 According to today's New York Times, more than a dozen companies in Silicon Valley are in various stages of creating flying automobiles. They're called airplanes, you imbeciles. The skies are dangerous enough with these unmanned drones flying up my rectum. I have to worry about my neighbor Jerry coming home drunk at 3 a.m., flying into my bedroom window while I'm banging his wife. Christ, I am so sick of the future and it hasn't even arrived yet. It's 3 a.m. Tuesday, April 25th, 2017. I'm David Feldman. We have a lot of shows, so let's get right to it. Yes, I'm angry about the future. Welcome to the broadcast. I'm David Feldman. DavidFeldmanshow.com. Please, friend me on Facebook, follow me on Twitter. On today's program, Bonnie McFarlane, Rich Voss, Brodie Stevens, Stephen Pearl, Howie Klein, and Mr. Methane. Stay with me. Yes, Mr. Methane. On today's show, comedian Bonnie McFarlane, she recently released a new book, You're Better Than Me, a memoir published by chef Anthony Bourdain. It recounts Bonnie's upbringing and comedic career. She joins us while cooking dinner for her husband, Rich Voss. Speaking of cooking and Anthony Bourdain, what happened there? And Anthony Bourdain, on Friday's show this Friday, I talked with chef Jeremiah Tower. He has been credited with pioneering the culinary style known as California cuisine, but so much more than that. Anthony Bourdain says it all starts with Jeremiah Tower. All modern restaurants, all modern cooking starts with Jeremiah Tower. And we talked with Jeremiah on Friday's show about a new documentary Anthony Bourdain has produced about Jeremiah Tower. It's called The Last Magnificent, which is incredible. I saw it last Thursday and it is a masterpiece. Brodie Stevens is on the show today. You know him from countless television shows. You've seen his documentary comedy series for HBO. Brodie Stevens, enjoy it. And then you saw his comedy central documentary comedy series. Brodie Stevens, enjoy it. One of the funniest, most loved comics in the business. But on today's show we talk baseball. Did you know that Brodie is a pitcher? He played over at Arizona State, almost made it to the majors. The science of baseball with Brodie Stevens and the intersection with comedy. How being a pitcher and being a stand-up are related. And I think this will be inspirational for you. I really do mean that. It will be inspirational. Speaking of inspiration, Steven Pearl is one of the original gangsters or gangsters of the San Francisco comedy scene. He's funnier today than he was when I first watched him. Lightning bolts from God. When I was starting out, there were three guys. Jeremy Kramer, who you know from the show. Robin Williams and Steven Pearl. You watch these guys perform and you had to stare into the abyss. You had to do a gut check and say, should I keep doing this? Because I will never, ever be as funny as Steven Pearl, Jeremy Kramer or Robin. Steven Pearl joins us on today's show. You youngsters, listen to this. Listen to this conversation with Steven Pearl. He is what comedy is all about. Howie Klein is the founder and treasurer of the Blue America Pack. He writes the Down with Tyranny blog. And today we talk about pretty much everything. Cooking, Trump, that race in Georgia, and whether or not the lousy Democrats are ever going to take back the house. Well, last week I talked about Janine Garofalo. She was a guest on our show a week ago today, last Tuesday. On Friday's show, I recalled the night she had to follow Mr. Methane, Mr. Methane, at the Montreal Comedy Festival. Well, guess what? He's on the show today. This is for real. Mr. Methane is a performing flatulist or pedomain. He performs the art of controlled anal voicing. He employs the same exact technique as the 19th century Frenchman Joseph Pujol, a.k.a. Le Pedomain. And Mr. Methane has performed at the world's top comedy festivals in Montreal, Melbourne and Edinburgh, as well as many public and private shows for very exclusive clients. I'm not making this up. There actually is a guy named Mr. Methane, and Janine Garofalo had to follow him at the Just For Laugh comedy festival. We talk to Mr. Methane later on in the show. Coming up, Bonnie McFarland. Bonnie McFarland. I always like to help people who are just starting out in show business. Thank you. I've been doing it a long time. What is your name again? How do I pronounce it? Feldman. Feldman. Bonnie McFarland is the host of My Wife Hates Me. It's a great podcast that she does with Rich Voss. Women Aren't Funny, which also happens to be the name of a documentary. Oh, you're on fire today. Women Aren't Funny is an amazing documentary, so funny. And if you want insight on how to raise a child, see Women Aren't Funny. I was so proud of your husband in that movie because your daughter's in it. Why? Because you raise your kid properly. Let's talk about that in a second. I don't know that anyone else saw what you saw. You're better than me. From that documentary. You're better than me is also the name of your autobiography, which you can buy on Amazon. If you want to see Bonnie McFarland, kids, I am performing with her at the punchline in Philadelphia on May 7th at 7 o'clock Sunday, May 7th, the Philadelphia punchline. We're doing a benefit with Jonathan Katz, Dr. Katz, for some project. You know, I asked for you. I asked for you. They asked me a headline that I asked for you. And they said, no, I had to fight for you to get on this thing. But I think you're going to do okay. What? You didn't know that? No. Is this really coming as a shock to you? They didn't want you. I don't know how to make it clearer. They did not want you on the show. And I had to say yes, no. Put them on. He'll make everyone else look great. I thought I was going to encourage you and be kind of sending and patronizing and tell the audience. Thank you to it. I was going to tell the audience to watch this kid. She's a real comer. Is that true? They didn't want me for the benefit? Really? No. They didn't. Yeah, they were like, ew. We got enough Jews. They said at one point, I said, that's ridiculous. This is comedy. We never have enough Jews. Man. How well do you know Jonathan Katz? What? How well do you know Jonathan Katz? I don't know him at all. I was kind of looking forward to meeting him. You really don't know him or your friends at all? Now I don't know what's real and what's real. Oh, you've gotten that. I got you. Also, Bonnie McFarlane is, you are one of the funniest people around. And I want to get back to being patronizing. I want to get back to condescending. I want to alpha dog you. I need to be the one who's telling you how funny you are. And you're doing, this is a transactional appearance. The truth is, I have to write for your husband's 30th birthday party. Your husband turning 30. He's turning 30 and they're roasting him. Rich Foss. Rich Foss is turning 30. And there's a roast. He lies about his age. I will say that. He's actually younger than that. He's somewhere between 25 and 90. So I have to, he had the nerve. I mean, if I ever speak to him, I'm not going to, this is between you and me. Because if I ever see him face to face, because usually when I see him, we're not facing each other. It's in a bus station, restroom. And we're never, but if I ever, if I ever see him face to face and we're locking it. Where the hell does he get the Cajones to ask me, David Feldman, to write jokes for him for his birthday roast? I mean, that must have, he must have had to summon up a lot of courage to ask me. Was it email or was it, did he make the call? He made the call. Oh boy, he really wanted you back. He went, he went, he actually used a telephone. To ask me to write for him for his birthday roast. This is the guy he writes for the Academy Awards. He writes for, you know. Yeah, and he was like, he's like, who, who can help me? It was you. Who, who, he said more. He said, who's desperately out of work? Who will not say no to me on this one? And he said, all right, Bonnie will do your podcast. That's what he said. He said, he literally said how he said it. He said, all right, I'll turn her out is what he said. I was wondering why he's giving me so much freedom today. He said, if you write for the joke. He said, one of my bitches will do your podcast. That was exactly what he said. I'm not trying to so discontent between you. I heard him yelling at Raina earlier, so she must have said no. By the way, you are, you are raising the greatest kid ever. Because. Well, not sure, because she, she, you know, I, I honestly, because she comes to the club with me all the time. And so she, she tries to be cool amongst the comedians and she does some very hurtful things to people. She's made a couple of the comedians cracks. No. So the other night where the comedy seller and all of us who is, uh, she may own part of the seller. I don't know, but all her artwork is all along. You see the, the, the beautiful artwork that's all done at all. That's in the comedy. It's at the, um, the olive branch or whatever that's called. Upstairs of the, um, all a tree. The restaurant upstairs. And I say to Raina, she's trying to talk to Raina and Raina's being too cool. And then I said, she did all these pictures. Don't you think she's a fantastic artist? And Raina goes, yeah, she's no van go. It was, it was not, it did not go over well. That went over like a lead balloon. But that was not good. And so it's like hard because I feel like I've, you know, I feel responsible because I feel like I put her in the like, I put her in a prison situation, you know? She's, she's, she's in the yard. I just leave her in the yard with the other prisoners. And then when I come back, I get mad that she's tough and angry. You know what I mean? She doesn't know how to deal with real society. I don't think that's true because my kids were raised the same exact way. My kids were surrounded by some of the funniest people in the world. They learned that there's a time and a place for bitterness. Right. There is. And she, these kids are much smarter than we give them credit for. And they, they realize this is, this is a way mommy and daddy make a living. And being kind of truthful and biting is a skill. That's appreciated in certain places. And they know not to, has she ever been, I guarantee you, she has never been disciplined at school. I guarantee you've never, never, never, never, never. In fact, it's not an issue like when other kids are being bad. I don't think she feels the need, honestly, you know, to use bad language and stuff because she gets to, you know, because she gets to do it when she feels like it really at home or, you know, being sarcastic and saying what you don't mean in real life isn't a good way to live. And I, and I discovered in your husband discovered and you discovered it's better to make a living being kind of biting sarcastic, addressing the elephant in the room because polite society won't. There's a skill to it and you should be paid to do it. But in real life, it makes for an unpleasant person. And your kids learn that they realize that there's a skill to it and she's dealing with amateurs. She goes to school and she's dealing with the bullies are just amateurs. She's met Nick DiPallo. Why would she possibly respect the class clown or the bully or try to make Well, this kid, this kid on the bus once I've said to her, your dad looks like Donald Trump and she goes, your dad looks like Hillary Clinton. Which I also think is hilarious that the nine-year-olds are, they're so involved in politics. At one point, right after the election, there was a bunch of nine-year-old girls in my daughter's room and they were all, at one point I thought one of the girls was going to start the chant, lock her up. And so I had to go into the bedroom and I opened the door and I said, no more politics. No more talk about politics. I fundamentally disagree with things that are going on in this room. It's a nine-year-old girl. I mean, I don't know if it's good or bad. What is worse for a child to be exposed to? I'm being serious. My stand-up act, your husband's stand-up act, or Donald Trump talking on television. I know. I'm being serious. Because you know why it's like a crazy thing is like, and I think it just is like a slow seeping in of where when the president doesn't have to be truthful, then who does? You know what I mean? And then it just becomes this thing where, you know, I just think like now everyone's just started lying. It's just a thing that everyone does now. That just happens. No one has to tell the truth anymore. Yeah, it's happened pretty quickly. I've got Trump fatigue. We have Howie Klein on the show later on. He keeps me honest. Ever since Donald Trump got elected, or he didn't get elected, but ever since they installed him, I've been like, this again? Oh, I don't know. It's so uninspiring. And I kind of understand the people who aren't interested in politics, who aren't interested in policy and government, because I know it's horrible for me. Well, because, you know, you get up every morning and then you just read, it's like Groundhog's Day. You just read all this stuff again, and then nothing, you think like, oh, okay, today's the day where something's going to happen, and then it doesn't happen. And then you look at other countries. You're from Canada. You look at other countries who are mature, and they have problems. I hear Rich Voss in the background. Yes. Is that Rich Voss talking to you? Who are you talking to? Who is it? David Feldman. Tell him this is an opinion with my dinner, and I haven't seen any jokes, so he was going to help me. He said he hasn't seen any jokes yet. He said you were going to help me. Tell him that the... Where's the jokes? That's what he wants to know. Tell him this is my, the payment up front is, Bonnie, this is, he said, Bonnie does your podcast. This is a quick pro quo. I do the podcast, then he writes the jokes. First of all... Is this the dinner hour? First of all, I'm glad that she's getting... Bonnie, are you okay? Bonnie, are you okay? Your voice sounds kind of raspy. He's mad that I didn't finish the laundry and the dinner's not on the table. No, no, no, no, no. Here's the thing. I love David Feldman. I love his podcast, because after I did it, two tweets. Two tweets. Okay, let me tell you something about this lonely man and his closet doing his podcast. Nobody gives a shit. Leave us alone. We're in dinner. Send me my fucking jokes and then we'll do your dumb podcast. What I'm saying, we're big, we're big acts. We're big acts separately and we're big acts as a family. Okay, so let me tell you something. Hey, closet queen. Not closet and gay. That's what he's doing with his dumb podcast. Whatever stupid network it's on. Fly by night podcast, whatever. Okay, leave us alone. Send me some jokes. Hey, good talking to you. Bye. Oh, my God. Any response to that? Am I interrupting your dinner hour? Do you sit and eat dinner as a family? No, no, we all run into the corners like little rats. And we sometimes... Don't let his face fool you. We do not go like little rats. Sometimes our daughter will come in and go, can I have some more and then we beat her. We beat her as a couple. We usually play tennis around this time, but I took this podcast instead. Well, what she calls tennis is me called smacking her back and around. Unless I'm a little watch-yorky. All right, let me get back to Bonnie and plugging our gig in Philadelphia. I'm excited to do this because I haven't seen Jonathan in so long. And one of my very first gigs at Bananas when I got to America was with him. Oh, hey. Yeah. Oh, wait. I can catch. Yeah. Well, I don't like to be one who harbors a resentment at all. Okay. I really don't. I try to let him go, which I can't. But I remember when I first started comedy, I used to book a couple of comics, One Nighter's in Jersey, so I can get stage time. And guess who I always hired? Jonathan Katz. Love Jonathan Katz. I loved him. He had his guitar and some weird act. I don't know what he did with the guitar. I think he had somebody else. No, he had a guitar. Okay. Do you remember when Jonathan Katz used to go with the guitar? Yes, he had a guitar. Yes. And he had a guitar. And I always, always use him whenever I open one of my horrible One Nighters. Who would I call Jonathan Katz? And guess what? Guess who never got a call during Dr. Katz? Richard Voss. That's when I can't let it go because I'm trying. You're talking about the 40 years ago. You're talking about the Peabody award-winning Dr. Katz and Comedy Central. Which I did. Which I did five times. Oh, my God. You did it five times? Wow. That should have been in your intro in Montreal when you followed me. I didn't even listen. Our next act. Our next act, you might have heard five times on Jonathan Katz. Try to listen now. Thank you. You're so mean to everyone. And then you always wonder, like, why doesn't anyone invite me to do stuff? What are you kidding me? I'm a big fan of... Do you know who's on the show today, Rich? The whole show, yours? Yeah, you know who you guys are following? I don't know whoever you met on the street. Mr. Methane. Who's who? Mr. Methane is on the show. What I wanted to do to your wife is put her in the same company as Janine Garofalo. Janine Garofalo had to follow Mr. Methane in Montreal about 20 years ago. Who's Mr. Methane? You don't know who Mr. Methane is? Bonnie knows who Mr. Methane is. I don't either. Sorry, we haven't been doing comedy. We've kind of, yeah. We never really worked saloons. He's a performing flatulist. He has... He asked chirps for a living. Like, remember Le Petamain? Have you ever heard of Le Petamain? No, we don't go out to a French restaurant. No, he only smells like the French. He doesn't, he's not French. He farts for a living. And Janine had to follow him at a gala in Montreal about 20 years ago. And I was talking about it on the show last week. And I called Mr. Methane and I decided that I would do the interview with Mr. Methane and then Bonnie would have to follow Mr. Methane. Well, first of all, Janine is one of our favorite acts. That's one. Two, I feel good as a dude that you have a guy that makes a living out of gas. I feel good. Who are you bringing on next? The guy whose left arm is stuck in the air? It's a visual. It's a visual, but you know what I'm saying. Who's on next, Sammy? So, who really goes by SS? I would love some. I'm too hip for this stuff. I'm really hip. I heard, is Jonathan Cass, doesn't he have like, is he sick or something? Of you, he's sick of you. That's why you didn't, that's why Bonnie and I, when he called me, he said, who do you recommend for this show? And I said, there's this one young comic I want to bring along, her name is Bonnie McFarlane and she can open for me. Let's have her do five minutes before I go up. She could use the stage time. And he said, didn't she marry Rich Voss? And I said, yeah, but we can't have him on the show. He's not ready. He's not ready. That's what I said. Well, you know. And then Jonathan Cass said, I never liked him. Never liked him? I never used him. When he was, the whole time this conversation went on, was he playing guitar or was he just talking into the phone? How did he do it? He said, Rich Voss, the guy who books those crappy rooms in Jersey? Does he do comedy? Oh, that's what he said. You know what, Dave? Everybody talks about your acne skills and I could see why now. Because that story made me lose my appetite. I can't talk anymore. Because I want to at least try to have this. I can't talk anymore. Yeah, we got to have dinner. It's going cold. Okay. We'll wrap it up in five minutes. What are you having for dinner? We'll wrap it up in five minutes. What are you having for dinner? I made a chicken pasta with olives and spinach. Does that sauce have sugar in it? No. Let me hear him berate you for, No, listen, first of all, my wife knows how to cook. My wife grew up on a farm. My wife used to kill chickens. So people in my hometown could eat. My wife is one of the best cooks. I'm telling you, you'd think she's multi-talented. She's like a cell runner, director, writer, comedian. She's the best cook in the world. She's the best cook in the world. She's the best cook in the world. She's the best cook in the world. So how are we doing here? I'm silent and he's a good cook, I don't know if he vary from director to cook. She's a good cook, she's a good cook. Hello I'm watching you, you know your own lunch? I'm installing it? You think so? I think so. My wife is路 heart. She's lived well in a province. All right, we're going to wrap it up. All right, I'll let you- Clearly, I have a lot of stuff for Dr. Katz to fix. Right, and we're going to do therapy with Dr. Katz. That's- Yeah. We're going to be on- and it will be Sunday at the Punchline in Philadelphia, and everybody should listen to My Wife Hates Me with Rich Voss and Bonnie McFarland. And it's Rich's 30th birthday celebration that I now have to write jokes for. Oh, it's June 26th at the Village Underground, and you can get tickets now. Why is he- It's June 26th? Yes. Why is he giving me- He's asking me for jokes now? I mean, he's a nervous Nellie, you know? He may not be alive by June 26th. Well, we can only hope. Why would I- Thank you, Bonnie. Your lips are God's ear, my friend. Thank you so much for doing this. Thank you. Oh, thank you for having me on. It's good to talk to you. I can't wait to do the show on Sunday. And I got you this gig. I got you the gig just so you know. I had a fight for you. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm talking about for this podcast. I had a fight for you to be on my podcast. A lot of people didn't want you. They didn't think you were ready. I think I showed them. I think you did good for you. Good for you. Thank you. Thank you. Enjoy dinner. Thank you. You've always been a big supporter. I appreciate that. I have been. Thank you. All right. I'll talk to you later. Bye-bye. Bye. Bonnie McFarland and I will be- We will be at the punchline in Philadelphia Sunday, May 7th, 2017 performing at a benefit for Artwell with Dr. Katz Live. Please join us for Laugh Well, a night of healing humor in support of Artwell with Dr. Katz Live. That's Sunday, May 7th, 2017. The show will feature Dr. Jonathan Katz and friends. Me, Bonnie McFarland, Johnny Showcase and Rumi Kitchen. It's the punchline in Philadelphia for more information. Please go to theartwell.org to find out about Artwell. Artwell's mission is to support young people and their communities through arts education and creative reflection to discover their strengths, face complex challenges and awaken their dreams. For more information, go to theartwell.org and you can find out how to buy tickets to support this important cause. You can buy tickets to come see me, Bonnie McFarland, Johnny Showcase, Rumi Kitchen and of course the Peabody Award- winning Dr. Katz. We're doing Dr. Katz Live Sunday, May 7th, 2017. Come out, Laugh and support an important cause. And now, can you feel it? Brody Stevens. The David Feldman Radio Program is made possible by listeners like you. You sad, pathetic humps. Okay, we are rolling. Yes, hello. Brody Stevens is maybe the most beloved comedian in Los Angeles. There's nobody who dislikes Brody Stevens. Other than maybe Brody Stevens, I fell in love with Brody at the improv, I don't know, ten years ago. He was hosting the show and he was about two minutes into his act and just turned on the audience and told him he didn't need to put up with any of their crap because he just had a meeting with Jimmy Miller who was interested in him and they didn't know who Jimmy Miller was and then he explained Jimmy Miller is Jim Carrey's manager so you don't need this and then he complained about management of the improv and the lighting and the sound system and the waitresses and the lineup and I thought this is somebody I could be friendly with. Please welcome to the show my beloved Brody Stevens. Hello, sir. Yes, thank you for that great intro. Hello, David. I would say that you described that pretty vividly. Yeah, I get on, you know, I just feel that I've lived such a troubling life before comedy, in comedy that I just can't take the audience going again. You're going to add to that? No, that's not going to happen. I've been beaten down too much now I'm fighting back and a lot of times the audience is like they're neutral. They don't realize they're in the middle of it. I don't know who I'm going after but the audience gets the brunt of it. Can I give you a compliment and then we'll get serious or funny or whatever you want? Sure. Okay. You had one of the most impossible jobs in Hollywood that is a warm-up act for television shows. Nobody, very few people, very few comedians make the leap from warming up a television audience to being an edgy comedian and appearing on television because conventional wisdom is it's two separate animals warming up an audience for a TV show and then appearing on a TV show, two separate things. You seamlessly transferred from warming up a TV audience to starring and appearing on television. Why is that? Well, I think people thought it was funny, maybe. You know, they saw me doing the warm-up. Yes. Warm-up is very hard. I was just good at it. I was almost too good at it where I continued to do it and I was able to do stand-up also but I was burning... You had to really watch it burning the candle at both ends. But somehow, I think just being around it so much and being in front of cameras I was able to separate it. I was still a stand-up comedian but when I did warm-up I was there to do my job which is to warm-up the crowd make the comedians on the show have the most real experience because I've been on shows. I could relate to them. I know what it's like when the audience is phoning so I would take care of the comedians and say let's make this real and I think that comedians appreciated that and made for a better TV taping. It looked better so I did like 3,000 TV shows but I kind of grown out of it which is a good thing but it's painful. It's a hard job. You grow but the job stays the same. And then you go to another show and now you've got to start all over with these producers or stage manager and it just became harder for me but I grew out of it but I still feel like it's a good skill and the right platform there. Yeah, I want to stay with this but first I want my audience to know who you are because we have listeners all over the world and some of these people don't follow comedy and don't know how beloved you are. You've appeared on Late Night on NBC, Jimmy Kimmel Premium Blend, The Late Late Show on CBS The Late World Late World with Zach, the best damn sports show period, Children's Hospital, Tosh Point 0, Fox NFL Hangover 1, Hangover 2 Yeah, I'm getting to the movies. Oh, I'm sorry, I just jumped ahead. Hangover 1, Hangover 2 Jesus is Magic, I am comic you had your own series on HBO Go and the police are coming for us. You're sitting outside a Starbucks We're three years ago. I moved in the neighborhood I thought it would be quiet or I moved down the street in the neighborhood. That's okay and Comedy Central's Brodie Stevens enjoy it but I want to get back to warming up an audience. You've also done warm up for the best damn sports show, Late World with Zach, The Man's Show, Chelsea Lately, The Burn with Jeff Ross, the Gesselnic Offensive, Ridiculousness Who Gets the Last Laugh at midnight and Why with Hannibal Bress. I think warming up an audience as a stand up comic is a kamikaze mission because then I'll be quiet and I want you to react to this and you kind of talked about it but this is why I have so much respect for you. When I was working on one of the shows that you did, The Warm Up the comics the comedy writers would all rush down to see you do the warm up. I've never experienced that before where we all went down to watch the warm up guy the guy getting the TV audience in the mood for the show and that's the baton death march because you're trying to please 12 different masters when you're warming up a television show you're trying to please the host who doesn't want you killing he wants you warming them up he doesn't want you boiling them over then there are the network executives who have no idea who you are what you're doing and automatically dislike you because you're the warm up guy then you have the audience who you're servicing you've got to keep them happy things go wrong during a television taping there are stops and starts you have to be in the moment quick spontaneous you turned it into an est meeting somehow you turned it into a Tony Robbins awake the giant within and everybody left the show feeling better you were like a tone it was like a Tony Robbins event right I mean I think there's elements of that definitely you I saw yes because I saw the benefits of having an audience sitting up engaged focused energy you know I learned that at best amp sport show that was my first gig back in 2001 it was my first real I had done stand up on TV at that point I had been on the CBS late show and I did a comedy central premium blend as a stand up and then I had a friend who was writing on this Saturday night live meet sport show and they brought me in for the test show to do the warm up they brought me in and they ended up going with the show and for me it was like whoa I get to be on the fox lot and see all these great baseball players willy mays you know Ernie Banks Pete Rose all the great athletes they come through so it was me having a sports background I loved it so it was my first paid gig which I wasn't paid much but that's where I learned energy because it was a sport show and I come from a sports background I played baseball in college at Arizona State and back in the 1988 when I was there we were at Arizona State we were learning about the mental energy from the baseball guys the mental game of baseball that's one reason why I went to school on Arizona because all the major league baseball teams were training there and I wanted to be around that be around baseball but when we started learning the mental skills approach about being positive and I had a chance it took six years into my comedy when I did the warm up and I was around the sport show bringing positive energy because I would have football teams in there at every high school football team in LA and the kids would be like slouching over I go guys we got to bring it you got to sit up let's go and the coaches would laugh like you're laughing see you're laughing see the coaches would love it and it made the show better it actually I was you know you're entertaining the crew also the camera guys don't want to hear the same stuff so you're making fun of the audience but you're also doing a good job yeah it's fun and you can be satisfied the idea of a comedy you know the writers first of all we're the most miserable human beings on the planet so by the time the show starts we're dead we're dead inside now our bodies are dead we go up to watch you and all of a sudden we're getting this pep talk you never see that in television nobody peps up an audience and tells them to remain positive and then you keep complimenting everybody throughout the show we have radium good job we need a little more energy second segment let's push it you're good a little more from you it's just reading it's reading them yeah here's the other thing for me I'm coming in at two o'clock with fresh energy so on that second shift and I just like yeah wake everybody up and get them going for dinner do you mind if we talk about baseball because you may be tired of discussing it but I might come to you from a different angle so can we talk about baseball you wanted to be a professional pitcher you went to Arizona your goal in life is to play professional baseball you hang out with professional baseball players those are your true idols I would say yes I get nervous around baseball players if you have one at bat in the major leagues I'm nervous around you and my influence is boxing I view stand up as a boxing match but you're a pitcher so you're coming at stand up with a whole different mindset is that a fair statement yeah yeah I'm pitching up there I mean I'm pretty let's say I'm one dimensional but yeah everything's like straight forward push through but yeah sometimes you gotta flip in a strike sometimes you gotta throw one in the dirt chase them I think my mindset I'm so in the moment I can't like not help myself that was the same thing with warm up I don't know if it's a good or bad thing but I'm kinda like you give me one task and I'm zoned in on it okay do you mind if I stay down this this neural pathway is where I want to go for a little while with you do you mind I'll fault yes no I don't thank you thank you I want to compare you for a second to me because my dad and I used to have catches when I was a kid and Little League was very traumatic for me I never understood baseball I was bad at baseball I was good at basketball bad at baseball I wanted to be a pitcher and I never knew until recently that when a pitcher that I know this sounds ridiculous to you I never knew that a pitcher could place the ball a professional pitcher I never knew that a pitcher had a strike zone and was hitting corners and could throw it precisely where he wanted to throw it I didn't know that until recently so as a pitcher you are a lefty I believe no I'm right hand you play but you hold the microphone with your right hand so I assumed you were a lefty no I'm right hand I'm joking do you know what hand do you know what hand you hold the microphone with honestly usually usually the left hand even though I'm right handed was there a decision to hold it with your left hand do you ever switch up do you ever do a hold it with your right no I hold my phone with my left I hold my I feel like I have more finesse with my left hand have you heard about this kid coming out of Seattle he's a switch holder he can hold a microphone on his left and his right that's funny I don't know that's funny let me ask you about your pitching career when did you first play Little League 1979 so you were nine years old you were Tarzana you were nine years old yeah what position did you play pitcher immediately you were a pitcher right into it when did you know you wanted to be a pitcher when I was just striking guys out it was fun to throw the ball and strike players out when you're in Little League you play all the positions I play a little first base a little left field but pitching was my thing before Little League was there sand lot baseball going on no I just was into trucks breaking things before Little League before organized Little League did you have I had extra energy honestly like maybe riding bikes a little bit or breaking a couple things like just the doctor told my mom like let him play Little League so before organized Little League you had not discovered that you wanted to be a pitcher no but I like the Dodgers my first baseball game was 1977 so that's when I started getting into baseball I grew up with the Dodgers and the Yankees in the World Series so who introduced you to baseball probably my dad and then my mom took over for the most part my dad would be at all my baseball games my parents were separated but divorced but my dad was in the baseball he took me to Angel Games and Oakland A Games because we lived up in the San Francisco Sacramento for a while and then the Reno took me to minor league baseball stadiums and I think I remember just going to Dodger Stadium and being around the atmosphere so I was really into that and then I think just playing baseball I had a strong arm and it was fun to strike guys out so I just was a good pitcher in terms of like blowing hitters away but I was wild I would hit guys not on purpose but I always just thought like a pitcher I mean that's how it is you don't know it's weird like you're either a pitcher or you're a hitter I mean some guys do both of course growing up but I was always a pitcher you know that's kind of my way I wasn't into sliding I wasn't into running the bases I'm not even into strategy I'm just like because it was one on one I wanted to strike the guy out I think that's what a lot of pitchers do they hit a ground ball maybe but I was just able how old were you in Little League when you were doing more than just throwing the ball over the plate pitching are you speaking about yeah when did I learn about how to become a pitcher yeah when did you throw one of the joys of having children is Little League it's yeah it is I hate to sound I don't even want to go down that path but some of the happiest moments of my life are watching my kids play Little League and one of the things I noticed is things you take for granted in watching baseball when you watch Little League when you watch 10 year olds just you know somebody hitting the ball to the shortstop and the shortstop throwing the guy out at first it's a miracle if a kid can do that at nine it's like watching Lindbergh land in France I mean it's just an amazing accomplishment it just looks so easy on television or at a major league game it just but it's truly impossible for a nine year old to pull that off as for the pitchers were you able to place the ball were you able to look at the strike zone what age were you what age were you saying to yourself I'm going to throw this high and inside when I became an all-star in Little League that was 1982 so I was 12 and I learned from a former major leaguer and from the all-star coach also taught me how to throw a change up he taught me how to pitch a little bit you don't have to strike everybody out here's a little put a little wrinkle on it because all I threw was fastballs and then I got with him for the all-stars and he taught me how to pitch a little bit told me you know he was big into the change up so that's when I started you know I didn't really I just worked on the throw a fastball and then throw a change up and then when I got into maybe when I was like 14 then I started throwing a curveball a little more okay what is a change up what is a change up a change up is basically just a slow pitch you think it's going to be you know you have the same arm action you hold it different in your your hand but they think it's a fastball and it's slow so if you're throwing you know 88 all the time and then you throw a pitch same arm action and they think it's going to be 88 but it ends up being 81 their timings all so you don't have their timings off and they're going to pull even if they make contact they're going to pull the ball um yeah I mean yeah probably um yeah they might not do a lot unless you hang it I mean that's a thing that's dangerous like if you throw a curveball and it's a slow hanger they can crush it I mean they can hit anything these days but it's a change up you don't think about are they going to pull you're you're throwing a change up to usually strike a guy out or maybe usually to strike a guy out I would say so you're not trying to like get a ground ball with a change up you're trying to get a ground ball with like a sinker which is a fastball that kind of moves down so when you think about ground ball like your instincts are right like oh he's going to pull it the only time you think like he's going to pull it's like when you want to double play and usually if you want to double play you're going to throw a two seam fastball which is a ball that sinks okay so but this isn't little league is it this is very sophisticated stuff this is uh this is the growth out of little league this goes from it comes quick you know you go from that little league and then you go to seniors now the mounds further back then you go to the then you're in high school and these kids in high school these days these days they train like major leagueers they're better now then they just have better training programs now but for me it was still learning the change up changing speeds you don't have to overpower guys so then I learned the breaking ball later on but first it was changing speeds before you get to before you get to you went to Arizona State for pitching correct but I want to stay in little league I want to stay in little league for a second okay back to little league because I followed little league that was my passion when my kids were in little league that was it might as well have been you know the the the 61 Yankees were the 61 Yankees great I don't know 27 Yankees the 27 the 69 Mets the 69 Mets there you go that's little league to me is the 69 Mets because you cannot believe as I remember the 69 Mets you couldn't believe they were actually winning and it was all teamwork there was there were really no standout anyway but let me get back to little league so you got a kid 12 years old pitching what does he have he has a fastball right yep he doesn't have a change up does he yeah he does a 12 year old in 1982 he has a change he's got a change up but does that affect the timing on these little leaguers they're just trying to make contact with the ball right I mean well yeah are you see I'm talking all stars little league I mean basic little league yes there's guys who they only have one pitch and that's why maybe they're not that good or they're I say when you're 12 these days is when you start they're throwing curve balls at 12 in little league or in all star games I would say a little bit of both but when I played it was in all star games so yes obviously the all stars are better and I'm saying these days the kids get better training and there's this better I think it's training is what what it is and just better knowledge and better nutrition so these kids are good hang on for one second hang on for one second I'm kind of amazed by this you start playing little league when you're 6 right 7 I was 8 I didn't play T-ball I went I went I didn't go into coach pitch I went straight in to international league which is but let me let me get back to little league I'm very curious about this because I remarry I get my vasectomy reversed I'm a 90 year old father with a 6 year old kid and I want him to play little league right I know that story I bring my 6 year old to play little league is there a 7 year old pitcher now an 8 year old pitcher on the mound going up against my son or daughter who can automatically size up the kid and say this is a piker I'm going to catch with his father I can strike him out in 3 pitches is that how sophisticated 9 year old and 10 year old little leagueers are these days how old is your kid he's a 7 year old playing against 9 year olds I'm a 90 year old guy I have a but is the kid playing against older kids no no no he started let's say as I recall my kids started playing little league when they were 7 first grade that's normal yes and then I skipped t-ball I was that good I went right into the 8 year old international league 45 foot mound hang on for one second I have an 8 year old kid and I want them to start playing little league but I'm 90 I can't even pick up my own ball let alone play catch with my son so he's in little league and he's going to go up at 8 years old having never played baseball before little league before and there's going to be a kid on the mound who's going to throw him a change up in a fastball and know that he doesn't play catch with his father he's going to be sized up yeah I would look at this kid Jewish kid I'm Jewish I could read his energy I'm not going to throw him a change I'm going to strike him out you're in the video games you're in the swim class I'm in the baseball I'm taking ground balls I'm catching, I'm hitting you're at the amusement park now when you step on the plate against me I strike you out that's what you do oh there was a guy he's friends with me on Facebook Michael Conakow he played for Lipton that was the team in little league and he was 8 years old but he was a man and he traumatized me I played for Scholastic growing up in Anglewood and he played for Lipton I have nightmares of having to go up against Michael Conakow you're in the basketball so you're that good at 8 you can be I had bad experiences I broke down on the mound I cried I got accused of throwing at kids and I wasn't and the umpire challenged me he said you were throwing at him I said no I wasn't and my coach really didn't defend me I was kind of out there on my own I had experience for me but I learned from that and made me stronger and then I like I said the all star coach he taught me how to be a winner he told me how to think you're better you're good he taught me about the believing the energy and I saw from early on going back to the warm up I saw what a winning confident caring you could win and be successful and help people's lives and I saw that and my coach he had a son and his son went on to be a major league coach and I'm friends with my little league teammate and now he's a coach with the Chicago Cubs and all of that how are they doing these days how are the Cubs doing I know I know you're joking but he's been he was with the Yankees and that's the other thing there was an influence on my little league coach so I learned from a major league a point of view you know it's like you're around major leagers you act like a major leagers you're around little leagers or even college kids you act like that so I was around people and through them I was kind of living vicariously through major leagers so and they won that's the thing with the major leagers and they were learning my friend was learning from them and now he's a major league coach he has five World Series rings and I used that proof when I did the warm up how positive energy and caring mattered and I learned that also at Arizona State so all these things I can kind of connect the dots how baseball and comedy in my life are kind of intertwined because it's so it's just a matter of inches and millimeters and centimeters with baseball and same thing with comedy you can lose an audience right Laura House do you know Laura? yeah from Texas one of you know she's one of these people you find out she's considered one of the top transcendental meditators teachers in the world not that it's a competition she is? yeah did not know that she teaches a type of meditation and she's considered like Chris McGuire you know Chris McGuire right he hires you all the time and he's got and by the way great baseball name as well Chris McGuire no relation to Mark he should be bad in cleanup so he told me you realize that you're talking to one of the top teachers of transcendental meditation Laura House so she was on the show talking about creating neural pathways in your brain towards positive energy and then the next day I'm on John Fugelsang show on Sirius and he starts saying the same thing to me the universe just was telling me create neural pathways in your brain that lead you towards positive thinking and as a picture you can actually see the ball as a metaphor for a positive neural pathway when you're thinking positive when you're in the right groove your baseball is a metaphor as it goes to the catcher is a metaphor for the positive energy neural pathway that we all need to develop in our brains yeah I mean that goes back to what I learned with the visualization it took me a while to get there too because my mind was too active when they would sit us down this is 1988 close your eyes and then it was the visualizing but then it was also positive affirmations and then you talk about Tony Robbins the awake and the giant within of course I read that taking action and when you play baseball you're around these guys so much you have to push each other I just saw the results of being putting out good energy and I think that it's you I got picked on for it earlier I mean it's so different people aren't and I was like a nice kid I think it's just about being nice putting out positive energy you're a nice kid and nice kids can be you know picked on so I think that's where some of my stand up comes from I don't want to be picked on anymore and then I know that positive energy works but I haven't been able to turn it into like being positive doesn't mean like you're happy I just know that energy matters and when I did warm up yes I had to be in a good mood I couldn't bring negative energy into the studio always had to bring positive energy but that doesn't mean that necessarily positive about everything but yeah when you're pitching you have to be confident you know there's nothing like throwing a curveball just strike a guy out or take a fastball and blow him away and you know and I remember also hitting there was like hitting the ball and so those moments I get more I mean baseball is in my heart I do comedy because people think I'm funny I got into I mean I got pushed into comedy I got pushed into stand up through comedy trafficking school you like that Joe? I think it's true though I think you weren't you the improv weren't you involved with the school there? no I was in I mean I've done like I've done gigs there but I didn't do comedy trafficking school I did uh that's funny come see I can write jokes David but definitely let me let me push you here let me push I want to stay on this Jeff Garland we'll stay on Jeff Garland yes early on in our friendship he said to me there are two gifts from God the Andy Griffith show he said you cannot be a happy man unless you understand the complexities of the Andy Griffith show and then he said the real gift from God is baseball are you going through where are you what does that sound uh that's Burbank I'm under the flight path oh good let's see is that southwest they're either going to Vegas yep it's southwest he's taking off yeah they'll wrap around that's going to Vegas Jeff Garland said that baseball is a gift from God does positive energy lend itself to other sports could you be positive in boxing can you can you be positive in football or is this positive energy solely the domain of baseball when it comes to sports I think I think definitely baseball is being positive yes it's a daily grind it's you're around these guys all the time you're playing football it's 16 games who cares about being positive just hey baseball so individual everything is you know you're failing all the time basketball no let's go back to the pot stay with the positive okay stay with the positive energy I stay with the positive with the positive can you first of all are you a fan of other sports besides baseball yeah I like basketball I like football a little bit I would assume basketball and baseball are similar you need positive energy with with basketball as well yeah I mean you're basketball you're visualizing you're in the zone but you're also visualizing making the free throw making the jump shot blocking you know you can visualize that that's not necessarily positive energy I feel in life positive energy matters when you're playing the game right in the middle of it I don't know if like being positive matters I think being confident visualizing I think um even getting a little angry I don't know if being I don't know if that's I mean that's some people say that's not positive but if you get angry and that makes you throw the ball like strike a guy out you can do that I can't do comedy angry I could play baseball angry you know I can pitch I would take it even though I would I take the audiences personally when a guy's digging in on me you know and he wants to hit a home run or make me look bad I'll strike him out I would get that's why I struck out if you look at my stats even at Arizona State I struck out 28 batters and 23 innings I always struck out guys I wasn't the greatest pitcher ever but I definitely was able to sniff the strike out and get it and how does that feel and great better than better than getting a laugh oh I was just going to ask you that at the end of you know driving home from a comedy show when you kill you're sated that that's one thing about stand-up comedy is when a comedian knows when he came close to killing and they go home and they feel good and satisfied yeah satisfied so the you can finish a baseball game as a pitcher and be satisfied uh yeah I gotta take a leak here David let's pause you want to pause I'm going behind a bush they're gonna okay should I keep brawling for my listeners sure okay okay I gotta take a leak all right we're talking to Brodie Stevens he is taking a leak on a wall he's taking a leak on a wall both hands behind the bushes left hand right hand what do you hold I urinate with my right hand okay under or over are you choking up on it I hold it like a drumstick oh you choke up on it you know what I do I put some donuts on mine before I pee to make it much heavier so that when I actually have to pee I take the donut off I'm still peeing by the way good you have a nice flow wrong it is I'm still going David still go now it's on my ankles switching on my ankles a couple shakes and I'm back I've emerged from the bushes and I'm back greatest moment ever on my podcast this is a first Brodie I feel so much better well we gotta wrap it up thanks for being on hahahaha oh the last yeah the last 5 to 8 minutes I had to go I had to go take a leak you could tell I was getting scatterbrained that's what people should say why are you scattered brain what's bothering you I gotta take a leak oh I thought you were you were just jittery back to baseball you're pitching an ASU that's some serious baseball yeah how many people I guess it was how many people in the stands how many people in the stands when I played on the team anywhere from 1500 for like a non-league early season game to 3 to 5,000 for an average pack 10 game and then over like then like 5 to 8,000 for big games ok now you had not done stand up comedy yet no you're pitching yes audiences watching your every move yes are you paying attention to the crowd not really to be honest with you now I didn't get to pitch too many times in front of huge crowds like that I would pitch in you know 1,000 people a couple times more than that no I mean you can hear them but I'm not zoning in on one person saying something I'm trying to do the best job of pitching but I think with anything it takes me a little while to get comfortable and I didn't have that kind of leash in college so feel like you got to get used to that stuff it takes a little while to get used to it and I was just scratching and I had to scratch and claw all the time for baseball just to be on the team whereas comedy kind of comes easy it's kind of a natural thing the only thing you know for now I was a good competitor I want to say I want to say I want my questions answered yes sir yes sir what was the question first of all I love you and thank you for doing this and so you're, you haven't done stand up but you're funny right I think I'm funny people tell me I'm funny yes you're on the mound your ears are not tilting towards the audience in any way it's not even an audience right it's just the times I pitched in front of a crowd over a thousand people or 1500 people no baseball wise or even comedy wise no I could do that it's not factored in a larger crowd maybe I would feel the difference so when I watch a major league pitcher he's not paying attention to the audience he doesn't he might at first they talk about spring training is okay everyone's good here then when you go to the major league games the stadiums are bigger there's extra you know you got three decks of stands four decks and some guys that kind of could freak them out they all talk about spring training oh he's doing great let's see how they play when they've got three decks in there so that is a real hurdle for guys to get over and there's some guys I feel I'd be in that boat who you bring them up and maybe they're not ready for it they're kind of the limelight gets to them all eyes on them they go back down it's just something we're getting comfortable it's like stand up yeah yeah yeah so it is like the club comic who gets the tonight show same you're getting your reps and it's reps and if you're not throat but in major leagues you have minor leagues so you can go in and get your reps and I feel like with stand up they say it's you know take seven eight years to find your voice and you gotta get those ten thousand hours in with anything to be an expert but if you're in college a competitive team and you're not getting those opportunities as much you know I felt like I said a short leash but I learned so much about life and in baseball through my playing my baseball statistically speaking in baseball is there such a thing as the home field advantage I think the guys look at me where I took the leak maybe that's a neighbor maybe that's his territory maybe he pees there and now you're gonna have to fight him for that territory this is this is very this is gonna be good can you take them he's an older guy but he had a power tool with him and by the sound of your urination you have a power tool as well my friend hello yeah I don't know why or all this was coming I don't know where all the the P was coming from well you were at starbucks yeah but this is too too much of an early morning urination it could have been from yeah I went to Dunkin Donuts yesterday maybe I was still in my system but it felt great you know there's nothing like can I tell you something this five times throughout the night let me tell you something my friend and I know I speak for my entire male audience when you were done ping we all shared a communal tingle we all just had this little shiver together when you were done that's how that's how great that that P was yeah it was a good one so statistically speaking is there a home field advantage can they prove numerically statistically that teams win when they're playing in front of their home team home crowd I think so and that's about there there's a result of positive energy but there's yes they do play better in front of a home crowd is that because of the positive energy from I'm gonna say the audience or is it because every baseball stadium is different and they understand the nooks and crannies of their home stadium there's I think there's a little bit of that yes the nooks and crannies of familiarity the routine but I also feel like yeah you know sharing on support does matter you know fans matter there's people you know anti sports types who don't think that matters I do you think fans matter you think having supportive fans matter yes okay I was in Chicago the night the Cubs won the World Series it was insanity it was insanity I've never seen anything like that in my life and I remember thinking if fans matter then why haven't the Cubs won every year because nobody loves the Cubs I think Cubs fans are the most loving maybe too forgiving maybe that's what it is maybe they for okay no when I say fans matter I'm not saying like necessarily in a good way they can pick up on nervous energy you could look at the Boston Red Sox maybe how when they won for the first time back in 2004 but I'll talk about the Cubs since I'm close to that situation since the friend I grew up with is a coach with the Cubs but answer my question answer my question here's my question here's my question I'll answer it here's my question because I because I am not knowledgeable about this stuff would you say after listening to you I'm beginning to when you say fans matter I have scolded looked at people with scorn when they said we did it we did and I go you didn't do anything you drank a beer but did they do it can a fan lay claim to a World Series victory talking to you I'm beginning to understand that maybe they can maybe they can love a team so much and support it so much and put out so much positive energy and support that it puts the team over the finish line is that what you're saying I am saying yes I'm saying yes but I'm also saying that is not the end all be all but I will say fans do help I can explain the specific Chicago Cubs since I'm close to it yes the Cubs and I witnessed it the Cub fans are very nice they're friendly they're Midwest friendly and they I was at the World Series I went to one of the games now here's the other thing I was with the Yankees I was around the Yankees for 12 years I was around Yankee Stadium I was around Yankee fans I was around Northeast Baseball it's intense it's real it's life or death and look at the Yankees 27 World Championships when my good friend was one of the coaches there 4 World Series rings so I saw the result of passion, smarts and beliefs and you know what it's New York it's like if you can't make it here but isn't that negative energy Billy Martin Reggie Jackson they were winning but they were winning with negative energy they did yes they did win with negative and that was the time maybe that time in Baseball negative energy that was before all the mental stuff started coming to play but you make a good point David you make a good point negative energy but look what happened in New York it was in shambles after that the Bronx is burning the Bronx is burning they used the energy of the city they did and they squeezed everything out of it and then after that Times Square the 80s in New York it was a dangerous time from what I gathered I don't know they've done stories on how the Yankees in that time that was the summer of Sam 77 I want to get back to the Cubs and I'm interrupting you about something I know nothing about you're saying positive energy I'm saying positive energy my positive energy let me ask you a question I'm going to have the chef Jeremiah Tower on the show next week you and I have no idea who he is but he created the modern food movement Shea Panisse and the genius of Jeremiah Tower is to use local food he says if you live in West Virginia you use the local ingredients because West Virginia has a smell and a taste to feed people the smells and the taste of West Virginia so you have to use the grass fed cows and the spices because that's West Virginia you'd be foolish to try to create French cuisine in West Virginia create West Virginia cuisine use that energy and when you bring up the Yankees using negative energy is it does a team win did Chicago win do you win the World Series because you're using the home grown energy does a team win not just with positive energy but by reflecting and living off thriving off the energy of that town because we just said in 77 the Bronx was burning New York was falling apart did Billy Martin Jackson did George Steinbrenner succeed by tapping into the horror show of New York City I would say yes definitely and again that might have been the end of that time we're coming into the 80s and I think the 80s started being more health conscious jogging playing sunshine and MTV negative the world is so negative now that you have to be positive that's the way I look at it go back to Chicago I'm going to explain to Chicago Chicago's positive energy they're nice people being nice doesn't win baseball games bringing energy guarantee wins bringing energy is great um but you have to have baseball you have to have smart baseball minds so the manager of the Cubs is a positive energy guy he's positive energy towards his players he's a manager he manages people Joe Madden the manager of the Cubs he comes from Arizona that area and he knows all about this positive energy so then you have coaches now the coaches they don't have to tap into positive energy they tap into mechanics they tap into researching strategy they tap into doing the computer work all that stuff yeah it helps if you're positive that's what the manager does but it's nice to have a pitching coach or maybe another coach on the staff who is that positive you know they have a good cop bad cop relationship now with the Cubs I went to the world series one of the games the Cubs it was like game 4 the Cubs were leading in the first inning they had a home run everyone's going nuts the second inning the Cleveland Indians they tied it and then they took the lead the whole stadium went quiet it's like they panicked the energy left nervous energy not even energy kind of nervous energy but just nerves took over the stadium now because Joe Madden is a positive energy guy he protects his team from that nervous Nellie energy then you've got coaches who have a blue collar work ethic they don't give an F about the fans I mean they like them don't get me wrong they like the fans but their main job if you're a great coach and that's where my friend comes into play he was a winner it dates back to Joe Tory it dates back to Little League winning he's a winning guy and then when you apply that with a positive energy guy and then you take a blue collar raised in the 80s valley guy that's what it took to get the Cubs over the top I'm telling you I was there and they won in spite of the nervous energy that the Cubs fans were bringing I witnessed it hmm so the Cubs are positive amongst themselves and that comes from the coach the manager then you've got the guys who are actually you know right there you know the general manager doesn't have to be positive he's there to do his job and put the best coaches in the position to win the manager he's the positive energy guy he's touching the players every day he's around them so he's positive but you gotta have some guys who are just no baseball old school and they don't give an F about fan experience and that's what it takes to be a winner still have fun but it's about winning if you win your life is better everybody's happier it creates memories I saw it you saw what happened in Chicago winning created all those memories for people so when people say sports are bad or it's not about winning, winning did matter because look what it did to those families in Chicago and it took a blue collar guy from the valley who was my teammate in Little League to get the Cubs championship his work ethic my positive energy brought Chicago to the Cubs my last question about baseball and then we'll wrap it up we're having Jeremiah I know I was stretching by the way but go ahead I was stretching physically stretching physically I'm on the curb right now and doing calf raises but I truly believe when you talk honestly I'm not saying I I hung out with the Cubs I was in the parade I was around them they need an energy guy they have psychologists they have mental skills coach it's a real thing wow I go to a baseball I go to a baseball game and I'm relaxed it's joyous I beat myself up for not going to more baseball games and I say what's wrong with me why can't I relax yada yada yada you go to a baseball game now last week I saw this documentary The Last Magnificent it's about Jeremiah Tower we're going to have him on the show he revolutionized American cuisine I hung on every frame what's up got recognized or something yeah officer that's the guy who pissed on my wall I don't know I think they said the guy from the hangover I don't know okay so I hung on every frame of that movie and if somebody was talking if somebody interrupted me shut the f up I'm watching this I'm hanging on every millisecond of this documentary you go to the World Series Brodie Stevens goes to the World Series in Chicago are you hanging on every second of that game I'm you know I should be I should be but yeah of course I want the Cubs to win I feel like what I'm saying is what I'm saying is is there so much to watch because you know so much about the game that your mind is just isolating moments and players and anticipation and strategy is that what's going on when you sit in the stands and watch a baseball game you're looking at it far differently than I am right is it possible that you don't want anybody talking to you that you can be totally immersed in a game without your mind ever wandering you know how gamblers people gamble because they're totally in the moment it's a terrific thing when you go to a baseball game can you be completely focused on the game well my yes and no I like the culture of baseball I don't like I mean to sit in this I like baseball food I like I like being around foul balls I like sometimes the game operations they're fun strategy that sort of thing it was never my I'm not into strategy I like the culture of baseball I like being around it I don't love sitting in the stands and I like the pregame I like being around that I mean I'll watch a game on it it's always background information it's background noise hang on for one second I could have said I could have answered that that's alright I'm rude I'm not being rude I'm just curious if you get me to play blackjack there is nothing you can tell me when I'm playing blackjack that will get my mind off the cards if I'm watching a movie that I'm into there's nothing you can say the house is on fire I don't care I want to see this movie total absolute focus if I'm doing stand up we're talking to you right now I am totally focused on Brodie Stevens right now to the exclusion of everything else in my life it's a great escape for me is baseball doing that for you is baseball complete focus on a game the way you know okay I like I like the culture of baseball the game itself the strategy I appreciate it but I'm not locked in on everything I'm more locked in yes if I'm playing the game pitching or doing comedy I can't have those distractions but sitting in a crowd going to a game I can talk I'm relaxed but I also it's kind of cool knowing that I know these guys I've known them but I've been to so many here's the other thing I've been to so many baseball games over the years you could take a year off from baseball it will always be there for me being around it's not that relaxing I'm not relaxed around baseball so it's hard for me actually to sometimes you got to take a break sometimes I want to be a fan and just buy a ticket and other times I want to go down and maybe get a ticket or get a pass but that's stressful being around baseball at the major league level is kind of stressful because you have to behave a certain way and I'm not getting paid by these guys I'm not working for the baseball team so the more you're around them and the more comfortable you are then you start saying like well I'm not getting paid I like being around it I got to that's what I've been trying to work in trying to play in comedy and baseball for me I want to get back to baseball in one second if you go to a boxing match you're hanging on every moment if say Sandy Kofax goes to a baseball game can he be completely focused on the game to the exclusion of anything else could you if you really wanted to go to a baseball game or watch a baseball game on television and block out the world because I know you can do that with boxing yes I could a playoff game yes yes I can for a playoff game or a no hitter something like that but a regular you know a game like today am I going to be locked in on every pitch no but if you were gambling on it that would be different if you're gambling on it you probably locked in luckily I don't have that gambling right but for me baseball is it's a lifestyle I like the culture not totally like I said into strategy I just like I like what baseball teaches I like that I like that there's literally I like that it's a respect tradition so I think it's I feel like I go to games it's kind of like I'm doing my part I feel like if you're you live in this country you should be mandatory to go to like two baseball games a year just so you see how how everything is you appreciate things appreciate the weather appreciate athletics appreciate the workers I don't know everything I just feel like baseball is something we should keep even though it's a little that could be when you're pitching it's not boring that's a thing you're around the action when Jeff Garland said to me baseball is a gift from God it is truly the American sport because it teaches you that we're all in this together we're competing but we're all in this together we're competing against another team you have to learn to wait your turn you'll get your turn to shine you'll also get your turn to chip in on the defense in order to protect each other we all have to assist one another but if you work hard enough you'll get your turn to shine but in the end it's the team that wins we've lost that spirit in America that's why baseball is becoming less and less popular because the morality of baseball has escaped us I agree I think baseball is kind of bouncing back I think now that the athletes there's so much these kids are better you watched them play they're fast they're faster than the game now so it's like arena baseball whereas before you'd see the players you're like your dad out there that's what the culture was now these kids are like basketball players they're cross fit guys so you're seeing young kids playing and baseball is making a real effort a real push to get you know different communities involved and I think baseball is trending up and I also just it's got a great app on the you know the app is popular but they're not they're not going after people of the baseball app but I just feel that as long you know football the injuries and then basketball you know basketball is still popular but that's a definitely got to be physical and that baseball is a one sport you could still be a small tiny guy and be successful we've been talking with Brody Stevens his new podcast is called festival of friendship I don't want to say it's new but it's you had one before right well it's the same one I just don't do it consistently enough the festival of friendship on the Farrell audio network I've done about 90 episodes so everybody should download that and you have a comedy you have a comedy special coming out on CISO later in this year right yes I do we shot a one hour special at the comedy store a late night conceptual piece showing what happens when you're the last guy at the comedy store how do you deal with that people tired people having to go pay for babysitters avoid parking tickets and I'm trying to have them listen to my latest joke my latest tweet come back here I read this funny tweet to you right and you're always at the comedy store how's Adam doing Adam he gets doing great now you want another you want you want to hear an interesting thing yeah David yes sir Adam Egett right he runs the comedy store yeah Adam Egett grew up with me Adam Egett was a camper at the Joe Tory baseball camp Adam Egett grew up his family grew up with the family of the coach of the for the Chicago Cubs Mike Borzelo so the same guy who taught me about winning as a kid in the late 70s early 80s helped raise the man today that turned the comedy store around yes that's where baseball and comedy are intertwined the guy who runs the comedy store was the same kid who I taught how to throw a baseball and now he runs the comedy store and it's all positive all positive energy all positive energy right I mean honestly a lot of it yes yeah like I'm Adam grew up in the valley people picked on the valley in the 80s valley girl karate kid so we had a sense of pride in the valley and Adam is part of that last generation that last connection to the 80s generation of the valley and look at me a one hour special David Feldman podcast I've got my own podcast turned around the comedy store so there is something to that oh my god yes I mean I'm going down in corny but something to it Adam I you know I've been living in New York for a couple years and I went back and went to the comedy store and he's running it and all of a sudden I'm going what happened to the ghosts of the dead gangsters when this place was Syros Adam purified it right yeah Adam's energy Adam's late 80s San Fernando Valley blue collar work ethic energy turned the comedy store around I've been there since 2000 I wrote it out I was luckily I was able to stay away from the darkness but I kept bringing my positive energy in and then the comedians started even the door guys just the culture comedy store and it was a great place to be if you want to learn more about Adam read Norm McDonald's book and go watch the Norm McDonald podcast on YouTube and Adam is his sidekick and he's hysterical Brody Stevens Brody Stevens I love you I really would love you to come back and teach me about baseball I want to be a better human being and I want to learn how to have a baseball game going on all the time in the background I remember Groucho Marx before he died waxing poetic about Vince Scully I remember he said there are very few women in my life who I love there are very few people I can trust I guess what I worry about is Vince Scully he said without Vince Scully this is what Groucho said if I were to lose Vince Scully my life would be over and I've always felt as a comedian and as a human being there's something lacking in me for not being able to appreciate baseball on a much deeper level and I thank you for taking time to explain baseball to me and I love you to come back thank you are you getting emotional David? No but this was a great episode this is exactly the way I wanted it to go I wanted to talk to you about baseball and I got exactly what I wanted from you so I thank you awesome yeah I had a good time it was longer than three minutes and that's okay and you made history you made history nobody has ever urinated on my show yeah I've made people throw up yeah I've made people sick to their stomach but I've never we've never had somebody urinate on the show that's pretty good it was real what are you gonna do today sir what are your plans? I have therapy at five o'clock above the hamburger, hamlet and van eyes um what else I'm calling in my avails to the comedy store that's on my to-do list uh huh I already showered um I was in Arizona over the weekend so it's my first day back but probably do some, we're still editing some things I'll do some push ups apple cider vinegar um I'm feeling good I feel, I go ahead and you're gonna be in Iowa for the comedy festival and then there's a big festival coming up then exactly, there's a new festival it's in Iowa it's on Memorial Day I believe so later on this month I need to get my plane tickets I need to get that settled and then maybe another festival I love festivals, the summer I love doing comedy outdoors, I really do daytime outdoors that goes against everything I believe in shorts how can you do comedy outside in the sun, that doesn't make any sense I know it doesn't but I was able to do it and you, if you were on the show you would have a good time and you would get laughs also, not that you don't but I could get you having a great time outdoors in shorts in the middle of the summer getting laughs positive energy I have to say being in Iowa on Memorial Day that to me is as American as it gets yeah, and guess what the field of dreams field in the corn is near where this festival is so I'm going to go check out the field of dreams when you say from the movie but that's not a true story that's from the movie, right? right, it's a movie but it's there the field of dreams is there and I actually did on my TV show enjoy it on Comedy Central I did a whole thing based off field of dreams where I was in Fenway Park in Boston and that's where I was taping my half hour special it was a symbolic transfer I was putting down my baseball glove and picking up the microphone and that happened I did that at Fenway Park and I sat in the stands and I kind of recreated that scene from field of dreams I'm going to end on a negative note a confession this is a religious you're going to be my father confessor, my umpire manager I have to change as a human being I saw a field of dreams I'm so ashamed there are there are I'm so ashamed to tell you this I saw a field of dreams in San Francisco and there was a morbidly obese woman sitting behind me weeping throughout the movie and I was infuriated because I was with my friend and I was going she has no right to be weeping she's morbidly obese what does she know about sports running and hitting what sense why is she crying is it because it's a corn field and she it was corn was cut down to make way for a baseball field is that why she's crying for the lost corn syrup that she's not ingesting and she's just weeping throughout the entire movie and finally I I complained to the usher I went there were ushers back then and I said there's a woman weeping and you have to tell her to shut up because she's fat and she's eating popcorn popcorn and she cares more about the corn fields than she does baseball she has no right to be here that's not true I didn't really say that to the usher but I wanted to yeah I switched seats the truth is I was with a friend and I felt that she was crying about the corn fields and not this beautiful moment between a father and the son and I switched seats and the movie was ruined for me and whenever it comes on and I try to re-watch it I think of this morbidly obese woman crying and I get angry again because crying is just as bad as talking during a movie would it help you to know that maybe she was wheezing thank you thank you Brodie Stevens you got it David thank you the Saturday April 29th at 7.30 I am doing a live taping of this show at QED in Astoria tickets are only $8 I will let you know the lineup for Saturday's taping April 29th I will let you know on Friday's show we're booking it as I speak it's going to be incredible I promise this Saturday April 29th at QED in Astoria Queens for more information go to QEDastoria.com or friend me on Facebook and Twitter and we'll keep you posted on this fun event April 29th at QED tickets are only $8 come out say hello I'm actually going to shake hands with everybody who comes out to QED Saturday night April 29th show starts at 7.30 we'll tell you more about it later on the week now comedians Steven Perle one of the original gangsters I'm not going to say gangsta one of the original gangsters of the San Francisco comedy scene somewhere in storage in Los Angeles is a couch and on that couch is a framed calendar from October of 1982 from the Holy City Zoo and it has always been prominently displayed on my desk until I got thrown out of my house and had to move to New York but on that calendar it says Steven Perle presents so Wednesday night in October of 1982 and it was my first paid gig as a stand up comedian Rebecca Irwin was running the zoo and she gave me a Wednesday night Steven Perle presents I was on the bill with Kurt Weldon and I have looked at that calendar until I had to put it into storage Steven Perle when I was starting out you're going to have to take this like a man Steve before you get to talk like a mens when I moved to San Francisco to do comedy in 1982 Steven Perle and Jeremy Kramer and Robin Williams Steven Perle, Jeremy Kramer and Robin Williams you made a decision when you were starting out you realized you were never going to be as funny as these three guys should I keep doing it I'm never going to be as funny as Jeremy Kramer, Steven Perle and Robin Williams so what do I do you move to LA and you make it there they've done it to a lot of other people why can't they do it to me but before LA now we have to go there first let's see they meet millionaires out of mediocre people there that's the golden land I'll go to LA I said I came from the high school I'll let you continue I'll let you continue I know but you're right I mean it was one of these things where I thought well what else can I do I'm miserable, I'm desperate this is the only thing where can I go to be more miserable but make millions I'm talking about San Francisco where you didn't get on stage unless you were respected by the high priests of comedy and I knew though I knew I was never going to be as funny as you guys and most of us decided to keep doing it but we had to put up with our own mediocrity well I just think I felt when I started I came out here I like maybe 5 minutes and I don't know what I was doing I watched guys like Robin and Bob Sawat and then Will Durst came out here at the same time and I saw him do 40 minutes and I go whoa this guy's got 40 minutes so you know you just gotta go through that sucky period before you get to that good period if you get to it alright so I've never really talked to you about this stuff because because I didn't like you I know you didn't, why would you you know how I feel about you people always changing money and lending brace the tape thank you another Nixon reference it's been a while and don't forget Franklin Graham's father that's right Franklin Graham Billy Graham's son and Billy had some choice words for the chosen people you know how those knows one time Mr. Pratt I know after Hill with Henry every day blah blah blah nag nag nag make peace in Vietnam I want to leave my bloody mark there'll be some idiot with a comb over will be worse than me but in the meantime I want that time this is gonna be interesting because we're not in the same room this is gonna be interesting because I feel like I can ask you some questions there's a 3,000 mile barrier between us and I feel that's fucking Wyoming it's fault you know who controls it I feel like I can talk to you safely and ask you questions because we're not in the same room there is I would know there's some virtue to not having to make eye contact with you I'll give you that Johnny Paycheck Charles Manson Gleam that has repelled so many no I think I feel very confident I was nervous about this because I have so much respect for you and I am I have to compliment you you're gonna have to take it like a man remember something about Ted Coppel speaking of hair I remind a lot of people of Ted Coppel a nightline if you were gonna guest on nightline he didn't want you in the studio with him so there would be people who'd come to his offices in New York and he would put them in another studio he didn't want them in the same room with him because he felt it was too intimate so I'm feeling good about this I'm feeling I can ask you some questions that I've been wondering about for I don't know 30 some odd years okay sure and if you were in studio with me I don't think I'd be able to ask these questions so first of all I'd be grabbing you by the collar and hitting you over the head with a blunt opaque object till I got the truth here's the God's honest truth so I was drinking and smoking dope when I first started doing stand up at the Holy City Zoo and I saw lightning bolts from God and I've mentioned this many times on the show I saw lightning bolts from God when you were on stage I could not believe what was coming out of your mouth and granted I was drunk and stoned I have something to do with it maybe that sugar cube that our friend Rainbow put in your copy that night but I was an impressionable young man who was not jaded by comedy so I was saying I was a regular audience member I was an audience member I was trying to do stand up but I saw you the way anybody else saw you who wasn't a comedian and I thought well there are I swear to God I've said this on the show and Larry and I Larry Brown and I have talked about it I always believe your comedy you were a conduit from a higher power I believe that I think the same thing with Robin and Jeremy you with you you could hear the crack of the thunder oh here's another dick joke for you mighty Odin oh yes Zeus loves a good dick joke holding a smelly little wooden club that smells like urine I came here with the mighty Zeus from the stage of the Holy City I don't know I was good at what I did I've always thought I'm still having fun well let me do it I'm just an old man alright yeah too modest man okay so you grew up in New York City did you more along island but around the city I was in the city many 20 times these are questions that I've always wanted to ask you and try to answer them I think the Rosenbergs were guilty hell of them why did I tell you I wish I could try especially when that bitch Apple tried to sing all they should have cried her then oh la la la la it was dirty oh hello I saw lightning bolts coming out of Ethel's head out of the phone when they were being executed they got the chair right that's where Apple would look at the sun for a second when they pull that switch and I mean people will remember that well they burned so let me I would assume you were raised in a household like mine that petitioned to save the Rosenbergs right they did, they did I've learned about that later since they fried them before you were on earth but if they did they petitioned to save the Rosenbergs Jewish, progressive, whatever everything the world hates you were raised by lefties you were a red diaper baby because you had irritable bowel syndrome no, you were there you go, sure you were a red diaper baby and red diaper baby, Dr. Spock baby yeah, one of them left wing commie hippie beatnik babies there is this phenomenon of Trotskyites raising conservatives there are guys like Norman Podoritz and Bill Crystal these horrible Hamunculi who got us into the war in Iraq they're Jewish intellectuals whose parents were Trotskyites and they rejected everything their parents stood for although in the case of Podoritz and Bill Crystal their parents became Reagan Democrats where you did something happen where your parents were so left wing so touchy so touchy feely that you made them laugh by defending Nixon, by defending is that how you got to them at dinner? oh god, first I never made them laugh my family was a train wreck I had to get 3,000 miles away from like pursue my comedy dream which was so long ago I don't even remember what the dream is you never made your mother laugh nah, once in a while once in a while by saying horrible things hello? yeah, did you make her laugh by saying horrible things? no, she didn't have much of a sense of humor, she thought she did but she didn't what do you mean she thinks? nah, the parents I tried to get away from them and you came out to San Francisco uh huh and the first club you played was the holy city zoo? actually I did comedy in New York I started in May May of this year will be 40 years I did stand up for the very first time I did it in New York a few times and I really enjoyed it even though I kill a few times and I go down the total tubes a few times but I knew I could do well because I had but I wanted to live in San Francisco in the summer of 1976 and I was 20 and I fell in love with the place and I wanted to live there I wanted to get the hell out of New York I couldn't stay in New York anymore so 3 years later in 79 I came out here and I got a San Francisco paper in New York before I came out here because there was no internet then young kid there was no WSW look at me and showing my anus off to get attention because I was breastfed by my favorite aunt she won't call the Holy City Zoo so I went there when I just watched when I came out here there was a little bitty urine smelly place it was packed and everyone who was going on was killing except for one guy a guy called the Berserk started pricing everything in the club the wall floor that was the good old Berserk clerk he had troubles what would his religion be if he was pricing everything at the Holy City Zoo he would be one of that chosen tribe well yeah that's what Mayor Bannon will take care of you people on the day of the Great Rope Cup thank you to the comedy of Shacky Metzger Shacky Metzger, come on out here he's got hot, hot, hot, hot I got 6 million of them hot, hot, hot, hot by the way Kurt Metzger is a great comedian he's been on this show I brought up the name Metzger nobody remembers Metzger I brought up the name Metzger I always thought of the Nazi Metzger oh no, that's Tom Metzger the white supremacy guy yeah so you came at you saw the Holy City Zoo I went there and then I went on like the next week or something Tony DePaul's writing I met people in my picture and Al Cleatham I think the first night I was there and that was when Mike went on I would tell a joke and drink a picture of beer and tell another joke and drink a drink and um I was a comedy junkie before you know it Dana was going, Dana Gould not Dana Gould, Dana Carvey was going up then and right yeah I saw him, I saw him he was starting to make the transition to crazy people and I was one of them I was proud of him and I remember coming at being very jealous not jealous but envious that I wasn't there at the beginning of the Holy City Zoo when it went from a folk club to a comedy club when it made a change yeah that was before my time that was around 76, 77 something like that Jason Cristobal remember him, the candle maker of course I remember it's a Bastion Cabin of the Zoo the big bearded man once was a simple man who owned a simple club Big Bad Jason Big Bad Jason, Big Beard he was almost a magical creature he made candles and had a big laugh smoked a lot of and he said welcome, welcome you're home you're home and Rebecca was running the place and I was so damaged and so broken and the Holy City Zoo was just this inviting loving place places weren't always easy they weren't always easy well for you maybe well you did no no but you did and the other thing I learned from the Holy City Zoo was how to work the entire room there were like it was a great training ground, it was an incredible training ground there were like 12 pockets that you had to play to you could never get the entire you could never get the entire balcony at the back corner, at the other corner at the front, there was a little place but it was long and so you know it was almost impossible to get the entire room going, right? because there were so many different, well that's yeah, so sweet for yourself Chubby hahaha you're living, you're back, you went down to LA, you hung out with Kenison yeah, oh god I was the one weak one so Sam, can I blink? I haven't blinked since I can't imagine and those walls could talk, they'd sweat and check into rehab did you do do you mind if I ask you a question, did you do cocaine? I've done it, I was there you know and I did why would you have to do I can imagine you doing pot, I know you liked pot, oh I love marijuana yes, but promise me now yeah but I can't imagine you doing cocaine, what would the point be? it was kind of redundant isn't it, yeah it was actually I wouldn't do it in public that much, I'd take some home and just do it for a day or two and just try to mount everything there and you came back go ahead now you go ahead go ahead, come on up smash this fucking lamp over your head you go ahead, fucking cunt oh my god I came so long I feel like Steve McQueen at the end of Poppy and this is all you bastards you're trying to kill me you move back to the Bay Area the Bay Area, is it as inviting to comedy as it used to be, the impression on it oh god no, oh god no, we had we had Alex Bennett back then and the Times were just right it's like waiting for this, doing it and there's some fun people but no, it's nothing like it was and there's places to go on, but I just didn't take LA anymore and coincidentally reconnected with an old girl and I just wanted to get out of LA in the worst way and everything worked out and I'm up here so I can go on when I have to, but I'm much happier up here you're the big red bridge yeah, you can be happy in the Bay Area but I found that it turned its back on comedy it's become more of a road stop now, right? it's been that way for quite a while actually so it is a lot of LA, it's just a road stop now, you know, who's looking for comedians to make it, they're looking at reality stars and stuff, they'll choose like one or two comics usually some mid-level act and they give them a big break and that's it, but you get on the things to do list I don't know, I just don't, well maybe for writers and stuff, I don't see any stars being made well, here's the thing with San Francisco is I have family there so whenever I go back I'm visiting family and not really exploring the comedy scene I look at Los Angeles and New York there's a thriving comedy scene even the non-flagship comedy clubs there are little rooms that the kids start and they're supportive of one another I would assume the same goes for San Francisco, there are little rooms that are popping up there are lots of little rooms, I go on Facebook and say, you know, so and so comedian, I'll be playing here, so and so room on Nixie Street, there's rooms you go on seven nights a week if you want it's just, right now I don't follow it myself, I really, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about because I'm just, you know, I'm one of the old guys now, so I go on now and I mean Bob's sitting in wheelchairs going, what do you say we show him what it's all about, old man that's a good idea hey, we still have our hair it's a fucking miracle, isn't it Bob you have more than you did but, you know, there's room out there but it's not like, you know, on the old day, my god, I was a star on the radio local stars, so it's nothing like that, you know, so everybody can get on the air now, so you know, it's not, it's it's probably more powerful in New York and LA I'm just obviously following because there's like two generations behind me and I just rather stay home and smoke a bone and this you were at one time you were enormous in San Francisco did you like that did you like being as popular and famous as you? Yeah, sure it wasn't like Robin where you go I didn't mob wherever you go, you know, but I get recognized and stuff but it was, you know, a much smaller scale and it was, I guess and I was making a really good living at it and just you know, it was cheap as hell to live in the city then so yeah, I was digging it man, it was, you know what could be wrong with this and where did you think it was going to go because when I was starting out and I assumed the same goes for you we didn't think of an end game, we just thought of trying to be funny exactly, exactly wanted to be as funny as possible and uh, you know, see we get out funny the next guy, so uh I was, or I get some as possible that I saw at 87 the scene was starting to die off here and Kenison, Sam Kenison got me into the comedy store, he forced me to watch me and had a great set and I got it, it's just another club now where there's people going on and then things are happening there a little bit but it's not like it was at all back in the place where we counted, you could be seen and find it for a first few years and uh, and then it just kind of filled by the wayside and soured up and I didn't want to be here anymore yeah, the idea of getting a movie or a TV show seemed depressing and I could remember dividing the comics in San Francisco up into those who wanted something else and those who had to do stand-up I was one of those guys, I know you don't believe this because I ended up becoming a writer mostly but I was one of those guys who had to do stand-up even though I wasn't good at it you know, I had to do it yeah, I have to do it, it's part of the exercise you know, and there were 12 straight years where every night if I wasn't in a comedy club I was falling behind it was 12 years of that non-stop in San Francisco 12 years, night after night searching for that audience and trying to get that laugh that never came and then there were the guys I still aim for it, huh? and then there were the guys who were just passing through the guys who were using it for other means yeah, hi, my name's Biff Scott and I'm just doing this so I can get a job on one of those TV shows like Bracken's World Bracken's World, hang on for one second they're remaking Bracken's World and I'm up for the part of Biff Lifestyle Bracken's World I was just thinking about that show I had dinner well, you know what I'm gonna name-drop I had dinner with Nathan Lane about a year ago and I made a reference to Bracken's World and I said to him do you remember Bracken's World and there's this like 10 hour pause with him staring at me he said I was a gay man in the 60's in the closet of course I know what Bracken's World is Bracken's World featuring the late great immortal never to be forgotten forever and a- oh my god, well how do you- blonde hair, he was in patent yeah, yeah, that's right he was a handsome pretty boy from Hollywood who ended up selling Union State really? yeah, I didn't see his sign, his son was- yeah, why am I talking to each other now I see Dennis Cole, I want to talk to each other you, you Dennis Cole he was blonde, good looking he was one of the stars of Bracken's World Bracken's World also they brought in Leslie Leslie Nielsen came in at the at the end as a serious actor and he was Bracken it was kind of like Charlie's Angels you never saw Charlie and you never saw Bracken until the until the ratings started to decline and it was a studio, Bracken's World took place it was when the it was when the studio system had died out so NBC put a show on that perpetuated the myth that there was a studio system that took young actors and actresses and trained them in dancing and sword fighting and groomed them but that period had long passed but that was the premise of Bracken's World following young aspiring actors on this fictitious lot it was great there's a little of it on YouTube but they've never put out a DVD of it this is the part of the interview where everyone's going to speed ahead on oh, you're back to Bracken's World what about talking about Bracken's fucking dating fast forward this, see who else is on put the bubbles interview on again they didn't talk about Bracken's World they talked about Pussy talked about places where you can help a hoker's body what about Bracken's World what about the bubbles interview best piece of ass you ever got and later pretty boy Hollywood TV and fine citizen do you still have the largest collection of men's muscle magazines in San Francisco well, I never get rid of things that are near to my heart my god you've got this, you've got to see this oh my lord that man doesn't need to have to when you moved to L.A. our biggest concern was you and your men's muscle magazines they had to go into storage we all had to have haven't seen them since you borrowed them from me you said you'd have them back in a week and then then you said this pain is all stuck together I don't want to back, you keep them and you have to work it off in my barn I made it come on calm down, we'll find your bottle of scotch with your bad you ever get the feeling dark days in L.A. that shit crazy and I want to watch I want to be here when it blows into pieces how badly do you hate Trump? I don't hate him, I'm just more so I'm then controlled it took me like three years to get used to so I'm just going to do this really okay, well I'll wake up tomorrow and he won't be president that'll be it, but he still is so I don't hate, I just know what I can say where do you get your news from? super Brevard baby it makes Brevard look like the left way this one proves that the Jews control the well actually a Jew, it's El Musbow I said it destroyed none that's right, El Nino is a Jew TV we only watch TV around here because it's just bottomed out since Letterman went off, there's nothing on so I believe it sometimes I don't so you think the audience should know the truth about Jews controlling the weather because of course, and I'm here to tell them and I'm one of them so why would I lie? I always felt that was something we weren't supposed to talk about but the Jews do that's right, that's true if you go to Klein's department store they sell weather controlling machines which is for the right people go in there, ask for slow-mo on the third floor the password is Halibah Halibah, they'll take you in the back and you can control the weather in your county this is true I'm probably going to be assassinated I'm going to start to be flag made and Cory is stuck in my ass I don't know where Brevard news do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do killed by Merb Griffin do people say too much? who is George Lincoln Rockwell? you don't know? I know, but I want my audience to know Nazi party in 1959 I thought that was Norman Rockwell I thought that was Norman Rockwell No, he painted pictures of Jewish kids stealing presents because Norman they weren't killed with each other but you said George Lincoln Rockwell was an artist, is that true? Yes, he was a very talented artist in fact, one of his paintings won a grand prize with some charity thing before he got into this craziness you should read about him I'm surprised they never made a movie about him he was a fascinating person he was sick and the thing is his father was a guy named George Lovejoy Rockwell or Doc Rockwell who is a famous Vajrion comedian he was friends and had over here's the ironic part sunshine boys with the doctor thing and that was his bit he invented the doctor bit and he had friends people like Jack Benny and the Marx Brothers and George Bird and young George said he liked these people but somewhere along the line he became a Nazi, so go figure I figure that'll do it probably because Jack Benny gave him a wooden nickel and he figured it all out and that warped the young boy's mind but that's true that's the ironic thing about it his father was friends with a lot of Jewish entertainers and he wasn't an entertainer and somewhere George got and there you go and what did he become, he became a Nazi or a KKK guy no, American Nazi they did demonstrations when Martin Luther King would have a march like everyone in Chicago in 1966 Rockwell was there to counter demonstrate a really good speaker too if he was a salesman he could have been a Nazi that was the only trick you can figure if you put that away you can have a beer with the guy but he's a Nazi one little thing yeah did he fight in World War II? yes he fought he was a fighter pilot, he was a commander so I was fighting the Nazis I realized I should have been on their side oh my god but there's a whole bunch of his speech on YouTube and they're chilling because he was really good you know I'm listening out of the way I want something why this guy's good I understand he was scared I'm glad he got whacked he might have really risen to something he's on YouTube wow I knew the name I didn't know that he was a scary man very scary man but was it performance art we're finding out that Alex Jones' performance art of course but was he doing it just for shits and giggles or did he really mean it I think he really meant it he would have so-called documentation the backup what he was saying and just listening to his speeches and they just ideology well you know his outlook was just I didn't want to get in an argument with him because he's having me convinced that maybe I should throw myself in the oven this guy's really good holy shit I didn't put me out on both for two Anton Leve he was a scary man Anton Leve yep Leve did you ever meet him did he ever come into a comedy club and who was Anton Leve I never met him at all I'm glad I was surprised I expected him to walk into one of Sam Kensen's parties that would have been a perfect backdrop for him but no I never met him and I don't think I'd want to and he was what a Satanist he was a Satanist he was also a police homicide photographer in the 1950s I once saw a videotape of some of his work and there was some gruesome shit there and he was a Jew from where I don't know where he was from I don't know much about him but he lived in San Francisco did he? I don't know I'm not an Anton Leve expert but if you kids want to go on Wikipedia and let us know it's a www.away I don't know did you know Bill Graham? I remember I used to go to the Film War East I would talk to him very briefly there I think I spoke to him more in New York than I did in San Francisco when I see him out here I remember one night he was one of the judges in the comedy competition in 1985 or something and it was I had a really good time I remember I had a really horrendous set and yet I came in the top five because I found out later he gave me a really good score so thank you Bill wherever you are wow thank you for letting me see Johnny Winter in the Almond Brothers for five dollars and Johnny Winter how much time did you get how much time did you get to spend with him and why is Johnny Winter so important? you ever hear of music? but I know well from the time I knew you you were obsessed with Johnny Winter he's amazing and then we became very good friends and we hung out a lot so even the last time we had three months before he passed away I got to open a couple of shows for him and kick pass and that wasn't very nice and that was great Stephen at all times hero of mine tell me that you enjoyed what I did that felt really good he was a good man and we had a lot of fun and a lot of laughs together so there you go you worshiped him for decades before you got to meet him no I well I would say worshiped I dug what he did I really loved what he did I used to see him all the time in concert and then we met and he saw the videotape of me so he wanted to meet me which was cool so he was a Stephen Pearl fan and I was Johnny Winter fan so it was a mutual thing and for our younger listeners what is some essential listening for Johnny Winter oh just go on YouTube look up Johnny Winter or his brother Edgar Winter or he's looking both together I'd say look at this song called Stranger Blues that's really good from Barcelona there's a good video of that kick ass slide guitar hard attack that's another good one or just write anything he did a lot of good stuff some of the best guitar playing ever good stuff now my imagination of your life is that you do exactly what you want to do you get up and you consume the information and music and culture that you want to that you're just constantly taking in culture is that a fair assessment a typical Stephen Pearl day is turn on the TV I wake up at four in the afternoon will and the rest of this cherry kiappa found in the sewer there I got any more I've been around the world a million or one times I've been to Japan like five times so I like being up here I like being with my lady and my cats and my internet and a little bowl full of greenery and the internet and have fun and just you know I'll do a show and I want to do it how do you stay so effing funny I just I don't I try not to worry about stuff it's about to be clubbing clubbing from Klutzville but it's pretty amazing how you haven't how did Robin say funny how did Jimi Hendrix play guitar like that I don't know just it's people stop being funny they get better I try not to get bitter you know I think I just look at it number one I could have been better but the show could have been a hell of a lot worse I know people who got where they wanted to go and were miserable ended up blowing their brains out and still got my help I got to get you on with Kramer let's do it have you spoken to Kramer not in a long time but I'll talk to him anytime let's do it three way darling I've been you know yeah he was doing my radio show in LA all the time all the time it was unbelievable the thing with you and Kramer is you guys have not aged a bit and the speed it's you're better now than you were when I first saw you in 82 you're better now bring them out I'll be like the 80s with our flightists how do you have the hurting joints wow Stephen Perlman no it's just I don't know I am I don't mean to embarrass you I think what I'm saying right now tells you what I what I'm thinking and feeling hey how do people get in touch with you I'm on Facebook and uh I'm not going to give you my number but uh let's say I'm on Facebook Stephen Perl of course Stephen with a V Perl like Pearl Harbor and uh there you go just find me on Facebook okay is there no website I have nothing I have nothing I got zero Zilch nada okay and uh they can call you and you can convey the message to me I'll be like a button man yeah be a button be a buffer a buffer I got a lot of fuckers here Zilch the da that was Zilch right how many times have you seen the godfather 1,652 a lot of times I've seen the first number one and number two number three doesn't really count number three is like those give us a cultural assignment tell us what we should be watching and listening to and then I'll let you go I mean uh godfather wiser just to whatever just in general what are you watching in general good comedians good musicians most of them are dead now but go back in the past you got the internet Jack Benny so good I that's another Jack Benny Jack Benny the welder but he's really good uh just just check out the best of everything whether it's from the president or the past most of it's in the past and uh listen today we're interviewing husband comedians three area codes for two he's now bitter he's at the he's at the Pat Cooper home for pissed off old guys coming up Mr. Methane Mr. Methane this is the David Feldman radio network Mr. Methane is a performing flatulist or pedamane he performs the art of controlled anal voicing employing the same technique as 19th century Frenchman Joseph Peugeot aka Le Pedamane he has performed his fart artistry at the world's top comedy festivals in Montreal Melbourne and Edinburgh as well as many public and private shows for exclusive clients we first met in the mid 90s when we did a gala at the Montreal comedy festival and I'm going to follow you please welcome coming to us from the United Kingdom Mr. Methane good evening or good morning uh David I'm not sure what time is it there so Mr. Methane you and I met at the gala in Montreal I remember Jeanine Garofalo had to go on after you do you remember that was that the big show the one with Kelsey Grammer and was it a lady called Brett Butler to be with a host yes I do excuse me for one second but Cat Goldflake was there as well wasn't he yes it was Brett Butler introducing Loose Butler right yes I do remember obviously I remember the show I don't remember who went on after me because I'm always a little bit deflated after the show if that makes sense you know I have to just go and have a quick lie down really and recuperate I don't think I don't think many people were that happy to follow you know I don't think everybody was that happy to actually follow me I think Bobcat Goldflake did a set on what because I did a few different evenings I did different I probably did the theatre about two or three times and one evening they sent Bobcat Goldflake on after me and he did a whole part of his routine and he says why do I have to go on last and he said because nobody can follow you he said I think the farting guy could follow me you know and then he got into this whole thing he said I really am sharing a dressing room with Mr. Methane what did he say me, Mr. Methane and Dick Cavett he said he said me, Mr. Methane Mr. Methane and Dick Cavett and he says there's a median of the minds you know for our international listeners Dick Cavett is a public intellectual when Johnny Carson was hosting The Tonight Show a more highbrow version of The Tonight Show was on ABC and it was hosted by Dick Cavett I remember I was on the gal with you it was you I went on early Gilbert Gottfried and then you yes Gilbert, Gilbert Gottfried yes, yes I remember Gilbert Gottfried yes, yes he was a good time you know I enjoyed the Montreal Festival it was really nice and then Jeanine Garofalo followed you and then Jonathan Winters followed Jeanine Garofalo and I remember walking up I talked about this on the show last week I walked up to Jeanine Garofalo and said to her can you believe Jonathan Winters had a follow you and she laughed really hard because she had a follow you Mr. Methane truly a fardest you can fart on command correct? yes it's a muscular flatulence it's not a dietary flatulence so I don't use fermentation you know dietary fermentation I actually expand the sphincter muscle and raise the diaphragm to draw air into the colon and then I close the sphincter and expel the air so it's sort of an anal breathing technique very much I'm doing with my bottom what Pavarotti used to do with his mouth if you like if that makes any sense to you you're actually breathing in through your anus and breathing out I am yes yes because it's physical obviously I'm I think we're not meant to give our ages away are we as entertainers I'm in my 50s now when we were together I was in my 20s and it doesn't get any easier as you get older do you find yourself out of breath? are you winded? years ago I used to just be able to walk on stage and give it everything but now I have to actually do about 10 to 15 minutes a day I have a little room with a table set up to adopt a parting position which is this like fetal position on my back if anybody is listening you just put Mr. Methane or Mr. Methane as we say over here into YouTube and you'll see you'll get to what we call a blow by blow account on YouTube all the crowd pleasing videos are there but yes it's very physical David so I have to practise now as you get older your body gets a little stiff your muscles get a little tighter it's you know the days of my youthful parting days along behind me and I'm sort of in this age now where I'm thinking that maybe I've done enough now to just actually give a talk about what I've actually done it's an unusual there's a whole circuit in a speaking where people talk about these unusual trades and professions they've had and I'm thinking a journalist recommended that I maybe just talk about the highlights and the lowlights everything really about being at the bottom end literally at the bottom end of show business and just finish off with one crowd please at the end maybe the blue danube to sort of leave them wanting more if you like you play hey jude on youtube you sing along with it oh I do yes yes yes that's the best of British compilation with a finish with a whole lot of love by Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin yes and I finish it I think with the punchline this is my hole my whole lot of and then let out a big long cough as you do you know I mean some comedians obviously because you know I appreciate how comedy works that you can craft a joke over a long long time and it can just be based on getting a big laugh for the joke and just be about inserting a pause in the right place or an emphasis or just changing it a single word and comedians work for a long long time to hone the jokes and hone the routine and then they see Mr. Meathane come on and just blast out a rendition of The Blue Danube by Strauss and everybody's laughing and they think oh well you know all the work I put into the vocabulary you know and the delivery and he just comes along and does that but it is it's very strenuous and it's difficult in the sense that if you put together a little show you're basically telling the same joke with the same punchline so you have to dress it up in different ways as you move along so you have to do things like okay you're right you've broken into a classical song do something else now so then you have to introduce that blow out candles on the birthday cake then I might do a bit of popular and then I might move on to blowing talc and actually see the coal on coffee it's like a nuclear explosion by placing talcum powder on the seat of my palms and the crowd please which you don't normally see I try and keep it off YouTube and just keep it for the Mr. Meathane let's rip DVD and that's the end of the show I fart a dart into a four foot diameter balloon attached to somebody's head you're a bit like a William Tell sort of shooting the apple off the head I lift my trousers to reveal my derriere insert the blowpipe and fire this little dart and it shoots about 7 or 8 feet and hits the balloon which is full of talcum powder and really there's nothing you can do that would ever if anybody asks you for an encore many people are you going back on an encore, an encore sorry but what can you do after you've just farted a dart into a four foot diameter balloon on somebody's head there isn't anything that you can go back on and top it with that's the end of the show really yeah so you perform all over the world is it safe to say you're more popular in Germany than you would be in a Great Britain yes it's strange no it is I completely understand why the Germans like you more it's strange that there's also a thing about English people to a British crowd I would sound like a northern English man and they'd think there's nothing particularly exceptional about him he doesn't even have a BBC accent he has a northern English accent which is like a working Manchester accent is very much a post industrial city maybe like Chicago so you'd be saying he's just a guy from Chicago whereas in America some people say that there's times when I sound like Ringo Starr who used to obviously the Beatles and then he narrated almost the Tank Engine I always used to say I was the man that put the ring into Ringo Starr but he obviously we do have similarities because Liverpool isn't, Liverpool and Manchester are only 30 miles apart so I can switch into that Merseyside Liverpool accent but in England it's not that, yeah he's just a guy from up there but where in America people hear a British accent and they go oh it sounds even better when this guy does it because he's British you know so the brand travels as well and the Germans I think do like the farting but they like it even more that there's a British guy making a fool of himself you know because it's like ah they're crazy stupid English how did they ever win the war it's one of those, it's that easy and I don't mind being the ambassador for the thing is with England he goes abroad and then it's like oh let's you know you think of the Queen and then occasionally you get the current Prime Minister you know it was Tony Blair then it was David Cameron and now it's Theresa May you know it's very statesman like or statesman woman like or Regal and I don't mind being the person who goes abroad she's the brand a little bit and indulges in the little bits of self-depreciation a bit like Mr. Bean in a sense let me ask you a couple of quick questions are you allowed to perform your fartistry on television in England are you allowed to perform it on television in Germany are there any countries in Europe that doesn't allow you to perform yes he's interested in England when he originally started the the performances I couldn't get them on prime time television but obviously I've been performing now for nearly almost 30 years and it's suddenly over the years the culture and the attitudes have changed to the extent that about seven or eight years ago I ended up on prime time Saturday night television in England in England yes with I was badgered I suppose what's the word when someone continually asks you and won't give up I eventually gave in to these people what do you mean you gave in they wanted you and you said no originally I said no I don't want to do it I don't want to do it but they continually said oh please come please come an English term is my ring you know that's what we say so what was the first time when was the first time you appeared on television in England it was late night television in 1990 a show on the independent ITV network one of the big four stations it was called the James Whale radio show although it wasn't a radio show it was a TV show were you on the BBC radio before that I was on the BBC radio a few years later suddenly I gained because times and attitudes changed originally the BBC said no and then about five or six years later a new broom swept clean the popular music channel and brought all these newer more edgier DJ presenters in who were given this sort of free reign to try new things so again I wasn't on in the prime time but I was on in the evening so Simon Cowell from Britain's Got Talent did not like you you showed up for the auditions and that was the show that I was actually the first time I was ever on prime time Saturday night television in England it took nearly 20 years but the change happened but you did not do well on Britain's Got Talent I didn't do well but I think I always feel that was part of the deal because I didn't expect to do well because I was going to I was going with something alternative slightly edgy and not really mainstream I hadn't got a nice little dancing dog and then you went to Germany but then you went I did Super Talent I actually got to the semi-finals in that one yes did people complain did people complain the man I did a few concerts afterwards with a promoter from Switzerland I was like did a few of these big shows and the man booked me because he said you made television history in Germany he said because your performance I actually farted the darts and the Germans being the Germans said I tried to do it in a very English manner and conceal my nether regions make it tasteful but the Germans went for a big close up on the sphincter muscle and the blowpipe going in because Germans are just Germans and he said for the first time on Saturday night television in Germany he said we saw a bear anus and a man putting a pea shooter into that anus he said you did make history and you crossed you helped to break the doors of censorship open really you know but where do you go the same happened in Sweden in the early 90s when commercial television came about my show apparently my appearance blew the doors open for all manner of strange things on this sort of it was like a David Letterman late night type show never before in Sweden they had anything beyond just people sat on the sofa talking very politely to people recognize you did people recognize you on the street I actually when I was flying back from Sweden the second time this was in the early 90s the air hostess said oh did you have a good show I missed the show but I read in the newspapers that you were coming before the internet you had no idea on the internet it's global now but in those days you had no idea what was going on in another country apparently all the newspapers had sort of built up the reappearance or the return of this man who shocked the nation six months early yeah and I had no idea that it had shocked the nation because you just come back to England and like I say there wasn't that internet so it stayed over it stayed over in Scandinavia with the national papers which obviously didn't really translate it cost the water to England we're talking with the performing flatulence Mr. Methane by the way a lot of my listeners are aspiring comedy writers Mr. Methane and you said air hostess oh yes and that didn't go by me or my listeners I'm going to be getting emails from them why didn't you jump in when he said air hostess because I couldn't want to interrupt you when what's going on with the air hostess am I meant to say flight attendant to this one no it was a pun are there so many puns yes no you're right sorry it's like it's quite late here so I'm sort of not on the ball so I want to get back to technique so you're saying you breathe in and breathe out do you make a sound when you breathe in do you no there's very much if you some of the videos on YouTube you'll hear me you'll see me flexing my arms against my knees and catching me breath oh oh and then you'll sometimes hear if you listen very carefully you'll hear a whoosh whoosh whoosh and that's the air going in can you whistle what kind of tones can you make I was funny enough I was watching the Montreal we were on about earlier the gala show at the montreal festival and I watched the rendition of the blue danube and I listened to it and thought my goodness that is it's a lot less structured than how I do it now or other renditions of the blue danube that you can watch on YouTube that's interesting Mr. Methane because Louis Armstrong said as I got older I played much slower much fewer notes but I played them better do you find that that's true nothing that describes me yes that describes me perfect you're hitting fewer notes but it sounds better it is because you just you know what you do is if you keep the buttocks played and just tighten the sphincter muscle then you get like a rather harsh rasp like a raspberry but then you can bring the buttocks together by moving your legs so that then the air is escaping through the sphincter and also through the buttocks so it's more like a like a gas bubbling out of a swamp and then what you can do is on the end note and you'll notice it on Britain's Got Talent it sounds like I've gone all the way and maybe caught a bear in the net and what I've actually done is I've just relaxed the sphincter on the final discharge so it sounds like I've had a terrible accident you know so do do do do and then I'll just go relax the sphincter and it will just come out like a you know I see do you have a tuning fork do you if you're being accompanied will you say we have to play in the key of A or the key of B can you play in various keys no because I think that the whole comedy lies in the fact that it is slightly off kick you know the fart always has to stand out in a sense for it to be funny that the ones that get the laugh I mean I do this thing occasionally where a sphincter little talc on the cheeks of the buttocks I can make it sound like I'm blowing a reed you know when you get a piece of grass between your two thumbs and you blow it in it I can make it sound like a mosquito or a bumblebee and I can do a quite a nice tuneful rendition it's on the mrmethane.com album I do a nice tuneful rendition of swan lake and you know there's times when the farting is so in key that it actually disappears into the music and then people can't hear it but the funny bit is when it comes comes out of the key you know it reappears and then right at the end obviously again you just sort of um so is there a key in other words there are certain instruments where they say this instrument only plays C major is there everyone says the key of F you know because obviously they get a laugh out to say and I'm playing in the key of F but what is the key when you are being accompanied what key are you playing in? yeah do you know do you know that's something because I guess I always get the musicians to I always give them one for level and then get them to worry about that I probably never I must go away next time I'm in the studio which won't be very long from now maybe another few weeks I'll actually I've got a few musicians in the family I'll just ask them Frank Sinatra found Frank Sinatra discovered that as he got older and most singers discovered this that their pitch is much lower but there's a a depth to it a resonance to it are you finding that this happened where you can't play as high but your lows have more yes I tell you why because when you're playing high to play high I have to really tighten the sphincter and tighten the abdominal muscle region because like a singer when a singer wants to get those high notes so he doesn't completely ruin his vocal chords and make them you know it's very sore you actually tighten your lower abdominal region and really you let the air out you're rationing the air that's coming through the vocal chords because you don't want too much coming through because you actually damage them and I'm doing really I am doing the same thing with the sphincter at the bottom end so I'm very very tight I'm using the same the same amount of air that I might emit from the colon in a minute on a high pitch is the same amount that I might just use for a you know a big one and because of that when you're hitting those high pitches you are very tensed up and it is very muscular and strenuous so you're not in a relaxed state and so it is more quite physical so I do avoid actually always doing this one like nowadays in a live show because I don't know if he adds that much to the show I can almost miss it out and people aren't that worried about it because they just like the songs with the big disparity and again we're going back to Louis Armstrong you know just play less notes but a variety of notes great singer you're singing from the diaphragm and the way I understand the way you're describing this you too are singing from the diaphragm I am yes and I do I understand the technique because in the past I've had singing lessons you know in the younger years so I understand about the use of the diaphragm the abdominal muscle region and rationing the air coming out on the higher notes and I'm literally doing the same with the bottom end you know Mr. Methane I just noticed you cleared your throat what happens during a show when you have to clear your other throat oh it's a difficult one because if without keeping it clean because obviously I realize people could be having people could be eating listening to this it's very difficult because you might want to clear your throat before a show but if you clear your throat too close to the show because you know obviously you've got to make room in there if you clear it too close to a show you can have problems that how can I say this you've lubricated your passageway in such a way that it doesn't open up to admit the air there's no way I could draw you a diagram but either way none of this is particularly so you have to time you have to time your everything and so it must be very it's a grueling it's a very disciplined also eating as well you can imagine you know because anybody who goes to the gym you know you don't go and have a big meal you don't go to I don't know big boys and have burger and fries and then go down to the gym and have a strenuous workout because you've got indigestion and you feel a little bloated and it's the same with this you have to eat a few hours before is it a precise schedule? is it very precise? if the show starts at 10 if you go on at 10 o'clock yes I'd want to revet by 7 so I wouldn't want to eat any earlier because with it being strenuous I don't want to go on stage feeling hungry and weak so I need the energy that the food gives me but I don't want the food to be lying in the stomach and making me feel bloated because I am actually catching my breath I'm laying on my back I'm catching my breath and I can't if I've got a stomach full of food I can't do that and as I understand it the sounds you're making are not a byproduct of fermentation so it has nothing to do it has nothing to do with the food you're eating but you don't want to full stomach because what I'm doing is very physical I don't want to stomach full of food just because I do use an awful lot I almost create the vacuum I do think but let me ask you a question Mr. Methane do you think it's misleading to call yourself Mr. Methane when in fact what's coming out of you is not methane but oxygen it is I totally agree and it all came about I just cannot shake off Mr. Methane but it is misleading it is misleading yes it does lead people up the wrong the wrong passage if that's the right if that's the right and it came about because I used to be just called when I first started I used to work on the railroads and they used to call me the incredible farting man from Buxton Shunting Yards Buxton is a little town in England there was a freight yard where they used to switch the wagons or shunting as they call it in England so I was the incredible farting man from Buxton Shunting Yards and then somebody said to me I went on a tour with a rock group called the Macklabs and they said we need a persona for you they said we want to call you Mr. Methane or you know Methane we want you to come up with a costume a superhero costume because we're going to make this character we're going to write a song about this character who can solve all the world's problems with a fart and so they wrote a whole song and I put this green costume and made this green device this green superhero costume and they wrote the song it's the Macklabs Mr. Methane the song is I do sort out all these early 1990's problems like German unity with a fart and the press got hold of this the English tabloids loved this guy in a green suit and Mr. Methane and suddenly I was stuck with Mr. Methane and you know I got a brand if you like and this brand was him and yet really I was using petomania which is obviously muscular flatulence as opposed to dietary but let me ask you a little bit does come out there is a little bit to Methane because as the air goes in it blows a little bit to dietary fermentation out with it it's a bit like one of those drinks that Tony has you know the market to drink and you find out what the marketing needs on is actually only a tiny percentage of the overall total of the contents of the bottle are there any competitors out there there was a guy called Gaseous Gary I don't know what happened to him he was a milkman apparently and he was lactose intolerant probably possibly I was I had a bout of lactose intolerance earlier this year which was quite distressing I was depleted after I had a bit of flu over the winter and with that and you know the flu at all are good bugs in my intestinal tract made me lactose intolerant which wasn't good for a week or two but there was a guy in Japan apparently but I've never actually met face to face there are a few guys on youtube doing the same technique are they as good as you well none of them in terms of stamina there is a guy I think he's called the fart master there's a few things going on here one is he covers his face so he's obviously embarrassed about doing it I mean I cover my face but it doesn't work I still get recognised and I'm not worried about a bit like Daft Punk if you go on the internet and say what do Daft Punk really look like you'll see pictures of them he doesn't worry me you'll see pictures of what Mr Methane looks like but this guy covers his face up and he does this long juicy rasping fart that lasts longer than a minute and he says I have broken Mr Methane's record but they just seem to be in doing as many farts as they can or for as long as they can and the thing is I like to you know pump a tune out and I like to have a little chat with people if they want to listen or not you know that's their business are there any are there any women who do this and then accompany themselves with a quiff yeah now I've heard about a quiffing a quiffing lady and I forget the name oh yes she used to write to me she was a lady I think she was like she had a sort of semi-soft semi-erotic porn side and she used to write to me and I'm sure she was called the queen of quiff as you would be the queen of quiff said write to me and we never got together for the duet I think she wanted to get together but there was a bit of a problem but she could do her own duet yes she could I don't think she did the back bottom though this is the trouble that she only did the front and I have actually once there's a guy in the states he's very good he does this thing where you play a tune by putting the palm of your hand under your armpit and I once did some kind of a duet ohhh on Japanese television we have in England the world's loudest belch he's called the burpa king and he holds the records the world's loudest belch he's in the Guinness Book of Records and I actually did the little duet with him on Japanese television where we did the blue danu between the two of us do you have groupies? you do is strange it appeals to the more it's not really a lady's thing or a girl's thing if I was 17 or if there's anybody out there who's 17 thinking of getting into this I would say still getting to rock music and picking guitar you know failing that it's a comedy just stand-up comedy and you know you absolutely fall back to become a farting man because if you're looking for the girls it's just not a girl's thing but when the girls do turn up you tend to find the other more interesting intellectual types because wild and slightly offbeat things appeal to you know there's a fine line between genius and madness you know and lots of people I think a lot of the girls have been attracted to me think they may be on the trail of a genius you know where really they're just talking to a lunatic how old were you when you discovered this? I was 15 and I discovered I had a sister who practiced yoga and I used to emulate her yogic positions and I was in the full lotus position and I noticed that I had this ability to breathe both you know fore and aft and then I went to the school the next day and said to the guys at the school you never guess what I can do and they said oh no you can't do that so we went to the squash courts because the acoustics were great and I gave a performance in the squash course nothing exceptional just a few long ones short ones fast ones and it became a bit of a lunch I became a pumping prodigy in the lunch hour and people had actually give a little bit of the pocket money to stand in the gallery and watch me blast a few out and it really built you know it built from there but I did actually stop him because I realised it wasn't a great thing for attracting the girls you know so for a few years I did actually that's how I came to pursue a career on the railroad you know and then I realised that just being normal wasn't for me and I thought wouldn't he be mad if you could actually you know you've got to do this now while you're young you've got to see if you can actually make a living from breaking wind like the the French gentleman Joseph Puget I'm going to ask you about Joseph Puget in a second yoga oh yes when you do yoga you're told to breathe and you feel good when you breathe I'm going to ask you one last question about this and then we'll talk about LePetamane breathing down under is that relaxing I know that when I take deep breaths I'm relaxed do you take deep breaths through that sphincter and does it relax you well do you know the thing here the thing with this is that when you're performing on a stage before you go on there's that absolute dread of you can't do a performance if you can't when you go on you need that to drenline rush I think you know what the hell am I doing here I want to run out of the fire exit I want to run down the street to run away and then they go well come on stage Mr. Methane and you walk out and all of a sudden that that adrenaline turns into an energy to perform and get through the show so you're never quite relaxed until there's that show tension that adrenaline of the show has there ever been has there ever been a time on stage when you had butterflies in your stomach and they flew out of your sphincter no no but they have caused you see this is the thing that that tension though you need it for the performance can cause your muscles to be tight I'm not really help you to relax the sphincter enough to draw the air in it's a difficult it's like and if a show you know when you're having a bad show sometimes the timing isn't going quite right and you sort of get a little bit anxious and that anxiety isn't good I mean I'm thinking here at the end of the show especially when I fart the dart into the balloon if it doesn't go first time because maybe the dart comes out and doesn't quite straighten itself up to pierce the balloon and it bounces off that's fine and then if you get it the second time people think it's part of the show but if you miss it the second time people start to go and then you get a little bit panicky and you may be because you haven't got a rear view mirror you're shaking a little bit you really want to get it you don't place the the pea shooter you can't quite see where you're placing the pea shooter as you grip it with your sphincter muslin so you're like you're a bit panicky and it just gets worse and worse and it's the biggest relief in the world when that balloon pops because you know it's the end of the show you know it always gets a big sort of resounding hooray from the audience hoorah and then there's this huge sort of like post there is that relaxation because it's the post show sort of I've done it again I've got through another show and everybody's cheering and clapping and waving and saying thank you very much I'm not able to notice whether it's the anal breathing that's relaxing if that makes sense it's obscured by the adrenaline of the performance but here at home I think when I've had me 10 minutes practice in the morning I always feel a bit refreshed a bit like somebody who's maybe had a bit of colonics and then gone out to face the world afterwards and they feel fresh inside the room isn't fresh inside and I never open the door to the postman if I've just been performing upstairs you know I always sort of pass it through the window or something before you go you would use the term about the peristaltic waves and the petamane I'm curious about the Joseph Pujo aka Le Petamane what does petamane mean before we find out who Joseph Pujo was pet it means to it's French for fart so petalman is fartman basically it's French for fartman petalman or petamane but I do think there's a slight translation I'm not sure I'm not an exact expert on French when we joined the EU they did start teaching it to the school and so you know you're part of the EU now so you're going to learn the foreign language the French are just over there and I think the old petalman might also be a slight translation might be fartmaniac so not just fartman but fartmaniac so by the way for one of my listeners I'm not going to do the EU joke I'm not going to do that because I want to keep the interview going when did you first discover Joseph Pujol who was also Le Petamane you were doing this before you knew there was a Le Petamane I was and we went to watch we went to the local cinema to watch I'm not sure yes I think it was Monty Python and the Holy Grail and you know they always used to have a little trailer a little film on before the main feature oh no he could have been the life of Brian anyway it was one of those two but beforehand there was a little 20, 15, 20 minute short film and it was it was a script by I think Galton and Simpson who were two quite famous British script writers wrote it and it was about the life of Le Petamane and it was played by an English actor called Leonard Rosseter and I think we ended up enjoying that more than we enjoyed Monty Python and and suddenly my friend said this is you, you could do this you know look he's performing on stage and you know and that was it really that was like a light bulb moment for them but not for me because by then I decided it wasn't too cool for the girls and I had to get really into me 20 and think you know who cares you know what I mean you don't get anywhere in life by following the crowd just be yourself and be unique and then individual and you'll either get slagged off there'll be people at your funeral saying well he always was a weirdo do you know what I mean I never lied to him he was a weirdo or he'll say he was a genius he was a bit mad but he was a genius and so you know I just thought well this divides people's opinions I shouldn't think you know I shouldn't I didn't have any great desire to be liked he doesn't worry me that people like Simon Cowell slagged me off because I know that it's a reaction you know that he's creating a reaction and of anything I like that because I haven't got a statement a political statement to make through farting I'll leave that to the politician you know but you know I like the fact that it sort of opens up in people a debate when you've left the room they'll say well I like that and there's someone I'll say well I thought it was disgusting and I was just talking to somebody actually he's wrote a book about Charles Dickens death and Mr Pickwick and he was actually just saying earlier because he's going to write a little bit of a blog and he's talking about a passage in Mr Pickwick and there's actually a reference in there from around 1830 he said you know and around that time he's saying this is a period when Victorian Prudery 1830 Victorian Prudery started to happen before that time the old cartoonists like James Gilray would have an anything goes policy in their drawings and they would happily show the king farting and shitting you know the public morality is summarised when one character says it's as though we no longer fart and so it's this debate about morality you know that some people say oh no I didn't find it funny it was disgusting and the others say well actually you know it's the first thing we laugh at as a child and it's probably one of the few things we can always laugh at you know so I like to believe that debate and also just he gets reaction but I don't get too theologically involved in it myself you know to me and I'm quite happy to drop the bomb and leave the room so to speak well we're all out of time we've been talking with Paul Oldfield also known as Mr Methane and he has been conversing with us from where in Great Britain where I'm up in North of Manchester I'm in the what they call the English Lake District which is the last county before you get into Scotland well when you come to America I'm hoping you play Boston because that's Beantown and then you go to Chicago the Windy City oh the Windy City yeah and your tour will be complete MrMethane.com it's MrMethane.com that's the one and then on there you can see all the Mr Methane products including I do personalized greetings for people which I share to them via YouTube so if you've got somebody you like or maybe somebody you dislike you know buy them a little Mr Methane personalized greeting do you do wedding proposals anything you know what I mean unless I'm asked to endorse something illegal or create public disorder I mean a few people ask me to do sort of things regarding Donald Trump before the elections because in England the word Trump means to break wind does it really? yes it does yeah if you're Trump in England it means to break wind and yeah obviously in the States it doesn't mean that but it does now it does yes yeah I'm happy with that but I don't like to get I very much like to just keep it to the farting and not get involved in the political stance because I want both sides of the debate to enjoy I want to reach out to to the alt-right as well as the left that's a good link we have to wrap it up but to you that's a great message for you young comics who are listening take it from Mr Methane political humor will divide an audience it will the best English comedians the best English double acts in history was more common wise and they always stayed away from politics and everybody loved them they hold the record their show, their Christmas show has never been nobody has ever beaten the ratings for their Christmas show in the 1970s and they loved by the entire nation whether you're on the left or the right everybody loves more common wise I think what Mr Methane is saying give it to them right down the middle yeah yeah I suppose so thank you Paul from the bottom thanks Dave thanks for having me and have a good rest of the day or evening thank you hey please do all your Amazon shopping via the David Feldman show website go to DavidFeldmanShow.com you'll see an 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fatigue right now today we're going to talk about Tom Price's seat in Georgia stem cell replacements, pneumonia and how Trump is actually a very successful president and food I want to talk to you about food first I love food you're a foodie I am a foodie I used to be a chef I bet you didn't even know that did you you were what you were a chef or are a chef no I was a chef I mean a chef would mean I worked in a restaurant I work in a restaurant and I don't work in a restaurant I'm a home cook now but I was a chef in a restaurant I lived in Amsterdam for four years where I was a chef okay well I'm interviewing tomorrow Jeremiah Tower who is responsible the chef a real chef I was a real chef but you're not Jeremiah Tower did you create shape and ease no I didn't create shape and ease but I worked in the health food realm and I was highly regarded in Amsterdam and I was sought after as to be guest chefs in other restaurants and in fact I went to I went to Berlin as a guest chef for a couple of months I was a real chef I was I was no kidding around wait a second how we climb founder of blue America pack a long time ago hang on for one second you also write the down with tyranny blog you are on this show as far as I'm concerned the leading expert on progressive politics you started punk rock you're responsible for reprise records you're responsible for bringing some of the greatest musicians from England to the United States and running Warner Brothers records you don't get to be a chef that's too much I was a chef before that no no you can't that that that that doesn't happen you can't have that I can't give that to you what do you mean you were a chef did you study chefery I yes of course I did what do you mean did you did you go to cooking school well no I studied under another chef so I didn't go to cooking school but another chef taught me alright either did Jeremiah tower by the way good he did not go to the CIA I wanted to go to the CIA the cooking institute of America they called the CIA that is actually the CIA that can accomplish things Jeremiah tower created shape and ease and stars in San Francisco where we're both from I could not afford to eat there when I was starting out did you ever eat at shape and ease or I did several times not because I could afford it but because people took me to it and it's pretty amazing what did you specialize in like I said I was specialized in health food so absolutely vegetarian food but you know everything was supposed to be two things delicious and healthy you were doing this in Amsterdam last week was 420 which also originated in the Bay Area I believe Marin County I'm going to say San Rafael 420 right probably or maybe Green Day made it up no no no 420 the kids who went either in Tiberon or San Rafael California created 420 the idea of at 420 school is over let's go smoke some dope that's where it comes from I for some reason I thought that it was Green Day who came up with that well they're from the Bay Area so maybe they appropriated it you have some stem cell treatment going on well no I did it thank goodness that's finished what happened was I had a rare form of cancer and the cancer can be relatively easily put into remission these days that particular kind of cancer I had which is called mantle cell lymphoma the problem with it is that it always comes back so the key for doctors is to make it so it doesn't come back because it gets harder and harder to get you into remission once it starts coming back so after chemotherapy which put it in remission my doctor did kind of an experimental stem cell replacement therapy on me which was very successful the problem is that after stem cell replacement therapy one often gets pneumonia as I did so I had pneumonia and double pneumonia and after that after you get all finished with pneumonia you hear my voice now the reason I have a scratchy throat and sound this way is because since getting finished with pneumonia several months ago I've had a chronic cough which has made my voice sound this way and very frequently even on your show I'm coughing and writhing you know can't catch my breath and sometimes I even panic because I can't stop coughing so I've been going to a doctor who's the head of a pulmonary institute and who's famous for being able to work with coughs he's one of the country's foremost lung specialists and we've been trying also to different things and you take this and it works for a few days and then it stops working and it's always the same thing nothing even works for a week it's always less so a friend of mine named Alex Campbell who is responsible for writing and helping to pass the medical marijuana bill in California is sort of my pot consultant he was when I was getting over the before this themselves when I was getting over the effects of chemotherapy which are very very harsh he convinced me to use some marijuana oil and that helped me get through it it was amazing I hadn't been able to sleep or eat I was like a third of my body weight and couldn't eat anything it was a mess and just a couple of days of marijuana and boom I was all fine again everything worked I was eating like a pig sleeping a bunch of different things that were bothering me and then I got fixed but as soon as I didn't have to do, depending on that anymore literally just a few days worth I couldn't wait to stop because I didn't like the idea of being high I didn't want to be high because I'd get up in the morning and I couldn't do my work Wow, interesting so this guy Alex Campbell has just said to me there's this really really good CBD which is the that's the active ingredient to get you high but the CBD is what cures all the medical problems so he said there's some really good stuff that can help your lungs so I went to my doctor I said what do you think and my doctor got really excited he said yes, let's do it this is great he said there's no protocol that he can advise me on but he saw what I was going to do and he said keep a diary I want to know every single thing you do I want to know the amounts he's real excited about it and guess what, it worked it's amazing to me I know my voice is really scratchy but I haven't been coughing for how long and I've been able to so that's great how long have you not been coughing how long has it been working for so the CBD is what does it so you know if you get a medical marijuana card in California and other states and you can buy some CBD oil the problem is that in order for the CBD to get activated you have to have a little THC so that means you're going to be high are you allowed to choose sativa the type of marijuana the kind of high well I'm not I can't smoke anything so I'm just strictly using oils but the oils I don't smoke marijuana I've been sober since 88 so as I understand it there are different types of marijuana that can give you different types of highs is it a specific strain of high I don't want any type of high I know that but there are different types of highs there's one that makes apparently one that makes you clear-headed and focused can you get a marijuana oil that makes you clear-headed and focused thank you for telling me I'll have to ask Alex because there's indica as I understand it indica and sativa and I always I have a mnemonic but I forgot the mnemonic this is my mnemonic sativa sat is saturday and you're supposed to relax on saturday but for some reason it's a reverse mnemonic and I think sativa gives you energy and makes you focused and makes you want to work hard it's an f-dup mnemonic but ask about that I'd be curious what I have now it's called mystic mango medicated elixir and it doesn't say if it's it doesn't say what kind of pot it is but it's basically it's a kind of emu oil it's called emu 420 420 so and the high you don't like being high no because when I'm high I can't function properly I can't I mean if I keep doing this I'll be able to I used to when I was a kid but you know you said you stopped in 88 I stopped in 69 right two things one is did you change your phone or something is there I'm noticing you sound different you sound a little different are you on a speaker yeah I don't sound different I mean I may sound different but I didn't do anything different I've been on a speaker since we started speaking do you mind getting off the speaker I think it might be better okay good yeah you sound much better now that you're off the speaker yeah I mean you haven't smoked pot since 69 I haven't smoked it since 89 88 89 what we were smoking it's like it's another drug but we were smoking back then it's not the same thing medical marijuana as I have a prejudice because I'm an alcoholic and I'm distanced free I have a prejudice against marijuana as well as medical marijuana because I refuse this is my own personal struggle and I know it's not true I refuse to accept the fact that there's any legitimate use for medical marijuana that's for me I believe in legalizing it I believe in medical marijuana but I like to believe that it's for my own personal safety for medical marijuana that's exactly how I felt about it until nothing else was saving me it was like I thought I was going to die and my doctor a different doctor we were talking about a pulmonary doctor my cancer doctor she thought that I needed to take some medical marijuana and that it would help me and I was very very resistant I had always thought that the whole medical marijuana thing was bullshit just so that people could get marijuana legalized and so they could get high that's what I believed it was and I was completely wrong I mean things that nothing else can help nothing else is helping marijuana helped we don't have to go into all my health conditions but just take my word for it there are things that can't be helped neuropathy you get neuropathy there's a good chance you're going to have it for life and nothing relieves it marijuana it does amazing well the good things in life I have Jeremiah Tower on the show tomorrow he created American cuisine modern American cuisine there's a new documentary about him it's called The Last Magnificent before Jeremiah Tower there was no California cuisine he invented California cuisine you have told me you're a chef and a foodie and you've traveled all around the world and you've eaten at some of the finest restaurants you were telling me about your two favorite restaurants in France in Paris what are the names of these two restaurants and as a progressive liberal do you feel guilty spending a lot of money at a fancy restaurant so there are two very different questions let's do one at a time so first of all so I'm going to Paris the first thing I did was book my plane flight the next thing I did was rent an apartment so I had the plane flight had the apartment the next thing I did was make reservations for my two favorite restaurants one of which, don't laugh because I know this is going to sound like it's a tourist trap, it's not in any way shape or form a tourist trap so one of them is called the Jules Verne and it's up on top of the Eiffel Tower and the other one is called Guy Savoy and I love both of the restaurants so again when I was a kid and when I first went to Europe I had no money at all a van I spent years sleeping in a van and there was no chance I was eating in a restaurant like either Guy Savoy or Jules Verne but later when I was running Reprise Records and I would have to go to Paris for meetings and stuff our French company would take us to these restaurants and that's how I discovered them and I loved them and the food is amazing so now it's one of the things I treat myself to we're going to be in Paris for a month and I have one night at the Guy Savoy and one night at the Jules Verne and those are the only reservations I made the other nights I'll be eating this wonderful Tunisian sandwich called Brick or I'll be eating a baguette with some breed cheese and the French and no I don't feel any guilt at all about eating good food is there some morality to eating properly I was watching Michael Moore's documentary Who Should We Invade Next and if you look at the public schools in France they're cafeterias who sit in a cafeteria and they have waiters and waitresses and they serve each other and they converse and they talk and they take the time they spend an hour sometimes 90 minutes in the cafeteria the kids 7 year olds talking over food there is a morality behind eating properly about eating the right food right yeah it's not a morality that's best imposed on other people but it's good to impose it on yourself so I've been a vegetarian since the 60's although although in the last years I've also been eating fish so I'm not really a vegetarian anymore but I was for much of my life now I eat fish a few times a week what are you going to do in France how do you how can you be a vegetarian in France what do you mean isn't everything like shellfish, frog legs pate can you have a good thing you can eat in any restaurant you can eat it as a vegetarian in any restaurant at all and I have anywhere alright that's good but in terms of the morality of eating I couldn't agree with you anymore in fact there's a congressman who I was talking to while this was happening so in real time a couple of years ago his name is Jared Polis P-O-L-I-S he's a congressman from Boulder Colorado a congressman he happens to be also the richest democrat in congress he started an internet firm and sold it and made a lot of money and he's a very wealthy guy he introduced a bill in congress that would give an option to schools an option so they don't have to do it but they would be able to do it if they wanted to to have one day where they can offer a meatless lunch in the cafeteria so they couldn't offer that alone so in other words any student who wants to eat could get the meat but one day a week people who didn't want to have meat could off or connect they would know that on Wednesday you could come in and you could have a vegetarian meal and he was just savagely attacked for it and it didn't pass and it was like it was considered to be un-American to even suggest such a thing it is un-American it's smart it's how I'm living in New York City I am trying to be vegan but I have fallen prey to pizza because pizza is very efficient in New York City if you're hungry and you're moving quickly they certainly have vegan pizza in New York City they do but it's not everywhere and I thought about zoning and I thought about the nanny state trying to get rid of big gulp coca-cola I would like to be protected I would like a nanny state I would like the city to say no every pizzeria has to have a vegan option because when I'm told well what about choice you're smart enough to make your own decisions I'm smart enough to make my own decisions when I have choices in New York City if I'm hungry and I'm on the move and I need sustenance it would be great if pizzerias were forced to have a vegan option you know what I'm a little too libertarian for that I don't want to force anybody to do that kind of thing you know I wanted a gluten free pizza I wanted good quality gluten free pizza here in Los Angeles I looked it up online and I found out that the pizzeria closest to my house the one that I could actually even walk to if I felt like it a couple of miles away served gluten free pizza I tried it, it was the best gluten free pizza I ever tasted and they have vegan pizza as well so you could find it yes it might not be on every street corner but I guarantee you in New York City you should not have to force anybody to do anything doing it in a relatively convenient way I don't want to argue with how we climb but we have this 5 year agriculture bill and it's incentives to the dairy industry and to cattle and to the ranchers and that's not libertarian that's one industry forcing a type of food literally down our throat well I disagree with that too of course why not create tax incentives for restaurants to give us gluten free dairy free food and to go vegan it certainly would save us money in terms of health care costs another discussion you're right it would and it would also help save the earth since cattle is one of the worst of the greenhouse gas causes by the way I'm not embarrassed this is a crazy show we have Mr. Methane on the show I don't even want to go into it but we found out that Mr. Methane doesn't release Methane so he's not a contributor to greenhouse gases I was going to say he doesn't like something does he no he sings oh ok he bases his act on Le Petamaine a French artist from the 19th century another discussion so you have a great piece in down with tyranny today everybody should go there it actually excited me about Trump I've been so oh I thought you were going to talk about Guy as Julius's piece well I'll get to that in a second but you I was reading down with tyranny and all of a sudden my juices got oh wow no more Trump fatigue you are the recipient of stem cell research which was stalled by one of the most successful presidents this country has ever had George W. Bush there's a myth that George W. Bush was an unsuccessful president the people who put George W. Bush into the White House got everything they wanted a perpetual state of war which means profits for defense for Ella Burton for whatever Prince's company Blackwater changed their name everybody who put George W. Bush into office Exxon everybody walked away with a handsome prophet after eight years in down with tyranny you write that Donald Trump is a successful president well yes he is successfully doing certain things what he's not being able to do is to cobble together a legislative coalition that's passing his horrible bills so that he hasn't been able to do and hopefully won't be able to do it however what he's been doing something that Republicans have reviled Obama for is defending all these executive orders so he's ruling by executive order and the Republicans aren't complaining they bitterly complained about Obama and they said it was tyranny and it was the dictatorship but Trump is doing it far more than Obama ever did and very very blatantly and very literally legislating without a legislature just doing it on his own and you know what he's done mostly is to get rid of a lot of really good legislation and executive orders that were passed under Obama that basically protected workers protected consumers in fact one of the ones that I know will get you going if we stop talking about it has to do with companies internet provider companies like AT&T for example now being allowed to sell your personal information without getting your permission and without even informing you all but 15 Republicans voted for that and Trump signed it so that's a disaster every single Democrat even the worst Democrats even the most corrupt blue dogs all voted against it but enough Republicans I think they were I think it passed two, yeah it did to 205 15 Republicans voted no and every other Republican voted for it so they can literally sell your internet browsing habits for example your Social Security number anything they can sell anything that's online anything at all so I mean I don't know that I would call that Trump being successful but yes he succeeded in doing something that Republican donors wanted to see done same thing with Wall Street regulations they're tearing them apart they're making it possible for Wall Street to rip you off with impunity and now I have to worry about being sued for it so again not my idea of successful but their idea of successful Trump's idea of successful they're doing that they're doing and same thing with environmental regulations they're destroying them for polluters to kill you without having to worry about being sued let alone without having to worry about the government stopping you so that is that's the sorry yeah and rights for workers yeah and what's interesting to me is as I read your piece I realized how ingenious the Koch brothers the corporate paymasters are they have us terrified about Obamacare they terrify us about North Korea Iran the Middle East ISIS this Russian story whether or not Putin stole our election all of this is important we should be focused on it while I'm reading your piece I'm thinking well we should be focused on these stories but we're being tricked it's prestidigitation it's a magic act the Koch brothers Exxon Mobil is saying pay attention to ISIS pay attention to North Korea that's scary stuff meanwhile they are cashing in their chips and absolutely absolutely he's delivering for them and they will deliver for him and for the Republican Party I mean people are saying oh the Democrats are going to say I including me are saying the Democrats are going to take back the house in 2018 meanwhile there is money flooding in to the Republican Party to defend that money is probably the single biggest factor if there is going to be a tsunami of revulsion against Trump and the Republicans in Congress then money isn't going to stop it but short of that kind of tsunami which doesn't happen that frequently money is the most important thing in getting people elected and the Republicans are going to have far more of it than the Democrats are for the 2018 elections the moneyed class let me get back to this question because Gaius Publius that's his name that is his name was that one of the names the non-deplumes from the Federalist Papers I believe it may have been I kind of got the impression he took his name from a Roman senator but I also think Hamilton and Madison and Jay when they wrote the Federalist Papers also used Latin names but well you should have Gaius on your show I would love that he's very very good and you can ask him about it so he's writing about the WikiLeaks and I'm going to bring this back to your piece because he outlines how Hillary gave a speech to Goldman Sachs and according to WikiLeaks she has no problem with North and South Korea being at odds with one another and it fits into the real politic that Henry Kissinger came up with under the Nixon administration triangulation and that under a Hillary Clinton presidency they would wax nostalgic about Kim Jong-un's father they actually thought that it was a sustainable situation was that a proper summation of Gaius Publius of what he said that so then I think okay what's going on with North and South Korea and China and Russia and where the aircraft carrier really was and how scared we we are it's and thad the missiles the anti-ballistic missiles that don't work all this stuff is it fair to say that there are forces at work in America who want all this stuff happening and are consciously stirring it up so nobody pays attention to what they're really doing to America to the workers to the environment is that a fair statement that there are people who are so I don't know that would make us conspiracy theorists now it's happening whether someone is doing it on purpose or not I don't know I don't know the answer to that but whether they are or they're not it's still happening before we wrap this up I wanted to ask you about Tom Price's seat and Georgia 6 Georgia 6 is that going to go Democrat what happened who is Tom Price why is he a horrible human being and Tom Price is a multi-millionaire crooked physician from the suburbs outside of Atlanta so the northern suburbs it includes part of three counties DeKalb Cobb and Fulton it is a it is the best educated district in America held by a Republican it is a wealthy district Hillary obviously didn't campaign there but her message resonated to such an extent and they were so repulsed by Trump that she nearly won the district in November Georgia district so this is not Trump territory Trump won every single county in the state of Georgia during the primary but he lost four counties the three I just named County where Athens is which is the University of Georgia the Clark County but those three counties Rubio won and he won Clark County so what I'm saying is they don't like Trump Hillary nearly won the district this is a district that was overwhelmingly for Romney overwhelmingly for McCain this is Newt Gingrich's old seat this is a Republican Heartland district they turned away from Trump and now they're not happy that their own congressman who Trump at the urging of Ryan and Pence Trump appointed him to be Secretary of Health and Human Services with the express purpose of destroying Obamacare and starting the process of destroying Medicare and Medicaid that's what this guy wants to do you may have heard something more about him fairly recently because he was caught doing insider trading so even worse than that he would help to form legislation that would help certain drug companies and then they would give him an opportunity to buy stock at a special rate in those companies completely illegal I expect this guy to be indicted at some point in any case a young guy I think he's in his late 20s he might have just turned 30 named John Osloff OSS OFF who had worked for John Lewis a congressman from Atlanta he had worked for him in Congress and he's a filmmaker as well investigative journalist type filmmaker and a good guy of course with him on the phone got to know him pretty well he's not going to be the next Ted Lu he's not going to be Alan Grayson he's not going to be Bernie Sanders he's not like that but he's a good decent Democrat with a progressive bent that's my that's my thoughts about him and he came so they just had an open primary so that means everybody, all the Republicans all the Democrats everybody runs on one ticket and when John Osloff first announced that he was running everybody thought well we'll probably wind up in the end with two Republicans running against each other in the final the runoff is June 20 and everyone figured it's just going to be two Republicans and there'll be no Democrat in the end Osloff had over 48% of the vote and the closest Republican a woman named Karen Handel a former Secretary of State and a very divisive figure I think she wound up with something less than 20% so now the question is will the Republicans all be able to coalesce behind her and defeat Osloff and the Republicans have literally poured millions of dollars into this race the importance of the race isn't because of one seat the importance of this race is if the Republicans lose it what it would mean is that Republicans in Congress will be so frightened to back Trump that his whole legislative agenda will fall apart even worse than it's already fallen apart so they're desperate to have Handel win this race but like I said she's a very divisive character she made her bones as an anti-choice fanatic I mean fanatic that's what she's about she's not very well liked all the Republicans who were campaigning there were something like 11 of them and they never attacked each other she's horrible and I expect there are going to be a great many Republicans that either will just sit it out because they don't want to vote for her or some who may even decide to vote for John Osloff so that's what that race is all about alright we'll keep an eye on it Howie Klein is the founder and treasurer of the blue America pack and everybody should go to the Dan with tyranny blog and read it I wanted to thank you because I've been complaining to my listeners it's been hard to get my heart started with Trump there's some fatigue setting in him I went to Dan with tyranny today and you know we're coming up on the 100 day anniversary he is a you're right he's a successful president there's a lot he can take credit for but if he does people will wake up and the Democrats will win back the house hopefully they will and hopefully even the senate okay thank you Howie talk to you soon thanks for listening that's our show special thanks to Bonnie McFarlane who will be with me May 7th at the punchline in Philadelphia her husband Rich Voss thank you for chiming in Pearl and of course Howie Klein not to mention Mr. Methane we just added Marty Short to our premium content which you can get by becoming a monthly subscriber for as little as $5 a month you can gain access to all our premium content go to David Feldman show.com you'll see the go premium button in the menu click on go premium and sign up only $5 $10 a month we take all major credit cards like I said we just added 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