 This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network We have broken down the weird props. We have broken down the traditional player props We have broken down the matchups for cheese versus eagles It is time to break down the thing that matters most who's gonna win the dang games talk about that for today We got Ryan Williams on to break down his thoughts on Super Bowl 57 breaking down the key matchups here where he's looking at the Spread total and money line and getting you set wrapping things up for our coverage for Sunday's game This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and number fire calm My name is Jim Sonos. I am a senior writer and analyst for number fire calm Joined here as mentioned by Ryan Williams checking out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscore W Ryan it is a pleasure to have you back on the show for today. We're talking Super Bowl. How you doing today? Oh I'm doing great Jim. It's a pleasure to be back here in the seat with you can't believe that And I say this every week, but I can't believe we we made it and this is it. This is the plateau This is what we've all been waiting for and I'm excited to get this game going man You know, we have the Philadelphia Eagles who've been rolling all year chiefs back For the third time in four years So this should be an exciting one and I can't wait for it to start. I wish it was tomorrow me too I wish it was tomorrow, but I also wish it were like six weeks away because like I didn't really hit me till like this morning I was like, oh Like because we recorded earlier in the morning and I was like, oh Like I wanted to record it at eight o'clock Eastern anymore But like I won't get to talk to Ryan anymore and like it was like, uh, I got sad man. It was weird I wasn't expecting that because it didn't like hit me I guess really that like it's like you're kind of rushing rushing rushing rushing all year long and all of a sudden They're like it's like, oh it's almost done and I'm like I don't want it to be done yet I know man. What a what a fun year man for 2022 and shout out to all those who are following along With our hits or with my hits. I should say I'm covering the spread because you hold down Uh all the time religiously, but it was a fun year. It kind of weird In the middle of it. I felt like but you know, once we once me and you got into a groove I felt like we were definitely hitting on some things and yeah postseason time It's it's definitely been a fun one. So we're looking to just keep that going, man I hope we can we're going to break down Ryan's read on the traditional markets in this game We'll also talk to him about some props if he has uh, Someone wants to share there too because we can't waste Ryan's knowledge in that regard We'll talk about all that here in just one second But as mentioned, we have our other podcast for this game Already up on the covering the spread podcast feed our guest Joe Strausky JJ Zacharyson Pamela Maldonado all right here breaking down their knowledge on this game Ryan knows Joe. 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How do you see things playing out there? Yeah, so I mean with the chief's offense is on the field. I mean, we love that there's a buy, right? So we That's the that's first and foremost It will be interesting. My home's kelsey. We we know that's foregone conclusion, right? mvs showing out in the playoffs is something that packers fans probably hate to see but he's he's just been the next guy Or people used him in dfs during the regular season as well. So, you know, specifically weeks one to five I eventually are my lesson, but it was weeks one to five was painful Yeah, which is Incredible to just even think about right when we're talking about the free agents that they bring in and juju's supposed to be the guy and He just hasn't been able to stay healthy and hasn't been able to get going They bring in cadarius tony and he gets the ankle injury In the divisional round or yeah divisional round. Excuse me. So, um I do think that we should expect to see a high powered offense. I mean the week of rest for Patrick my home's ankle Definitely loved that and I think that they they know that they have one path of winning this game And that's probably through Patrick my homes. They need him to go out there and score points Philly is most likely going to try and Run the ball to keep him off the field. I know people hate that terminology and saying that but that's philly's best chance to win I feel and they've been able to establish the run through this Easy quote-unquote run that they've had to get to the super bowl So I do like the chiefs to be able to you know be high powered Homes to be able to to sling it there. I think that they're definitely Andy reads working in the lab to game plan some things going and this this Often to line for the chiefs is definitely going to have to hold up this front seven for the eagles Is no joke have has not been a joke all year They need to know where Hassan reddick is at all time that does concern me a little bit Jim But I do think that they you know, Andy read Probably in the similar way with the bingles, right? It's just trying to get Patrick my home's keep stuff to the close To the line of scrimmage and try and keep the eagles on their heels so that they can't open up a deep ball to calc or to mbs So that that's kind of my read on it, but I do think that the chief's Best way to success is going to be passing the ball. I know people have talked about isiah pacheco A lot this week. I am curious to see how they utilize the backfield with Clyde Edwards allay are being activated So we're we are thinking of some type of a three-headed monster I know McKinnon's kind of been priced out But this actually feels like in a weird way Jim a better way to get McKinnon going right with the front seven Is going to be coming and getting pressure on Patrick my home It's like why not just have two backs out there in pacheco and McKinnon and be able to you know dump it off to them I know McKinnon hasn't shown Much in the playoffs so far as of yet But what he was doing kind of leading up to that point and in the regular season and earning that trust I think that you know in the big lights He might be he might be one that they try and lean on more in this game Yeah, JJ mentioned he liked McKinnon's receiving yardage over so he's on the same page there. I'm on pacheco to win MVP so About that might be a bit ambitious But the thing that you mentioned that I wanted to go back to Was the bi-week because when I talked about this game initially back on the monday after the conference championship I was operating under the assumption that I thought that one of juju and tony would play and I was projecting this game as if One of them would likely play. I thought hardman was done I you know, I didn't think he'd play but like I thought that one of them might play And I wanted to leave open the chance that neither of them would play. So when I put in my my numbers it was kind of Assuming that they're they're getting Justin Watson back But potentially without the other guys and you look at the practice report from wednesday Guderius tony was limited so that's not fully back yet But that's better than it was he practiced on monday and tuesday as well and juju smith shuster was full I think that's a key because juju Before the conference championship popped up as being limited on friday with a knee injury and He wasn't like questionable like travis kelsey was but he was banged up and seeing a full practice here Ups my faith in the cheese offense and as a result I actually lowered the decrease I have on the cheese offense Um, I slow them lower than what they they you know have benefit for the full season I have a downward adjustment in there for them, but it's not as big as it was initially So I went in there and made that change as a result of this health ryan Where are you on the cheese health? Do you feel good about them in the sense that you're treating them as being like Kind of their usual selves slight downgrade. Where are you when you consider the health of my homes? juju tony etc Yeah, I'm really not concerned. Um, when we talk about the the the names that you're referring to jim The biggest things for me were willy gay Um being out there because of how philadelphia plays right full practice love to see that Legerious need who was talked about and azim is not even on the report So getting him back is going to be huge and when we talk about these guys tony mckinnon juju Sure, they might mean something to The offense because that means we're not seeing the likes of you know, jody fortson and Justin watson and things of that nature But what they did last week or two weeks ago, excuse me against the bangles should show you that As long as you have the quarterback and you have the quarterback's best weapon Then in a running back who we can rely on Everything else is just kind of follow suit. That's what the chiefs have done That's kind of the regime that they have built it and that's why they were okay with getting rid of tyreek It's like we can do plug and play outside of our quarterback and our tight end and we'll figure it out with the team Which is really impressive But for me, that's kind of what it speaks like if this would have been If we wouldn't have been able to see the bangles game into fruition and we were just talking about this being the first time I'd be a lot more concerned but knowing that we did have that in the conference championship I don't see why we are concerned with the names on this list from the offensive side Right, it's that they they've already shown they can do it and the fact that they've had two weeks to game plan around The guys who are missing. I think that those are both keys here. Okay, let's just focus here and talk about the eagles offense against the chiefs defense It's it's a bit of a mismatch for sure With this eagles rush offense against this chiefs rush defense. So how do you see things playing out when the eagles are on the field? Yeah, the the eagles best path as I said is is On the ground and that's no surprise. Everybody would say that right Jim Like they just you're gonna get mouse sanders. Hopefully involved Uh, have some uh bets on his over rushing props. I think I got it at 13 and a half Not sure where it is that now I haven't checked in a while at 13 and a half And I think like plus 102 on the over last time I checked Yeah, I'll check that for you. Yeah 14 was kind of my number. So getting it at 13 and a half seemed fair I do think that kenneth gain well is going to be Immensely involved here. His rushing and receiving prop is under 50 Let's just take that for what it is because he's been able to hit that in forward the last five Not to get into the props model, but this is just where where it lands, right? And so you're looking at jaylin hertz who was injured towards the end of the season He comes back from week 18 and he's been pedestrian when you look at his numbers now You could say well, he wasn't needed. It was a week 18 Then they get the buy going to the divisional round. They handle business There they go into the conference championship round has son retic and axel brock purdy And they're able to handle business there But I do think when you're looking at the other side and knowing that patrick mahomes And the chiefs are on the other side and we can expect them to score Three touchdowns that don't apply total just on the normal given day Like if the run game for whatever reason isn't going because we haven't been able to trust Philadelphia's run game all the time. Remember it was jaylin hertz who was carrying that load for them to start the season Which kind of plateaued him into the mvp conversation So let's say that myles sanders just kind of Is out there laying a duck or isn't able to get these yards and then it maybe we have to rely on can a game One more but I am concerned about the passing game all that to set to be said Because we have aj brown who's only got seven catches in the postseason I know davonta smith was kind of showing out but he had one catch there It gets the giants which shouldn't really or maybe it was the 49ers. Yeah, it was a niner's game Yeah, that wasn't a catch so In hurts hasn't been needed in that capacity So that's what concerns me about the eagles and I and I love jaylin hertz and I'm hoping that this is a great game I've loved the over in this game because of what the two offenses mean But that's the concern with philly is there's probably one path for them that we know for sure They want to do in order to get to the super bowl and if that gets derailed in any way And they have to get away from that then I trust I don't trust the identity of the offense there So that that's what's huge from the chief's defense. I just really quickly like I said the health was the big thing So knowing that they get willy gay back knowing that luxurious need is back and and the way the the chiefs play aggressively, right? So like on the run they might just they might just give up yards there But I think from the passing standpoint the way that they play aggressive They could force jaylin into a turnover or two and that's what really could make it interesting if they can get patch one home's back the ball on a short field and Be able to set this game apart. Yeah, I think it's important to clarify that like We're saying we haven't seen the eagles in terms of can they make up ground if they fall behind It's not that they can't we're not saying that we're saying we haven't seen it yet because they haven't had to Because they've been so good across the entire year talked about this with Pamela yesterday But in the entire year postseason and regular season Jaylin Hurts has 22 pass attempts while trailing in the second half the entire year gardener Minshew has 31 Which like tells you that a jaylin Hurts is a lot better than gardener Minshew because he was not showing as often But b we haven't seen that does that does not mean that they can't do it I think that if you gave me jaylin Hurts with no shoulder injury I'd have more confidence in the eagles ability to make up ground I'm not there yet right now and it's in part because like The shoulder injury is there from that bear's game, but then also in that 49ers game He looked a little banged up again. Um, I'm not sure if I was like missing that but like When he ran that sneak in for the touchdown He didn't look fully healthy now maybe the two weeks have made that better, but I don't know. Did you get the same vibe that I did where it's kind of like I'm not totally totally convinced that he's 100% right now Yeah, well look at the other side of of the spectrum gem I mean, he's going against guys Greenlaw and and bosa and the rest of those guys on the 49ers difference I mean they did their best to try and keep Josh Johnson and the 49ers offense in that game Which is also the concerning part too when you're talking about the eagles offense, right? As soon as Brock birdie went down Eagles should be up by two scores minimum That's just how they should have been able to to work it in it was close there for a little bit of time until we got to the third quarter and they were finally able to get things going and separate themselves, but This she's the by no means is is like the 49ers As far as talent goes But I do think that they have pieces when you talk about chris jones and others on that front line And the secondary that could go out there and really make things, you know Miserable, I think they can scheme up some some exotic blitzes and things of that nature If they if they Are getting to points where they have to force Philly to throw I think that's going to be the biggest thing is how can we get Jalen hurt to have to win this game for this team? Um, that that's probably going to be the mo for the chiefs, right? We haven't seen it yet make them show it to us make them prove that they can do that That's kind of the goal for the cheese for sure Okay, we talked about the chiefs offense and the eagles offense Let's spin that forward now and break down the traditional markets in this game Right now at vandal sportsbook the eagles are one and a half point favorites. Their money line is minus 122 Chiefs are a plus 104 ryan when you look at those two markets spreading money line any value for you right now Yeah, just look at the chiefs get it as an underdog So this is actually the first official time that patrick mahomes will have been an underdog In the post season in his career You're looking at andy reid his record off of the buy is absolutely incredible So when we're talking about a game that has a and I just look at the total right if Vegas is saying that 50 And a half points are expected to be scored in this game and we know the eagles bet pass Bet path to success is to run the ball and to kind of keep that going there Then if we get into a shootout by any means like i'm just going to take the chief side of value there You know open that two and a open at two and a half now at one and a half Which seems right when you're all things considered when you're talking about the dynamic of these two teams But I do think experience plays a little bit of a factor here You got guys like jason kelsey and brandon graham. I think there's a couple others on the philadelphia side Who could be hosting hoisting their second lombardi? But when we talk about the experience in the important positions right with the best player On offense two of the best players on offense for the chiefs the head coach like have been there before I do think experience is going to Rain supreme for the kansas city chiefs and if they are getting plus money on them I want to get that action every time. Yeah, the money line is plus one of four I think that if you are interested in the chiefs, which I also am obviously Um as discussed last week, uh money line is plus one of four the spread is minus one ten And you're getting plus one and a half which basically means the only spot where you win that bet Without winning the money line is that they lose by one So to me ryan, I feel like you take the money line here every time versus the spread, correct? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely And I have the cheese at uh at uh I got them at 108 or 110 depending on where you got it from last monday And I talked before about how I've adjusted my numbers again to account for the fact that Uh juju is healthier. Tony might play and stuff like that So it's an upward adjustment for the eagles or the cheese and once I do that my Better model has a chiefs as 1.89 point favorites. So Pretty heavily favored in this game. Uh win odds associated with that are Higher than you know 49 percent obviously So I think the money line is still the right way to go and there's still value there I would say I would not be shocked if we see some more public money come in on the chiefs here this weekend So if you want to bet the cheese do it now I think we could see that change now. Maybe I'm misreading that maybe it comes in on the eagles instead I don't know. It's been pretty steady, but With the Super Bowl you see a lot of money come in late in the week over the weekend and stuff like that So we could see this market move again personally I'd rather take it now because I think it's a very good value and if it moves against me and I misread that Oh, well, so be it, you know that happens Um, but I would be taking that now taking that money line Don't let the cheese. I just think that They're the better team. Um, and this is not like a Shot down at the eagles like the cheese are historically good based on my numbers The eagles best team in the nsc by my numbers after that 49ers game Um, they earned this. I'm sure you can talk about the schedule, which is justified Um, you know, if if herds were fully healthy, maybe it's different story where I'm maybe Well, that's high in the chiefs, but I think It's not a a downward shot at the eagles say that I love the cheese I just respect for how insane they've been this year Um, and what they've done now the total is 50 and a half You said you have interest here in the over at that number What pushes you that direction ryan? Well, the the only reason I have interest in that number gym is because I do like the chief side of things and You know close game kind of probably Favors the the eagles I would say Um, probably probably not at the tune of of 50 and a half But you know if we were looking at like a 47 ish 48 number I I think that would definitely favor in the eagles fashion But yes, if the points are going to be scored here And in bunches, I and I'm taking the chiefs I'm willing to say that yeah if it gets to a shootout point the chiefs are probably went in that game And that's where I could see it, you know The I think most people would say if jail and herds has to go out there and throw for 250 and And two or something to the tune of that and the run game is not going Then it's probably because they're playing from behind and the chiefs are you know rolling on our cylinders So that's where I come in on the on the total there Would you have interest in tying those together? If you put the chiefs money line at plus 104 with over 50 and a half at minus 115 and do a same game parley on those You get plus 252 at vandal sports book I I think that that's fair Given that I like the money line personally I think I would go just the money line by myself rather than Time the two together. What would you do here, Ryan? Would you want to do each bed individually? Do you want to parley them together? How are you handling that if you like both those bets individually? Yeah, I was gonna see here real quickly. You might have more access to it than I do But I would probably at that point just because of the odds would look at an alt spread for kansas city Sure So if you go and flip it where it's, you know, you think maybe you think the chiefs win by the last second fuel goal or whatever So you take the chiefs minus two and a half or minus three with the total at 50 and a half That's probably going to be your best bet where you can get more favorable odds probably closer to the four to one five to one range So let's check out. I think let's go chiefs minus two and a half. We don't want to give up the fuel goal there That's plus 116 instead of getting it where It plus 116 versus the money line at plus 104 so you're getting a little bit better odds there And then with the over at one fifth or at 50 and a half if we do those together to 63 Not a huge difference I'm surprised it's at once. I mean that just goes to show you how vegas is priced. They're right because that's that's They know Right, exactly. That's what you okay. So these are what these are what people are going to be thinking about doing To to get it in their favor. So no, that's fair. Yeah, that's That's kind of one of those things you you probably don't want to take them Together you just take it separate and hope that you know the one city In if it is the under then so be it but right. Yeah, that would be the only I think from a from a personal standpoint in my mind, you know, mine versus heart Like I just would love to see points scored in this game because we have we have had a couple duds Over the past couple years. So we we deserve it. We deserve it We we deserve this as far as what my number say with this one I talked about this last week, but when I run my numbers with no injury adjustment for the cheese I had the total of 51 and a half So above this but the injury adjustments the first round had a 40.9 or 49.97 So that said when it was at 49 and a half, so that was about right And I couldn't get to an over here, but I did adjust them back up again with a bit with Tony and Smith Schuster practicing. It's a 50.38 for me right now. So very fair 51 is a massive key number though. So if you get this if this number hits 51 at vandal That's where I'm like, no, I'm not touching that. I think that 50 and a half, you know, totally fair 51 is a really big number so With it still being under that it is minus 115 in the over I think that there is still room to go there if you want to but If it gets to 51 that's where to me it becomes a True true stay away If it does get there Okay. Now while we got to your ride, let's talk about some other props if you got any you talked a bit about Miles sanders his rushing prop that rushing prop the attempt prop over 13 and a half is plus 102 right now Is that one that you like any other props you're looking at for this game? Yeah, that's a fun prop. I think uh, I actually Have a future on kelsey to win mvp I believe at 28. Yeah, because it's it's it's been 16, right? So yeah, I think it's at 28 to one is what I got it at even at 16. I think that's interesting. I think what's really even more Crazy when you think about it is the path of kelsey to win mvp, right? So we're definitely about multiple scores Which two touchdowns for him is plus four 60 on the vandal sports book when you get into three touchdowns for him Though now we're cooking with gas So kelsey to score Three touchdowns and to go if you go the alt line with him hitting 100 yards because that's just What you're thinking kelsey just absolutely gets all the production dominates the game based on what the injury report Is saying for the kansas city chiefs or even even if those guys are somewhat healthy The path to success is going to be with with kelsey that gets you at um 50 around 52 on That number Which is which is absolutely incredible So that's one that I was kind of playing around with but not only you get the mvp there at 16 to 1 but When you parlay that you know, yeah, you see it there Probably 10 to 1 there with uh the two touchdowns and the alternate line But when you get the three touchdowns then it even skyrockets even more So that's a fun one that I was looking at and you know you just try and talk yourselves into to pass Right. I think that the quarterbacks both being at plus 130 Is fair, you know, I've more more be willing to take that with mahomes And I know this has been talked about a couple of different places But I do think that the jaylon hurts at plus 130 does feel kind of trappy because there are like you could probably see A hassan retic like at 34 to 1 right you could probably talk yourself in the mild standards at 25 to 1 if he has a similar game to when he's going 102 off the rip and jaylon hurts is kind of having a pedestrian game as Like we've seen the past couple. They just don't need him to win So that's one that i'm kind of staying away from I did talk about game while rushing and receiving He said on that four out of five games where the number is right now I do think michael Or michael marcos valda scantling to score an anytime touchdown. It was plus 195 the last time I saw that I I do have interest in that And then the other one that I'll quickly Touch on jim that isn't a player prop is kansas city to be the first half winner is plus 102 And if you are taking the chiefs, I think you might as well just go ahead and take this bet as well because When the eagles are up at half They have been killing it all all season long that that's why you Mention the numbers with jaylon hurts and not having to throw that much so The path to success is that you're saying that kansas city just really comes out here and tries to punch the eagles in the mouth And then the eagles are playing catch up which jaylon hurts has not had to do most if not all the season So I think taking the kansas city chiefs here at plus 102 has some value to it Yeah, I think that that is is smart because um, it does give you Just kind of an extra bit of safety if you want to put that back in the second half Don't chase losses obviously, but if you want to have some more fun, you can do that as well Plus 102 the number on that going back to the gain well one, uh, the rushing plus receiving. I was in the wrong tab They're like 16,000 tabs for super bowl. So that's the wrong tab, but as rushing plus receiving is 32 and a half um I took his rushing number when it was 16 and a half last week. I believe earlier this week It's 19 and a half now. I think if I'm betting him now I would go this way like you said 32 and a half rushing plus receiving I think that's a much better number than the rushing by itself. I think that that's that's that's correct and also like If you think about paths, we both like the chiefs in this game If the chiefs get ahead Gain well is more likely to be on the field than mild sanders in that script So I think that those bets actually do kind of correlate. They mesh well together So I think that that actually makes sense with the way we see the game playing out as well So I do like that any dumb bets for you, right? Any anthem half time anything like that? Or are you being smarter with your money then? You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna miss what what the line is and I was just scrolling through last night as as I usually do before I Talk with Jim just to make sure I'm not missing anything The dumb bet I would say that I do like is the gatorade color Yeah, so lots of traction has been made on yellow because that's what they got siriani with I think on the way to the super bowler earlier this season sometime That's been floating around on social media Orange because the chiefs had that with andy reed the last time that they won and then blue was usually always the favorite Clear and water is plus a thousand and I do think that there's some merit to that because We kind of see we you know, I just feel like Maybe there's no gatorade on the on the sideline It's it's not the dumb one where you're saying none. I hate when people take none But I I do think there's some merit to like clear or water Here being in arizona. I don't know. I just it's just one of those dumb bets that I'm willing to take a chance on From the gatorade color. So I do I do think that is fun What flavor is clear? Like what flavor is that? Like like like glacier frost or glacier frost. Okay. I've been out of a gatorade game for too long. Yeah, I'm just making up names What flavor of caprice done is that I don't pacific surfer, you know, they just throw that sounds right that that sounds Also caprice on is better than nothing, you know, not to scare away sponsors, but caprice on's better Exactly exactly. We can get a light on the sideline. Maybe we'll do that instead that that could be Yeah, um, so that that's one that I was thinking of off the rip the other one that I kind of tossed around with I have not bet yet and and maybe I don't ever But mvs to win super bowl mvp If we if we do get some weird stuff happening, right? And you think about the game that he kind of had last week Um, when you're looking at him, what? Yes, uh, 60 to one 60 to one. Yes. Thank you for bringing that up Chad Henney is a hundred Right I mean, but that's like when you're looking I mean if we're just taking it from what it is and like what the offensive pieces are for the cheese I I I understand where you're coming from from chaco Standpoint as well too because he could end up, you know, hitting the rushing number and then catching Maybe he catches a touchdown or two off the shovel pass from my homes. That's an interesting one But like mvs like he take he house calls one, you know on it on a deep ball And then he's getting the 100 yards and Kelsey doesn't find the end zone and this is a low scoring game like the chiefs won 17 to 14 And if mvs has the two scores there, it's it's so hard for you to really It's so hard for me. I should say to talk myself into a way that They are on that stage and Patrick my homes is not voicing the lombardi like it's just, you know Patriots win Tampa Bay wins like tom brady just is getting that trophy Regardless of what james white does or element does or chris godwin does so But you know the only other merit I think it is is Kelsey because so much of the offense can go through him But that was another like stupid one where I was like, well, he could be like the second Best receiver on this team. So why not at 60 to 1 take a shot So I mean we talk about it all the time with guys like this on the the monday shows we would do But like you want to go you with volatile wide receivers You're more tempted by like the the volatile markets than the stable ones like a yardage overrunner for mvs I have no interest. I want to go with you mentioned touchdown score. That's a volatile market. That's good MVP as volatile as it can be. That's great two plus touchdowns stuff like that Otherwise stay away. I think that that is that's a correct correct way to go Maybe separate bets on the under under the baseline yardage and then over 100 yards, whatever it may be. I think that he's the kind of wide receiver if it's emerald for sure Anything else for you right? Thank you for talking me in for probably laying this bet. I appreciate that Which one are you more likely to do the clear slash water or mvs mvp? mvs mvp rolls up the tongue mvs mvp does roll off the tongue I probably will lay the clear clear slash water for sure Just so I have action in some market that does not relate to the actual game being played itself But I also got a look at the rihanna Rihanna lines here for for the songs too. Yeah, that's that's a fun one to get after So I do want to make sure I partake in that I was talking with those About those with joe on monday and I went on like a rihanna binge on spotify after that So it was it was actually beneficial for me. Um, so I was you know, it helped it made my monday better So there are lots of positives of talking about all this stuff You know if i'm not going to bet it myself I can at least benefit and listen to good music Alrighty ryan, that's all we got here for today and this year talking football But I appreciate you swinging by throughout all this time breaking stuff down with us Maybe we'll get you on talks and then it felt draft at some point. Maybe absolutely But uh, I'd be happy to have you on once again, but uh, good luck to you super old Thanks for coming on this entire year and have fun on sunday Yeah, jim. Thanks for having me. It's been a pleasure. Shout out to everybody Who's been following uh following along with cts covering the spread? It's it's been a wild ride. So I appreciate you and good luck in the super bowl be smart with that money But make sure this is the biggest betting day of the year. Uh, so if you're going to go crazy with some bets This is the time to throw down on it. Enjoy that and we'll see what the fun commercials bring While we're waiting at our super bowl parties and super bowl endeavors. So talk to you soon jim. Thanks man Yeah, go crazy responsibly Hopefully grok makes that feel cool and you can get some uh, some bonus money in there as well Be a fan dual sportsbook. 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