Z-Aero he's still on board as a consultant the principal scientist they were all talking about self-driving cars now uh Crue and Page went on to found Z-Aero Bevert has started his own flying car business in Santa Cruz called uh Joby Aviation uh you may know Joby as an accessory maker for cameras that's how Bevert made his billions I don't know if he made billions but he made a lot of money off that and he has used that to start Joby Energy and Joby Aviation so here's another it's not just Page that's the man with a lot of money to do this there's also E-Volo in Germany uh who's conducted manned flights of the Volocopter uh there's AeroMobile, Lilium Aviation, Terrafugia, Airbus has built a two-seater prototype at its Silicon Valley Labs, Airbus a very legitimate company so it does seem like people are starting to pay a little more serious attention it's not just Eric Moller out there you know in the wilderness saying no I think we can do this auto industry is making electric motors lighter batteries and self-driving systems are getting better and and carbon fiber has come along although Moller uh I think I said Eric is Paul Moller uh was using carbon fiber as well but it may be that finally now we're on the cusp of the technology being there to make this work all right now I'm gonna ask you Tom all right vet and pants what do we see first and I'll define this vet as a company built on the following autonomous driving cars or autonomous flying cars you know if you'd asked me this six months ago I would have said driving cars yeah certainly like driverless cars we would see first however after reading this article after reading a few people pointing out that driverless cars probably maybe you know 40 years off maybe longer uh we're gonna have some autonomy in cars within the next five years but not just full on driverless cars yeah I wonder if it's gonna be a dead heat I think I'm gonna call it a tie that we get them all around the same time oh you you should be ashamed of yourself you can't call it high in a hypothetical far future situation Tom come on but let's say they they have I'm saying they happen in the same year like we get them at the same time stop it no you make a call then then we're not doing by year we're doing by if you want to be a weasel about this then we're doing five five we are going to get driverless cars the day before we get autonomous flying cars so you think it is more I guess the one thing that I find so interesting is the idea of this concept literally going over the head of what is set to be a very annoying legal fight you know driverless cars ultimately are going to have to do what is very very difficult go to go to voters right go to politicians and say put technology over the fears of the people well that's one thing but I also think the edge cases are what's going to keep it from becoming entirely driverless so you're gonna have the pressure on the legal side is well on one side and on the other side like well we can't really do country roads well we can't do all kinds of weather because we really still can't get through sheets of rain or or blinding snow and so they're gonna say well okay in that case we're gonna have to do a modified form of autonomous car that can be autonomous sometimes but not all the time and the legal pressure will will keep that in place I think you're right about that well and that's why I made the point to say about a business right because I think that we are going to get the idea of a flying car that can go in one straight line from New York City to the Hamptons in a way that that choppers do now to go from LA to Las Vegas like all these little these these places for which already have people that will pay for the luxury of taking either a very small airplane or a helicopter now this could provide a cheaper option maybe I don't think I don't think there's much of a gap there I think the business case is the big hold up for flying cars yeah I think once once they show that they can make a I mean we we've had legitimate flying cars they just weren't practical for people or cost or cost effective so yeah I think I don't know I I think they have different challenges that's why I wanted to say it's a tie because they have different routes that they have to take to get to success ones in the air ones on the ground you know listen in the same way that you don't win friends with salad you don't make a good radio with ties come on we got a bigger winner here I'm a hockey fan what do you got what do you think what are you gonna do I don't shoot out they don't have ties anymore that's good point you're a soccer fan I must it must have become a soccer fan while I was sleeping uh yeah let us know what you think folks and no ties allowed all right that's host privilege feedback at daily tech news show dot com hey our pick of the day comes from bio cow aka Preston who was thinking about Elon Musk's recent comments about living in a virtual world and it made him think of a book called Mogworld Mogworld's a fantasy book that follows Jim who 60 years after dying in a magic school mishap is wrenched back to life by renegade and necromancer but the world he knew from before is changed drastically Jim pulls himself together literally his decomposing body and sets to out to fulfill his latest goal in the afterlife which is to finally die once and for all but this won't be easy as he meets up with many helpful characters along the way who get in the way of his dying and he faces many obstacles including the programmers who are working on a deadline to fix his world again uh it was written by a video game journalist yachtsy cro-shaw and uh Preston says it's very much in the style of Douglas Adams hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy Mogworld i feel like i've heard this before but i'm i'm i'm excited to uh to dig into it Mogworld by yachtsy cro-shaw send your picks to us folks too great pick bio cow uh feedback at daily tech news show dot com you can find more picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks bunch of messages to get through uh of course we've been talking about self-driving cars and we talked yesterday about texting and and actually more about calling talking on the phone while driving by the way i did not do my phone call in the car i was able to get home before i had to do the call so i mentioned that yesterday very safe Sikani says i work in two fields as you know delivery and uber where my office is for all practical purposes the driver's seat of a vehicle i can avoid most distractions like texting or email while behind the wheel but there are occasions where people need to get into contact with me and it's usually through a phone call the ideal situation would be for me to pull over to the side of the road and focus on the call instead of driving however as those of us who live in large congested cities know finding the place to even pull over out of traffic is far easier said than done it would seem that the very roads we drive on were never built with the need to quickly pull over and deal with a communication related distraction in mind for me and many drivers simply not driving is not an option so we need a call lane yeah okay uh what was what was the the the topic last or yesterday it was the fact that talking hands-free on a phone is no safer in all of these studies than talking with a uh with holding the phone in your hand it's a distraction that's on the equivalent of being a drunk while driving etc yeah uh i mean everyone's right you know i think that if there were a way if we had a more seamless way like let's say we had uh you know the the same kind of like alexa interface but we were able to uh in import all of our phone data and we were able to just kind of talk through stuff like one by one instead of focusing on the ums aux and pauses of that we normally do while we're on the phone with somebody while we're trying to maintain an element of decorum and not feel like they're they're being brushed off uh that might be better but i mean who knows i think ultimately driving is just an inherently dangerous activity yeah i there there with lamar and i couldn't come up with a solution we're like we know people are going to take calls in their car uh there are situations where you just get sikhani has one of the best situations like it is his job to be driving the majority of the time and his job to respond to calls from his employer and which is going to happen while he's driving so what do you do about that is it is dangerous what do you do about that the moto x and uh descendants including the moto built droids on verizon have the capability to have personalized voice activation phrases so while okay google google won't activate on my phone it probably would on my tablet that is from roland yeah so pointing out that uh there is uh a technology out there already that is allowing you to customize your voice assistant that's cool we also had uh the story yesterday about them alerting planes about gps testing happening in devata and how wide the area was that they would have to fly in and how ember jets particularly uh were susceptible to this testing and should be avoiding this airspace during certain hours peter the pilot wrote in and said this jamming issue isn't really newsworthy as we won't have any noticeable impact on your next air plane flight but it does offer some opportunity for interesting insights into how the air navigation structure operates he's like these no-tams are very very regular they happen happen quite a bit and he said they always overestimate the range just to be safe he also pointed out that gps is not the only navigation source for the aircraft the navigation systems used for air travel before gps are still in use and perfectly capable of providing a fallback system in the event of a gps outage uh i'll have his whole email in our show notes at dailytechnewshow.com if you want to read about vor DME and other things uh as for the reason the embraer phenom 300 was singled out a friend of joe the pilot says that embraer tied the gps signal with the ahrs unit so if both gps units go away you get an ahrs fault and the autopilot and some of the other controls go out uh he said you might also mention that embraer makes real airliners too but those are certified under another part uh and you won't see that issue on the ones that passenger airlines fly so you won't see this issue we're talking about of autopilot going out with gps in jet blue american delta etc whoever operates them it's it's a different kind of part part fars 23 not part fars 25 uh but yeah it's uh it's it's an interesting thing when they do testing for aliens there might actually be another explanation of why they're doing this testing uh is this here from peter as well down below oh no this is from uh gadget chaser gadget chaser writes as to why the test the u.s military used to have something called selective access where they could reduce the accuracy of gps for non-military users in 2007 selective access went away with the gps three generation of satellites uh now it's 2016 and the entire active gps system is made up of gps three satellites and the dod has no way of altering the accuracy or access of the gps globally yeah so he his his belief with the notem announcement is that they're developing and testing ways to deny enemies the accuracy of gps but we also got a twitter post from hg203 appointed us to an article about light me might be test to defend against gps degradation which is also something they're seeing out in the field interesting uh finally anise from sirius says hey guys on the topic of foldable screens one use case i could see is a foldable screen that you have in your pocket or bag that can connect wirelessly to your phone so that the phone handles most of the work while the screen only displays stuff and that way you can make it as thin as possible and that way the problem of carrying a rigid tablet with you all the time is somewhat lessen so let's walk that idea out because the idea of having a phone that powers another thing seems like an untenable solution right that if we ever really really really wanted to go with a like pc monitor kind of idea that really you would just want to carry some kind of unobtrusive as light as it can be faceless black box in your pocket that powers this other big bright shiny thing that is lighter and get full functionality so i'm very interested in that idea of just like that you're going to eventually have a pc tower and monitor somewhere on your body that is uh that that creates this different new experience well yeah because if you can get the internals down to a key fob size yeah keys on it it's keychain right and then and then the screen that you pull out of your pocket could unfold into tablet size or stay in a in a more phone size depending on how you want to use it that's pretty genius uh but at the end of the day it would just make you more mad when you lost your key yeah for sure uh well that is it for this episode of daily tech news show thank you justin robbie young as always what do you got going on you want to tell folks about hey uh are are you a listener in Louisville Kentucky how about Cincinnati Ohio oh what about Chicago Illinois the city with too many nicknames my kind of town yeah toddling town windy city city with the big shoulders of meat packers town i don't think that last one's real so i'm going to be doing a little mini tour it's called the jury in your house tour all the fine folks at my uh my my patreon at patreon.com slash jury the one that funds politics politics politics and my one mic show jury have been so amazing and so generous uh and uh raised it up to the level where i'm doing a test run of uh an in your house tour that means i'm going to go to a specific region those three cities specifically on friday saturday and sunday friday i'll do a show live from the living room of a patron in downtown louisville kentucky near louisville slugger ballpark on saturday you can meet us out at uh the 16th bar at 7 p.m all time 7 p.m by the way local time uh out in Cincinnati we're gonna have a fun little meet up there and then sunday night in glendale heights illinois i will be doing the jury show in the living room of another patron there if you want to come to the show either friday and louisville or sunday in chicago just email me at justin robert young at gmail.com with jury louisville or jury chicago i'll be emailing everybody the exact address uh the day before each show you can come on out have a good time is the first time in my opinion let me ask you tom because i've uh i've been saying i haven't heard of people do heard of people doing this before have you ever heard of a living room podcast or not i don't think so i've heard of musicians doing similar things that's where i've got that's where i've got maryon called the double credit right using musicians have done this i don't know whether or not it's ever been done for podcasting and we're gonna find out this weekend whether or not there's a good reason that i'm ignoring for that but you can be there listen no matter what it's going to be an amazing time i'm gonna i'm really really excited about it and i hope that you guys will be as well so louisville on friday uh cincinetti on saturday and chicago on sunday get all the details on my patreon page patreon.com slash j you are why jury in your house it's a hit uh hey thanks to everybody who supports the show at dailytechnewshow.com slash support uh we don't take advertising uh and and we don't need to because of you uh so if you want to keep the show getting better and better continue your support or support us for the first time and only like a dollar a month that's like five cents a show you can't buy anything for five cents a show so if you're willing to help us out dailytechnewshow.com slash support or patreon.com slash dtns our email addresses feedback at dailytechnewshow.com you can give us a call 51259 daily catch the show live monday through friday 4 30 p.m eastern at alphageekradio.com and diamondclub.tv and visit our website dailytechnewshow.com back tomorrow with scott johnson talk to you then frog pants network get more at frogpants.com i hope you have enjoyed this program boom nicely done gentlemen i'm gonna call this do we really want our flying cars do we really want i mean i feel like you guys you guys i'm better i feel like it's good all right what do we got on show about though tinder garden oh please no that's not okay have you have seat right over there i'll believe it when cars fly that's not bad tinder's afraid of a lot of tinder a lot of tinder use z force luke can you hear me now yes we can hear you now roger all right uh tinder garden i believe it when cars fly moto z too young to swipe tinder's afraid of krist hanson um let me look for a flying one car car pool lane call pool lane oh right for for making your calls larry pays searching for flying cars old man jury billionaires in their cars uh startups like broken glass on the street taking a page on the right brothers self-driving flying cars it should be something like larry page with his head in the clouds i think i'm gonna do do we really want our flying cars unless you guys are really like excited about something else don't forget to uh hat the system oh yeah hat that t2 t2 u i noticed that we have concerns promoted their own no it's just a redirect yeah and i've been meaning to go look to see yeah i just totally redirects okay cool no the only one that uh i need to give a gentle rapping on the on the knuckles is uh the angry chicken what's up with the angry chicken what are they doing in the business for themselves talking about where they're located on the podcast awards i'm like come on guys run well which is harder than just doing t2 t2s thing right explains itself and votes itself yeah all right this is gonna be a problem uh doing the headline show in the morning means that all of my my save as is go to the i have to change them every time uh not the same folder all good artists suffer tom oh tbd gone being a troll says omg chat hasn't been pimping heading the system either oh i just feel so i need to text chat did anyone tell him how that went down all right well i'm gonna get back to uh prepping for uh for my my trip and uh happy hunting in salt lake city salt lake city uh weekend we'll be doing the show from there tomorrow scott uh scott was very uh here listen you're never going to believe this scott was nervous uh about the fact that people were coming from too far away for the the event yeah because it's getting too big uh no just that people are traveling and enjoying the events that scott is setting up too much and yeah and now he feels like there's too much expectation that yeah well that he could never you know that which are right here go ahead and raise your hand if this uh if this uh surprises you scott now after delaying uh a nertacular for a year is like well you know i i felt better when we had nertacular because at least there were more people there that people were coming to be a part of like okay so you literally he just has this little worry hole that he needs to fill up with once a year i'm uh and this is not because i was just cleaning out these shelves this morning that may be true but that's certainly not the only reason that i'll be bringing six copies of united moon colonies in print uh lake city to sell or give away depending you want to pay me for them might i might accept five dollars exactly if basically here's the deal buys tom's books or he'll throw the match yeah that's pretty much right on there uh no i'll probably give away a couple of them and if people want to buy the rest yeah dude no i'm like i swear to god if this wasn't the weekend that that it just made sense for me to do the the the jury in your house tour i i would definitely be in solic city because it would be like it's so funny because now like that's happening and i'm like man uh that would have been a fun relaxing weekend well that's why i'm going right is like oh it's not i have to plan and put on a show which is fun in its own way but it's a stress like this is just like i just show up like we're gonna do dts and scott's basement you know in his studio whatever but uh but yeah but we don't have to we're just gonna go to the movies then that's gonna be that's gonna be a blast absolutely and i'll tell you what no matter what uh the warcraft movie is it is going to be just an absolute amazing time well that's exactly right like and that's to me the best way to enjoy the warcraft movies a bunch of the warcraft fans oh yeah a new story by the ap today uh fewer high school students having sex maybe maybe the time is right for a teen dating app needs to i get where you were coming from like uh 40 or 40 or 30 year old guy is talking about teen dating just starts out creepy uh and so it's hard to get around that but i was trying to without bringing in the creep factor point out like yeah but when i was a team like we would have wanted that oh yeah so i guess my my point was and this is where i made a creepy you did not make it creepy i i made a creepy whenever the conversation goes to well the obstacles for teen hookups and dates are different than the obstacles for 20 something 30 something teen or hookups and totally true yeah you're right about that but then you can't get into that without it becoming hey let me talk to you about how much i know about teens who are hot for each other right yeah yeah it's just a bad it just no matter what it's it's just a bad there's there i would say we were all teens once but then somebody who's 10 will correct me yeah i'm in a team yet hey i'm not a team i'm not a woman all right that's the world we live in all right uh thanks everybody i'm gonna shut the uh stream down too happy flying see ya