 We can win this war. We can win this war? Okay, well joining us from Orlando, Florida is the man in that clip, Anthony Dream Johnson, who says he wants to abolish feminism and make women great again. No, but it also says with the trademark, make women great again. Always great. Make women great again. They're going to do a three-day seminar for women led by all men. In mansplaining news, a three-day conference for women led by men hopes to make women great again. How the 22 convention will make you the greatest you ever. Raise your femininity by 500%. First of all, how is a man supposed to tell a woman how to be the ultimate woman? A woman needs to be taught how to be great again, not my words. Like how to land a husband. How to lose weight. How to pump out a bunch of kids. Why do men think they need to fix the problems of women? Well, it says the world's ultimate event for women. In Orlando, Florida, that's going to be the scene of the crime. It's mansplaining palooza and say no to the toxic bullying feminist dogma. Taught by men to make women great again. Taking the stage now is the founder of the 22 convention you're in for a treat, Mr. Anthony Dream Johnson. Anthony Dream Johnson. Anthony Dream Johnson. The first president of the Manosphere. It's run by all men, which promises to quote, make women great again. This course is guaranteed to raise your femininity by 500%. Together, we will make women great again. Excuse me, I'm mansplaining here. She said there's nothing wrong. Welcome to the 22 convention. The first one that's part of the 21 summit in Orlando, Florida. The year 2020, I am happy to introduce to you one of my favorite speakers of this convention. He's going to introduce himself, his background, his credentials, and why he's here. I was a big fan of him probably a couple years ago. And I knew that he was going to end up on the stage here. Put your hands together for Pastor Michael Foster. Good afternoon, ladies. I'm privileged to be here. Why am I here? I'll tell you some more in a second. But my wife, I told her this thing was happening and she said, you should go speak at 22. As long as you bring me back a hat, make sure it's a blue one. So the first thing I did when I got here is I got one of the make women great again blue hats. And I'm really happy to be with you guys. I am a father, a husband, a pastor. I'm a Presbyterian pastor getting ready to plan a church on the east side of Cincinnati. I've been married to my wife for just shy of 18 years. We started dating in high school and God has blessed us with eight children. And so it's a busy household and it's always fun. And I want to get right into the main reason I'm speaking to women today and why I actually even care about this topic. And it goes back to about 10 years ago when I was in the kitchen. We were living in Bloomington, Indiana. And we lived in a small apartment at the time. We had our first three kids, so boys, Hudson, Athanasius, and Cademan. And my wife was pregnant with a girl. And a girl is a big deal in my family. There's about 17 cousins on my dad's side. And I think three of them are girls. So all our swimmers are males. And I didn't ever think we would get a girl, right? But Emily was pregnant with my daughter, Nicaea. We are just like two weeks away from having this baby. And it was very exciting. We do home births. We're like some of those weird people that like to have the baby at home where all the germs are our germs instead of deadly germs elsewhere. So we're prepping for the home birth. And our midwife, Gay, was over there. And what I heard her say in the other room, because we were getting ready to go to the Monroe County Fair, right? Going to get on Ferris wheels and eat alfinears and have a good time. And so we're all rushing around, trying to get ready for this and trying to fit in this midwife visit at the same time. So Gay has the Doppler on my wife's stomach and what I hear her say is where's the heartbeat, right? That's the first thing I hear. And I'm like, come again. So I walk out of the kitchen and I say, what are you talking about? And, well, we're having trouble finding the heartbeat, right? So they're moving their Doppler around on the belly with the jelly and all that stuff, trying to find that, you know? And they can't find the heartbeat. So maybe it's the Doppler, right? But it's not looking good. But it's got to be the Doppler. You know, my wife, we've had all our kids at home. She's a very healthy, strong woman, good genes. She drinks wine at night and eats a sleeve of Oreos and doesn't get fat until it's going to destroy you eventually. So she's starting to stop that. So we all get everyone into the minivan and we drive over to our backup doctor to go in and have a closer look. And we walk in and they look and I see she's dead. Her heart has stopped in the middle of the night. I don't even know why, what caused it. And so I walk outside and I just, you know, howl, right? Scream. Because now it's my job as a husband and father to be the one that people can depend on because Emily was in a state of shock, a state that she would stay in for a long time. And so we go to the hospital and my wife has to give birth to a corpse, to a dead body. That's how it works. And so we had, we debated whether or not we would wait for the baby to come out naturally or we would actually induce. We decided induce to move through this pain. And so we do that and a couple hours later my daughter is born dead. She comes out and she's white and she's covered in blood and she looks identical to my wife, identical. You know, this was this crowning moment, right? A daughter. After three sons, I love my sons. Every boy's a great, but a daughter, right? To have a daughter. A daughter looks just like my wife. I love my wife. I want to replicate her into the world, send more women like her out. And here she is, dead. Little version of her, right? It was crushing. It was crushing to us. But it was even more eye-opening because the background of this is that when we got pregnant with Cade men, it was, that's my third son. I was like, hey, you know, be fruitful and multiply. But man, the harvest is coming. These are our whole seasons. These are a lot of kids real quick. And as a man, I was scared, can I take care of these kids? Can I provide for them? It's not just money, but can I father them well? And I was feeling my shortcomings. I didn't grow up a Christian. I didn't grow up in a healthy family. I grew up in a broken family. And the idea of taking care of these kids, it was a huge responsibility. And it wasn't that I wanted to totally be done with kids, but I wanted us to space it out a little bit. My wife, though, she wanted to have more kids. And I had done this deep study on birth control and the history of the doctrine of birth control and what does the church teach? And if you want to dive into it deep, the church has been against it the whole time. It wasn't until the 1930s that they started to allow any form. But that's neither here nor there. I had become convicted that we should not salt our fields, that we should have sex and let it be fruitful sex. And so I finally like, you know, I'm like, yeah, let's keep having babies. I'll take care of all your babies. You can trust me. And we get pregnant with this little girl and she dies. And that's God reminding me that he opens and closes the womb. It's very, very easy to get complacent and to assume things, right? You can assume that you can always have kids. You always hear this with young couples that they, you know, they're scared like, hey, we don't want to start having kids. I mean, if we have a kid every year, by the time we die, we'll have 5,000 kids, right? They just think like babies are easy to make, right? But they're not, right? It's like a lot of people have all sorts of difficulties and it was a huge rebuke to me that I took kids for granted. Now, what would you think? Now, do you think that would make us not want to have any more kids? It was so scarring. Not at all, right? Like when you realize something like that's that precious, it can be stolen from you in a moment, it makes you want to have more. And this wasn't the plan, but we got pregnant just a couple of months later. So we had what you call iris twins, right? We had two kids in 12 months. And in that pregnancy, that pregnancy was difficult because we were always scared, right? My wife was very scared. But then there she was, golly. A little girl, right? A little sweet girl at home. She's just like Emily. She's got my blonde hair, but she's got everything else from Emily. So it's like a win. And it was very healing to us. And I have since had two more daughters, Cedar and Cyrene. And so I have eight children, one in heaven, four boys and three girls. And I'm very invested in women. I married one. I love her. I think she's great. I have three daughters. I'm very concerned about the men they're going to marry and the sort of mothers and wives they're going to be to my son-in-law as my future grandchildren, concerned for my sons that they would find a godly woman that would compliment them and build them up. And that's one of the reasons I'm here, okay? That's why I'm talking to women. That's why I want to encourage you and your femininity. And I want to encourage you because in the same way that I took kids for granted, we have an entire culture that's taking femininity and in particular motherhood for granted. And the reason is, it's very simple. It's because feminism is the water we drink and the air we breathe. It's built into everything. And so it's kind of hard to see it at first, but then when you start to actually understand, you know, feminists, oh, I thought feminism was just about being pro-women. No, people were pro-women for a long time. People have loved their mothers since there was mothers, okay? People love women. Women weren't always oppressed under all these different patriarchs. That's just not true. Anyone that's actually read history, I studied history in college, got a couple of degrees. This is like truth. Like, we know how women were treated and women have been rulers of countries. And with Xenophon, he wrote a book, which is a household code. It's a real ancient, here's how you run your house, like an early self-help book. And then he said, without my wife, I would die. And I was like, oh, but it's not romantic. Like, he literally meant it. That her and his life were so essential to surviving and doing well. Without his wife, they would die, right? Without water, without shelter, without food. Without his wife, they would die. And women have been precious for a long, long time. And you have a current narrative trying to tell you that's not true to so bitterness, to so hatred, and to convince you that motherhood is not a good thing. It's somehow lower. And I want to tell you that feminism is ultimately anti-feminine. It's trying to get women to be like men. Your power is that you're not me, right? People say, oh, my wife's my better half. I don't say that, right? And also people say, oh, do you have a feminine side? I don't, right? I have a feminine side like a dog has a feline side, right? Unless we're talking about my wife, right? My wife is my feminine half. She's my feminine side, and I need her. My household needs femininity. My sons need a mother. My daughters need a mother. And I need her to fulfill the command that God's given me to build a household for his glory. It takes two. When in Genesis it says it's not good for a man to be alone, we reinterpret that through the idea of like a soulmate, or like a woman completes a man or a man completes a woman. That's not what it's talking about. The context is that God has told the whole human race, you can go look at Genesis 128, to be fruitful and multiply, to rule and reign, to subdue the earth. That's the command. And then he puts Adam in the garden, and then he gives the command to Adam. And then Adam looks at all these animals. He's like, yeah, these animals can carry things or whatever, but it's not, none of them are equal to him. None of them complement him. And so God gives him a helpmate. Gives him a woman to fulfill that commandment, to build a household for God's glory. And in that sense, that's the sense that we complete each other. There's nothing lacking in a woman. She is a woman. There's nothing lacking in a man. But if they're going to build a home, a family together, we need both, right? Children needs father, mother. We need each other in that sense. And that's very important. That's the context. And so feminism is against that. And feminism is ultimately anti-mother, is what I call it. One of my favorite books to read. I like to read a lot of radical feminists. I love them. I do just so honest. It's refreshing. When I read Christian feminists or a bunch of liars, it's very difficult. So it's like, I always prefer honest pagan over dishonest Christian. So one of my favorite ones is the dialectic of sex by Shulmaith Firestone. And Firestone is like the crazy second waiver out of the feminists. But she's just honest is all she was. And Firestone, this is what she says in her, in the book, The Dialectic of Sex, page 72 for anyone online. The heart of women's oppression is her child bearing and child rearing roles. So she goes on and she proposes a sexless future, like a sort of a brave new world sort of scenario where babies are grown in artificial wombs. And she was treated as like the craziest of that group. But guess what? She wasn't crazy. She's just very consistent and straightforward. If you read Frieden and all the other ones, you'll catch the same ideas there a little more subtle. But Frieden really wanted women out of the home. She thought the home was this drudgery to escape. So she creates this whole myth of, you know, this is like all the housewives are depressed in the 50s. And I don't actually think the 50s housewife, I'll get to this, is ideal. But that idea there was like this mass depression and the women weren't happy. That's something that Frieden just sowed again, discontent. But she wasn't crazy. She just had the gift of vision. She knew what it would take to realize a truly feminist future. The destruction of what makes women unique. What makes them feminine. They have to become more like a man. And so some people would say, well, no, Firestone really is crazy. Well, there's a 2007 paper called The Moral Imperative for Ectogenesis. You know, just light reading. Just something, you know, kicking back around the fireside. So I read it and it was interesting. What is ectogenesis? Ectogenesis is the artificial womb technology. And there's a paper in Real Clear Science. There's a bioethicist, Sasha Isaac, and she writes that technology could have important social benefits for women. So what are these social benefits for women? Well, it's anything outside of motherhood. She goes on and says, if fetuses were to develop in artificial wombs, women would finally be free to pursue their interests and desires outside of their reproductive duties. Finally free from what? Free from motherhood. It's anti-motherhood. And just last year there was a journalist on Naomi Shawlet and she wrote an article entitled, Shulamite Firestone, Why the Radical Feminist Who Wanted to Abolish Pregnancy Remains Relevant. So why is she still relevant? Anyone want to take a guess? You can actually say, why is Shulamite Firestone still relevant to feminists today? Any guesses? Yeah, it's abortion. It's abortion. Modern America is built on a foundation of dead babies. Shawlet explains, her work resonates with the principles of the reproductive justice movement, which demands the right, not only to end an unwanted pregnancy, kill a human being, right? But also to parent under conditions that allow both children and parents to flourish. In other words, feminism, what it really does, it's basically androgyny. So it reduces manhood and womanhood down to roles, and then divorces the roles away from a nature and then makes them interchangeable, where someone can take on the feminine role or the masculine role. And that's what it, someone asked, someone asked this question about transgenderism at one of the early ones. That is something they share in common, is that they're ultimately androgynous in their assumptions about the nature of human anthropology. So, and this she ends with, what makes her book, this being Firestone's book, worth returning to is its central recognition that the capacity to become pregnant is the ground upon which much abuse and inequality still operates. And that addressing this will require society to rethink in radical ways. Yeah, it is radical to depart from nature. It is radical to go against God's design. So, anti-motherhood was, it remains an essential component of the feminist vision of the world. It's just some feminist or more honest and consistent than others. Now, feminism hides the reality. This is the main reality they hide, is that motherhood has a due date, right? It's possible for it to evaporate quicker than you ever expect. And it's a clock that runs down as each cycle happens for a woman. When a woman's born, she has a set number of eggs. And the world says, that's no biggie, right? It's no regrets if that happens, but that's a lie. That's an obvious lie. Right now, it's incredible that you can build it like me. I've built a small Twitter account, it's coming up on 10,000. I basically say, it's just common sense things, right? If Jordan Peterson wrote a book, he's like, make your bed, it changes the world. And that's common sense things are really hitting people hard because we live in a society committed to deception and lying about basic facts. And so when people hear basic facts, it revolutionizes their life. And so the idea that you're not going to regret not being a mother, that's a deception, it's a lie. I'm sure there's some sort of exceptional woman that's going to say, oh, I don't want to be a mother. You're damaged, right? Something's wrong, right? Just for a man that doesn't want to be a father. I'd say the same thing to men that way. This is what we're made by God to do. Everything in a woman's nature pushes her towards this end and to repress it requires intense social conditioning. And that's what we're going through right now. And this happens with two key lies. One, motherhood isn't normative. And two, even if it is, you can delay its pursuit without repercussion. And so, well, motherhood's normative. Well, what about the infertile people? What about them? Oh, yeah. What about the people with stillborn daughters that die? Right? Yeah, bad things happen. But those things are tragedies. That's not normal. We're not trying to normalize those things. When a woman is infertile, the reason you get all up in arms about it is obvious. It's because you don't want to be infertile. Because you're missing out on something. It's like something that's colorblind. Right? Like, you can still have a life. You can still go on. But there are certain shades of things that you will never experience. You know, I will not get to walk and I see a down the aisle. It's not happening. Right? She's dead. I don't know what her hair will look like. Gal's hair is getting all wavy. She's got my juice stuff going on. But I won't know that. And on Mother Day's sermons, we preach about the goodness of motherhood because we lost a daughter and we felt how precious it was. And you always have these people saying like, that, oh, you shouldn't talk about how good motherhood is because of people that have miscarriages or still births or infertile. Quite the opposite. Right? We should talk about how precious it is because how easy it can be stolen from you and lost. And how hard we work to protect our children. It's very important. It's normative. And if you do, if you do not pursue it, there will be repercussions. And these are two lies that we stew in from the earliest of ages in America. Women are pushed towards careers constantly. The vocation of, well, let me tell you about this. So if you haven't figured this out yet, I'm very conservative. I'm an orthodox, Presbyterian, subscribed to the Westminster Standards. You can look up what it is. That's like a 1600s doctrine. I believe it all. I believe all the Bible. Every last words in Eric. I'm not ashamed of one bit of it. I believe the only way anyone can be saved is through Jesus Christ. Right? He's the way, the truth, and life. And no one comes to the Father and says, I believe all that stuff. Patriarchal. Patriarchy is inevitable. You'll never escape it. I'll talk about it more in a moment. I believe all that stuff. That's the church background I've been in. So you would think, careerism wouldn't sneak in there. But my wife was teaching a girls group with some other women. And so basically, she would teach a session and her mother would teach another session and her mother would teach another session. One of the sessions was on what do you want to be when you grow up? And no one talked about the goodness of motherhood there at all. And these women, these are otherwise good women. And that's like we absorb this stuff, osmosis. Right? Like you don't even know how feministic you are. It's just like men, they don't understand how weak they are. You know, I see these guys talking about, oh, I wish I was lived in the 1700s. Dude, you would die. Give me a break. I don't know who you're, what you're kidding. I'm super glad I'm in 2020. Okay? I know it's a rough time, but I like AC and I like automatic weapons. I think I stand a slight chance. You know, I would just have to outrun Elliot. Right? Like throw something in his eyes and ah. But yeah. So even in that group, they were pushing women towards careers and the vocational wife and mother is ignored, derided, or treated as an optional add-on after years of a fulfilling career. Right? And you just add it on. And worse yet, they have taught them to compete with men. Right? You can do whatever a man can do. Right? Can you go downstairs when there's a bump in the middle of the night? Like that would be the one advantage of having a feminist wife. Like hey, sounds like there's a prowler outside. Will you go take care of that while I sleep? You know, so. But I don't think that's, they're inconsistent at that point. You can be an astronaut, a fireman, a CEO. Look, see, here's some examples. Look, see their happy smiley faces. Look how happy they are. The idea that women ought to compliment a man is missing from our education entirely. So women follow the course that they've been set on. Women have been lied to. They have been lied to. I focus my websites. It's good to be a man.com. And started, it's been growing. It's been crazy. And women email me and pastors ask me like what to do about women. I focused on men because to me it seems like they're easier to fix because the deception with women is so intense. And I'm also here to push myself to get into this part of the conversation more. But you have been lied to at such a deep level and the system is really jacked up right now. And it's like Christmas lights all balled up. Like trying to get this thing out straight. It's going to be really hard. And so women do what they're told. They kick the can of marriage and family down the road so they can compete with men at the workplace. And why shouldn't they? Everyone tells them they'll be happy and they can add family on later. I've worked in corporate America. Women do really well in corporate America. I will tell you though, this is one of those things that's not in the notes. My experience with women in corporate America is they tend to take on a sort of mothering way or they are super brash masculine women. They're always challenging you. And I see women going into corporate America and into that sort of integrated workplace and it's causing them to change. And it doesn't surprise me that women are struggling with prescription drug abuse, alcoholism at record rates. And it's not at parity with the men. It's growing in both sexes, but women are outpacing them. And I think they're being thrown into a scenario that's not good for them that they don't really enjoy and always trying to unsex yourself. Like Hamlet's wife. It takes a toll on one psyche and I think it is a big time. But the feminine reality is really different than what everyone tells them, especially post 30, 35, 40, the older you get. It's very different than what they're telling and people are waking up. The ability to conceive drastically diminishes as women age. Moreover, the number of candidates for marriage like good men, they drastically decrease and the competition for those candidates go up because we all know that it's not normal for a guy to marry an older woman, a significantly older woman. It doesn't happen that often. It does, but it's an exceptional case. But a woman marrying an older man, even a drastically older man, is something we see quite often in our social circles. And so now you're not able to have children or it's getting harder to have children and you're finding a guy that you would even want to bear his baby. It's not great. As a pastor, I look at the church and I look at the woman and I'm like, you're not really as great as you think you are. And I look at the men though and I'm like, but you know, you're no prize either and it's a really difficult time. And that's the reality of what we're dealing with. The struggle to find a husband is real and can be bleak. And I told my mom that when she was considering my parents got divorced and much later in life, and I warned them about it. I said, you know, no one wants to marry you, right? Dad, no one wants to marry you and mom, no one wants to marry you. And no one's going to tell you that. And you're just going to see a lot of creepy people and it's going to be really, you know, because they're like at that point they're in their late 50s, okay? And I said it'd be better to try to work this out at this stage. But there's all these basically divorce porn is what it is. These movies where this woman, she's straddled down with some loser guy and she finally gets rid of him and she's got the career world and she finally gets the alpha male that likes it and it all works out somehow, right? There's a reason that's a movie, why that fantasy sells is because a lot of women are feeling that pain right now and recognizing how difficult it is to find a good man and have made choices that they're starting to regret and my mom's going through it and she admits to me that I was right and I don't take joy in that. I want my mom to be happy. Poor decisions were made and done so on the basis of the bleakness of the feminine situation must be explained away because it is too much to bear. Movies are made, books are written, sermons are preached, ministries are created, all to say that singleness is good. You're more than a mother. No regrets, don't worry, be happy. You're more than a mother, I always hear that. I'm always getting in trouble in church for attacking singleness, right? Singleness is a gift, no it's not. It's a state of life. Celebesi is a gift. Jesus talks about this in Matthew 19. Celebesi is the ability to be single and serve the God alone. So what if your social or sexual drive that would normally find its satisfaction in being married to the opposite sex for whatever reason God gifted you that that's not a big problem and you're able to serve the church. That's being celibate. If you want to be with the opposite sex you don't have to give to Celebesi, right? You're just single and that's a temporary state for most of us. But they always want to make single normative because the reality is that most evangelical churches are at least 60% or more female and a lot of them are divorced and a lot of them are single and when women are upset in the church it's kind of a high drama and it's very difficult. So these guys are trying to cool everything down not because they care deeply about your souls but because being stuck in the middle upset women is miserable, okay? And they don't have the guts to do it. They don't have the guts to deal with it. And so they create all these ministries and I did, you know, when I write this stuff on single motherhood and I have no hate against single mothers I want them to have the kids to have parents and then they get married but I do tell guys like hey be careful when you are considering marrying a single mother and I tweeted that out I had like 13,000 comments on it, right? USA Today, Rand Paul's advisors like complaining Allie Beth Stuckey's supposed to be a conservative they're all coming after me people trying to get me canceled at my job my employer thought was hilarious and it was intense I still have like 3,000 messages this is my DM telling me I should die so far I'm still alive so it's all right they've lost this battle it's been like I was hating on the women no I was just saying it's a broken relationship and before you move in and become a father to someone else's son you should understand what's the nature of the actual father does this woman really want to be with you or is she just really desperate for someone to bring protection to her and her child you should think through these things I tell the exact same thing to a woman considering marrying a man with a kid what happened but we can't say the truth we can't say the truth about the brokenness of family situations we can't talk about those things right now because it's the pains too much for people to bear and they're just like sticking their hands in the sand and the pastors are going along with it and they're just terrible and women will may parrot these lines but their nature is irrepressible in the Old Testament barrenness is never good barrenness is always good barrenness is a curse of punishment just go to biblegateway.com stick in the word barren stick in the word fruitful go look it up yourself find out see how it's used in context but fruitfulness is good and women love having babies it's a big part of their life so much so when Rachel sees Lea having all these kids she looks at Jacob and says give me children or I die but maybe you know the feeling you know Cyrene my last daughter she wasn't supposed to be here but my wife cried one night that we should have more babies and it got deep down on my soul and Cyrene's here but it wasn't just Rachel there's a great sadness even madness that falls upon women deprived of children it drove Sarah to say keep with my servant so that I may have a child by her my Sarah wanted a baby so much even through a surrogate relationship which is not good and you can think of Hannah if you go to the book of first Samuel Hannah's like oh give me a child she's weeping and she's praying that God would give her a child she says look if you give me a child I'll give him to you and that's where Samuel comes from and he's actually raised up by the priest and he gives them to the priest just so she could have a son there's one of my favorite lines in that Elkina's her husband and he sees her crying and he says to her aren't I enough for you and so she doesn't answer but here's no, no husband you're not women want children it's part of it and a woman deprived of children they can get really depressed and marriages can go really bad places that's why I always tell men it's not your child your dog like if we crashed on an island there's like my kid and there's like your dog and we're starting to starve I just eat your dog I eat your baby they're not children they're pets when you first get married I always tell people don't get a cat don't get a dog make love let it be fruitful have a child that's why you're being driven to have some little thing to take care of and it brings the marriage together well don't you want time to be yourself what does that even mean who else can you be that's stupid right that's an Instagram post but it's retarded man no you'll find out who you are by children okay it's a refiner's fire it will bring you and your wife closer together I always think Emily and I I think of like those trees that have grown around fences like fences going through the tree that's Emily and I we've been together so long we've had these kids we've gone through some pretty intense things and where she ends and I began and so forth we've grown together right start growing together as soon as you can embrace fulfillment it's good children are a gift they're wonderful it shouldn't surprise us again that alcohol abuse drug abuse mental illness is exploding among women women are unhappy and it's easy to see that they manage this happiness by medicating and just living in denial and it's the reality is hurtful and the pain is too much so feminism has lied feminism has failed it didn't lead to freedom it led to a prison and that's why we want to destroy it not because we don't like women because we love women that's why I hate feminism right it must we must get rid of it and that's why I'm willing to come to a conference like this and speak it's not my normal venue to say the least and anyone seeking to wake up women to help them to face the reality of their situation will be resisted and demonized right you know and the majority of the stuff I've heard here has been very positive towards women right it's been femininity has been held up high not diminished at all and God's design as laid out in scripture is the surest path the happiness marriage and motherhood are good men aren't the competition sex exists sex is exists to compliment each other so don't kick the can down the road embrace the goodness of your femininity right now and you can miss out you really can you don't want to do this so where do you start well how about this about proverbs 31 right someone brought it up earlier it's a very important chapter for women in the Bible but it's actually not written to women it says right the words of king Lemuel the oracle which his mother taught him right this is his mom telling the queen mother saying this is the sort of woman you want to get right and proverbs 31 actually has two women has two different women and the first one comes up in verse 3 she says to her son do not give your strength to women or your ways to which destroys kings and so this is the first woman I'll call her the consumer and the second one we'll call her the producer and there is a type of woman that is a predator right she is a consumer and the mother she knows these type of women and you women know these women are meaner than women than men are meaner than women at least in my experience this friend of mine in basketball practice he called me a name and I was like you wouldn't say that to my face and I did that because he was really big and I was smaller back then and I punched him in his face right and we actually weren't friends yet he's just a guy and we're like really good friends the next day guys this is how we sort out the hierarchy so then we have those three boys and we're trying to come up with girl names and I'm like what about this name I'm like I don't like the name well there's this girl like back in fourth grade I'm like fourth grade what are you talking about well there's this other girl like man chicks they hold grudges like for a long time and we just beat guys just beat the hell out of each other and then it's over but women across the woman they destroy each other that's the goal right it's intense and so this is that sort of woman that is a consumer you don't want to give your strength to her because it's throwing good money after bad it's pouring water into the desert right it's not going to come back to you at all the consumer is someone that saps the energy of the man she uses her sexuality to capture a fool and reorientates him to her mission she's a manager there's that old 80's song that I keep thinking of but you can go to Proverbs chapter 7 and describe what this woman's like and Solomon warns his son to avoid the man-eater and so does Solomon's wife and he says keep your way far from her where strangers will be filled with your strength and your hard-earned goods will go down to the house of an alien when your flesh and your body are consumed so the defining trait of the consumer is that she destroys households so Proverbs 2 18 for her house sinks down to death Proverbs 5 26 her house is the way to sheol or the place of death Proverbs 14 1 the wise woman builds her house but the foolish woman tears it down with her own hands have you known women like that that have destroyed their family have pulled it down can we admit that they exist can you admit that you could be that men can be bad men women can be horrible the fall, the sin that happened in the first the affected both sex, you're not little angels you're a sinner like me I don't need to make women worse we're all screwed without God's forgiveness we all have a sin nature and you see it manifests itself in terrible ways so this isn't about hating on women this is about being honest about the way sin manifests themselves in women differently than men we all have sin and it shows itself differently and the consumer will tear down a house what is she, she's a self-focused independent woman now think about why would a man want to enter into a relationship with someone that's going to be independent what is the nature of a marriage covenant isn't it for two to become one to join why would there be an independent that's not a good thing no one wants an independent woman that if you want to know how to be a man just follow the advice that they put in women's magazines right, like it's really good man advice, it's pretty crappy woman advice that's the truth and that's what brings me to what I think would be the clearest indicator of a consumer type of woman a bad woman and that she is loud, she's a loud woman she's, this is Proverbs 7 1 she is loud and stubborn and her feet do not stay at home this is the type of woman you must avoid becoming right that's the type of woman that will destroy a man this is from some commentary, a loud woman is not necessarily the one who speaks with too much volume the Hebrew word can be translated as boisterous or tumultrous, it speaks of turbulence or commotion, it's meant to bring to mind the roaring wind of a storm therein we find a good metaphor for a loud woman, she's like a storm she's full of unruly energy, she yields only to her own purposes the definition of a loud woman comes further in focus when we consider how loud and stubborn is periled with her feet do not stay at home, this woman in Proverbs 7 she has a husband and she's supposed to be submitted to his mission but he's away on work and she's calling another man saying hey my husband's away you know what she also does she also says hey I've made my offerings she talks about how spiritual and she is religious, I know better, I know a lot of the good Christian girls in our churches, I know what they're doing, I understand that a lot of women can be spiritual and religious and have terrible ethics and morals and be living in an ungodly way, it's very common actually and that's this woman too but she's very very loud Matthew Henry, he puts it this way under her place, not her own house she hates the confinement and employment of that, her feet abide not there any longer than needs must she is all for guiding abroad, changing place and company, now is she without in the country, under pretence of taking the air, now in the streets of the city, under pretence of seeing how the market goes, she is here and there and everywhere but the very place she should be she lies and wait at every corner and wake up such as she can make a pray of virtue is a penance to those whom home is a prison, powerful right the loud woman hates the home because the home represents submission to will besides her own therefore she prowls for a fool who will help her achieve her end comedy on Proverbs 7.10 verses prior to the one I quoted, there's a great commentary by Keele and Dillich and they say they explain the motives of this brazen type of woman she is of a hidden mind of a concealed nature for she feigns fidelity to her husband and flatters her paramours as her only beloved while in truth she loves none and each of them is to her only a means and end to the indulgence of her worldly sensual desires yeah women will use men to go on an adventure to have a good time to consume their resources Kanye's crazy sometimes but he was right about gold diggers they're a real thing they do exist no mother wants her son to marry a woman like this no mother wants a son to give his masculine strength to a woman that's just going to consume it and he'll get nothing back so she warns him this is the words of a woman warning your son, stay away from that I do that all the time with my kids the joggers in my neighborhood they should just run naked I don't know why they don't I don't understand is it like spray on or what's going on women that run around that way have no self-respect they're making themselves voyeuristic it's almost certainly showing that they have daddy issues I want you to look for a woman that has respect for herself in a modest way I have to warn my sons I warn my daughters too, they're little right now but I warn them as they age women can be predators don't be that sort of woman right so the consumer reduces her femininity down to mere sex essentially she transactalizes her bed to take from the man no matter what she promises she is a flatterer she's merely using the man for stuff and she is a gold digger very different this is a good woman so I want to read this to you now you're going to church, did ya? you are an excellent wife for her worth is far above jewels the heart of her husband trusts in her and he will have no lack of gain she does him good and not evil all the days of her life she looks for wool and flax and her works with her hands in delight she is like a merchant ships she brings her food from afar she rises also while it is still night and gives food to her household and portions to her maidens she considers a field and buys it from her earnings she plants a vineyard she girds herself with strength and makes her arms strong she senses that her gain is good her lamp does not go out at night she stretches out her hands to the distaff and her hands grasp the spindle she extends her hand to the poor and she stretches out her hands to the needy she is not afraid of the snow for her household for all her household are clothed with scarlet she makes coverings for herself for clothing is fine linen and purple her husband is known in the gates where he sits among the elders of the land she makes linen garments and sells them and supplies belts to the tradesmen strength and dignity are her clothing she smiles at the future she opens her mouth in wisdom and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue she looks well to the ways of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness her children rise up and bless her her husband also and he praises her saying many daughters have done nobly but you excel them all charm is deceitful beauty is vain but a woman who fears the Lord her the product of her hands and let her works praise her in the gates that is a good woman her femininity is mature she possesses both feminine virtues and skills I'll give you five real quick one hererity she is like a rare jewel she is rarer than a jewel she is very precious a lot of women don't choose this path maybe you didn't when you were younger still here still time you can slide in the home plate really hard a lot of women don't choose this way a lot of men don't choose being masculine being patriarchs being a worthy man it doesn't have to be you though it doesn't be the rare one be the exception in that way her trustworthiness the underlying theme of all life and all her work she can be depended on and a deceptive woman women because you don't deal with your conflict through fists you deal with it through your tongue through words and it's not that guys don't lie but the new testament paul is warning pastors about feminine sets of sins he always brings up gossip and slander and talk and you want to be a woman that people trust you want to be a woman that keeps your word that doesn't engage in gossip and slander it's really hard with social media we know a lot about people that you don't it's not your business man it's not your business who cares you want to be a trustworthy woman then the other thing is her industry this is a big one she is industrious this chick gets things done it says she works willingly she goes to great lengths she wakes up really early it's still night this woman is working very hard I don't think of women sitting around doing little tasks women can do great things she gets all sorts of things done she manages her time well she manages her money well she manages her skills she's able to look at a property and say this is a good property I'm going to buy it with the money my husband gave me she cultivates strength she's doing this feminine strength I've been there for every time my kids were born it's horrific a little person coming out of it it's not scary but women are strong they can do incredible things but not just in childbirth women are able to do incredible things like we see with the CEOs and all those sorts of tasks no one is denying that women are capable but different in a second her love would be her fourth one she has an intense love for her household and for her servants and this household has servants she cares about them she makes sure that they're all dressed well you know I remember once I saw an episode of Family Guy it's not a show I usually watch but Lois goes to jail for some reason and Stewie is walking into the room and the diaper that's full he's like Peter please change me sometimes us guys we can just over look he looks fine but moms are making sure they look nice and have good clothes and this woman loves her household her servants and everybody she loves her husband she frees him from some of his duties so he can be at the gates the gates in the ancient world is where judgments would be rendered so when you're a respected man people with a problem would come and get your wisdom and so this guy this is later in life so this is at the end of a woman's life so this woman clearly is well she's developed these skills but enough to free her husband to be involved in public office so she has this great love for her husband she also loves the poor she cares deeply about the poor she loves instruction she wants to learn, she wants to be corrected you know that was the hardest part of our early marriage the first three years we tried to kill each other for a while a lot of broken lamps and whatever and a member just trying to get my wife to admit that she could be wrong was difficult and I used to tell her like did Jesus die for you we're just the rest of the world but beginning these arguments and I remember one night I decided that I was going to correct her and I wouldn't give up till I won right it's like the guy jumping on the back of like a wild horse hold on I'm going to break this horse and so we argued for like hours into the morning and I won but it was like Rocky 2 at the end of Rocky 2, Apollo Creed and Rocky beat the hell out of each other for 12 rounds and they knocked each other both down and then whoever gets up first wins I got up first and I won it was the start of Emily being willing to admit like yeah she can be wrong and I know she can be right I need her to show me that she can be wrong she can be instructed by me she likes to ask me things and this is a woman that can receive instruction if you can't be corrected man I would warn everyone stay away from that woman she can't ever admit she's wrong that's a terrible person and so the last thing so the last one was her love and then the second I just lost my sound the last thing is she has a reward she's honored she's honored through her family she's honored by the Lord and she's honored through the work herself so I said this is a woman as producer and what she does is her husband gives her strength and she takes it and multiplies it that's what women do they multiply the strength of a man that's why you don't want a weak man and you're like there's not much to work with and I always think about like I think about how we make people and she turns that into a person it's amazing it's amazing but not just that a man brings home some flour and she makes bread a man gives her some money and she buys a vineyard women are multipliers so men are looking for good ROI return on investment and that's what the mother's saying find a woman that if you give her strength you get back and women are crazy when they have babies like they turn into efficiency machines they go through this incredible change and they're able to get all these things done and I remember after our first kid I had to work harder to keep up with Emily she's just on a mission so women as producers is amazing the thing with households that we don't get we think about this very quickly I don't have much time left but when we think of a household we don't think of a biblical household we think of a place where we watch Netflix and maybe have people over every once while a household is everything it's a servant here it includes her servants the property, the influence all that I always remind people Abraham's household was able to go to war with four kings she's not a careerist she's not this isn't a career away from her family she and her family are working together the industrial revolution changed the nature of the home it removed productivity out of the home it went into the factories and so work became something slowly that happened outside of the home where it used to always be in the home and so should men and women work together yes, in the home children should work with their mother and father and that's how it used to be and as it's separated over time it's become more and more problematic and now that the home's been gutted of everything it's been gutted of its productivity first but now it's gutted of of its place of education where moms used to be educators you know, I'm not a hardcore homeschooler I think it's really good I certainly would not encourage public school but my wife is educated in a hard case she does a fine job but home used to be a place of discipleship it used to be a place of hospitality architecture has changed where now, donning rooms are small no one comes over anymore, you go to a restaurant instead but home used to be the locus of everything and women used to be over that and have that influence very different than a 1950s house one as machines were created to wash dishes, whatever it didn't fulfill women I actually see what they're talking about because women are that capable to take down feminism we have to make the home productive again we have to change, like my wife is shaping the world we're building big things, we're doing it together I can say like Xenophon without my wife, I would die our vision is so big that I need her and so I get why women are struggling with staying at home because it's just Netflix and chill but that's not what scripture is talking about it's a crazy time we can actually reclaim the home because of the internet because now through the internet you can do things like fulfillment by Amazon and sell on eBay every dude here has seven books and eight courses for you to go through I have none, I should find a better way to make money I guess but you can do those things and you can sell them from your home you can bring industry back into your home again in a way that hasn't happened before, with remote work we're able to get away from the cities which is good because Black Lives Matter is burning the place down so a husband provides the raw goods and the wife multiplies them she magnifies her husband's name foster through her work and our children we're making more of us we're taking over liberals don't have enough kids they're all going to work for my kids eventually and one of them will be emperor of the world the producer is much more than a housewife and some quasi 50 cents she manages the household and expands its borders, consequently the husband can be about the business outside the home and they can get a lot of things done this is the vision of femininity in Scripture this is the vision we've lost this is what feminists hate they think the home is a prison it's not a prison, it's a launch pad it's a society society is a collection of households and if the basic building block has been destroyed the society is going to fall and that's what's happening we have to be men we have to be women and we have to come together and have children and marriage and build this up this is our task this is what we're working at right now so when we say make women great again without you ladies so that's my challenge for you and I counted a privilege to speak to you thank you so much we have four minutes to talk about why you need to forgive your mother anybody, any questions are we all ready for wine and dinner I'm sure it won't be awkward at all you know interesting is a code word interesting is a code word it is, it always means someone disagrees but go on, I want to hear it's very interesting really that's good all of this stuff happened in the home the feminist hard line is coming from when they say that marriage is slavery because there's no way you can logically conclude that having a rumba clean for you is somehow drudgery okay so they're pulling from some truth do you think that this was something that was to become more of a reality that women today would even be prepared do you work really hard going to school for four, six, ten years but do you really have the strength to do what the milkmaid did 200 years ago maybe not, right but you guys start somewhere like everyone has all these excuses that they won't have the ideal but you have to start and you build where you're at look, we can't fix this we can't fix this in this generation we're just trying to get the ball down the field and hand it to the next generation it's why you have to have an intergenerational vision for your family if you can fulfill your vision in your life your vision's too small and I need grandkids to get this done so Emily and I, when we were dating we decided we'd have we wanted 25 people to come from us we're working on it so grandkids are going to feel like enough kids right now anyway, bring it thank you for the information you've shared with us today I'm not sure what the population of the world was when the Old Testament was written or when the New Testament was written I might have an idea about what the population is now but it seems like there are a lot of people and there might be an initiative to not have babies so I think I have three children and motherhood is great I don't know if I'll ever have grandbabies because of the way things are right now so could you speak to population control issues it's a lie you can fit all of America standing in a space, I think in the Jacksonville middle of America's you can so much open space so I don't buy it also not everyone has lots of kids this isn't me saying you have to have the absolute most kids you can by today's standards, three kids is a lot actually is it going to keep sliding so this idea also the baby boomers are dying off and one of our biggest problems right now is the replacement rate in the west one reason social security probably failed is because we killed all those babies when they were working out that formula it had a replacement rate that didn't happen because of abortion and so our problem is we need more people this idea I would challenge anyone to prove it how much can the planet take and so you can go back to that old book the population bomb or whatever back in the 70's this has been thoroughly discredited so I'm not an anthropologist or sociologist I'm a pastor I can speak from scripture and from experience but what I've seen sold as the problem of overpopulation I've found scientifically and intellectually unpersuasive so that'd be my answer have two more kids congratulations on your babies I think that's really great to have that many my grandmother was the wisest woman I ever met and she started taking care of her siblings when she was 12 because her mother died then she got married and had 11 children of her own and there was a whole lot more than 25 when we met at her house we only had three but if and I wanted six but that didn't happen and from those three we have nine grandchildren and we have in-laws so that my house was built to have big dinners and right now if just some of them come I have six at one table and ten at another and then we have people standing around to eat so you can my grandmother said we don't look at the big picture and one thing my grandmother said and I think women especially feminists lost this the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world if women stay home and take care of their children instead of going to work outside the home and letting somebody at the daycare raise them then you will have influence on your children and I just think that we need to get back to that sort of thing absolutely I ran this by my wife before not because I needed permission but because I wanted wisdom I was like here's what I think I'm going to do but this morning I knew it was going to be really good and really bad don't tell me I don't want to know but I ran a buyer my wife has intense influence through me and I trust her and women always have influence through her husband and other men it's significant hey you're going to work for the patriarch you get that right there's no stopping this if you work for a CEO at a company most of the small business owners are men you're building up their name and I fired people when I worked for corporate America I had to or they moved on she was a great woman I missed her then I move on if my wife dies it's going to leave a hole in my family so what do you want do you want to give your life to some faceless corporation do you want the patriarchy an emaciated household boiled down to this is revenue producing or do you want to have influence through your husband and your children and your neighbors and in your community and that woman in problems 31 is not just locked to her house she's very so you're going to there's no way you're going to get around this the patriarchy the ability of patriarchy it's a red pill don't see eye to eye but ma'am I'm going to ask I'm going to ask you this and it's not to be like confrontational yes so earlier we saw a slide 60 million abortions since 1979 I think and since you said you were conservative and most of us in this room I'm going to assume are conservative as well we're on a press pass so what the problem that I see is if we didn't have the 60 million abortions then we have the 60 million unwanted babies unhealthy whatever demographic whatever income they're coming from so it could have it did save taxpayers this money having to take care of these unwanted babies but if we didn't have the 60 million abortions and we had these babies and then conservatives say they don't want to pay for these unwanted babies so how do we fix that how do we have unwanted babies still bring them into the world and take care of them because it comes to our responsibility okay it's a fair question my answer for it would first off we have to decide we're not going to murder people right they're people and we can't kill them we have to stop there it's bad to kill people stop it any person don't kill them I know what about capital punishment a baby is equal to a criminal sure that's not the same thing that's moral equivocation that's a weak argument we can blow right through that stuff but the reality is all of them are unwanted right that's an assumption that we can't demonstrate it was this they were scared into it sometimes and what if we had the extended family would be part of it where we have support groups that will come and help these people also don't have sex before you get married stop it right have sex in marriage and raise those kids up in marriage and having sex outside of marriage leads to a lot of abortion I'm a Christian pastor what else do you think I'm going to say here I think it's fornication it's a sin it's bad and it creates something like abortion it's sacrificing babies so you can have a happy life so the way you can have a happy life and we can save some taxes and we can kill a bunch of babies you go to abortion clinic behind them is a dumpster in that dumpster is bio ways by bio ways we mean blood, baby hands, baby heads all that stuff it's disgusting but we have to be not just against abortion we have to be pro family we have to help these people I protested at abortion clinics for a long time and yes we would adopt those babies we adopt them all the time Christians love to adopt babies and apparently if you're a Supreme Court justice it's still not good enough to adopt them but yeah we have to be willing to adopt them we have to be willing to support them we have to be willing to come around marriages that are falling apart and encourage them to keep them I can think of these guys they would drive into the abortion clinic with a woman and the guys would come out front and I'd say look man you need to go in there and tell her I will take care of your child go do it she's not listening you've got to do it man Liam Neeson in all those movies is like I got these skills I'm going to protect my daughter you're not Liam Neeson Liam Neeson goes in there you tell that murderer that abortionist to get your hands off my wife protect your babies we have to face it down but here's the thing with all these problems we don't always have easy solutions and that doesn't mean we do nothing we do what we can and we work towards it we admit that there are systematic problems there's huge problems right now that our country is basically built on abortion and contraceptive so much it's the only way that it allows two income families to happen if Roe v. Wade was abolished there'd be major ramifications to our economy that's a problem it's a crazy thought and I want it to go away but we've built some issues here so we start looking for a solution also when I said conservative I meant theologically conservative so I do tend to vote okay I'm very conservative I'm right of whoever in here thinks I'm right now you're not going to comment on her are you because this is a question and answer time I was just going to tell a story alright let's hear a story but it's a comment on what she said in 1979 we adopted our daughter she was four I had to wait to get her until she was abused and the whole time from the time she was born until she was four I was trying to adopt a baby and there weren't any because they killed them all and the garbage men in Phoenix, Arizona found a dumpster behind a Planned Parenthood place and they refused to take the dumpster away because it was full of babies and I just pulled over to the side of the road and bowed my head and cried and said God I only wanted one let me tell you there's no such thing as an unwanted child I am 70 years old and today if they would let me I would adopt another one thank you Chernow just to close it up I just would say that men can do cold abstractions women aren't very good at cold abstractions and when you give yourself to anti-motherhood do things like abortion it has major ramifications to your soul and it makes you shrill and it makes you hard and the world needs your femininity needs your good softness brought into it and we can't lose that thank you so much we can win this war we can win this war okay well joining us from Orlando Florida is the man in that clip Anthony Dream Johnson who says he wants to abolish feminism and make women great again it also says with the trademark make women great again always great make women great again they're going to do a three day seminar for women led by all men in mansplaining news a three day conference for women led by men hopes to make women great again how the 22 convention will make you the greatest you ever raise your femininity by 500% first of all how is a man supposed to tell a woman how to be the ultimate woman a woman needs to be taught how to be great again how to land a husband how to lose weight how to pump out a bunch of kids why do men think they need to fix the problems of women well it says the world's ultimate event for women in Orlando Florida that's going to be the scene of the crime it's mansplaining palooza and say no to the toxic bullying feminist dogma taught by men to make women great again taking the stage now is the founder of the 22 convention you're in for a treat Mr. Anthony Dream Johnson Anthony Dream Johnson Anthony Dream Johnson the first president of the manosphere it's run by all men which promises to quote make women great again this course is guaranteed to raise your femininity by 500% together we will make women great again excuse me I'm mansplaining here nothing wrong