 You dinked him, he's saying he's gonna take it, but he's not gonna take it. No, no, no, no, no, so to hold me, he get up in court and he sit there and he looking, judge talking, I'm looking over here, my son. Yeah. I said, when you gonna do it? He just stood up right in the middle of the shit and he said, let this nigga go. I didn't did it. The judge said, one more outburst out of you and you gonna be held in for ten. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. Previous to that, with my older son, I went to the penitentiary. I went to the federal penitentiary. Yeah, yeah. I went there for 60 months. For 60 months? Yeah, I went for 60 months. And when I got out of just having my son have to see me in the penitentiary. Me and your son are different. It was just gut-wrenching. So to get out and then to meet his mom and then to find out that she was pregnant and stuff like that. I knew that I had to get on my grind and get out of the streets, you know what I mean? So we weren't, I care about her and everything to this day, for giving me my son. But we just were at different points at each other's lives, you know what I mean? I just came home from prison, you know what I mean? So I'm still a little wild. No, no, no. You know what I mean? And she's a little bit a lot more conservative. So it didn't last, but we made it. How was you when you went to? When I went, so I went when I was 20, 22 years old, 21, 22. Yeah. Right? And it was funny because, you know, what everybody is saying that, oh, you know, I got all these fall saves, like I'm not gonna go to jail because I got somebody that's gonna go for me. I had a homeboy, you know, he's still my friend to this day, right? And I told him, I said, you know what? I thought I missed the plane and my flight because I was messing with this girl or whatever, just, you know, being young. And I said, you know, I'm gonna go ahead and get on the flight with you. But maybe if something happened, maybe you know what you gotta do, you know, that's your job. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? And lo and behold, we're young, stupid, thinking that they, you know, don't know about conspiracy and all that stuff. You know what I'm saying? So they linked us both together, right? And when they charged us and all the shit, right? We're in the back, go to court, we don't sit, and we've been talking. And I said, well, man, when are you gonna tell people so they can cut me loose and I can go home? You know what I'm saying? Because why don't two people need to go for the shit? That's right. So he said, man, all right, man, you know what I'm saying? And so I said, all right, cool. I said, he is going to go and go let the people know I'm gonna get out and I'm gonna take care of him that we're gonna life gonna be prepared for after, right? That's how it goes, that's how it goes. That's how I'm gonna let all these young people know it's not gonna go like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm telling you. You dinked him, he's saying he's gonna take it, but he's not gonna take it. No, no, no, no, no, no. So to hold me, he get up in court and he sit there and he looking, judge talking. I'm looking over here, muscle. Yeah. When you gonna do it? He just stood up right in the middle of the shit and he said, let this nigga go. I didn't did it. The judge said, one more, I'll burst out of you and he gonna be held in custody. I didn't know. No, he might've knew, but he didn't know. We around the same age and that's what I'm telling people. Listen, I'm gonna tell you. Cause we was out of town. I ended up going to trial still, but what I know now is, the homie didn't wanna be there by itself. Yeah, yeah. You wanna, you know what I mean? It's hard to get in trouble and then say, okay, I'm a man up, I'm about to go do this. You go on home. You know what I'm saying? It's easy to say and that's why I let all the people know. That's why I don't do nothing now. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I knew once I called my break and I'm not saying it to everybody. You know what I mean? Stop doing what you're doing. But if you didn't call to break, man, you better get out of there, man. Yeah, yeah. You better leave that thing alone. That's real. You know what I'm saying? So I ended up, so people know what happened with the story. I ended up going to trial cause I didn't really believe I did shit. My man ended up pleading guilty. You know what I'm saying? We ended up going back in the bullpen and stayed together until they separated. We fought side by side, but I knew then that, you know what I mean? He wanted me to do that bit with him. You know what I'm saying? He wanted me to stay there with him and be side by side friends, cook soups together and do all the shit. How long did you stay in there? 60 months. 60 months. You know what I'm saying? 60 months, man. So what was the, give me, I always ask this cause I have a lot of people that come on and been locked up. Like what was the defining moment for you and when you incarcerated? My son coming up there. You know, my son and my dad coming up there. That was just, you know, to have a responsibility because all of the cars, all of the jewelry, everything that I hustled for, it was a made up responsibility. The only one responsibility that God gave me was the one that he gave me that was my kids. That's real. That's just the one responsibility that I got. You know what I mean? And I chose when with his mama for us to lay down, it was a chance that we would make this happen. And I did it and I felt like I let him down. You know what I'm saying? I felt like I misprioritized what it was cause at that age, like with my daughter and I tell people, I'm like at eight years old, she don't need no more money. She need her dad. That's real. But at that age, did you know God? Man, no, no. Not like, like I do now. You know what I mean? There's a difference. I wasn't, yeah. I wasn't, no. No, not at all. Cause when you have somebody to answer to like that, you have another way of thinking compared to when you're young. You just thinking about just moving, doing at that moment in time. You're not thinking about anybody else or anything else. Yeah, no, I didn't, thinking back on it, I think that that might have been what was necessarily missing in my life at that point in time. Thinking back, as you say it, it's one thing that I didn't have. I had everything else, but I didn't have, I didn't have a strong faith or belief in God at all. You know, I'm gonna go back a little farther, you from East Oakland, and you one of them guys that, you done, you was dealing with music and all kind of stuff from what I'm hearing. So you wasn't just no regular, you know, and the people, I talked to be legit about a few days back. You know, when I was trying, when I was coming, I was like, man, I'm being cally. I was just trying to figure out who gonna be where, you know? He said, man, we, I'm in, I'm in Oakland. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Like, and I'm like, I need to, I need to, man, I need to go up there. I really, really wanna go up there and do some interviews, right? Right. But I just gotta figure out when we gonna do it. We got so many people that's telling me, we won't come here, Miami or whatever. But anyway, Oakland is something different because it wasn't about gangs and stuff up there. It's more about pimping and play-os. And I don't, I don't, we had, what, a couple of them from up there that was real live films. You know what you mean? But see what happens in Oakland is independent, the independence, an independent man, a thinker, right? You don't, it's just no gang banging because we're so of the mindset that whatever street you from, that's the street you from. Ain't no help. You gotta ride for the street. You gotta ride for your neighborhood. You gotta ride for that street. Ain't no, what we call turf hopping. If you hopping around from set to set, you know what I'm saying? My particular neighborhood been up and down like a roller coaster until I got on them. Okay, okay. Now we up, up, up. Hey! That's all. You know what I'm saying? But we're up to the point that I'm the first guy that where I could be strong and I could press my neighborhood, I could press my city, I wanted to be the first snigger to walk away on top. I drove up out of there and the brand new Bentley GT, you know, the Rolls, all the shit. You know what I'm saying? It goes along with in the game. But for me, it meant being an example of walking away on top. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. One on one. Yeah, we gonna talk.