 Okay, I think Welcome everyone to our Soka Creek Water District meeting for October 15th roll call shows all of the directors present We have no public hearings In honor of idea, I'd like to move item 6.2 up to the very front You guys want to start anything? Yeah, it's okay. I think Melanie and I would like to say a few words Maybe I'll start it off. So By day Campbell was a colleague of all of us staff and to the board, you know a valuable staff member and recently with the boating incident with a conception she she passed away and You know, we've been kind of mourning and and and trying now to turn it into a celebration of her life Vi was the only by day he Was the last person to make the hire on my call Actually, the general manager the time said interview this guy and if he doesn't pass muster with you We won't hire him if he does we will that's the story. I was told and she was the last one I looked into her eyes and I and I remember sitting on the opposite side going if this is what this place is like I definitely want to work here But more importantly, she was the only person in our organization to actually work for three different departments And I bring that up because the engineering Conservation special projects and I would even say and in the admin department We adopted her because I needed her I am and I needed her and I would say Christine you probably agree that O&M probably felt like she was part of your department and the reason why is she had this extraordinary range of talents and when you think about what most people know her for is Her outreach, you know all the education and everything. I can't tell you how many times We did outreach events together and I was just sharing Last week the last one we did was down at KSC radio and they had a band playing And I wanted to dance with her but I I didn't have the gumption just not because of vibe But just because it didn't seem right and I wish I'd done that but anyway, she worked for three departments and in conservation She was the outreach princess queen of that and extraordinary top people from K Since they were at kindergarten that can vote now. I always like to say that an Engineering think about the range. She did she started the GIS or helped with that Maybe Melanie will touch on that but she was she had that technical expertise. So this breath of I don't think Harley anybody in the organization has that Range of talent and then under with with special projects and communications taking it to that whole level so You know to have an employee that is that talented that flexible That caring and never did I ever ever hear her once say oh, I don't want to do that I don't want to go work in that department or do this. She was always like yeah, I'm up for that and What I realized was and when I was managing the conservation department Shelly and I we needed help Introducing new technologies, you know these laptops that people are going out in the field work with that They used to only like read a meter by hand and now they were introduced to all this it was scary It's scary for a lot of people. I mean I still relied on her for that up till you know Recently and but she had a knack for going around to each person. She was our change agent. That's what she was She would introduce Technology in a way that you did not feel threatened. You weren't scared to ask a question like you know that might be so simple But she had that endearing way, which I don't need to go on everybody knows she made you feel so comfortable And she did that with everybody so she was the person if we were introducing something she Shared that she helped the people got up to speed. I don't know how many times I said hey Bye help. Can you help me with this computer issue? And she just walk over and do that so However immensely and I'll leave it with that and let you say a few words. Thank you for letting me ramble on I just wanted to first recognize that we do have some Special friends and family members of I so if you guys could just raise your hand and let the board know that you're here Thank you so much for for coming today We you know, it's tradition of the board to do past resolutions in honor of our employees in terms of their years of service or in some instances and fortunately for this one, it's in memory of somebody and As Ron mentioned by was very special to all of us for me, especially I hired by as an intern when she was in college Her application came through I was in the engineering department and she had a keen interest in learning about computer systems in GIS and you know, she was a Stonch environmentalist as she always was to every day that she came into work And it's been a real pleasure for me to see her grow. I've never felt that I was really a mentor but to her I felt that we Both supported each other and she was not only a colleague, but also a friend and I feel that over the last month We at the district have been in a fog The first day it came out. We had a board meeting. We I think we all pushed through And and that probably was the hardest board meeting of my life And and then the next meeting, you know, it was just kind of still Acting like like we could get through it and I think in this last couple weeks Like Ron says we've really been able to embrace Her and what she meant to us and what she meant to the community and I'm really excited to be able to have President LeHue read this resolution That we've prepared and I'm glad that you guys are here to hear it And please share it with Sarma and the children and her father James And then we have a slideshow and a little short video that we wanted to show by and just Before I read the resolution my own personal experience with Vi you know coming to my class year after year and and bright kind and Enthusiastic and fun-loving and so man if we could all do that The world would be a good place Whereas by day he Campbell at Williams first joined the so-called Creek Water District family in 1999 Spending two summers as an intern engineering assistant while attending Scripps College and earning a bachelor's degree with a double major in environmental studies in French And whereas I was hired as a permanent employee of the district in 2001 Serving as communications GIS program assistant where she was instrumental in launching the district's GIS platform and becoming the office expert in many of its technology tools and Whereas I was an isn't as an ardent environmentalist led the district's green team helping guide its offices Towards a higher level of sustainability and she was instrumental in the district becoming a certified green business And whereas Vi became the district's communication specialist in 2017 a position where she enthusiastically shared her passion for water and the environment and Whereas Vi was essential to giving the district a new higher level of visibility throughout the community Becoming well-known at local county and statewide educational and special events around water issues and Whereas Vi loved working with teachers and students and eagerly provided fun Interactive presentations in local classrooms when she would wear a tiara and call herself the water princess to the absolute delight of the kids And whereas Vi was an exceptional communicator and educator on water conservation and recycling and her commitment to the district mission along with her Carefree personality often had her volunteering to wear a water droplet costume at local events Including the Santa Cruz County Fair Earth Day in the park and at the water harvest festival where her vitality and extraordinary People skills engaged kids and adults alike Whereas during the last two years Vi maintained a frequent presence in the community with the district's pure water so-called educational trailer From which she would enthusiastically and patiently describe the project's benefits and features in her own inimitable way that engaged and charmed both children and adults and Whereas Vi was a past president of the Monterey Bay Water Works Association was a project water education for teachers facilitator and was part of the California Water Education Committee and received the 2008 Water Awareness Wizard Award and Whereas tragically Vi's life was lost aboard the Diving Boat Conception on Labor Day off the Channel Islands and where it was Vi's sparkling energy and her boundless exuberance and the immense joy she brought to everyone she met are deeply missed and will not be forgotten And whereas those at the district who knew Vi will treasure their memories of her easy-going beautiful kind soul and her positive impact on the district and the community she serves and Whereas Vi's remarkable legacy at the SoCal Creek Water District and the legacy of her life with her family and friends Will continue to inspire and motivate those who knew her and who were touched by her kind and giving spirit Now therefore be it resolved that the board of Directors of SoCal Creek Water District does hereby honor and commemorate the life and work of by the Hicamble in Memoriam and be it further resolved that we join by his family and friends in sorrow at this heartbreaking loss While taking solace in our remembrances of Vi as a vital dynamic devoted and beloved member of the district family So we need to vote. I will make the motion All in favor I Okay, so past and adopted today and then and then you have some Slides We do have one other Video that we found and we wanted to play tonight For many of you who worked with Vi Whenever she went out to a school or an event she always brought this groundwater model and she was Pretty much the only person here. Maybe Tom knows now how to use it and maybe Jen and a few others But it was one of the things that I felt she really connected with People whether they were children or adults and really helped them understand How water is here in our area and this is Vi doing a demonstration of the groundwater model I'm sorry that one didn't work But it is on our Facebook page, so I encourage you guys to go and watch it there She always had such enthusiasm for the groundwater model I'm in closing of this item Tom. Thank you. I just wanted to reiterate And just express how much support that the community has provided to the family as well as to The district family at work There is a GoFundMe page that has been set up for the family for Any donations that people have asked us, you know, how can they contribute that GoFundMe page? I believe is still active. So anybody who is not watching this on TV, please go and find that it's under my day He Campbell Williams Also wanted to just note that The Aptos times which has been a local paper here for us ran a beautiful front page cover spread on Vi It's a beautiful story And then I did want to just close with we do know of two of the organizations that Vi has been really active with The Monterey Bay Water Works Association, which she is a past president of is Setting up a scholarship fund as well as the water reuse, California The details on those are still being ironed out But I believe one of them is going to be trying to work with Scripps College to get that scholarship through the school And then lastly, I just wanted to Highlight that one of Vi's events that she was instrumental in putting on was the water harvest festival And that is coming up on October 20th this Sunday from 11 a.m. To 3 p.m. We are putting it on in honor of Vi and so we encourage people who want to come and Feel her spirit to go to the event We've got a lot of activities We had many people want to sponsor it to help ensure that there are a lot of children activities because that was what Vi was Really wanting to have was a lot of educational booth for children And the performers that she worked with through the school assemblies are all donating their time To do performances throughout so I think it's going to be a really great event We're also working with the county parks department and taking donations because we will be collecting money to plant a tree in her memory Thank you all thank you for the family for coming tonight and giving us five for those years And Becca made and I don't maybe you helped make there's Yes to live like like by ready which I really loved because it'll help remind me to to be kind and be enthusiastic and Maintain that attitude so Thank you and For members of the family you do not have to feel like you have to stay through the rest of the meeting It's not rude to leave. It's okay Yeah Thank you guys what a gift so We will move on to the consent agenda Is there anything anyone would like? Remove from the consent agenda on the board Now I won't be able to vote on the items. Yes, I'd like to remove the like to remove the special excuse me the 3.4 the production reports production reports, okay, I find those and then 3.11 Contract Okay for legal services and since I wasn't at the September 17th meeting I should probably pull that so that we can vote and I can abstain appropriately From that one 3.1. Yeah Okay Anyone else and any members of the public that need anything removed from consent Okay, sounds good. So items 3.1 3.4 and 3.11 will not be on Consent I Move I Move the rest of the items all second Moved and seconded all in favor. I I opposed All right, I didn't have any problem with the minutes but I just If you guys want to I move we adopt the minutes Moved and seconded all in favor And I abstain Item 3.4 production reports Yeah, I find these very interesting Because it's a summary of how water is being used in our district so On page 40 of 148 It's showing basically that the water use dropped From 2013 to 2014 and then Has stayed fairly Similar in the in the summer months and has ever even decreased during the winter months and The other piece of information That's on three that's on 41 and 42 Then 43 Ron did you were you the one that came up with this index? I think you might have been I forget it's been a while I know it's been refined over the years Christine's probably perfect Yeah, but I find it really interesting because there's a weather index. I thought you did No, I didn't not the details. I wanted something, but I think it was me actually. Oh, okay It was a bruise. Well, thank you for coming up with it because what it shows is Back when we started this in 05. They're two different Curves and the weather index Indicates summertime and wintertime and but it's more exact than that it has Rainfall and evapotranspiration And then the the production is the index is the production and they're both normalized to one and what it shows is that Just how the district has decreased its water use even in times when the when when there's When it when it's hot and there's a lot of evapotranspiration and Again, it shows that since 2014 it's been very similar And I I think it's a testament to our customers who got the message during the drought There may be some rebound effects that come in the future, but At least as of now people are Treating water as a precious resource So I thank you for including these in the in the minutes Any other comments on production? Hey, thanks for bringing that up I'll know just I think it's important because what I watch out for is how that rebounding or if rebounding is occurred if you go up this way You do see what you're seeing here go to the total is Each month for each year and if we go out to September We can see that's the last time it's reported there's years so you can see from the low a slight modest gradual trend back upwards It's not perfect, but you see a slow slow take and that's we want to watch that for sure Something we keep on but drastically the summer outdoor usage our customers have been rock stars and Have really curtailed that and spin A real gift for for Vinnie seawater intrusion Yep All right, so we'll go to item 3.11 Bruce You pulled that Oh three point four. Yes. Sorry. I thought you were for the next one. Oh, no, I do have something to say about this too do your The district has had several very large leaks and and ruptures in their pipeline Do you separate that loss from this production amount? It seems like the volume of Reuptured pipe could be substantial and could really affect what you see here How is how is that reflected in your production? Is it separated out or what do you do? Okay? Thank you Thank you. That's a reasonable question. We can pray answer that Colonel Terry max. Well, I tried to get your attention regarding 3.2 In which you're indicating environmental science associates that when we already had voted on no, no, no I you may have but I tried to get your attention to comment on it Well, it has to be pulled from consent to order to have a comment period Well, would you I asked for people to pull from consent? I'd get your attention, but at any rate ever so briefly as a customer and an impacted resident of this county On behalf of everybody who's paying to this water district. I find the $313,000 to environmental science associates with no explanation in your public information available at all to justify it What did they do in support of pure water? Soquel that justifies another three hundred and twelve thousand dollars going to them I'd like to come by your office and see on it on which this is based And why did you so cavalier fashion pass it without asking to have the details either here or yourselves? And I ask each board member have you actually looked to see what would justify this $300,000 expenditure apparently you haven't I find that negligent Responsible it's interesting that you would say apparently we haven't just because we didn't Answer you but that's okay. No, I yes, we all read it and we know that it's for Environmental impact statement, but you know, we're not going to get into that. You always assume the worst mr. Maxwell Anyway, I would just like to point out that this is an item that had a detailed Report on it earlier. Yeah, it was approved by the board, right? So there's details if you go back into the previous minutes This is this is not just something that was slipped in this was yeah scrutinized by the board and the public had opportunity to talk about it to comment on it at that time And this is just a bookkeeping. Yeah, there's a multi-stage process within the organization to review anything like this Christine you want just to dress up leakage as far as yeah production reports that those monthly reports only include production from our sources They don't include consumption or any other type of water use or loss water loss is Ported annually in our water audit, which is which is at the end of this agenda. Okay, right, right? So basically it's inherent in what's reported because Production is what comes out of the wells Yeah, and they also includes any imports or exports in those numbers, too Okay, and then just for to put things in perspective We've had some large leaks, but is there anything that's even approached an acre foot? Um Well some large ones not recently can be 300,000 gallons Okay, so these numbers are much larger than than that hundreds of times 1000 For the year at least 3,000 times One-tenth of a percent. Okay. Thank you. All right, so we'll move on to 3.11 contract amendment for Legal services and you had asked that be pulled. I I did I just wanted Ron to comment We had a yeah, there's a table mentioned in the attachment to this document if and If the board with it was not included in the packet We have it here if you'd like to see it we can just pull it up You'd like to see the table what the table is while the total cost is Listed in here for the legal services This is a breakdown of the total cost so Okay, let's switch over here So there is the total cost is 193 the exhibit in the memo the attachment to the memo said exhibit a contains a breakdown of the cost This is the breakdown of the cost So if you're interested in this level of Detail, we certainly a staff want to see this When we create a relationship with any consultant so we can help you know manage that work and relationship And so it's an hourly rate each of these tasks to exceed take time. Yeah And the end Thank you any other questions from board members any members of the public on this one Yes, certainly That breakdown is not contained in what you released to the public tonight What he just said on your website. Is that correct? It is there now It's presented to the public and the board at the same time in real time right now So we have it is not in this handout exactly what mr. Duncan just said All right, could you could I obtain a copy? tonight there It'll be a copy you're providing is there display Why is it not here? No, go ahead. We're seeing it the same time you are the actual table So we don't have a paper copy. You don't have a paper copy. We all have this right now Well, I can't even read that one to you can surely get one later. It's fine Okay, well, I will be asking for one later I would ask you suspend approval of those until you give the public a chance to be informed of this Myself and others who are concerned to comment on it And and by the way the fact that you would litigate against miss Steinbrenner is Just preposterous waste of your resources You could have simply complied with the California Environmental Quality Act Evaluated all the alternatives that are hundred million dollars cheaper than pure water soquel and you would have complied with the law As well as you met other environmental quality obligations that you're ignoring and you're neglecting and your lawyer should have advised you to do that Not waste half a million dollars apparently on legal fees And by the way, mr. Bosso should be perfectly capable of defending you against miss Steinbrenner a nice lady and a non lawyer layperson Instead, this is preposterous waste. It's another example of the proflicacy I'm sorry of the soquel creek water district directors and some of its management and the hundred ninety three dollars Thousand dollars absolutely. I as an impacted rate payer I want to see how she justifies it and I want to see why mr. Bosso couldn't have done that work far cheaper at the Retainer fees you're paying him as well Anyone else? Thank you. My name is Becky Steinbrenner. I am the petitioner acting improper for the public benefit I'm not the only one that's complaining. I Am really sorry That your rate payers are being charged this money if that's that's not what I want to do. I want the district to Follow the the rules to follow sequel law and there are many instances. I allege that you have not If the district were to simply go back and address those issues I would stop But you continue to press forward with this legal action, and I like mr. Maxwell think that you should postpone Approving this because you have not presented the full accounting of to justify $193,000 until tonight and that is not proper public notice on such a large ticket item You're also in the warrants paying The best best and Krueger just in one month thirty three thousand dollars What? Now I see that in the thing here on that I've seen for the first time tonight best best and Krueger is anticipating $40,000 to fight my motion to amend the petition Just to change the petition $40,000 Not even included in what I see up there is my motion to change venue So what I want to say is I don't understand why you continue to Press forward with these very expensive legal fees paying best best and Krueger's attorney to fly up every single time from Riverside to attend a court The last two times in court their counsel virtually said nothing it was mr. Basso that conducted the opposition So I really want you to first of all postpone taking this action and so that you and your ratepayers and the general public can examine these rates and Bring it back to next time And I want you to think about what you're really doing here. I Don't enjoy this It's hard on my health. It's hard on my family But I have to because I care about the community and there are a lot of people that are thanking me for it So please just sit down think about it and go back and look at the allegations and Address them and let's not do any more legal expense. Thank you. I move we accept this I'll second all in favor just second. I have a question For mr. Basso sure mr. Basso first Are we legally required To postpone this because it wasn't part of the package No I'm sorry. Excuse me Journal Maxwell is not me the answer is no we've reviewed that and secondly this whole argument seems to be That somebody brings a lawsuit you're supposed to not defend against it if you because they don't think you should and the fact the matter is You have an obligation. I Have an obligation to represent the district in the areas that where we think were correct So right and then Ron. What's the effective of if this were delayed a month That the what was delayed that well if we brought it back with with the table Is it in terms of the billing etc? Are they at the end of their money? We are we are close to the end that was appropriated and allocated and approved by the board I do believe as mr. Basso has stated that the Legal requirement for us in terms of this table in or not included into this item Is that the board is legally required to have the agenda posted not necessarily the packet The information that is contained within the item does state that the amount for The request for consideration of the board to approve is the amount and that is still the amount. That's not a changed amount Yes, because oh, sorry and because this is a not to exceed Professional services it is billed by by the hour. It's not You know, we would have to come back again if we needed to go over So it is important to approve it. I think more important is the The reason for coming back for additional funding and I think the legal team laid it out here and they're writing their the Adjunct to the staff memo and that second paragraph really sums it up where it says they were Unanticipated for attempts by the litigant to Come into court and do tea it was called TROs temporary strain or is that we're all failed by I think three different judges denied and then Also, one of them or two of them impose sanctions for her behavior. So this kind of Activity is not normally anticipated But we have to do what we think is in the best interest of our customers our community environment and the long-term customers and so and We're gonna let the court decide. Yes, you know, I'm sorry your time is over. No No, you are if we will send you out of the meeting if you don't sit down and act properly. Thank you You know, we have differences of opinion, but that doesn't mean you can interrupt the meeting So moved and seconded all in favor Post I'm I'm gonna vote for it But I do believe the public has the right to comment on this So I asked that the next meeting that this table be included in the packet so the public can comment at that time Sure, we can do that But other other board members might not agree with me. No, that's fine. It's fine People can come and talk open session about anything. Yep. Yeah, this information. It'll be in the next packet and There'll be an opportunity to comment And I do I agree with you Tom that this is in the best interest of the district Now, I just want to say that, you know, there was some questions asked about why we're doing any of this And it's because we have no alternative The city has said all along. They don't have enough water to serve their customers and our customers to make up the shortfall So and they've also said that if they did have enough water to give it to solve our problems It would cost more than what we're doing here Bottom line. Okay, so we are now at the time where it is oral and written communications. So this is where Anyone that wishes to address the board on items not on tonight's agenda may may speak Maxwell again on the item of G. We have to do this frankly gentlemen and ladies the water resources here and the alternatives to pure water so Cal that would have Saved this massive expenditure and not necessitated Miss Steinbrunner's Horate courageous and in the public interest efforts to stop you from failing to comply with the environmental quality acts of the state of California that were intended to print and are intended to protect all of us including future residents of this district and Certainly, it's children But you neglected to do that you neglected to comply with the law you're trying to railroad this through and by the way in terms of all we do have alternatives and the alternative is to Consolidate this water district with the city of Santa Cruz and others into a regional water resources, which should have been done 25 years ago Extraordinary saving and wasted duplicate give unnecessary overhead that pays you all nice fees That pays your inflated management salaries to your senior management and by the way You and your senior management could all be done away with I applaud the efforts of the work a day Employees of the water district. I want to compliment them highly. I want to prank Compliment the late lady as well. I didn't always agree with her, but she really did her job very politely and very well And I extend condolence to her family But coming back to where we are now dealing with the realities of this water district and The failure for 25 years for you to consider consolidation the failure for the state to come over and take it all over Then the water that miss Menard wants to deny sharing Could be shared by the way and would in a regional capacity of arrangement. It would be far more efficient It would save 70% I calculated the overhead this district the city and the polyglot little water districts here So there's the solution consolidate do away with you do away with your management and do it serve the public interest Is there anyone else that wishes to address board on an item not on tonight's agenda? Scott water transfers are on tonight's agenda if you're going to be talking about that you should wait until that item is presented This is for items not on the agenda Hello, my name is leticia Miller. I'm a customer of Soquel Creek I'm here for myself and five other families who could not be here. We didn't know it was going to be recorded to seven I'm just kind of appalled. I think it would be handed the structure of this new thing You have going this 1901 The cost of this has been astronomical You have them Helms that have two people five people are under the same structure that cannot be My water bill and the others have gone from eighty four dollars to over two hundred and fifty dollars And that has been every month and then I understand you're gonna go another nine percent raise next year This is unheard of There are other ways to get water my husband was superintendent of production for the Santa Cruz City Water Department for 34 years There were other ways they could have done it also and when he's passed away And I wish he was here because he would tell you what the de-salt plant was going to cost And we'll tell you right now what this is going to cost It's not only building it, but it's making it work Maintaining it. It's going to cost millions. We know that you know that there has to be other ways This has got to be some kind of other structure These families cannot afford to pay twenty nine dollars You've taken away units from us on the structure And I think there's a gentleman here that has put this out for you to realize what you've done You've taken my units we can use and now you've charged us more 2995 for each unit that is ridiculous for a family of five They can't afford it seniors can't afford it Reconsider this and I think the money you're paying attorneys like central fire had to realize you are wasting our tax dollars You're wasting tax dollars I cannot believe you're going after a person that lives in Santa Cruz County and using our customer Money to fight her in court. You do have an attorney use him use him. Thank you I just want to clarify that we're not bringing any legal action on anyone. We're just defending one We have brought any legal actions from a non-customer Directors I'm Ramona Andre a rate payer on a fixed income and Aptos That's right. I Would like you to get water from the Santa Cruz water district. It seems like you're being rigid about this issue And not willing to look into it I don't like the pure water soquel plan for rate increases and the recycled sewage water This present plan causes punitive rate Increases that could force us out of our property the so-called purification that isn't may contribute to health problems you directors their responsibility for these decisions and the future will tell and Maybe sooner than the future I just want to say there's an item on water transfers it At the end. I don't think you're listening But yeah, there's a lot There's an item on water transfers at the end of the meeting and you can see how much we're pursuing water transfers And you can see how cooperative Santa Cruz is Go ahead sir Yeah, I'm a rate payer from Aptos And in this last couple of months our bill went from 80 something dollars to a hundred and twenty two and this last bill came in at $350 We were well we were told that there's a leak I have not been able to find a significant leak Apparently the toilet might have been leaking a little bit, but but it's not even audible So I'm just wondering how if nothing else has changed how my bill went from 122 to 350 dollars I I do have three kids. So there's five of us in the house I Can't continue to afford that I can't be surprised by things like that just because my toilet leaks a little bit Again, it's not audible I I did I replaced some things once I saw the bill once somebody came to the door and told us that something was leaking But there's no significant leak. We don't have a pool. We don't So I just if the structure of what you're doing is Going to create situations like that where it's going to affect our budget in that manner Then there's got to be a better solution I just don't know how I mean I certainly couldn't continue to do that month after month And and within our budget. So you do need to figure out something else that that $29 per unit when you lowered the The original tier one You know, I mean that that certainly had an effect But you need to do something about this because this is not sustainable and my in-laws live right across the street from me They were told they had a leak their bill went to 500 dollars 500 They're fixed income. They can't afford that So somebody said there was a leak there must be Two people have come by to check. They can't find one so How does that happen? How is their bills suddenly 500 dollars? You have to figure this out because that's not sustainable. So Sustainable policy, please understood. Thank you Yeah, I was gonna say the there is a leak policy if you If you experience a bill like that, you should contact the so-called water district right away to work on that But I had I personally have had the same experience and it was a quiet leaking toilet And I had to finally after fiddling with it replacing endless parts the toilet was no good Replace the toilet the very next month. I had got You know praise for the water district for a wise water use. It really is important to if you have an old toilet especially to Replace it it might need Yeah, that was that was me and this went from 30 to 300 at one point, you know that in a quiet little toilet It was just funny and all the time. I Just also want to want to say that I'm open to any and all solutions so if you have some ideas on how to restructure the rates next time I'm open to that and Yeah, another program that we are doing is AMI automated meter infrastructure where people on their smartphones will get alerts When the league is detected and so there won't be that lag They'll get detected on a daily basis daily basis You won't have to wait for a month to get it fixed you can fix it that same day I mean, I also wanted to mention that, you know I'm not particularly happy with the rates either and I'd like to see us Come up with a better solution we we had a really long discussion last time before the rates with a citizen committee of 11 people that committed a lot of time to trying to come up with an alternative and just you know The alternative that was chosen does drastically You know go from tier one to tier two it goes up much higher than Then I I would like, you know for it to happen in the long run and I think the one of the alternatives for It's just it's for if you're only two people in a house it works. Okay, but if you've got a bigger family It's really makes it difficult So we did talk about water budgets as part of the rate where you know would be you'd have rates based on the number Of people in the house which would at least balance that out So I'm open to looking at other alternatives as well I'm Richard Andre an unhappy rate payer from aptus I'm glad to hear two of the directors say that they're open to other ideas and solutions Because I think they're needed and I don't you need another committee, but you've had some good ideas here tonight I think you need to listen to them So what do you call it lying obfuscating or just not having the imagination? I don't know, but it makes people angry especially if you're taking more and more money from them New rates with a tier of twenty nine dollars and nineteen cents are not even near on nine percent as you advertised increase We were told the new rate would increase our bills by nine percent or was that five percent? It's very confusing No Obfuscation a lie with less than five thousand gallons used the increase in the bill Is fifty two percent that's a long ways from nine percent Well why this to foot an enormous bill for a water purification project that may not be so pure It's still sewage Oh, it won't cause any health problems because it didn't in Orange County. Well, are we so sure? I'm not the rate increase is not necessary if you transfer water from Santa Cruz We've heard you can't that Rosemary Menard says you can't well. We don't believe that either There must be a way and it was an idea on that tonight consolidation Reject the sewage in favor of rainwater from Locke Lohman and the San Lorenzo River Try harder to arrange for that rainwater. It is better to drink and comes much cheaper. I Realized a lot of cost to it, but much cheaper than the sewer water purification plant So it gives our preference rainwater with lower rates try very hard I'm just gonna I'm just gonna make a suggestion that folks, you know get information not just from one source Who you're hearing it from That you do your research and and look at the studies that have been done on the quality of the water that comes out of the purification plants You know just actual scientific data. Okay, that's all I'm asking and in particular There's an example of that this consolidation notion if we are to consolidate with some other water district and that other water district Had water rights to some water. They could not share it with us So the water right only applies to a certain area So the city's water right can only be used in the city and the live oak because the water right when it was applied for applied to that area and if you can't change it unless you go back to the state and Completely redo your water right which could be done, but if you They said you know, that's that's irrespectful and what you let's keep them meeting Which is what the city is attempting to do right now They've gone back to the state board to apply for changes But as an example they applied for some changes 12 years ago, and they're still waiting on those So it doesn't happen quickly doesn't happen easily It's possible, but you know, we can't sit here and wait and wait and wait. We need water now So, okay, let's not let's let people that come to the microphone speak period Thank you Becky Steinbruner. I just want to say that in 2015 your board was presented legal information by County Water Director John Ricker that you could apply for urgent Temporary water rights Independent of the city and you didn't do it So what I would like to speak about is the water rates. I'm not a rate payer You're right, but many of my neighbors are and I care about them and so in On November 6th of 2018 your board already decided You were going to restructure the rates to support pure water. So Cal you didn't come out and say it blatantly Because you couldn't because legally you couldn't because you hadn't approved the project yet. You hadn't approved the EIR But that's what was happening and on when you had your February 19th public hearing for your rate payers That's what your raft Alice consultants said. It was to support pure water. So Cal and you can tell that This is from your memo from November 6th scenario one includes a supplemental supply project with 45 million in Funding assistance from grants and the issuance of 52 million dollars in debt That adds up to the pure water. So Cal construction project amount doesn't it Option two includes a supplemental supply project with no grant funding and the issuance of 95 million dollar debt There you go, and that's what you chose to do to increase your customer's rates Assuming no grants to pay for pure water. So Cal now you were not honest in that information when you put it out to your rate Payers either about the impending rate increase. You didn't tell them what it was for you never told them what it was for You never showed the calculations that justified claiming Rate increases were anticipated to be five dollars or less per month For 70 72% of the customers. That's not right You lied to your people and that's quite simple now you come with Paperwork to some of the water for Santa Cruz public meetings and say that your rates are on par with others But it is quietly quite frankly Disingenuous because you compare your rates to trout trout Gulch mutual and pure source water to small Very small companies. Why don't you use the same companies that you compared your rates to in 2017 and 18? Before your 17% increase back then when you were already the second highest All of these that were in your budget package. Why don't you look at those and compare yourself to those now? I've done it online and you're you're pretty high So I think you need to rescind your rate increases I think you need to go back to the drawing board and talk with your rate payers and really see what they want to do Because you're really hurting them and there are over 500 people that have signed the online Sky you know water transfers are on the edges of the not about water transfer This isn't about water transfer You submitted it. I could use past those Go ahead Please pass them out. It's important. I'm gonna just say you're using your time presentation your time has started Just say what you're gonna say information its production records from the Santa Cruz water department I think you want to take a look at it. It's important. We can take a look but not why you're speaking. We'll look later Go ahead our policy outlines how we deal with documents that are handed out last minute. So please go I think you just go ahead and say what you're gonna say. I hope you're listening. I Really do Dr. Daniels just said there's no water in Santa Cruz. They don't have a permit To transfer the water this I thought we weren't talking about water Transfers Okay, he said there is no water there is no permit. This is a production report Please look at me. Mr. Lee Huey. I was trying as one of them see if somebody put something up there related to it Okay, well, please put it up. Oh Just continue, please. Okay. This is a production report city of Santa Cruz. It's a water production report in it the month of August 2019 water production North Coast Streams 66 million gallons Every other month has positive numbers in it So Santa Cruz has water that it has the permission to move around Scott. I need to stop you I think this is about water transfers wait wait It seems like you're talking about the point that dr. Dr. Daniels just made that said there is no If you feel you're being genuine, please go ahead. I am being the next page This 2018 which is last year last year was a very dry year The same set of numbers is right here. You're gonna look at it when you look at it We have been arguing about this since May Santa Cruz has water in the North Coast every month Santa Cruz can do whatever it wants with North Coast water. Do you agree dr. Daniels? No, because they are fish requirements. They have other things they did now you need to listen One minute to go Santa Cruz also has 92% in Locke Lomond Santa Cruz if it could send water to you right now Could create an opportunity to capture storm water if we only have the difference between 90% and a hundred percent in The Locke Lomond reservoir going into the rainy season We can only capture 300 million gallons if we went down to 70% And sent the other 600 million to you Santa Cruz could capture 700 million gallons as it is now it just goes over the spillway so you need to think about these things There is water. We do have ability to move. I've got 11 seconds Kept the temper. It's been a pleasure. Well How that was not about water transfers, I'm still not sure but I Will say that you know repeatedly The director of the Santa Cruz water department has refuted your claims and we have to work with them And we work with them regularly and we are transferring water, which we will talk about at a later item Yeah, and I encourage everybody to stick around because miss Menard and her Chief engineers in the crowd will be part of the presentation after this. So please stick around Hello, I'm Chris Kirby So Cal Creek water rate payer and I keep hearing how you guys are saying that it's for the best best interest of the ratepayers this The the prices we are paying for water right now. What happened to the $5 or The this is going to go charge 70 something something percent of the people We have over 500 people who have signed our petition online and that doesn't get out to everybody We could start walking door-to-door. I have not talked to one person. That's happy with this water district Their rates are astronomical We can't afford it. It's like a budget. We have budgets to live on live by and when you compare trout Gulch That's not a fair comparison. I know somebody that's on that That works for that company. It's not a fair comparison neither is the second one that you list I just feel like you guys are deceiving us right and left and you do not care about the best interest of us Our bills gone up huge and I've been lawn shamed because I have a lawn, but I tried to explain I have two big dogs I refuse to let them go to the bathroom on plastic or cement and it's good for the environment to have some lawns we were going through our neighborhood and There are a few dead ones, but there's more alive lawns than not I Don't understand why we're being penalized like we are for your recycled water. I don't want to drink it I think it you guys have got to go back to the start a few of you have said that the rates are unfair You need to resend them and go back to where we were before because it's you're gonna I mean people are gonna lose their homes over this And I yeah, I guess you don't care, but we we it's just it's it's Punitive and it's it's not okay I have other things to do at my time and be here, but you people are not doing your jobs for us Good evening. My name is Gary Williamson. I am a Soquel water district rate payer And I've been learning quite a bit about the district over the last month. I came here as part of that education Having no idea what I was gonna walk into having No idea I was gonna speak and having nothing prepared One of the things I've I've learned over the last month, and I had a sense of this Was how qualified this board is how amazingly qualified and I also know personally That some of the people have a very caring heart Have a extreme sense of community Are very scientific Have the ability and the want to dig into things and find solutions From what I know about Quality program the someone helped me the pure water From what I know that water is gonna be pure I've drank the water coming out of Riverside. I feel fine. I know that testing is immense and And at a high quality and if there was a problem it would be found I Know that the the solutions are difficult But I can't imagine That you as as a group of people have not Done the work you need to do and will continue to do the work necessary Taking input from the group you know From all sources and I guess I just wanted to be a voice of thanks this evening for for the work that you do I don't think I'm gonna be popular with the crowd this evening, but But that's fine. I I love this community. I love the water and I know that sustainability is a big job ahead and I Support your efforts in finding solutions. Thank you. Thank you Is there anyone else I Just like to observe, you know, we're we're all customers also so we pay the same rates We I was on the that rate committee that group was a group of At any citizen who wanted to belong to that committee? They were able to participate and we worked for 18 months more than 18 months really in the end and They all came limited summer for unlimited income. Some were very wealthy and they just had some of the Properties they were tired of paying what they thought was a high water bill. They all came to this agreement that You know finding a solution and We Struggled with these rates, but this is this is our best approach. It really is expensive I think Once the road is cleared that the project can go through the state can help us with our grants This 9% increase is going to be reconsidered. It won't be necessarily part of our future race so I just want to Stay calm and keep going and keep an open mind Don't trust all that you read on the internet Consult a number of different sources on this We're all working really hard to get this district to sustainable Anyone else you already spoke nope It seems like it but no I'd like to share I understand your policy I'm gonna refer to some very specific things and I apologize that you don't have it Okay, just My name is Mark Kirby. I am a rate payer here in the district. I I'm the kind of person who doesn't believe everything I see doesn't believe what I read on the internet, but I have heard about You know the advertisement that the average person's bill would go up $5 Last rate increase was 9% And I saw my bill go up considerably more than that so I wanted to sit down do a little little work on that Figured out myself pulled out my April bill pulled out my June bill You know, I started looking at it and became very obvious very quickly that The amount of an increase that someone would would be paying was based very much upon how much water they would be using Put together a tiered Calculation where I calculated under the old rates and under the new rates What the increase would be? Comparing like usage prior and after so let me just hit some some key points because I do have a question here I want to get to Under the old system are our monthly connection fee was $32 and 95 cents right off my own bill The new one is 3704. It's a $4 and 9 cent increase. It's twelve point four three percent Tier one which used to be seven point nine nine hcf went down to five point nine nine The rate went from six ninety down to six forty three forty seven cent decrease It's a six point eight one percent decrease. Thank you for that. We're going the right direction Those two hcf though that now went from tier one to tier two Went from six dollars and ninety cents to twenty nine dollars and nineteen cents They went up twenty two point dollars and twenty nine cents or three hundred and twenty three percent Tier two went from six from nine dollars and eleven cents to twenty nine nineteen Two hundred and twenty percent increase. I'm not seeing nine percent here You know, so I started doing a little more math and I calculated at Six point nine nine hcf. What would my what would my bill be that's seven? What would it be old method new method? so at six my bill would have gone from eighty one dollars to a hundred and four a twenty nine percent increase at Seven hcf my bill would have gone from eighty eight dollars to a hundred and thirty three dollars fifty two percent increase at Eight hcf my bill would have gone from ninety seven dollars to a Hundred and sixty three dollars a sixty seven percent increase the next the next one nine hcf was an Eighty point nine three percent increase the next one was ninety one next one's a hundred and one and a hundred and nine It continually progresses I'm not seeing nine percent here for any of these rates I'm wondering if perhaps there was a Calculation done to derive the five dollars. I'd like to see it. I'm sure that you could get that because there is I mean, it's based on an average of all of the customers not just one customer's bill So we you know so but I'm sure that we can get to those and it sounds like it sounds like you're very good with numbers And so what's happened is there's a lot of people using a lot less water? And right for hcf or or five hcf a lot of people are into your one So that's that's where what balances it. Let's let's say the nine the nine percent is based not on an individual It's not not based on an individual. It's based on the entire income for the district It's let the customer sit down. That would be yeah, that's we're done now. Yeah, thank you I just ask you to share that. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, I think absolutely. Thank you very much You know we I think the board received okay, you got another hi my name is Mary Saxon I live in Capitola I'm here on behalf of my neighbors Whose rates just went way up mine was $80 a month to 330 same thing woman across the street 125 to $500 an elderly woman down the street. I what hers 125 to 350 Two people living in these homes not a big family We just like you to consider an alternative to what's going on because it's it's hardship and these tier one people Or a lot of vacation people who just come here for the weekends and they're not living here full-time and feeling the impact of this hardship So you people are smart. Come on. You've got to come up with something else Even if it means we go to California, we go and we lobby to get these rights changed You know it that's what it's gonna take and we're here and there's a lot more people That are willing to partake to help you get this done. Thank you. Thank you My name is Marie Thompson. I'm so cold creek water a user and my daughter and I Are living in a single-family home. I don't water my front yard if you drive by Bragg's Drive. You'll see it's dead. I Feel I'm being penalized for using less water It's it. That's what it came down to you said it yourself We're all using less water kudos to us, but our bill has gone up and up and up So I'm here to protest that Please do something about it. I'm retired. I have a fixed income and I can't handle this Okay, we ask the daily logs So we're just you know, I don't know how we can sustain something and we are using less water We're not watering our garden. I'm just trying to survive So expensive now, we don't want to leave the county. We just can't understand. Okay. Thank you. We do have this We do We do have the service of really talented Staff to come out and help figure out how to reduce water use for people that do that for as a free service So if you can't figure out why the water use is as high as it is they can at least try and help you figure that out I'll add that the board received Five six letters from members of the public expressing concerns Like you hear like this and so we we sent out letters today acknowledging Their input and and try to honor that Not just by sending a single response to one person Although we did try to individualize them to some degree to to really you know make that connection But more importantly honor their comments by creating an FAQ because one of the some of the questions you're hearing tonight are the same You know that were repeated so everybody can have the benefit of Our response to that person other people may have similar questions, so I encourage People have questions to go through this and it's attached to each of the people, but it talks about the cost May not be what you want to see but this is you know our best effort to get responses to the questions we're hearing so, you know, I think the one tonight that I'll just accent is the tier one tier two rates That is the Level it's one penny a gallon when it's in tier one and four pennies a gallon when it's in tier two That's what you pay for the price and it does add up if you use a lot of water The reason for that break is that's what the consultant and consultants determined as the Sustainable limit per household So we didn't discriminate whether you have a lawn or whether you have a lot of people it was just per household So and it is a bright line. We acknowledge that Regarding the rates just to put it in perspective. I heard it's not fair to compare to one eight small agency I think these are the smaller ones here. So kill Santa Cruz rates inside the for the average customer bill of six units Is this outside the district? It's this I want to be very clear on that We're right with our neighbors in that billing there Anyway, the questions are out there They're posted on our website and sent individually to each person who had that so again to try to provide some meaningful Response to some of these questions. It may not bring down your your cost Although as mentioned, we do have many programs to do that free water-wise house call It's probably our foremost flagship and it's it's helped a lot of people not everybody I know some of you in the crowd here tonight have used that service for whether it's leak detection Putting on low-flow shower heads or whatever But we do make an attempt especially those people that are going up into the second tier to lower the cost We know it's tough Excuse me Okay, I Think we're done with public comment, so we're closing that board I As you recall, I didn't like the rates and The one thing I didn't like was the big jump and how small amount it jumped at And I would love for us to and we yeah and for me I didn't have any Knowledge of how you got to that point, you know, it just came to me and so I did actually vote against it But it was mostly because of that jump and that's what these people are upset about and even I Had a leak and I got the $250 bill three months in a row before I figured it out So I understand that I'm just wondering when we could when are we bringing the rates back so we couldn't Look at how it was set up because it was a big jump and Overall we need the money to do what we're gonna do, but how we did it seem I've I've heard what people have said We have the 218 process and it's good for three years It gives a maximum amount doesn't mean we have to charge the maximum But the reason we went to tears was plain and simple that we had more tears and we were challenged on that in court and the challenge was upheld and so we Basically became gun shy It's what I think happened. So, you know, I'm I'm I'm Think we have to I'd like to see how many people are being affected How much the rates are going up? And and then have the discussion on whether we We open up The rates and nothing prevents us from doing that. Yeah, just yeah, we could do that We don't I think we still have to go with two tears You have to abide by the prop proposition 218 which requires that your tears and Bob you can help me out We are your your cost is as that nexus to the customer. Basically one customer is not subsidizing another customer and rationale for why It's It is strong rational, I understand that I don't know if the other directors want to see it But I want to see how many people are being affected Sure a lot of people here and I believe we base the the top of the first tier on What it would take to be sustainable? but There's there's many ways to look at that. I mean it doesn't have to be six, right? It could be well, let me put another thing and it's in the FAQs it it well That's a that's a bigger topic, but I've done rates before so but it the The nine percent six percent of that nine has nothing to do with a supplemental supply option This is in the FAQ So six out of those nine six percent out of the nine are just the cost it has nothing to do It has cost escalation our infrastructure the three percent is in pursuant of Additional water supplies such as water transfers pure water soquel Recharge and that sort of thing so even if you stripped away and we said No supply which would mean severe cutbacks For water use and higher cost because we have fixed cost That's the that's what the analysis done by UCSC is and this is I think in the FAQ so it is a complex thing It's not easy on anybody there. There's there's probably a few ways to go water budgets The two-tiered maybe a flat rate, but then the lower users become more But it could be distributed in many ways. I think people understand a certain percentage increase to Cover costs. I think the hardest part is this the tears the dramatic Change because I think that's the part that's bothered me the most is if you're a two-person family And you keep it under you know at 50 gallons per person per day, and then you're okay But if you have more people that you may not have control over You know then then that's where it becomes unfair. So There are choices even with more people. Let's let's spend Let's back and discuss it and people can come back to that sure. Yeah But one thing we need to all be aware of is that because we lost that lawsuit We can't go back to the rates we had before you know the four-tier water no rates We had before we can't do that, right? So we have to be creative and cope with something that It's still gonna be a change, but it Hopefully could be fair if we come up with something different. Well, let's move will be different Before we have a discussion on like more information on How the rates are Affecting people. I mean it'd be very simple to do a cumulative to do a plot that has Like like mr. Kirby said You know do our own plot on that and see how many people are involved in each of those water uses areas and You know just get get all the facts and then see I think that's a good first step It's just to say how you know, we've heard from people. We we know we were uncomfortable with that jump in here But how is it actually playing out? Granted they did a you know model for how many people would be affected But I think I think coming back with you see how now that was a model. Let's see what the reality What's the reality? The bottom line is there's a fixed there's a certain cost unless we get grants and you know low-interest loans There's a specific cost for that part But there's also the cost just for O&M and taking care of the system now the operations and maintenance of this system Right, but I totally get if people think that we don't need a supplemental water supply and the rates are going up And they they think that's because the supplemental water supply that they're pissed off we can always do a better job of But if you say six of the nine percent is not even it's just from regular stuff, so okay, well, let's move on We've had thank you for coming. Yes. Thank you for coming. You're welcome to stay. You don't have please stay You've been heard I think I can I can for the river the next items great item to stay for so Yeah, we've got some we have a management update first item 5.1 Or are we gonna move it up? We could move the river one up if if you thought That's fine. No, let's do that. Let's go to item Six point three where are we three three three got it I Welcome All right, so now we are going to start with item 6.3 Who is introducing this item? I will Josh if the audience could please Cut the noise down We're on our next item. Thank you. Yeah, I do hope most of the audience stays to hear this because it is relevant Tonight as you see next to me we have Rose Mary Menard the water director for city water department and Heidi Lucan box She's the engineering manager to chief deputy director and then Christine Mead. It also is with me At the podium we have Emily Tummins with black and beach and she's been with us over the course of the water quality studies and we're gonna tag team this and Do a little intro go go dive deep into some of the water quality Parameters that we have measured over the course of the last year and then kind of circle back going to look forward Thank you for Okay, so our our effort for looking for a supplemental supply began Long time ago as our board knows and some of our customers knows we went through a long process of 14 month effort To consider Options, but before looking at water supplies. We maximize we want to maximize our conservation and Make sure our customers use as little as possible we also have a significant effort for groundwater management and that is kind of supported by the Sustainable Groundwater Management Act and the mid County groundwater agency And then we of course we've heard tonight some talk about pure water soquel and recycled water and our efforts to prevent seawater intrusion through Recharge wells What's bolded here in red is the river water transfer and purchase from the city of Santa Cruz? So we will focus on that tonight. Of course. We do have desalination and stormwater capture In our portfolio that we're following Because we wanted our customers to know how important this is and I Don't see mr. There's mr. McGilvery Districts guiding principles for river water purchase and transfer we've we've incorporated this into our guiding principles So that we can look back to it and make sure we're following along this led us to a pilot agreement that'll be the next slide and A five-year short-term pilot project to investigate and resolve potential issues when bringing surface water into a predominantly groundwater distribution system Also listed here in the second bullet amend the district's domestic water supply permit to add the city's surface water as a supply source Of course, we wanted to be ready to receive water on November 1st Which is when the winter period kind of begins November 1st through April 30th And then also moving forward with the city to better understand benefits issues constraints of the city long long-term Water rights with the San Lorenzo River This is just a clip of the Purchase agreement that is is has been executed and we've been running last winter. We use this I what's highlighted here are some points that we want to make sure people understand that this is just the beginning of an effort a long-term effort and We recognize that we need to start somewhere and so here we are with a pilot project We've been asked by some members of the public to just open the valve and do it Certainly there are legal constraints and there's also technical constraints that we want to make sure we don't make missteps That has been done in some communities and we don't want to be on the front page with problems What this short-term pilot? Project is Getting its source water from is the north coast the city's north coast streams and their Primarily Majors Creek and Lydell There is another Laguna Creek, but I believe the fish Requirements up there are pretty high so they they can't take too much water from that. I think just because and Please correct me if I'm wrong Heidi and Rosemary just because there are no water rights Constraints up there. It does not mean that you're exempt from any fisheries resources or Protected species So through the past three to four years, we've been working on several studies Black and beach did conduct a desktop analysis Which led us in the meantime the city was working on a sequel document Which is governing the current pilot study? And then we also did some Jar testing and bench scale testing between September and June of 2018 September to 2016 to June 2018 Which led us to last winter when we did Provide city surface water to approximately 2300 connections And we brought in 165 acre feet through The month prior to that we were sampling our distribution system that you can see in in Red and it's generally around Soquel Creek All throughout the transfer and then three months after that we collected distribution samples to understand What happens to the distribution system when a different water is introduced? When I say a different water, I hope everyone in the audience and watching understands that Up until then all of the water going through our pipes was from groundwater wells The city has water that is from us a flowing source And so there's different water quality chemistry and Emily will go through that to the right of this slide we are anticipating starting the second year of Pilot water purchase and it's an expanded zone The highlighted area is The area that we notified our customers of we don't anticipate The water comes from the west so 41st Avenue is where our intertide connection is and it will make its way to the east Generally speaking we don't think that the water will make it past that red line Which we call the the border between sub area one and two I Am going to pass it off to Emily and she's going to go through some of the Parameters that we analyzed over the course of the last transfer Thank You Taj Yeah, so Taj create laid out a great background I will Provide just a tidbit more of a refresher and then dive into the water quality results, which is what? My part of the presentation focuses on and then So the background as Taj mentioned, there's been multiple steps that we've been involved in and Most recently I was out here talking about the bench scale testing results that were successful and led us in To the pilot that showed that pipe loop testing was not necessary prior to beginning our first transfer of water and I want to clarify that the team working on this report comprised of a very qualified Individual Mark Edwards who is from Virginia Tech University, and he was the one Primarily investigating the Flint, Michigan issue, so please understand that this was a very technically Savvy team and we moved forward because of this Taj mentioned as well. We developed an extensive monitoring plan We wanted to make sure that prior to the transfer we created baseline data, and I have a couple of graphs on the next slide So there's the pre-transfer then there's that began in October of 2018 the transfer itself Allowing cities water to enter the district's pilot area began in December of 2018 and then that lasted through the end of April and then the post transfer data We wanted to make sure that the water quality still Stayed at a very high level after going back to just being served by the groundwater wells throughout the area in the map you see the small pilot area that was used and the The intertie is pointed out as well as the three sample sites are in blue circles Where distribution system water quality was analyzed for a large slew of parameters? This graph shows the water Volumes that was transferred throughout Throughout the transfer as well as when supplemental water was necessary to be provided from the district's wells the Availability of water is another issue in addition to water quality And so there were times where the blue line represents the water that was received from the city or imported and the green and the Pink lines represent two of the district's wells that served this area during During the transfer so there were sometimes where supplemental water was Necessary and then in total we had about a hundred and sixty five acre feet brought over from the city's Sources was that by design to try different wells to see what the effect was because it looks like there's Main Street was in the later period used more I think that There were some operational things that happened in that segment after we began in December then there was a change in the structure in part because you guys needed to operate your O'Neill Street well So there were some things that were going on that were You know sort of necessary for maintaining the ability to access wells in the event that We weren't able to supply You know water I think that that segment in In February March, we had a very dry period there. We weren't actually bringing very much water in from the coast at that time There's another factor as well. We've been doing some work on our O'Neill well because And and we wanted to try it out and see did those fixes work So we wanted to try it out for that first green period and then after that we decided well We don't want to do that so we turned the Main Street well on the second time We had an issue so that so there were a variety of things and I think that You know we were all sort of learning what kinds of factors needed to be taken into account when you know We're trying to operate so yeah, if we look at the period from March through April that's sort of the you know Hopefully we can do that this coming winter We do note that the the demand in sub area one is is larger than what is likely available so You know if we do this again next year you'll see is a graph that will have wells coming on To to make up the demand But at no time will it pin like it did with one well handling all the demand Not likely Wasn't there a time when the city couldn't provide water because of some fish requirements on the north coast I think that was actually we did we were meeting our fish requirements, which I always do first but What we needed to be able to do is to produce about a million gallons a day so that over the month if we're going to send a million gallons to Or however much the volume is we need to be able to balance the books at the end of each month saying that we produce This much water from the north coast sources and we sent it It's obviously not molecule for molecule, right? But it it has to the books have to balance That's one of the parameters that we report to the state about So one of the water quality parameters that does vary between The district source and the city's sources are the TOC the total organics Carbon in the water again, it's the difference between groundwater and surface water typically And so here we see that there's a before the transfer when we were doing the the monitoring the TOC levels were lower The TOC did increase with During the transfer with the city's water being used but both it's important to remember that both sources are Very high-quality water sources, but this is a difference in water quality and one that that we wanted to Evaluate and yeah, that's fine And so with higher TOC levels, it's important to look at that effect on disinfection byproducts So there were a number of samples collected throughout at the three sample stations out in the distribution system as well as at the inner tie and What we did was the Maximum contaminant level the regulatory level for these constituents are based on a Locational running annual average so in order to do that We took a worst-case look trying to be as conservative as possible and Took the highest value from these different quarters So you can see the quarters highlighted at the top and even with doing that with the highest values collected during all of those the results at the three sample stations were about half of what the the MCL is for total trihalomethane's and Again, this is just in result to the seasonal seasonality of this water transfer And on the next slide It's the same sort of graphic for the halo acetic acids the five that are used in the regulation Again, it did increase when the city's water was being used Just due to slightly longer water age But again, we looked at the very worst-case values and it still was typically about Half of the the MCL the regulatory levels. So both high-quality waters prior to the study and it was still within regulatory standards We also looked at the effect on corrosion Specifically metals like lead and copper and all the values that were collected throughout the transfer And after the transfer Were below the action levels All of the lead levels except for one were even below detection limits. So very good results throughout this study The sites that were located within This pilot area of the distribution system haven't been sampled As lead and copper rule sample sites for about 10 years So we didn't have historic or recent historic data to compare to but again, everything was below Action levels for lead and copper Like I said, we tested for a number of different analytes And here's a giant list of all sorts of inorganics that were tested throughout the system and all of those were non non-detect below detection limits based on what the The state sets for reporting limits Average turbidity was very low. These are things that a customer could notice the aesthetics There were only three customer complaints throughout this entire pilot system and all were very easily resolved With some simple flushing the thought is that it might be due to the reversal of flow in the areas There were Only one location had a small spike in heterotrophic plate counts, but it was very short-lived so it could have just been as simple as Some slight contamination on the sample port But again, we will continue to sample for that if another pilot project continues for more transferred water Just to ensure that that is indeed the case and then pH is so important and we didn't see any Significant changes in pH throughout the transfer There's been a slight decrease lately, so it's just something to keep our eyes on but that's been back with the district wells I had a question about you. So you're taking your samples just a point in time for Copper and lead because it's all of those are grab samples. Yeah, so have Is that something that varies? Much over time You know how represented it is that point in time? Yeah, so copper and lead along with the other slew of metals were measured at the distribution system samples sites those three sites as well as the inner tie I think it was every other week throughout the transfer Sampling period and then excuse me that it was weekly weekly. Okay, and then The tap samples that were collected at select customer houses were also sampled for lead and copper And that was a sample is taken during the transfer and a sample taken after the transfer So there's a point in just three samples from there and and then weekly from In the distribution system Let's variance in the distribution system data Or No, we didn't really see it was all below reporting detection limits So the major conclusion is that the water quality Transfer it was a success based on the water quality results as Showed it stayed within regulatory Parameters for DVPs. It was non-detect for lead and copper In the distribution system The tap samples for lead and copper were below the action levels So overall the water quality transfer Was a success in terms of the quality of water that was provided So there are some next steps if we are to look at the second phase of this pilot water transfer project there's a Red outline highlighted for what the phase two area could look like that Taj mentioned at the beginning This red area is service area one. It is unlikely that the water would exceed past Further to the east Based on the demands in this area and the potentially available water from the city and Again Monitoring would be key again doing the pre Transfer water to again create a baseline for this larger area that could be receiving water during the transfer and then post But a number of the analytes We would not recommend Retesting as they were below detection limits throughout the entire Length of the study and so as a cost-saving measure Some of those analytes could be removed and then it's important to discuss sample site Selection with DDW to get their input I have a question It seems that all of the tests were done in the open distribution system For example, none of the tests were in our tanks and I know in the past all of our problems about Disinfection byproducts has been in the tanks because you get the chlorine and other stuff up in there And they just sits and sits and if you don't test for those We're not sure how much gets up there and it probably has a very long decay life once it gets up there, I don't and I think Testing in in the tanks to see how much it gets there and how long it stays and what kind of Disinfection byproducts we have get engendered in those tanks would be a key thing to do So I would like to see that for phase two Okay, we do have Maybe even longer residence time with sample sites that are at the end of a really long line that is served by a tank And so we've identified some of those in the second phase That we will we've identified to monitor for those specifically We can discuss adding the tanks themselves if we wish If that would make you feel more comfortable to look at that plus the distribution system Usually the state requires it being in the distribution system not at the tank sure But if to the extent these tanks are feeding the distribution system I mean that's always been our worst problem And I would like to see what is the worst problem with this transfer to to make sure that everything is totally absolutely Hunky-dory and not just hunky-dory some places So I think the one thing that I would like to just suggest maybe be considered typically in a surface water system where these kinds of things are issues Distribution system management it water age management is a pretty active activity so People look at different ways of operating their tanks to turn them over more rapidly they Change the way that the system functions We certainly have done that in the Santa Cruz system over the last You know 20 years between when those the stage two DVP regs came in I mean we may have to do what you are doing We haven't had to do that right it didn't get up to a dangerous Right, but that was our worst problem. Yeah, I mean I guess the one thing I would say from having participated in the development of the Disinfection byproducts and the surface water treatment rules that we're currently living on or under that you know this the the sort of Psychology of what we're trying to do is think about water as a perishable product that needs to be Managed really from the source to the tap So water aging is a really big issue that I think a lot of surface water utilities over the last Couple of decades have really been working on understanding what's going on in their system and how they're operating and taking active measures to change their operation to really Maintain a reasonable water age in their system I just like to see where we stand right now with this program I agree we can do things to make it better if there is a problem, but let's see if there is a problem at all You know to that point when we did do our model computer modeling We did analyze what it would take to decrease the water age by cycling the tanks more That is a balancing act with being prepared during a natural disaster during a large fire You know these these public safety shutoffs did give us some notice So I wouldn't say that we would be vulnerable to those because we can top off the tanks in those instances But for the for the unplanned natural disaster if you're caught Down at the bottom of a cycle or a main break You could dewater the system which is not desirable at all So it's I think for us we would like to see worst-case scenario and keep Our operation as it is for this next winter That would generate probably the worst-case results It always depends on what source the city is using at the time as we've seen it does vary So yeah, we will we have that in our recipe book But I think we do want to understand what is the bookend of both both options, but I think we can add the tanks Christine and I will discuss that and see if we can do that. Thank you Do you have any? So page 116 of your report Talks about HAA 5 Which is Give me give me the acid. Hello You will see the gassets so first question there's an MCL for them So how nasty are they? What I? Just don't have history. I don't have knowledge of This infection byproducts are as a as a rule They are chronic exposure contaminants the concerns are typically some kind of a cancer endpoint and the MCLs were set based on a two liter per day consumption of water over the those MCL limits for 70 years and that's how the analysis was done and how they were set It's chronic Versus acute so that So when you go to the charts below on that It shows that Thank you for blowing it up. It shows that the maximum levels during a quarter for Cherryville Avenue 79 is above the MCL So does that require us to do anything should do something again the MCL is based on the locational running annual average Okay, so it's not just based on one point. So typically you would Like monitor for every third week in a quarter and you would take that sample For this analysis, we took the worst value in that quarter And yes, so for you for you to see exceed the MCL For us to exceed the MCL, we'd have to have that maximum value For three quarters of the year Yeah, and I guess I will tell you that typically the hail acidic acid levels are higher in the Winter time in our water. We typically see that and the THMs are typically higher in the summertime when the warmer water and that the chemistry kinetics will tend to be more actively forming the Hail the THMs Total tri-halomethane Typically we'll see that half does it have to do with organics. They all have to do with organics They're they're a combination of total organic carbon and and typically chlorine. So they're all form one kind of a Characteristic of you know, a set of compounds that are related typically the tri-halomethane are Chlorinated brominated some kind of a combination of you know, di-bromocloromethane Dichlorobromomethane those kinds of things right? I have one more Well, I want to mention something relative to that. We were talking about the Two liters a day for 70 years. That's definitely used for producing the public health goals, but often it's not used for the MCLs no, no, that's not correct actually these act those were actually the way that the exposure was Developed was two liters a day Water above these standards for 70 years the MCL goal if it's a carcinogen is zero the MCL G is always by law it's set at zero right now some constituents like Arsenic is a thousand times higher than the public health goal. So yes, there are exceptions Well, I you know again. It's set on a health risk analysis with a particular sense of what the exposure is and and then what the whether what the endpoint is you're managing for also But they all the pop the MCL also uses how difficult is it to get it down there at its cost? Yes There's a other considerations added to the mix there is that and then my other question was on page 117 There's a table with the complaints. There are three complaints that are in that table so is that all the complaints that occurred and it looks like they responded to quickly and solved but things like cloudy water and particles or brownish water are they How do you why do you think these things occurred? Those were the only three complaints that we received that we in that area during that time which other than like pouring odor and whatnot so We think that it was because it was easily Resolved by flushing that it was more due to a change in direction because of the isolated zone water was Coming down one direction from the intertide When typically when that zone wasn't isolated it could have been mostly going the opposite way so so for the second phase There's going to be additional flushing Yes, well, we won't have the change in direction issue for this next phase Because that's only in the first segment that With it near the water transfer right and that was because we had valves closed to isolate that portion of the distribution system So it forced the water to go a different direction than normal I'm gonna continue One thing to note. I know we've really talked a lot about disinfection byproducts But what is being presented by Emily and what's in the packet is For that isolated zone now we know through modeling and through our own data that Our water does get older as it goes further into sub area one So we will watch that and we'll continue to report that as it comes available So beyond water quality We also want to just touch on some of the other things that we learned and that we have to be aware of This list of bullets is not comprehensive. There were other items that we did leave off just to spare you but the dialogue has been You know going back and forth with the city to talk about anything that we need to do this coming winter to Overcome some of those challenges, but you know high on the list is water supply reliability now at this time We've we've mentioned we have to keep our wells ready and available in case The city has asked us to cut back or if the valve needs to be turned down We got to make up the difference and so our wells need to stay ready for that So reliability quantity Cost is something that we want to touch on tonight the hydraulics and I want to touch on the Pipes and how they worked And some of these other things we won't dive too deep into This I mean I'm gonna let Heidi and Rosemary Stop me if I'm getting this wrong But this slide is from a meeting of theirs that they had with the water commission in on April 1st of this year and It it has been stated earlier tonight that this is sort of the priority for their water Use and it it goes to make sure that their fish flow requirements are met We don't ignore those. We don't look past those. That's priority one for them Then after that they meet the demands of their customers and then after that they put water in storage whether it's Loch Lomond or maybe through ASR and then after that they consider what's available as surplus or excess okay This is a very complicated table and I don't want anybody to get too focused on it, but this Is just an example that We are trying to look at the full spectrum here while this pilot project is Limited in in availability and it's about 300 acre feet We're optimistic both agencies are working to try to maximize whatever is available this table is Intended to provide at least a rough estimate of the availability of Differing amounts we've got 1,500 acre feet 500 acre feet 300 acre feet under different scenarios where we have the existing Groundwater tree gram health treatment plant and then any improvements to the right There are various historical climate change Flow requirements for the fish on the far left and then different demands that the city is expecting There's a couple things that you know, we're made clear that night and I'm gonna just I have it in quotes and I think Rosemary has mentioned it before I think our board has heard that and we've accepted it That the city can provide some water, but not the full amount that we're looking for We want to be thankful for what we may have available and so we're gonna maximize that and move forward that way Of course the 1500 acre feet is what we're looking to reliably obtain to restore the groundwater basin Are there any questions on this from the board? You've you've may have seen this before and that's just water transfer to us and not water transfer back to them How much could they give us and literally give us, right? Yes, this is a these were assumed that they were kind of one way But the other thing I guess I just want to note here is Our analysis is probabilistic. We don't use a single year. We don't you know look at the data We we look at 70 80 years of data under a variety of either historic or the climate change scenarios that have been developed so the this data basically says that for The 1500 acre feet the way this was done was It was kind of the capacity of the inner tie opened up all the time in a consecutive system strategy Meaning that part of your service area would get our water year-round So it would be you'd buy that water whole cell from us and it was done that way really to To help sort of minimize the cost of additional infrastructure and delivering it you guys in particularly in light of the fact that We're involved in making Substantial investments in our the backbone infrastructure of our water system And so not having to have anybody have to absorb additional costs associated with additional infrastructure Was or was a strategy And you can see that under either one of the scenarios It's really we don't have the water looking at the whole record That's been created under historical and the other climate change alternatives Even under the low demand scenario, which is the what we've been experiencing. Basically 2016 1718 and now 19 We do not have reliability to provide the hundred the 1500 acre feet that you're looking for Under the 300 acre feet or the 500 acre feet. We have substantial reliability under most of the scenarios We don't have that under the high Demand the 3.2 billion gallon demand Under the climate catalog because as we've talked about in other settings That one has its rainfall all condensed into One or you know a relatively condensed period of time, which doesn't really support a very good water transfer Or for storage and recovery strategy Would you like to move on? Okay The current source up up highway one north coast streams is conveyed down to the city's Graham Hill treatment plant through a long pipeline and we call it the north or they call it the north coast pipeline and It gets boosted up to the Graham Hill treatment plant through the coast pump station, which can be vulnerable to flooding These are just things that may affect the reliability if you're relying on these north coast sources that are pretty far removed from The local treatment plant You know the city is undergoing an EIR for and a change petition with the state amending its place of use for the San Lorenzo water rights and maybe some other rights, too And At this time, you know, we're the agreement covers just the north coast Sources, but we understand that the agreement also wants to look at the long-term Opportunities, so we've been meeting with the city Over the course of that EIR preparation so that we're in advised of what's going on In the meantime, I think the city in their own Planning has looked at upgrading Graham Hill treatment plant for more Flexibility for their own use So that's a positive that will make these disinfection byproducts and total organic carbon decrease So that's nice to see that work being planned. I Mentioned we always need to have our wells on standby ready to go at any moments notice For multiple reasons even say a natural disaster where the city may need to activate the inner time reverse it We want to be able to react quickly This last couple bullets talk about the flow rate and we'll go into that a little more but Generally, oh take away is that it was reliably meeting about a thousand gallons a minute Which does equate to about 1.4 million gallons a day It's driven by a pressure drop between the two agencies and the larger of that Pressure difference the the more flow can come through You know we are purchasing this water from the city at an agreed price that is listed in the Purchase agreement We do understand that it may need to be increased After if we move on to a longer term agreement This is a temporary pricing structure that is made to answer questions and not get in the way of doing that And so we appreciate the city is also sharing costs of all the water quality testing all the reporting We're partners in this 50-50. So we do appreciate that partnership The last two bullets just talk about you know We're not exempt from proposition to 18 or 26 and the Sustainable Groundwater Management Act does not allow us to do a Whole sale thing and bypass that we can't subs or the city cannot subsidize other customers So we're nearing the end of the the presentation here We do I'm circling back the range of flow rates is driven by that pressure differential And it ranged between 800 gallons a minute and up to even 1400 when You know the demand was low on the city side or their boosters were not running and our tanks were low We you know, I think Dr. Daniels mentioned that we were we are still Trying to resolve our ammonia challenges at the O'Neill Ranch well And so you know we we may be needing to operate that well as we try to resolve that issue We had an unintended experience with electric rates and When PG&E when you sign up for an electric rate They kind of expect you to use a certain amount of Electricity and when you don't they penalize you and therefore we saw some significant increases 700% of Main Street 250% at Garnet Because they sort of hoped that you'd be doing that so we're not sure if we can overcome that Whether you can flip-flop Over the course of a year winter summer thing, but it was something that I don't think anybody forces You know looked out for We the district is right now applied for another permit amendment for this upcoming winter The current one was limited to the restricted area and so we've worked with our local Division of drinking water representatives to amend another permit for that We did already send out notices and I know some of you probably already got them I hope those of you in sub area one and two have received a postcard We did send out about ten thousand and we know that that over notified the area affected I Don't believe we've received any phone calls as well Maybe one inquiry one email on my side that I did respond to but We are trying to target and we've talked to the city reps about when we could start and their water Situation may allow it to begin November 1st We already began the sampling that we talked about although it did not include the tanks but we can grab a sample before we open in November 1st and As already stated we're Anticipating that we can hopefully transfer up to about 300 acre feet this winter Last slide so thank you for bearing with us. There's of course the quantity Question and we want to just recognize that we're going to try to work as to Together to get as much as we can We are also pursuing other options and it doesn't mean that this will be Not looked at we will look in parallel. We've always wanted a diversified portfolio. So we will do that We just can't Can't count on it to solve our base and deficit that we've been looking for and and so we're doing it as a Benefit it'll do it'll help supplement The the price is right now set at a thousand dollars per million gallons, which is about 326 dollars an acre foot We're working with the city to to learn what that might be over a longer period as they're legally constrained to do so And then of course this says Emily presented most of the water quality results look favorable we are going to monitor disinfection byproducts and the hydraulics the logistics of moving water seem to be Not a limiting factor at these levels of this amount of water So we anticipate that we don't have to make many changes in order to to bring this next phase into play so Any additional questions from the board for Emily Rosemary Heidi or myself or Christine Can I just make one comment? I know that you've heard and probably heard some of the same kinds of things that you know We're not the the organizations ought to work together and I just want to pass on something that happened the other day when we were all dealing with the public safety power shut down on The the city was shut off on all of its San Lorenzo sources Coast pump station the treatment plant and the Felton booster and as we were on a Lachloman at the time that it went down Felton booster was necessary to push the water up over the hill to get it to the treatment plant at the time that we started to Get the plan and you guys were where everyone was getting you know notified you guys asked us to open the inner tie To send water to you on an emergency condition, which we were able to do Simultaneously, we had an interaction with the people in the San Lorenzo Valley water district and loaned them a generator And also because they were down a couple of people because some of their folks were Conveniently out of the country at the time that this all happened We we offered them you know back up people in the event that they needed it and then we checked in with the folks in the In the scott's valley water district to see how they were doing and whether or not they needed anything And you know that had a lot of conversation back and forth so on the I guess that happened on the Wednesday on Thursday I had an interaction with Jan Swigert Who's the division of drinking water person that we all work with and I kind of gave her a little update on our situation and then passed on sort of the status and back and we had a couple of backs and forwards But at the end she said to me She'd always been impressed with how the water agencies in Santa Cruz County work together to support each other And I think that that was a really great example of the kind of collaboration communication coordination and really You know focus on getting the job done on the behalf of our customers that from my perspective Happens every single day whether we're working at the mid-county groundwater agency at their Santa Margarita groundwater agency Working back and forth to address these kinds of issues. So I think that you know, we have an exemplary Functional relationships here that really ought to be celebrated and acknowledged and you know Somebody who's lives in Monterey and just with whatever she deals with wherever her the rest of her territory is Recognizes that even if we don't always see it Great. Thank you You had a question Just to be clear nobody in aptos gets this water, right? Not at this time, right? Because I didn't get a sub area two would include part of aptos if it went to sub area Yeah, yeah, where which part of aptos are you talking about basically not east of SoCal Creek or Aptos Creek? That's not feasible But definitely the concentration will reduce as you go further and further to the east That's right. You might get you know smidgen of the water, but So, okay, so no other questions from the word So the transfers are limited right now by the north coast Stream volume that you take but the you've there's an EIR that's being done to for water rights Yes, so so let me make a couple clarifications The transfers are limited by the available resource in the north coast source and the sequel document That was done for the pilot project which established the time frame that we could do this between November 1st and April 30th so Whatever's on pieces of paper that show water coming in in August doesn't matter or Whatever's on pieces of paper that might show you the state of our current Loch Lomond storage doesn't matter because So Cal Creek is not in the places of use of any of our San Lorenzo River rights so until the EIR on the water rights changes the change petitions are finished, which we're hoping will be about a year out We do not we cannot take water from storage out of Loch Lomond and send it to you That's a real-world constraint that we can't we won't Violate let's put it that way right, but if that water right goes through Yeah, then then I think that there's opportunities for changing the volume changing the Not the so much the seasonality because I think that there is there are more concerns That's the San Lorenzo is sort of closed to additional appropriations between I believe it's May 1st and the end of October So, you know, there's sensitivity about the flows for habitat and other kinds of resource management issues So I think that we would still largely be providing water In the winter season, which is when you know, we would be looking at Opera storage and recovery also, but I also think that the one option we put in there for the For the annual, you know 1.4 million gallons with the capacity the 1500 acre foot strategy We looked at it did assume that we would basically be delivering water under though San Lorenzo River water rights And that that amount of water would just become part of our demand, right that we would just be serving you 1500 acre feet a year 1.4 million would just go on top of our demand and and we would plan that into our Operations Can't do that now, right, but and you might not be able to do in the future if there's not enough water Hey dry years. Yeah, and then We have limitations on what we can take right? I Mean that that's the other piece of it that we can't give you more water than you can actually then your customers are actually using in this strategy because That's to go someplace Our water our customers don't use as much water during the winter time 2.2.3 2.4 MGD A quick question to I mean it's definitely to this coming coming transfer how the climate predictions for the coming winter might affect that if it Well, the rainy season is supposed to begin in November Right This is always the dicey part right just trying to figure out where we are and I think that Because we've had this has been a wetter year or 20 what a year 2019 was in the wet category We've we've had more base flows particularly in the north coast sources than we might have had in other kinds of years So a lot happens to look at you know we have to look at the fish life cycle the actual flows that are not required and We won't be able to tell that really until closer to the time But I think our goal would be to try to make sure that we can You know as soon as we can that we get this going because it's good for you And I think it does help us understand more about What it will take to do this well if we want to continue And some of the some of the climate indicators are not positive There is no El Nino Sitting out there waiting for us in fact, it's cold water off of Ecuador and in addition There's a as you pointed out at an earlier meeting. There is a warm blob out there Which is the thing that calls the 2015 drought to happen So that could be a factor as well But if you're a believer in whiplash weather then we're due for a dry one after a wet one Okay, any other questions so just to remind people that most of this is informational, but we will we also are going to be asked to You know accept the the report but not after public comment So now it's time if anybody was to comment on this item Thank you for these good reports. Thank you for being here this evening and My name is Becky Steinbrenner. I'm a resident of Aptos Hills I want to commend the district on being so cautious about mixing of these two different water sources It's unfortunate. It took so long to get there, but I appreciate your caution So I've read through this report and I found it very interesting. I remember that Barely two weeks into the water transfer last winter the district did turn on the O'Neill ranch well That came as a bit of a surprise to the city water commissioners And so I want to ask because I know that the O'Neill well has high Ammonia and Therefore, I think your district has a waiver For some disinfection byproducts could that have been what caused some of these high Disinfection byproducts that you're seeing during the water transfer period because the O'Neill well was on I also want to point out that The The amount of water predicted that would be used 165 acre feet last year when you could have taken 300 I Suppose that that partly was because of the restriction on the demand level But also because you turned on the O'Neill ranch and the main street well, but also the city did their ASR time ASR pilot project and I remember hearing that you were asked to to turn off The transfer and correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want to put out misinformation so the reading through the document the projected customer demand is based on the 2015 levels and What I see in your records consistently is that your demand is down from what it was and Continuing to go down so Please don't let it seem like this will not work because Your demand is going to be bigger and I hope that it does in fact supply a lot of area, too I want to point out also and that In terms of monitoring before some of the metals were not tested We're not monitored until almost a month into the transfer cadmium things like that. We're not Tested and some of those actually decreased in levels During the transfer over what they were afterwards. So please pay attention to that and hardness Improved while the transfers were on so your customers must have been happy about that There's a lot of information here and I want to just mostly say The temperature also decreased the transfer water was two degrees colder. Thank you That's good. That doesn't support bacterial growth and I would like finally to ask miss Menard while she's here Please speak about the impending lawsuit from the north coast time is up that Dr. Daniels brings up almost every time Steinberg your time is up. Oh, thank you Colonel Terry Maxwell a right-paying customer of the so-called Creek Water District and a concerned informed citizen and resident of the county Miss Menard I'd also appreciate you addressing the concerns miss Steinbrunner brought up and her inquiry regarding the north coast lawsuit issues if you could Evaluate if you will elucidate that and the position of yourself in your office in the city Regarding that for the attendees who've gotten who come here those of us who come here In addition, I referring to page 108 report And I'll address this to anybody competent to answer it Results from the pilot water transfer matched chlorine decay bench scale testing Showing a more stable chlorine residual in the district's sources When compared to the chlorine residual in the city's treated water, I Think I know how the chlorine got in from the city's water with the treatment That may be the way but could you explain the content of that sentence again? The pilot water transfer match the chlorine decay bench scale testing Showing a more stable chlorine residual Leftover in the district's sources when compared to the chlorine residual in the city's can you explain miss Menard And mr. DeFore that differential why? Thank you Join anyone else Okay, that ends the public comment period for this then okay. Sorry go ahead Thank you. I'm Scott McGillbrough. I live in live oak This has been a very good hour here appreciate hearing about the cooperation. I think it's real. I I Don't have any quarrels with anything that rosemary says even though I tell you there's water available on the north coast The permit that we have at the present time limits it to the period of November through April, but it could change I want to suggest in the spirit of moving forward here that this board Respond and let the city of Santa Cruz know Preferably in writing, but if not in writing or maybe both come to the city council meeting It's the 12th 13th of November the joint meeting of the water commission in the city council It's a Tuesday night. Okay. It's pretty soon Come and express the desire of Soquel Creek water customers to take more water It'll help us Get you more water. There is water You know, it may not be here in the models But it's here in the rivers and it's here in the Lachlan Reservoir and It isn't going to help us in the big picture to be at 90 percent at Lachlan As the rainy season starts Because we can only accept 300 million gallons We're all better off if we take advantage of the stormwater capture component of the watershed above Lachlan and Let that go down to a lesser number and I don't want to argue about the number But if we had more capacity to catch the water that's going to come Whether we are ready for it or not Yeah, I got a minute left So I want you particularly this board this group because you still are laboring under some misconceptions The conception that there is no water There is water And this water from the North Coast is going to be replaced by San Lorenzo water, so there's going to be water available one way or the other So let's get on with it. Let's get on let's figure out how to get the water through your system Taj Out to where the groundwater wells are that you're worried about from saltwater intrusion We really need to do this This water goes down the river and it goes away and it never comes back Except in rainfall someplace on the earth, so no complaints Look forward to more thoughtful work on how we can accelerate and take advantage of What we have? Thank you Okay All right seeing no one else will close that portion the public comment period And I think the city is aware that we want to cooperate and get as much water as we can As we get into a longer phase project, so I think we've sent three letters on that. Yeah, I think I think that's pretty clear But the ongoing communication is continuing so Accepting the report Yes, and thank you guys All in favor I Thank you We have coming. Yes. Thank you very much. We have a couple more things we have management update next Go back to 5.1 The page is on 75 of 148 Management report Jumping back to the management. Well, I don't want to forget. Yeah. Yeah, we should do that anything. Let's run through this Let's pull it up Management report can you go to that and who's first up on the management report regarding staff conservation? Okay, why don't you exchange and then Shelley can come up in them at last if we need to that's fine We're gonna do engineering first sure You can been busy we've been building a site over at the granite way well and We anticipate it looking quite finished in the next three weeks So you're driving in in in Aptos stop by take a look at it. The ornamental fence is up And the site is getting ready to be paved so The well pump will be going in at the end of this month We will have a little slight delay with PG&E as usual But we're hoping that we can move up the six-week Delay as quickly as we can The Warf Road main relocation that was a consequence of Our main from the 60s being too close to the sewer Sewer main is basically complete that work was basically finished today. They made the final tie in I Think paving is scheduled for Thursday. I don't have any. I mean you've received a large update on the Surface water purchase, so I don't need to dwell into that Any questions on the status report for me, I said a quick question I couldn't remember the the One two three TCP. I know you'd said the designs on everything's on hold bait awaiting a legal sediment What was the settlement waiting for? Was just our game court. I think it's just a long list that There was a resolution, but only with one minor player Right, but then there are two is it a waiting settlement with like shell and yeah, they're chow chemical. That's right Okay, all right, and apparently they're doing global settlements of some sort now 2021 Okay, all right federal court. They're not quick All right. Thank you, touch Shelly Jumping back to custom conservation custom field Additional things I wanted to mention. There's the official water conservation guide that We contributed to with the water conservation It's got a lot of great information rebates and Waterwise house calls and other services as well as a lot of information Wanted to mention was Stormwater recharge so after this report was prepared. There's been a new development We found out that there is some potential grant funding Up ahead and that a grant application needs to be Submitted by I think it's December 15th if we're going to go ahead and try and pursue those funds We're going to be bringing back to the board at the first meeting in November information about that grant and What it looks like in terms of what the district might need to contribute in terms of cash and Staff time and some limitations that we see with that and just getting your input on whether you want us to pursue those funds You can just summarize that we're going to have a staff discussion about it anyway the governor just signed related to accessory dwelling units and The ability to continue to charge water demand offset fees for those units and also some changes to Requirements, so we're going to be working on that with Bob and trying to distill what that means to us and our programs And come back to the board in November with what that looks like Relative to the grant for stormwater it would be good to know Kind of the cost of what we want to do because getting a grant for this when we have to spend that Thanks, Shelly Next would be Christine if she's Yes, I'm right here So in addition to what I have written there I as we all know we experienced our first public safety power shut off by PG&E last week and We first came aware of it Monday morning, and it was really All departments within the district came together to prepare for this and it was also Kind of an emergency action that we also experienced with our customers because we got notification out to our customers Starting on Monday with emails and Tuesdays with calls And then also some barricades signs to ask for the stage 5 water contingency Measures be enacted as You all may have heard that there were Pretty significant communication issues with PG&E, which included us I Their email and text notifications kind of left Something to be desired But I do have to say that the list of our impacted facilities that they gave us Was correct so nothing more nothing less lost power Which was very helpful for planning, although if you looked at the maps that was those were completely inaccurate I Do have to say that I think about four facilities earlier like last year and then earlier this year They had emailed us our list of sites that would potentially be impacted and That was not really what we experienced We some of those sites that were on the list We did not lose power and there were also sites that we lost power that weren't on that list So all in all at about Wednesday night around 11 p.m. We lost power to 27 of our facilities Which is 71% of our facilities And what's interesting is like 15 of those Had were not classified as being in fire threat areas at all and eight of them were in the elevated fire threat areas and Which is defined by the CPUC and then just for tier three Extreme fire danger sites were added, but there were multiple other tier three sites that were we still had power to We had a six standby generators that were operating and they all started as Expected we had previously tested at them and made sure they were topped off with fuel the days before And we had we only had to deploy one portable generator and As Rosemary mentioned that we a really big help was being able to open that inner tie because We lost power to two of our major wells in that service area one Without the ability to put generator power on those wells And then of course O'Neill Is inactive or not inactive, but we're not using that right now. So we were able to Use our McGregor pump station, which didn't lose power and then disperse that water through service area one and two So it was a really big help Oh, and then one I have to give a huge shout-out to our customers. So the We started to see a decrease in demand on Tuesday and on Wednesday and then on Thursday when the power which was out I had to double check the numbers to make sure I mean it just looked amazing, but they Our production was down by 40% on Thursday. So it was amazing several people asked me like how long could we using generators keep our Keep supplying our tanks Well, basically it's a dance of getting enough fuel to the generators. So that With this power with these set of Power outages and being able to rely on the inner tie We would be using about 350 gallons of fuel a day of diesel a day. So then so that would be basically Someone full-time running around and filling up generators different other scenarios with without using the inner tie and different pump stations that we expected to lose power, but we didn't lose power then That could have that number can go up to like a thousand gallons a day and that's Really We've got a fueled trailer that holds like 500 gallons a day We might be having to travel out of the area that to fuel up because those two gas stations would not have power But that's gonna have so it all comes down to Okay But the tanks will last a couple days It depends on the on the tank The one tank the booster station did lose power But we didn't have to put a generator there because that actually has about four and a half days of storage other tanks You'll need power to you know, we need to run those pumps every day Okay, thanks, let's see She's coming There she is I know Christine did a shout out to the customers, but I also want to just do a shout out to you during the power shut off Christine came back from vacation. So thank you I'm just gonna hit on two main items tonight The first one is I did want to introduce Skyler Murphy who's standing right here on my right He has been hired by the district to be our water resources planner He's a local from Aptos and Tom. I don't know maybe you Okay After after Going to high school here locally He went to Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo and got his bachelor's degree and then traveled down to Santa Barbara to get his master's in Environmental science. So he will be assisting the district on a full-time basis on Issues related to the community water plan and pure water. So Cal project Um Just a couple things to note Skyler did do an internship about five years ago in the conservation department So he is a familiar face to some of us here at the district and just for fun and relaxation We just want everybody to also note that he does like to do mountain biking rafting and surfing So he has a little bit of an adventurous side to him as well So hopefully when you guys are in at the board at the district office you guys can come by and see him He is sitting in the main office with us Just the other thing that I want to note is that Carla and I went to the pure water Monterey ribbon cutting event a couple weeks ago And we did talk about that at the standing committee meetings and we showed some pictures of that so that is in the packet It was a very nice event. A lot of people showed up. They had some Project supporters standing outside with signs that had said I heart pure water Monterey The pure water Monterey project is going through A development of an EIR for expansion of the facility We also got some materials that were from that ribbon cutting event What was also nice about that event is that they had some elected officials speak to talk about the project as well as project funding Sources so they had representatives from the Bureau and also from the state And the last thing I guess I did have three things the other thing to note is that Ron has been invited to speak on a panel on October 23rd in addition to Andy Fisher and also Meredith Goble To speak about seawater intrusion along the Monterey Bay is our groundwater too salty And that is a lecture series that's being conducted by the long marine lab. Thank you I also wanted to thank you guys for doing the Waterwise Academy, you know got Bruce and I got to have lunch with the people that went to that And it's just I think it's really great, you know the effort you put out and the community members put out to come and learn So so thank you for doing that Yeah, those you're not familiar with the third name Meredith I forget her life She's from Stanford University Yeah, okay, she worked on that study Okay, all right great and then Finance yeah, I'm gonna pinch it for finance and human resources. I'll start with human resources Why I think Skyler being new Greg back here who was introduced last week or water quality expert is Hired in September now, you're no longer the newest member to the team. So I just want to recognize and thank you for staying all night You can see by Tracy's report here on HR We were really fortunate to Be able to promote two of our hard-working people Justin and Eric there. So we're really proud of them and there's more work going on Back there to you know fill in positions when people get Promoted and they they really seem to be clicking so another shout out to Christine and Troy and just the way they're working there to go back up to finance Just one thing to be aware of We do have a little Cyber security train so you may see an email every now and then if you click on it And it it may warn you that you shouldn't have clicked on it and That's a good thing It's fooled all of us at least once or twice. So we're really working on that I think the main thing to note here is that third bullet item under finance 14 over 14,000 Notifications to our customer. So that's a testament to our new billing system being able to do that send out Text and phone calls just think about the time that saved from people having to do that So it's a real plus really getting that message out With banners. I know Melanie's team did some banners. We did this website. So and again I just I mean our customers Responding to our plea of stage five with you know 40% cut back like that I know it's not something they wouldn't endure very long, but they did it and they got us through so We'll always, you know, we always be grateful for them and that's another thing that that Exercise did usually we do tabletops. We take emergencies very serious, you know, it was a year ago last night I think the promo the earthquake happened 30 years ago or something but This what this does when we instead of just doing tabletop Exercises like when we have a PG and the outages it enables us to connect with our customers and interact and do it full circle So that's that's critical to really get it right. So that's those two reports and we cruise down to General manager. So a couple things there Find it on my notes. Yeah, this report caught my eye It's it's by the initiative for global environmental leadership the end of wasted water or revolution and reuse is underway It just you know, I looked at the report. It's by out of Wharton University and Suez and this initiative they have and one of the senses that struck me was I think it's the third one down They say it concludes that as a species will have to learn to use technology and political will to put an end to Wasted water and it goes on and it has it put some numbers in there I thought were interesting as far as impact to the community as far as GDP post-domestic product pretty staggering if my calculations are Correct there based on their numbers What else there's a new book I thought I was gonna order it I'm gonna wait till it reduces down on Amazon probably by a secondhand copy like I usually do Plus I got to get through my first 10 books that are sitting on my shelf the This is called trouble water and what stuck out about there so I haven't read the whole book but that I put the full book review in there and You know, we forget it says here through those scientists are still studying the health effects of too much sodium and drinking water Early research suggests it could lead to hypertension in chronic kidney disease Disease, you know, I I was in the risk assessment field for a long time And we think about chemicals like you know disinfection byproducts and things like that But just sodium it's a bad character. So we need to keep it out and it's even worse for plants It's a good little read there. You go through it. They really that book really touts Orange County in the sense that That they think where the all waters had it through that type of purification system basically the last thing on there is a guest commentary by Miles Ryder CEO of Driscoe And I hope everybody got a chance to read it It's really what we're, you know, one of the heart of the things we're all about and that's protecting our groundwater and our future And it's it's about seawater intrusion in the Bajaro and just that our region and it says there's no that starts out There's no single greater risk to the future of farms in California The single greatest risk to the future of farms in California So severe lack of water and goes on and talks about seawater intrusion being part of that. So that concludes So any Questions from the board on management report any any public comment on the management report? Thank you Becky Steinbruner. I don't particularly have a comment on management report But I wasn't given an opportunity to comment on any of the other reports made you that now Those are all Thank you. It's all one report. It's the different managers of the different Part part. Thank you very much. I understand that now. Thank you. I Have a comment and I did write your board about it in the engineering Department on the fence around the new granite way well is aesthetically pretty bad That was an issue that the we are aptos group brought before the county and the developers Because part of that Fees that design development was to relocate your well there and that was one of the big questions But there was no information that could be given in your district didn't even show up at the the board of supervisors Hearing on the complaint. So now to see it there. It is higher than even what the project Specifications say in the project Specification it says that the fence will not be will be eight feet tall and that's how tall the electrical box is it's higher than that by about a foot and a half and The concrete Foundation around it makes it a rather imposing thing. So I don't see any Landscaping plan for this and as one who has to go by it every day. I think Many people would appreciate some attention to making it less imposing. I Also want to ask about the quail run tank which says construction pending funding in 2020 2021 But I have looked on your website and it says that there was there were bonds sold in 2013 to pay for this project So I really wonder why if it's at 100% design and ready to go. Why don't you just build it? When you took the money out and debt in 2013 Also in the engineers report. I have a question and I also wrote you about this on the landscape plan for Twin Lakes Church That's a lot of plants in that little space and I granted 1916 or 19 oak trees were removed but to put in 17 oak trees and 150 other plants many of them trees. I I'm really wondering what is going on there and To say that they're native shrubs. That's not true Fortnight Lily and Australian fuchsia are not native. So I would like to do Like some clarification on that and also I find it unusual that you would pay an arborist $300 to check the quality of the nursery stock that a very reputable contractor, which I think you've gotten Bits from would would submit my last time here The water distribution model has not been done since 2014 But is required to be done every two years and it's seems to be put on hold again So I'd like an explanation about that And I guess thank you my only other question is the AMI problems with Material not being transmitted and unacceptable levels of data Unacceptable levels of data. Thank you Okay, this is on the management report on the management report I endorse every comment this time but are made every item of concern And I think you should direct your management to in writing respond to her concerns and post them and make them available for Distributed customers and impacted residents of the county. I'm serious You don't hold your management accountable for addressing things that Miss Steinbrenner and others have brought up tonight That are exceedingly relevant to you doing your jobs right and meeting your sworn duties. You won't do that. Leave the board Next is district council Yes We'll be working with Shelly this week on the new ADU bill in addition There was a case decided by the Supreme Court in the last month on Inverse condemnation It may recall I told you that there was a case in Southern California where a water district was held liable for a fire Because some wiring wasn't correct in a pump station which resulted in not being able to put out the fire And they ended up paying something like or JPA ended up paying $72 million to settle that case The Orville case that just came down from the Supreme Court Would tend to limit the inverse condemnation claims. This was a case. It was a sewer situation where the city had a requirement you have a backflow device For lack of a better term whenever a manhole is lower in this down the street Then where your house is located so that if there was a blockage and it backed up to your house This device would typically it's a ball that rises and lets the sewage go out in your yard as opposed to your house Some dentists had a Backage backup. They didn't have this ball device But they asserted that the city was responsible because the city hadn't maintained the sewer and The dentist one at the trial level and they wanted the district court of appeal and the Supreme Court said No, and they actually reversed an earlier case out of Palo Alto Saying look, it's got to be inverse has got to be the primary reason For the problem and the primary reason for the problem here is you didn't follow the city ordinance by putting in the backflow device So that may have an impact on future claims against water districts and fires So that was very interesting and that was that was the California Supreme Court Thank you, and we have one last item item 6.4 the water loss audit Yeah, and Shelly Christine Alyssa are gonna present this and as you walk up Alyssa, please come up I just want to say Something you won't get from them one of the reasons I think we were named as one of the top workplaces in 2019 as a district is because of the kind of thing you're seeing here even though Alyssa works directly with Shelly and the conservation customer service field office having the ability for employees to do cross functionality and help other Departments is just a wonderful thing in many respects and so she lent a hand to help Christine in this situation since Greg is just new at the district and that's the Carla used to do that jobs. I just want to thank you for that and both y'all for lending each other Staff back and forth. Thank you And I'll try to be quick since our last item of the night So this is just an informational item about the 2018 water loss audit And so just a little background that every year the district is required to submit a detailed report of our water losses to the Department of Water Resources for the prior calendar year and this information has been required since 2016 and It's going to be used by the state water resources control board to develop standards for water loss to be applied more widely to other urban retail water suppliers in the state in future years and This year's water audit was for calendar year 2018 and we submitted it to DWR by the deadline of October 1st and We prepared this report using the American Water Works Association methodology Which fundamentally assumes that all drinking water can be accounted for either as consumption or as loss and That that loss can be calculated using data that we collect from our system and by using some informed assumptions about inaccuracies in metering and billing and So as part of the audit process we compile comprehensive information on the volume of water from our supplies Imports and exports consumption water we use in operations and maintenance and more basic information About number of connections operating pressure system characteristics and in addition every category of information that we enter into the audit also gets a data validity score and And that is based on the quality of our information. So how well are these things metered? Tested how often are they tested for accuracy and how well do we track things? And so the results of the 2018 audit are shown in attachments one through four And overall we're pretty satisfied with our results. They do compare pretty closely to our results from the last two years And if you go to the second table on page three of the memo that compares us on some key performance indicators to our results from 2016 and 2017 and then the median value for other California urban water suppliers And so we can see that in comparison to the median we're doing fairly well on some key metrics Those really are the Kind of our the major goals. So decreasing non-revenue water decreasing water losses and accurately tracking and accounting for the water that goes through our system So the audit did identify some areas that could be improved to increase the validity of our data and those include changing the configuration of our flow meters at some of the wells and Implementation of a regular meter testing program That being said our data for these things aren't necessarily Deficient but changes to them statistically would have the biggest impact because those are Kind of our biggest values that go into this calculation for the audit One thing to note is that our infrastructure leakage index score Is which is a measure of how well our distribution system controls real loss Is below the threshold that is deemed reasonable by AWWA our value is 0.73 for 2018 and they consider anything under one to be infeasible So this is based on a national leakage survey And it's unclear how well it suited to systems in California, which tend to be a bit newer We can see that since the this information started getting collected in 2016 Approximately 28% of other California Urban retail water suppliers had values less than one Including us and the city of Santa Cruz The water loss performance standards have not been finalized, but the framework is proposing requiring additional documentation for utilities that are considered to have infeasible Infrastructure leakage index or may require that those utilities use an alternative figure that they deem to be more realistic We don't necessarily think that our data is inaccurate And believe that additional data and analysis is required on California utilities specifically before Standards like this should be set Or any enforcement measures are decided upon so we do plan on submitting a comment to the state water resources control board with these concerns and Just dropping it up Looking forward we will take the results of the audit and analyze what the Benefit is in implementing some of the changes that they suggest and We're going to be following closely the progress of the water loss performance standards And I'm setting up our processes the best we can for the next audit for 2019 So no actions required on this item, but I'd be happy to answer any of your questions Well, I just like I appreciated this report and the work that went in behind it And it's good to know that we're doing so well that any of these Regulations that the state board might put in place probably will give a pass to us because we're doing so good And that's good to know but I do it did like the suggestions from proving because you know, we can always keep getting better That's good. Thank you Yeah, I mean would we sometime during the year maybe come back with like what would it take for us to improve those things? Yeah Right at least speaking from my department's part of this the Installing new flow meters that we have that has been a proposed project for the last several years And it just hasn't made the cut. Okay It's always on the possibility list and then it was the other was the meter in accurate meter testing and that's something that is In the future for the customer service or conservation customer service field department But there's been other Priorities, but we yeah, but that seems like a good good thing to make sure they're all accurate so with With those suggestions with the data validity score go up. Is that the idea? Yeah. Yeah Our score is Well within the upper eighty five percentile of that so if Yeah, and if your data validity score ends up too high on these That's when they start to question whether your your information is Having a range between 50 and 70 is very normal. Okay, great Any public comment on this item? Thank you Becky Steinbrenner Thank you for the report. I Heard a similar report at the Santa Cruz City Water Commission and learned that old meters Spin more slowly and you actually lose a lot of revenue because of that City of Santa Cruz is looking at possibly one million dollars a year because of that So I had a question on page 145 this table has no units And I'm particularly interested in the Unbilled unmetered consumption of seven point eight nine zero I don't know what the units are and the unauthorized consumption of two point seven zero eight and Then the customer metering in accuracies of ten point zero three seven. I don't know what those there are in millions of gallons Sorry millions of millions of gallons. How do you know that because it's the numbers for our district I know what our numbers are and it's about one-third of ours. So that would be okay Could that be added to this table because it's not clear to those who are not as familiar with your material Thank you. So I want to ask about the unbilled unmetered consumption It's quite high and I remember that Mr. Stumba one of your ratepayers and I came to you multiple times and Reported to you that there was an unauthorized connection with the Aptos Village project during its construction time and Nobody looked into it It took a long time to get anybody to look into it and the construction project was using unauthorized unmetered water and I want to know if that affected perhaps your higher Infrastructure leakage index of one point zero in 2017 which was about the time that the Aptos Village project was using unmetered and Authorized water for the entire construction project for almost a year There was also another unauthorized unmetered connection in my neighborhood and It's technically Redwood Drive that had a two inch one inch to two inch pipe that was going somewhere up in the hill I suspect to a pot farm That had been there for a very long time And I'm happy to say that when I brought that to your attention it was quickly destroyed But there was a lot of water that potentially went through there So I would like a little bit of discussion about what is an authorized consumption and what is unbilled unmetered? Consumption and how do you measure that? Thank you Maxwell I endorse miss Steinbrunner's comments entirely And I'm not unfamiliar with what she's basing them on I am appalled as Somebody who you take my money for water To pay for the management here to pay for all your responsible for to your ratepayers who are like stockholders in a corporation as Well as voters and citizens you own an obligation to one of the obligations you owe is to have your monthly retained lawyer highly paid and done so Initiate an action against the Swenson construction people regarding the Aptos village project Which you also shouldn't have approved the hookup of but be that as it may Miss Steinbrunner reported to you earlier and so did others is my recollection about the Swenson builders stealing from the rest of us With unmetered unauthorized and unpaid for water And you neglected you neglected your obligation To hold Swenson accountable you neglected to direct your lawyer or your lawyer directed his professional obligations To you and the ratepayers to collect money from Swenson to confront them Why were you so negligent? Why is your lawyer failed to do his professional obligations to me and every other ratepayer? To stop Swenson from having stolen that water and to not address them having to refund the money to us all Compensate us all for what they stole from us. I'd ask mr. Boss would explain why that hasn't been done Okay, so you know they're probably comment That is an informational item only this meeting is now adjourned We do would you like to make a comment on the closed session? Thank you, Becky Steinbrunner resident of Aptos and the petitioner in pro per acting on public benefit not my own complaint Regarding an item you're going to discuss tonight case 1 9 CV 0 0 1 8 1 Again, I want to point out to you that I don't understand why The costs are so high. I don't understand Why we cannot sit down at a table and possibly work this out? I do not understand why your Attorney from best best and Krieger has to fly up every time when the Santa Cruz County court system has The court call ability For her to call in like many attorneys do from out of the area Why does she have to fly in every time? That's expensive for you and your rate peers and The four expert a hearings that I brought forth are not because I've been trying to delay things Because I've been trying to make you pay a lot of money It's because as a proper litigant. I see them as real issues One of them was the Twin Lakes Church project that was piecemeal essentially from the larger project and and Director Daniels even gave inaccurate erroneous information and defended it which your board had to then take action to Make an exception and change the law or change your your plan to allow generators at the site another expert a action I brought was about your rates that were being instituted to pay for the project that was the very is the very heart of the legal action and My last one was to Ask to vacate the very strict compressed briefing schedule that I am now being held to that was imposed by Judge John Gallagher who within minutes of Imposing the to hold those those briefing schedules recused himself because he had done so two years before when John Cole brought a case to you He recused himself then voluntarily, but he never said anything about that. I found out from John Cole quite by accident So that's why I brought this the fourth expert. Hey I'm trying to work very hard to get a fair An impartial trial that is my Constitutional right as a citizen to have fair and impartial civil due process is what you would want to So I'm not being frivolous. Thank you. Your time is up. Thank you so much