 So we're here with SeaGate, and hi, so who are you? I am Jason Benoen. I am actually a product marketing manager for Iron Wolf hard drives. But here we're actually showcasing the hammer technology. So in 2019, hammer being a heat-assisted magnetic recording, this technology is what's going to enable us to break the 20 terabyte capacity point. So the hammer stands for heat-assisted magnetic recording? Heat, like heat. Yes, correct. So heat-assisted? Correct. And there was this SMR that's out there. Is this something else? SMR, CMR all completely, they're two different type of technologies. I believe with the hammer technology, it's still going to be more of a CMR, correct? Yes. CMR. CMR. Yes. CMR based. So this allows for, how's it possible to expect, like how's it going to be possible to is a new jump compared to your previous technologies? Yes, definitely. Is it more platters? It's going to be a mix of plenty of things, where you're going to have multiple platters, more platters as well as more actuators too as well to keep up with reading the performance, reading the drive itself on the platter. Yes. So 20 terabytes minimum by 2019? Correct. That's cool. That's amazing. Are we going to get 100 terabytes? 100 terabytes? Yes, that'd be awesome. 220 terabytes. Yeah, but the great thing is that as the data is needed, like as you know with the whole data sphere that's going on, with the demand for data, we want to make sure with Seagate, we continue increasing the capacity with each of our drives. So hammer, of course, enables us to make it go above that 20 terabyte capacity limit. So what's the Seagate headquarters? Seagate headquarters is in Cupertino, California. And we're here in Taiwan. Where's all this R&D happening in the US? It's a mix in the US as well as in Singapore. We have tons of design centers globally where we do the research and development of these hard drives. And then people use SSDs because they run faster speed sometimes. But do you have something happening with the speed here? Yes. So this is the Mach 2? Yes, so with the Mach 2, it actually accelerates performance by twice as much. So the thing is that with having more actuators, it helps to read, enables parallel data transfers and it can actually maximize even further with the drive capacity too as well. So this is compatible with the hammer too? Yes. Soon it'll be actually even implemented not only just on hammer but also newer technology or newer other capacity drives that we're currently building. So Seagate is a kind of hard drive company, right? Correct. Well, it's not just only hard drives but we also have SSDs as well. So we have the SSD drives, we have our nitro drive over here lined up here. Which also getting amazing technology capacities, right? So we have our nitros, we have the data, we have the stacks, we have the NVV. There's a 7.6 terabytes. This is a 2.5 inch, right? Small capacity. Is it using 3D layering of the flash data? So with this I'm going to have to actually ask one of our SSD experts to come by over here and actually provide more information on it. Let's go back to the hard drives. Okay. Are you the leader in hard drives? Number one? Sure. Yes. The leader money comes to you. Like most shipped. What are these like 14 terabytes right here? This is the highest capacity right now. Can I make a video about the SSD? Yeah. Yeah. Just in one minute. This one, is this the highest capacity? Yes, this is the highest capacity. It's soon to be coming out the second half of this year. And what's Exos? Exos is our brand when it comes to the enterprise line. So we have Exos and we have Nitros. Exos is our enterprise capacity drive. And then when it comes to the Nitros drives, those are our SSD brand. That's our SSD brand. So this is not the shingle, this is not SMR. This is for a lot of Exos. This was a lot of Exos. This was a 14 terabyte, I believe it's CMR. But I might have to double check with that on you. Right. What kind of price? There's no price right now? It varies. I can't really quote you on that because it just varies depending on you. I mean, it's more when we work closely with our partners. There's a bunch of 12 terabytes now. Yes. The price per terabyte between 8 and 12. Is it going to about CMR? See? No, definitely not. So the 8 terabyte and the 12 terabytes going to be a huge increase in capacity, not only in this capacity, but there's going to be a price gap between the two per gigabyte. So the cheapest per gigabyte is still the 8 or the 10? I wanted to say that we have lower capacities. I believe we have the 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, but... Yeah, sorry. Let me jump over here. Over here. Maybe you need to be in the picture there. Sorry. Don't want to misquote you. So there's like 1, 2, we have the 12, 8, 10. So we have a wide range of the smart drives here. All right. Excess. Yeah. And around here, we're checking some of the iron wolf for the mass. Correct. So the iron wolf pro drive, we have the iron wolf and iron wolf pro drive. They're made specifically for network attached storage. So it provides that 24-7. It's built for multi-user environments. So you're going to do a lot of file sharing. Iron wolf is actually the best route to go, because it's made for that NAS and then we're going to attach storage. We have partnered with QNAP, Synology, and ASUS. So my plan is I want to get one of these and I want to put SMR drives in it to save money. Is that a bad idea? Yes and no. What I mean by this is that when it comes to all our iron wolf drives or all CMR, but at the same time, what I recommend for you to do is go to either Synology, QNAP's approved vendor list, and see which drives are compatible with their systems, because they have tested it completely. We have worked closely with our partners to make sure that the drives, these iron wolf drives, are going to be more optimized for their system specific. So what I mean by us partnering with Synology, ASUS stores, we have something called iron wolf health management. Iron wolf health management is actually embedded into their operating system. So with iron wolf health management, it's embedded into this station manager, which is Synology's OS. All embedded within their operating system. Yes, it provides the intervention, prevention, and recovery. So if there's anything happening external of the NAS, say there's something vibrating in the background of the NAS box itself, the iron wolf health management will go ahead and notify you saying, hey, there's some vibration happening in the background, you need to fix it, or else it may result in data loss. Or if the temperature rises or anything in that case, it'll give you a notification of that. SMR technology is the Seagate only technology, right? So SMR technology, I believe SMR technology is, and don't quote me on this, I believe it's on our desktop line with the Barracuda drives. We don't have it currently any SMR technology with... For NAS. For NAS. But I'd like to use it just for, I'm going to store a lot of videos, and I'm not going to rewrite or rewrite it just for storing a lot, but having it backed up in two remote locations over the NAS, over the network. So if you look at the nature of a NAS, it's built to be 24-7. So if you're going to put like a desktop drive into a Synology box, those are only built for 8x7. So as for an Iron Wolf drive, the firmware called AdroArray, it's tuned specifically for that 24-7 use, and also it's built for the multi-user environment that a NAS calls for. So if you're going to be accessing it remotely, constantly, we definitely recommend using an Iron Wolf drive. But if I'm not going to access it very often, then it could be okay. I'm just going to store and leave it for years, you know, as a backup. And I want to lowest cost per terabyte. So I was thinking to take those external hard drives, just pull out the SMR cheap shingles. Oh yeah, I wouldn't even recommend that to be honest. It's a 32 terabyte in here. So if you want to make sure that the drive is running, like if you want, because again, we worked closely with Asus to our Synology and QNAP. So if you're going to be running like a desktop drive, or if you're just pulling it out of an external drive, I definitely recommend doing an Iron Wolf drive, because we have an AdroArray firmware that's built into it. I don't want to give you a drive that you put in there, and then perhaps it might fail in another year or so, that a drive that's not built specific for this application. It's a huge responsibility you have as a company. Yeah, there's all this data that you're kind of like storing and it's a very sad story when people lose their data. Yeah, so that's why we built this specialty drive, to make sure that it runs reliable. You have that 24-7. It's built with Synology, Asus Store, these NAS partners to make sure you get the best experience, because we don't want to give you a desktop drive. You can put any drive in there, sure, but you're not going to get the best user experience. So Iron Wolf helps enable that.