 It's a unique hustle big shit big shit big shit it's a unique hustle nigga big shit big shit big shit name another podcast like we're gonna bring it to the table boss talk check check check it it's a unique hustle you should boy e ceo and I'm here with the lovely incredible mr. Mako what's going on nothing my dad walk on hey man hey we a god didn't drop the bomb on me I know say man you hear a man yeah man you never been watching him he worked it is you can't be denied the man and put it a bmf I know hey man this dude here not only that the nigga really really created a whole nother pop wave to be honest with you for me I seen it man the boy a man I love this cat man Zayn in the middle of the baby hey man good to be here man are you feeling me man hey man I feel real good man now that you hear a boss talk man what a boss is talking thank you man hey man we've been going up man yeah I never seen it coming I'm like dang man we first got this place I when we first got the ball you know we've been in 15 year but the whole little setup I was just doing it saying I'm gonna bring some people in but did my nigga D map from out of Atlanta shout out D map he designed for 8732 in the clothing brands back so Jewel house for boo see yeah he called me say man he thank you man you did hey man you I love what you're doing for the culture I got it has his own way of doing things man so what you think man one thing and God has another plan in store man he's always on time right check it man oh we want to know a little bit about you growing up where you from your household you sibling things we want to get all in that business man let's get into it man we're growing up you know born in Yonkers New York what you don't have that New York accent Atlanta for a minute though you know all my family from Yonkers New York though how old were you when you left um I was young like probably like four okay yeah I understand Atlanta move to Atlanta like three or four my mom pops my mom and pops been together for like what going on I think this day 40th anniversary 35 35 we trying to get there we're trying to get there we gonna get there all right you know so I'm right with you know saying came from a household with both you know it's a weird story with me you know I'm saying like it's a weird story coming you know shout out shout out you know saying to my to my pops you know Sam and mom's like I came from like you know family where you know the posses there miles is there you know I'm saying and I had siblings you know how many siblings I got three other siblings I'm the oldest of four wow and so so up so always been like the person that just like that everybody looked up got everything first like got the ass whooping furthest had to go through the BS first you know and um and always that's what made me who I am no cuz it's like I always had to share you know some of my brothers and sisters so it made me like not a hater like someone that's I get to shut up my back you know how much older are you then and your siblings um like two years older than my two years older than one under you then I got one I'm like four years older than five years older than and then I got a sister I'm like six years and all of you raised in the same household yeah yeah okay you know I mean so um you know we grew up in the day always they always born in in Atlanta okay you know so me I was born in Yonkers New York moved to Atlanta when I was like four did your parents ever tell you why moved to Atlanta out of anywhere else just why Atlanta yeah um we were um actually you know my dad started like you know he was hustling out there and I think it was a shootout or something like we was in a shootout of some my brothers it was like I don't really remember it like that but we didn't shoot out in the park or someone and they found me up like laid over my brother you know so that from that day they was just like it was time to pack up I think like they told me we they moved like the next day so so boom that happened shootout we moved to Atlanta and then from like you know five until I was probably like 21 I lived in Atlanta doing music went to school in Atlanta raising Atlanta elementary junior high you know high school so Atlanta's like where if someone asked me where I'm from it's like Atlanta's where I'm from how old were you when you found a love for music oh man love for music first song I ever learned was before I let go my Frankie Beverly man yeah before I let go Frankie Beverly in Mays Whitney Houston my mom all those songs and classic songs my mom used to play while she was cleaning up or something that's how I grew up on music so Frankie Beverly in Mays Whitney Houston Bobby Brown so she had a love for music not your dad as much yeah my mom and my dad like just really they none of them did mute my dad right store oh I think I get my poetry from like my dad because he my dad got over like 10,000 points you know so he was a writer for sure I got my name from Zane Gray to the writer Zane Gray okay yeah so I think I think names are important very important my grandma name my dad at the Zane Gray I mean at the Zane you know the writer he ended up being a writer you know not a professional writer but like if it's funerals or anything they're like yo big Zane right and he's big Zane like that's my that's not my stage name like little Zane is really like if you had if you was if you had if you was your dad's name Larry you know I mean you Larry you Larry junior so they call you little Larry yeah I'm lucky yeah like no matter how your dad still alive I know he passed away but I'm still I'm still looking when I see we could relate that but hold on but you've told me when I tell him I say you still you junior he's like no I'm not junior no more I'm senior now because I am senior but I'm still like that I feel like that a lot of people say well you don't say you little Zane why change your name boom boom but I'm like you know stage name for me like in my house you got to say like big Zane little Zane you got to say one of those cuz both of us come down and now I have a son named Zane so he's a third no he's baby Z so I change he doesn't have the same exact he he's Zane Jeremiah Copeland okay that's the adult yeah I'm saying Rudolph Copeland I got I got the fucked up I wasn't trying to do that did you ever get teased about that middle name did I oh my god every Christmas come around this little thing that shit that's crazy so you know I changed my son name of just so you have his own identity you know so but growing up people always so I ain't change your name whatever it's like I feel like you was like big Zane is till he pat till if some Lord forbid some I don't really feel comfortable saying oh big Zane how much money I got how much shit I did you always little E I'm always be looking and I respected him to the day and I respect my dad to play with that like I never with it yeah no cursing no I respect my own play like and he passed away but still I know that you know I did what I supposed to do man I can sleep at night I mean that's real man like and that's the fun you said that could mean my pops ain't really seen out of our right now like you know I went there with mine to years but it ain't too late but yeah but I lately I've been reaching out and stuff like he just had a birthday on Thanksgiving so I just been reaching out cuz like life is so short videos you know I'm saying you don't want to get that call or you know I'm saying you just like damn I shoulda yeah boom boom boom and like you said we got so much respect for him it's like how can you say you got so much respect for him and still I had to even when they wrong dog I feel like I feel like my dog wrong sometime but I'd be like just cuz I have so much respect it's like damn I gotta you know how dad is like that they gonna call us bro no cuz they got that pride they got that pride like they know they was there for that's right they know that was there I broke my leg in my dad still didn't even come to the hospital we haven't spoken a year in something and I was hurt behind that my stepdad was at the hospital I was like dude where my dad at I was really pissed but I knew we wasn't seeing out I when it had happened but at the end of the day he eventually came to see me but they you know they they got this thing that you do disrespect to the God yeah yeah especially when they know they've been there for exactly no matter what I did what I said that's it I was there fucking 20 how was you now nigga I'm still there I was there when you was born Wow that's the part where you you forget cuz you what you can't remember that Wow but they was there but I would but I would think too because y'all are now fathers you know you gonna be that person that down the line where you had to deal with your child and your child gonna be thinking the same thing that you're thinking right now yeah yeah it's crazy it's it's a you know yeah and no because you know it's a lot of things I would do different you know some of my kids did my dad did with me too not saying yeah but I thought the same way but my son yeah he was mad at me on a couple of things he didn't say it yeah but then somebody else come back like yeah he on like he don't see how he quiet but yeah he ain't too much feeling that such such such so I think you don't get around those blows you could try but it's just something to where it's gonna be those time but those are the times that you grow in yeah that relationship is growing when you go through those stages and then it's like being that being a father to us like you know now when we discipline our kids or whatever it hurt us more yeah yeah so it's like damn like he was I thought he was being the worst but he's probably he's probably doing it's probably it's probably hurt him more than it hurt so now having kids I realized that like you know I screaming my kids some time over they put on punishment and two minutes later I'm like which I want from the store yeah yeah let me give you an example of something that I went through with my mom like you know growing up you know how like for me personally I used to always say that I wish that she would say I'm proud of you because I would never get that but I get all the love the hugs I love you all of that but I just wanted to hear that so as I got older I'm like why have why you never told me that well for her her mom never told her she loved her so she overcompensated with that for me so you didn't get something from your dad you're gonna overcompensate for your child with that but there's always something that's lagging that that child is gonna be like but he didn't do this yeah no matter what no matter what yeah no matter what that's the crazy and then you learn that you know parents ain't perfect parents ain't perfect nobody's perfect nobody's perfect but as a kid you wanted you think you know you think it is yes but then you just learn like growing up it's like sometimes my son be doing some things and I'd be like y'all I was doing that like he'll tell you that your son yeah so yeah shout out the pops are all the real dads cuz they don't we don't get enough credit man no we don't and we get bunk a gift for father's day I get it man yeah they be hating on us they love their mama or even though you do everything you can you could tell my little girl love me though thank you no wrong you know what I don't want to hear that we are we got a dain in here man yeah so so how did you end up on a BMF the how did you end up dealing with a 50 on that it's just been a long journey man just um you know I went on a couple auditions you know in Tasha called me well my agent called me and was like we got this audition for you I didn't know what it was at the time and we sent it to me I saw was a BMF I went into it like I didn't really even think I was gonna get it I ain't gonna be I ain't even gonna hold you like I was just like I ain't gonna get this shit and I just went in there kind of did it like you know like I didn't care about it but I guess the park called for that yeah the park called for somebody with an so it's like literally like usually when I do audition I might do it like three four times and sit there and look at it pick the best one but this one I just did it that one time was just like I send it like really like me you talking oh so it's a video audition you know it wasn't in person you know I mean it wasn't an in person taping and that's another thing too man sometimes you know I think when you go in the in person it'd be nervous of course cuz somebody really just reading it to you like you all into it like you like yeah and they're just like this so what did you do yesterday but they that's their job to just be straight playing that's right and you still got it and that energy everything right and you're trying to read their emotion and they're not showing any so when you do the self tape it's kind of like a little different because you're not expecting it so you just you know I mean self tape you already mentally like okay it's just me when you naturally if you in the room and we're giving each other we're feeding off each other you want that feed on yeah yeah I don't think I was doing too good with and I don't do too good in person yeah yeah you like you like that yeah you like the ones that you have to say I think I do not you know I ain't gonna take I'm gonna take that back cuz I booked before but what I want to say is it's better to me that self tape is like because you got a chance to do it a couple times it's in the best one I think that's the fairest but when you get in you might have a bad first you might have a bad day right before you got an audition so now that affects your in-person audition but you don't know what they're looking for just like you said you know you went in with this don't care attitude and you didn't realize that that's what we're looking for winning with a don't care attitude that's what I was looking for about two weeks later I heard back okay you want you want stand by I was like all right cool to stand by me my agents like just stand by so you can't really plan nothing else you shit coming in you just like okay I can't really do nothing in another week went by so about for about three weeks you know it was just that did he get it boom boom so finally they calls like you shoot on this day boom boom and it was just crazy like so but I worked with Tasha about about two three years before I did BMF on a movie called Winner when love kills okay and I had a small part in I was a little DJ in it and but she said that one line I was in the corner like practicing it like it was the last line the only line I ever had in life she was like he over there practicing that one line and basically you know the work ethic she was just like I knew I wanted to work with you on something else so BMF came up then my little you know my little one two woman audition so I guess when they came across the table just timing timing I like it man I think that's that's dope I really I really like the way that you you working you're working he think of we here acting classes when nobody looking at classes watching a lot of movies watching a lot of I'm a movie kind of sore like I love watching films but it's hard for me to just watch a movie because I'm looking at the moment you're looking at the different things you know because I want to be the best I'm watching the Denzel's I'm watching I study Denzel I study do you imitate their accents and stuff like that um you know one thing about me I can I can imitate almost any accent I think since a kid that been like my gift like if I hear something enough that's the best accent that you can I mean how I can't really say I just know like I can get on the phone and do some don't do you want like you want to give me you know but my man be saying it's racist sometimes look at your make a story I'm talking to me at Brezhren Brezhren what's up Brezhren my youth my youth but you know it's just with me it's like I love people man I love people I love culture you know I'm saying I love different cultures so it don't be me trying to be funny I'm really just trying to embrace it like China these people might say like you know I'm going up watching Chinese flicks I'm saying when I try to talk like I'm I wasn't trying to be raised I was trying to like yo this is cool to me like I'm one of them kids that mad cuz I don't know know how to speak a language like I always tell people I told my kids other day I was like you don't do nothing learn a language for me like just learn a language for me I'm just pick one and learn it yeah you know my kids is Spanish they mix with Spanish I need to learn a language because really it's important and I'm like if that's something I could do all over again I would have took a language in school because you go across the world and like people be speaking these languages and you be like damn I really don't you know saying and I I could understand Jamaican more that's why certain places I go like the Caribbean it's Caribbean I love that broken accent in English so it's so it's easier for me to relate when I get around Caribbean people or Jamaican it's like you know I feel like somewhere down my line of my culture I was a little Caribbean kid I love the water I love the beach I love the ganja I love to grow my hair out I just feel like somewhere down the line I was a little island boy. So what I wanted to know is okay so two years before BMF you did a small film so did you audition for anything in between that and BMF coming up? Man I auditioned for so many films like you know I got to the point where I got tired audition you know because sometimes you keep hearing them nose nose nose nose or not you don't hit nothing at all it'll really be you hear it no you just don't hear back at all so it's like you know it gets discouraged and it gets you know it gets to the point where you're like yo like I need to start messing with your self esteem you know I said but you can't let it so to counteract that I just started working on my own projects I was like yo they ain't gonna give me that that next role I got to create it you know so I started really I quit going on auditions for about a year he'll tell you he was calling me to go on auditions I'm like he like they didn't say I'm moving I want to do it I don't want to discourage I ain't not yet discouraged but also just tired of hearing to know or not hearing nothing at all once I set my mind to like okay I'm not doing no more auditions for the next year because it's gonna force me to just go hard on me so it was more like I had already had a my mindset like I'm gonna create my next move you know they're not gonna give it to me I'm gonna create my next move so I went in went in hibernation I wrote like 20 different scripts movie scripts TV scripts game shows reality shows and I was just calling him every day right calling him every day like yo I got this he like yo that's crazy I'm meeting with different producers and they're liking the ideas and I'm like I'm starting writing for artists I'm like you know what I might not I might not be on the main screen again it might have I might have to God might be telling me be behind the scenes because I still got this passion to do music and film but a lot of people would think oh you had your chance already you was out there boom boom boom so I was just like whatever you do just stay creative stay working like stay writing like if you nobody's gonna give you a part you're gonna write your next part so I wrote this film called I wrote this TV show called almost out and I got to the point where I was having the table meetings I had the investors I had the locations I'm like I'm finna shoot me a TV show it's like my version of power it's like power meets dinner thieves you know I'm saying like so I got 50 people together the actors everything he's there you know saying so and then gotta do it to you once God seen I was ready and I'm full flesh about to go make all these hella mistakes I know about to make a bunch of mistakes I'm playing with people money I'm finna make a bunch of mistakes but that's the only way you know it was my way of these are new mistakes though so then right I had scheduled to shoot January 15th and I got a call on January 1st that we were shooting on the 21st so I had to push that means I had to go back and tell 50 people like look you're shooting on the 15th I don't know when we shooting but it's by the time we shoot it's we're gonna be bigger than life you know I'm saying though by the time we shoot this BMF they should be so big that we could walk this in anywhere yeah yeah you know I'm saying right now I'm just going off for just the old little thing what I did yeah hey I wrote this they might they might get to the table and they be like okay we like it but one of you such as such as this so and I'm open to all that because at this point I'm like I'm not knowing if I'm finna be in the front on the back I'm but I'm in the long as I'm in the room I mean you feel me sir I always had that that long as I'm in the room if I ain't number one I'm gonna be part of whoever number one yeah and then you can create you can create opportunity in the room yeah yeah so you as long as you in the room exactly I was on I was on look at God though what I was thinking about it when you're saying all of that is that you've had the money to do all up to do your project but this came up so by you doing this you learn a lot more about the business yeah correct yes that you can now turn around implemented into your because I was about to go make a lot of mistakes I was about to make a lot the fun mistakes but it was gonna be a lot of mistakes cuz I never did it so now I'm writing a TV show and I get a call to be in a TV show on a TV show and not only is on a TV shows a true story as you know kind of know this gonna be the biggest TV show in the world I know how much of it I was in I thought I was only supposed to be in one episode yeah how did y'all how did y'all how did they how did they spend it off and I just kept from that one day I went in there you know that one episode might take seven days to shoot so I guess just seeing us for seven days and the writers like yo these dudes actually funny like like like on set it just became just organic like okay we're gonna write them in the scene we're gonna write them in episode 2 2 I put them in episode 3 3 you know say that's just it wasn't playing I was on the set or is he at this point I hadn't seen yeah and see 50 I didn't seen 50 to like episode 7 oh really yeah I didn't see 50 to like episode 7 which is understandable because he was moving around and and they had a lot of COVID protocols to be turned up 50 be all over so they was like man that dude man come on now that's how I knew they meant business because even though it's his show they was like nigga even you can't come on a set you get COVID tested in or you just came from Houston you need to sit out 10 days before you come around yeah yeah so before he did his episode he really had to stay away from everybody for course today so you know it was crazy how is it working with that did you ever think you'd be working with 50 I know you work with puff and did I called it in 2005 right in 2005 when 50 came out I looked at my man because me and my man be best friends for a while yeah and I said yo 50 gonna be the one bring me back Wow I told him that 2005 I said yo 50 gonna be one bring me back bro and he said that cuz he was a cancer I was a cancer I didn't know how I thought I was gonna meet him we's gonna do some music I didn't I had no idea that's how God do it music shit in my cousin my cousins was cool with 50 like they part of like his little like you know he got his real security but then he got you know his street security to like so my cousins is like his little his little street niggas in so every time they would do security for him they would just see he would see me just with them kind of like in the background so I know he like but I never would be like a 50 put me on for that I just be chillin just chillin the gangsters in a cut in a cut so as though when all that play out you know I'm saying the TV show there is I'm I don't know if it had anything to do with it but it's like I know how I know how cancerous thinking we see you enough and we feel like okay he cool it's like yo put my nigga in there I seen my nigga around yeah yeah cuz he would have seen you and been like all right let that shit let that shit bitch I rule something like you know if it's someone him fuck with it's like you would have so just get in the go I'm like damn okay yeah yeah big dog but I in my heart I always take my cousin cuz I'm like I believe everything play a part every small thing play I think him seeing me with you guys and you know Tasha seeing me put in the work on the set that it was like okay I know he out here like that so he could pull it off on some games of shit it ain't fake for me be out with the gangsters but then on other side is he a real actor to he gonna he gonna put in that work to he gonna be in the corner practicing so boom now now the streets in the talent meet preparation equals opportunity me success hey you know I'm saying so when you when you said in 2005 so there was a time where you felt like I gotta get back up on my like like early on you had a deal right with yeah and it wasn't a good deal it was a horrible horrible I'm gonna say was a horrible but it opened doors you know I'm gonna say I'm gonna say was a horrible deal like you know for me is just you just signed the damn paper then you say I ain't ain't gonna even say I just signed the paper but it was just more like I didn't understand the power I had okay okay I think I can dig it cuz you had you constantly had somebody over you that knew you gonna have that power like okay QC in them right yeah yeah they tell a little baby they tell a little baby you that nigga doll you got the power you you could go change everything I had a nigga over me that didn't want me to know I had that power yeah he wanted that power so if he seen me getting closer that power it's like oh shut him down so no no no he doing too much man you know I'm saying so you got to have is like everybody around me had a real old G around you know I'm saying you had you know even podcast show you show that I had your main for show Nelly had cooler for show you know I'm saying I thought you wouldn't work with Jermaine I don't know why my mind is crazy cuz Jermaine and the nigga I was working with hated each other that's crazy so it was like the niggas I wanted to fuck with I couldn't even cuz the blessings is already blocked because this nigga has so many problems already you know you roll with the people you roll with yeah so it's like to me I was young I wasn't at the time I wasn't on all that but growing up I learned like you watch a man and really fucking me like that yeah but you know we did the hardball together stuff like that so you know shout to Jermaine to shout the ball all I'm like you know I felt like there was things that could have been done to make that happen even more but um you know you got two people that's from a whole different decade because I think it's like the nigga I was where it has stole some a song or something from Jermaine back in the day or something so it was going deeper and further than I was even it was going deeper and further than I was doing man we you know we so in control but so out of control at the same time it's really God I keep hearing it but everything you do is already it's already written bro you know anytime anytime I tell nothing's about questioning it's just like it's already written because I always wonder why I didn't do this more but then you learn and if you learn later it's like oh they they been had yeah yeah yeah that would have never happened you know I hear the stories even with Jermaine the pre talk about when when puff got into it with sugar and he was he was in them you know they was at his place and all this you heard it was you know exactly so it make you like damn you know like what you know like you don't never know what's going on behind the scene right yeah you've seen that being that you've been in you've been around a long time yeah how hard I mean how was it a depressing thing cuz I've had people on here and I won't say the name cuz I'm gonna let them live but that that used to have it going on yeah and then all of a sudden bam they lose it everything like like nobody's checking for him no more you know what wait a minute and when I see him they they you could tell that it's a depressive state it put them in the way they can't figure it out you know it's easy it's easy to get stuck in that mode as an artist you know I just refuse to let myself get there you know where I'm coming from right no no it's it's I know Zach what you're saying it's like you be up for so long or you be in a great position then things don't stop going to write the start but stop going away you correct going and it's like you could see it in the dude you could see it in a face it's not the same yeah I think maybe for like maybe like a year or two I might have had that maybe I remember feeling like that I remember I remember feeling like people could just look at you and feel like damn this nigga is not doing too well you know I'm saying mentally cuz you just but I don't feel like I just was trying to figure it out you know I'm saying I was trying to figure it out but one thing I was always honest with myself I'm like yo I ain't got this shit figured out yet I knew all the answers I'll be every I'll be you still giving yourself room to grow yeah and I always say that some people think they already arrived and all this other stuff you know and and and they lose it because they can't really figure it out cuz you really were never where you needed to be no way but in your mind you thought you made it exactly you know it's so much more to it man it's a chemistry I always tell people the people that I've met in those rooms needed to be there and you could tell they was supposed to be there you see what I'm saying like the room don't operate the way that a lot of people would think from the outside looking right and that's how I feel like now it's like I'm supposed to be in that room yeah there it is like before if I had to question it it's like y'all want to be in that room right now if I wasn't supposed to be in yeah I feel like you know you come a time when you know okay this is supposed to be done do you do you when you when I look at I heard that you was a toddler creator of somebody you had issues with or not really I never met up with that let's talk about now I never break that down yo I'm all into the beef they already you know I would buy it I'm gonna be honest I'm gonna be honest I'm gonna be honest a little bit I'm probably the only artist in the game that really ain't never had beef with me like well then why why why they say what was that about mention my name late is this you're running listen from the question you see run now that's a none of you said beef I really never had beef with nobody like I think that is just I think it's just like I got one of I got one of them situations where you know people just know my situation people know like you know they ain't bigger than life bro like my personality always been bigger than my records been bigger than any movie I could do like my soul my spirit is just when you walk in a room it's just you know I'm saying like Jay Z don't have to say nothing when you walk in that room you just feel it and that's what I always you know pride myself on just like I don't gotta say a word when I walk in you gonna feel that God you gonna feel that energy so sometimes when you when you got that and you possessed that people just take shots I get it I get it listen all these people to ever mention me they never met me in their life I get it but I'm like a I'm like a myth to them like I they've been hearing me so long and they like yo why am I still here in this nigga name 20 years late like well a while you know I'm saying for a minute people's probably like yo how did the biggest name in the world just disappeared like just go away for a minute but you got to remember like nobody made me disappear I step back yeah I step back start reading it's important that you have well I ask you how important is it to have self-awareness of who you are that's what that's why I step back I see now that's why I said that I seen it going in the way I seen it going in the direction where I'm like sooner or later it's gonna crash you know I'm saying because the paperwork and write everything and write your spirit ain't right you're going through a lot of you got a lot of unnecessary people around you so sometimes you got to disappear from and lay low and clear and clear the air yeah I'm saying it's important and you know something I was gonna say and sometimes when you taking taking a break or when you recouping you know you can't be in everybody grill people gonna start rumors they're gonna fall off or oh he doing this or hanging around you just like okay like you you just know you learning you know it's like he's like when you start going to church you you you've been thugging all your life and you start going to church it's like people still gonna remember you as the thug they're not knowing the reform you going through they're not knowing they're not seeing you go to Bible school you know there's a church every Sunday Bible like you trying to change but sometimes you can't change overnight in front of people that's true you know I just wanted you're not doing it for people doing it for you I wanted something different I just knew like okay people always try to say you sound like Tupac or Charles say like everything I saw me in records they trying to take the credit away so I say you know what I'm gonna disappear for a minute get on my writing game I'm gonna get better at writing I'm gonna switch my style up I'm gonna start singing on me cuz I'm gonna start singing rapping like you know I'm saying I'm a I'm a my acting roles I'm gonna start you know get with the best acting coach I got the same acting coach as Michael B. Jordan you know same yeah that's dope the same lawyers is Kanye the same lawyers same lawyers you know I'm saying that boy working but that's what you do like I had to like just figure it out you know what have you learned being on the set of BMF compared to what you didn't know before like what we're talking about earlier what is it that you learn just watch it 50 stay working you know I said it's important ain't it he got 16 17 shows on right now so it's like I'm like how does man sleep when do this man sleep and I'm like that anybody that know me no I don't sleep I don't sleep like I'm one artist that you know I'm really a rock star like I'm being humble right now in this kid I'm being humble in front of y'all like I'm a rock star bro anybody to hang out with me no I'm a rock star sleep two three hours a day cat naps we don't say we don't sleep take cat naps you know I'm saying you don't be a room you and look how I look like I'm 22 21 22 yeah it's like I'm built different you know I'm saying in my gang and tell you and I ain't bragging I'm gonna talk about playing I'm built different bro different bro so I get it like I built I'm built different bro I like man I like it because you got to push yourself you know most people think you really he being arrogant or some no I gotta push myself cuz I'm trying to go to a whole another level with what I think with me people know it's not even arrogant like they see my struggle they see my hustle they see me go from duh duh to duh yeah yeah so it's like I ain't got it I just look at niggas say you know me dog don't don't you know better than count me out dog I pop up on something number one you know saying who's been the most influential to you like for you during this whole process I think the most fluent most influential person through this whole process has been my kids man okay because like I'm trying to leave this legacy and I can't I gotta change the narrative I had to take control the narrative cuz I cuz my kids was getting to the point where they were going to school and you know the internet is crazy and I didn't want people to just say yo remember your dad your days to do is whatever happened to him or whatever happened your days and he's a nobody so that drive was like knowing that yo these my kids gonna grow up and people gonna know about their dad now when they Google and they go two years ago was like oh your dad fell off a boom boom now they go to school and they like niggas can't stay away from like yo your dad don't be a man so it's like my man my thing was always leaving the legacy and changing that narrative like no matter what I do I'm gonna make sure that you know when they grow up and you know when they say my name like it's my name is good out here my whole drive did the pop comparison did it help your career did it did it hurt you I think I think it helped me you know I'm saying time you compare to the greatest you know I mean you compare to the greatest it helped you when the Kobe not want to get compared to Georgia I get it I get it you know I'm saying when you when you when your idols become your rivals you know I'm saying yeah Park was alive we've been battling yeah yeah yeah you know I'm saying like I'm the type person yeah I'm I'm gonna give you a props you know I'm saying yeah you JZ but when I get in the room I'm trying to take your head off now it's like we competitive with it you know I mean DMX rest in peace like when I met DMX we battled for two hours in my room because I told him I said bro you I'm the next one I don't know what you talking about you know is it they kept telling me about DMX so this guy's gonna it's like 96 97 like but I'm in my hood I'm rapping I'm number one in my hood so my man lock bring DMX to my neighborhood cuz he had always been talking about I'm like yo whenever you bring him around here just let him know I'm gonna eat his face you know his head rest in peace we went down like that we battle we battle for two we had battle for two hours in my room and he was like yo you're nice kid you know you're nice son but give you two years you be ready I said two years crazy nigga ready now nigga fuck you mean two years or it is 97 99 that anywhere shit dropped oh dang yeah he was right he was right he said two years you be ready but magic drop I'm ready right now what you mean don't like I just read two hours with you back and forth but he was just like two years you be ready in rest in peace of DMX told the truth he was right man and that's that's ain't this something but people don't know that man but those are things that like make me who I am now that I know I battled DMX foot and I wouldn't say about me right like yeah I wouldn't say battle like this in each other's more like you kick around my kick around you kick around my kick around all my neighborhood friends is there they like yo like I'm telling this story I'm telling the story in this 13 people are still allowed to say y'all was there y'all need to record it man nobody had no phone back I was only I was only like the big phone bro I was like 16 I know I know I heard the you you said it was 16 it's like 96 97 ain't nobody had you barely had all this stuff that everybody get at me dog out yeah one song yeah you know me but he was bigger than life and you knew he was finna be the next one but here I go so what a little ball while and all those guys man I know you dealt with them come up around the same time yeah same circles man so I mean you felt like okay when you see it was anybody like oh yeah he doing he running making his run right now for to make my run or how did you how did you I'm talking about in the rap game you know I'm saying you know what I always um I always just like the way that they did you know saying like I just like the fact that you know saying how he had that Jermaine shit yeah that was dope that was dope you know I'm saying that's all that's one thing I always knew when I respected about them it's how they just kept that whole thing yeah you know I'm saying and I'm with me was never like that though man I'm you just go for what you know my hater bro I'm so confident what I do bro I get that I just you know I just you know I would see them congratulate them you know so maybe maybe sometime I will seem standoffish because I'm so like a I'm an introvert I'm like I'm like I'm the coolest person you walk up to me but I like my space so I might not come up to you like yo yo let's get in the studio boom boom cuz nigga do that shit to me all the time too I like I like it it naturally happens so a lot of these artists I feel like before he may probably thought I'll standoffish because you know I'm just I'm letting you have your space nigga you know I'm saying like but now it's like I'm a little bit more different now I see a nigga I'm like what's up nigga skin it's getting a laugh nigga cuz just so I know I said it so I know I said it yeah nigga say let's go right now let's go right now but at least you know you said before I'm like damn I never know if it was gonna be cool cuz I didn't say nothing damn so no no no one intimidates you don't want to intimidate me it's just more like I'm so humble that I'm like yeah I'm not gonna bother him while he's eating I'm not gonna bother him while he's eating I'm not gonna bother him while he's but now I'm just like yo bro it's good dog now it's just not this time around is just like you know not missing that opportunity and just you know and just knowing that you know close mouth don't get fed you know so what's next for Lil Zane man what's next you gonna get some more music people don't know man be I got listen man music shit is crazy listen listen man so when you drop I got I got two singles all right now I got 325 out 325 a.m. new video I got a single car rolly out about to drop this new single car bad vibes I've been dropping hella videos like the back did you start working more when you seen the BMF thing like I people are looking for always kept doing music like every day my dropping like videos and all I was dropping music you was already doing that since like you know I feel like it's just I always been dropping music since like 2017 I just really start dropping music crazy but I'm I knew the BMF was probably gonna pick it up yes yes so um you know but I got over you know 5,000 songs recorded man I I've been recording songs every day since you know 2000 bro you know I mean I never stopped recording like one thing I did I never stopped recording like no matter how many years I didn't put out no album I went to studio damn every day so it's so you can only imagine how much music I have um last night I performed at the scene the pop-up new music I did all new music I did a lot of acapella he left I should have came I know you're gonna be doing all that I just showed up but the question that she asked her what's next for me um you know I got a TV show that I'm that I'm executive producing and starring in this called um it's called dead serious I miss a zombie show okay about zombies like zombies this does self-aware self-aware zombies they know they're dead they talk shit slick talk itself zombie so um it's like a it's like a um you know a walking dead meets zombie land meet shawna the dead type shit it's a horror comedy TV show you know I'm saying pitching it to like showtime HBO shit like that so you know I'm working on that right now that's I'm really excited about that we just shot the pilot for that mm-hmm and um that's that's me being on that 50 shit you know I'm saying shout out to 50 man because I respect them so much like being on that BMF set it just motivated me like I'm like yo this nigga run this whole shit I didn't write my character off any day you know I'm saying thank God he not you know I'm saying I'm saying 50 won't do that can suck you that big even I said but like you know but it just gave me that sense like yo even him when he do his when he do can he write himself in a little bit but he the EP you know I'm saying so it just gave me that drive like yo I'm gonna take this little thing they give me and I'm gonna I'm gonna take this fish they give me how can I just create a whole a whole my own empire my own universe you know I'm saying that power is a universe he got power we got this so I'm just watching the blue the blueprint you know I'm learning like everybody else but I'm watching my nigga and I'm just like yo I want that man so I need to know your top three artists of all time that a lot any genre I would say I would say 50 pot 50 pot and ice cube that was quick that was quick he was quick with it because ice cube got the film in the television he don't you got the film in the television yeah and pocket the film in the television a the best bro you did your thing on that pic quick to be quick with it I always want iced tea like I like people like that LL people that just do what I do they took over the TV and the music you know I'm saying if you go back and talk to the younger you man and and you went back and you had a conversation with yourself and you could give yourself some advice what would it be if I can go back to the young talk about about 16 I go back to the younger me and give myself the advice I would say focus stay focused stay focused you know saying stay focused I'm more focused than ever now you stay focused easy as a young artist to get unfocused bro you got that you got the women you got the money you got the drugs you got the crew stay focused and go for it and go for stay focus and go for it like that's one of the main things I feel like artists we end up in jail we end up there we end up you know saying just stay focused like stays you know stay in that studio stay in that studio stay you know stay focused I gotta ask you about young Dolph but I want to do it in a way to where it really ain't about him indirectly really just the way you move as an artist now now yeah because of the way you see it not just him but it's a cloud of smoke over all the a lot of artists is dying whether it be gun violence or however it may happen how does that affect you mentally for seeing them and how does it affect the way you move definitely um just make you think for the future man you know I'm saying um I own my masters now that's dope I'm working on rerecording my first album over so I could remaster it and own those masters to my first album so the fans could start going to buy that just really thinking about owning my masters I'm changing my everyday habits you know I'm saying like changing your everyday habits you know the things we used to love to do unfortunately we in a position now to where you know we on TV is things going people people hate you for no reason so you got to change your mood you got to change your daily habits you know I'm saying if I used to go I used to go to the same gym every day I start changing I go to another gym I might draw 30 minutes out the way to go to a gym now just to just to change the habit you know I'm saying like when I'm leaving the club I'm watching you know of course bought more pistols you know I'm saying like I ain't gonna catch you for real cat with you bought more pistols you know Sam um but then you know just change your habits cuz you had a thing on you and still get oh you can still get it you know change your habits um and like I said man stand that's do it artists just get restless sometime you know Sam we want to just go out and I gotta do something and chill your ass at home nigga that's it in the studio bro that's it studio like keep yourself so busy that you ain't got time for the streets no so I'm so busy bro ain't got like I've been in the streets for the last 15 years the reason why I'm here right now is cuz I've been in the streets I even I wasn't on TV I stayed active like I was out here in the streets I'm in the clubs in niggas face like that's why I'm here now now it's like to point one just like yo get out the streets stay at the studio I try to stay so big I'm on a set I'm in the studio try to stay out the streets bro because ain't nothing in the streets man you want to get back bro and you want to be all in the streets I'm giving back but it's like stay out the street man it's right at your doorstep you know usually happen in your own city do you agree with the fact that it's tough to stay in your own city I think I asked the rest of time that didn't it should you move out of your city when you get to blowing and going or should you stay in your city and what should you do I mean you know what I'm from Atlanta I still live in Atlanta but I moved out of Atlanta okay if you think about it might be true like I you know I was born and raised in Atlanta but I lived in Cali for eight years okay Miami for five years I did move around yeah so so then I gave my city time to miss me that's it niggas they know my moves every day you know I'm saying so I might agree on that oh I might agree on that like you know yeah some boosie say that that's that's why I hear that coming from like yeah you know it's like well Jesus a prophet's not without honor in his own country like you just you gonna get that that hate people that you want to go to other cities bigger than what you love you know me like Atlanta everybody used to seeing people so for sure you know you'll never get the money in Atlanta that you'll get in Alabama or you're getting cuz we so used to seeing people it's like you know we see future in the club all the time we see Doug like in the club all the time so you know but when you go to them different cities they go crazy yeah cuz they're not used to it yeah so so so man man hey man look here man I didn't enjoy this you know made my day man thank you bro man you know I'm getting old I need all this you know I'm saying hey we need it say man I look when you in town or from an ATL or if I'm in Cali wherever I'm at and we decide hey man we're gonna leave we're gonna leave so man thank you so much for coming on the show thank you for having me this is like boss talk for real yeah yeah hey hey little same been on boss talk one-on-one y'all we having a good time oh man check it I'm having me too say man how can people get a hold to you which you know social media man Lil Zane's world you know saying Facebook Lil Zane Twitter Lil Zane you know social media Lil Zane's world though man look me up check it man yeah hey man we love you man it's been another way segment of boss talk one-on-one and we have