 so that many of us are familiar with and it's all perfectly normal you know we live in a fast world we're constantly bombarded with technology and the pace is very fast around us so all these issues are becoming more and more common well you can heal your body and mind using perhaps the most natural and ancient tradition which was originally used by royalty to heal rest and recharge the body and if I told you it was resting with bees I'm sure you'd be at the very least interested bee beds are a thing and this is where you rest or you sleep on top of bee hives and the bees mind you don't have access to your room so you can rest in peace there and you can rest in peace while you're resting with the bees so anyhow the the two men behind it are Paul O'Neill who's native of Kerry and Anton Tovornitsky who's from Ukraine it's Valencia bed bees so you'll have a bit of a jaunt to get to experience this but I'm delighted that Paul and Anton now have joined us online and on zoom good afternoon gentlemen hello now that's um let's talk a little bit about this this idea because it's just the notion of going in and lying down on top of like thousands of bees it just would be too much for most people but the first thing to stress I suppose is that it is a hundred percent safe because bees don't get near you and you don't come into direct contact with them yeah you might be a bit at risk as you're walking down because there might be maybe half a million bees there around the area but we do we cover our clients up as they walk down they'll be covered in a bee suit and then when they step into the room and we close the door and there's absolutely no bees in there so you're safe inside the room so the only risk is on your way in and once you're in there there's no bees other than what's below you yeah exactly now all that separates below you and we have two beds in there underneath each bed there are four beehives you could average maybe about 50 000 bees per beehive and um so that's about 200 000 bees under each bed so there's quite a allowed home and there's quite a beautiful smell because all the air is coming through the entrances of the beehives and through the vents and into the room and the bees are generating heat there's a lot going on and really excites the sense senses and it's really it's kind of like a form of meditation too but as you said it's not it's not a new concept but it's just long forgotten and we're trying to bring it to the people and show them the healing properties of nature and in particular bees and bee products so there's there's a lot going on there's the this sensation the the feeling there's the the smell and the noise and you know you know and i'm hoping you'll describe it a bit more but it's very hard until you probably experience it for yourself it is it's a it's even hard to describe but we're getting so much interest from all around the world actually and we had a guy there in there yesterday from Austria who came over especially to do this because this this is the force of its kind in Ireland and probably a lot of western Europe and it happened kind of because of a random meeting of myself and Anton when he came here a year ago as a refugee from the Ukraine Anton's a beekeeper I met him he was just I'm in we're in Valencia island so we're in the most remote location off the southwest coast of Kerry and one day I was out beekeeping and this random family starts walking by and he starts waving to me and Anton had no real English at the time but we kind of communicated through the bees because we're both beekeepers and a year later now Anton's English is pretty good and about four months ago he came to me and he told me about this idea and we started looking into it and he kind of said right we're going to bring this we're going to be the first people to do this in Ireland that we're going to bring it to the people and we did it and it's up and running now and Anton's English has improved so it's all good Anton as a beekeeper have you had experience of bee beds at home in Ukraine? Actually myself I was inside in a few different like bee houses but I never sleep there but I was also in a big room like it was made with a lot of bee hives inside and it started to be common in Ukraine maybe 15 years ago and people developed this and now we can find like this house with two beds and it's pretty cool. So it would be more common in Ukraine? Yeah yeah it's very common in Ukraine and people often like to go there and some people just for interest but a lot of people want to go there like for healing because it's like heal people also I research internet in Ukraine sources and I found that the beekeepers live longer 10-15 years and this bee house it's helped to to involve people in beekeeping life. Yeah well so so beekeepers themselves are living proof of the the benefits of keeping bees and I presume eating honey and maybe you're relaxing down again in a bee bed. Yeah there's a bit there's the honey and there's the bee beds and there's a lot of research going on over the US with people with PTSD lying and sitting on bee hives and it's yeah there's a lot of research that it will start to come out in the future maybe we're thinking the future of medicine might be a lot to do with vibration and frequency but myself and Anton were we're also developing and selling other products from the hive one in particular which is very popular is propolis and propolis is like bee glue so the bees collect propolis from all the trees and they use it for patching up cracks in the hive and they basically glue everything together with this propolis but propolis is like the most natural antibiotic and very safe and natural to use and very like has a lot of really cool properties anti-cancer properties and that's also what we're trying to bring to people. And in what form would you take that? We make our own tincture which is mixed with 65% alcohol and you would put 10 to 15 drops into a small bit of water and yeah it heals and there's a lot of things that can benefit. So given that the bee beds are a new concept like most people come along they're trying it for the first time and what's your reaction been like you know is it one of a surprise of shock of you know delight? It's been mixed we've had everyone's happy but we've had euphoria we've had feelings of floating we've had crying it's just been so positive and it's just when you walk into that room there is an energy that's indescribable and there's an uplifting feeling and when you lie there for an hour it's just like recharging the body. And how can people find out more? You have a presence online a website I presume? Yeah you can check out islandorganics.ie forward slash bee beds no that's organics within X so before the bee beds I just I set up island organics and it's mainly kind of selling plants and microgreens and things like that but now the new part of my business now with Anton is Valencia bee beds so it's island organics forward slash bee beds and we're all over social media if you want to find us. Okay so plenty on offer there and Anton it sounds like an oasis of calm down there in Valencia and down in the little corner that you guys occupy at the moment so a big contrast to back home in Ukraine. I didn't catch. How are you finding kind of settling into this new place as opposed to Ukraine? It's okay you know this place like similar where I'm from and I like nature I like mountains I like everything feel like this and I was here one year and I thought what I have to do I like to do something like my own and just this idea come to me in my head and I went straight away to the call because I remember he's beekeeper and he knows this that this will be good. You know it's it's the novel aspect that's going to first of all attract a lot of people's attention and then it's just a matter of after that trying it out and I can I can see all the the write-ups now in the travel supplements and and all the reviews so I wish you both the very best with it. Thank you and if people aren't afraid of kind of using the website and things taking contact us directly on 087170045. Okay now there's a spot on and that is Valencia bee beds and I know it's a bit of a trek to get from here to there but you know if people are traveling in that part of the world or having a staycation or whatever it is it might be it might be definitely worth checking out Paul and Anton. Thank you so much. Thank you.