 So we know we pick up items in the order on the agenda and we have a clipboard here. So if you're want to have party status or getting a notification of what's happening, relative to different items on the agenda, please sign the clipboard. Don't find time during the meeting. I won't say anything about the acoustics. So the first item tonight is the agenda. We have no real changes on the agenda, even though one item is asking for a time. Well, I guess we'll get to it on the 287 Shelbert Street, right? Yeah. Okay. Any other changes on the agenda? No. Communications. I don't see any communications. Is that true? Correct. Okay. Minutes. Minutes from February 5th meeting here. So that's in a packet so people can look at it. Great. So the first item, next item is the consent agenda. First time on the consent agenda is 189-191 South Champlain Street, African here. So this is on the consent agenda, you know, and this is, you have the staff's recommendations We do. You're okay with their recommendation? We review them? Yeah. We're all right. Anybody on the board having any objections? Trina says consent? Anybody here in New York? 289-191? Well, it's a nice project. Too bad we can't show it. Well, it's full detail. You know, we can just, anyway, but I guess we'll see the real thing at some point. We had to just show it at the DAB. You missed it. Yeah. We're not invited to those. Okay. Can I have a motion on 189-191 South Champlain? Sure. On 19-0401CA 189-191 South Champlain, I move that we approve the application and the DAB staff's findings and recommendations and conditions. Second. Any discussion? All in favor? Both. It is a nice project. We look forward to seeing it happen. Okay. Yeah. Good luck. Thank you. Okay. The next item is public hearing is 410 North Street. So this is a request for time extension. It actually sounds like a couple of modifications on the original approval. Yep. And I, anybody else here for 410? Just you. Okay. So can I raise your right hand? You just want to tell the truth and hold truth on the pain and penalty of her jury. I do. You want to introduce yourself and I think you've probably seen the staff reports. They're recommending approval. Yeah. Name first. Yeah. So my name's Scott Goodwin. I own the property at 410 North Street. The two years ago I applied for a, I guess two and a half years ago, I applied for a accessory dwelling right in the garage into a accessory dwelling. And I've done all the work myself. So it's been taking me a while. And then I also last summer I added the addition onto the existing building. And the one outstanding item I have left is to install a sprinkler system. And actually I've gone through three contractors and there's such a small building now. No one really wanted to do it. So I finally have some lined up. There we go. I'm actually starting tomorrow, ironically. And I should be able to close the project in the next month or so. And then what you're flashing in front of you is... That was kind of like reminding me that it doesn't like to stay steady. So it must have gotten on clearance. There you go. So when I initially applied for the project, I needed to add an extra parking space. I had one right there where Ryan's going to. And then two in the garage. And I really didn't want to park two cars in the garage. So I had to have extra storage. Now that I ran over the whole space, I went down to the storage. And I ended up fitting. I was a little confused about a couple of the zoning standards. Once I understood that, I figured a way to fit the three parking spaces in between the house and the garage, which seemed to work. And part of the thing was that you were going to have added second bay in the garage and not doing that now you could stay with one bay. One thing I'm curious about is... I'm not going to look at that. The entrance is on the back side of the building for the accessory apartment. Well, yes, I have two entrances. I have one that's through the garage. So I'll still have the one garage door. And then I can't stay on this plan. Through the garage door? Yes, so the through the garage door gets you into the garage space. But a person is not going to... No, you don't open the garage to go... No, no, yes, so there's the whole plan. So there's the two... There's that garage space that you're looking at now. And then that shaded gray is where the actual accessory dwelling is. And then there's an addition on the adults this summer that's off of that. So there's also a side door that enters onto the east side. Okay, so that's... Unless I'm mistaken, that's not in our plan, is it? No, that's not before us. So this is Ryan's? Yeah. So we don't have a plan of what he's discussing. That's right? Well, it wasn't part of the discussion for the night, I guess. It was an addition. The parking isn't approved. The parking isn't part of the tonight. Okay. The change... Well, what I'm concerned about is that the entrance into the accessory apartment right now... is on the... what we have shows on the back of the building with no way to get to it. Well, did it see the one that shows both the garage and the accessory? Yeah. Well, it totally shows the distance. But you're saying there's no walkway or sidewalk? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's no walkway to get there along the side of the building. But the parking was originally in the garage for the ADU, is that right? Yes. Okay. I just want to make sure that we're... Is there a door around the right-hand corner there? That's on the back. Yeah. So there's a door... Can I point this around? Yeah. Why make it sound flickering? There's a garage door right here. And then there is a man door right here. So there's one way in, and then there is... So there's no way to get into that garage door through a man door or a person door? No, there is. This garage door is staying. Right. But a person doesn't really want to walk through a garage door to enter. It's an apartment. So you should have a door on the back. Yeah, and then I also have a door on the back. Right. With no passenger. Well, I've done so many zoning permits. I can't remember which one. But I also... I'm building a walkway next summer. That's part of the zoning permit. Is there any issue with it? Yeah, because he's got the proper... This is the easement right here, this whole thing. Yeah. So he's got the path going along the whole way. That was originally permitted in the original approval, I believe. It certainly is readdressed in the second or third. Okay. It was not on this one, yeah. Well, that is an issue because that's what we have to look at. Interesting. Okay. Sure. So I could make approval. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Is there a site coverage? A lot of coverage issue? No. Okay. And it's already been addressed in the previous permits. Access walkway. Will we need a plan? Do you want a plan showing the parking with the connection? Yeah. Well, I mean it... Oh, because it's not... Well, if you did park there, you could go through the garage again. But we just... If we haven't... If we show approved and modified plan with parking that way, we shouldn't show the walkway. Yeah. So I guess in our approval, we can ask for... Yeah. Drawings. I haven't all the... I haven't all the drafts up already, though. Yeah. That's the only problem I have was that things were inconsistent. And I understand your plan for summary permits. You also had a suit against it. Yeah. Yeah. That's why spending the last... I think the last... The one of the NICLA approved from you guys. Two and a half years of previous... I remember this one. Yeah. Okay. Any other questions for the applicant? We're going to close the public hearing. And we'll probably deliberate. Thank you for tonight. We'll have to imagine that. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. We're done for now. Okay. And when we deliberate, you don't have to participate in the deliberation. You can leave on the stage if you want to. I might as well say. Okay. So the next item on the agenda is... 287 Shelby Street, City of Brooklyn School Department. Okay. I think you just said we're closing the public hearing. Maybe we should reopen it just for process. You just said we're closing the public hearing. For other... Yeah. That's a public hearing for that item. Okay. So this is other business. This is other business. Okay. I wasn't closing the meeting. That's what you thought. The meeting is not adjourned. That's what people would say when the meeting is... No. We actually see that we're adjourned. Great. But we're not. Great. It must be the room. It's very confusing down here. That's what it is. It's all thrown off. Anyway, so the next item, City of Brooklyn School District request for a time extension for construction of two-story building with a 10,000 square foot footprint, of which we've never seen anything. Is that true? You haven't seen it. Right. And this is to be clear, this is not a permanent extension. This is an extension of the application. Right. So DRB has in its bylaw something similar that says an application can be pending for six months and up to two extensions. Yeah. That has been sent and codified in the zoning code, which is why this is before you. So this application started in June. Right? So it's been six months. I reached out to Marty just before six months because of scheduling. It's closer to seven at this point. But they're seeking an initial extension to keep that application alive as opposed to withdrawing it and reapplying it. Do we have to take testimony on this? Or can we just discuss it? No. The question is, do we have to swear somebody in? This is not shown as a public hearing. Yes. You should get a testimony. OK. I'm going to have you swear. It's not being reviewed on the merit. OK. You're square to tell the truth and hope the truth on the pain and penalty perjury. I do. And can you introduce yourself? My name is Marty Spaulding. I'm the director of property services for Birmingham and it's sort of a brief explanation in our packet. Maybe just explain the reason for the extension. I'll give you a little background. So the school district, we're in dire need to increase preschool space in our schools. So we had an initial proposal to renovate our Ira Allen building for a preschool center for various different reasons. We changed directions and we started. And we designed a concept of having a south end preschool center. It was going to be a five classroom preschool center with our administration on the second floor. And then we're also going to have a five classroom preschool addition off of our Smith property. We submitted an application. We got through the process of submitting the application for the south end project at 287. This is located on our property services building on Shelburne Road, that site. Once we started through the public comment process, there was enough contention from the community about changing the direction from that initial plan to have a preschool center at our 150 Colchester Avenue site. We kind of put the project on hold. We created a pre-K task force. That task force is currently looking at all of the options for our preschool focusing mostly on, does it make sense to have this preschool center at 150 Colchester Avenue or these two north and south end preschool sites? That pre-K committee, their goal is to make a recommendation to our board by April. So this is the reason why I'm asking for the extension because this project isn't necessarily dead in the water and we're still in the process of moving forward to make a firm decision on where we're going to go with this project. And is a three-month extension realistic if you're not getting any decision? I'm going to give moral to you. But I mean, I think it's realistic to say that our goal is to have an answer by April. So, you know, hopefully we'll be in a better position. You have to do plans. Correct. But my understanding is we have the option for two extensions. And you need to show progress. So we're showing progress at least at this stage. If we get to April and show more progress, then that would be the need to add that extra time. Are the findings of the task force at all conditional on the votes in March? No. Questions for the applicant on this? Well, I'm hearing but I'm going to close the item. Thank you. Thank you. That is really the extent of our agenda for tonight. Zoning amendments. What's that? Zoning amendments, yep. Are you going to make us look at the blanking? Yeah. Sorry about that. It makes me think TRC for UDM's event center was here. And they were mortified. It was doing the same thing. That looks good. See you, Marty. Thanks. See you, Marty. So this is a follow-up to our joint meeting. The idea of giving you guys a little additional information on amendments to Zoning Code. So you all should have a zoning ordinance on the cover sheet that says it's amended through November of 2018. So you should look and see that that's actually the case. I talked to Lane. We'll produce an entire updated ordinance for you all for the next meeting. But the idea has been to rather than issue an entire CDL every year or two, it's actually updated as the amendments are passed. So that said, since November, although since the form code was adopted, we've had one, two, three, four, five, seven zoning amendments. So we'll just take through those. So the St. Joseph's Rezone, that's out on Ellen Street, the St. Joseph's Code Cathedral. That simply amounted to changing the zoning district boundary to make the property all neighborhood mixed use. You'll see on the map there, it used to be divided between residential medium and neighborhood mixed use. Those amendments simply made it all neighborhood mixed use. Scott, does that include the little house right next to the church itself? I'm just curious. So many. It includes everything in here. OK. So the little house, I see houses on the side. Inside. OK. I think it's a small building. Thank you. Then we have a really giant zoning amendment. Food and beverage processing was a consolidation of multiple zoning uses that we had, like breweries, wineries, distillers and whatnot. But we forgot to adjust the parking requirement for that new combined use. And that's all that this zoning amendment was. So any amendment in 1803, at risk of making you look more at this thing, all it was was an update to the parking cable. What did it result in? It resulted in striking some of the former uses, like bakery. Right? So those are gone. And an introduction of the new standard for the new standard for food and beverage processing. Scott, you're doing this off of the Explorer. Can you do this the preview mode rather than open the document, whether or not that's going to make it not? Yeah, it's not that. It's the connection. OK. So a pretty minor amendment. Article III changes. This was a cleanup to appeal periods and deferrals, application extensions. I don't know how much we want to get into the weeds with this stuff. Most of the time, you guys don't deal with this stuff at all. This amendment established criteria and limits for permit extensions. Previously, the CDO said you have an extension. Didn't say how many or under what grounds to actually do it. Right? And through practice, we kind of established three and said that well, if you can still do it under the present code, you can do it now. So that's been codified now. That's extensions. Limits have been changed. You'll see an item B below there. So I think permits have been given a three-year lifespan opposed to two. You still have a year to start. But now you have two to finish. Permits, so do you. The violations are still a single year. Item B, permit appeal period there is sort of into the weeds. Getting a potential of four stays and DRB appeal periods. Deferral. So this is what we just considered tonight. So that's a new paragraph on the bottom. We've been in the pipeline for six months. So the DRB application, you guys can extend it twice. So we've codified that. Again, deferral sort of happened. And we didn't really have any guidelines as to how we dealt with them. Bike parking. So you may be familiar with the city. Adopted fairly recently. A. I won't go through all this because it's agonizing to look at. I'll just speak to the item. So plan bike walk was adopted a couple of years ago. Right. And in that it had recommendations for updating the bike parking standards. And to enable some additional flexibility. So like the vehicular parking standards, there's a table for bike parking for various uses. That was revamped and updated. More significantly, I think the amendments introduced an in lieu payment option. So if your site is such that you physically can't produce all the required bike parking long versus short term on site, you actually make a payment to the city. And that will be used to produce more publicly available bike parking. On public land somewhere? Yeah. Yeah, basically on the safe side, Parkland, basically a public resource. A similar provision was made that the developer can go ahead and put bike parking within the public right away for that project. It's a little bit different than the in lieu payment. It basically allows you to put your bike racks in the sidewalk. So that the public works to be an approval. So bike parking standards have been revamped and updated. So this section, God, it's terrible to look at. I think it's going to be a positive look at that. So I'm turning it off would be a better thing. I don't know if anybody else. Yeah. Yeah. It's done. Just tell us now. All right. All right. So section 353 of the zoning code. I used to be conditionally used to major impact exemptions. Before that it was just major exemptions when the conditional use standards were revamped several years ago. Conditional use got thrown into the major impact exemptions and had the effect of exempting pretty much all initial uses, which was not the intent. So section 353 exemptions is now just major impact exemptions as was originally. So disappointed. I show here. Two more amendments. You're all familiar with city market south end. They came in, got their approval from this board. Their building was a little bit larger than the 30,000 square foot limit that they were allowed. And we kind of had to go through some contortions about, all right, well, we'll separate this office space for a third party use. And here's our cafe. And so we grocery stores less than 30,000. So for their requests, they came back and said, gee, you know, we'd actually like to expand into the total building volume, right? So in order to do that, the ceiling needed to be bumped up. So we say, are you sure you really mean 35,000 this year? So the ceiling has now moved from 100,000 to 35,000 square feet. So city market, if they so choose, can expand to their entire building envelope. And last but not least, without getting into mind-bending discussions about fractions and decimal points, residential density calculations have been revamped, section 527. The short explanation is the density calculation used a lot of undefined terms in the zoning code, talked about development site, things like that. And we all kind of knew what they meant. And it kind of told us about the math. But we replaced the undefined terms like development site and referred specifically to defined terms like lot. So we know what we're talking about. We've got defined terms in there. And we've spelled out in more detail the calculation and how far out we bring the decimal in rounding. So said very briefly, we've simply cleaned up and clarified our residential density. It's calculated in the residential zones. So all that said, you guys will get a completed CDO at our next meeting. But after that, we'll hand you the updated articles as they're changed, as opposed to an entirely new ordinance. The electron will figure out the non-blinking display next night. Will the updates, like as they get done to be available on the, will they be inserted into the electronic version of the CDO that's on line? Yes. Just good paper updates a month ago? Yes. I have a couple more for you. But that didn't include what you just went through. You have everything that I went through tonight, except for the density calculation and the condition exception, which you should have. And if you don't, you'll have it all. Yeah, it will be updated. A lot of work happened, isn't it? OK. Any questions on that display? With that, that's the last item on our agenda. Is there any other business? We are adjourned. So we celebrate. I see no reason not to. We have two items. One was 410 North Street and the other was 287 Shulker Street.