 My introductions this morning. Oh, yeah That's Lou and this is Ron Now what we're going to do here in this Q&A is I'm going to read some of the submitted questions And then when we've gone through the submitted questions, we'll take questions from the audience First question is for Ron Can US tariffs ever make sense even to bring it to line bad actors like China Not in my estimation Terror taxes and we pay up it makes no sense It makes no sense. I think tariffs are are not worth even giving it serious thought It really doesn't improve things temporarily. It's a good political stunt and it seems like it's logical Well, we're going to punish them and we hear hear it announced that if we put all these tariffs on China You know, just think about it all that money China is going to have to give us and I think that's not the way I understand Terrorist it means it that our government is going to take more money from the American taxpayer I usually summarize it by saying what do you have it against poor people who would like to buy tennis shoes for $15? And you want them to buy tennis shoes for $100 so I would say no no tariffs And it's a tough sell, you know politically and it's very popular. It's been around for a long time but it seems like we went many decades and Most economists no matter what persuasion they were of we're generally opposed to To the tariffs, but right now it's been softened and it amazes me that on the one hand It's the best economy we've ever had in the history of the United States at the same time We're in desperate shape and everybody is ruining us and therefore we have to retaliate and we want to put on tariffs I think it's foolish. I think it's a big mistake For Louie may I make just a sure a quick Addendum to that Frederick Basti I Said that when goods don't cross borders armors armies do and we can see the increased hostility that these tariffs On China have caused between China and the US. We used to be friends trading Massively now it's hostility will it actually lead to a war we can pray and hope not but it's very dangerous from that standpoint too Question for Lou What can we do to counteract the influence of the lame stream media to include Facebook and Twitter? That's a great question in fact we're gonna have a conference in Like Jackson, Texas with dr. Paul where we talk about all the alternative media the good alternative media as versus the bad alternative media as versus the evil lame stream media and Dr. Paul's TV show is an important aspect of getting around these people And we'll I think that we just need more. We need more websites. We need more circumventing of the Facebook and Twitter and There are people who are producing Competition for them still very small of course, but we need to support that as well and It's a tough battle, but I think it can be done already. I think good alternative media Attracts a huge number of people Which is why of course, they're censoring us and trying to put us out of business PayPal won't Accept contributions for bad guys and you know quote-unquote and that sort of thing, but I think it can be done. I think I think there's going to be some good news coming up. I think the left Just as Kavanaugh hearing Has shown that people are upset with them people are more and more upset with them they're not believing them and so this is our time and You know the Mises Institute website LRC website There's there's there's all that we have a lot of readers. We're gonna have more readers and that's the way to do it But it's it's a difficult situation. No question, but I think Facebook Twitter And all the rest of them are actually we already see them going down their stock prices going down Employees leaving them. They're still of course extremely powerful but I think they're more and more being seen as biased and left-wing and People who like that. Well, they can of course go there But just one additional point more and more young people don't use Facebook I mean people under teenagers don't use Facebook Kids in the 20s tend not to use Facebook either. That's a very different situation than a few years ago So there's good stuff happening. We just need to do all we can to encourage it You know, I think Lou has a perfect answer for that and that's very good And we should be more optimistic about the alternatives But you know, there is an opening one thing that I think we should demand is that they are The social media is an arm of the government But they're also private so to speak but the arm of the government when they start releasing private information To the government, you know in secret and they keep spying on us. It seems like there We should deny them from ever getting any funds from the government and of course government funds helped establishment there So this is not private market. So it makes it more difficult But under the circumstances, I don't know if we have much more we can do there's probably at times When they could be reigned in by denying funding and and used, you know to spy on us But it's a it's a tough thing, but there are alternatives and I think back in more More simpler times when we had maybe three TV stations and a couple newspapers Well, they were they were on monopoly then but what was the answer? You know, there are more radio stations more TV station Then I thought boy the internet is going to be an answer to all this and to degree it is I think the Mises Institute has done great because they're in better shape than say the Liberty report because we still you know have We still make use of it because on there we have a lot of friends I don't know 1.3 1.4 million and but all of a sudden many people know that They have done this, you know with the new rules and regulation So emotionally, there's certainly a mixed fat battle in here But there are times when you think they're using, you know taxpayers money to use private industry It's it is a form of fascism as far as I'm concerned But in the meantime, we'll do exactly what Lou say we build the alternative and even at the origin of our of our history They had pamphleteering and I think of that a lot modern-day pamphleteering to overcome, you know, the organized Media in fact, we have some libertarians who argue that you really can't criticize Facebook Google Twitter and so forth because they're private But of course, I think in some senses dr. Paul points out there in their foundations. They were not private They had government money government help from the CIA's Firms that gives give money to companies that they like that are starting up So it's it's I think the more we can criticize them the more we can expose their true nature to people Not call for regulation obviously But the more we can criticize them the better off we are the more we can diminish their their their value That's important as well Okay to run What do you think the most important or biggest issue for our country is or the world today? The protection of liberty and it's not more complicated than that Because But it requires first everybody having a general agreement what liberty is all about and of course, that's the fundamentals of the understanding of natural rights the right to our life and our liberty and Then applying some rules to it and the rules aren't complicated They've been around for a few thousand years, you know, we didn't invent the libertarian rules of non-aggression, you know a long time They've been talking about No, no lying cheating stealing and hurting people. They've been around for thousands of year So that's simple rule and then recognize that everybody is a sovereign person and that it's individual and I think the Big effort that I make is trying to show how much better off we would be most people think yes But you know after 9-11 it would come to me. Yes, Ron. You're right about this Don't sacrifice any of your liberty for safety and security But you don't really have to have that choice besides it is It is the the principle of liberty when it's enforced. That's when we do well I mean that's when you have the middle class That's when you have development and all this so it's the protection of liberty and I think I gave my last speech in Congress There was a lot of points that you could make along this line But in along the line of understanding liberty I said, you know, the one thing that we really ought to work hard is to understand and Protect the First Amendment which means that we should never be closed down by the government as long as we can distribute and Exercise our right to explain our position and express ourselves I think then we have to stand on our own merits. We get we don't have to get any help at all So being able to do that and that of course is why I think the Mises Institute has done such a great job in the Mist of all this mess that we're putting on and more importantly and I think Lou is absolutely right They're they're giving up on the alternative and I think some of this chaotic stuff is really pretty good And I love to see these statistics when it says 78% of the people don't trust the government. That's not pretty good Okay for Lou what inspired you to found the Ludwig von Mises Institute well, I had known Mises a little bit in the 1960s when I was his editor for bringing back some of his books into print and publishing a couple of new Monographs as well, and I'll never forget the day that My boss Neil McCaffrey at the president of Arlington house publishers And by the way, his grandson is Matt McCaffrey is one of our scholars today Called me into his office and he said Lou. How do you like to be editor for Ludwig von Mises? So yeah So I mainly dealt with Margaret von Mises in all of this but I'd already had been reading Mises and this is my relationship with the two of them brought me even more interest in his work and Some years later after his death and I was working for a think tank at Emory University and I became concerned that more and more The Austrian school as it existed at that time was diminishing and in influence and then Mises was not getting anything like the As a matter of fact it happened all during his life was not getting anything like the attention he should have as a great hero as well as a great scholar and So I because I was an associate director of this thing of this think tank These two things came together. I thought well, I can do this. I can start one of these so I After I got I filled out all the IRS forms myself. I didn't even have a lawyer and as soon as I got a permission for a non-profit and and For the ability to receive tax-deductible contributions. I gave my notice and and Got going and it but it was really was my concern that the instant that Mises the man and the Austrian school was losing and it had never been huge, but it was losing the stand for losing the Influence and the influence that it had And I think today, you know, it's we've got far more influence We're still a very much a minority movement, but we're hugely influential as compared to those days and Mises is much better known all over the world Murray Rothbard, of course too and I First approached market one Mises after I decided to do this and asked her if she'd be our chairman And she very graciously agreed and she was not just a figurehead. I mean she was As Murray Rothbard called her a one-man Mises industry I mean she was so intent on all his books being in print and all his works being translated into as many languages as possible And she was just a huge help Dr. Ron Paul was a gigantic help in our and financing the Institute in the beginning and using his influence to help us and Murray Rothbard agreed to be our academic Head, how could we lose with those three people? So we didn't and so we're still small but far better than we were and Mises is known all over the world today. His works are known Rothbard's works are known and In that way, we're making just gigantic progress. So I have to thank Murray and Margaret Olivia von Mises as well Maybe they're looking down on us for all that they did I Can attest to the fact that I was a poor graduate student here at Auburn University When Lou drove up in an old Station wagon with a few boxes of pamphlets and I was really worried because his car was older than my car Okay, this is to both of you. What do you think about President Trump's? Actions and statements on Venezuela the economic and personal sanctions imposed but as well as the military option which President Trump still Says is on the table It doesn't quite fit My qualifications for a non interventionist foreign policy Way too much intervention doesn't mean that we should totally ignore the world and and not talk about it But if we're going to export anything it should be ideas and it should be exporting, you know setting examples So if there's if socialism fails down there It doesn't require our military action to deal with it because that has something to do with socialism fascism too But you can't you can't spread ideas and these threats and intimidations and sanctions They're just horrible. It doesn't does the whole thing. So no, I think it's completely wrong But wait until tomorrow it might change, you know, his position might change, you know So we don't know but on Venezuela as he is on around a pretty consistent way too much involvement and At one time we said something positive on the program about, you know Opening up the doors in a conversation with North Korea and that was back and forth and now that's a lot better than it was but Obviously, there's no consistent pattern that is why We at the Ron Paul Institute believe that Promoting the best we can the principles of Non-intervention is very important in foreign policy and the rest of the you know Personal liberties as well as economic policy, but it's it's it's something that I think we have too much involvement and in the one thing that I've helped or at least I participated in and try to change is it was traditionally Not a bad idea to use isolationism as a description of our viewpoint, but politically I didn't like it because it sounds like you don't want to deal with the world And I think libertarians really want to deal with the world on voluntary terms instead of on their military term So I want to be very much engaged traveled trade sales and prevention of war as Lou points out So I think that is quite a bit different. So I don't want to isolate But if somebody wants to be isolated as an individual or a country that doesn't want to do much Yeah, they still could do it, but no I just I just like the idea of non interventionist mind our own business, you know If it's a pretty amazing that there was one time in looking at age George W. Bush's Campaign and career that I thought wow Maybe this is okay, and that was in the year 2000 when he expressed his foreign policy if you go back and look at it it was not in the intervention mind our own business and You know treat people differently But of course that was just talked to appeal to a few people who might have libertarian leanings, but Someday matter of fact, I'm not even too pessimistic about this It's it's a mess But it costs a lot of money and if you think that it's gonna last forever We're kidding ourselves because all you have to do is think about how powerful those Soviets were But they came crashing down for financial economic reasons And I don't think that's we're that far off So therefore we are going to have an opportunity to spread the economic message of libertarianism as well as a foreign policy Because we're not going to be able to afford it and there's going to be a point where they will just not accept our dollars And that will be good news One interesting thing about Venezuela the us has been attempting to overthrow the government ever since the socialist came to power And they've staged coups. They haven't worked, but it makes it easy for the socialists to say It's not our policies that are causing all this disruption here in Venezuela It's deliberate us and CIA intervention, which of course is going on So it's another reason not to intervene. It gives the socialists an excuse for their failures And it seems to me the Venezuelans are coming down on their own the idea that the US needs to invade them and kill a bunch of people Um strikes me as an outrageous idea and of course there are many outrageous ideas in Washington Okay for both Excuse me. Uh, this is veron As a champion for liberty, I'm sure your political career has had many difficulties But what do you think your biggest political successes have been? You know, I think I think there's several but they're nothing real dramatic. It's not like uh last week We just audited to fed No, no no successes like that But I feel good about the idea now that compared to when we had our last bust in 09 That there's a lot more people in this country now very critical and questioning You know the authenticity of that secret organization the federal reserve. So I think they're they're more on the defense They're still very very powerful and all but I tell you what I think the average person is much more aware of it And uh, I've been impressed when I go to the college campuses There's still a lot of people on campuses will be very excited about uh, you know talking about the fed and how how bad it is I think there's uh, you know been a little contribution on uh on on the foreign policy Uh, obviously about uh, how disastrous the wars have been But I think there's been some other successes of positions not only I have taken but the libertarians have taken I think we've made great progress on the war on drugs You know, it's it's it's it's amazing to me because uh, I remember, you know, I was out I was there for four terms and decided this place isn't for me. I'm going back to medicine So I went back for 12 years and then I don't know who pushed me or why I did it But I ran again in 96 after I had identified as a libertarian ran as a libertarian And I said, you know what this is going to be this is going to be something because they're going to talk about drug legalizing drugs and the first press conference I had for that That candidacy the first first question out of the press conference is what about this legalizing drugs I always thought that first it would have destroyed my career in just running for congress or it would just sort of bomb, but you know, um I ran again ever for congress and and uh, it never hurt So I figured the people are a lot smarter than the clowns in Washington because they think that is Totally, you know, they might agree with with me on this, but they were just totally intimidated that It would be a total disaster for a political career If you said something like, you know, the war on drugs isn't working so well, you know And I've finally done on me that there's probably so many Families that have been touched back then the kids Teenagers were put in a prison that they were caught with a little bit of marijuana and things like that So a lot of people had a lot of concern. So I think they were way far, but now Legislation is caught up with it. And I think it's also done one other thing that I've talked about a lot and that is Nullification states even even the liberals are for nullification So So those kind of issues I think there's been a a little bit of a more attention given and as an aside I uh, tried to pass out a message to pay more attention To the mesis institute. That's where you'll get the good information Let me just mention one thing about dr paul's career, this is in 2008 when he was running and and There was a republican debate in in michigan And all the all the people running against him were saying The how dare you criticize our economy our economy is great. It's magnificent. It's fantastic The republicans are doing great and and Of course that wasn't true, but after the debate he had a Had a meeting at the university of michigan with the students And they had to hold it in the quad because there were 4 000 kids who wanted to come to hear ron paul And they started chanting on their own And the fed and the fed And one kid lit a dollar bill and held it up, but he's chanting and the fed and they were all doing it So it's just one small incident of the kind of influence This man has had on our on our movement in our country and the whole world for that matter for good Let me add one more thing on the drug war because I did spend a lot of time on talking about the stupidity of those laws But it was out of debate. I think it was in Uh Maybe it was North Carolina. It was it. I know it was a christian Republican group and I thought well, they'll like me. I'm a christian and I'm a conservative But it didn't seem to help because the question was, uh, you know, you know Loaded question about drugs you would legalize a you know, all all drugs and So even heroin So I started off by saying all right That's let's say we legalize heroin It's been legal in this country at one time and the world didn't come to an end But let's say we legalize heroin tomorrow How many people in this audience will be tempted to use heroin? And nobody put up their hand But they kidded me about that later on some of the interviews they say Who would have ever thought that ron paul could go in in the bible belt and and talk to him about heroin And get a lot of cheers. Of course that night. I got a lot of booze Lou you might have tipped your head on the this next question for you I know you are adamantly against the idea of voting But do you think we can gradually vote our way to a smaller government by electing freedom candidates? Or do we need a revolution? Well, I wouldn't say I'm adamantly against voting. I don't vote And I don't think I don't think voting Your your vote your individual vote doesn't count Because of course unless the election is decided by one vote Your vote doesn't matter and it's a pain in the neck to go into that government office and go through all the the harassment that they Put voters like everybody else who encounters the government through and I think it's you know, it's like a it's like a sacrament of the state and I don't choose to accept it But if people want to vote You know go to it. I wouldn't tell you not to do it But I I don't think voting is the answer. I don't think With the exception of ron paul now I will say that All the votes he got And all the influence that he had and it's by the way worldwide. I mean remember robert the great economic historian robert higgs telling me about He was in brazil and he went into this small village and there was a ron paul sign And then all the kids were interested in ron paul and he He was just thrilled so ron used his political His political position as as a bully pulpit um, he used his elections to spread the truth about Everything that uh was facing the country I don't see anybody else doing that by the way But if they do do it more power to them But I think voting is the answer to our freedoms I must say I don't and I just as hans hapa has shown The wider the franchise the more people voting the less freedom there is So that we there's a country we were far better off when when people had their own property And for exist just to take one example in order to vote And when now everybody can vote We have a leviathan state and these are not unconnected. These are not unconnected things Okay, uh, and this is for both of you In the several decades that you have spent in the liberty movement Are you encouraged or discouraged by the amount and rate of progress being made? I'm I'm encouraged matter of fact If I speak to a group of college kids, uh, I talk about the bankruptcy company Coming and the wars that were involved in and all the problems that we have the attack on civil liberties And it gets down. Uh, you know, my average talk would be say 40 minutes or so And but the last five minutes is to talking about, you know, the answer Because they uh What this is overwhelming and the answer, of course, I don't think it's complicated at all sometimes just to simplify I said, you know, if you want to start Just have people read the constitution and try to use that as a guideline, you know But it isn't I don't I just don't think That the answer is in congress and voting I don't believe we're going to have all of a sudden an influx of libertarian minded people We have three four five six, you know That are that are good and few pretty good But that is not the way it's going to occur Even though I do believe that the only real revolution real change Comes from the prevailing attitudes of the people what they they endorse and that's all system of government So it's it's uh, something that uh, uh, I think will come and that's where I'm optimistic Is the change in attitude and times and and and the internet as bad as it's turned out to be and how challenging it's been and the uh Incident that lewd described to me who and this was uh, even before Before much of the campaign had gotten in this was early. This was this was a reflection not of me I probably wasn't that well known at that time, but that issue was well known But it's well known because austrian economics and sound money is out there and there are some college kids out there That know about it. So I think I think we're uh making progress. I think there's going to be a collapse I don't think we're going to transition out of this and uh, I think there's a much better chance But that doesn't mean I let up and say oh, okay We've done enough But it it all depends on the education changing people's minds and it's young people and remember It's not a numbers game. You don't have to have you don't have to have 51 You have to have a minority that's uh irate and uh are willing to champion the cause of liberty and we'll out and do it And I think it's out there But it still needs a lot more boosting and all but it will not happen Uh that and I think lude touched on the real reason is it's a bully pulpit. It's a chance You know, I always wanted to deal with the issue of ideas And I had nothing no way to get involved in the early 70s Uh and the brenton woods thing was uh, you know occurring So I decided nobody else in texas wanted to run for that particular seat So I did it just to speak out, you know, so it was a it was a vehicle But I was speaking out on my terms and quite frankly I thought nobody would pay any attention and even when I started in the presidential race I was convinced I know nobody's gonna pay attention So there's something out there and I think the people are starved for our message And that's why everybody has this obligation, you know to go out and do whatever they do And when people ask me what to do and like I have a you know, I have a list of things that you have to do No, everybody has to figure out where they're most valuable And uh, even if it's just uh, taking your mailing list and sending them materials and talking to people But uh, every everybody has a as an obligation. I'm sure there's plenty of people in this room I've started their own organization and they're reaching a lot of people So that's where the real revolution. That's where I'm optimistic I want to say like Ron. I'm extremely optimistic and I see it in the young people and Just huge numbers of I mean they're far more Austrian economists teaching in American universities today than they've ever been the case by many magnitudes still just a few compared to Keynesians or Moneterists, but still it's an advancement. I also see it in the in the increasing intelligence and character and Abilities of the students we're attracting. I mean, they really are extraordinary young people who are going to achieve Who have achieved and we're going to achieve much for them for their own careers and for our for our movement Uh, so I think it's I think that uh, there's every reason to hope Uh, as Ron points out far more people are aware of the Fed Far more people are aware of what the government and intervention in the economy does So when the collapse comes it's not going to be we can certainly hope Like 29 where where it's easy for a Roosevelt to come in and establish a dictatorship Excuse me We we have our we'll have our problems, uh, but we have a much better chance today And um, we all just have to keep working keep spreading the word start a website, uh Compile a mailing list Speak to organizations There's so much everybody can do to help spread the word and uh, it's it's working Will it be in time? Well, we just again have to hope and pray that it is in time But uh, we're in much better shape than we ever have been Uh, and certainly since the 19th century Yeah, I have the last of the submitted joint questions Uh, but before I give that, um, I'd like to point out that I asked that very question of murray Rothbard at the first mesis university I ever went to and uh He said very clearly and distinctly. He said that in the short run He's very pessimistic if you look around it always seems like there's plenty of bad things But he said in the long run if you look at the long run Time frame. He said he was very very optimistic okay, uh the last of the uh submitted questions If each of you had a genie in a bottle And could ask the genie Uh to fulfill one or three wishes, what would you wish for? Abolish the government My mind would be very similar that all all activity social uh economic whatever would be on a voluntary basis no coercion Okay, first question Well, of course, we should be concerned and under the Original plan they would have been a lot more important than they are today, but I I think that uh, the states it was left up to the states to have individual constitutions But i'm not quite sure the point does that mean that shouldn't you worry about the loss of liberty at the state level? I would say yes, that is too. So you just go down if we If you abolish government that means you will have a lot less government all the way up and down And it would a voluntary society is quite different. You have a voluntary government too You have uh, you know if you need rules and regulations, they're going to be local and they'll be in your Uh housing project or your condominiums or whatever there'll be some restraints made But it would all be voluntary but not by by governments that uh, you know have you know power that they Abuse in which they've been doing for a long time. So, um, I think it would be developed They would be taken care of in the individual states You know if we if we drastically reduce the size and scope of the federal government And you had much more authority at the state level I think it would be more more More competitive. I think the uh, uh, people in california would be quite different than the the people in texas And uh, the one important thing that if we can get even if we don't get rid of the federal government but reduce it I think uh, one thing that we ought to have in this rule if it's going to be voluntary is that uh, When a state or state isn't You know happy with the federal government that they have easy access to secession What a return to the constitution with just excise taxes and uh tariffs Be better than what we have today abolishing income and sales taxes and property taxes Well, I think almost anything could be better than what we have today So it's really um, how much government you want, uh, if there's still a desire for that much government Then yes, that would be better the the tax that um, that I despise the most is the income tax Uh, because the income that you have is a reflection of your energy So and it all belongs to you today The it established principle no matter what the rate is the principle is established that your effort that That you put forth for your own benefit and your family's benefit The the results of that all belong to the government And then the government says what portion you can spend under what condition? So getting rid of the income tax would be a tremendous benefit Now if you did will it down to a lot less taxes that um, it would be a big help, but ultimately um, the way you collect taxes Is secondary to uh, it's secondary to the whole principle of spending I call spending is a tax Because right now if the government spends another trillion dollars like I go into, you know, uh, This year another trillion dollars worth of deficits, you know, what can they do raise the taxes? Well, no, they can't raise another taxes to balance the budget Okay, what can they do they can borrow they can borrow to a degree, but eventually You know even under these circumstances, you know The interest rates are going to go up. So you have to monetize the debt So they print the money But it's all a tax on the people because if you dilute the money the the inflation tax goes to the middle class in the poor So it's the spending that counts and of course the spending Uh precipitates the deficits So it's uh, it's the it's the kind of thing that the spending and the principle and the role of government How big it's going to be is the key issue and uh, quite frankly, I think we're I'm optimistic And we're going to be moving in the right direction and salvage a lot of the mess that we have But I don't think we're going to reach, uh, you know the utopia where there's zero taxes But we have to aim for the very least amount and we have to get the government out of the business Of regulating our lives policing the world and running the economy and uh, you might be able to come up with a tax I don't think, uh, you know under those circumstances Whether the user tax is the worst kind of tax in the world, you know If if you don't use the highways, why do you have to pay for it? You know what we right now one thing at my hometown that I fought in uh, congress for a long time was, uh, the port The port you had to always finance the port the port and they lobbied and they got everybody to pay for the port And we have a port tax in our area and it's all built for dow chemical and all the chemical companies Why don't they pay for the port and why don't they pay for the canal? The user tax would get you around a lot of that and save this all this Evil lobbying that they come to washington dc What we have to do is uh, you know, uh lobby congress for the for the bailout Of course, they've already collected it for that purpose, but they spent it on something else So it goes in the deficits. So it has to be that has to be changed. So I think user fees would help You know speaking to the the question, um It's interesting that the southern conservatives argued for a what they called a revenue tariff as versus a protective tariff To be the sole source or the major source of government funding and they argued that If you raise the tariff too high to make it a protective tariff, which is what people in the north wanted That it would cut the income to the government and therefore they would have an incentive to keep it low They suggest that five percent who knows what if any of this would have worked But that's It's an interesting idea. I think if we just had a five percent tariff and you get rid of all the other taxes I think most of us would accept that as a pretty good deal Yes, um for dr. Paul, please Back to china for a moment given I'd say they're a vowed Permits that they want to overtake us economically and overtake us militarily Is there anything that you would do with china to change our relationship and and understanding the tariffs or taxes? And I understand all that but is there anything to combat what china is trying to do against the united states Well, the one thing I I think it's easier to say what we wouldn't do And that is to confront them unnecessarily. There's there's no reason why we have to put our navy in the south china sea You know, that's like, uh, what would we say if the the chinese had their attire navy in the Gulf of Mexico? You know, we might not like that. So, uh, I would say it's more what we shouldn't be doing And I think continue to offer the branch of trade Uh, they they need us to buy their stuff, you know, but nobody wants to take it into consideration I if you want to sort some of that those trade problems, you'd have to look at the monetary system We have license to steal through printing of money We have the we we have the monopoly control of the reserve currency of the world And we take this and we export our inflation. We send it to china We buy their stuff and we get a good prices and it's all china's fault So so the chinese though, and what do they do? They don't go and Excuse me, they don't go and burn our federal reserve notes and shrink our money supply so that we don't have inflation No, they accommodate as they buy up all our debt and the process continues So we have to break that up and I think the best thing we could do for china is admit the shortcomings on our part Which contributes to it if they make mistakes and tax their people and different things That that's their problem But uh, I think we should work very very hard to have better trading relationships with with china And uh, you know if you look at the history of china, they generally they have never been as aggressive worldwide With troops as we are we're in 170 countries, you know with military and we continue to do this and china is You know expressing themselves better because uh, you know, uh, they they should probably argue Hey, look, we think we're getting a bum rap. You've given us all this all this paper And it's losing its value. So we're tired of this So my answer to that is not so much of what we would what we would do but with what we would should quit doing How do we deal with uh being free to avoid vaccines if we choose How do we avoid public schools and how do we avoid this excessive Okay, uh, and I thought a lot about this because you know to turn a switch in reverse It's not going to be very easy So you had the goal always has to be that you have to Allow competition you have to get rid of the mandate. So obama care was really wicked But the worst part was the mandate forcing everybody into it and that's the way with schools Actually, we've improved ourselves with uh with uh, you know homeschooling. I mean it was worse in the early 80s And uh and and it's better but that doesn't mean we're home free. There's always going to be competition So yes, there's still we still if you're determined to raise your kids outside the government schools You're able to and even though you pay twice you pay your taxes for school And then you pay for the private school But the private education homeschooling education is so much less that you can survive that So the most important thing to protect the transition is protecting your right to compete Money is the one thing that we worked on competing currencies The bills that I had on there is no sales tax and no capital gains tax So you wouldn't have to worry about it and now we've uh, uh, recently we've had two With the campaign for liberty that I work on We have helped to get it passed. I think it was in Arizona and Wyoming where it's recognized that That golden silver will not would not be taxed as money. It's ridiculous You know, if you decide to use American gold coins in american silver coins You're a criminal because you get hauled in by the irs and and then they say well, uh, you know, if if you if you If you have silver coins and you spend it. Well, it's worth instead of $20 25 Oh, you have to pay a capital gain stageline. No, you have to you have to protect the the right to compete with the government And there is a bit of that now the did you mention uh, inoculations immune? Yeah, that's another one It's tougher and it's getting harder on there, but uh, you uh, there People can get around it, but it is very difficult, but it should be recognized. We need more, uh, people educated to the danger Without saying that we don't we're going to pass the law and nobody's ever allowed to take a vaccine again You know, that would be ridiculous, but it should mean that if you're going to raise your kids and you understand there could be some danger the The child can't make the decision. It's your responsibility, but you know, you hear about Parents going to prison, you know for this for for not going along with inoculations That is similar to the tax the government owns us and uh on vaccines the government owns the kids And that's the way that's why even though there is no draft now I've always fighting to get rid of the registration of the graph. That means the government owns us Yeah, we don't need you today, but tomorrow we might when we own you So it's always that message. So we always have to go after that and give them a different message