 one make a whale you don't know how to make a whale noise I'm thinking about the dolphin sounds and when Moe is trying to move the dolphin oh it's pretty good no wait what was yeah cuz that's that's yeah that was actually kind of good what is bring you'll know what was he moving was it was was it a was it a dolphin was in a whale um wait oh Moe was yeah the the whale all right there aren't let's get it back to SeaWorld yeah the sound effect is like are we live yet we're live but we haven't gone public so people will in the re-upload hello weird reupload people yeah we watched Star Trek for the voyage home what and so now we just got whales on the brain oh I know about that I wonder how many people here have actually seen that hey all whales are humpback whales if you have the right attitude give me like 10 years when Jane I have for all Star Trek you're not gonna watch all of it just TNG loses well with a week attitude we won't it would take it would take I think nine years to watch all of TNG deep space nine and for AJ well the releases the weekly ones will probably take nine years not you can see just speeding the fuck up yeah yeah weekly which I mean it's it's pretty impressive that within like I think I think it was what within 14 years they made enough content that you can watch one a week for nine years that's pretty good it is pretty crazy not bad well didn't doesn't talk to you about our shows maybe like in the early days when it was like a production line as in like they just filmed one a week every week the whole year I mean that's pretty hard to beat to be fair yeah we should appreciate them the most they did the thing by the way I've only seen like one or two episodes of old who and it was like 30 years ago so I can't really speak to how well that production line worked but I'm willing to bet it's probably better than the newest seasons that everyone seems to hate Jay asked me to watch a couple of the oldie ones and to be fair they have a charm at least the ones I've seen I mean the ones that you've seen I don't think a particularly standout ones they are charming however though and they spend more time with characters than the new ones do that's true all right I've just noticed Jay's profile picture is okay everyone notices that eventually yeah it's a come I want to come in mate I mean it took me like 15 minutes to make and I did it during an AFAP during the arcane AFAP I just it was like that'll be funny and then I did it and then you know what you were correct it was funny or like no one noticed for like three hours and then suddenly metal burst into laughter and I was like what yeah that was fun that was fun you guys being serious or is that a meme part of the title you don't actually think Kenobi is good right um what you may have thought mate I we've put out some mitties we've put out some discussions if you've caught them you'll have some idea of how amazing we think the show is you don't think you're just trying to ruin people's fun yeah we should have we should have agreed on this beforehand we should have just spent six hours sarcastically praising it see if people would notice no there's no way I could do that it would have picked us so quickly they'd see right through us so it would have been funny though it would have been funny if you came here and they could see Jay being like oh my god that show was bad then all six of us are like that was probably the best thing we've ever seen what if we spent the full efap genuinely trying to compliment the best aspects of the show like just scraping through it and be like can we compliment this can is does this work like you know we're trying those charitable as possible not not even like not even like I mean hype I guess that would be too good faith but just like picking out those occasional moments where it's like that line of dialogue was pretty good and then ignore if you ignore everything else that's great I think we ended up complimenting the same line of dialogue three different times across the many's that's how little we had to say it was good we just kept me like that one was good isn't it great how when Obi-Wan is asked what the force is like he's like if you're afraid of the dark and then you turn on the lights it's like that what a line of dialogue that was good across six episodes of this million millions of millions of dollars worth of production of a tv show about star wars well hey that one line was neat it was also like when the jar was said that cleaning costs extra that was a great line yeah that was awesome great line yeah you have like some kind of job we have to go undercover as a fan of this show to do something for whatever reason and the writers are like what lines you like you name those two and they're like what else you're like I changed the subject of a guy on the chair and like a van outside was like I'm trying to find you a line I'm trying to find you a putting the god damn what Owen says he is my own you say that and go oh yeah that's great and that's three so now I believe you think the show is good and you're like oh thank god we have three lines across six episodes and in two of them are cleaning cost extra that's three words okay uh he is my own that's four words um and then the Kenobi thing so to be fair two of the three lines are seven words that's fine and they fall they almost fall apart the moment you put them into the context of the rest of the episode so how does the cleaning cost extra fall apart I know you gotta just kind of wonder why obi can obi one can obi take shit like Kenobi I'm sorry that was a starter but why does he take shit like that from a jawa like he'd just be like no how about was he so steal my shit or I'll kill you why would you have known at this point the cleaning cost extra I'll be my assumption I don't think I think he's trying to keep a low profile and threatening the Jawas would be um it would be would not work with that goal that's true the Jawas are like the drama channels of Tatooine he um it's an interesting do the Jawas have strippers they're like a tribe of keen stars what do they even look like with their hoods down oh do we want to know that maybe they die is that something that maybe they die jawa without hoods it's like it's like shaving the beard off a dwarf it's a very it's a very shameful thing socially so if if a jawa pulls down the hood of another jawa then he just like melts or maybe the sun hits him and he disintegrates like a reverse witch oh yeah I typed in jawa without hood one of the results I got was BOSC like hang on oh wow the lore expands the Jawas are just tiny transosians wearing hoods maybe no no they're big they just when they put the hood down they turn into these big tall strong lizard people I didn't mean for that sound romantic or anything and there's just this cultural acceptance that you don't do that but no one knows why you're just not supposed to do it little do they know if they would have all put their hoods down they turn into these big lizard people and they'd be able to fuck shit up it doesn't seem to be a genuine generally accepted answer all of the like visuals that I've seen for what a jawa looks like under the hood is like they don't look anything like each other unless unless a jawa like is just like the style like that's the style but like there's loads of different species under there and they all look different well it could be the born season oh a brown hood and they have a maximum height that can't can't be in our gang unless you're under five people oh what if they're like the um what if they're like the hunters from halo and they're a bunch of worms underneath there like a direction of worms acting as a singular entity they always refer to themselves as we even if there's seemingly one individual what are the results for jawa without the hood is fucking mas canada you guys remember that legendary character mas canada yeah i love the diversity of star wars crazy new alien design uh and then and she knows everything and she told us we would find out another time and we never did i feel like if mas went outside say we'd find out she just had to ask the question at another time they never did well that's true they didn't you know it's probably a comic book or something i have to remind myself what she mas cannot cannot uh oh yeah i i remember her there's i i the the i had the general orange alien little orange alien kind of look in my mind going back from memory but i had to take a look it looks like if she looked up during a during a rainstorm you'd get two bird feeders anyway the pool a little bit of water i get it oh look oh no that's not a cosplay it oh my god oh god that's horrifying oh my goodness oh i wouldn't oh i feel better like a lot of work would have got into those a lot of what that face is imploding the terrifying yeah just because you put a lot of work into something it doesn't mean you should have it's really impressive the one on the right looks like it's just like a bolt rubber mask if that because there's there's no way that those are human eyes that far apart i don't know maybe hey hey wow jay wow i was gonna say audio tale of joy is is a nice person don't make fun of it like that i think by the way i think i have discovered unintentionally where ezra miller is hiding he's standing he's hiding behind mas canada in that robe there he's on the run today we're here to gather gathered here today to talk about um oh yeah i probably should have mentioned it first like where's the mini for the finale for the kanoa it's getting made okay it was a long boy um we've even got this is the first one we have all three of the kanbumi editors working on it got third of it each it's getting pieced together soon after this efat probably um hoping to come out on sunday but that's um 20 or 50 50 sort of thing yeah but i mean it's it's not an impossibility you know plenty of fun ahead um but until then you're gonna have to be tidied over by us discussing some some kanbumi on on this stream here and uh you know we got we got we have i don't even know if we ever have covered them but like there's some reviews of the show especially the season finale and they're quite positive uh exceptionally if you may say and then there's other perspectives to to to to check out as a result of it i would say that uh as the title says you got you got that why the star wars fans hate everything and uh i feel like that's why it's good that we have um possibly the most hateful star wars fan i've ever seen we are very hateful on this cast being uh jay of course put out a tweet powers a shit i think that was pretty rude and um attacked episode for no really good reason at all you heard episode for his feelings forgotten the storm trooper hit us out on the door yeah how do you feel now that you've been told that 10 000 times jay does that affect your opinion on the show ah look one in the way yeah scared that's what that is what if what if i kind of the yeah i kind of hope that wasn't on purpose well it's happened before yeah i hope it was i want him to know what he's done who did that happen with before was it the halo stream it wasn't it was he like died yeah so yeah we're like aha oh all righty are you can you can come back now hey good joke funny maybe i i feel is a good chance jay's listening and knows now to stay out for a decent chunk of time to make it look as though it was the accidental like jay can we play 40 chess oh gosh the apartment internet sure is bad today you guys are gonna feel so bad when this is the last time we ever no that makes it even fun yeah that's even better how come when i i still have this i still have this tab open for maz canada canada every time i say her name it's different maz canada and in one of the little pictures is ray got her yellow lightsaber from maz canada star wars theory youtube like fuck off maybe she did like it was made out of her staff she built it it was her staff that yeah and mando canan to help to build it yeah just had to get a nose lizard and then they were off to the right also i think if tia is established i always forget about the nose lizards and i remember the noses is like all right right yeah the nose lizards that's all lizards oh because they just have noses yeah well they all go into someone's nose at some point oh right the nose lizard from boba fett the one that jumped into his fucking face and gave him a psychedelic trip where he oh yeah that's found a tree in the desert and then brought back a limb so that it could be gaffied i know everybody probably understood my joke then that happened jesus did it's great someone wrote that and they were like this is star wars a star well yeah and then those people into like finally we understand the deep cultural interestingness of nobody seemed to care about the slavery pot that was weird they really didn't that's kind of weird lesson i think it's just me a walker good who no one cares about that is she is that a gaffy stick i don't know is a character did you name your gaffy stick me skywalker it'd be a pretty good name for one i think so really yeah why not maybe like maybe dirt walker i can see why you call it that sand sand wanderer this modern star wars we got us a bird expectations grit hiker um play poker come guzzler he'd be link as i was saying i don't know if we've ever covered these lads before but they're famous everyone knows them they're called wait i've actually forgotten is it internet gaming news is that what the the three letters stand for i don't know i all i see is big buck bunny yeah i don't worry about that i would have thought i've given it away i'm not actually what does that can we watch this instead i wish we could wikipedia yeah so it's imagine games network that's that's that's uh imagine games network they don't even talk about tv shows too they've cheated i can imagine a games network it's shit it is pretty shit i don't imagine they work i jen's liked by basically nobody no i jen just has that reputation for you give call of duty like nine every year remember remember when they gave uh alien isolation a six out of ten because the guy found it too hard i think um i think i jen and like the generally bad opinion that people have of them is almost indicative of the problem that you are faced with as an organization where nobody particularly cares who writes your reviews but like who writes your reviews matters a lot because people have different tastes in games because it's the person who writes your review what i mean is people will be like man like they gave call duty and nine but then gave another better shooter a lower score and then you find out the person who like reviewed that what expresses in the review that they're kind of like not a fan of first person shooters or something well isn't also the problem that they pay like ridiculously low that's a lot of hard wages to the article writers and yet it's all um i think that mostly freelance which is i jen is like the epitome of like the games journalism website i think it's just kind of funny when a lot of people are going to be getting their news either directly or indirectly through like these sites anyway but like i jen definitely has that reputation it's like ah yeah right like have they ever given a five to something they probably have but i just be curious what out of five they definitely have well it's just they do but the meme is the i jen scale goes from six to ten yeah so a six from i jen might as well be a two sounds about right they fucking hate it if it's a six it's like oh no meanwhile if we give something a six people be like oh shit is it good it's like yeah oh yeah it's adjust your scale like you gotta adjust it to be not six ten is your ratio for video games that because i used to have like point review scores i think and not not like even you know seven point five it would be like nine point two like such an odd system yeah there that was the meme the seven point eight out of ten too much water for them like five out of ten is four out seventy six probably wow yeah no no legit they gave four like seventy six five out of ten that's amazing that that gave it a five the genuinely the normie scale goes from five to ten like even literally they've like i'll show you i found they they list what they're uh like basically what their scores mean and five is mediocre uh six is okay and then up so on it's not though by their system if you get like a fire it's a catastrophe it's a weird thing with the with the numbers because i feel like that stretches over to just all different kinds of content creation this is kind of interesting like read just recently when i was watching someone doing a an alcoholic drink for themselves shot said it's like oh that was disgusting four of ten it's like wait what where'd you where'd you do that there's just some of the stand where this happens all the time everywhere the last of us is not ten out it's like that game's got problems from a design standpoint yes it's an interesting selection here right god will presumably 2018 the last of us legend is out of breath the wild and grand theft order five it's like it doesn't surprise me even slightly that these are their picks no i know that they're very uh i i guess like they're the boring choices for like best game right this game all the time yeah it would be even better if they had skyroom in there it's like ah yes the first yeah to agree with the first i'd knock out as the last of us um yeah last of us shouldn't be in there it's uh that game the artificial intelligence is bad it's just plain bad and that's like a huge pillar of the hey it's gonna remastered so it won't be a problem okay i looked up their bio shock infinite review oh that gave it like a nine or something i remember that you had a nine point four out of ten yeah the blurb thingy is in total bio shock infinite is a brilliant shooter that nudges the entire genre forward in both with innovations in both storytelling and game storytelling and gameplay if you say 2013 2013 was very much the year of game journalists getting incredibly insecure about their job and like needing to justify the value of like video games by praising like games like infinite and the last of us the like storytelling as though games haven't told stories like since their inception as if like there's never been a good video game narrative up until 2013 it was a really odd period for like the industry what are you about why nine they gave resident evil to remake yeah probably remake yeah yeah um i don't know about that i like that a lot but i never completed it also they've got batman autumn night there which makes me curious how they did their review for that when it came out like that one wasn't these tatters when it came out holy s**t arguably the worst one in the franchise but when it came out though for what i hear it once it's stable it's good right or is that not a thing yeah i like it too once it's actually working and not crashing every 10 seconds it's okay but yeah not the best in the series performance stability though still doesn't change the fact that most of the game you're constantly having to go into the batmobile and do like tank missions which like i mean it's cool once or twice but you spend like 40% of that game in the batmobile and it's like oh my god like come on you would have expected um arcom city to show up there that at least i expected arcom city actually i guess um this is this is super smash brothers ultimate i guess that's an interesting one because i really like that game but i wonder how you would um how you uh yeah i'm i'm just i'm just wondering like what i would how i would because like for instance if you look at something like brawl they probably get brawl a nine and it's like would brawl get a nine like would actually get a nine you know honestly i would guess ij and give all the smash brother f**king games 10 out of 10 i wouldn't even i guess that's the thing that that's kind of boring about them is you know exactly what they if it's like if it's if it is grand theft or if it's legend is over or if it's a sony third person action adventure game with a big budget then like yeah they're gonna give it a really good score it's just really predictable except for when you get a 7.8 out of 10 too much water those blurbs don't help them the things that they pick to put on their little dot point list for why they like and dislikes stuff i remember that they gave in their review of infamous one of the the things that was put on their dot points was coles voice it's like when you talk about like summaries for a video game the voice of one character it's like a big knock against it it's a really odd especially when you're wrong like in that case totally wrong but whatever this is funny great the outer worlds division two kingdom hearts three and greedful that's uh that's a hodgepodge there isn't it so wait the image looks like rocket league yeah i guess i think rocket league is uh also in category yeah well yeah i like rocket league yeah i mean yeah rocket league this selection i don't think i've played any of them so i've heard a lot of good things about greedfall but i've also heard that it's very very janky like it's one of those things that it seems like a well a team that didn't have a lot of resources or money or maybe experience polishing games or even time to do so trying to take on like a bio ware sized project and apparently they did it pretty well and it's got it's kind of an interesting setting because it's i think frontier us but there's magic so i don't know seem kind of cool but i haven't played it a lot of people saying kingdom hearts three is it's not not cool out of the selection i guess a lot of pushback for that and the outer world is is the cool guy the outer and style right not the outer worlds goal why don't you go hit him with your key good oh from the good walking toward a game you got fifa 20 really okay yoshi's crafted world our current new dawn and will was the oh i thought i thought you normally say do you normally say yoshi or yoshi yoshi it is yoshi that's how yoshi says we talked about this we have talked about this several times at this point please no more than lie um as a fee for 20 i'm sure that one was the best of all the fevers obviously i i find it funny that um they're in their blurb they say playing a good game with good as a proper noun that's what is what is that maybe um it's a name for maybe they're referring to a kind of like it like it's a tier of a score that they have on their website yeah seven is good i guess it's but i i guess yeah i don't know um i i like as well because we we skip past it in masterpiece they said there's no such thing as a truly perfect game but those that earn a masterpiece label come as close as we could reasonably hope for through that let's actually say that like the last sorry i keep coming back it's like dude that can't be a problem is it like it's it's kind of baffling that i don't know it's narratively great shut up wow it's funny as well because like i guess we should expect this but it's just like does anyone that's seen a game yet you don't recognize it's like i guess that's part of the point to allow people to understand what kind of scaling we're working with here but funny thing is that you start to not recognize the games when you get down to like three two like that's at that point it's only ever it's never like there's never a triple A game that ever gets a score that low well just kind of interesting i guess let's see if we keep recognizing them with uh well okay we got wolfenstein youngblood maripati 10 medieval you got a what assassins creed chronicles china the the assassins creed side scroll spin off is what that is so that this is what score range was it six six okay well haven't a maripati 10 was it bad i have never liked a maripati game personally do you know how friends or i mean i guess i guess don't know i got x-ray girl and two dogs are you shit at lots of smaller games see these terrible games i i think it's just i i don't memory and coordination i don't think that's it i mean like a lot of the games that i do like involve both memory and coordination but i think it's just the hey tap this button so that your person can go past the line before the other i just don't like those kind of games it's like yeah now we're doing this and they have like the board mechanic makes it so that like oh well i mean like yeah i imagine there's not just happening at this point yeah sometimes i can tap b2 yeah you can tap b as for a medieval which which one is that i forget remake um you know medieval is right there so for the skew deliton man oh yeah the place yeah the guy that was in um station all stars yes he's um yeah that's he was the guy that was like who the fuck is that he's he's an amusing looking character yes he is so let's go down a mediocre crack down three beyond eyes fall out 76 and moons of madness and this is um this is interesting because you look at the blow this is the kind of bland unremarkable game we mostly forgotten about a day after we finished playing a mediocre game isn't something you should spend your time on money on if you consider either to be precious but they'll pass the time if you have nothing better to do so that is a description that they think applies to fallout 76 that it is a bland and unremarkable game that was mostly i think it is very remarkable yes because of how it was and i guess that's the nature of this scale is do you factor in like the means that are available to a developer to realize because in the case of the thezda like surely they have all the means necessary to create something that isn't as bad as fallout 76 from a technical standpoint and um you know like i i guess i wonder how that fact is in is it mediocre these days do they fix bits of it i don't i don't think the ign chains their review scores like after the fact whatever you get it's also moons of madness i don't recognize that yeah i don't know that is that like one of those adventure things seeing where the lovecraftian pop up what is this what was the game called moons of madness ever heard of it wow from the clips i don't know this this looks different as a cinematic flay to its lovecraftian horror but the chore like gameplay does nothing to get in the way of that it does nothing but get in the way of that okay okay um onto bad wwe2k20 the legend of cora there was a game for that oh yeah games it was yeah if not from what i understand it's not aliens colonial marine scored a full that's incredible the medal of honor for the score in the floor that's that i think got a four slightly below mediocre because there's four means bad um which is an interesting scale isn't it yeah or is it a lot of scores to like to just like because three is awful it's like oh you figure awful is probably like really low yeah and one is like meme tier i do kind of like unfinished or scam like you'd call a scam game a one going from five to four does now become like these are games we wish we'd never played it's like oh shit geez wow i like you know i feel like if it's a scam it should be a zero yeah a scam can be a real game it can be an actual game that has the mechanics and things but it can also be some kind of a scam now everyone love diablo mortally yeah like that's the thing if you were tasked with uh reviewing diablo immortal where do you say all right well the game itself is actually like kind of kind of good or okay or whatever but it's it's the most monstrous thing in terms of you know microtransactions and industry damage and things of that nature so if i have to assign a number to this game it does what do i do you know well rgn gave it a six so they consider it okay i guess i do you score system though don't they like the number scores just aren't like that they're not they're such like a big focus of what people pay attention to with their reviews because of how short they are but like they're never helpful as a guide for like you know or at least an all-encompassing explanation of like the merits of a given game mm also er said the um legendary core game it has to be the game because the show would never score that high this is ign they probably would give the show that high ign give very very skewed as well scores for like films and tv shows like platinum made the core game too and it was a definitely a paycheck gig they they needed money and i think they did another couple tv kind of animated show adaptation games that were equally low effort but i don't know i didn't end up in it playing any of them i had a little error without making a whole bunch of games pretty quickly yeah it's time to check out awful oh boy devils third ravens cry left alive and fighters uncaged i don't recognize any of these uh i don't know i think fighters uncay fighters uncays i'm pretty sure is a connect fighting game like the xbox for imagine getting a oh yeah what if you were some professional ufc fighter and you just you just got to connect and got that game and you just fucking destroyed everyone like i'm gonna destroy everyone in the real world and the virtual world i'm unstoppable the game journalists only didn't like it because it's a reasonable simulation of what an actual fight is like i got beat up every time comfortable it's like shooting an air 15 i got ptsd my health doesn't regenerate my health regenerates very very slowly i'm gonna say it totally doesn't realize it's just not very fast yeah super slow and painful the culling to fast if you're a showdown quantum theory and fight it with it i seriously don't recognize anything anymore i've heard of the culling to and how it released and nobody played it yeah it released a better way i have like zero players on steam yeah something like that to oh yeah it's a br isn't it the color is a literal scam i how have we never heard of these quantum theory sounds vaguely familiar i don't know if i you're probably thinking of quantum break oh maybe i am oh no yeah that's what i'm because that's what i thought the second i saw that i was like how a quantum break it kind of sucks but i don't know it's all right yes because i guess yeah because the the ign people just get sent out and in hordes to play everything i guess so you just they'll find games you've never even heard of when you said that i imagined the little robots from matrix except for ign reviewers they were just when they fly through the air and they find games and latch on to them just these sixes and sevens again put out on everything it's like oh no yeah little games are flying around like the nebuchadnezzar and they're going oh all right look at me i'm just a game having fun oh my god it's an ign reviewer and they like latch on to it so before the examples i'll read out the the bloob for one which is unbearable the silver lining of these dark clouds is that they're often so poorly made that they crap out after a certain point if they ever worked at all so we were spared from any permanent effects that playing a game this terrible might have on our brains we don't always take the time to write up reviews of games that are this obviously bad but they are out there damn you got rudolf the red nose reindeer step up and self-defense training camp self-defense training camp the video game yes that's the kind of always connect game what happened what he do why i mean we all know what he did we know the story in the song but what to deserve such a terrible game rudolf's excited i finally get a video game and then they this weird um a lot not many of the famously bad games popped up on this list like aliens calling marines was there but it was a four yes no least bad of their bad scores no right to hell retribution on yeah who was that so i don't think they reviewed it oh that's sad i know i lost yeah so there you go that that gets you an idea of how they review things you never would have known they even have a one two three four or five they do writers they do they probably would argue that they'd be like yeah you think we don't have a scale for it but we know 476 was very much acceptable and we don't feel like why you're weird bro this shows the age of my references because i was now thinking about i'm curious what do they give call a gitty ghost oh that would be interesting to find out my guess you probably gave it a six i think minimum minimum eight yeah i think it's a nine it wouldn't surprise me i think minimum eight was a good guess because the answer is eight point eight wow holy shit those kind of eight point eight that's like a stellar quality game curious to skim through every oh hey thanks ign every call oh ign call a gitty review score that's super helpful what's the lowest let's yeah um oh that i guess that's there's a vanguard so they gave you so what you didn't like shooters reviewing it they gave uh i they gave call a gitty one a nine point three um i guess we so call a gitty two they gave a nine um big red one they gave an eight call a gitty three they gave an eight point eight what are these numbers what modern warfare was a nine point four so that'll be the interesting one how did how did other games the first modern warfare from yeah call a gitty four after call a gitty three um and then world war that's the same score as infinite by the way that they gave nine point four i think that they're as good as each other that's oh god yeah they're on the same level in terms of gameplay and narrative so they gave modern warfare two a nine point five i love modern warfare two but that is wrong like you know it's like a reflection of that games that games got a lot of balancing issues even if people out there think it's the best card the best card in getting a 10 out of 10 or they gave black ops eight point five which is kind of interesting because i think black ops at this point has much better reputation than a lot of other call a gitty games yeah i would yeah because for instance they gave modern warfare three and nine so like i would like if we had to use those numbers i would switch those around modern warfare three is not a nine nine they gave it one over three higher than black ops one what the fuck yeah wow when mom over three came out i remember me and my friend group but you all tackle it straight away the campaign was short and frustrating writing wise and uh the spawns were awful on the multiplayer we we did not have fun yeah yeah i remember faintly uh modern warfare three back when i played call of duty sort of and i was like modern warfare three is it's that big problem with ign is that like their reviews of a game that they're kind of exemplified here that it's so disconnected from like what actually turned out to be the case with the multiplayer for these games the reviews are so disconnected from what actually turned out to be the case well i think i'll play i'll be like yeah it's really fun it's a lot of weapons well remember when they gave evolve like a nine and then the game died in a week horrible it tried they gave black ops two or nine point three i like black ops two but like a nine point three man oh dude i remember well didn't evolve before i mean like dead by daylight and dead by daylight was this like almost indie developed like janky fucking game and it is now it's just been it just kept going it's still going to this day like as a popular game to play i say popular i mean it's alive and it's got a decent fan base it's just so strange because it was just like this weird horror game that came out and then evolve was like it was like created to be a popular multiplayer game and it just fucking died yeah they're both asymmetric multiplayer like the four v one yeah yeah that's why i'm connecting them is that you have four humans versus one human in a way uh they're not really the same at all but you know i mean that would be what the efab video game would be one player has to play the video we're responding to or the latest disney show and then everyone else gets to put pick from the hosts and okay kenobi had good three good lines like three good lines two of them were seven words total man so that's like that's something that's what's at my point one holy shit um this was asking everybody if you don't know of course because i do know um what do you think i jane gave kenobi oh like the whole show i think they gave it an eight eight eight seven or eight seven five maybe a nine yeah yeah because i think yeah me and mark know what it is so i don't know what it is so well it seems like the average is between eight and nine is it yeah she's like it well i think that was a fair guess uh i suppose we will find out because it'll come up in the video but yeah now that we understand exactly how uh they rate you know it'll be exciting to see how this reflects upon television as they're reviewing that as well but as was pointed out what a bizarre way to like get your content when you need to know who's reviewing it and you need to know what their preferences are because otherwise like you really could end up with two color duties being uh rated completely differently just because the first person hates water and the second person hates fish or something you're just like you know oh no that's that's changing everything um but yeah you're ready to see what i jane have to say about the obi one kenobi series of season finale review this is actually about yeah episode sorry because i've just seen that i've seen how long the video is sorry there's another big problem with i jane like four or five minute reviews you don't have much time to justify anything yeah you could just lie you could just not have done anything and just lied for four and a half minutes was it um and no one would know was it i jen that did the super embarrassing sponge bulb review was that yeah that was funny i said i jen that did um xandra it swanker of a black teen yeah oh no no no sorry that was game spot it was game spot game spot now the spider man yeah i i know because i i reviewed my miles more all this for geeks and gamers and every second comment was but does he have the exaggerated swanker of a black see you know getting a game spot spider man i this i didn't know about this you didn't know about this oh this is great oh fuck it was famous as hell it was so funny oh i just clicked on the review it has 41 uh thousand up votes and 118 thousand down oh i thought they didn't they take it down i thought they took it down they probably should have wow they they released a big statement on twitter saying that the reviewer who said that was black so we're all racist for finding it funny and it's like it's still really funny we're not allowed to okay i i'm something to say review man i feel like i can't wait for all the white reviewers to talk about the exaggerated swagger of the white teens and we uh because we showed the spongebob one on one of the e-fab episodes i don't think we ever showed the spider man one wish we did it was funny why didn't he just say that the way that miles morales swings around is much more suited to like his style and his he's much more like he swings around the city with a an urban grace i believe it was specifically about the poses he strikes as he's jumping off the buildings and then the reviewer immediately afterwards remarks that it gives him goosebumps every time he sees it i was like oh god uh that's how you refer to the blacks is the urban market why didn't he just say that i don't know like the swinging animations were cool what did he just say he liked it i mean like you can you can couch that the criticism of the animation being different from the peter parker animation in the original game because it's like miles morales was a spin-off or an expansion for spider man on ps4 but i think if you just said hey they didn't just recycle the animations they actually gave miles his own animations there's some effort here so you're not paying for nothing for the 40 for this dlc i mean any of his own animations and they're in character they i was about to say that that's all you need to do is say like that he's less experienced so he's still figuring out like what his style is in terms of web slinging and so this is what you get it's kind of like a combination of a little bit haphazard but also very um free flow and and fun i don't know why you would need to say that okay that's fun like wouldn't it fun to just like go with like just two other completely random beautiful characteristics to describe like why you know miles really swings with the exaggerated swagger ah marvel's uh what's this plan there it is miles morales swings with the exaggerated swagger also we should have a five foot nine left-handed man like that before we progress we just we need to make it clear we should probably all be saying swagger so by the way i just saw because you know how like youtube has implemented the whole what is the most replayed portion of the video like oh by far by far yeah yep it's hard to imagine that that's the reality but let's let's have a little luck see for those who didn't see it literally no one's watched any of it except that bit i just kept on replaying for peter parker spider-man you can understand how he's grown to this point you got to see it you got to live through that internal turmoil with him the child of a black father and porto rican mother miles is a wonderful mixture of cultures and languages the way he leaps off of rooftops and flips backwards to face the camera before falling into a head first dive is just full of the exaggerated swagger of a black team i like that he described it the way he jumps off of a building play it play it for the next thing he says though because it makes it fun here oh shit the exaggerated swagger of a black team especially as the music begins especially speaking of when miles begin swinging i can jump all over the place for me sorry hang on all of the exaggerated swagger of a black team gives me goosebumps every time he does it especially as the music begins to swell speaking of we've got to talk about the music when mom oh calm down it's just cool animations like it gives me goosebumps he would have got away he would have got away if he said like just if he just said exaggerated swagger of a team he would have got away with it yeah it would still be a dumb thing to say because we would have assumed it was like something to do with his character not his skin color yeah like oh maybe he just has this you know he's he has this exaggerated swagger because that's just his personality and that's how he is and you know he just sort of presents himself that way and so that shows even underneath the suit it's still this kind of person and no no no he's black the way he's characterized in frame by the way the reverse t-pose in the game though he's not really like swaggery he's very mild mannered and like polite yeah like he's like he is in spiderverse it's like the same character basically they just try to make the hey let's have this like super sweet boy who like just wants to do the right thing that he doesn't understand how he doesn't understand how scary the world of superheroing is and then he learns and i think we realize then that it's time to give spider-man's night a doc spider-man oh man oh no zach snider ben riley movie one to be fair i think that army of the dead was made by it was how do we make this work army of the dead was full of the exaggerated swagger of what would the parallel be between zach snider and malice morales i don't even know a director in the 80s who wasn't on enough coke needed more coke i could be it yeah he needed more yeah zach snider needs more coke so anyway this is finally bill b1 kenobi season finale review from ign as you've seen we've we've really learned who ign is at this point yeah we really get a good grasp on exactly how they're going to be tackling this subject uh and here we go on your hazmat suit spoils scary guys if you don't want this show spoiled you best get out of here okay run you come run destroy me oh this is a very bad stop i love the idea of him landing walking out of the shuttle and the first thing he says is have you come to destroy me uh i was saying on uh open bar this might be the funniest line in all of star wars it's uh i don't know how they didn't catch this everyone assumes it's because they had stock lines and they just had to have him say this but it could also be that when they wrote this or did this they were like well kenobi is like walked up to him kind of he's he's done this to let he's come to him and in a way so it kind of makes sense it's like no you know it doesn't stop saying it does and i just wish we'd cut ticket obi with the face of confusion like it's fine like you know it's i i can already picture the dialogue tree defending this line as well as like first of all go into like no it makes sense because you know obi one did go to the planet and like and then you get like and then you'd get the finally you'd eventually just get them to well it really doesn't matter yeah yeah eventually they will retreat back to the safety of it doesn't matter it's just one line get over from a certain point of view yeah yeah you can use that from a certain point of view obi one kenobi came here to destroy me stop judging me i feel like he's coming for me have you come to destroy me or be one imagine the like the rest of the scene was just over you on saying you you came here after me you followed me here like do you mean have i do you mean have i let you here to destroy you like are you confused like okay maybe i don't need to destroy you you seem worried he looks confused he goes yes i suppose so he didn't he did spare him obi one kenobi has saved its best until last stories come to an end and that's the last best was the first best was the first episode yeah that's just because they'd ruined the least enriched by a fantastic season finale that was on both action and emotion alike you and migrega excited building just wrong why is this guy talking like the closer look i was about to he sounds like he's way too close to the mic he's doing a very generic like video essayist voice but uh i can i can smell the twinge of of closer look so yeah i can i can sense it smell the cringe cringe of closer look hey the voice does well apparently apparently there's people out there who really like it so screw you all right yeah lots of people like cringe it's great yeah cringe great that's true yeah they like kenobi no kenobi's not cringe it's kind of cringe putting out the legend of the jedi master further delivering some of his best moments as kenobi in an episode what is the best emotional performance you migrega has done as obi one throughout all of his star wars content what would everyone give for that is it and a revenge of the sif i was gonna say yeah probably yeah yeah i like the scene where padme dies for him padme dies for him what where i like the scene for him where padme dies uh yeah no yeah because i mean i think but like i i do think the one where he says i'm sorry for everything ranks pretty high strictly in the he's a good actor category oh yeah he's he's trying but yeah i don't know about it being the best but that's okay you can think that humble i g n merchant note that's a near essential piece of star wars viewing no complete opposite stay away in no way it's essential it's uh they built it to not be essential redundant it's essential they wanted it to be so that it can fit in without ruining anything they did a bad job of that but that's a very bad job this gives you no new really no new information that you couldn't have gotten from just watching the prequels i think it gives you no information that you couldn't have gotten because it contradicts things that you would have never imagined so it actively makes it worse but they did not want that this show actively makes it worse they totally wanted it to be that they would do this in a way that it can sneak in between the trilogies like let me just get it out and get it right in the head um once again obi-wan kanobi serves us heavy doses of nostalgia with the a new oh really freighter chase with laren board how the new hope and spy is a medicine not a drug this is why they keep jangling keys because it works because it works that's like the first compliment he's given it now in his like main section it's good because i recognize stuff from the other things that are in this yeah and what were the visuals when he said nostalgia it was the storm era start the star destroyer bearing down on the ship the most ineffective and unimpressive space chase since the last jedi where the rebellion only survives because the empire forgot that tie fighters exist yeah i was about to say they forget they have short range tie fighters because it's all visual it's referencing a new hope or whatever and i'm just like okay i guess it's whatever a star destroyer chases a ship it's just like hey look it's a new hope reference even though in a new hope it was establishing you know how strong and dangerous the empire was and how they were competent stars for a court ship yeah the stars are a fucking one that fight not this one though like that's just a thing that would make sense to happen in the world no they never should have gotten this far yeah star destroyer should have fucked him up second they like the planet fuck yeah i thought you might like the empire should never got this far because all of them were inept that is also true yeah but then again everyone is inept so nobody can get anywhere yay by a Darth Vader a border star destroyer but the princess isn't his target this time around it's obi one kenobi's decision to evacuate the ship in order to save everyone on board sorry the music is too loud it is too loud and it's totally like so epic though yeah this is epic don't you guys like how epic this is super generic it feels like trailer placed never been this hyped to watch someone talk about a show is an effect on many levels it allows for a suitably tender moment between the Jedi and young Leia but also serves the larger story well by further reinforcing the logic of player calling for kenobi the next time she finds herself in the exact situation if further reinforces her calling for him when she finds herself in the exact same situation so she didn't call him for any other trouble just for when she's in the exact same situation that's how that works god you know it's so weird some people even got to the point where they thought those two weren't even that close of friends as a result of what happens in the a new hope isn't that crazy yeah like when she doesn't really react when he dies that much and the one she refers to him seems to be that she knew him through someone else more new of him more than actually knew him another moment where you asked george what the relationship was prior to the new hope and he's like what do you mean what do you mean i don't know i could see gi in maybe a meeting of them i could believe like they met once or twice and like Leia saw him when he was there talking to bail i could believe yeah the same way that yeah it's up and oh i would do it because yeah i wouldn't even have gone that far i'd have been like nah the only connection they had was in the clone wars and and he's been he's been hermit mode looking after luke he saw her for about six minutes when she was born he was like hello and she went yeah that was the the length of their substantive discussions you and migrega has perfectly re-embodied the role of obi one throughout this fucking music dude well probably be re-embodied the role of and would you say that you and migrega effortlessly just felt like obi one again or did this seem like a really bad performance for the most part because there was there was actually i was almost so good faith with you and migrega as an actor that i i turned off my um my bad acting detective for him but then there was this one line that he'd lived so badly in episode five that i was like what the fuck's going on with you man like there's probably yeah quite more i think if we were to rewatch it i'd probably pick out a bunch of deliveries that felt really dull for him which is crazy because you'd be like what like the prequels i'd be like i don't think he was very dull in the prequels actually uh at least i don't remember noticing as bad um especially because a lot of these scenes he's in aren't like bureaucratic or expositional a lot of them are like very high stakes and about people sacrificing themselves he's like i know you're scared like whoa yeah they have that weird prequely vibe like an alien wrote them well i was trying to say that even with his like crappy lines in the prequels that he usually gave deliveries that were more that's kind of why people like him in the prequels at least from what i thought apparently there's plenty of people who think the other the opposite that uh he gave a bit of life to some of the lines like you know like another happy landing he could have just said that's another happy landing but he he lives in a way that's like oh he's fun look at him go yay he's delivering the leadership we've come to expect from the characters leadership doesn't he only do that once in like episode five and he's really crap at it he says like if we were to fight we will we will lose or something like he tells them housing speech yeah like and you might be like well it's true it's like that's not how that works you don't just like you think of think of theodin okay he makes the idea that we're gonna lose a fucking bolstering thing and with kenobi he's like right look guys we're fucked yeah we're fucked yeah i guess he said look guys we're fucked but i i sent a 10 year old into the vent and she's gonna take care of it we got hope on our side hope is like the sun i trust her i said i trust her it means it's gonna work oh that was tell anyone tell her what to do what what do you mean does she know how this works and i guess so that was even worse because the first thing he said about that too roken was do as she says you as yeah it's like uh no man she's 10 no she is 10 and i honestly i just kind of hate her and and you know what you you haven't been great either everyone you've been kind of yeah all things considered i think the legends greatly exaggerated your uh performance everyone's like uh actually i rescued her from inquisitorious 40 torius and they'd be like yeah and look where we are now it wasn't that great i was there and i don't believe you yeah we saw the whole thing and i don't believe it for a fucking second dude in fact i think you're a mole like why else would they let that happen dude if he had said that would have been funny a drunk obi one after the victorious sort of thing the empire don't chase him in a bar he's like i fucking put her in a trench go next to me and it worked botan's like no way he's like i took a photo i knew no one would believe me but we didn't look look at this this is so silly oh my god wow but also showing a softer side his relationship with leia played charmingly by vivian lyra blair formed the crux of earlier episodes but formed the crux of earlier episodes does he mean that the quality of the earlier ones relied on their relationship they didn't have one was non-existent in episode one i just seems like purple pros why don't you tell the audience what people pros is it's just um overly flowery language um doesn't really convey what you mean clearly just kind of excessive because i'm a little bit confused by it um it's the way it sounds smart while saying let me give you a better definition so no not purple pros i'm confused by what he's saying like the idea of the show relies on their relationship to be it's like in episode two half of it's not even uh with them and so it's like oh yeah by early episodes i'm not referring to one or two out of six it's like oh it's fanboy language for saying the first few episodes it was just them together doing stuff which would you want it though sometimes i wonder about these short shows where people are almost convinced that they're longer than they actually are like they go super fucking fast this was six episodes barely anything happened um but i guess some people have been convinced like oh man do you remember all the way back when they met that was so awesome it's like oh yeah five minutes ago yeah yeah like i mentioned before like cheer nobles only five episodes and it feels like ten because so much is happening i guess to be fair was three foot chases ago though yeah a lot of chases have happened since then that's true i've chased many small girls and i actually um through the woods i'm sort of passing out here i'm very tired and i'm just gonna hop out wow you just we just started i know i know i i fit enough more than i can chew in an hour well yeah you're lucky because today we have a bunch of people otherwise i would have been like that's a j i am no longer friends i won't be doing that uh no any friends well you have done well you say i actually kind of go as well i've just had a family emergency come up oh god damn it oh god what's yeah that's why i was muted for a second yeah i don't think i'm gonna be able to stick around well hey we i want i want to i want to rip into our gem but this might be important no yeah absolutely metal what's happening with you mel you have to go too right right what no okay anyway um well yeah well before you both go is there anything you guys want to talk about in terms of work you're getting up to plans you got for the future uh jade you want to go first i was way for jade to say no i quit i've forgotten what i'm i'm doing like uh stuff you know you guys know this i'm i've been on here before i'm very tired jaxy everyone all right all right okay bye jade so i yeah i've i've got a big video um in the works i meant to have it out a bit earlier but stuff's happened it should be out uh by the end of the month it's going to be something like 15 minutes long and it's going to be an absolute banger uh but yeah for now i'm going to have to log off to make myself more available uh in case this is serious oh no it's all righty you're you're welcome to come back if you have a chance but if not that's okay we've uh we've enjoyed having a chat with you for as long as we did we'll see you the next time we see it whatever that may be all right in uh enjoy the rest of this oh i'm sure we will this oh yeah this will be great this is a good stuff all right so nice to meet you mark yeah good to meet you too see you jade i'll see you guys later bye bye ideals well seven yes i can stay i guess i can stay that's great that's great news i'm very happy about that awesome so anyway i guess we'll continue the earlier episodes but was neglected in recent music it's therefore great it's so loud i'm trying to think of what's more annoying the like badly matching tone of it or the fact that it's so loud i'm like they're both pretty bad as elements but you know they do feed into each other i don't think we might be trying to mix it for phones for phones so that you can still hear the music even if you're just listening to it on a phone or it's like because we're on headphones i'm assuming right now so even on a phone i want to listen to the review and not the music yeah but like a phone speaker versus like headphones that are going right into your ear that the music will sound much further into the background than it will for us now so they might have said okay most people are listening to it this way then we'll make it so that they can see the the artistic choice we made by putting this overly epic music behind our crap review it could be it could be great to see them get a dedicated moment to say their farewell for now and wrap a bow on a story this high praise what high praise yeah they got a moment they got a seed to say goodbye to each other the two main characters got to say goodbye can you imagine a show doing that a tv show yeah that's that's what we required to do at this point it's like the other tick boxes they said hello to each other and there was a scene in which they discussed a topic like man you're knocking out of the park and no be great good shit this is like a person who doesn't know what film is like basic storytelling things that are practically but like just essential almost and they're like wow they did that thing that you have to do that's incredible well I wouldn't be surprised the other reviews were like what's interesting about the Obi-Wan Kenobi show is that it didn't necessarily require action scenes and yet they are in here and they are very exciting I could say that you'd be like yeah calm down with that praise for now and wrap a bow on a story that is genuinely in harm I'm assuming I can't get copyright strike for this fucking song right I imagine it's like royalty-free royalty-free epic music amazing what's their understanding of the characters and their connection to one another further than the films sometimes I want I want to stop people when they say this sort of thing and say like no describe these two people to me really just tell me about them just to see what they'd sort of say after all that we've seen of them quote unquote then like tell me about who they are in this show less so describing their relationship but I think you could describe traits for Obi-Wan but you'd enter problems because you'd establish certain things that we were like well what about the scene where he does blah blah blah and then they'd be like well he but that's because he uh he found out okay well you're you're kind of accepting everything the show wants you to think of face balance yeah this is what the show wants you to think but like whether it's supported by what's in the show totally different question among the many things this series ruined is the reputation of the lightsaber uh baseball bat please give it a baseball bat by now yeah standing of the characters and their connection to one another can you imagine Qui-Gon Jinn with the lightsaber a disney lightsaber just like banging it against the the blast store in trying to break it down to my baseball bat open up in there actually like starts to break the wall apart yes i'll thank god join it because i'm getting tired well for now and wrap a bow on a story that has genuinely enhanced our understanding of the characters and their connection to one another further than the film this is it i disagree yeah it is only it's only creating what you're supposed to say the understanding they have for each other as characters in the films compared to the films like they ever did and it's so funny to do that when it's like yeah there was more fights in this show between these two characters being Vader and Obi-Wan than there was ever in the films also making a comment like that or something where you're just like what are you talking that's just something that didn't happen in the films compared to the yeah exactly because because what you say is oh they've created like a new dynamic to or they've expanded on the relationship that uh Obi-Wan had with Leia it's like they didn't seem to have one yeah um it seemed like they didn't really know each other that well hence bringing to be fair expanding and made it up basically the same these days yeah you know it would be like you know what the films lacked Tala films just didn't have her and that's why the show's good we got to know about her got sacrificed herself load a bot he wasn't in the films loader bot finally gets the story of her and you got two episodes but he didn't say anything a lot of said with his actions and his character exactly oh no i was saying he didn't say anything as a positive that's why he wasn't ruined by dialogue the other inescapable bond the show centers around is obviously between vader and his former master oh yeah i think that might pop up i need to hear that again center parts that are under the characters and their connection to one another further than the films ever did the other inescapable bond the show centers around is obviously between vader and his former master the other does it center around it so did he say the other bond it centers around bond bond okay all right i mean bond is an interesting word to use to describe their relationship i just think it's funny that in your review of the konobi series it's been plastered with vader like there's a promotional thing he's like oh yes the other thing that gets brought up in this is obi-wan and konobi and vader you're like uh-huh yeah yeah that's it it's not the focus though riva would be the focus this is the b part she hasn't even been mentioned yet this gets resolved like halfway through the episode riva then gets the rest oh yeah right between vader and his former master vader's obsession leads to another duel between the two and the moment obi-wan silently equips his lightsaber signals were in for a good time what do you mean silently time he ran away that was quiet i didn't hear a thing activate the lightsaber famously silent i guess they're saying he doesn't say anything what he does yeah he does he says just as much as he always says a line i think he says i will do what i must right oh yeah that makes no sense unless the guy is saying like he didn't say i am no turning on my weapon something like it's an anime move lightsaber activate under storm and five minutes later he turns it off silently gripped his saber just like like everyone ever how do you loudly grab a lightsaber i think obi-wan kanobi activates his lightsaber with the exaggerated swagger of a black team that's why the show's so popular i will do what i must very much not silent so i don't know what he's saying but he did the thing that's the thing i guess is it that he's like he's silent because he doesn't say anything before he hits the button even though he says something about three seconds later i would say that the review was just privacy incorrectly that's all is it something or is that lightsaber a little longer than i remember oh maybe it's the angle maybe everyone's just shorter than you remember no longer than longer than the one at the end of mandalorian season also wait not the blade the uh the handle oh the handle yeah that is kind of long oh oh wow yeah that is uh that's a long boy is it just me or is that because i can't remember how i'd like to see a comparison with the prequel lightsaber see if it's how long is thinner than the regular like the standard ones look right but thinner but it sounds not long that's like a friggin swine hinder grip that's thanks big uh obi-wan grievous because he does the same pose so that'll be oh but it's a different angle it's not going to help figure out no you're a short lightsaber some people saying it's thicker interesting hey no that's about right i i genuinely don't know i also don't really care i'm just curious if they made them different because uh of course these are different tech compared to the like literally as in they they make their own light right i'm assuming he's using the disney ones so i assume there's this slightly different creation behind him he's got to be room in the handle to have the batteries in there possibly more girth oh yes oh no it's it's it's pretty long yeah normally i'm in you die the fight delivers in all regards and now stands as the best between the two stop no stop fuck off oh you saw them swinging lightsabers and throwing rocks at each other and somehow being invincible and then yeah oh my god the best ever yeah fuck off episode four let us program find what uh what his reasoning would be because i am curious is it just gonna be if he appeals to just what they say at the end of it i don't know um but you know i just let's let's see what this this golden reasoning would be because i think most people would already cite that uh they prefer moose afar let alone uh a new hopes fight this one i find awkward because uh i there's there's so much that i don't understand about this one first and foremost being that i don't understand how beta lost really yeah it seems to me that they just decided obi one is now more powerful than he is and you're like okay fine i don't know it wasn't a clever way in the case of all the power levels that are going on just fucked just fucked i feel like and then uh you have an instance of vader just drops rocks on him and is like doesn't care if he's alive or dead just leaves like that's weird then you have kenobi not killing vader which is also really weird when that was like his whole thing here and what he was supposed to do last time and when he doesn't do it it leads to people dying and now that he hasn't done it again everyone vader fucking kills from now on it should also be weighing on obi one uh this is what i mean there's so many things about this fight and then i don't even talk about choreography uh i wasn't a fan yeah i was not at all impressed with this fight but also hi cj hello guys um sorry about that yeah everything it's okay not and it's not an emergency everything's fine so i can i can come back sweet um jay's not allowed back though okay we'll let you in well fuck jay there you go that's the spirit uh what did i what did i miss i saw a chat was popping off really guess they said that this is the best vader obi one fight in all the stars um which is you know that can trigger people all right it's expected it's debatable um i i feel like the most of our fight and the new hope one beats this one out but that's you know that's just one man's opinion um also clearly the best obi one vader fight was in episode three of the series i was top notch oh god that was so good the one they had the dirt pile yeah the dirt pile the same fire got lit extinguish and then relit and couldn't extinguish it that second time that's too much fire too hard that is that wreaked a budget constraints to me because it just seemed to me like they they were only able to afford one pyrotechnic rig so it's like well we can put fire here but that's the only spot that we can have fire it's like we need fire twice well i guess it's it's going to be there twice then rolling back a little bit delivers in all regards and now stands as the best between the two channeling the tension and grandiose nature of mustafar without the need for gymnastics or cheesy one liners star damn without the need for gymnastics yeah fuck gymnastics just walk around yeah like it like there was technically gymnastics and baspin uh when you do people jump in different different areas like is that just is that just bad now of that what we've decided what about the throne room fight and luke does a backflip gymnastics oh i thought you meant when i thought you meant like in palpatine's office when he spins oh that was incredible gymnastics no the nine that's why i mean gymnastics is just not inherently bad at all the end place in attack but yeah i don't know just the dark rock planet and then the awkward cuts and they just do like basic swings it's like yeah that's just not doing much for me but okay if it does does all the things for you when you see it shaky yeah they like having their fights in darkness to let the the lights of the the swords give you a bonus artistry point i think uh well yeah because there's probably gonna be like a video essay talking about how clever it was that when he was like i killed anika the skywalker and it's like look the light's going red it's evil yeah and when he's like i'm sorry anika and it's all blue and blue is a good color but then when he's like nami it goes red that red's a bad color so that does that is artistic parrot and i'm coming the green light on uh on vaults face a lot more subtle and also that's like his colors super is what one of these not like the other oh uh like vaults color is green so i'll hit his colors up i thought you were saying cut listen i was like how does this i think he was saying i think he was saying color scheme and then cut out i want to see a lightsaber cut less and it's just bent you just see it bend and get a pirate jedi okay let's do it and also blending it with the closeness of their eventual showdown on the death star it's an exciting battle that shows obi-wan's strength has returned well that was stated why and why did that happen yeah tell me why did that happen why was it gone why wasn't even gone i just wasn't strong enough to kill this guy by throwing many many many bold rock boulders at him is it just weird or because we go from moving this little thing on the table to all these rocks and like a i don't know the kind of like one and a half episodes the end of his lightsaber is getting a bit uh weak there yeah there's a little uh you look i can see it on the on the youtube stream i can't see it on the one together unless i'm slightly out of sync oh it could be the one different frame but yeah i just i don't know it's funny to be that it's like it does yeah maybe it's representative of how he's losing this battle you know the tips not as hard as getting smaller imagine lightsabers go floppy when they're losing oh damn it that is that a family go fight joke thing isn't it oh it is yeah when the old i can't remember his name the old guy when he was on her about the pov yeah her but yeah her it was her better obi one than this obi one was probably probably yeah but yeah this this i just like the it is just accepted without question at all it's like obi one is so awesome because he gets his power back and then you're like why it's like i wonder if they could answer that because you'd have to draw it back to um i guess when tala told him in episode five the you need he's it'll be okay or whatever you said yeah that's like the only implications we get like a prep talk or pep talk or whatever again it feels like we're missing that that quaggon scene where he would have told him about it i mean there was like two scenes in the last episode we were like oh now no quaggon's gonna show up right like this makes sense when you want to put it here it's like no no like i actually can't believe that they thought that it would but i surely that was a conversation they had in the writer's room when should quaggon show up and someone ideally would have put off the idea maybe he should show up to uh help obi one give him the motivation he needs to see his mission through to the and then someone else said no that's a bad idea we need we need the 10 year old girl to be the one who inspires him you know quaggon at the end for 10 seconds i wouldn't be surprised at this point if the first suggestion was an after-credits scene like oh yeah because there's a recognition that at this point your after-credits or post-credits scene is where you have a character show up that everybody recognizes things cool rather than at a story appropriate moment but um yeah as this pointed out as well it's like man obi one probably should have like fucking fought the emperor apparently you could have taken him well he should have killed he should have killed Darth Vader um which time there's just no i i'm so curious like the people who like the show how they would rationalize him if if your point of praise for how this show ties into the um ot is oh see look he said Darth see he's he's he's he's written him off now if he's written him off why didn't he kill him why'd he let him live yeah that was always the problem that they had in this fight scene that we i think we talked about in like previous episodes like their final fight you're gonna have to explain how he manages to lose but also doesn't die and you know in your head you're thinking oh well it could just be that when vader starts to lose the his his troopers or whatever come and save him before or go and finish him off or something or or the planet splits right in between yeah to separate them so that they don't have to make that decision yeah you could do that up to your right and there's fighting it's like a draw and they barely get away both or something and so yeah i think all fans have to work with is he was too sad couldn't do it he was too sad yay another thing with sadness right well you can get anything done with that i don't think it's substantive in any way it's because Obi-Wan at this point would be very fucking aware of what decisions like that end up doing to the world and well look at what happened the last time you didn't finish the job you know like yeah even those the guy whose neck he saw get broken it's like if you'd finished Anakin off in mustafar that guy be alive be alive what if his parents were encouraged to have sex because of the mustafar fight or it could be some kind of connection maybe there could be a connection where he only lived because he let Anakin go ah the mercy of the Jedi just makes me so horny this is what the parents are saying we should have the sex and make a person who grows up very quickly it'd be a strange storyline but you know disney might be very odd but honestly i take anything over kanovi i don't know the mustafar fight was pretty hot oh it was displaying it in an impressive fashion by slinging boulders at vader but he's taking on an elden ring boss with a sorcery heavy build wow people will love this reference i love elden ring people will find it especially satisfying when knowing that vader can hold a whole starship as it's trying to get passed away but he can't deal with the boulder oh bad someone just sent me a little list here of igntv scores i'll post it so you're looking to the mind of madness you heard it here kanovi is better than chernobyl no wow oh my god uh oh and falcon the winter soldier halo and moon night are also in the category i don't understand seven they think that halo and blind man are as good as each other that's insane what is this category what does it mean oh god because as you scroll over they're smiling friends are six what no it's unreviewed oh unreviewed okay oh man i love that you don't do the game game with her on season eight is six and you go oh my god that's ridiculous but it's in the same category as batwoman you're like oh jesus uh no i'm just confused your six is al like two yeah they think voice season two is like what a nine like yeah nine dude nine oh god i didn't realize the boba fat finale is a nine the finale is a nine show like an owl the one that basically just overwrote Mandalorian season one and two it's kind of said that none of that mattered because apparently grogu is not going to become a jedi after all they realized they wanted money okay and that it works when you have the little cute baby with the cool badass totally not idiot bounty hunter i guess so but what story are you telling at this point i mean i know they don't know so that was rhetorical like skinwalker luke has to get a bunch of students killed you can't have baby grogu what happened skinwalker luke it's just skinwalker luke is what he is now he's he's he will forever be skinwalker luke with strange creature perving the face and the voice of something that isn't theirs hello i'm luke and you're like no no made a force be with you get up always get back up the force is strong in you look looks at something inspiring kind of i cried i choose between your friend and me right now or get out i don't remember like the only dialogue i remember from luke is just making fun of it for how badly it doesn't sound like a human i don't like it none of it is the kind of i'm like oh that's an interesting thing he said like no say anything interesting skywalker presumed lines yeah like they're guessing at what he might say because it's just not him at all oh gosh well it's funny as well because some of us are like well you agree with our arcade word right it's like well i wouldn't give it a 10 but yeah i guess i'll allow that it's yeah what else you got the moonlit planet provides a cinematic backdrop like do we call that moonlit really it's no i i mean it's not that's some shitty moonlight it's not even a crescent moon it's like a little yeah it's a new moon twig moon it's not this is it's not moonlit it's bright waxing gibbous um i think that's yeah because it's whining as well it could be whining it could be the other way around it looks like the lights coming from somewhere else no it is it is waning never twilight moon phases also people are saying that they're fighting on the moon like the planet is a moon is that right or is i thought it was i thought it was i thought it was so if they're fighting on a moon it means all light on that planet is moonlight but yeah there's a moon in the background though right so unless they're the moon has a moon it's another point on the schedule what the fuck is wrong with me just just go and ignore me it's fine i'm set a seizure tick backdrop for the occasion once again proving every lightsaber drill is greatly enhanced by taking place in darkness no you said the thing unless you do it for everyone i don't understand isn't one of the all-time favorite fights the dathmore one that is not in darkness that's pretty well-lit yeah also with how bright those things are i wouldn't want to fight in the dark that would get extremely tough to like blinding in fact having that bright light and their bright light that might be confusing overly gross now i'm thinking about all the lightsabers would be much better for that even returning to that throne room fight i wouldn't call that like fighting in darkness like this is like i felt like we could see everything pretty clearly um this one yeah it's a bit more it was just a the room's color was darker which means it didn't seem as bright but everything was there clearly like because because luke hides in the shadows so there's clearly a very distinct differentiation between the lit areas and the dark areas and i remember thinking when i saw attack the clones the first time that when dooku and anakin fight after he breaks one of the lights i was like oh wow have we done this before where it's like almost pitch pitch black and they're using their lightsabers as the only source of light really in that in that moment but like it feels like we did that again and again in this show and it felt like an excuse to avoid looking too deep into how this fight is even going so red and blue can flood the screen with every swing natalie holt's rework theme swell in the big moments providing music fit for the occasion even if a small part of me really wanted jewel of the fates to drop why would why well out of why would it be jewel of the fates why wouldn't it be because that's i remember it you remember this is a fun song isn't that reason enough i guess literally yet can we throw in the star wars theme too i i just i guess i just find that amusing it's like yeah like i know we all like all of the fates but jewel of the fates was pliagon and obi one versus star them all what does that have to do with because it's a star wars put it in the cantina song that would have been appropriate because it shows such a fucking joke i love the fight between anakin obi one and mustafar is about the heroes and uh do all the fates is it not it is well they do jewel of the fates when yoda's fighting on the emperor that's when they injected in which i think kind of you can draw something out but i i i guess like you could put it here and argue something i just at this point it really does feel like i just like the song put it in i put it in the trailer i just want to hear it again here put in hell's bells i like that song just put in random songs i don't know can you imagine tetris theme rude sandstorm thing to this fight i actually think some music from jojo's bizarre adventure fight might actually make this scene better oh it would be funnier but guile's theme that's what we're gonna do guile's theme goes with everything all of its glory the choreography is yet again a fantastic marriage of aggression no come on come on come on oh fantastic marriage i just about to get a divorce maybe let's be honest you would have said the same thing about the throne room fight in tlj and it's all fine quote unquote if you don't give a shit at all about choreography but don't claim it's really good unless of course you can give me some references that maybe i had misunderstood this maybe i don't understand how good the choreography is maybe shad could tell us it's actually incredible i just don't see it because um you know it it looked clonkers fuck strained embracing a dynamic combination of saw play and force powers the most effective part of the show it's not dynamic though it's very clearly there's there's like a it's almost like you hit a point where it switches entirely into like force power i don't even think you're you're trying to pick it apart i think this is totally fucking right if if we had it so that there was this really cool like long shot of kenobi coming at him maybe you know like top right then top left and a rock from behind is lifting up because kenobi's moving it himself and then it fires into the back of vader while he's trying to block these two saber attacks he actually does get up a four shield or something and they're both at that level where there's like a force fight happening at the same time as the saber fight but they're all relatively lower scale i'll be like that would be really cool and something we haven't really seen before and something i can believe these two are capable of um but no it's not like that it's very much this is saber time this is force time this is save the time this is force time which is not what i call dynamic you can't just fire off your force abilities at the beginning of the fight you got to work up your combo meter and when your gauge fills then you exactly you get your super moves yeah you have to press a b a b a b a like instead of just a a a a a that works down is not the fight itself however but the word spoken between the two old friends once faded away it's gonna be in the background right now i was about to actually ask that yeah it sounds familiar but it could be like i think that's generally copyright free vision or something for a moment in time this all consuming darkness retreats to reveal that a part of anakin remains a theory isn't the point of the scene that it doesn't know the point is that it doesn't remain that's the whole point of the scene yeah it's kind of strange that you fuck that up and that's the whole point of the scene like you're trying to pray but that's fine you work for ig and who gives a shit he that's their catch phrase like who gives a shit you and mcgregor is especially superb as you really feel the sadness in ob one his regrets mirroring anakin's anger man what are we in great to have explored that in this season yeah instead of pretending as though you did god we're right mirroring anakin's anger even though apparently ob one let's go of his regret and i guess anakin keeps darth vader also just don't call him anakin the whole point is that anakin's not here anymore it's weird you fucked up twice it's uh if you were gonna try and argue from ob one's perspective and he learns in this moment that anakin's gone it's like that'd be one thing but it seems like the reviewer thinks this is still at least somewhat anakin we're just like no the point is that it's vader's voice slipping in and out of both hayden christianson's and james old jones is a fantastic vader's voice slipping in out of both hayden christianson and james ill jones is like wait you've separated them out into three what's the difference between vader's voice and james ill jones's voice uh obviously if we're ignoring the fact that re-speecher is a thing james oral jones's voice is supposed to be hayden christianson's voice has filtered through the darth vader yeah that's what i'm saying like that's why i'm confused well i think in this scene though you're kind of hearing them both at the same time but it was the same thing they did with the clone clone wars voice actor and rebels it's just well yeah it's a cool effect it's like yeah it's kind of it's vader and anakin because you can kind of hear the voice not going through the vocoder respirator thing at the end but obi-wan obi-wan can only be in the ongoing battle within him a fight the dark side is definitely winning at least for now no the whole point is it has it's just vader why do you keep saying this just stop it the scene ends with obi-wan saying my friend is truly dead what are you why you saying it stop this realization that anakin is already considered dead by vader is seemingly enough resolution for obi-wan yeah which is nonsense considering he leaves oh well i guess anakin's gone in your vader it's like we've pretended that the whole reason he came here wasn't to actually deal with vader and then he finds out vader is all there is and decides from that that he'll leave him alone that doesn't make any sense yeah remember how he said he would do what he must he didn't he didn't he didn't oh you're right he didn't do it he's a fucking liar from a certain point of view that's where he gets this from a certain point of view thing he said my father was dead with the former jedi not his new sif form walking away may well give him the satisfaction and closure he needs but why why would it give him any of those things it would be the opposite of those yeah i'm gonna let you keep existing and living and doing horrible things and also it's kind of my fault but not really but i think so yeah now it's definitely at least at least on lucifer he had good reason to have assumed anakin was dead from what he did but it turns out he wasn't like okay you know because i can i consider it reasonable that you would expect anakin to have died from that but this one he is very much alive he's looking at you he's giving you a little lie this too you should probably deal with this it over was like i don't want to oh i'll leave him him realizing that his old friend is dead and it's just vader now that gives him even less reason to walk away yep yeah he should kill him that's why everyone should be like okay yeah the point of this scene was you're executing vader and then you you you pause because you're like wait is anakin still in there and it's like no actually no not at all that he's like oh anakin's definitely not in there all right then bye this uh see later oh it's just i pulled up twitter and this feels funny considering that we're talking about dart vader retweet if you want to dart vader disney plus series with hayden christian retweeted by boogie but like it's not he's not really going to be in it though it's just going to be james on jones's voice with an ai and then he might be in the world until they mean that open again i would feel as far as saying james opens in costume it was a complete i mean we've said this about basically every element in the show but it was a complete fucking way springing back hayden just for the what like five minutes of hayden content across the six episodes if that boy but you can market that shit you can market that really well i feel bad for the guy like in all of his promotional stuff he's just super excited to be a part of this it's like why couldn't you actually let him you know really flesh out anakin really give it a shot and if you like have you guys ever seen the show lost i'm not talking about the ending i'm just talking about the structure of the episodes how they usually have a present day thing happening and then there'll be a flashback that takes place over the whole episode so i think if they did that and had most of the story be about obi-wan and anakin throughout the clone wars flashing back doing either deaging or whatever just makeup like as you guys were saying they both look pretty good and then have that reflect a story where they don't meet in the present day and i think that you could have kept things very focused on their relationship and very focused on character and it would have been interesting and even if it turned out as bad as this i think it still would have at least made sense that they tried something that there are so many formats that are so much better like you can get pretty experimental with the imaginal six episodes were a conversation with kwaigon about six elements of how obi-wan chose to train anakin and then we'd get flashbacks to how that was relevant to whatever adventures in the clone wars or even before then even when he was like you know super young kid and stuff and and the whole thing the whole series is just him understanding how anakin happened yeah would have been incredible i mean even if again even if they failed on the execution that would have just been a good idea to explore whereas i can't think of anything to pull from the story that was told here it's like well now we finally know how leo was kidnapped that time and one of the inquisitors kind of became good or at least not evil for a moment yay i guess uh it's kind of weird that riva just doesn't get mentioned ever and all of rebels by anybody huh when she played such a significant role he almost killed the grinding quiz but that was totally a part of his plan because he knew that rage for revenge would keep him alive just right yeah just being lad help but feel like finishing him off would have saved the galaxy a whole lot of trouble down the line oh sometimes you get those little little glimpses of like but that how is that not a problem to that guy no it's fine it's fine shut up because it's fine this was epic i wouldn't be surprised if on set they all looked at you weirdly when you point that out they're like we can't have him kill him that wouldn't make any sense and you're like yeah it's weird how you've written yourself here isn't it the finale does a reasonably good job at upping the stakes and throwing a dash of jeopardy into the mix especially when we know that every main character all the way down from kenobi to aunt beru is going to survive beru beru in what property is that beru a main character come on man attack of the cologne she's like this one like i mean i guess she fights off a sith lord which i mean come on he gives her a good thwap to the face i lord even here like this whole show she's probably got like four minutes screen time i don't know if i'd call that a main character shut up she's she's awesome okay she's my new favorite some information was unclear was always going to be reaver now a hobbling husk of her former self after her humbling at the hands of vader she stopped uh oh yeah what was that humbling oh well he ran her through with a lightsaber yo it didn't kill her because you know i was seeing comments about that people were like he leaves it in for a good five seconds that would have melted all of her insides this is like yeah probably but don't worry about it it's fine the last homestead like something out of a slasher film hunting for luke to sell something out of revenge on anakin wait he said revenge on anakin the current theory from everybody is that it's revenge on obi one i like how we have so many theories my favorite i don't know how the popular one would be revenge on obi one when obi one specifically set up circumstances so that she could get revenge i can explain this okay because this is so weird like if i were to try and construct some kind of video on this i'd have to go look in in all the different threads of discussions but the overall point which will let's call it the theme of what i'm going to be talking about is nobody fucking knows what the hell is going on with reaver in the finale nobody everyone's very confused which is a great bit of storytelling um so you'd first assume that she wants revenge on anakin and therefore she's gonna kill his son that's like the baseline quick assumption everyone has the problem with that is she has no reason to know that that kid is anakin's son yeah nothing that would have told her that in any way shape or form so it can't really be that so what is it then and it's like well a lot of people have been coming out with the theory that because she organized you know when she said obi one get taken inside by two storm troopers that was her saying i agree to your terms you and i will kill vader together i'll put you inside with two storm troopers you can easily deal with them because they're literally useless and then you and i will take down vader when he comes and obi one leaves and so she has to fight him on her own and then she gets stabbed and so she hates obi one for that and so then she wants to kill this kid because she knows obi one cares about this kid that is the current theory that i've seen and i think that's stronger than the revenge on anakin however it was still her decision to attack vader without help it's just i don't know irrational well yeah and then and then we get to the other half of it it's like wait so you're you're getting revenge on obi one for not helping you kill anakin by killing some kid that has nothing to do with any of this what the fuck is wrong with you yeah like if we're meant to have this character set up for a redemption story this is not the way to do it and so yeah uh there are some people out there like what are you talking about it's obviously revenge on anakin and then other people like no it's revenge on obi one because she obviously the story is it's bad writing nobody knows what it is like that i i mean i think the writers would hesitate to answer at this point they'd be like oh well uh revenge on owen because he was mean it's it's um it's the same situation as kylo ren she's confused and that's perceived as complex but why don't she just why don't you just ignore all the mechanics and agree that it's incredible writing because she's just like anakin but she chose not to kill the youngling right i don't even i don't even yeah it must be funny right because they're sitting there like we did all of the things we did all the things that they did back in the day for vader and everyone likes vader why don't they like ours what's wrong with mine yeah like you think that you made the same thing but the moving parts all of the component pieces they're just they're not the same it's the simpsons beam why does mine look like that he just like well there's a couple things he's fucked up screwy because he charges out it with an umbrella because yeah everyone loves to draw the parallels between reaver and vader but it's just like why do we keep doing that with like every shitty character who's like well if you look at it really broadly they kind of match this other person you really like and what's the difference oh she's a girl i see i see it all now it's like no all the guy characters are shitting this too don't worry oh yeah everyone's loser i hate everyone regardless it's a great unifier of disney's done it this is going to be destroyed with one scene just probably you're not i think it was pretty bad before that but that was the one that's right yeah yeah you just wonder why this is if you made that fucking message yeah i'm already captured here's this message for you something that's not even in our coverage but it's so totally true why the fuck didn't obi one delete his messages oh yeah i'm assuming you can do that he doesn't know how to delete the messages on his cell phone at that point you just have to fucking destroy that thing yeah that exactly that's such high value information leaving the device in fact if you do delete it is risky he gave it to harger and harger just dropped it right man that probably should mean to have a scene how important it is we never seen with leia where he says leia how do i change my ring tone i guess this is how does um how how like when giving a positive review to this show do you reconcile the fact that obi one utterly failed at his mission like he failed um if reba could have killed luke she she came very close to doing it he nearly failed as far as far as he did fail because he wasn't there protect him when he needed to like how do you how do you walk away from the show like ah yes obi one he's really been enriched uh by this story when he failed at the mission he was given by yota they don't address that they treated as though he never did fail because he beat vader in a fight and that was awesome yeah all the while ignoring that while that was happening luke was being pursued by like this crazy person just trying to think that's one of the most frustrated element he's like i'm done with vader i'm gonna go home and he's like oh i sense luke is in trouble bue all right i'm here it's like what hang on like that should have taken way longer like a while or even the premise the premise even from the first ah god dog sorry um the premise even at the first episode though was sorry no an actual though i mean no whoa whoa another actual dog oh god all right now it's been great guys thanks for having me on again i'll see later it's fighting racism yeah i was saying though that the the original premise of the show was obi one flat out saying okay i'm gonna leave luke when it just so happened that i had a confrontation with sith inquisitors in the town i live in yeah it's just like off the bat it's like wait hold on how does any of this sound like a good idea to any of you always do this absolutely unreal if if i were obi one i come back and i don't know about anything that's happened and they summarize it to me is there was an inquisitor bunch people in town searching for jedi and that's like right next to where we live she even nearly killed owen specifically um then there was this she actually eventually found out where we live and came to kill us specifically knocked us both out found luke and was like right next to him almost killed him and and we just you know it's just like you just gotta leave tattooing there's no other option and and they just stay they chill and even having beru argue like it's time we fight the sith enough running i'm not leaving my home i don't believe you don't believe anybody would ever say that unless sith just suck which uh i guess she she says the same thing about some storm troopers a few years later i didn't work out did it even though it should have with how everything works now but incredible uh utterly do such a great job they should have moved away from tattooing for so many reasons but uh a sith visiting the homestead that's pretty high up there i'd say a good reason to leave this plotline serves its purpose and you know what is fucking crazy about this is like yeah well you know what maybe they don't have the means to do that's like yeah it's not like they have a friend who's the fucking king of a whole planet that's really prosperous or anything that guy couldn't help even though that's part of his message was being like i will go to tattooing and help them with the boy like why are you telling me this in a message that's gonna be heard by every sith across the universe now just to make sure can i get confirmation that you lived at uh these coordinates right because i don't want to go to the wrong farm just let me know if the the coordinates i just gave you here the correct one i think that was just being thorough one of the top colors was like we just needed that extra line is like in case you didn't understand obi-wan i'm going to see luke skywalker adikin's son at 123 desert street with on on peru and uncle and live okay i also put the address on one of those looks like an igloo i also put the address on one of those rebel walls just in case you forget them so you can get them there holds up a little picture that has the address can you see that okay good good every form of communication he sends it out to the whole universe he probably put it in fortnite emperor style god yep that's a thing that happened let's not forget that a satisfaction you gotta play fortnite for your star wars canon oh yeah some thought of revenge on anakin this plotline serves its purpose in giving reaver a satisfactory if not predictable into her story why is it predictable i mean not okay so we were the reason it's predictable is because of the fact that it's so inept like we were like this is what they'll do because they don't know how to do anything else i think he did he satisfactory if not predictable doesn't do you mean predictable because we know that this was um she was gonna end or did he think it's unpredictable but this was gonna happen i think i think what he means to say is it's satisfactory despite being predictable yeah the predictable aspect of sorry go ahead oh it's just i thought it adds doesn't matter it's not being no go ahead i was saying though the predictable aspects of it i think are if you've seen a lot of disney star wars stuff because both um Jedi fallen order and battlefront too had a strong female elite imperial soldier or sith lord or whatever it would be that eventually turns to the light side at the end because it's they can't have her just be i mean so yeah like um i think i even pushed back on the idea that it would happen when we first saw the trailer because i was like come on it's not going to be that like again or rather just it just seems so common for them to do is a storytelling idea but um i think the part was funny it to me is that if the writer sat you down during the finale and showed her towering over luke with the lightsaber active and they're like will she kill him what do you guys think i just feel like why would she kill him also we know that you can't he's not well ignoring that for the sake of you know trying to be as good faith as possible just it's like you know what what reasoning could it be that would stop it from sliding down an image what reason does she have to do it i don't understand nobody does why she's here no one knows what's happening flip a coin who knows what the thing will be and then having it be like you want me to celebrate her but getting luke out of the danger she put him in i don't know feels a bit awkward and almost seeing her torture leia and killing people and being a horrible person for probably i don't know 10 years or something yeah i guess yeah i i i hope she she's she stays good yeah go horrible person she hates like she participated in it to get revenge i don't like and there was barely any addressing of that no she's got a lot of work to do to like earn redemption a lot of blood on her hands oh god well she if she gets her own show and it will be terrible but the good version would just have it racked with guilt and the ghost of her past constantly haunting her and how she comes in to her even with the uh the really bad starting point for the character you would have to do this story just fully acknowledging the nature of like what she's done and the redemption like that's a long way off or maybe it's a thing you do consistently and it's not a matter of ah you're good now you're redeemed you've you've crossed the threshold of bad to good um but i mean it'll be like a full redemption by the end of the season maybe even halfway through you have become good you now have access to these abilities correct me if i'm wrong has it not well is it not established that like she did a lot of really awful things as an inquisitor like killing yeah yeah as an innocent woman's hand off right she's considered the most unruly and like crazy and bloodthirsty inquisitor even the other inquisitors are like come the fuck down it's insane to me that they did that i don't know what the fuck they did that for an episode one she throws a throwing knife at the bartender that only gets stopped by i think he got stopped by the jedi yeah he wasn't there she would just kill that man yep uh and then she was gonna chop the uh the young jedi guy in half until the inquisitors the grand inquisitor stopped her for some reason and then she cut off that woman's hand just because she said something that she didn't like and she was going to kill oan and torture and then torture well that yeah but that this is just an episode one she's probably doing this whole career basically that was kidnapping yeah getting like kidnapped that was her too so yeah she's she's done a lot of bad things in like one episode and she's probably been doing this for years but she didn't kill one kid so it's fine another thing if you tried to fix her up back up as a good guy i don't know how you address all of that how do you contextualize that in a way this like we can understand because i don't think you can understand what she's done because it's so irrational you can't even do the argument of like the show certainly doesn't even think about it but you can't even do the i was just following orders thing she went above and beyond her orders also as we've learned not illegal defense necessarily so um this is the thing i'm more than happy for characters to try and argue that and then they have to go on a journey of understanding how that was not right and that doesn't excuse fuck all but like you can't even do that with it you can't even use that makes sense white how can she it's got a long way to go she killed wade dead she blew him up well as long as it'd be fair we do forgive anakin return to the jedi i we've been over this he needs to be punished hardcore for what he's done and he dies and he does yeah he dies what you appreciate is he came through um and by the way it you understand exactly why he came through here you have no fucking clue what's going on i decided i don't want to be evil anymore when the script told me i wasn't allowed to be he also killed his master and the emperor of the empire that's that's free that's you know that's significant rever didn't do what she was going to do whereas like Darth Vader or i guess say anakin like killed the emperor he ended the like the set essentially like he destroyed the organization he helped build at the cost of his own life as well as his evil master that's that's a lot he did something rever chose not to do something she didn't need to do in the first place for reasons that are very confusing she didn't need to and didn't want to like i don't know why she would have wanted to do that i nobody does people are fucking people who are fans of the show argue over why she wanted to do this and that's that's the sign of how complex she is because it can be debated whether or not she like yes of course if there's no clear answer that means it's deep and multifaceted yeah my reference kind of ran all the time but that's any any and all criticism you direct at the show's writing stormtrooper bonk's head it's silly simultaneously being deep and intelligent while also dismissing all criticisms with this is a stupid ip an interesting way to defend something that you purportedly like but and i imagine we're gonna see that more and more for everything as time goes on like with marvel eventually they'll be like eventually they will use the stupid crap in multi-verse of madness to be like well you guys like this always stupid stuff in it should be like jesus yeah the mcs always been stupid it seems like um for whatever reason star wars' reputation is starting to get almost rehabilitated in a sense with people whereas like marvels are starting to crumble a bit like there's a lot more sentiment of these are just shit movies that like look really bad and have like pretty poor production values yeah stars the same style split the fan base and fell apart in like 2018 ish but then it's clawing its way back up through these very very shit tv shows that everyone is giving a pass um well while a lot of people are noticing like marvel i saw it it was on on twitter it's like full love and thunder is the best marvel movies since dr strange at the multi-verse of madness it's just every time a new movie comes out it purportedly the best one yeah and then a couple of months and everybody turns on it it's so predictable everybody turns on it remember how much praise there was for moon night now the consensus is that was actually like a wasted opportunity dr strange man that first episode we were so like oh man this might be something good so i just said uh no bogey bogey fat was hated so did you miss where we just went over IGN's review where they said the Book of Boba Fett finale was a 9 out of 10 the general public enjoyed Boba Fett I even remember them saying like oh no the guy did a spin before shooting how absurd didn't Obi-Wan do a spin in the OT when he was fighting Vader argument destroyed as if there's not like piles of fucking context for how cringe Book of Boba Fett was and this is where I mean it's the general sort of watches out there of tv shows they're just like book of Boba Fett I was fine I like me some Star Wars where they shoot guns and have the dark saber Mando episode Angry Joe gave the Mando episodes like 10 out of 10 didn't he he Mando season two I think what was it no the Mando episodes of Book of Boba Fett is what I'm talking about oh yeah I'm pretty sure he said like Mando like season two didn't he give like most yeah yeah but I'm talking about book of Boba Fett so when he said when he like I think he was on board with like yeah one two and three were pretty bad but four where we see Mando was it was that four was that five it was five five and six yeah I think he gave the the the solely Mando episode like a 10 out of 10 and then the Mando lit one fuck I'm even forget that see yeah my brain was happily forgetting Book of Boba Fett someone ruined it Rax posted a list of someone gave him oh where there it is yeah I just posted in here so you can have it point being Book of Boba Fett got past a lot of people smell tests just like Kenobi is Kenobi is getting praised pretty hardcore only things that turn people against Book of Boba Fett were like poor production values that like like yeah it wasn't really the writing it doesn't I don't know but don't worry the the communities you're probably more interested in watching be it like the East Vap spheres or the spheres around it they all thought it was shit but let's be honest I know that there's a lot of people who have chats here but like we're niche when it comes to the wide market yeah TV is the finale for this show is it like an 8.5 on IMDB yeah it's ridiculous it is but no what that's what makes it special three but in truth you can't help but let out a small sigh every time we cut back to Tatooine as we'd much rather stick with the much more exciting Vader and Kenobi encounter it's funny that he brought this up because we kind of did touch on it but just it is a bizarrely structured episode in that Vader and Kenobi their final battle before their final battle it's all been built up they've got all this stuff this baggage and it's like we're done with that now Riva you know like oh you probably should have done Riva before that honestly no one gives a fuck about Riva yeah she can't even have an impact on the plot line because we know how it all pans out like she can't she's literally restricted to doing nothing we all like if someone how do you answer that question it's like well will she kill Luke you are you are curious like why would you ask me that I know that I've got to figure out in my head how she would spare him and you'd usually figure out why that would happen based on their motivation to kill they brought her so close to killing him and then they're like oh yeah that's right she's swinging the sword the directs like wait wait wait wait you can't actually kill him this is film called a new hope I just saw it I just saw it I finished fight during production did you guys know that Skywalker was in that one shows up and pushes her over hey stop it it's possible now I mean thanks to TLJ we know they could do it yeah what was quite gone during all this shit he could have shocked Darth Vader's are we funny as fuck if he actually I wouldn't you know what quote this for the next 10 years force ghost lightsaber fight when are they gonna do it Disney would totally do that absolutely yeah she swipes at Luke and Qui-Gon draws his saber and he's like no and then they play Duel of Fates and they both fight and we would all cry it's probably how they'll try to tie in like Darth Revan from Night's Herald Republic be like oh we saw the episode of Darth Vader where Vader fights against force ghost Revan because those are two people we like and then the directors asked if they could do that why why wouldn't Obi-Wan why wouldn't anyone else and then they're like well um because it was it was only in the super special Sith temple gosh I wouldn't be surprised this is where I mean it's so predictable at this point in terms of the bad writing and be like well in that moment Qui-Gon felt such an emotional sort of experience and he's a very he's a very wise very trained force ghost only he is capable of doing something like that okay all right fine fine fine Qui-Gon Palpatine force ghost fight yeah let's do it have we ever even met wait are you the senator guy and he's like yeah haven't you been I'm Palpatine like what come on you've you've watched this you've been watching the whole films haven't you you're crazy oh I'm just a humble naboo senator this serves as a metaphor for the whole show really which has felt caught between telling an Obi-Wan story and one about the Inquisition both have been done to decent effect what have we learned about the Inquisition the Sith thing got their goofy and their shit I don't know less about them now than I did possibly you know less about them no I honestly did like I'm dead serious about that I feel I feel like I understood what the Inquisitors were supposed to be after watching Rebels and playing Jedi Fallen Order which are the two properties but I mean they they kind of contradict a lot of that stuff because they at least in Jedi Fallen Order they were saying that the Inquisitors were supposed to be younglings who were basically indoctrinated in like torture machines essentially to basically be tortured into becoming the Inquisitors and here it's like the younglings are there at the beginning so it was like okay so these are probably the Inquisitors from the show and then clearly they forgot about that by the time they're showing the flashback to Riva getting stabbed because she didn't turn into an Inquisitor that day I don't know I guess I don't get it anymore is what I'm saying I can't explain it because I don't know again to the director writer team you should be like wait how is she an Inquisitor she got stabbed in by a lightsaber and they just look at you confused like why would that kill someone well it's like okay then then Vader must have taken her and made her an Inquisitor it's like then why did she say she played dead yeah I have no idea what just planning to take you anyway I've told her so many times so I'm trying to picture it she crawls out of the body pile she she sneaks quote unquote away I don't know does she need to sneak away I don't know and she turns up to like Vader's office bleeding to death like hey I want to be an Inquisitor now and then he's just like okay I don't know how does it work what happened yeah like how did that actually happen was it kind of a it's kind of important was it that her rage as a child kept her alive and that impressed the Sith to the point where they're like you should work for us it's not like you'll harbor complete resentment towards us and then they have a little little talk outside of where she is outside of her eiffel and they're like you know she does hate us and she will try and kill us one day but maybe we can use her rage to find Obi-Wan because she doesn't like him either I guess you don't need to work out the story if you have a theme a revenge is a good reason to stay alive or whatever the hell yeah the Inquisitor said that sounds like three characters in the show do it and it's fine so hard to understand what the hell they were going for some people say like this this is obviously a movie script that's been stretched out and I'm just like I don't know what this was it was crazy the key to survival is being angry Leia not sad not sad because you'll fucking die from that I don't know that no one you know would have died from sadness of course but but seriously be angry I wonder if there are two great individual series tussling music is back no yes oh I love that's my favorite do that the way that kicks in it's like way what effect but you can't help but wonder if there are two great individual series like it's supposed to be this epic like you know the music is just starting but in a video it just that just means it just suddenly happens because someone's talking over it and it doesn't work it doesn't translate to a visual that it might be you know paired with it's just oh this is epic music fuck it just put it in the back and it slide that bar down so it's only like 20 volume or whatever or 50 percent or something like that no fucking together to create one often unfocused one although not seamlessly woven throughout this episode it does very little to take away from an otherwise thrilling spectacle stop talking hey you can't deny that it is a spectacle rags it's just not the kind that that he's saying it is it is a spectacle that is true we were all gawking at this thing in other shock what guac shocking and gawking it's kind of unreal how like you know him returning in full makeup is not something that it really gets talked about the emperor because it's just like there's so much other shit to talk about somehow in vader i love what you've done with the place i still sad by how funny it is the vader is like we will find him but then it's like dude you okay i love the black floor and the black chair and the black ceiling and and the black wall all the red highlights really bring the room together yes that i like the black um armchair there and the table which is introduced into that the guy who did my room if you want yes if you want just float the idea you know just love it it's excellent because when the emperor visits him where the emperor visits him here he's just like yeah we're gonna drink can you open this black fridge there's like loads of black bottles and a black company's like you know why do you are so are you so you know the color wheel is filled with many wonderful shades my apprentice just out of curiosity are those windows open is there glass there is that they just painted black is this is this a balcony that you're sitting on because it's not enclosed i need to go to the toilet it's not it's not just black is it in a black room please don't even watch i even i i wear all black this black room the exception it's swagger this black room you know what this this this room of yours needs a good coating of cgi because he was calling him to ask if they're still watching you know whatever tv show tonight and then vader was just like fucking obi one dude and he keeps randomly bringing it up when the emperor is going over more random topics and he's like this is clearly on your mind like i get that you're frustrated about this would you like to talk about it like what what is what is it the really about it i can introduce you to my therapist he's really he's really thoughtful and considerate he helps me through a lot i lost a lot of good people i i lost you know what actually no i hate it i like dot play guess that really weighed on me a bit i regret that he was kind of a cool maybe i could be nice to him while he was still alive of course i was still gonna kill him but you know perhaps i treated him unfairly perhaps i treated him too harsh you don't know what you've got till it's gone vader remember to just give some good life advice he's just randomly get live advice quotes i do like as well i just now introduce the sit comments just Darth Vader and the emperor he's like you upset that that you lost your little fight and he's like i didn't i didn't lose i he ran off so really you know i i think i won you know okay when we were training we just decided to one and this time i decided i won like i i by the way you know that thing he told you about wanting to win too much that's a lie by the way that's whole shit i wanted to win a lot and i did it's a really good motivator and you know what he dies later so i've seen it in the forest it's been foretold he gives enough pep talks to vader he comes back into the room and there's just a like a live laugh love yeah i think on the wall he would be way better if he had turned up as soon as he lost the fight just pats him on the back like no we'll get him next time like slash stab burn or something like that but it's in the cursive this is what i now want to see the show it works the daily lives of the emperor and Darth Vader just calls him so how are you doing empendoth the emperor like wants him to buy like a chair that can roll out into like a bed so that you can stay over sometimes when he buys it and it's just like white and vader's like really yeah really not my style man whatever it's a bed we put a black blanket over and he's like no it's even black like when all of these um very bright colored you know shelves and he just keeps walking towards the one like dark one in the whole story i thought we talked about this i thought we were gonna add some some color into that room beyond just black and red they go to couples therapy and the like they think it's a brand new therapist to try to out the person's like so the color black and it's like you told him really i think it's important that we talk about you said you wouldn't tell him i know i i said that but but but i lied i'm a sith i lied i'm a sith what do you expect hope he gets over i'm just saying i would rather watch this a lot more than the show that we got way funnier and you could probably keep it way more in character we could get some real insight into you know these characters what a shame we finally got a strong burst of the imperial theme and a repeat of that i i heard the noise and i clapped i clapped when i heard it and i was very happy 10 out of 10 finally what we're saying this is this is the kind of person that they jangle the keys for and it works it definitely works totally yeah i mean get some fucking nine out of ten as we saw in that little table one line we've been waiting for hello there oh my god oh the one line we've been waiting for remember me being that's so hard when it was about to happen we're like oh yeah we can meme too kids i feel like i can't ever say hello there again i mean it's like the fastest way to kill memes is when they self aware and the like did you not learn anything from it's morban time you leave morban time alone morban time did you not did you not like the what are those line in black panther did you know oh yeah that was great it's always so great i'm the juggernaut bitch and next to me bitch what a great movie i don't know who i am um over one kanobi elegantly ties a bow on the stories it began while enhancing the ones that are yet to come no truly and stop you're ruining it you're ruining so much you're peeing all over it yeah check out who are you come a truly and frauling showdown between vader and khan we all hoped it would be topping not only every fight from the series but maybe an all every fight from every fight from the series where this series being this show yeah then he says in all star wars though so oh god he does let's roll him back holy shit i'm not ready he's about to know is what we all hoped it would be topping not only every fight from the series but maybe an all of star wars yeah we're a little maybe in there in case people flame you too hard on the internet yeah maybe maybe he's non-committal isn't it it's like i didn't say it was i need this one's i need a yoda commentary on obu and doing this just be like what how did really and then and then everyone's like hey man you know if you there is no try right i yeah i nailed it i fucking dumb ass you are i know this i say that there's no real limits but i mean there are very stupid i can't just grab a planet obu one so i'm just saying this is uh all right incredibly retarded you are no episode obu one kanobi delivers on everything we hope the show would be no not we this is what you want it's sad thing buddy this is what you well yeah i mean he's made it clear that like what he was looking for was the imperial march to happen for him to say hello there at some point for him to do his stance cool lightsaber moves for him to use the force at some point but uh and then he said that they apparently enhanced all the relationship from the ot which is just like man you hurt me why must you i hate lay out i i didn't hate laia before this show an exciting niche oh so it just said what's yoda's reaction gonna be where he finds out everyone could have killed vader for the second time and failed the gads like oh dude he's telling the stories like oh he's so amazing exciting and i fucking thrashed him but then i had this moment where i was like oh no is anakin still in there and yoda's like like put his head on his hands like listening to the story really intently he's like what happened he's like yeah you know he said like no i killed anakin he's like oh my god what'd you do that and he's like well you know i said goodbye vader walked off or doth is this where you stabbed him or his head or you know the drop of rock on him because like i got flung like all the way to the ground you know like you were there the first time you were right there you had his lightsaber too it would be so absurd to yoda that he'd be like you you left and he's like yeah he's like you sure you didn't just lose and run away he's like no i left him and he's like i don't believe you i do not he's like you would have killed him so why are you lying to me and he's like no i i didn't want to he's like maybe he didn't want to like what what was i mean what i want him to pussy you are pussy chapter of star wars that doesn't betray what came before or after it i mean stop the utter us of you i'm surprised you didn't just have a huge praise section for this moment and what do you even say quig on jinn he's a character from the prequels he was the master for obi-wan he turns up and he says let's go let's go when obi-wan should be saying dude you could have just left well enough alone and let him do a stupid fucking pod race but no but no and look what happened train the boy train the boy you're doing funnies but like imagine that's a second act loop on the show with quig on being in the whole thing you should talk about that's what i'm saying like imagine at first quig on's trying to pull him out of his like crazy depression he stuff but then obi-wan just starts to think about it more and more and he's just like why did you pick this kid i told you not to i told you the boy is too old i even said it like i do and he could be like so fucking angry with him that it like he starts to fade out because it's just like that you know that part of the connection is like a he disappears into the bush like no no like i mean like legitimately it could create drama that if you're angry and unfocused you can't immune with force ghosts easily or something like that because fuck me it's just not fair it's not fair you haven't turned up and just say hello why'd you do this to me hello let's go only breathing new life into the stories and characters we've come to love does it though i mean he's he summed up he summed up why it was uh successful it's characters you've come to love that have nothing to do with disney i said eight i well uh i think the average was someone like eight point five so the cast got it pretty much god amazing and this by the way explains the title of this stream hmm amazing there you go check out our review of episode five all the latest to delve deeper into the show delve deeper we go a little further sometimes like oh see this is what they talk about what they say your review is longer than the thing therefore invalid these are the valid reviews yes six minutes you say nothing you've come away having learned nothing at all great you wish you could know what they mean by several statements but you never do i get through no i get those comments every once in a while on on my videos we're just like why couldn't you've just said you thought it was bad the fucking hours and hours i guess people just aren't interested in like the discussion i guess i just don't care they just want to clap at the visuals and that's that you know i mean i guess they don't care about the conversation about why people like stuff because they probably do like storytelling it's just you know interesting talking about it which is odd yeah they have some version of storytelling in their heads that's just bizarre and weird well no what i mean is that their passion for like having these discussions doesn't really exist they just like the the notion of having a conversation with more detail than i liked it or i didn't like it as odd to some people i don't get it no this image my friend's dad gets up and go go look at him he ain't had a kid and kill him damn it it's gonna re-speech his sounds while he's good meme good meme at the end of the at the end of the thing with riva too she's like i don't know what i'm gonna do now and then obi one's like you're free now we both are and that made me laugh at loud because i'm like how are you free you're still you're still you're still living in a cave waiting for her i swear to god if you leave this planet again we will hurt you you guys meanwhile riva yeah i mean everyone's made jokes about it riva will turn up again she'll be back oh yeah who knows what fucking series she'll be in if not her own probably good i'll probably have her travel forward in time and team up with esoka and the mandalorian to have an avengers movie against thron or some she'll probably travel forward in time no no i'm actually not kidding it's probably gonna happen that's a good that's probably you're probably right yeah esoka is only alive because they introduce time travel at the end of rebels so it's like it is gonna happen okay i'm like this is why i think rebels is not defended anywhere near as much as the clone was series the stuff like that thron and thron who's the like the main villain and what were the best star wars books like the timothy zhan trilogy from like the early 90s he's on rebels as well and him and ezra who's like the main jedi guy travel like through some wormhole or some shit and i'm i'm going to assume it's to the era where mando and boba fed and all those shows are taking place so they can have a big crossover event what if i told you i don't want i would agree with you what if i told you try imagining that it is what you want and maybe you'll like it that's a good idea all right prizes and infinite star wars is now there's a bit of a dilemma in the somehow a six minute video took us to two and a half hours well i never had before a lot of it like an hour or so that was us fucking around to be fair no it wasn't we did ign reviewing of their own review scores which helped us understand what they meant by amazing what was researched what were their games for amazing again uh reasonable two smash bros ultimate and batman arkham knight those are on on point with kenobi apparently getting mad also forza horizon four any any forza fans in chat who are upset to know that it's kenobi level forza or forza forza as far as i know it's forza yeah you pronounce it like i've only heard in forza it's italian word for strength because because pizza has two z's and forza has one z right is do you know but i guess i'm just trying to pronounce it like so apparently it is forza that like forza what hey the forza how rights and i mean i think it's perfectly reasonable for someone to say forza but then be like wait forza what forza um those goofy languages it almost sounds like content german i i thought forza horizon is cool um yeah i like the horizon games are fun for rights and i remember i remember it's good uh three set in australia i'm like yeah i'll play that one and i just never did wow i don't know three has a really cool hot wheels dlc and four with that and the brit britainia and then i think five was you know they have a lot of fun settings for the kind of crazy how like forza they've made so many forts like didn't grant charisma grant charisma seven like came out like 10 years after six right and people aren't happy with it are they yeah the microtransaction situation is not good seems like forts are at this point is kind of taken over in terms of being like more reliably out and enjoyable no i think we'll probably see this year because the new motor sports coming out and that more directly can be to grant her ismo or is horizons more like need for speed makes sense um remember go ahead no it doesn't matter that's yeah all good so the the dilemma is more so that this was never going to be able to be a long e-fap episode because of um i got loads of things coming up as well as i need all the time i can get to finish uh finno be mini six um as well as i i think it's fair to say for you to um so what i think the obviously the plan a was going to be that as long as we finish the time we could do another video what i'm suggesting now is that uh we probably should go to super chats now so we can get them done um yeah just hide it up sort of thing um we know it's still going to take us like two hours at least so you know we'll be around don't worry about it chat don't go nuts on me uh but uh you know i'm assuming you guys are gonna want to see that mini tomorrow rather than um extending it past then because it has been i was just because people are saying short man bad it's like the trade off is ideally you get your e-fap mini sooner which will be two hours i think right so it'll be long yeah there's a lot you've had you've been eating good lately if have chat you've had a whole bonus set of good old minis to tide you over but we're still gonna be here and we're still gonna what we're gonna do is see what you've been saying about and booby and other assorted things so i will say because it's like a nice little sort of break between sections um if anybody here and i mainly am directing this at cj mark and metal you'd like to wow exit plus i'm giving you the option you should be happy i'm not even giving it to bring in rags i'm saying no to them they're not allowed they literally have chains can you believe it hey i believe i believe it chains on a leash something i don't have chains i don't have chains when that jingle jingle jingle i don't mind hanging out i want more i know i shouldn't no no you you first you first i was gonna say i don't mind hanging out i don't mind you go ahead you go first you go ahead okay well rags thank you um you that i all right i i just need to feed feed my dogs because i'm a i'm a dog lover you know i like all dogs of of all of all types even shiba inus you know they're really cool it's weird how you're really singling them out that's like saying i love people of all colors i mean especially the black ones they're especially them i love them too yeah in addition to all the others yeah i guess i might step in that too talking about x-ray girl at some point i'd be like yeah i'm not racist at all guys i'm married to an asian woman you know that's what they all say yeah what about you jay uh i i think i'm gonna use the opportunity to take off because i do have a lot of work i have to tonight to try and get this video out well yes on the plane next week grand grand return of yes yep i've been working towards this for the past like month and a half and just kind of i want to get it done and uh yeah so the more i do tonight then i have to let you know you're gonna do any coverage for kanobi kanobi oh f*** that no i just i'm so i'm so apathetic about so many like hot culture things that get released because they're all so like it's not even they're not even entertainingly bad they're just kind of like meh i'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you on that element but i understand so don't bear enough yeah some of this stuff has been pretty funny like the trench coat pipe oh yeah oh no that was beautiful yeah but the problem is you're sitting through like six hours of meh for about five minutes of cringe real good for me it's not have you seen our have you seen our watches of these it is a ride the whole way through we do uh we do be doing a lot of laughing he said do be do i did indeed uh but yeah it's uh well it's used to put that on mountain duke bottles do be do be do but do the do i can't think of mountain do without thinking about um movie bulbs like mountain do marinate chicken i was thinking that's whizzier with the crab juice i need gordon ramsey's review of that thank you to uh can you just make a face he wouldn't even say anything this would have been better if it's fucking raw you're donkey just does he have like a cameo because like if he has a cameo page you could just i imagine to watch it i imagine this cameo edge would be incredibly expensive yeah crowd crowd source but worth it though and you know with cameo can you ask them to just give their genuine thoughts on a thing i no idea what do they have to just read a script and then that depends if they approve because that'll be interesting as fuck to get his opinion on like you know mountain do marinated chicken see what he said i guess it's not the purpose behind it but i suppose you're not risking anything because they could just be like yeah no and they just refund you so i might be worth a shot all i'm saying um i was gonna say i don't i don't i'm not exactly looking to repeat a goodbye but that is the nature of your uh your fun times with us today so i guess i'll say it again thank you so much for hanging out with us we've had lots of fun stars in a great position and i look forward to whatever it is you're cooking up what would a star was episode be without your you know friendly neighborhood ryan johnson impersonator yeah and he'll be back one day to do that trilogy you just wait all right thanks for having me on again take care lads absolutely bye bye see you ciao expert girl i actually just recently caught up on better call sol and i rewatch breaking bad to like i guess to kind of catch myself up on that so i got all the references and the episodes of that that ryan johnson directed are really really good it's just like man like it's really just the material that the person's given and the like structure that they're around because it's not bad yeah every time this guy lu anything goes do whatever you want write this script just needs somebody to filter him uh because there may be ideas he has in relation to the script that are good but he needs to know when they shit on something so he doesn't remember or doesn't know you gotta be like no ryan not that one he's like no fine i guess um be a mallet are you gonna are you gonna stay of course sorry i'll feed the puppies but i'll be back at that school very well all right let us begin all right this one says i grieve in staro the staro sounds strange that's i'm familiar to anybody i grieve in staro the staro sounds strange chan is there some meme we're unaware of here what does this mean grieve in staro the staro sounds right yeah i got nothing i have no clue people think stereo but it's spelled staro twice so i doubt it's a mistake it could be yeah maybe if they thought that's how staro i don't know oh i've seen little dark age be said more than once i don't know what that is google it that seems to be well i think that's a song but that's a grieve in stereo again and not staro so i don't know well all right fair enough oh hi mark damn he's not here but he will be once again say hello oh the guy who said it said i'm autistic i spelled it wrong that's all good don't worry about it um hey fringy are your fingers webbed or are you just happy to see me my aren't webbed or i guess oh right because we talked about how the actually oh sorry yeah because the webbing in our fingers is apparently from our frog ancestors okay did you know you know how you know how like in your hand there's kind of like the the connecting part between your fingers like when you open up the palm of your hand and you got like the little webbing there not like the one more talking about the frog part your ancestors were frogs okay you know you go back far enough no i don't know otherwise i wouldn't be confused ringy one of your great great great great to the power of like a million grandparent frog were they um were they actually like rog in terms of are they were classified sure we didn't share a common ancestor we actually came from them i'm pretty sure uh amphibians were the first uh land animals so all i think all land animals come from uh amphibians i'm pretty sure life crashed on it from a comet it's true fringy they they i think it was deer and giraffe that came out of the comet and then everything came rog comet how do you know if you will raise that comment hold on what because what was uh uh the first first land animal what was that because i remember i looked it up for a gag that i it's probably i think it was giraffes i think i don't think you're correct about that no i would have been my first guess mammoths they came from a swamp whatever right swamp mammoths yeah yeah swamp man sorry i didn't mean to say it used to be like big greenish amphibian like proto mammoths then they just got woolly air and they kept going and then the giraffes came from the swamp mammoths i think i think so yeah they got thinner and decided they want to get those trees up there so they got long necks and changed colors and got some hoof action going on super interesting it's all um there we go everything with his autism episode you better believe we're derailing this i want to figure out what the first land animal was genus world record says that it was some type of millipede but that's not what i remember i remember it was like uh it was like a fish frog thing that had little thin arms that helped it get on to land occasionally and then go back in what but what was it called i had like a really and i'm also seeing yeah it's look this guy here he's like kind of like a crocodile fish thing the land animal means the first animal that can get on to land or does it mean animal that is strictly living on land well i think the problem is that it gets blurry because a lot of the first land animals would have spent a hell of a lot of time in water um because that was the nature of it they'd come on to land for a little bit and then go into the water and then over the course of like millions of years um it was anthropods first crabs uh okay i'm just trying let me see anthropods would be like a furry thing well so i jumped the gun because someone said our ancestors were amphibious but they weren't amphibians like modern amphibians yeah i figured i guess when i said that they're a frog they're not like exactly the same as a frog right now but that they're a frog like you know damn i'm just not fine and what it was in any case so i remember reading that Wikipedia once about the web things clearly lied to i don't know if i was lied to i think um because i remember i read that hiccups or something was um was was some sort of uh the reason why a lot of animals still have hiccups is it was some inherited trait from the way that um earlier uh animals breathe uh like would breathe it was just something that got left over very well it's like i don't know if that's true or not it just but it's it sounds interesting i'm just sad it's not actually a frog no um kenobi is terrible but why is tfm i assume the fandom menace uh not you guys so bad at criticizing it neurotics complaints on twitter are horrid well to be fair he's i've been on a couple streams of them about this he's he's lined up with a lot of the things that we've been saying as well about the inconsistency and stuff i'm not sure i'm not sure which are the things he said on twitter i try to um avoid twitter especially lately you know it's not a fun place never was never will be but um yeah i've seen even seeing some of his videos he's um he's been tearing it to shreds and all the the consistent arguments i've been seeing which is neat uh thank you for watching these shows so we don't have to you bet no problem you want to say something for me i yeah because someone said fringy's bad at biology i didn't study it at school i did physics and i remember nothing about it i was bad at chemistry though biology oh yeah well i didn't even study it exactly i can't be bad enough i didn't even learn anything about it i can't be bad i was bad at biology i'd be like yeah i would never if they said you're bad at biology i'm like what do you mean i'm bad at biology biology because i am biological and i exist just for decades i've been going along just fine and things are looking pretty good i think i'm pretty good at biology you just do you just were tately like collapsed to the ground because your body just stops working i wish my body was better at biology should i save my stranger things season four superchats for the stranger things e-fap or can i ask them now yes well uh so first of all yeah we could to be fair there's yeah there's people here we're gonna want to see it but i don't know if there's gonna be an e-fap for it because it's like i'd be on board with that springy might be when uh he sees more of it metal and rags for example i i i have no idea if i know nothing about strangers i have never seen an episode never seen an episode that's to be discussed as a potential but to be honest with you okay the moonlight fans are gonna get real upset yeah we're gonna talk about strange i feel really awful this is my there is so there's so much to talk about moon night i don't know there's somebody post about how's like why do they do it there's someone this is like same people ever also while we're like fans i was really looking forward to them talking about that and this is like i'm sorry i'm sorry it just we we just don't care anymore it is it oh that window it's just it's pretty much closed because now i would need to possibly watch it two more times to get everything i need to really get proper breakdown well first of all i don't know how the time to do it secondly if i like do i really have the passion to do that it's a tough one and then thirdly it's like you guys should probably watch it again at that point because it's been so long right like the references might be a lot thinner and i don't know if i i don't know if i want to make you guys do that as opposed to you know watching i would rather make you guys watch stranger things season four and talk about it that would be more entertaining i think um i'd rather watch stranger things season four best i've seen so far so it's like it's unfortunate but this sort of thing happens um there's a lot of things that we were gonna cover at some point but they never did because that's just just the nature of being human you know um uh when you take your word for it all the same layer as the sketch riparoo don't worry did you uh hi rags hello and uh weird and i got my jay plushy on thursday and everybody at work thinks he's adorable i also have my jay plushy well i'm still on the way where is it well i'm it gives it an order of like morally superior people i think so you'll get your god damn it i'm getting mine like 2024 finally i made a live efab level your content and hard work guys random question do any of you play tt rpgs my friends and i have made one called planes of oradan or oradan oradan uh long live the long man high rags and kick jay hello um i'm not currently any games but i enjoy playing them want to get the chance tt rpgs what does that stand for table table top role playing games ah no i don't like indy pathfinder starfinder call it catholyn been a long time since i've played one i've barely i used to i played two back in the day that didn't get a great impression from but they were fun they just didn't go well um an end i don't think i've ever played one to completion and it it's never been my fault i have been a good player okay don't believe the propaganda from the newspapers um but yeah you know they they seem fun as for um the the nice things you said about our work though that's that's trying to be thanks i'm glad you enjoy yeah dark side users literally being too angry to die is a potentially cool idea that immediately gets ruined by taking it too far with dothmore um i agree seems to me that the death george lucas gave him was pretty permanent you would think that being bisected and falling into a bottomless pit would uh yeah let's seal the deal but well i guess not not quite um but yeah no i i think i even said like i think it has potential as an idea but not when it goes that far um atm machine svd draganov fps per second do people really say that when i first heard that here i lulled out loud shake my head some people said block story basically when they say an abbreviation but they ended with the word from the yeah people do svd draganov a lot yeah atm machine has come up a couple times i've had atm machine yeah that happens a lot the fps per second i don't hear very often but i can believe it i don't i've never heard fps per second i don't think i've heard that once dc comics dc comics dc comics comics comics dc comics seems like one of the most common ones that are almost just accepted well now it's just dc nobody calls it they they they wisened up uh hot take kenobi is in fact not amazing whoa whoa get out of here looks like um it's like the los angeles angels the the angels angels oh yeah god yeah that took me a while i thought you were talking about kenobi that's why i was like what yeah kenobi loves los angeles angel uh rags moeller how you deal dealt in the past with co-workers making fun of you i'm introvert guy who likes to be alone most of the time i noticed that caused my co-workers to dislike me just um i've never uh how do i first off what do you mean hey rags how do you deal with your co-workers disliking thanks mate um but no i actually i got along with pretty much pretty much everyone always i was uh i never really made any enemies or had people who just didn't like being around me or didn't like my face or anything like that so i thought i liked my co-workers it was my manager the one of those four managers one of them was fucking satan um and i hated him but the one worker and i talked about it before that i didn't like but still got along with just fine was one that like had just been hired and he refused to do anything other than buy the book every single thing he was told to do and if every saw another worker not doing things by the book he would like uh threaten to report them i remember being one of the most frustrating pieces of shit that i've ever worked with that's fun but it's the kind of thing where he would do it and you'd be like yeah no problem i'll definitely do that from now on thank you so much and he'd be like yeah okay good you know like he wouldn't even pick up that you're incredibly frustrated but yeah how to deal with co-workers that are making fun of you i just i don't really think i've been in that situation enough to give proper advice but you know try and you don't want to show them that um it's really getting to you that'll probably be step yeah don't do that that's that's no good don't do that also it depends on what they're making you fun of making fun of you for is probably gonna be a big part of it because if they're making fun of you for something that's pointless or is actually a good thing that you have and they're making fun of it then you should ignore it it's almost like its own vindication um because you could be made of things maybe maybe you have some sort of personality flaw or there's something wrong with you that they are making fun of that you should work to change but they could also be making fun of you for something that shouldn't be made fun of and might actually be a good quality you possess in which case i'd say don't do anything fuck them not everyone is compatible with everybody else and if they don't get that then i don't know what to say and yeah just i don't you know if they don't like you partially because you're introverted it's like oh that's not very nice should be able to respect the fact that you're just not as talkative as others or whatever bit yeah it's just kind of hard to say to give you advice and hopefully um not too much of a problem for you um whatever happened to the pizza man cynic snacks uh he hasn't uploaded in a while i haven't spoken to him recently i hope he's all right all right obviously um could be that he's um found other interests at pursue but i really don't know do you not know hope he's all right oh my god hello hello hello um someone had said hi mark make sure oh hello uh please go to xclips uh youtube channel and just read some of the video titles that plus some of the comments is just beyond depressing xclips felt he say he see a s i think that's eckhouse ladder right oh yeah he's a super star wars consumer sim holy fuck the first one this scene proves revenge of the sith's genius all right this is why obi one finally gave up on anakin konobi just fixed my biggest problem we've never seen konobi this powerful we really need to talk about this i can't believe how dumb this was maybe talk about the trench coat thing they don't know um well that's great i hope he's enjoying he was the one who did the the naboo star fighter is the perfect ship for mando oh yeah oh he's not a bright lad it really wasn't but that's okay our total star wars who would win in the 20 kilometer emu race rags or fringy uh rags probably wait emu race i'm confused what is that what part is that mean does that mean both of you writing on an emu or training an emu or running a lot the running of the emus it's one of australia's greatest festivals rags would have the edge if he was riding because he he's he's a little doggo so he wouldn't weigh as much like doctor so but but then again emus are quite strong so i wonder if perhaps you could concoct some kind of potion to make your emu supercharged maybe they'll be well we just juiced up i don't know if that's in the spirit of yeah i don't know i think so juice up your emu before the race right before the race starts you're just you just got this potion bottle and you're making like this it like grows to the godzilla size of these bulky muscles and rags like this seems unfair and you're like no same nope there's a rule that says you can't turn your emu into a gigantic godzilla monster there are no rules i ain't no rule it says a dog can't play basketball true what if the storm trooper on top of the gate didn't shoot and instead beg kenobi to release the innocent hostage because he cared about frack oh that would be interesting wouldn't it that would be interesting uh kobi kobi i was sorry i was thinking about basketball kenobi realizes that he's um like i'm turning into an evil asshole yeah like oh god what have i become imagine that he does that the storm trooper legit goes no no no please please please start i i'll put down please he didn't do anything please do it to us but let him go and it's just confusing because you're so pure hearted and well the audience would be fucking like wait what what's happening and then kenobi just shoots the trooper we're like oh okay oh no that was weird the carry on as if nothing happened that was kind of weird what was his name again frack yeah yeah he's like no wait he had a family one of them even said like hey frack yeah but he shoots the storm trooper that he kicks the back of the leg of frack to get him on his knees and then just executes him in front of leia he's like he was he was loyal to the empire takes out a knife and just slits his leg or something like that if we were operating in a world where obi-wan pretending that he doesn't know leia or have any connection to her was an important bit of intelligence to keep from the empire that might have been what he'd have to do we yeah we did talk about how um it would have i think uh there's that those are just like errant idea for a story where obi-wan could make a friend that's a missionary of some kind and help him with the the local war of yeah kathleen and stuff but then at the end of the story you have to kill him because he finds out he's a jedi that would be a really powerful payoff but no we did we did whatever the hell that was yeah uh there are rumors that 343 is thinking of adding microtransactions to the mcc i guess infinite failed so hard then you just screw up other games to make up that's the only thing that's all you can bring into it isn't it like man you just that was really was a mistake wasn't it i was really liking halo infinite at first too everybody was like a little bit yeah everybody came away with a much better impression of that game at first then just after time it's like damn this is efficient well it kind of ties back to what we were talking about with the ign reviews it it's sort of almost futile to do a day one review of a multiplayer game because yeah you're not going to know what the community is like what the med is like how the balance is changing exactly that doesn't materialize until the game is out for a while sorry halo fans yeah sorry about that tv show that came out too oh god don't remind me i avoided that like the plague i think there was a roadmap for halo infinite that was like we're getting campaign dlc in like 2024 and forge mode which looks admittedly really really good isn't going to be out until like 2023 or something i don't surprise me well by the time all the pieces of that game are out we'd be like when's the new halo game yeah well that's it it's all out it's pretty funny how both halo infinite battlefield 2042 leaned hardcore into being live service games and they're both in a state of like totally fucked no hello long man what happened no we didn't know what happened no that's it so finally saw a blind man or wow i see why you will love it so much and found midnight mass as a bit of a disappointment so kenobi is over and i hated it well that lines up with us pretty much all of that yep man the first five episodes of midnight mass here is so close to perfect though that it's kind of it's hard to call it a bad show because it's like well the first five episodes are like the best tv you'll ever see six episodes okay and the second episode sucks like and kind of ruins what came before it said i am yeah uh it it didn't waver at all for my fascination with mike finigan's work he'll be like give me more but yeah yeah i think he has a new one coming out again yeah i think october he's got a new one coming out yeah how's the house of usher yeah i'm looking forward to it there's also um midnight something else i remember someone talking about how there's a show about i think he may be producing i'm not sure i have to look into it but yeah i decided for more of his work um and kenobi is indeed over and how fucking quick was that it was uh like three weeks maybe four i can't remember now what is the timeline for kenobi it was uh i think it was four weeks four weeks there's two episodes the first week so five yeah that's i guess five five weeks and episodes came out like four weeks i guess if you like in the interim like in the main time yeah because three episodes came out in five days really strange delivery oh yeah because it really came front and then and then it was wednesday yeah i don't know why they did it um you know it gives you show more ability to stay relevant and give more life to everything i think did we speculate like they wanted to release it so that vader was at least teased by the time with the first content i think so and i think that makes a lot in terms of money making if vader's plan was to have riva get him kenobi wouldn't his whole plan have failed if she hadn't planned for kenobi to escape with the track instead of just capturing him it doesn't none of it makes any sense it's all really weird you're not gonna get the defense from us dude her betraying him loses him kenobi on the second time around too he would have had kenobi had she actually been evil instead of if if he had replaced her with stupid hat man um they might have gone kenobi also considering how it end how is kenobi's plan not hey riva you're staying with me on tatooine i'm gonna train you and together when he's ready we're gonna train luke together if you if you want to play with you anywhere near him he's letting her make her own decisions mark well i mean you got to think like you're fighting a war though and you know you can do whatever she wants nothing to answer for and she uh in the eyes of a lot of star wars fans i bet she's definitely redeemed fully thoroughly and see this is the problem with them deciding that most of the jedi apparently survived order 66 because there's apparently a ton of there's enough that they need a whole underground railroad dude they're just gonna keep inventing loads more that survived that's all there'll be a whole other tier of like jedi temple underneath the ground that was filled with jedi that all escaped eventually they accidentally invent so many survivor jedi that it is a number that's greater than the amount of jedi that were around in the first place the only ones who died are the ones who got death scenes in revenge of the sith and even then with disney even though that's true also imagine the empire propaganda that comes from a surveillance video from the post showing a jedi taking an innocent person hostage if and they should have well they the droid would have been destroyed before he did it but if there's a camera in that area it would be great for creating and that would be another interesting story to be able to tell to show how they spin stuff like that well you'll have the you'll have uh freck will be like yeah he yeah he took me hostage and he killed all the killed everybody and it was like wow what a dick and freck would just be like everything they said it's it's true uh true the emperor was right they're awful horrible people and he kidnapped that the the daughter of that senator like jeez when will the madness end what did you do to infract he's like i gave him a ride yeah yeah i didn't recognize i mean just people posing on the side of the road no one would say anything bad about that i'm just such a nice guy and all did he went berserk taking advantage of our kindness oh duma media said efap six out of ten too long racism no wow don't be so mean to long folk they uh hey duma have trouble i don't know if he's still here that was that was a while ago uh hello efap i'm about to start coding my own game but i'm having a hard time picking a setting was wondering if you could help me pick options will be in the next super chat okay so medieval fantasy because i feel Bethesda needs to be smacked off their pedestal cyberpunk simply because cyberpunk 2077 pissed me off space fairing because mass fact three was a letdown a manhunt style game simply because rock star is a bunch of cowards that won't make one and lastly a vigilante game there are plenty of superhero games but none non-powered hero games and then there's another question but we'll start there so you asking a preference on those i guess maybe asking as an indie game developer what's the best one to take on or what's needed the most or is it a hypothetical i think i guess uh i guess it's an interesting question because figure that it sounds like you would want to do all of those the fact that you've listed them like that any one of those would be interesting to you well what what kind of game were you trying to make because it's an rpg right an rpg um if you want to make an rpg uh i mean i suppose an rpg detective store is that what detective was that one of the uh well one of them was fantasy right so just pretty high standard medieval high fantasy that was one of them probably he specified rpg anyway all right didn't he okay i'm i must because you can have sorry go ahead regs um depending on what kind of setting you're in you'd yeah it would be really good if we knew what kind of a game you wanted to make whether it was a platformer side scroller whether it was rpg a turn bait huh and shoot it's like a cold oh a shooter all right a shooter okay yeah i totally like call it duty then you could do whatever you wanted really i think fantasy might be difficult to make a shooter in uh um yeah that'd be that'd be harder especially did you just say you started coding like you've just started so we said well i'm about to start coding the game i don't know if you start all right okay right so yeah i figured you'd have yeah um i was kind of thinking though from a complexity standpoint you're the cyberpunk and the the manhunt one or i guess the vigilante game would be the most complicated visually to actually like model and design and have performing well because you're gonna have to make cities essentially with people assuming well i i assume he's not making some big triple a thing that he's a small developer yeah i guess i guess if it's like a crpg then it doesn't really matter what the setting is i think in a shooter is almost like a side scroller like a metal slug kind of contra thing some because you have something that's actually able to be sort of sort of done by what i assume be a small studio either one person or you know just a few uh in which case i mean science fiction you know the sci-fi and the you know that that gives you a lot is the cyberpunk that gives you a lot of options you can have your own aesthetic style to things you don't have to go fancy it could be um like a 16-bit sort of style game where you you know go for it like a like a platformer where you shoot guns and maybe upgrade your gun and it would give you an excuse to have some powers that you might be able to use to just give some variety because if you're if it's a shooter that you're looking for yeah i just don't really see how a i pervert fantasy is my preference generally but i don't know i don't know how you'd really make a shooter out of that well i'm vermin tide is kind of a fantasy first person shooter in a way i mean there's a lot of male i was actually gonna say that um you may not be limited by uh tech if you know you don't adhere to reality uh thing of van helsings awesome gun right yeah you can have it when you're you're ought to hear crossbows or like legal legends does okay legal legends has that kind of like we could pretty much throw any character into this and we'll make it make magic because you could throw in fireballs and yeah if you want to do that sort of thing yeah you i guess you do you have a lot of options fireball all of these can work uh yeah and so then it's just like if you're asking just what i would prefer is like i kind of like the idea of a vigilante game as in you have to deal with the law and what your personal brand of ethics are when solving crime back to the coast yeah and because he described it as there are plenty of superhero games but no non-powered hero games it's like oh so you'd probably be dealing with tech then i assume um yeah you know i'd be i'd be interested in that one probably if i was presented all of these and i knew nothing else about any of them i'd probably give that one a shot first it's kind of arbitrary like i because i any of them could be the good ones and the bad ones but uh just that alone makes me be like hmm it's almost a batman it's like i assume it's not gonna quite because batman often gets considered to be a superhero with how amazing his tech is i assume he's going for a more even lower down than like yeah like like the guy i could i could i'm just picturing for some reason like a noir level uh thing where it's the guy yeah maybe with a gun don't know yeah like a death death wish the game but like you actually have some choices to how lethal you can get and that actually changes your outcome and how society views you and stuff yeah there's some potential sure oh yeah rorschach would be kind of what i'm thinking of rather than batman yeah i love a rorschach um yeah hopefully that's helpful because the the second then question was last thing i would like to ask is do you have any tips for writing a non-time sensitive story like a lot of games mainly open world tend to do this thank you all like you don't have a main yeah well because finish your super chat sorry thank you all for the great content also high mark oh hi um scope limiting would be the the thing that i would say just try try not to have the the threat be world ending because those tend to be time sensitive whereas if it's just this person needs that your hero needs to take out the villain like track him down and kill him eventually and that's the goal it's not like kill him before the villain does a thing there's plenty of video games that have goals that don't have anything to do with a story if they even have a story really uh everything from heroes of hammer watch to rim world to you know whatever it is these are games where you try to make your character stronger unlock new abilities manage events as they pop up a lot of sieve builders and city builders are like this you know colony management sims there's not like it wants to make a video again with characters though by the sounds of it so i guess he's trying to figure out what kind of plot would he need to write so that you don't have the kind of ludonarrative like apparently this is really important that i do this but like i want to do maybe the angles to almost make it serialize sort of where you don't have an over you don't have an overarching kind of story like you there's no looming threat in the distance there's no big goal that the whole that the player is working towards maybe it's a lot of this will help maybe this will help you actually make it but a lot of smaller things that pop up um like this little event happens how do your characters deal with it all right that's done awesome now this little thing has happened how do you deal with it okay awesome and maybe there'll be some ramifications of those things and that could be sort of your progression is you know your your collective list of accomplishments for these events but uh maybe that's the way to go i think it would be the more that you can break up each uh section into its own isolated um story beats maybe make like that you have chapters that are dedicated to i guess solving specific mysteries in a very free form way um that way you can always have everything that the character was doing in like this setting be somewhat related to that poor mission without having to worry about a big overarching plot but that's that's just the thought hopefully that helps yeah yeah um day long going to just make me aware of this i don't know if she was listening to the e-fab and that's why she's aware of why this is relevant but i believe we just we talked about this uh rags would you like to read this oh boy i'd love to all right when when uh when vader essentially he says i am not your failure obi-wan the light on his face is blue it's like anakin is accepting obi-wan's apology and telling him that it's not his fault and then it becomes red again when vader returns really in creative choice there so easy it is so easy you just make it up this is the media analysis equivalent of that girl smiled at me she's my girlfriend now yep the when we all saw it because i don't even think we commented on it at the middle east we all do like that's just gonna be what people say because that's just it's super intelligent this this is super creative good jobs like it was really obvious but okay fine fine fine fine hope it just hopefully distracted from the writing i guess i did um why do star wars fans hate everything maybe if they didn't try so hard to get me invested and then stop pissing on everything i enjoyed i wouldn't have to hate it but hey i ain't no scholar meh yeah that was that was the other video we were gonna cover but we may cover in future who knows um but uh yeah it is kind of amusing because i still try to get super i don't know metapilled on this to be like is it just whatever is currently releasing people will say are the worst fans probably like my marvel fans they just that they because like the meme with stars is like just nobody hates star wars like star wars fans which i always found funny because it's like that makes the most sense i don't know why that's a shock to you yeah yeah because it's they're the ones who care about star wars so when you're making it shitty they're the ones who get pissed off about that the people who don't care about star wars don't care exactly it's like oh man i was really expecting fucking like that group of people who knit regularly to hate stars the most but yeah there we are it's the people who watch star wars that did don't get it uh you know what they say can't spell ignorance without ign yeah that's the part been hearing a lot about roe v wade on twitter don't know who this roe fellow is but i'm glad people are showing our boy wade the love and attention he deserves hashtag wade brigade also high rags yeah it'll be the showdown of the century taper view fight roe v wade the rematch of the century can't wait to see how it turns out yeah yeah because i haven't looked into any of it of course but i was very happy as well because wade is one of the best characters i think disney have come up with um it really is when riva killed wade i was uh what a tragedy too because she's kind of like anakin and anakin accidentally killed a bunch of people that isn't insane it's so it's so creative you know there was a red light near her when she did the evil thing too it was a lightsaber so that's how you know it's evil that's this i would call that really good art that's just really good art she is i mean the good news is the actor of the wade series there sorry the actor who played wade in the wade series make it happen make it happen do it you already know more than we did and that's great that's great thing that's gonna say it's coming back on the riva series and it's gonna be a force ghost you'll inspire her you'll be like he'll forgive her for actions if you're like you did what you did in favor of an honorable goal that was to get revenge on people who did you wrong um woohoo been a while since i've been able to catch the greatest massive of all time live again oh and hi rags hello your advice about first date of the zoo is the greatest success in history oh well it i mean well i mean it is good advice but i don't know about that much but uh yeah take a bitch to the zoo mm-hmm it is a good call he just loves these um hey guys i know you're pretty upset about wade but he just slapped the fuck out of row time to celebrate lol now on to the wings quote of the day i'm i'm just glad people appreciate wade that's all that's all i say any yeah the more wade loved the better as far as i'm concerned big fan away mo wade mo better so this okay i got confused i didn't know if it was about star wars or about wings of redemption because of the quote because i say george but i think it's about wings of redemption so you got sigh george you got a fucking anime pickers your profile i don't give a fuck about what you got to say that motherfucker can go back to his blockchain or whatever the fuck he's probably got a fedora on being like while you were partying i was studying the blade oh it's good quote i like it i have more letters hi rags hello more letters watching bligh right now i really like it but i think hillhouse has better written characters i am oh can't wait to see how it wraps up though so um i think there would be a conversation to be had if not for how they handle the mum yeah i think that really brings down hillhouse and i think that they were trapped toward the end because they changed a bit and they didn't manage to find a way to make it uh quite as much sensical as possible if you want to know what i mean by that there is a whole breakdown of us going through the entire show oh my god waiting about it remember that remember that thing that happened that video took fucking ages to make but i'm very happy with and uh and we are like the meanest on the internet when it comes to the finale for hillhouse even though we celebrate hillhouse being fantastic yep great show that finale yeah hillhouse is extremely good definitely worth a watch absolutely finale is pretty rough though did you guys ever see flanagan's um eegee prequel what prequel prequel uh weegee like weegee boards oh so there was like a wait wait wait wait wait wait stop spirit board yeah the spirit board but the the movie that they made was called weegee it was like a platinum dunes like michael bayes oh movie and it was the original ones really shitty but michael flanagan did a prequel to it that's actually amazing and i could imagine that i how did you i i'd be interested in seeing that i was gonna say i probably will there's a couple of films remember i still haven't checked out i've seen a harsh i wasn't too impressed with that but that's okay the mirror the mirror from oculus appears somewhere in every one of his things too neat we saw the movie he did about the the bed lady what um oh yeah gerald's game and the mirror was the mirror was the bed frame and gerald's game lots to like in gerald's game lots to dislike yeah and all these stuff in there as well um but yeah i mean it's really cool i i i didn't think he would be the one to handle it but adapting leweegee into a film sure like a leweegee i'd like to see his wall leweegee move in i'd be yeah do it chris pratt his voice the cinematic the pratt verse the pratt verse uh as a lifelong kingdom hearts fan playing since 2003 kingdom hearts three is a three to four out of ten oh i think that's probably like contentious isn't it well we'll see chat how do you feel about that is that person totally fucking wrong is that a bad take or is that based let's find out yeah is that based or bad that could be our new mini series based or bad based on bad you go with based or bait because uh as jay put out a tweet about it not too long ago it's whenever this one has a bad take these days people just like that's bait instead of just their bad opinion uh gotta say guys i got my jay plush and that little rhino is like real cute oh and jay is pretty neat too also i guess perfectly kickable i rags hello i miss jay's plush i have most of the other plushes though makeshift kind of screwed me on my rags i ordered uh two rags and two mallers for x-ray girl and i and only one rags showed up i emailed them and they're like yeah we're not making them any more but here's your money back i'm like oh well hopefully there's a second round someday hey x-ray girl's getting maybe even soon it would be a who knows when it'll happen who knows fnt's soon they're soon so there will be a plush of my wife out there for everybody if there you go if you're in the market for um also it's all more based than cringe so okay there you go i hear kingdom hearts has like a cool combat system i guess i guess final fantasy final fantasy 15 i heard was kind of a riff on what they were doing in kingdom hearts but i've never played the kingdom hearts game so i can't speak too specifically i only ever hear bad things about uh kingdom uh not final fantasy 15 it 15 is a bit of a weird one the combat in it's pretty good it's got a weird structure and the story just sprints to the finish line and kind of doesn't make sense towards the end but uh there there's some things to like about it like i think it's worth playing for the most part that game was in development from like 2006 i think it's probably like a cyberpunk situation though where it's like yeah they were kicking around the idea for like seven years but they were probably only actually developing it for like i'm guessing the ps3 oh four generation because yeah they were originally it was originally a ps3 game called final fantasy 13 verses and then they moved it to ps4 and it was out in 2016 so three years i guess uh the fans hate for star wars is really born out of our love we love it but simply hate what it's become a cold robot monster not unlike vader uh yeah but they would rather just say you do it for the clicks even the people who like don't even have channels like you do it for the you don't even know what art is do you even know what blue and red mean is colors i don't think so devil's third is a we you game never hold of it uh the numbers mason what do they mean everyone remembers that an old timer except for mason he can't remember wow no he remembers the numbers he can't remember where the station is i suppose i like black ops this is a cool game did not like i loved it i loved that i'm wild war they're my best memories for cod you don't like black ops i oh no i don't like black ops three and four oh i don't like four eight one one one i think is good is great two i think the campaign of that one is kind of cool but it's also like bat shit insane and um cold war is actually all right like raven's the one who made that they're the guys who made like quake four and singularity it's like four hours long because it's a call of duty campaign but it's all right no i like i like black ops two that might be like one of my more controversial i like that game a lot it legitimately had more endings than mass effect three in terms of like branching decisions black ops two yeah it did have a lot going on the um my call of duty hot takes definitely that i like the campaign for infinite warfare because that's the one that everyone seems to hate yeah i don't i don't think it's a i hear literally about infinite warfare is camp scene here's the thing it's not a good military shooter at all because it's it's not a military shooter it's a battle star galactica game like i just instantly heard good things about halo or sorry uh call of duty infinite's campaign infinite warfare if you can get it on like a humble bundle or something for cheap i'd recommend playing through the campaign or like i mean it's called duty you could probably get through half of it and then still return it on steam well hot take world at war is the best card of all time that's not a hot take at this stage i think that's a i mean there's probably a little bit of spice in there it's not like super hot but it's not it's not well yeah because when we talk about the most cold take it's called duty four yeah but i would say that when we talk about especially nowadays i think world war's reputation is pretty glowing yeah well because it's it's got a real a lot of scenarios that are unique to that game because they haven't really done pacific fronts and any of the others the only thing i didn't like about world of wars i found that it was a lot of monster closet encounters where it was less about actually defeating the enemy and more about progressing far enough that they stop spawning infinitely and it's like i'll call duties and they're not all like that but but world of war is the one where i found it very noticeable absolutely most of the trenches that you have to go through with the the guys on a flamethrower and stuff there is there is no card that compares to the grenade spam of world of war yeah that's uh yeah it was incredibly that was the challenge i think i think i've talked about before it might mean my friends would like compete to see who we can get the most grenade tags on screen at once in the campaign i think i i think i had eight i can't remember what the highest i ever got was but it was fucking insane i wouldn't mind doing that again as a challenging stream thing as long as everyone's willing to watch me die like a thousand times because the way it would often work in card is like you can't just win out by hiding forever until like all of your ai allies beat the rest you need to progress so it changes the enemy spawns right yeah and so because they'll keep respawning until you pass a threshold and it's like you have to it's like a puzzle game you have to find where the way that you can move forward is without dying with the limited health you have basically you're just trying to give yourself suppressing fire by killing people yeah it's like when you if you kill enough of them within 10 seconds then you have about a 10 second grace period before they respawn you gotta run it's you know it's really like adrenaline rush sort of gameplay but most of the time you're just gonna be fucking angry yeah going slowly and methodically taking out enemies and stuff just checkpoint was an hour back and you're like no no i remember trying to play it on veteran after i got on a kicker going through the halo games on legendary and those it's not an equivalent experience so like halos encounters are very limited and you can you can play you can strategize and you can see your progress as the enemies die whereas in veteran world of war good luck uh momo 53 was hilariously broken but it's still my favorite card memory oh favorite card memory because i exploited the crap out of it specialist package was broken to hell and back specialist package was absolutely broken what was that um specialist was the so there was three there was the standard killstreaks i think it was yeah it was assault support and specialist assault was the regular killstreaks as you want 30 stuff like that support was uh easier to obtain but there were more yeah there was support like uiv and stuff uh specialist was that you could basically get perks that would give you you would unlock perks as killstreaks to stack on top of your arm oh yeah i might mix them up i'm pretty sure that's what specialist was yeah specialist was like you could get perks you would stack on top of your arm on top of what you already have so like it just makes it you're giving yourself permanent buffs um it's wait they don't reset when you die it's for the whole game the whole realm well well permanent in terms of like it's ongoing right your kill streak will end um like your if you use a uiv at end if you use a attack chopper it ends but like this just lasts until you die and respawn so it just makes you better like it makes you harder to kill um and so like that makes what you're describing is almost a trade off though right because like the ac 130 will last longer if you die straight away but the perks will only last as long as you live that's true but but it would be that um because the perks keep stacking you can reach the point where you are you become insanely powerful to where it's very hard for people to kill you and that just means you can keep going and going hmm well fair enough uh kingdom hearts three was so bad that there are multiple several long hour videos going into full detail on how bad it is the longest being over six hours go damn well yeah i think i've seen one of them before but i just i know nothing about kingdom hearts so i've never retained information about it i have like one and two but i remember nothing about them it's been so long from what i gathered tessio namura basically couldn't decide if he wanted to put his ocs into final fantasy or disney so he did vote oh it's you could just lie for four and a half minutes and no one would even know cough donkey cough oh i only know that's true about is it octopath traveller was the one that he did that on that controversy kind of but he got away with it mostly because he's funny funny funny funny right it'll be fine if you're funny very funny hilarious eat a darker i mean parker oh and they got a little smirk face uncle ben had his chance sacks night is by the way you know we do it you know lord long gone take a shit all over uncle ben of mulepschlington abbey is there any good chance for a kong fap of peter jackson's long kong when there's less going on there'd be a movie fap for the ages yes oh well wagsies screeches for the good boy oh hello um yeah i think so there's gonna be time in the future in which we will watch a kong of long imagine when there's less going on yeah maybe probably when there's less going on i imagine but yeah at some point sounds exciting we'll get right on it at some point disney will make s tier content for the next decade but you'll have to run like lego jar jar for a year do you do it yeah fine whatever yeah sure i'll you know what i'll bite that bullet for a year i'll let everyone know that that was the deal run anyway right i don't run that often these days yeah it's like jumping when's the last time you jumped it's private months since you got actually jumped it's probably fucking months since you've jumped i just like rags go to the market probably been longer i was gonna say for me it's legit been five years i don't have a lot of vertical takeoff on my prosthetic legs so oh but then again like oh i was saying it because you're white oh no okay i thought it was because i was a cripple but oh no damn we so racist i mean i'm italian i'm off white if anything oh yeah you're shrouded your white person the italian it would be funny though if you agree to all this but you kind of forget it and then you go to the gym one day and you start running and then you just do the fucking thing i oh shit i forgot you have that four seconds of you starting if you stop and you look around everyone's looking at you weird i'm just trying to like what would this scenario be where you have to run like you need to deliver something or cancel and you just how you're like i gotta do it i just gotta here i go but if you deliver something you're gonna have to carry it while doing that run so well let's say it's information you just need to say something to somebody you gotta get to them first it's a really crowded area jumping i don't hate jumping i'm just saying that you never do it but it's an every video game it's just it's all i'm saying but you never jump health bars are in a lot of video games and we don't really have them yeah you do not really not really you have yeah you got health bars no they're just much harder to interpret in your life blood bar or something that might be blood bar that sounds like a place vampires go after work hell yeah oh dude you'll be fun to come up with all the different cocktail names for that you did you ever see daybreakers i did yeah i would i wouldn't mind re rewatching that sometime all i retained from that film is i don't know if it's a twist or not maybe i shouldn't say but just the mechanics vampire movie with teeth and hawk it is and sam neal okay cool yeah yeah a long time ago though i don't remember anything about it either i don't remember liking it i can't remember how i felt about it i think it was pretty neutral i was like all right i was moving that that's the world where that like the vampires have taken over and there's like farm produced blood stuff or am i thinking of something else yeah there's a shortage of human the vampire society yeah that's also blade trinity though that happens and i don't we gotta see the blade movies i've never seen them actually oh dude we'll happily do that especially if they release the blade i love the first two blade movies everyone likes the first two nobody likes the third one yeah i think x-ray girl does but she likes ryan it's it's gonna be better than whatever disney had to put it out what yes that is probably true because at least it's rated r i think i think three straight r wasn't it i think so yeah i think so um hey daddy moley since you only watch good movies if certain people recommend it ask those people to watch pig so that they'll tell you how good it is i've seen a couple recommendations for pig a nicholas cage i'm definitely gonna do a methods fortune pig at some point then movie sounds hilarious yeah there you go and if i don't think it's that's not what i've heard i don't think i feel it's hilarious yeah i said it sounds hilarious i haven't have no idea what actually happens because it's a bit of a serious film but um i mean well either way let me know and we'll we'll have a look see thanks for pointing it out now i can't stand anything that sounds like re-speacher i know right um vader's voice didn't annoy me at all in episode three and then four he's not um he's not in full very much it was five that he really started to notice in here and then made the points and then by the time he hit six i was actually getting really tired of listening to him like i don't like this fake vader this this is sort of it's microsoft vader microsoft vader nice oh and there's a cute little emoji of the mic simulator with a heart uh which would be cute which would be easier convincing brown table on high top that spider that spider can be spider-man without tragedy or getting a straight answer out of twin perfect about his opinion on anything um getting a straight answer out of twin perfect i think we get the straight out of the twin perfect first yeah i i think you could eventually wretch it out of him because he would have nowhere else to hide yeah he would he would eventually give an answer that he might not even agree with himself just so that he can stop the embarrassment and the shame of not answering a question because he couldn't take it so far before human is like i have to leave because i can't handle this anymore okay but so yeah he would eventually say something really stupid probably while i don't know you'd ever convince brown table on high top you can do spider-man without tragedy it's too important to their identities i think yeah they would say like that's not spider-man there's some other preacher yeah or is when perfect he doesn't consider not answering questions a part of his identity it just sort of happens to me that way just sort of happens when you put two things he said together that contradict well i guess it would just be i don't know how attached he really is to like fending anything any particular because the impression you got from that discussion is that he's not that i guess like just not as interested in like the discussions about interrogated himself very much he's just yeah exactly and so in that sense i don't think he cares as much about like what position he'll defend or anything like that whereas yeah in the case of these guys with spider-man it's so important to their identities and you know what he will give an answer and you just put smug Ross on the end and you'll feel he's covered okay i'm good smug you guys watching the boys no i forgot that's even running i just saw a random tweet about it and i was like oh yeah that's happening i think it was open bars chat i asked for everyone's reviews of it so far and it was like the most mixed thing i've ever seen there was great and terrible everywhere so have no idea what we're dealing with terrible series i did see you guys don't care about spoilers for the boys right no i've seen the first three episodes then but honestly if he gets spoiled i don't really care i could not i don't think i could care less well so i won't tell you the result of it then but um what in quotes boy i just saw someone posting it and everyone's really excited that homelander has a boss fight with uh soldier boy butcher and he we all at once okay yui yeah they all have superpowers now uh i did i thought the whole part is shut up right the uh the boys taken compound b though that was that was in the books for i was actually kind of surprised when the first season started that they weren't doing that i was like oh they're like fighting them without powers well and i'm sure that the season is going to address the obvious thought of like isn't that the whole point is we we don't want to be like no i'm sure they'll have something for it but it really does immediately come across as very unintuitive it's like wait but i thought you know there's a way to execute that i don't know i don't know how good season three is uh but i've heard lots of different things about it we may check it out at some point in the distant future if it gets loads of recommendations or if it's considered perfectly bad but i just i really don't have the time i wanted to kind of but i just don't have the time sorry i especially like hanging out with things like the geeks and gamers people and stuff i'm sort of the least sensitive to things being woke like it's sort of something that doesn't bother me as long as the story is good like i think i would say everything everything everywhere everything all at once in arcane is examples of things that people could say oh yeah there's aspects of that that i won't watch because it's woke i'm like you're missing good stuff but the boys season three episode three was the most heavy-handed like over-the-top messaging stuff they have a written episode of a show that i was actually like blown away by it to the point that i'm not sure if they're trolling or actually serious about any of it it's i don't know it's it's weird and the first two episodes were okay like they they weren't horrible but they i wouldn't say they were great either but the third one i was like oh it was a different writer on this one for sure i'm already spawned some serious cringe for people in chat to be believed about the events of this season so that's you know that's all fine uh i will say uh is it more is it worse than episode seven of season two in terms of the blunt yes yeah you know yes it like it was i i think it's more heavy-handed than any episode of any show i've ever seen like i was sort of shocked it actually kind of opens with like i think a four minute long sort of ode to cuties where like starlights like a ten-year-old girl dancing hypersexual to a britney spear song and they're really milking it too and like guys like okay come on yeah we get it her mom's horrible but they leaned into it pretty hard so um well awesome any expectations for the re4 remake also hyrax hi i don't have any expectations i hope it's good but i have no clue what they're actually going to do with it i haven't looked into it enough to have anything i don't think it's going to be good or bad on anything i just over like i'll play i'm gonna be similar to the re2 yes that's the re2 team okay yeah i liked re2 remake the re2 team made is making four and the guys who made the three remake made eight like billage oh okay i just hope they remember what made resident evil four kind of what it was which is that it was hyper gameplay focused and it wasn't like if it was coincidentally atmospheric and stuff like that that was cool and neat but it was so focused on actually playing the game and it was very mechanics heavy that i don't i that's what it it really needs to be if you're going to remake that game then you need to have a game that's all about kicking and aiming you know actually taking advantage of body part shots and shooting things out of the air taking advantage of i-frames just doing all this really cool stuff that resident evil four had it makes it so fun and replayable and keeps it an awesome classic to this day and its age so well i wish they'd stop using lightsabers as lighting i think that'd be fine if it wasn't every fight because it's kind of it like it's almost seems like it's a thing they're relying on to be you know interesting as a fight instead of anything else um because i i don't mind the idea i just it's gonna be execution again as always this is dragon ball evolution bad fighting to me i've not seen it i just know it's terrible reputation the show isn't canon to me not a surprise um i hate that obi won lit his lightsaber first yet i should always like there's lost when they have no choice but to fight i agree that he did that in revenge well so is the thing he was there to kill him but that he wasn't so yeah i don't know bad when he realized that he truly couldn't be saved and that anakin was gone he decided not to spare him totally is like well my beef my beef was with anakin if this is darth vader now we have no problem yeah we're all chill you go ahead i hated the oh wait this fight reminds me of the lightsaber fights i had as a kid i think we probably did a better job though yeah i trust that special effects too rags saying episode four is the best dual laugh my ass off clunky as fuck rags and episode four is best dual i think well in reference to vader and anakin i don't know if you said that i don't know i can't remember i can't remember if you was i i said the most impressive fight is the mustafar one the most mean but it's just two different animals entirely them meaning on the death star is almost not even a fight well it's it's about which one's doing more for character versus which one's doing more for i guess action because my favorite my favorite is vader and luke on on the death star that's my favorite not because of the court i i mean i think that's my favorite payoff in it but my favorite fight is probably the best one best one's really great that's probably like they yeah it's it's i go to a lot of locations and they keep this the the the atmosphere is so strong in there that's true i think it's just when i think of like probably my favorite moment in star wars it is like the the ending of the fight yeah like uh in return of the jedi when the music kicks in and like oh it's so it's oh it's wonderful it's wonderful the music's perfect because it just captures the yeah it's like epic but also tragic sort of thing exactly um yeah so you know it's like the video we covered today it was epic and tragic yeah of all the oboe one beta fights of which there are now four i guess yeah um so you you'd rank them in what does it mean for everything that's happening between them in this fight and then also a gas choreography and then you can go further than that but if we stuck with those two choreography like the one in the in the quarry was absolute garbage the one no the one in the finale was like i'd just say bad without further inspection it's better than the quarry i think i'm happy to agree that the new hope one is clunky it's uh it's awkward um we all know why but like at the same time i don't know that it like is overtly terrible as a result of that choreography wise and then the best yeah easily the best is obviously the most of our choreography beats out the other three um i don't think anybody's disagree with that but then which one is like meaningful in terms of who these two people are the quarry one fails again like completely embarrassment the finale is like weird there's loads of weird choices that get made and then things that don't quite make sense in terms of power levels everyone at the end if it's at least it's very easy that we all agree obviously the two kanobi fights are just the worst of the two easily yeah that's what i'm trying to get to basically is like mustapha's meaning is a lot in that it can be excessive but there's a lot in there and then of course the new hopes is very straightforward in terms of understanding the mechanics of that too and uh and so we're going through all of that of course rags would rank the new hope fight above the two fights in the kanobi show i assume we all do um the question is just like how do you rank them against each other when it's the most of our one versus the new hope one and i think fans will fight over that for a while so that's fine i don't even have a strong take i mean i i i enjoy talking about it i just know the kanobi ones were fucking awful they were the big i meant between the two good ones yeah um yeah they're just so different it depends on what you're looking for i do really like actually rating i do really like the fight because i will pull rags here a bit i i do like the fight between obi one and and Darth Vader on the death star it's it's a it's a it's a good sequence and the choreography isn't like awful i think that's something that a lot of people said it's really bad but it's not it's one of the fights that looks the most like an actual sword fight like you do spend most of your time in a sword fight guarding and waiting for the other person to strike so that you can counter so i mean i i wouldn't even say it's bad choreography it's just more about the scene i can't speak much to that i i just think it's okay and then when you think about what's got like it's not unpleasant to watch and so when you have the character stuff you know supporting it when you consider there's there's damn near what how many years between 77 and 2022 almost well exactly what you have access to a lot more tools than they had when they were making that yeah that was so focused more in their prime as well like um yeah it's it's um you had no excuse you had every reason to be able to succeed all the technology a huge budget a massive corporation behind you legions of fans that you know you have to please and with it when a new hope you know that was 1977 you only had so much to work with i hear a lot of parts to make that movie was a just absolute disaster mass and you were doing something that was unbeknownst to you going to revolutionize science fiction forever yeah um that you have no idea where in this case in this case you know like god damn there's no excuse there is no excuse there is no excuse there is no payoff to compare uh in the kenobi show compared to like even obi one looking at luke and then smiling at vader like that shit that's great in terms of i want to check so much that i know it's been talked about to death but like the look how did my father die and the look that he gives and just how well that now fits in in terms of everything that's been added so great how did he die well i didn't kill him it wasn't me it wasn't me i would never do that i said never told me vader killed him the the meme of like that's what he said that's literally what he said to me sort of a product of his own actions i suppose like he led himself down a path in which he led himself to be killing himself it's really metaphorical luke you see you're being a bitch luke all that really did was cut off three of his limbs and left him to burn alive i didn't kill him gosh you're so mean thought he died painfully and slowly but i was how many doc i thought about stabbing him through the chest but we all know that doesn't work no it's it's practically giving them life by doing that how many doc scenes were there in the show a lot yeah i guess a couple of them there's a few i see your schwarz is as big as mine well obi one's schwarz was much bigger than vaders in the end there okay vader got a schwarz burned off on moose to far and he's still kind of upset about that you could in star wars you could probably get like super bionic cox yeah probably luke luke can feel his hand at the end of empire they poke him a pin yeah yeah he's yeah it could be like it could look perfect and be just the right size and you could get like extra little stuff inside of you so you could just like fucking come like a racehorse and so anyway you know it's in that universe it exists shot what's no i was actually looking to make a point which was that uh you go you go to wonder about vader um being that the first fight he properly has with obi one he gets minced second fight he's dominating but for some reason has like war flashbacks just doesn't do anything third fight he gets minced again and those the two fights he lost they were like full on actual fights while the the weird one in the quarry i don't even know what vader thinks about that fight number four he wins but he didn't like i wonder if he now thinks that's the show he's just like was that really a win he kind of just gave up yeah exactly well now he's the master see he's been training it's like you ran off this time it's for real this episode two of that fucking emperor's shit where he's like i got him i killed him the emperor's like oh yeah i saw it he kind of um kind of just stopped fighting you didn't he's like no no i won the fight yeah okay yeah sure showed him you got that math that vader mask is looking pretty new you get yourself in yeah i didn't want after i destroyed your other one this is that right he was like no i got a polish does he have bears do you think he has spares probably he of course he has spares i think oh wait maybe doesn't because it probably don't get destroyed that much well yeah he must have a backup suit it's very important to have it but is it like a super special it's just obama only wore two colored suits but like he would have a more calm down like the only the only ever wore i think it was um uh blue and black suits but like he would have a lot of different suits you know so it's probably the same for uh for picturing obama at his wardrobe there's a vader suit in there and he's like he's that one for the drone strikes he puts that on ray was always ray was always the chosen one i'm assuming we're saying this in a very joking way because fuck off wasn't star killer the chosen one in the force unleashed law or at even eight anymore the chosen one always screws everything up the chosen one is whoever the riders want to fluff up because whoever the riders chosen when when yoda says no there is another i think the force unleashed tried to argue that he was possibly talking about um not killer as well at his star killers star killers dead before yoda says that though or like i mean assuming that clone star killer isn't i was about to say have you seen have you played force unleashed too because he ain't dead i reviewed them both but i mean he he is it's a clones or i mean possibly i guess you know clones on people wow you bring it up it's probably only a matter of time until um they do a star killer thing i think i think it wouldn't rule it out is what i'd say i i could see them just now make the idea is i don't think they would do it directly oh no no no they can't do it directly with the timeline they want to do i get well then again who gives a shit right but like yeah i think they'll take the character and give him like his own show uh if she probably will star killer is like the shout of the hedgehog of luke skywalk it's funny at least i played that which uh platform because i played on we i played on nintendo way oh i played the first force unleashed on we as well i can't remember i know i played it on this at one point but i can't remember if it was my first one but i i played it on psp and it was actually quite good oh boy the psp one is good yeah the psp and we version is and ps2 is the same game obviously the we controls are obviously unique to the we but um the xbox 360 and ps3 and later ported to pc version is the the one where you have the as much you can free aim your force throws when you pick up objects and yeah i reviewed it on pc in fact i think mawler commenting on that is the first time you and i ever interacted hello hi yeah it was uh oh i really liked force unleashed when i played i'm sure i'd like to play it now it was a fun game yeah i remember at the time i thought the graphics were like insane if you mod it to 4k 60 it looks crazy even now like a old school lucas arts games they generally were pretty high standard thanks doll was 13 13 looked really cool thanks it looks better than most of the games we're seeing trailers thanks guys yeah we got to know it admittedly apparently it was um george lucas's idea to change that into a game about um all of that i think it's unnecessary i'm happy to just follow oh man i don't want to recognize ever again well we're to sum up everything disney has done to star wars unnecessary which is well yeah it's just the mood i'm in i never want to see anything i recognize ever again in my life all right bye rax i'm gonna find some strangers for a day so i said mawler's accent is weird where's he from i assume he's american but i can't place it yeah he was down the street from me i don't know why the base assumption would be american but all right that is a bad base assumption everyone like bring the s how to get it i don't what i don't get it no i don't the only way i would get it with frigates if you've never heard australian people talk before i i just be like oh you just don't know about it but even then i think fringy has sort of a distinct sort of way of of speaking it's definitely not the standard common accent here but like it's not american at all moments like this i just stare at worst medal from at germany i think we don't know that for sure i don't know i mean where's he from i don't know mawler is as well as jimmy car is irish i mean i'm pretty well i just don't the accent isn't as obvious jimmy car oh jimmy uh luke is not luke skywalker well like i think it has become official we'll just call him skinwalker luke from now on which is different from jake skywalker i don't know why but i i imagine um the uh you know like in the rick and morty decoys episode with the uh the one who's harvesting skin that's what i think of whatever you say skinwalker you know sometimes they're you know further along down the line there'll be monsters with skinwalker luke yeah i gotta be back too they will milk the fuck out of skinwalker luke isn't it yep so dystopian uh batwoman theme is more appropriate for this show i like the theme that got composed for uh the main thing yeah the remix the remix was kind of kind of it was like the version of that i like the uh the theme that they made for obi one that um that john williams made like his thing that he's it didn't do much for me i thought it was fine i i well i yeah i don't think it's like incredible but i like it i'd have to hear it again i like the remix not the remixes but like the um the ways that it was occasionally incorporated into the score rearrangements yeah but uh i think it reminds me a lot of the spider man insomniac spider man score like the it does yeah yeah it does actually i'm now that you say it it's like that's it i can't remember which part made me think that was the case but it does sound a bit like that it's sort of the main theme yeah for any sounds like a posh english guy that spent 20 years in deep rural scotland and now his accent is mixed that's how you get australian i just i hear all the australian isms from him so i don't even come close to associate but i've definitely got the australian isms in there for sure they're um trisms yeah i could uh i could definitely go more um uh i'm actually forgetting the word i guess loose for sure but i want loose i want to be a little bit more precise with my words not go crazy oh yes giving blaya seven same rating as halo and boba fat that's the biggest of all the crimes it's it's horrifying yeah it's insane isn't it no it's less than seven than the ones that also got a seven yeah it's what is the most outrageous of how the how the fuck did they get seven like halo getting a seven or boba fat getting a seven what's more outrageous i think halo upsets me a bit i think i think oh which one upsets me more i think it ups halo upsets me more but i can believe that it got a higher score more because i think it's trying to do something it also gets the benefit of being an adaptation where boba fat is not yeah that that's my thing i think i would probably be more bothered by what is done in halo but uh because uh them saying hey this is its own timeline it's not canon is enough for me to be like okay well at least at least i cannot i can not care about nonsense timeline yeah i don't have to worry that every other halo game is gonna have to factor in your fucking show with the blonde chick that's the covenant spy that bangs master chief and then he dies in cortana possesses his body like what what is any of that seriously if you told us a year ago if you told us that was a summary of the show just be like you can't be serious please because they have the symbolism of like ah see his helmet cracked he's not a human anymore it's like yes this non-human saved all the lives of all these people here and stop the covenant from finding halo it's like yeah kind of your symbolism is pretty stupid when the point that you're making that humanity's got something that's intrinsically really cool is like defeated by a an artificial intelligence construct saving the day hmm remember they made that weird clone person and killed them to make and then they just never talked about that ever again well the flash clones were in halo like that's what they yeah basically they would abduct children and replace them with a flash cone that would usually die like a few weeks or a few months later of some illnesses and special person they like started to characterize everything yeah they just did honor it what makes her quite special is that she was like the first ai to be basically molded from like a cloned like brain like a human brain proper like a scan not like yeah the brain itself she's not like a toko kusanagi from ghost in the shell where it's like a physical brain in there no no of course not and i will say as much as it isn't really brought up again it is you it's banked upon mechanically being it is the reveal it doesn't work though i'm pretty sure i'm just saying they thought it did they thought it did but they think a lot of things work in that show that don't work uh can't wait for the star wars multi-verse when the ani from the universe where kwagon trained him has to fight a padme that has the force and fell to the dark side when her ani died you know what i will say as the show was going on in the couple of times their reference padmowers i was sitting there like did that i wonder if they got natalie because like she's doing ip stuff now with like thought maybe they got her also i was wondering you know if they did like yeah a what if star wars event where padme became a jedi she's like i don't know fuck it it's probably better than whatever show if it were relevant i think we said it literally at the same time just fuck it why not just do whatever i don't even care i don't even care fuck it wouldn't surprise me i mean again if they if they do have that crossover thing that uses the world between worlds time travel shit then a multi-verse was probably not too far behind ign said blight isn't scary that's what everyone does it have to be scary it is no by any normal definition it's scary yeah existential if dread if you want to appeal to like yeah but i wasn't scared it's like that's totally fine well i think that you're you're right bring it the existential dread thing i don't know that i found that scary i did find it very interesting yeah sure like i mean like i and so i think i can appreciate if someone's like yeah i was not scared by blyman or because that's that's sort of like that do you find it funny or find it entertaining thing like what scares you it could be a little subjective but the sake of um bringing being here i won't explain it for soma but the same has the exact same thing the scariest thing to me possibly in blyman is the fate of um um uh i forget what's the fielder sister's name yeah i used to know it i said it's been a while since i've seen bly now um oh i forget yeah i forget her name it's um well or andrew regardless she's the one of the earliest ghosts that's lost all pedita that's it lost all reference to like what she was entirely a barring of course viola just being the main one and um yeah she's just this this faceless moaning creature in the attic that has nothing to exist for it doesn't know what's happening with anything like i don't know there's something impossibly terrifying about being trapped in such a way that you're just tormented without even knowing why nor can you understand the nature of your identity you're on just your own memories and identity of yourself you know it's like it just widows away yeah and that's the fate of all ghosts and oh man i think that crystallizes when uh the other characters start to understand that's their fate yeah there's lots to dig out of bly that is terrifying in terms of because the hillhouse ghosts you know they this isn't me this is the show they argue at the end it's not so bad yeah i'm sure that's the show's perspective not ours just like hmm all right man yeah because i was thinking about how like yeah you can argue that for how the dad does the thing i was like well no it's the fucking stupid groundskeeper family they're like we need to die in the house we live forever or whatever it's like oh god feel like we're tangling our point here bly though that was very straightforward almost beautifully done actually i'd just say it watch them both again uh although i guess to to tie the two of them together i hear the rumor to play asra like the adult version of them is rahul kuli who is a sheriff and midnight mass and the cook i love his acting yeah he's good yeah gets me every time with his performances i wanted a much better fate for him as a sheriff but i didn't get it oh yeah that would have been nice hey would have been nice if there was something sad as time has been ghastly and over there oh hey hi vampires oh fuck i hate it i hate it so much it hurts such a stupid ending um today's animal of the day is the arowana hmm i could just call me i think it's still illegal in my state illegal to hunt them all no it sounds like marijuana legal in my whole country you look pretty unique arowana although we can't buy handguns anymore so oh it's right off it's a fish boy arowana i like kale they are expensive look at that little fishy the dragon fish neat dragon top of it top of it is shockingly level yeah it is clearly the best way to enjoy a fight is not to be able to see it at all thanks game of thrones for setting that precedent yay fucking season eight um please read the pokedex entries for drampa oh hi rampa dr amp a dais da woon yeah i can't wait to hear what it does to children in the woods or something yeah uh let's see pokemon db i guess that should do the trick pokedex entries okay i mean it doesn't look too bad it looks kind of friendly it doesn't look so bad it looks kind of friend like like a little dragon thing i guess yeah and what does it do all right see pokedex entries a specific one or just in general the worst one probably kind of looks like falcor okay uh we're gonna have fella it has a compassionate personality that's good but if it's enraged i don't know where this is going it completely destroys its surroundings with its intense breath you know i thought it was gonna start off with it has a great personality that it uses to lure orphans and children into the wood at night and then steals their souls uh let's see if a child child that has made friends with this bullied drum will fight the bully's house and burn it to the ground oh my god Jesus it's always it's it's always about children they always overreact these pokemon like the other one is much more nicer it's like it appears in towns and places with the children drum will protect kids when they're in danger so their moms don't have to worry see that sounds way friendly it will protect children at any cost i want to see the pokemon adaptation where it's like humanity dealing with all of these creatures that just exist in their world trying to keep some semblance of a civilization cobbled together it's like some of the avengers where it's like they have the power to destroy the world but they choose to be happy fluffy and wobbly with them around and you're like okay i hope oh that's good anything we can do for you it's a friendly pokemon until up until it's angered when that happens it stirs up a gaze and flattens everything around damn it's dangerous yo uh i think the writer said just play with the idea of killing luke george's character i mean they certainly tried to bait that it would happen which is just as we've said is a bit weird but you know um even vader didn't know luke was his son palpatine told him in episode five so how did reva know something vader didn't she didn't know i don't i i don't think i don't think she knew i don't know what the fuck her motivation was but i don't think it was that a lot of people think it is but that's not what the show says i don't think obi one better call sold prequel where each season shows old band for a small bit and then most the show is clone was black and white is old i mean i think they're saying that it's a serious recommendation and to be honest with you don't do it yeah it would be better yeah i am oh i think the girl the biggest flop disney did with star wars was finn could have had an interesting plot where storm trip defective possibly had a possible force connection but no no wave and a lot of people agree at this point oh sorry no i don't know what the term the term biggest for that though it says but no wave him being nothing more than a pointless rebel i i mean i think a lot of people agree at this point that like one of the most wasted opportunities was finn well what a waste of a great process i think i will say he's been outclassed now because back then it was new characters now we've we've been wasting all of these classic characters well yeah boba fat was a total waste obi one's probably the everyone might be the biggest waste uh so far i'm not sure and like i said they're even doing things like making me really dislike playa when they did they didn't have to and i think they're their intention was to make make everyone love her more it's like oh man look at how look at how brilliant she was from young a's except for when she jumps off a friggin building for no reason but like they don't think about that part that was just her being a kid but look at how she picks her way around her cousins why do they know she's adopted how about that um sorry i'm a bit late with this but the fireflies in arcane being called fire lights is stupid it is i don't care how many different names we have for them those names are always made up of the attribute part and creature part fire fly fire bug glow fly lightning bug etc these make sense but fire light doesn't that's like calling a ladybug a lady woman or a dragonfly a dragon wyvern it's stupid and confusing hi rag hi i'm not sure that's how the format for naming everything there's gotta be examples where fire lights would be similar to how something's named conventionally for us but even if it wasn't that wouldn't mean a fictional universe can't do it that way also a fire light is the light of a fire not necessarily just combining fire and light like it's it's a i guess it implies to i always assumed that was one treated as a thing um it's the the light of a fire it's like um the well i think this is worse right you know like they had the red light for go and the green light for stop in dark strangers world like what are you saying that's impossible it's like no it's possible i just don't see at all how that could have happened meanwhile with fire lights like yeah i can see how that could happen yeah absolutely we call ourselves the fire lights where you know we like fires well sorry wait he's talking about the bugs oh the fireflies so i don't know if you remember but there is a team of people called the fire lights but i'm assuming they took their name from the creatures that are called fire lights in arcane that are those little flying because those things are actual creatures but then there's also mechanical ones that a jinx has so they're saying why would these creatures be called fire lights they should when that's not how naming conventions work in our world oh it's not our world i mean this that's as far as i feel like i have to go with that it's just like yeah they just used a different convention to name them i think if you have a a firefly like creature that people would reasonably call it a fire light because they kind of glow like a flame and produce a little light it's really it's not not at all a stretch to me at all it seems totally normal and reasonable especially because they're not they're not nuisances the way flies are so maybe they also have flies in arcane a fly would be ascribed to something more annoying than the fire lights they all seem pretty happy when i don't uh hello from all of new zealand did you know we have the longest name town in the world i dare you to try and say it you'll need google and youtube won't let me post it really i thought the wales had the longest one i'll be right back no moment to see if i can consult some of my canadian first nations friends if they got anything in the tank for us apparently there's the north island of new zealand has a place named okay tomato whack a tangy hang a coward i'm not it sounds like you're trying to sing a corn song yeah it's a long name uh good stuff uh you could call that be trying it's some cultures mola took that one personally yeah we've been dethroned i didn't know this is a thing that's bullshit wales still has the best flag didn't get ragged not only is it absurd that obi one didn't know anakin was still alive but what's worse is that riva tells him this as if she somehow knew he didn't know when really she'd have no reason to assume he wasn't already aware that's that's actually a good point i didn't know that oh i hate to do this but i'm actually going to defend the show i'm so sorry ahead of time oh no she says that um she says like that he wants you or whatever and then obi one reacts and then she says oh you didn't know like she feels him in the force not knowing so she thought he did know ah don't it's still shit it's still awful wow mola is a disnoid i'm sorry me best redemption kenobi star wars battlefront 2 or star wars fallen order and why i'm not familiar with any of the ones other than obi and it was terrible it's not even a redemption so fallen order is the only one of those i i enjoyed well i i don't think it's an amazing game but i thought it was okay it is your answer everyone one cool i didn't know i really didn't like battlefront 2 as some of the war shooting mechanics i've ever played in any fps in the whole life what was the story yeah it's even worse the story is actually worse than any aspect of the gameplay what about but isn't it exciting that ea or dice have said that they're now they don't have time for anything else like mirror's edge they're uh full time on battlefield oh oh wait i can't stop no one wants to play anymore i just mentioned in chat uh wait why didn't she feel him on the desert planet when she was like right around the corner yeah just shut up okay you're making this show look not how the force works that's a good point stop that we'll stop with those good points evil uh does the empire not do physicals when you start working for them wouldn't they see riva's lightsaber wound and go um are you a young there's no way this works it just doesn't work yes so they know who she is and she knows they know who she is and then that creates a problem for how she becomes an inquisitor there's ways around it but apparently they she thought they didn't know which is insane i don't know maybe she has a fennec iron stomach even then though they'd be like oh that's an iron stomach did you get stabbed in the chest of lightsaber or something hey you can make up any story at that point why would i need wait why would i need to get like bionic replacements if i get stabbed with a lightsaber that's nothing i just walk around i'll be fine why do we still have to be like yeah i would have died if it were a lightsaber it's clearly a blast and they're like okay check that out without records remember one rogue one brought up the idea that lightsaber technology was behind the death star weapon it puts a hole straight through alderaan but it's just fine it's just a big canyon in the middle but the planet carries on being okay and eventually it just it just gets better that's it like they're they're reckoning their own shit constantly i don't they don't care because each one of these writers doesn't talk to the other writers and well i like this is the first one of the disney disney plus tv shows even in the marvel ones where i'm i'm almost convinced that there was at least one writer on staff who was intentionally coming up with bad ideas pitching them seeing if they would do it and then turn into his buddy and be like you fucking believe they put the trench coat thing in the show dude you owe my five yeah they're just like well no the the fun part's not even started yet let's go to twitter and see the people defending it yeah how long until we can start calling them wrongers uh you know rax you go right ahead season two pitch riva kills obi-wan then weekend of bernie's is culps the rest of the show setting her up as the master puppeteer in a new hope uh yeah why not that's gonna be my answer to all these fuck it why not i'll put it away right it can only be just as bad um it's actually if they try if they make it as silly as possible people will stop taking it seriously which makes all the in there they'll be like oh wait we gotta draw the line somewhere and maybe they revert back to just more people head canoning only certain parts of it which might be the best you could do at this point is just trying to convince people slowly that so much of the series just didn't actually happen it was just a crazy fever dream that you need to forget uh the lady riva mutilated wait what the lady riva mutilated was pointing out an inconsistency the empire doesn't have jurisdiction here because the huts control the outer rim quickly cut off your hand before the audience thinks about it i'm sure that won't cause any problems for the inquisitors just maiming i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure i brought that up in in the first one i said that uh i think you did it would i almost said it is like it'll be interesting to address it because i like that idea i like the idea that there's space that's more so controlled by different factions and the empire have to respect that uh but we don't get that at all and then we even have a character outwardly suggesting that that's the case and she just gets attacked it's like okay nevermind whatever remember when they baited us in boba fat that the huts would be involved and it was literally just to delay the timeline that was it and give him a fucking rank or it really was just one big delay because they needed to fill time and it still wasn't enough they had to poach mando episodes or what happened he's what happens jeez yeah robert rodriguez yeah tackling boba fat and i remember everyone's saying gonna be great they're gonna give him full control and it's like yeah recently found our saltier than crate on reddit a subreddit dedicated to hating people who criticize star wars go on there and look at efat for a laugh to be fair they devote to hating people who like uh who criticize the sequel trilogy they they're created as a parody site for the not the reverse but salty than crate spelt with a c for crate is what a bunch of people created in response to the last jedi and it's basically a subreddit to basically like you were the crate spelt with a c as opposed to the other kind of crates spelt with a c yeah i'm curious are you referring to the you mean spelt with an e you guys okay i'm gonna let me finish before you assume nonsense okay okay i'm literally reading the words i could help you just give me a sec so salty than crate spelt with a c is the subreddit that was created for people who hated the last jedi and they told about it obviously the meme being crates the salt but it evolved into a subreddit that mainly covers memes about the sequel trilogy and then disney star wars a lot of disney star wars fans didn't like that subreddit in fact they hated it and so they created salty than crate with crate spelt with a k and then that became a parody almost of like look how stupid the people who hate the sequels are and they would collect images and videos and titles and uh now you've got those two subreddits to choose from if you hate or love the sequel trilogy have fun um we end up on salty than crate spelt with a k a lot because we don't like star wars from disney a lot of the time as you've made noise um so the way to remember it is like k for kathleen kathleen kennedy is there um is there is i'm not like really ironic though that you would have like uh presumably the idea would be ah the people who are featured as salty than crate but it's like it's a reddit dedicated to shitting on not us though yeah well i mean there's even the moderators on the the more the subreddit have gone to the point now where they're just like don't just be like look at this subreddit i hate them like just try and just just post a way about you know content and stuff just because they that's what this that is definitely like a weird sort of internet subculture thing isn't it that it's a subreddit that's about shitting on another subreddit that's about a specific subset of star wars films it's some it's kind of like for lack of a better term it's kind of culture war stuff you need to be seen as though there's a pushback that that alone is important it needs to be known that there are sequel fans out there saying that the people who are just being loud or wrong and that most people love the disney star wars that sort of stuff and the funny thing is i'd be like yeah you're right most people do love it unfortunately depressing isn't it but like that doesn't change that it's really poorly written yeah but we're at um but the orot was poorly written to mollard ah yeah bonk at that point at that point again what exactly is it that you guys like about star wars you do you do end up wondering to do end up wondering everybody keeps telling me everything everybody keeps telling me it sucks yeah the dark side is the color wheel is the path to many decorations some knight consider unnatural i think i i i get the joke fortunately there's a couple of spelling errors in there and that's okay also how do you review your super chats before hitting enter for spelling and grammatical mistakes they might obfuscate the point that you're trying to make yep i can try and correct them in real time but some when i saw a knight i was like oh wait maybe that's part of the joke and i was like no it's not but uh yeah it's gambled on that one wrong billiam has done a four hour breakdown of lost i really enjoyed it have any of you guys seen it have any thoughts i'd love to see him on one day so i've seen all of lost what about the rest he is none none yeah um my review has always been and which is a hot tag even for people who hate lost season one and two the only good ones then it goes to shit and i used to think it was season one two like three four but i rewatched it a couple years ago and when i got to season three with a friend we noticed a sharp decline in execution for characters and we thought we got so annoyed we left um so but back in the day i was super into like seasons four up to four but i remember when it gets to like the last few seasons it gets fucking insane and i've told you guys before say it again they introduce time travel and nice yeah not the greatest choice lots of other stuff too um i think we're in game it would be to introduce a different type of time travel that's not really time travel at all in the last season and you're like what yes it's a little weird though uh covering the first two seasons i'd be interested in doing on e-fap maybe someday maybe e-fap tv that could be an idea because it is really good stuff uh at least i remember tv that'd be nice we'd have to get like our own little like a color palette for it to sort of differentiate it from the other ones though make it look really nice i know i was like referring to that thing as i was yeah yeah yeah yeah uh city is giving veda life advice would you call that a sythcom bring he's getting coffee he would have loved that now veda you should make sure to save 10 salary that part of the sythcom a fun episode with a deciding how much they're gonna pay stormtroopers sheave pal peterson you guys gonna cover the boys season three no idea uh no probably not i i just have zero interest in it it doesn't look like it's likely considering we haven't checked out any of it and the fact that i had absolutely zero intention of covering anything to do with stranger things and i'm at the point where i'm like we might be covering that because i'm enjoying too much i really liked stranger things season four i'm seeing a lot of people are really liking it even people who haven't seen any stranger things before which is one of the most fascinating fucking elements of it honestly that's interesting and they added a good villain and that that does a lot because i mean the even from the stranger things season one the villain was just kind of you know like an anonymous monster thing and then they did that two seasons in a row i mean i guess the second one was like that was a bunch of small ones and third one is like now it's a huge big one i think we're here they're like now we actually have a villain who has a personality the thing is there are plenty of like what i would call issues with the writing in the in the series but they're getting i can't believe i'm saying this they're getting over shadowed by a motivated powerful villain that has understandable mechanics you have a new character the brand is a show that bounces off everybody in really different ways um the current characters some of them that nobody gives a fuck about at all and the other three seasons have been given so much new material this really strong dialogue is much better than it has been in the lesser seasons i'll put it that way and um they've been making use of music uh they've always made use of music but i feel like it's been stronger this season than has been before um and they give a lot of time do a lot of things to build it up so how it goes far is oh yeah don't worry people in chat already seeing examples there are some characters that have suffered this season uh for other ones to rise up you know it happens it just seems like the hype i hope they end it well because they can uh they can really make stranger things a bigger cultural impact again if they can end this one strong and get a good season five because stranger things kind of disappeared a little bit um but yes maybe we'll talk about it who knows what are your favorite football teams uh i don't really fall i don't know the kansas city chiefs because my parents really like them and when they win my parents get a tiny little they like it so that's good enough for me anyone but the patriots never seen a football game in my life my favorite's the patriots oh you're just news i knew something was up about you oh god for me growing up it was the green bay packers but i'm not really a huge sports guy so i don't know they might they might suck now but can pack these nuts yeah honestly they were just the ones i use in an apple blitz so when they were cheese people would always be like yeah my team i um i just think of the michelin web sketch with david michael just saying next time on the football the football will be like attacked by the new york city state giants of the mountains and the ip switch is just like a bunch of nonsense words but he says it really aggressively and it's just really who will win the football uh take it home at the end of you in yeah kenobi is as powerful as ray confirmed i don't even know what to think about that fucking scene i don't know if he could accidentally do force lightning probably that is pretty insane though they bring it up a lot as the example but yoda jedi master yoda one of the strongest in the force really was having a hard time stopping some rocks from falling on top of him and moving him to the side and now it's just like we're we're pulling ships down from takeoff and ripping apart hulls we're lifting half a mountain and throwing it at people effortlessly like guys calm the fuck down you used to be able to throw a box at people now wait a day with jedi fucking grabs a planet and throws it at somebody that happened it's only a matter of time until the real super chosen one uses the force to yeah pull a moon onto a planet yeah you're right it's only a matter of time i saw a lot of people who were defending the vader pulling the ship that's thrusting off back to the ground saying like oh yeah well star killer did that in force unleash and the thing they they don't remember is that that's a ship that's crashing and he just kind of makes it crash more slowly and moves it away from them he doesn't stop just better but still insane i was gonna say that's better but he does he does turn it like almost one to one with his hands which is just like that's pretty fucking impressive it does get a little slow and star killer is powered up as hell like he is uh he's definitely overpowered especially for where he'd fit in the timeline but i can wrap my head around he's slowing a falling object much more than like this is a spaceship taking off that you're you're canceling out the entire power of its engines we don't even need like we just all i'd say is just like vader can't do that because he'd have to have done it in several instances where he had the chance to and didn't in the ot i'm sorry it's locked off you're not allowed put it down you should have thrown the boulder from shrek swamp that would have instantly won the battle that is a nice boulder yeah that is a real nice boulder also i watched shrek the other day pretty sure donkey took out more knights than shrek in the doolok arena fight high rags maybe but i i don't know if maybe it was he was set up for success by shrek you know yeah but they make a great team opinions on the boys season three in recent episode we have not watched it i was watching the last scene and thought well fringy's wrong again then it happened i laughed so hard can't wait you see you dumbo's reactions they're on the way uh i think you guys will like the mini it's it's getting cooked so i'm excited to see it also play ddlc too and hi cj glad you're back you would appreciate that thank you um digimon of the day is leo mon all right actually sounds familiar like a familiar one i think he's like uh you got a good picture yeah i remember that fell fellow from back as a little child boy dude if this guy could like boy child up straight up talk to you you would start to be like oh um you happy being my like controlled pet like creature he's like like are you really in control with that guy i don't remember the rules for digimon are they like are they the same as pokemon or is it different like in terms of they're different they are they creatures that are like alive or are they just sort of well they're digital creatures like they don't exist in the real world right you have to go into like a computer the digi world yeah they're like their own universe things going on and stuff those that make sense a little bit more ethical that's crazy i would be concerned about leaving that thing at home alone with my wife oh no i you think it's gonna fuck your wife i don't know i i i don't know that if it wanted to look at it it's got it's shirtless it's got all those fucking muscles on it oh i don't want that leaving that alone around my wife oh boy do your objective standards only apply to western storytelling or would you say that they can apply universally to every movie ever made also hyrax hi find me a story that doesn't adhere to the realities of cause and effects i don't know that i don't think any culture is uh separate from those it seems pretty basal to the nature of the universe yep and it's kind of cool actually because like some of the stuff you see from like foreign countries in terms of well it's like train to busan what i have to love and appreciate about that is how much loads of it follows cause and effect and it's just like satisfying i guess in some ways the some of the high scoring things from completely different cultures end up being for the same reason that i think the strongest stories are the strongest stories yeah um hyrax and friends hi hello what is your favorite story in a video game for me it is either red dead redemption two or final fantasy 14 great i've got a stock answer prepared i like but yeah we like ourselves some we like ourselves some soma we really really do the more i dug into that game's story for the videos the more i was like this is so fucking cool and it's got huge potential for like a tv tv show um the rise and fall sort of thing without saying anymore it's kind of um biosharky in that way which is another one of my favorite sort of game stories if i was to say it on my list not necessarily because i think it's the best written one ever but i fucking love it it appeals to me very much it's executed really well yeah get a good sense of progression as things ramp up there's a lot of good stuff in you know the mass effect series and uh there's some good stuff is the question best video game narratives or favorite your favorite story in the game uh no you go for it because i'm i think i think me and rags are done now sort of i i i've been trying to narrow mine down since i heard the question but i don't know i'd probably go with like metal gear solid three if i had to pick one but that might be because i like it for the same reason i like a lot of movies like it's it's just a very exciting kind of interesting story with characters that are interesting with some cool twists but there's definitely stories that are executed better so i don't know like it's soma i think actually would be a pretty good answer though i don't know that i would have picked it had you guys not brought it up it kind of slips under the radar for a lot of people more people need to have played it that's the thing yeah so much i think because if you explain what soma is to them and you just say that's a game where you're i don't know i meant that like i wasn't going to explain the plot i was going to say that you're you're walking around like a research base under the under the ocean and some shits chasing you and already said too much okay sorry we weren't we we should have been more subtle with our noises smaller yeah well i i wasn't gonna i don't know what you thought i wasn't going to talk about the reveals like that is literally a reveal well i mean yeah i guess i shut up i don't even know what it says on the steam page just saying words just say you think it's neat there you go it's neat it's neat game you should play soma after i play it you'll be able to speak freely you're currently chained up in the world of spoilers oh man it's actually tough because as i sit here it's like what's my favorite favorite is uh that's a tough one is um i'm just trying to pull up all like the my steam games but in order but then it's just gonna be what me scrolling through steam before i just like oh yeah that was pretty cool yeah i like that one um i'm not gonna read it but i think the steam summary spoils me wow i'll make sure not to read the steam summary in that case i was gonna say i don't know where the last time i read a steam summary of a games narrative was i don't know like they use the barb on the steam page uh the problem is i could just pick a list of games that have really cool stories that i like but i don't know what i would pick as my favorite and the discussion would also be as well a matter of um something that i think is fun to think about is how video games the different methods that they can use to convey their stories they can do the conventional cutscenes and stuff like that but then there's also environmental storytelling and like stealth games or in metroid prime um branching paths like kind of what they tried to do with mass effect to some extent um a lot of cool stuff in indie games well i i mean that did do it but i don't know how katana zero was cool in terms because i see it here on my list that had a cool story and it was presented in a way that was really interesting um i mean i i like the narrative in a lot of grand theft auto games but i think a lot of that is much more so that i enjoy the dialogue a lot in those games more so than the plot itself the plot's pretty straightforward a lot of the time um like story in day six uh i like um i mean look i like the story in the last of us i think i think it's i think it's good that's that's one that i came to appreciate more after two came out it's like you know what one's actually got some pretty cool stuff funny that this follows when a few hours earlier it's like that game is so overrated but you know what that's a pretty neat story things can be good and operated mechanically overrated the story is mechanically overrated but not not too hard not significantly so um i don't know why i'm struggling so much because there's there's like a whole bunch it's just that i can't pick one really uh i like the story in infamous mentioned that before um right well it's a snap decision if someone put a gun to your head and the time was going from five to zero you have to make you have to say one my favorite video game narrative it doesn't have to be true but what would you say it should be true um do that well what i will say is that no video game has uh yeah you've run out of time too bad as hilarious if we give him the guy hold on the fucking gun i know it's the point but i the caveat would be because i i you die if you don't decide yeah i couldn't tell you a whole lot about the narrative itself but or in the will of the wisps uh gets me at a certain point every time there's this one part that gets me every single time and or in the blind forest there's one part that gets me every single time like without fail um i know both of the parts you're referring to exactly i figure you do and it's because i couldn't tell you a whole lot about the narrative of those games really in full i like them but i guess the fact that they managed to get that response out of me says a lot about what they're achieving more so basically no no dialogue to a side scroller like they do a really good job of just visually portraying their story mm-hmm yeah well that's that's one of those fun things what can you achieve with no dialogue or minimal dialogue or minimal dialogue yeah portal too's got some great writing as well all right there's a whole bunch of answers oh metal was last right yeah well for me it's god of war 2018 i love that story uh especially especially i said multiple times because it works if you haven't played the other god of wars but it does so much more if you play them and you're like aware of the whole story of kratos and then when a certain thing happens we need to get something and then i'm just being vague so for some people who haven't played it uh just just hits all the all the good fan service fields but it's also very important to the overall story and as well that game and just all the dialogue in that game is fucking amazing like it's a really good dialogue it's on steam now too really good port it is i haven't even bought it on steam yet because i just recently replayed it on stream and there's like oh by the way it's coming out of the steam now it's like oh okay i'm looking forward to streaming that again yeah i played it on the give me the god of war difficulty and it was unbelievably difficult but because it's a sony game you don't get a specific achievement for playing it on the highest difficulty because they want it really that well most of the sony games i think since about uh 2017 maybe 2016 they started just totally eliminating difficulty trophies to the first party games that's interesting you can definitely ones for like unshotted too because i remember playing that on a crushing difficulty all the unshotted games i think yeah i mean those were like the standard achievements anyways for most parts like oh i can get achievements for just playing all the difficulties or playing the hardest one or whatever well there's a big kind of subculture around collecting platinum trophies so i think they wanted to make it so that people could play on easy mode and still get a platinum trophy which i think kind of beats the purpose of i was about trophy for accomplishments it's like but i don't know there's a these people tend to use that trophy as more of a statement of their fandom than a a show of an accomplishment i say i got the platinum i like it that much it's like oh or did you did you find the challenges engaging the piggyback on what met was saying a little bit as well as uh that was a game that story like had me convinced that it did so well on its own and i was like you know what i don't even need your your references the other three games i'll take your tiny little indications that maybe it you know like that that actually happened i don't even know but then when you get like the third act it totally makes it over that yes we are a sequel to those games and it's done so fucking well um meanwhile like it's a friend of mine and did compare and they were like to the obi one show they were like isn't it interesting how like him activating that lightsaber should probably be treated with a pretty significant moment and it's just not at all it's like the show didn't even know that it matters like you'd miss it he doesn't then he runs away it's like oh cool yay epic um what up my n words horizon zero dawn is coming to pc wait what's going on molla what year is it help me i have a family molla please uh hope you're okay but yeah a lot of thorny games play special games pc yeah man that's probably a lot of salty console boys deserah yeah it's gonna be easier there this Tony though they are not happy the era the era is over sony has now recognized what microsoft's actually aptly recognized some years ago which is that even if it was too late well because i'm too long but even they eventually were like oh yeah we like money don't we yeah fratanga and oh no it's alex are like paying off their mortgages right now because i'm sure fatigues get a lot of good memes out of uh out of all this yeah uh the first land animal was the frangoloid i you know what i don't i don't know if you're correct about that that'd be amazing geez you're old yeah what 400 years old damn neat what and i'm an elder it's god yeah of uh life well not the beginning of life on earth but not even the beginning of complex life on earth but close to it oh it doesn't consider himself the beginning of complex life you heard it here that must be uh that must be scary for that little critter going on land it's like what is this there's nothing here dude the the knowledge that if you go on land there's like nothing there there's no what to do now it's like our ancestors were amphibious but they weren't amphibian like modern amphibians those are less amphibians i think i read that one before i figured that would be the case that like a lot of the animal um i get what what are they called the like mine one like yeah something like that let me let me look it up amphibian whatever that yeah i would imagine that they weren't exactly the same um class that's the one i noticed that yeah class yeah i figure that's the case this is the order by the way for anybody curious life domain kingdom phylum class order family genus species that was one i remember that biological classification eight major taxonomic ranks because like genus is uh so like canid is genus right or no wait hell yeah best one canid is is family right and then k9 is is hold on i must know did you know that um did you know that uh the name for dingo is canis dingo that's that's their official name canis dingo yes i like wait so is dingo a latin word uh i don't know if it's a latin word but that's what they're called um as opposed to canis lupus the good old gray wolf yeah i'm pretty sure i learned that proper from fantastic mr fox when he's like canis lupus vulpis vulpis that's a good movie i like west anderson yes nice symmetrical shots they hold the frame you can hold the frame he does hold the frame he very much holds the face i'm gonna have very few directors even are aware of he can get away with holding it longer than most so imagine you have a child child says daddy i love tfa oh tlj or or os oh man do oh boba okonobi can we watch it pretty please what do you do pick an age and pick an answer what do i do if they ask specifically to watch the last jedi if they're my kid i'm fine with it it's fine yeah i'll watch whatever they want because you know whatever makes them happy i'll just be like i hope they're aware i hate it and that we can make memes out of it and when they're 30 make fun of them for when they were a stupid little kid who like bad things you like star wars do you say 30 i do it that moment i'd start establishing a pattern of you know reward and punishment the punishment being humiliation at the hands of your parents uh bingold since it sounds like we played basically the same games growing up what are your favorite pieces of music from the original ratchet and clank trilogy so many certified bangers to pick from that's a good question um the the the velden track in um in ratchet and clank one is pretty cool it's like a cool way to start i guess when you think about the the the the bangerness to bangers though um the the one on auxin was oh wait no i'm i'm i'm i'm mixing them up no it's it's auxin right they are that's the planet where um no sorry i'm mixing them up in my head now um i remember that um i really like novellas that one was really cool um i like the iridia track uh as well that one's pretty cool that like the main one no not auxin it was um quatu quatu had a had a really cool track and then um i guess that's enough from one like ratchet and clank two um the the weapons manufacturing um weapons manufacturing place where you could go on the tours where like the robot was taking the robots on the tours that one had a really cool track silver city that's a very easy one to pick silver city has really cool music um ratchet and clank three has a lot more uh orchestral ones but i really like a lot of the um stuff in ratchet and clank three um uh um zeldron starport's a really cool one that one's super interesting because it's got a very unconventional uh time signature it's like 11 eight for a good portion of it and then it goes to four four then it jumps back to 11 eight there's a lot of unconventional um time signatures in ratchet and clank music a lot of five four um i guess three four is not super unconventional but like there's three four not all yeah it's um and if we're gonna extend past it deadlocked has an awesome soundtrack um the marauder uh tournament super cool um the music when you fight vox the final battle music is really cool and um i think it's a ghost station one that one's super fun as well um and uh i liked um the tower of power i think it was like the avenger tournament climbing the tower of power is really cool um yeah there's a lot of great tracks uh in the playstation ones um it definitely feels like with those games you can see a sort of change in them like ratchet and clank one is very much ratchet and clank one i think you'd describe it as banger and two and three are definitely going for an epic tone which i like as well and then um deadlocked is edge just concentrated edge so yeah hopefully in your epic then edge yeah deadlock's the one that's like an arena shooter right yeah deadlocked is essentially ratchet and clank get uh put abducted and forced into a um gladiator competition called dread zone so it's like super uh combat focus compared to the other games which were much more um definitely like ratchet and clank one is probably as close as to pure platformer as the series got two and three or more of like hybrid and then um deadlock was like just action-oriented yeah i haven't played too much of the series but i've enjoyed them i always found the writing is a pretty funny part yeah it's um it's it's got cool satire lots of lots of funny lines and jokes and a lot of things that they managed to sneak past the sensors that were really funny as well like pretty edgy jokes your kid might not get this but you will yeah yeah kind of but even a bit edgier than like anything that pixar would try to uh try to get in well is it the third game it's called up your arsenal yeah oh well yeah exactly um like it's very cheeky have you lads watched michael your arsenal is cheeky that was unintentional but anyway continue have you lads watched michael clayton starring george cluny it's tony gilroy's writing and directing debut and it's one of his best underrated films one of the best underrated films i have not under by no i have not seen it yay um justice dankula best twitter meme i've i've seen some of the stuff he's put out it's funny rather amusing if anyone's seen it thoughts on the tv show psych i enjoy the hell out of it but need to ignore the insane luck i can appreciate it for the comedy i don't even know if i've heard of it really you haven't like the tv show i've not seen it no i i i hear a lot of good things about it uh but i have not seen it no it's not well all righty my family is starting to realize that the characters in these shows are trash unfortunately they still think the fights are great oh that's okay yeah that's fine well a friend of a friend of mine was despair you might be adopted a friend of mine was trying to make the case to me the other day it's like yeah well i kind of like these shows the way i like transformers movies and stuff like i don't care about the characters or the story or anything i just like seeing big robots fight i'm like but was that always what you thought of star wars do you get that really knock it's always the action yeah like i don't think so well yeah i mean i wouldn't even have tackled that if i wasn't just like but it doesn't is it not sad to you that now you're putting star wars in the same camp is like michael bay transformers movie that they're equivalent to and that's that's fine i don't know like i'm i'm bothered by that i'd also say to the guy like who likes to transform as michael bay ones wouldn't it be cooler if like they had cool stories yeah yeah that'd be nice so what what if we stripped out all of sam whit wiki's parents just like cut their scenes out entirely just have it all be an animated film on cybertron that'd be cool in california bees are now classified as fish also high rags i'm pretty sure that's the case because it expanded rites that needed to go to bees that they couldn't find any other way of doing it uh yeah apparently california bees can legally be fish and have the same protections accord is ruled yeah um right yeah like oh sorry not fish i guarantee you it's because of the way law works that's probably the fastest and most efficient right so there's a there's a california endangered in species act and the ruling found that they could be considered fish under that so this is what apparently this was it the issue presented here is whether the bumblebee a terrestrial invertebrate falls within the definition of fish as that term is used in the definitions of endangered species in section uh 2062 threatened species in section 2067 and candidate species species being considered for listing as endangered or threatened species in section 2068 of the act okay so it it seems like just technicalities and stuff well yeah and if it's if it's done in order to benefit a endangered species then yeah i'm all for it that's fine with me yeah if we get to protect the bumblebee i'm pretty sure i just watched a kers gizak video recently about how bumblebee populations are declining in north america and europe yeah i think there was a black mirror episode where they were trying to replace the bumblebees with like little robot bees and then that obviously creates an apocalypse because why wouldn't it the robot bee queen figured out like what if i leverage my power in numbers to like over the world it's like b-movie but with robots we should watch b-movie for efat movies molo what's the song you use in your game of thrones video you know the one that comes at time in all forms of media consumption where you're so utterly bewildered thinking of using it for my own video uh also high rags hello here's the problem i do not remember at all what i would have used and i assumed i would um i think i remember i think you told me about it was it um westworld no uh that is in my tfa video oh sorry mix wires game game of thrones one is a while ago now and i know what part they're talking about because there comes a time in all forms of media that line's not in my uh tfa ones i heard westworld season four is coming here i was like i didn't even know they made a season three of western it is coming out yeah hey maybe we'll be like stranger things and be good who knows but uh yeah i'd have to go and check and even then i'm not going to be able to tell you the name of the song i remember looking for like a piano the copyright free piano that captured the tone i was going for that's kind of what i went with um so i'm afraid i won't be able to direct you to it there should be some way for you to be able to find out if you take the snippet and then put it into some like website it might be able to tell you i don't know so to clarify no stranger things questions uh no but it yeah sorry if we didn't make that clear the idea will be save it for um at least until the season finishes anyway but it may be spoilery because well fringy's going through it and who else some people here might end up going through it it's unclear as of now so uh just give it time but then go right ahead quite amusing that i didn't i haven't seen seasons two and three and apparently it doesn't matter so some people will tell you it does i'm telling you it doesn't you'll be fine scotus if you strike me down i shall become even more mostly peaceful than you could possibly imagine rovey wade kanobi okay need to ran not only did vader leave reaver alive like an idiot but they left her with her lightsaber and no guards empire tracks lightsaber parts dude is so fucking dumb that we didn't even talk about the fact that they just like like that lightsaber is worth a shit ton of money and valuable resource it's an inquisitor item why the fuck are you leaving her with it what's wrong with you but whatever it's fine don't worry about it hey look it was it's funny to think that rage is a powerful motivator so powerful it kept me alive all right you with a similar wound we shall leave you after betraying you i'm sure nothing bad will come of this it literally established that she's vengeful against them specifically before they even did this to her yeah and gave her the exact geniuses that he survived i still can't believe that that like she got stabbed in the gut twice and lived quite going got stabbed once and died i'm serious man like if we were making the story together we would flag up times we're like well no she's gonna have to die in this scene and then you'd be like yeah but we want to have that payoff later it's like all right so we have to figure this out while they would be like wouldn't they kill her in this scene it's like yeah but we need her later so they don't so they don't yeah simple like you understand that my raising the question means that i probably need a better answer than that they're probably just gonna on the riva show just have it be like oh is Darth Vader's plan all along was to leave her alive so that she could lead them to blank yep throw anything in blank it doesn't matter uh Kenobi don't be embarrassed it's only nature taking its course you have no choices to make riva nothing to answer for you can die with a clear conscience i'm sure like it i don't know what she's going to be up to but it wouldn't surprise me if they make her do some incredibly important and good things in the star wars like universe you know i wouldn't be surprised if the show happens she was the one that destroyed the death star and returned to the Jedi actually as it turns out she she went out there flew out there with her force powers and cut the hole in the death star that they needed to blow it up like when vader throws the emperor down the hole before he explodes she has a boss fight with him and then we're like yeah he comes back anyway and then they're like yeah but she was on the kill them fighting the balrog as well as they're descending crazy mid-end yore i can't wait for when we are long far enough in this stupid timeline where they just start reconning their own character's achievements with their new characters like you know it wasn't rey the defeated palpatine was actually riva i mean is it only fuel they need they're they're running out of the old fuel and the only thing we have left now is what they've created and it's like a spanking itself but here's the thing i think you give it time some people will come around and be like you know what those sequels were actually pretty innovative and bold i think you're not as many people as i think have come around on the the prequels but i think they'll be there because yeah what will they have to cannibalize that they're gonna expend everything that's kind of a new feature i think that's the first time i've ever done it but uh someone gifted 10 memberships oh wow which is yeah a whole bunch of people can use these chungus emotes so how did gifted 10 mall so what does that mean you're like gifting subs oh so 10 people got member oh wow ripping up which again that is the stuff they said but remember you two have correctly ripped off twitch twitch failed to rip off youtube like they're supposed to rip off what youtube does better but they haven't yet yeah but uh yeah thank you um yeah thank you very much where are we what a chad hey guys i'm relatively new to the channel but i've been really enjoying the content efap is the only podcast i like and that's definitely because of you all you guys are seriously great to listen to oh thanks that's good i like that when they i like your podcast and it's definitely because of you guys it's like oh good yeah it's well rags we've been made aware that there are plenty of shows online that just play other people's content i really love your problem we could have just done that i would have been so much easier would have been way easier but yeah we fell in other people's shit let's go we're moving to twitch regardless of what mauler just said about twitch and youtube we're going to twitch we're just going to steal other people's shit no we will say whoa every once in a while or wow yeah and i'll eat food off camera i'll eat food yeah that's how i do it the crazy thing is like they would probably if they didn't get enough pushback be like all right one on one starting up as a react youtube but go google hell's kitchen find a way to stream it you know like wait what what's happening and make sure to have some food to make it even harder to speak yeah also have tits the second anyone complain say what do you want me to do die die yeah what do you want me to do what am i supposed to do die weird oh no uh rags are you aware of the uh the drama with hasan and xqc no i so xqc is that other loser streamer right oh he's he steals the most with the least amount of give a shit out of everybody okay that's what that's what i know i'm yeah i was in that dark viper video he's popular on the platform and he decided to do a tier listing of our other twitch streamers um he put he put hasan and b tier b tier no he's putting c tier didn't he oh no c tier all right well so the important part is whatever t he was put in destiny got put in a tier oh no that really upset him a lot so much so that he was talking about how like i can't remember exactly the things he said but he was so mad he went he went a bit scorched he called him like because i would imagine when hasan gets in that mood he like starts like bringing out nationalities and ethnic groups and stuff because he's got some opinions on hasan he doesn't like marley superior to all of us so yeah i i believe destiny is definitely up there he is a high tier streamer well it's really upset hasan and yeah he said some stuff um but he did he then went on to say like i don't care i don't care i don't care and everyone's like you know what when you say it for the 50th time i'll be convinced it's yeah it's something i notice a lot people who don't care say that they don't people who do care say they don't care a lot what i think i like the example i don't care about lacrosse even though i just mentioned that's the canadian national if you keep using that example we'll start to wonder what's what's another obscure sport what's what okay water polo yeah i'm gonna follow lacrosse lacrosse is legit pretty big in canada to be fair well that's what i mean different to it i guess it's probably it's probably like the way krik krik it is in the uk and australia i guess well in australia they call it kriket kriket that's no that's racist is a wreck that's no it's a door right there it's a never for me some people a lot of people are rigging up curling and that was kind of that was going to be my second one to bring up is that it's obscure but it's not like you tell people it's the one where they where they scrub in front of the big stone you know thing oh yeah oh yeah that one like everyone knows of it but they don't when you first ever see it looks funny on your mind yeah but then you kind of like watch it and you see that they're trying to aim it and trying to knock the other people i'm sure that's incredibly difficult sport to play um oh absolutely yeah i have a lot of respect for curlers is it curlers i suppose maybe i one of the things i uh i remember when i i because when i briefed there was a winter olympics earlier this year right um in the china right and i i think i caught them doing uh is is bobsledding i think or are there different variations of bobsledding depending on how many people are in the uh in the uh it's a bargain i do man foreman and the single person is luge where i can't make the weather i was watching it and i think uh as i was watching it i was wondering like what does it mean to be good at this not not just like an insult like genuinely i i i didn't quite it wasn't immediately obvious to me well i guess what i mean is how how does one achieve speed by uh like what does one achieve speed it's uh it's the cornering you're leaving your weight around the the turns yeah person has so it's a you've gotta you you got everyone pushing at the beginning and then there's the person steering and they want ever it's a it's a aspect of everyone needs to shift their weight on the turns and the driver has to avoid hitting the edges which will slow you down okay i was i just found it interesting because with a lot of sports there's a lot more trans it's it's a lot more apparent like the nature of the skill that's at play like it's more visible you know like the who runs fastest the fastest runner or um the guy who lands like the most shots in a particular sport whereas without one i found it interesting because it's not as clear just by watching whoever does it fastest well sure they're the best but i i guess what i mean is the method by which they achieve that um isn't as clear as you see with other sports just just interesting as all but and i guess they probably arranged themselves by weight like you want to have the heaviest people in front i imagine i watched cool runnings i just don't remember enough about the specifics of the uh the bobsledding stuff i just kind of wonder if you want to have the heaviest people in front or have more of an even weight to keep it like all the blades on the ice at the same time i i would assume that that wouldn't be much of a problem in terms of weight differential but i think steering wise would it wouldn't it be easier to steer if most of your weight was in the front where the where you actually have the steering blades yeah i'm not sure i might have it backwards but i would imagine that's how that that would make it easier uh let me take bob i kind of want to look up the physics of bobsled i want to read about it now like if there's a book that's about bobsleds uh so the heavier the bobsled the faster it will ultimately go however you ideally want the actual bobsled itself to be lighter because that makes it easier to push do you need a bottle or a cup oh when i turn to my head there it might have just been hitting the rim of this mug just the right way because i was turning towards my other monitor while i was reading that interesting interesting hmm boogie oh i fell down well frage on metal commander ifap drachen lord my rags hello metal your your people have spoken hyal i'm thick or whoever they say that's how that's how you say hello in german right hyal drachen lord is ragan i go away for two seconds what is happening nothing liar frage on metal commander ifap drachen lord yeah no oh all right that's like an infamous figure and an internet figure and i know dragon lord is i don't know if that sentence means something oh it was just frage's question so question at metal metal so it was probably ddl i think i saw that earlier yeah i don't think it's just like he always said like metal or something i don't know metal's got that bgc i don't actually know what's going on with him now i don't know if he actually had to go to prison or something oh i don't know i don't know why would he go to prison what did he do i think it's just he fired warning shots because he because he did docks himself at some point so people kept coming to his house or something uh so i don't know if he just moved finally i just know the the the community of the city he lived in they threw money threw money together and bought that house and flattened it to earth because people jeez he was that infamous the town banded together like something i know about uh that story was that there was some sort of like local german sort of um it was some kind of event and um for the event it was organized now something else but like it was it was some event a lot of people attend and the plan was to have it in front of his house and the police the police locked down the town so that nobody could get in to prevent it from happening so like i'm pretty sure that it's just like his whole story has just caused a lot of problems for the german government of just like having to deal with yeah i don't know if he i think he just had to move out at some point because he couldn't afford anymore something uh in the town well okay people people they just stopped uh coming to this place so they just flattened the whole damn thing apparently it like count ankyl made a couple of videos on dragon lord that i think the summer one or two yeah i think he's made two because there was new developments even after yeah yeah first one knows um we will get it part three because there's apparently lots of stuff still happened after that so there you go you guys remember the montage and multi-verse of madness where they're talking to mordo for the first time in the alternate universe uh yes and it's very 90s um i was going to tweet saying what in the living hell is this the look it looks like a 90s horror film just the CGI is a bit advanced how can sam ramy treat this holy marvel movie like his old horror movies in the 90s docked got derrickson's movie in 2016 was a work of art it's not a that's not a sweet i'd make that's not a sweet i'd make it is not a popular tweet let's put it that way you have the freedom to make that tweet but i wouldn't recommend it a lot of people are shitting all over it sounds wrong but the funny part to me was the one of the responses is wait what horror movies has sam ramy directed oh my god he directed spider man one two three and that's it a lot of people would be like os the great drag me to hell what even evil dead if for some people might be like wait what's that though uh yeah yeah anyway assume at least arkham origin's quality for first what new license game series would you make okay sorry can you read the first part again i didn't arkham origin's quality man i liked arkham origins yeah i actually liked it a lot more than night i like origins but that's interesting that they said origins and not like arkham city they said at least uh what was the super chat you get the quality of the game arkham origins at least and what new license game series would you make is arkham origins generally regarded as a good game or is it okay people tend to not like it it's probably one of the arkham games that i i think has the best story so there's something especially yeah it's basically the arkham games rags like it's it's a little bit different because it was a different developer but it's basically in the same mold uh and i don't know it might be a good like bandage to put on something you fear is going to get really really bad um i'm not sure uh what what am i what am i worried about other than fucking everything uh and i want my daredevil game oh and if i can get that kind of um put that again if you mod the game sifu with the daredevil mod it really feels like the daredevil game you want right you were the long man we're meant to stream for 12 hours eight minimum so what does it do that's true not burning me that's mean uh but yeah for me i really don't know actually it would be tough because i'm guess i'm on board with loads of different ips getting a game that's at least good hmm a little bit of a toughie there's plenty of anime that could probably have really good games if any japanese studio would put effort into one of them but most anime games are very quick cations that are not very good so i'd love a good berserk game but we're probably never going to get it elden rings honestly probably the closest we'll get to that maybe there'll be cool potential for a strange of things game yeah yeah there'll be some dynamic you can work with the whole upside down element things game that actually did get made like a i'm pretty sure there was something for berserk there's a lot of people think the dream cast berserk game is really good oh for stranger things sorry yeah i think netflix put out some top-down strategy really yeah apparently apparently oh really i i've never played the dream cast one i did i hear that game's really good the only berserk game oh crap okay we've done that twice somehow but it's all okay hey boys keep up the good work sending you good vibes and real shekels from israel what do you think will be the next big sci-fi brand that will replace star wars already exists or yet to come well it's star wars not star wars marvel it does seem like marvel did unseat star wars' position especially when they did the solo tlj part marvel were like we're taking over buddy we just and they seem to be doing really well because everyone still absolutely sucks the dick of every marvel movie that comes out yeah um what would take over marvel though if we had that question just be like it's probably gonna be pretty difficult to do that for a long time i'd say sorry we probably have to be something original because i don't think there's any major properties which exist now that stand a chance of getting an adaptation that could challenge marvel and star wars sub like scale-wise quality-wise like any move almost at this point uh next i don't think avatar will do it but i guess that's a potential i mean i guess yeah avatar i guess could stand to make as much money as those or like as much seems undoubtful doesn't it yeah probably not uh did you guys see the behind the scenes video where mark hamill was on set for book of boba fat luke's skin walker scenes so why did they use re-speecher probably because they were like we don't need you man we've got uh we can make him sound younger we can make him sound just like you sounded in return of the jedi which is what we need to do he'll be fine and then yeah he sounded like that because to be fair you know he doesn't sound exactly like he does in return of jedi at this point but why would he when he's that much older sounds like an older man which is totally fine but yeah they probably thought they re-speecher thing was like bulletproof uh wade milk when uh we'll let him keep his milk i'm not about that obi once said that he had a brother while in the truck yeah which could end up being some way they make a new series as well bringing a new character they want to be like marvel um marvel have characters all over the place all the time they can pull from all their source star wars kind of have to just keep making it up up which is funny because we would prefer that they go make all their own characters and some of the timeline and some other part of space i'd be nice yeah go fuck up your own shit in my head canon riva was beaten to death by sand people shortly after leaving the la's farm oh no the sand people are a peaceful noble culture yes they were proud and noble also very progressive thanks for posting old e-faps on soundcloud high rags hello it's not me that's doing that but whoever is uh thank you on behalf of people who prefer the audio visions uh melgios solid five is the story valley but gameplay peak of mgs yeah i can agree to that i must i also thought five yeah i think i'm gonna play half of it because i think the the story it looks like it it's done but then you have to do like even more after like 50 hours of gameplay i don't know i was confused and there is like another ending and some other arcs that wrap up and quiet storyline ends in chapter two as well but they the big problem with metal gear solid five is that there was supposed to be an act three or chapter three but if they fired today okajima from kanami before he finished it you can watch a kind of animatic version of it on youtube though it was kind of neat they do sort of a lord of the flies thing the liquid snake and psychomantis just have an island where they're like children that are running this army because it's the 80s wow okay yeah i know i finished that one because it's like oh i think i'm done after 50 hours and like nope there's more missions even more and main mission it's like oh the story is riddled with holes though it's like i can't tell you what the story was anymore i've completely forgot everything hey maul i wanted to say you're the you've easily become one of my favorite channels your videos are excellently made and i look forward to your future projects thank you very much appreciate it and i look forward to making some more videos for you to hopefully enjoy videos all the way greetings all and high rags hi hello you guys are gonna cover the rambo movies i always thought it was interesting that he doesn't try to kill anyone in first blood to mowing down countless foes by the sequels thoughts really not the same character yeah but it's also to be fair in first blood he's in like a hometown in the sequels he's often in like foreign lands fighting enemies and stuff you know but yeah uh they'd be interesting to go through i think yeah first one's really incredible second one's all right too falls off after that i think yeah i haven't seen the newest one though so for all i know that's great file fantasy 15 is a big mess but i love it yeah that's fair also it's a real victim of its story being spread out over too many supplementary materials that aren't just the game itself because there's there's a CGI movie that erin paul's in like the guy who plays jesse and breaking bad and um as well as a 2d anime that's i think four or five shorts they're on youtube and the story makes a lot more sense if you watch both of those and play all the dlcs but if you were to say hey but should you have to do that to understand the story now but i've played 33 hours of medley solid final fantasy 15 and that was when a friend i was here he was playing something on my laptop i was playing something by pc on the couch we're getting drunk for like a whole weekend i was playing the game i think i did like a million side quests and like five main missions i don't even know where i don't think the story hasn't properly started yet i don't even know uh there are two i believe chapters in in the middle of the game or towards the beginning of the game that are are very long like hey go kind of explore everything and do a bunch of side quests so if it's a 30 hour or say a 40 hour game like 25 of those hours or in two of the chapters fair enough and it's like 16 17 chapters so i don't remember where i stopped i think i got some i suppose this weird city where you have to go for a tunnel or something it's like a bit up there's this weird reporter guy you have to do missions for and he does like you need to do what is it a couple of photographs for him like a bunch oh yeah the the photograph missions usually are the ones that you get you can just find them around the open world yeah okay we can take a photo here then the end of the game though you get to kind of make a little photo album called all the photos you thought were the best so i think i finished that city i don't remember the name or anything i think after that this is the main stuff i don't know yeah there you go Sam Raimi says Kevin Feige cast John Krasinski is Mr Fantastic because the fans had a dream of who the perfect Reed Richards would be because this is an alternate universe Kevin said let's make that dream come true so that means it's not going to be yeah there's there's two big things for that first of all nice you said that like you wouldn't want to do a fan cast for the actual timeline it was like okay that's fine but then secondly like this did you remember what you did to him yeah like the fans were real thrilled to see him get turned into spaghetti yeah and also just tell wonder how to even though black bolt like i don't still don't understand how him screaming would blow up his own head but well why yeah yeah i wonder how black bolt fans are like fans of the inhumans feel about that but like he doesn't even get to have the fight he just sits uh mgs v's gameplay still holds up them controls i really enjoyed playing that gameplay yeah like i liked playing it but i had no idea what was going on no clue who these people were what they were doing what was happening the there's a guy who's on fire and he flies and then there's like a lady in a gas mask and there's i i don't even i the fuck is i don't even know whatever just let me play it's a little boy it's psycho mantis from ogre's i'm like if i just oh that helps and the flaming whale is a vision the flaming whale oh yeah there was a flaming whale in the opening right i probably i probably i saw it i probably just forgot because there's so much weird shit in that game a lot of the weird shit in that game is psycho mantis making people see stuff so they can get pretty wacky with it and still make it sort of make sense within its own universe but a metal gear game is never going to be rock solid logic wise so you're gonna have to make a couple jumps but i think they're charming will there be an e-fap on stranger things would be great it could even be a good topic for 200 just want a long-form discussion on it not sure perhaps no promises on that one uh you can choose only one franchise to replace the last decade of bad content with good visions of their shows and movies which do you choose to save the mcu the dceu or star wars uh star wars if it can be saved i think i would like to save star wars for the nmcu coming in the close second yeah i'm also kind of myself but i am yeah so snap decision i thought mcu because it's bigger there's more content to be good than what star wars put out like mcu being obviously all the movies plus all the tv shows um and you can say that same for star wars but it just seems to be less means we get more good movies and more tv that's good and you know the mcu is really influential it's a story everybody's watching pretty much it would be nice if that was good i think in that aspect it would be i think easy i think that uh disney would change gears depending on which like how they had the mcu's overtaken star wars it's totally possible that it would be the other way around if just kind of depending on what people latched on to and what made the money but i wouldn't want to tonight uh making star wars good if not great um all of its content because i like star wars i can bolster all of the more wonkier parts of its current lore and then it could expand significantly there's no reason why star wars can't be as big as the mcu really yeah no reason at all but yeah i'm not even sure but as you can tell from my choices the dcu has been kicked out it's like i just don't yeah i just don't have any attachment to it whatever whatever the dcu is i don't really care about it the difference is star wars was built on the ot the ebsu was built on like phase one and two having a lot of good entries dcu was built on what man of steel like i'm right we're not like trying to save its core and if you want to say like it's built on the source material fair enough but like i'm just mean as they currently stand and they're these franchises did any of you guys watch peacemaker try to yeah i thought it was all right it wasn't great but uh there's some good james gun decent action scenes dramatic story time my uh oh eight civic kept burning through belts till i found the cause was a seized ac clutch no problem i'll just reroute the serpentine to avoid the bad pulley i looked up the sky with one tear in my eye i had bypassed the compressor nice well hey and you can feel inspired by the lady who did it the best you're maybe you're a skywalker they're basically like gods mm-hmm that's what i've heard and in a way i've heard you you can just sort of grab the name whenever you want i've seen other people do it yeah and you too can become a god mm compressor that's great kingdom hearts three and final fantasy 15 both shared the same rough development due to what was going on with square at the time a lot of engine changes and rebuilds of the game right um i wonder if i can summon riot yms to the chat lion king ripped off kimba oh no that would be what would do it you're like a rumbling i guess let's just maybe that summons the video it just starts playing um and by best game i mean uh story it's and by best game i mean story it's the only one that's sealed with the brutality of war without coming across some movie as well as quality in all three game types i think this is the guy who's asking about his game all right story it's the only ones that sealed with the brutality of war without coming across as a movie well as quality in all three game types is he may be talking about metal gear solid five still oh maybe yeah i'm very confused by the the story isn't the reason you play metal gear solid it's it's got a lot of really good flexible gameplay approach objectives from a lot of different you know strategic philosophies but if you're going there for like the metal gear tight six hour action movie thing it's uh it's not really good apparently it's talking about card world war oh okay it was certainly the most it was i think it was the first brutal is call of duty kind of game it felt like it's a lot more raw in this portrayal of war yeah other games i mean they had like dismemberment and like a lot of yeah it was certainly the roughest how is when you're going to do an efab movies long kong not a meme yet i don't know what you mean the first person to ask that not necessarily a meme question i hear the movie is pretty good and i remember liking it i ridiculous to just suggest that would be a meme going to be an efab for the ages i'm sorry it's going to be an efab for the ages some massives are always trying to tism up hill oh played one army vs movie efabs start with total recall now it's a possibility yeah who is this robby wade guy and how did he die uh riva she threw a little battery thing at his at his sewage speeder as they call them in the uh show rip hit him so hard it killed his kids too blew up carnage everywhere hopefully gets on series have been saying maybe zone trilogy how would time zones work in star wars famous power world right probably yeah well each planet would have uh each planet would have its time zones assuming they did which most of them probably i think i think what they're asking is like so planets have different day lengths and different orbital periods so how do you light it all up across the galaxy i guess you well i was getting there what i what i think what would probably be likely is that especially if you have a singular very very large governing body there would be a set of standard time there would be there would always be like like our utc or whatever it's called but think of it on a galactic scale where everybody just kind of knows what the galactic time is so if you need to in a simple way convey time to someone else who's really far away you could say we'll do this and be there and make sure that at galactic time for 20.6 you know this is what an event occurs so that everybody can be on the same page i assume that's how it would be done i think you're absolutely nailed it and i was thinking the same all right yeah uh back when vader and yoda fought in soul caliber i remember i remember that star killer was in that one too i think like xbox got yoda in something was something like that where depending on what system you were on xbox at yoda playstation was vader and both got star killer uh if you want an actual good example of master fighting a former student who turned evil watch shifu vs tai long in kung fu panda so much better kung fu panda is just a good movie man yeah remember that they're darn good it's been a long time since i've watched it there are three kung fu panda movies right far as i know and uh there's probably like a holiday spinoff or something like shrek did maybe they should have a crossover with shrek kung fu Christmas kung fu kung fu ogre yeah throw the how to train your dragon dragon swamp foo panda i'd watch it the rise of skinwalker absolutely disgusting um if you want a good story involving so whenever they start like this you can just be honest and recommend whatever it is you're about to recommend what if you if you want it if you want a good story involving force ghosts one of the comics has a descendant of luke threatening luke's force ghost with suicide if he doesn't stop talking to him wow that's pretty dark okay uh why do weekend warrior and metal sound the same germans and filipinos are no way that's the same act you are having a joke i don't think they sound the same i mean you can have a side by side in comparison when you watch metals forge when he was a guest there you go cheap plug let's go i don't even know what cheap plug is German food plug cheap plug the plug is like is that like goulash no shut up goulash delicious uh thoughts on rahul koli's initial tweet on reaver she's black your racist there's zero nuance i think he's lost in the hollywood bubble absolutely absolutely um this is kind of the unfortunate thing if you like an actor's work you have to remember they've said something dumb on twitter and you just have to be okay with that they do the thing it's unfortunate that a lot of the narrative got made about disliking reaver cuz black as opposed to just how horribly written her arc is yeah so there we are discourse is utterly destroyed thank you thanks for that good job here's my thoughts on piki blinders it's mostly well written but it's morally bankrupt seasons rank four greater than five way greater than two greater than one greater than three and season six can suck my and what will it what will it suck i don't know i guess we'll never know but i guess you will never know that that's for you to fight about because i've not seen it and i don't know this morally bankrupt that's not good i'm not sure if i'm sure people will be like that's wrong because i've seen a lot of praise for piki blinders me too this fuck mary kill game of thrones season eight obi-wan kanobi and multiverse of madness uh what does it even mean to kill one of these does it mean they're just erased from canon that's a good question yeah i assume if that's the case a lot of people are gonna go with game of thrones yeah it's like one of the worst things that's ever been made so yeah probably it's single-handedly yeah killed off one of the biggest shows ever made that spanned a good near decade and tarnished its reputation forever um i don't know how to answer the other two i'll kill game of thrones but the other two i have no idea how i could make any of this make sense yeah also hi fringy hey they hide a rags for me hi rags hi fringy there you go beautiful we did it so it's canonical aunt baru stubbornness is why baru and oena charred corpse is in a new hope baru the empire on their way about these droids oh and i'm not leaving my home we're enough yep she killed him i can absolutely believe that they the stormtroopers could have just showed up and said hey we're just curious where they found the droid i guess you guys didn't see or whatever and she starts just shooting this is my place we're never gonna talk to the empire god get out of here the battle ensues like that is totally within her character now she's just a fucking bitch i mean she was barely characterized and now you've made her that like what the hell why kenobi people say it makes sense because she was wounded and i'm like oh my god this again kenobi is the show that managed to ruin aunt baru nobody is safe run hide your uncles hide your aunts hide your kids hide your one hide your luke's anyone but the patriots lol rags so salty i'm sorry brady re-sized the b-holes of 90 of the nfl but that's just what the goat does the goat greatest of all time what are you saying i'm stunned i'm gonna be honest i just like didn't catch that could you say that again is it rags so salty i'm sorry brady re-sized the b-holes of 90 of the nfl but that's just what the goat does do you have particular oh tom brady oh he's i think oh it's probably because i said i just don't i don't like the patriots or like i'm not a fan of the patriots i'm you made a statement about sporting teams therefore you must now defend it yeah which is this is definitely not a meme at all but the the patriot fan who really likes the patriots because uh is that they're really i guess they're upset they got a clap back but i just don't care for the patriots apparently tom brady because i don't know anything about football american football he's a quarterback he holds nearly every major quarterback record including passing yards completions touchdowns passes and games started in addition to the most pro bowl selections never having a losing season here's the nfl leader in career quarterback wins quarterback regular season wins quarterback playoff wins and super bowl mvp awards as well as the only super bowl mvp for two different franchises the only quarterback to win a super bowl in three separate decades brady has also been noted for the longevity of his success is the oldest nfl mvp at age 40 the oldest super bowl mvp at age 43 and the oldest quarterback selected uh to the pro bowl at age 44 i i yeah that's like a lot of accomplishments yeah he's the patriot's quarterback's been there way for a long time so he's still plays and he's 44 years old that's pretty that's extremely impressive considering the the physical nature of wow because over in uh australia land in the afl if you're like playing and you're over the age of 30 you are rare and you are probably very good um it's it's just not common that you have anybody who's playing really much into their 30s by then you're kind of that's it you're done you can though there'll be newer players who'll come in so 44 damn yeah i guess uh they really like tom brady that's good and you don't apparently i don't know i don't i i guess i know he's a quarterback on the like of the patriots or something i know the name he's a sports name but i don't know anything about sports i don't he's not none of the patriots is he not is he moved to some other it says he's in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers yeah okay man he sounds like a ghost i'm a pretty penny yeah koto one and two two obvious i assume these are the this is their answer for the best story yeah i've only ever heard good things yep yeah they're both really good uh frack the boys have you watched invincible yet no nope no oh yeah invincible is good and i liked it a lot so similar concept to the boys so that might make it seem a little less fresh than it might have had it not come out around the same time but it's it's animated the um the main performance that got memed like crazy was uh jk simmons is the sort of superman type archetype mark thank thank yeah uh i was getting that a lot for about a week think mark look up uh movie posters for possum creepy movie post for possum oh that is kind of me oh i hate it oh ew that's not nice why why is that called possum i don't want to know it's probably a bad answer like a creepy answer can you spy him deep within little possum black as sin a massive nazi film possum no i'm right edinberg film scott's the bloodish scoots uh mgs five modding is insane what games do you mod a lot um doom i'd say more than anything in the day i did a lot of modding for amnesia because i just played as a custom campaigns because i really liked them i don't make mods myself but i install them on let's see minecraft of course a lot of some mods for minecraft rimworld um we do some for when i played armo we do some mods on those there is stuff i'm not trying to think of stuff i've kind of played recently ish but for the most part it's minecraft and rimworld there's a to a sort of play now that i i've used mods for the last thing i modded was blatant sorcery sword and sorcery which by the way was a blatant sorcery the vr title just putting in more more weapons and stuff uh some fun tisms there uh what else warhammer total war some uh i was like rebalancing mods and stuff because sometimes for me personally warhammer total war feels a little bit arcadey so it makes the rimworld pirate it's so fucking overpriced is that expensive nuts and stain rimworld is worth every fucking penny oh yeah rimworld is awesome about the deal super quick talks about three mods like the convergence mods and stuff there's some cool stuff there as well i mean hey oh yeah gmod yeah it does happen that we'll say i'm not sure if that game was worth full price in the same way that some games you're like that game might be worth more than full price yeah elden ring was kind of that honestly yep mm-hmm i'm looking forward to replaying that in a year or so and then there's like a million mods out for it so the next one says dinosaur of the day citakasaurus fossils from this dinosaur have given us the first preserves cloaca known from a non avalian avalian avalian cloaca and the avian dinosaur and a belly button it is an early relative to triceratops wait hold on why would it if it's born from an egg why would it have a belly button i assume something connects it to the egg right is there a is there some kind of a connecting thing that keeps it sort of like attached inside so it doesn't slosh around too much or i don't know i'm sorry they're right earlier i said i'm bad with biology i'm gonna cite that again i know just just dina so cool the yoke dina so cool well they could have been the source it's always video oh i'll call it before you do it um i looked up citakasaurus and it and it said showing results for stegosaurus i guess by the way i spelled it in the first question people ask why is stegosaurus the dumbest dinosaur wow i like whoa i so i i clicked on it because i'm like that's so harsh like oh my goodness you've never met and it says why is stegosaurus the dumbest dinosaur stegosaurus is often called the dumbest dinosaur because of its incredibly small brain in fact scientists originally believe that its brain was too small to control such a large creature and that it used an auxiliary quote unquote brain located above its rear legs to help control its movements it's also the horniest dinosaur is it the big like plate horns on its back and i guess you'd call it it doesn't have any horns dinosaur those are the spaniest dinosaur look at those there's spaniest sign there's no no horns here triceratops is really cool triceratops you see you that's what you say like triceratops is very horny ha ha ha yes that is but it's called like yeah it's got all it's going to do them i didn't do my studying i skipped the rest of the dominion oh yeah that's well we're all just watching either so yeah we're behind on our shitty media oh no the thoughts on the chucky tv series oh i didn't see it why i have never seen any i've seen chucky one in three i wouldn't mind doing the chucky series at some point does it get weird yeah well that's what i was gonna say i was like i don't think child's play ever needed a sequel i'm fine like seven sequels in the series yes it did needs more all right i don't feel passionate enough about it i was just that i don't care about chucky kind of a neat thing i guess but no i haven't seen the tv show um stall was video games really never let me forget the music i'm gonna be a great asset to make use of isn't it you gotta stole yeah i was like in the audience there is they uh that little image of hobo from that episode is such a perfect encapsulation of comfort yeah it's hard coast toasty little sin fun i never want to get out of this bed oh god i'm gonna be immediately over thick thick thick i guess i'll get up i want to see the show just yoda tending to his little swamp yeah maybe he starts doing photography he always wanted to but he never got the time yeah and like maybe he's got a piece that he really loves a little bug creature takes it and starts jumping up and down around yoda's like no it has to chase it until he becomes friends with this creature see there's your writing challenges like creating a show that is just yoda hanging out on daggaba and making it really interesting but you could do it you could do it bring you look up the opening of the mumblebee movie that's exactly what you're looking for in a transformers movie i hear that movie is better than the uh the michael bay transformers films people like that opening they don't like as much the rest of it right well i think it's just what people want it's so odd that especially in the climate that we're in now that there isn't just like a full-blown transformers animated movie on cybertron like you imagine that now would be the time to do that instead of having the human characters and having it all be on earth like that's what people want to see i think yeah it looks like it's just a flat out like they're on cybertron and there's a bunch of like transformers that actually look like the 80s cartoon chilling out well not chilling out they're actually in an intense battle but yeah she helps feet all right she helps feet oh that's a show that we don't have to watch i'll not have to she helps feet the show oh yeah everyone's getting to spin off even her feet or geez hey muller and co just recently posted a video and have grown some following how did that feel for you how did you feel when tackling a new video um i think when the first video kicked off i immediately was in the mindset of like right so the next thing i make has to be something that i can actually speak on with some level of insight has to be something i have passion for and something that the people who've just liked the previous video would like and obviously i was like what about an in-depth look into the last Jedi that should be fun and then it was fun and the rest is history rags what about you okay like how how you how did it feel when you like started to gain some traction in terms of people noticing what you were doing and like then how did it influence like the next videos you worked on i don't know i can't remember i legit can't remember how i sort of felt other than it was insane you know like what what's happening here this is i don't how do i what do i do how do i deal with this but i don't really know um how that influenced my video making thought process is just a while ago and i don't i just don't remember i just don't remember i guess uh in my case it's kind of funny because the end game video is the most successful uh i was going to say i mean i i think it's it's i i think that video turned out all right and that one is doing well at the moment so i guess that process is ongoing i know what i'm working on next but i've been also doing the obi one stuff so i don't know how much it's influenced though because what i chose to start working on next kind of it became apparent to me that that's what it was going to be anyway because that's where my interest lie that's that's it i want to do it that way whatever my clients what i'll make a video on i don't really have a following but my wife's doing well well it's all right i mean well if either you about what i say anything about the video creation process go right ahead what uh oh i mean i mean only did the one john rick video and that they're all right considering i was my following was way smaller when i put it out and it got deleted immediately when i posted it so that was yeah that's fun experience hey you did your first scripted video in a week later okay we nuked it give us money to or we nuked your channel it's like you don't know that's the only video on my channel you can't flag anything else you fucking scammers but yeah i mean now i'm doing the the whole metal sports thing which was i mean it was basically muesli's idea i mean i guess you said you should do something on a regular base okay and then the next day i did a dune review uh so yeah that that's definitely fun uh yeah i don't know i don't really have a video that went like a viral whatever so i'm just i'm just chugging along doing my my content and stuff jamie lannister i don't care what people think of me i win lannister no that's what you want people to think mic drop from the master in conclusion hasang cares i rags hello conclusion it goes a lot and and again this this has got to be such a clear example of this but he's got so much money he's got a lot of people would want to have and he gets really angry that someone put him on a tier list below someone else who he has more money than and more fame and more people like him and yet it's not about money it's about i don't know self-confidence i guess dude i want to see that vision of the dark night it can't be about money if you advocate for socialism the joker's self-help book but also also check out my bmw hey uh uh oh feel the rhythm feel the rhythm get on up it's bobsled time cool run i remember the film i don't remember anything that happens in anymore well i remember that they lose at the end but then they walk wow wow line everybody and every spoilers for just real historical events yes from yeah yeah but technically all of narrative uh historical events now like that's literally what reading a history book is is getting all the spoilers what yeah he has spoilers like right spoilers um napoleon it didn't it didn't pad out it's like whoa hey damn dude that would be an interesting thing to like not tell anybody well like if it's kind of experimental because i don't know how else you do this but they have a bunch of kids you know like let's say 20 of them grow up uh you know in a earth like environment but they never know about the world wars and then they're given will war one and two as like tv shows and then they're like with fake names where needed and then they're told like no all of this actually happened i wonder what kind of experience that would be like i wonder if it'll be incredibly tragic and shocking that they would just like hope that their world wouldn't have been capable of something like that but you know maybe what what would be the first thing that strikes them as the most absurd to believe that this actually happened you know i think it would probably be a five stages kind of deal like at first they would probably be in denial like no no way and where i'm not sure but i feel like the first advice never even heard of world war two and then saw the opening of saving private ryan i would probably think that you were showing me fiction well that you wouldn't really like you said you wouldn't want to believe that's what's happened you know authentic observer made a great video about the defeminization of women in media gladriel and rings of power vorsch made a shit response she came back with a gold tier video slamming him she watches drinker too she should come on e-fap session adam did her channel name again authentic observer um well when we get around to the rings of power coverage i would i've already said i wouldn't mind having disperu on i've been on a few streams with him and um this this this this girl yeah sure it's lady yeah i'll check this out i'm aware of a lot though like yeah vorsch's response i'm aware of that yeah that's what adam last week did vorsch's response to her video i've seen the clip where it's fucking bizarre that he he looks at how she's dressed and says she wants to be sexually harassed by the men in mad man what it's just like this baffling like what are you doing this is not your you're not allowed to say that that's not your team stop you sound really fucking weird um and yeah she took full advantage of that why wouldn't you um and as far as i'm aware she did a pretty strong response because rings of power not looking good you don't want to be on the side of defending what they're probably going to do with that um but hey we'll give it a fair shake when it's out right guys yep absolutely we will no wow metal metal's already decided it's the best thing i'm with metal boom you already loves it yeah it's my favorite show ever our best show oh black mirrors white christmas messed with my head yeah it's quite a strong episode speaking of mad men yeah nice and creepy that episode full of all kinds of very horrifying future potentials that that's the problem with that show you're like oh no that's gonna happen isn't it damn fell asleep and i'm stuck in the past hi mark and hi rags hello also hi moodle hello um watch the behind the scenes video like five minutes long mark hamill was giving comments on how he feels luke would say the lines and they shot each scene once with mark hamill and again with the other actor well they didn't save his lives did they they they compared it with the robot and said you know what the robot's got this they probably did they probably said the robot sounds younger that's that's probably the the protection money that's being paid so that mark doesn't have any more conversations about his disagreements on the direction luke was taking i think at this point he's not going to say anything mean about did this always ever again they were just pretending to record it's like yeah yeah it's on totally oh yeah that was good right this is a new camera first take again good job it doesn't sound like me in the final version they're like no that was you that was you we did a little bit of like you know audio stuff balancing at the end but i did i could totally see a bit like oh we we just increased the volume it does sound like that when you do that yeah just some pitching that's it just yeah but it's all of you buddy thanks we really appreciate you showing up on set see and then they look at their watch oh you've got to go now don't you yeah you've got to go i was going to say like the next time he says so what are you doing they're like yes so we're shooting here and then he drives there and it's just nothing no one there they lied to him they're like i'm so sorry we gave you the wrong address last minute change yeah last minute change for the shooting we've already fired the in-tune that did that off as they go yeah so it's all done shoot also done shooting so you could just drive home it's fine yeah look all right it's it's fine okay we appreciate it okay just hang up on y'all there and it's just that good yeah yeah yeah yeah mm-hmm yeah yeah yeah okay okay okay okay okay yeah uh-huh yep starts to say goodbye like five times just keeps talking yeah mm-hmm yeah yeah it would have been better if it was about him learning of Anakin's past i.e. TRs while Vader hunts a fake Obi-Wan who's a Jedi working for Riva no layer Jedi working for Riva how does that work i love how i'm all of a sudden the point that i'm blanket agreeing when i hear it would be better if i'm like oh yeah already the idea of separating them out entirely Vader and Obi-wan on the the plots that's already better to me we get to draw out the meaning of why you're showing us these events at the same time because a good writer can make a strong reason for that um mark where foe you live be loud and clear jk um Toronto area Canada i mean i'm not going to give you my like exact address but we need a house number dammit i live i live in the biggest city in the country above america oh there you go now this just says wow then world of war i guess oh yeah they were saying that's what they were talking about i got you hey e-fap crew two questions one how do you guys feel about calisto protocol oh i'm looking cool yeah i hope it's gonna be great i can't imagine why any of us wouldn't play it um and most of us on stream so i like that it comes out like two or three months before the remaster comes out yeah oh feel there will be comparisons made probably yeah i guarantee you everyone on that dead space team is hoping calisto protocol is gonna suck please please be bad please be bad uh and two do you think there are video games that don't or shouldn't need a remake or remaster yeah absolutely there's loads yeah for the most part any any game that has a scalable pc version i don't think you ever really need to do a remaster of because if you can make it so that you can scale the resolution of a game from the 80s or 90s up to 8k like and i don't know you can always add mods too to make things look a little prettier but especially stylized games like i could never imagine them being like we need to remaster Kirby's epic yarn like um probably not no realistic graphics but yeah uh i'm trying to think of one of the examples i would say where you don't like Metroid Prime i don't see why that would maybe update the controls i guess you could have that yeah the controls of the gamecube version are rough but the prime hack mod on pc if you play with perfect mouse keyboard controls that is uh that's some good video game there um you guys got any other ideas on games you'd be like you don't need to touch that um you don't need to touch uh yeah um need to touch i'm sure there's probably yeah it's games that are really simple games that are linked to the past that's probably a fair shot yeah yeah there's probably a lot of games from that era that that Game Boy Advance kind of because you know where they have their own like style and look and you kind of like it and you really appreciate it now and you don't want them to fuck around with it just a suggestion of um Resident Evil 4 it's like if we strictly go to graphical update i'd be fine with that yeah the um the HD project for Resident Evil 4 looks pretty crazy but the big problem i have with Resident Evil 4 playing it now is that there's no there's no really perfect control scheme for it that feels like you know modern and not from the gameplay mechanics or everything but just specifically the controls because on the steam version you got you still have to like aim with the left analog stick which even for controller aiming is a bit weird and the most keyboard controls are for some reason i can never get any mapping like keybinding that works well so i could do with some revamped controls for Resident Evil 4 but that's pretty much it i play four on mouse and keyboard and it's fine for me there's a couple odd buttons i think some of the most strangest pairing of bindings that i've ever seen for a game are in Resident Evil 4 the the the steam version to pick up an item let me double check what they are uh i i just want to uh let's see you okay yeah you have to you you use backspace to pick up an item in your inventory and if you want to rotate it it's page down it's so weird as bindings ever i think i've ever used backspace down it no clue why because all of the other buttons are pretty normal you know e and f and move around is it it's pretty standard you know shift to run and you know space to bring out your not really standard stuff really and then it just throws you those the backspace and space down and so every time you go to your inventory you want to move stuff around you just have to move your hand over to those buttons that are way out there and i don't know that's just someone just decided those would be the buttons yeah and it's that some of them are unmappable too so you can't even like rebind them and apparently the the empty framework which is the engine that capcom was using at the time their games are like notoriously difficult to mod which is why you don't see very many Resident Evil 4 mods out there but uh that hd project one that just got released a couple months ago looks crazy good like i strongly recommend checking notice it's a backspace delete not page down so this is delete you have the delete key as that just for accuracy but that was weird because i know when i started playing i was like what where do the but because you assume it's just like f or e or r something like that no just pick up and rotate items but no no backspace and delete of course hi rax hello are you gonna play dark tide when it comes out it's the 40k version of vermentide i think it'd make a great efap gaming um i will probably play it i've played a lot of vermentide too i have over a thousand hours in it i enjoy it mostly enough to play that much of it so we will see how dark tide turns out i don't think it would be it might be okay for efap movies the problem is that efap the our crew we're on the the three corners of the world and so like ping and stuff can be a legitimate issue depends on what we play so a game like those that have good i just don't think it would be a game that would be great for efap gaming it's one you kind of want to really kind of get into the more you get into it sort of the better it gets and plus there is definitely a timing element to it and aiming it moving objects element as in corda black erin and x-ray girl been playing vermentide on their their sunday co-op streams that they they do together so um they will be playing vermentide tomorrow and they are certainly going to be playing dark tide in september we i'm looking forward to we'll see we'll see that that fat shark is um they make some odd decisions i'm not they do i'm not completely pleased with vermentide too i really like it for what it like the the gameplay stuff a lot of it i really like but there's some like legit downright steps back from the first vermentide and there's some baffling decisions they make yeah loot acquisition is just objectively in general is worse it's it's one of the few games where you can you could spend materials to make your weapons and gear objectively worse um it is it's it's a legitimately bad system that you're just gonna have to deal with in order to progress through the game and it's uh yeah i can see how it would turn a lot of people off because nobody wants to get on a game play a few levels especially in a game where losing is a huge loss to your progression and well everyone loses yeah well that's the thing it's uh because some games it's just if you if you're the weak link on your co-op team it's it's like bacon still kind of finish the the round but it's uh it's a whole different issue in terms of if you the amount of stuff that you get at the end of a round if you lose it's very very little and if you win it's the thing you need and so if you lose even if you get to the very end and lose at the very end it feels like you've wasted your time yeah and that's a shitty feeling to have and then when you do win and you get those materials and then you try to upgrade a weapon or roll for new properties or whatever and you just make your weapon objectively worse that's just a shit tier decision that whoever made just should be fucking fired what a ridiculously stupid thing to put in a video game and as much as i like that game i don't i don't blame it all the fact that people might not stick around or they see that and they're just like yeah i'm not gonna put up with this i have better things to do with my time especially when vermetide one just had a it had a legitimately better system will you going to revisit doom eternal uh to be fair i've never played it but i might finish it one day but i just don't care about it at all i think i need to give it another like shot as in stop from the beginning play through the end i should well i wouldn't mind streaming the first and second again just why not you know i'd rather yeah i guess it's good for it once so i like it i like doom eternal i guess i'm just trying to figure out why it is that would doom i sort of blasted through that one right to the end whereas with a eternal for whatever reason i just stop and i'm not yeah that's what i did why eternal is a lot more complex than doom 2016 doom 2016 there's not a lot of barriers in your way other than just the combat challenge whereas doom eternal if you don't if you don't understand the systems of how to kind of chain the different abilities you have and things you can do together it's really difficult to get through some of the the more intense encounters especially towards the end of the game i guess it kind of depends on what difficulty you're playing on to i think ultra violence is kind of the sweet spot right i was just i just wasn't having that much fun through and through an eternal and i love the doom 2016 but eternal never did it for me i just i i was having fun um i remember though that when it was the the mini boss that you would fight i just really struggled with uh with that mini boss like you know what was the time the doom the the doom slayer dude like the doom hunter yeah yeah for whatever reason i just i just found it very difficult to uh is it the one the one that has the the shield and the shotgun and the dogs or the the guy oh yeah that's the that's the marauder and um i'm really struggling with mentioning that yeah i'm really struggling even the marauders um there there is a way that you can figure out how to make it so that you can kill them in like two or three volleys of their attack and it's all about kind of keeping them at the range where they're not close enough to use the shotgun but he's not far enough away to use his big projectile attack with the axe so i know it's kind of it's a weird enemy because it's it's one that you have to keep at mid-range but that's the kind of what i mean there's like a lot more that you need to be thinking about consciously and eternal whereas doom 2016 it's more like do i still have health do i still have armor do i still have ammo cool and that's yeah and i guess i guess i wouldn't say that any one of those is necessarily better or worse from a standpoint they're just different um and it might have been the attitude that i came into eternal with wasn't compatible i guess so yeah i'd be happy to give that game another shot well they follow up with saying rags is a good boy but he and the guest had a lot of bad takes based on faulty info i.e it encourages defensive gameplay which one eternal oh no i wouldn't say that at all you can't even reload unless you get get into the fray and use your chainsaw so or like you can't even reload your ammo i think it does a pretty good job of uh making you aggressive i think i don't remember anyone saying that defensive thing i could be wrong it's been a while so i don't i don't know i'm pretty sure i just listen to everybody but i don't even remember it myself that was a while ago at this point yeah yeah i wouldn't need to go back i'm i'm pretty i think it wasn't that one because i think i always meant to play the game i just never did yeah um also how do y'all feel about audio to high rags uh red ed redemption i assume that is yeah i only played the multiplayer briefly it seemed really neat still haven't played that one i haven't played it i really like red dead red redemption too yep very solid story very very interesting open world uh i think the combat could probably use yes uh readjustments yep i don't know why we're still tapping the x button to sprint but otherwise yeah like uh fun fact disney's own continuity quagon cannot manifest himself as a force ghost he didn't complete the training from the wills i've seen a lot of people saying this apparently it's like definitive cannon from both ip holders that quagon can only do a voice he can't do physical form they don't care anymore they definitely don't care and they don't care i just don't fucking care i would care about that if it matters i would care about that if they got everything else uh correct i'd be like oh no but at this point yeah getting something like that wrong really doesn't scratch the surface of my concerns compared to all the other shit you know um but i understand people get annoyed by it bringy and brady sitting in a tree e f a p p i n g nice plot mary kill talla fennec shand and aunt baru so immediately mary fennec out of the three she's like a relatively socially normal person who's also incredibly talented and like competent thanks to yeah her i i'd have to go back and look at some of the things she does but i think she's definitely the strongest of the three in terms of just sort of being a normal person that you could probably just talk to on the daily yeah that's for plotting or killing talla or aunt baru i have no idea i toss it up throw a dice i don't really care i don't even know what it means to plot somebody oh oh i have a couple ideas oh i guess she's too stupid and i just don't mean i'm pretty fucking dumb if we go from the yeah but i know she could like function in a like a household situation you know like she could yeah as long as no stormtroopers show up or yeah death we should be fine and plus if that happens you gotta be like listen no we're not you don't we don't give in or knock her out yeah you don't give into her stupid nonsense about we're gonna sith lord's coming no we're not gonna hide we're gonna fight him in our kitchen like you're crazy you're actually insane go sleep on the topic of transformers e fat movies when not sure exactly when but that's also a knock we'll do it'll happen guys you got like years of e fat left possibly yeah oh boy uh jurassic will dominion broke my heart i wasn't expecting it to be great but not so disappointing it was a funeral to my most beloved movie um they've all been there to be fair yeah fallen kingdom was one of the worst movies i've ever seen in my life it really was um also please update the e-faps playlist it stops in the 150 high rags oh my god hello it really has been way too long since i've dated that i'll figure out a good time to do it but it'll at this point it's gonna take me a while and that's okay okay um actual comment i've seen regarding the final duel it was so poetic when their lightsaber's touched it turned purple what the fuck does that even mean that's this that's the jedi spirit of mace wind this summoning mace window no that means something i guess uh steak bentley's video on mgs4 is a must watch long fair enough all right i think i might blame mgs4 on the the current state of of sony's outputs all all kind of being walk forward for 10 seconds and then watch a 30 minute cinematic these days i believe metal gear solid four was probably the one that did that and became a huge success first you know what i think i'll uh i think that i would actually put the honest a lot more naughty dog than uh last of us i was gonna say isn't the last of us just the the the fucker on the road i would say that um could you could say with unshotted unshotted definitely has like the mandatory walking sections but like it's still it's it's still at least when you look at like one and two it's still like doing the video game thing where it kind of tries to more clearly divide cut scenes and gameplay um i think yeah i think the last of us and the all the praise it got citizen can of video games was what kicked off and also i think it was a i've said this before but it was it was multiple factors it was like coming into that generation of consoles the xbox one had such a shit reputation and a lot of it was stemming from multiplayer and like microtransactions and stuff like that you know the the halo gets for so that's all they had and so like sony at that time was leaning away frankly from what i think they were doing well which was a lot of variety in their games to like very much all of their games started to fit into that mold greatness awaits and all that shit and they got a bunch of awards for it and then like they ended up in a place where all of their games now are the same genre not to say that they're bad but they're all the same broadly uh and if you don't like third person cinematic action adventure games what do you got ration and clank like that's it everything else can broadly be fit into that categorization and i think that's the last of us fault more so than uh i haven't played metal get sold for i hear that game has like nine hours of cutscenes but i don't think that game kicked it off i think it was the last of us i think it it sort of showed them that they could do that and have people be happy about it or i think that prior to that i think even even metal gear solid one two there was a lot of criticism about how much time you actually spend with cutscenes but i think by the time before came out just because it looks so amazing for the time like i don't know if you guys remember it was it was actually the same year modern warfare came out or modern warfare one and 2000 yeah so those those two games were like oh like video games are starting to look almost as good as movies like this is pretty nuts and metal gear solid fours it's fun like i mean they are i mean the even just watching the cutscenes there's some really amazing action scenes in it but it really is a i kind of noticed it when i was replaying through all of them with x-ray girl on some streams that we were doing together and metal gear solid four i'm just like okay so now we can talk to the chat because i'm playing the game and we'll wait for the next cutscene to like watch again because that was the whole thing we were trying to make her watch the metal gear games and see if she actually understands it and we noticed that we hardly had any time to actually play the game it was like okay cutscene again help me out here on this one because i haven't played those games from what i've heard even though metal gear games have like really long cutscenes generally when the game starts it's like gameplay there isn't much in terms of walking like slow walking mandatory sections a lot of the time like it no yeah you know that that doesn't happen hardly ever like there's you can maybe say chapter three of metal gear solid four is a bit of that where you're in you're in europe and not really doing the typical gameplay but for the most part the gameplay kicks off and it's actually really solid but metal gear solid four is it's very limited and there's really only two areas of the game where you can even do stealth like for the most part it's a shooter so it was a bit of an odd one i hear that that one was the odd one that uh kajima didn't even really feel like making it but everybody wanted it so he did i always say that um the best one is three that's what i hear a lot of the time that the best one is three yeah i would say that is safe to say at least from a narrative standpoint um gameplay probably a toss up between five and revengeance i guess but revengeance kind of is a platinum action game so it's not it's not really a stealth game in the same vein chat someone said metal gear solid four has awful pacing i can believe you it's one of the reasons why i didn't play on charted four again is because i like this is the risky run when you go very heavily into narrative and when you make what i would consider at this point to just be a flat out mistake which is we need to try and blend cinematics and gameplay so let's have slow walking talking i think that the best way to do it is to just clearly segment gameplay and narrative unless you can tell your story without ever taking away massive amounts of control from the player um just do what infamous does where like characters will talk to you on the phone but you have full control and you can still run around and jump around and fight people like they don't take away any of the mechanics from you to deliver story i think that when you do that it can be really cool the first time around but after that it's like damn man like i just want to play the video game you know well that that would be a difficult concept to wrap their head around for a last of a stand i was arguing with the other day who tried to make the case that ellie ellie in the cutscenes and ellie in the gameplay are two different people and i shouldn't hold them to the same moral standard what that's actually absurd that's one of the dumbest things i've heard yeah that's stupid actually um a point of um saying point of like that's what ludonarrative dissonance is where like it's it becomes great why would they say that the whole although the whole theme of that game is like violence begets violence how how is like any questions about morality or what if like what the okay all right whatever he was trying to make the argument that her goal was to confront abby not to kill abby so her letting abby live makes perfect sense and i was like well what about all the like the scores of people she killed to get to abby it's like well that's gameplay it's a different person i'm like what what the hell it's like we obviously like we gotta suspend our disbelief while playing video games otherwise all of us are mass murderers i was like yeah but first say the doom slayer and doom maternal him massacring demons makes perfect sense with his character you can't have it both ways what what is highlighted is what ludonarrative dissonance is this is why when you're making your game you don't do what tomb raider does we're like in a cutscene she's like oh my god i'm so sorry i killed you and then you just open up into a standard combat section you're only your only thing that they do to try and soften that is have laura say i'm sorry while you're in full control fighting these people it's really bad it's a disconnect like when you play mario you're not there thinking like man these fuck these goombas like man i wonder if they're like oppressed by the by the peach regime like you're not any sort of government things like ludonarrative dissonance is something that you need to try and think about when you're creating a video game i think that just um i think they're just saying we'll just ignore it like you know ideally you would want it so that your story doesn't contradict your gameplay narratively um and a lot of the way to a well just the way to avoid it is to not matthew matosa said it and i'll keep saying it because it's really true they made bioshock infinite into a first person shooter because that's what sells even though it contradicts the story that they're trying to tell in a lot of ways as opposed to odd world ages odyssey which he brings up in that video where it's like well the gameplay is like in tandem with the story it's either the story came after they decided what kind of game they wanted to make or they decided what kind of game they wanted to make to support the story they wanted to tell you can always not make a third person action adventure game if like your third person action adventure stuff is going to contradict um the story you're trying to tell i think um speaking of kajima death stranding does a really good job of um achieving i guess ludonarrative consonance that gameplay systems in that game actually reflect the and i'll i'll say the word themes of the story he's trying to tell in um some really really kind of interesting ways um i i could send you a link to the video i made on it where i explained it in a bit more depth because there's been quite a tangent for a super chat i apologize now that's tangents on e-fab or something i never happened before what crazy really honestly terrifying the things those kids would find weirdest from world war two would likely be wajtec or jack Churchill or o and j baguette uh some weird stuff happened in that war fair enough got some heartburn remedies uh gaviscon or whatever equivalent your area and then avoid eating the things that cause it i guess i think that is that's actually priority one i'm gonna get hot three times in my life so i don't i don't know but we want linds of anakin's past i.e the tuscan raiders while vader hunts a fake ben which is the trap orchestrated by reaver and a jedi that wants him dead okay that yeah that that sounds like it could work real well actually yeah um i probably put obi one on a bit more of a something else happens other than that but i assume you're saying that's just something that happens while he's doing that but i like the idea of vader hunting down jedi and he's this actually a trap set for him and he has to like you know struggle to escape it or to be victorious over it um even though he's kind of a bad guy you know like bad guy pov but we're still interested to see how he can overcome the challenge sort of thing far better than what we got lovely do you think efap would have been formed if most franchise movies produced from the last seven years were objectively good slash passable if given the choice would you oh wait so that's the first question um i don't know but maybe i don't even know we wouldn't have met yeah we'd be on completely different paths i likely wouldn't be talking to rags all ringing right now yeah that that's kind of the the big starter to this you know this element of the super chat is that we would not have met up tlg it was a good movie well i would have i already knew rags ringing i would have came out but but more would have been smaller i would have continued making yeah like if tlg was really good i just would have carried on making the videos i was making and i don't i have no idea where i would have ended up it might have been that a bad game comes out and i make a video on that but maybe that kicked off and i just focused on making game reviews um whatever else who knows uh but would efap exist certainly not in its current form as for at all like probably not i can't see why it would exist if you remove all of those other components yeah if given the choice would you give up all of efap for that outcome so when you say give up all of efap do you mean that me rags and free no longer run it as a show but everything else stays the same and then at the same time we get loads of all the franchises get good content released i think that's the idea because um we would just do a different show this is what i mean about like the question is a bit trying to figure out the spirit of the question give up all of efap i like does that mean including not meeting rags or fringy and coming friends yeah because this is the thing if it meant um what if you know if the wizard can send me back there and everything can be good would i take that and the that's a problem for me because i've very much enjoyed my time with meeting all the people i have um it's not an easy everything else that people have done i mean think about all the careers that tlj launched it really did i mean i don't want to you would imply that all of that is lost as well the entire discussion i mean yeah sure franchises die but the old stuff is still there and i mean okay sometimes you just got to take it sometimes you get you got to roll with what media and who knows well all of the other different effects that occurred because of these franchises is being terrible i would have some very fundamental almost philosophical concerns about the nature of the art history that's being created because if it's done by magic and not humans at that point because what i'm arguing here is like we've forced them to be good therefore that's not actually something that we've achieved and so that's kind of concerning it should be that we do everything we can yeah i would prefer to live in the real world quote-unquote and to push for better writing yeah that's another aspect of it too it's kind of like the whole god it's like how can you if you could do such and such to make such and such is like i don't i don't know if i just i don't have to have the right to kind of make those kinds of decisions to change things that other people have done and made and especially because these movies and everything they're it's not like it's one person it's huge teams that and these massive companies and that there's a it's a spider web of people doing this and that and this and that and there's so much networking that's involved in it and these are not little things and i don't i just don't think it's something that you should change even if the franchises are bad well who knows all the knock-on effects that that has and maybe it's not the worst thing in the world that we get bad franchises you know really when you get down to it we still get good stuff coming out and absolutely uh we'll still try and point that out and point out the bad stuff and just go on like is it um i think it's actually one of the we're missing the context at the beginning of it but the the new mini it'll come out for kenobi um i think i jokingly describe this as a a shit converter podcast in passing and it relates more so to the uh stuff like kenobi or boba fat where nobody really wants to watch those shows when they really hate them but what gets created as a result of this i feel like discussing them and reacting to them can turn them into something that's much more consumable um and so yeah you've got it's converted and then good stuff so in a way it's like it's not so bad um yeah there's lots to think about and it would be a struggle to answer that with ease because uh maybe someone could convince me if all franchises were really well written the world would genuinely be better off because everyone would be more inspired and more unified on a lot of different things i don't know if that would actually translate but maybe an argument could be made um thank you massives and high ranks hello i think the left for dead two would be better for if you have gaming than vermin tide probably yeah probably i think uh in fact i think definitely i think it definitely would be um mark has been a great host he should be brought on permanently and even take over morla it's good because you don't even have to rename the stream i i swear that one wasn't me wait how does that even but what if he wouldn't have to rename the stream i i don't know what's the stream called every frame of pause the title of this episode the thing is like oh i guess this is with mark the cyborg but in the oh i thought they were referring to e-fab and i was like well i guess you wouldn't have to rename it for whoever was to be taken over that's what i was looking at the title of the specific episode right now that you've made i guess thank you though that's a very nice thing to say yeah yeah definitely agree of course but you know if a competent writer and or director was selected would you be down to see a prequel series set in the late 80s universe of og Jurassic park possibly a limited series spin-off film iraq's hi what would you make it about like the the research being discovered or maybe or like as they're making the first dinosaurs and how how that goes but i think the the question is less about what's a a base concept that could be turned into something good and more is is there any chance that the people who are currently in charge of it are actually going to execute something well no matter what concept they're handed because the thing is when you say if a competent writer and director was selected would you and i'm like yes you know i'll watch whatever they come up with however um if we remove that part and just say like of all the different ideas in the world which one do you want to push to be made this one i'm not very tempted by i'm like uh Jurassic park's fine i don't need to do anything to it and just leave it i mean it's it's been one good movie and everything else leave it alone it's it's literally jaws it's the those series have the same trajectory near masterpiece first movie and a bunch of sequels that don't really matter yeah just stop touching it leave it alone it's on the table yeah i gather it's a bit of dust but that's okay just leave it alone right you know i see you can always wipe off the dust and watch it and enjoy it uh how long do we have to wait until a marvel slash star wars crossover reaver captain marvel scull at which joining up to fight darth mansplain hi rags hello i can see them doing a marvel star wars crossover at some point don't know honestly it's sad that i actually think they might consider that that was um parks and recreation the show that chris pratt was on i think i'm not all of that um other short chubby guy uh pat in oswald had this this big rant where he was talking about what's gonna happen now that sony oh sorry uh disney owns both star wars and marvel and he does kind of like a fan fiction that seemed like it was off the top of his head because it was one of those like you know scenes in like a show like the office where it's just the people improvising and they rant and um it actually seems like he did a pretty good job of explaining it oddly more so than i've seen a lot of scripts coming out of marvel or star wars these days i was gonna say whatever he came up with just think of it but way worse and they might do it uh kingdom come deliverance is the greatest medieval rpg i recommend it to all it is more incredible considering it was completely crowdfunded i go back and really look into playing i own it but i've not played it that was one of those games that i bought because of the backlash against it and i was like ah fuck these people let's go check it out see what made people's away i agree yeah um well that's it we caught up with the oh there's no south africa's long name town is we buffles mid teens things which means two buffalo shot dead with one bullet fountain oh one bullet fountain damn yeah oh jeez can you imagine killing two buffalos with one bullet i'm gonna see a hell of a bullet a good shot too was a weasel badge said video title a joke i'm afraid ign said obinon kenobi is amazing okay it wasn't us where i should have put it in quotes i don't know why i didn't i put the other one in quotes i think i ran out of space um so i had to sacrifice something uh also high rags hello all righty we did it and that is the end of the super jam oh wow before we wrap up um mark why don't you tell the kind people in chat who are you even all we're what are you up to what's what's happening these days hello everybody i'm mark the cyborg i make videos on youtube although i've been working on this metroid video since uh the last summer because uh i started a military course that distracted me for quite some time and then i finished it and elden ring came out and now i've got i've got a 20 thousand word script for elden ring as well as a half edited metroid video which i'm hoping to have both of done by the fnt vegas meetup in in august which is uh august 17th if anyone's going to be in vegas and um yeah and i'm married to x-ray girl who's the friday night tights producer and um i uh last week actually disbrew her and i an epic mic from geeks and gamers all did a reaction stream for serenity the the movie of firefly and uh she is on her x-ray girl channel is doing Raiders of the Lost Ark which she's never seen before on monday wow j oh j jay jay makes x-ray girl look like a film historian in comparison wait do you mean that backward door from woods because i thought you were gonna try and say that jay is wait who are you saying a scene more because i'm curious he makes jay look like a movie historian he's seen more films than x-ray girl how are you sure about that i could we have tales where you guys have been raking out of i'm married x-ray girl trust me like there's times where i'll be like hey well i married jay yeah jay's our manager where is i even married i'll be like hey just like in diehard she'll be like what's diehard i'll be like not even i haven't seen it you said what's diehard just now okay i'll be fine i don't even know that i believe that happened just like wow okay muller next next time she's producing a real bbc episode or if you're on a diehard yeah i mean no just try picking the the most of course she's seen this movie and say hey uh x-ray girl i had a curiosity have you seen this i guarantee you she's saying no i wonder what the most commonly seen movie is it's um it's kind of a blessing in disguise to have someone you care about a lot not have seen loads of great stuff yeah because uh i get excuse i'm gonna watch rare is the last dark right after this actually yeah it's um so yeah there's a link to a mark cyborg's channel you um you end up popping up on lots of different streams here in there too do you not yeah i'm i'm in in the groups of people or a dream slut indeed um well yeah you know it's always always good to have you we had you on for the elden ring discussion correct yes and uh actually i even referenced that efap stream in my script in a couple places mostly because i gotta thank theo for uh really challenging me on a few points that made me kind of think and dig a little bit harder on but uh yeah it's the longest script i've ever written and um i don't want to finish the video until it's it's good and ready though because i'll have you know though it was said that we must have been afraid of theo on that stream was no one could challenge him well i think that it was the tricky thing about it is while i didn't necessarily agree with his takes he was also not wrong so i'm like that bothers me as much as it bothers you but it that is an issue you're correct some he's pretty obsessed with france off his work i've always enjoyed listening to his takes on i mean he's like he's like a efap's version of matheumatosis the closest we'll get we got him there a little pocket matheumatosis and um yeah uh that'll that'll be good shit when it comes out so like i said link in description metal what are you up to i'm doing all kinds of things why okay i'm not doing anything ruther back to you no uh as i already mentioned earlier metals forge weekly thing i'll do now either alone or with guests uh the last two were with uh one was with ass heels was a baby face uh we talked about dread the new one 2012 there was a new one place oh fucking old it is already 10 years old and went through that it's basically just if it's a guest the guest says metal watch this movie and then we'll talk about it and it's like okay like okay well so far every time i told people hey you can make me watch something good or something bad always a good movie so far no one has taken anything bad yet but i think jay might pick that at some point they're gonna make you suffer and the one last week was with a meme repository uh we basically have a dc animated arc uh right now and we watched just a sleek crisis on two earths last week and talked about that there was the longest metals forge to date with four hours and 15 minutes it was a long forge for the ages if you will uh so yeah and there's going to be a new one tomorrow uh afternoon night i'll see and we're talking about a revenge of the warrior or warrior king or whatever name it has in your country because apparently it's like seven different names um so that should be fun that movie was not as good as i remembered it so that's probably going to be fun to talk about uh specifically in the terms of it being cut to hell by the Weinstein company for western markets and i don't know what the fuck they did but i think they kind of destroyed the movie and it's pacing uh so yeah that's probably going to be a topic at hand and other than that i'm i'm doing strumbles on the twedge i'm currently going just just playing some some zado games legend of zelda and i'm currently playing majora's mask for the very first time uh playing through that and that has been a really good time i'm actually surprised i never played it before because i am i think it's pretty darn good so far i'm enjoying every minute of it well sweet so there you go me i myself um we're going to the konobi mini to be out tomorrow hopefully other than that we're going on a bigger video and i'm still sorting out iRL stuff that's making me a little slower than usual but that's about it for me rags and fringy what do you guys go going on if anything uh i'm supposed to say miss normal i've just been busy the last couple weeks doing a few things but video should be done pretty soon and i hope to i hope to have the final konobi video out oh i don't know what time is um yeah i don't know uh hopefully monday i think so that'll be something to see it'll be amazing that'll be magical hmm um i'm just helping with uh i'll be one but that's nearly done so then after that it'll just be back full steam ahead on the old projects next video didn't yeah whatnot that's it all righty um let me read these last three that came in uh be warned the story in world for kcd has quite a bit of tizm kcd kingdom come out of deliverance yeah uh fair enough um goodbye a la akba and for real though drunk stream when um playing small video games is gonna be back on the menu boys soon enough the wheels will be spinning back up soon enough with with a lot of different things i didn't show you that efab tv variant for no reason but um also halloween's on the way it's getting there right fighting times got a whole arc ready for you guys but yeah anything else any of you want to say before we sign off oh yeah uh jay and me are watching through tng episode by episode that releases every week over on jay's second channel i think it is it's been fun it's been fun stuff that's uh empress of milk do you guys want to go check that out that's the one yes um it's june halloween's on the way it's like yes halloween is always on the way um but yeah thank you all so much for joining us thank you for the very kind donations and tune in tomorrow for efab mini finale for kenobi i'm sure you'll have some rather fun times with what you would have heard our opinions are on a lot of this episode from today oh yeah that'll be a ride yeah um we'll be back next week but it will likely not be live um it'll be the copyright meme fap then in the weeks following that they will likely probably all be life until we get the anniversaries which we are inching toward every day thank you all so much and good night yeah good night everybody thanks for showing up we'll see you later