 Thank you for staying with us. You're watching the breakfast on plus TV Africa It's time for off-the-press and look at what the national dailies are saying this morning And we have Chris King day one do member of the chattered institutes of a pretreat of the traitors in the UK Was joining us from Lagos state this morning. Good morning. Mr. Chris. Thank you for joining us Good morning. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Okay I mean we're having a conversation even before we came up We're looking at the Guardian and I think something that really That jumped out on me was the fact that a basket of fresh tomatoes now is a hundred thousand from 40,000 Naira In May and then we have the 50 kg of rice now 60,000 when it was 27,000 Naira in May and so the headline here says that Nigerians growing as basic needs exceed a real income and a lot of there are a lot of things listed here We have noodles. We have palm oil. Everything is now being so expensive and here We see that 90% of Nigerians cannot afford a healthy diet What do you have to say about all of this? The prices are ridiculous at this point from May to December we're seeing like a hundred a hundred and fifty percent increase in all of these things and you know It's time for the Christmas Christmas is just in time for Christmas Day and how are people supposed to be able to afford all of these things? Yeah, on a lighter mood, we're talking about how rice those of us that grew up in the 70s How rice was not a stable food Really eat some of us those of us from the very very poor family really eats rice probably not Sunday On Christmas day Once they go out they go to Naira city and eat rice. They love rice, fried rice Party rice You know there's party jorah That's me But on the most use me That that is why when we see some people in government trying to trend NPS come out and say they cannot miss improving that's so so much good Yeah, I can't even say that all these are promises because at the end of it or whatever good thing If it does not impact you okay, but I'm reading my Just afford just the business is it see of life which is food Why don't we talk about shetha and shetha is a different because if you go into the cost of living and cost of accommodation Across Nigeria now they run affordable to many people so many Nigerians are going to arrest they cannot pay But let us even talk the busy food Food so many Nigerians are going to sleep hungry He started from one one one to one zero one To zero two zero one one two zero zero one and people like I'm sure you understand the ratio Now it is zero zero zero so many people cannot afford to eat both within the urban area And also in the village and that is a big problem. Look at the cost of price Don't forget that also that we at the time we are fighting ourself at being able to produce more Enough rice for the Niger market and also my brother is from the place we are rice cultivation Is well known and we can ask him now how many of those rice for the patient is taking And so we have a bucklake a rice. I've kept a rice And the rest of them then it was a for the book a largest and Christmas at this time But now you can see in good imported and the local rice and not a pudding price of a tuba of yam This price of a tuba of yam goes for close to about two thousand naira a roof of words is over one thousand naira And you continue to ask yourself how we Nigeria feeds That is the problem. And that is how we say this government to hit the ground running The area of grandstanding and say that we are lucky to have a problem Nigerians are feeling the things and If something is not done If something is not done something because the rich are not sleeping because the poor are awake Listen to that again. The rich cannot sleep because the poor are weeks. Let us use our phone to counteract it Hmm So, where do we go from here as a nation? Is there even any possibility that we might be seeing some relief anytime soon? And I mean from your statement saying the rich cannot sleep because the poor is awake I think what I would deduce from that is there might be a fear of insecurity at some point We've heard cases of people still in in traffic and and all of that So are we going to even get better as a nation would people feel some relief at some point? Any time soon or is this how it's going to be maybe for the next foreseeable future? Yeah, some people say it's going to be harder before it gets better. Do you believe in that for Nigeria? It doesn't have to be harder. It doesn't have to be harder These are basic things Nigeria have one of the best If you turn it from they go from Lagos from Lagos Not so if it from Lagos through or a true shagam or a to be me You see an array of vast lands green lush What that is is that those land up Nigeria is a one country where you just open the soil and drop something and So we have been well blessed by God The problem we're having is that our government is not taking up of the cost We need to invest so much in agriculture They depend surely we not only for for local consumption, but also for export Situation where we have to depend on oil oil oil oil every time is not helping matters How much is even oil in the national markets with prices is going up or is at a point also We're having the issue of so We can make so much money if you remember in the sixties Nigeria have not discovered oil in this large funding system. And you see that the regions and that is what we're talking about The construction where we can allow the various regions to be able to look at what best they have and what they can be able to do Let me give you an example the Southwest was noted for The North was noted for granite The South this was noted for cool most of the Diplomental progress that you had in the sixties and the seventies before I Was done by I'm sure you've heard of the cocoa house in Has used to be the tallest building the whole of Nigeria. It was built by the Southwest Government then on that will know for money realized for cool cool The why anyone is not at the coast city is because there's so much cold in this other and it was being It was used to be able to govern as the Locomotive all this issue of where you talk about the trains the committee and so many other Ben did not used to have the Cannot pyramid cannot pyramid. I grew up to know it because in the seventies my dad made the car I saw those pyramid. We are those pyramids Rise was in abundance. We used to have fun boy in my own Regio in my own state of the mistake we used to have fun. I as a young boy Who are knowing I know how to make fun boy if you tell me if I get the fruits now I can tell you yes, but I know how to make palm oil wish to make a lot of fun But you know that we bought from boy from China now We bought from boy from Malaysia. Do you know that we're gonna study inform me important Gary from China? There's a giant in the arena That is terrible. So what I'm saying is that government should massively To try and try as much as possible to be able to invest in agriculture make it very very Is you creative or goodness say that is just one point second point is also that most of this because of insecurity Most of our people are not going back to the farm because when they get they get kidnapped and get killed So most of them don't go they don't go to the farm again. Then don't like to reach is that even when they get this Good good to be able to move them around is also difficult One the rules are terrible. You can move moving things from the north to the south is a problem Then the second thought is they also want that is that the prices of moving them as well You know the price of well, you know how much the Elite of this so it's a multi-prime In fact, which you go may have to look at Polistically to be able to make sure that so yes, then we go to have the short-term Middle-term and long-term. They let us even start with the short-term before getting to the long-term Okay, let's move as quick as quickly as possible. I will go into political matters still on the Guardian newspaper. We have a Jail awaits those forging a career to lose signature says commissioner yesterday The headline was that there will be no prosecution for the people forging a career to lose a signature now The commissioner is saying this maybe they will come for him But just your comment generally on what is happening in on those state Well, we say it's time and time again What is happening is in this is an operation. We are a governor But almost one year Stay out of the state and say that it's going to stay from another state for your state It is never done is an aberration But it is it goes on the people of on those things possible to do and truly are represented to poor Who are the members of the house of assembly to be able to do it? If there's going to be doctrine on necessity, it's going to be fully empowering the actor the Deputy governor to not as an acting of it should I can have the power to do it? What is happening is that is it this reminds me of what happened in here? When you are there will see and all manner of things were going on in government You didn't know who was in charge the try was in charge and look at who was the age of them was in charge I saw many other Maricopa that Nigeria was on the tree for safety is happening And I thought by the truth called by the president would have saved the situation very since that is getting worse Because people that was a senior advocate of Nigeria from the state Came out to say that some people are poaching the governor's signature and trying to add to you that to please the state The commission of information quickly came out. So there's nothing like that. That was nothing like that Statements of the stratos or political or whatever But you just less than some 48 hours or 72 hours The one of the commissioners in the state came out to say yes That's the governor's Signature was fought on the document that was sent to him and it has been proven that those it's so I was talking about so I think that they need to do the need to do And when we continue to look at the stage where the president had to be tabin in the president is president of Nigeria and We have the constitution is very very clear about authority Governor had authority in state and the president have yes He might be a members of his party and rest of the pet. I think the solution might only be solved by the people who have been ghosted by themselves I had to do that already one of the president has someone Speaker and also the deputy deputy governor back to Asura to talk but the part is that we need to do the need to do the That power if the if he's seen and known that the governor is incapacitated and cannot be able to do his job The the deputy governor to be able to take over as the acting governor said and to be giving full power to run the state This cannot continue to go this way. We are just a lot less society. That is the problem Nobody respects the law we just people just do this the way they like and how they like and just Know fully where that nothing will happen to them and they will not be heard We heard I can't say what they say how can the state in who state like on the state Which all the intellectuals in that state just be on the three-pointer autopilot with that nobody in charge and since I happen I know what he's talking about. Nobody's doing it. No, but it's just quite unfortunate for me Okay, staying in political matters. Let's move over to River states in we're looking at daily trust right now and one of the headlines here says Fubara mom PDP demands fresh polls as 27 per week a lawmakers join APC, what do you think about this right now? Yes But let me say this that every politician have a right to become To any party or whatever you want But the fact is that the 1999 constitution is very very clear on the issue of the company if you had the company from one party to another It is it is wasted it and that is such on one one night So one and a G of the 1999 constitution has come in there if we are going to become from the party from the party that Got you elected especially in the executive there you are going to back at the seats That is what that that is what that session of the constitution it have been taken up in secret But there's also if there's any problem or whatever But it's never here. Well, as I said Ninety-nine constitution ninety-nine constitution as amended session one will nice of one is very clear about it So the PDP has right to write to Ina to declare the seat of these lawmakers back and transit where and if Ina accept that then definitely I'm going to be an impression a river states. We are do see it I'd be because it bet that they have to go through the meal But it's not unfortunate because we don't learn from history. It's just I trust continue to say we don't learn from history Our politicians don't learn from history Let me give you a similar another single scenario something of this nature happened in In a quiet bomb state When not when he left sorry when he left and Anointed or appointed our kids and women would want to become the governor of a pipeline state When he was elected Whatever is it And he did and he wanted some Legislature to go with him and some did and some didn't but if what you mean is that people thought that With that that goes to a party was going to take total control All and behold when the nation's we are heading late I think the second time We don't People don't know how powerful a government is deep over a government of his state is very very powerful We saw it happening in a little state. You saw the problem between Osho Moli and And and and it was his name Obaseke that force of a second out of it is another Osho Moli thought that he had A two-state under wrap for goodness me when a lesson was Obaseke has to move to PDP When a lesson what if Lord in fact, he wouldn't Osho Moli lost his local government. So our politicians should be very careful I just believe that what is happening is justified between the governor and his council But we should be very very careful It's only God that gives power and takes power Very expensive or whatever that's happening. I think God has been very very Have been very very good to me so big there was a minister. He was local government. Yeah, man It was a chief of staff Now he gave me minister again and let him not overstretch his love as it were or whatever reason I expected him to have be able to reach out with us on the ability to resolve this and make it Thank you. We are my nice doing this person. He said when he saved some people he can't And with what is happening is seen that they are giving him not power to To the government not to not establish himself and never to take control of River state PDP as it were let's see and wait and see how this pans out Yeah talking about We've talked about politics and right now we don't know whether this is tied to politics or not Accidental bombing of civilians must never reoccur to no one's army and we're just wondering if this warning is enough What is your take? The one you know is not enough on to bring boosts behind it It would be corporate to book that is really where it was because this is not the first time this has happened It has happened in time. I know that there was time that an IDP camp was also going to fall That instances of dispensary discharges by our security agencies and at the end of it There's supposed to be an investigation to now we didn't get nobody got to hear about that nobody get to know whether anybody was published Let us not say the two firework on that. Yes, I mean happen in this situation That's what you prefer the fire even the United States that instances where the United States Which happened to bomb or certain areas and in the previous This is an accident that was abhorred in Journalism we are to and we are taught that when you are in doubt from published I know you I'm sure you know that that is what we're talking in general is if you are in doubt One published no matter how the same thing should happen this ago when you are in doubt of The situation are you know that we cannot be able to verify whether these people are truly bandit? They don't need to bomb even if you say they are embedded with but it doesn't mean that for being embedded with a bandit means that you must because why do that you are going to people the And suddenly also some of these bandits also have captives they have Nigerians that they kidnapped the pig And it's within that means so if you are going to do that if you are going to bomb them just for the fun of it Then you're going to kill innocent Nigeria. Then I asked again. What is the place of Intel? The essence of every security is across the globe use more of Intel What you use that those intelligence that we do your intelligence that and getting permission on how to be able to Issues that are part of those are given intel are the villagers are the communities and rest of it So but by the end of my time to start bumping and killing them then always you're not getting it right. So Then lastly is what I was a part in the agency Relationship the problem we are having with our military that is not the agency Relationship I mean doing their own thing. Maybe it's doing their own thing. Air Force is doing their own thing civil defense doing their own thing. If there is an intelligence gathering and intelligence sharing Probably the Nigeria Air Force would have got the military. Please What we are thinking that a bandit and a bandit, please don't say and it was not it was not an aircraft They use drone if you are managing an aircraft that's possible to that before the pilot But before you say I have a second of this Guys they look like bandit. They look like a second If it's a drone, what's you send a message recalling that drone is so that is why I'm saying that Let them be very very Just go beyond just say oh, it will never must not happen again. Just let those that were behind it If my company should be punished so this Has a deterrent to others and we did that around that's engaging this kind of thing But as I said as they do have to and it's just Opportunity that we lost one two three Just like that We hope that this type of errors don't happen because when we look at a trajectory of things it has happened in time past and We hope that this would be the last one for now So let's move over to the daily independent newspaper and one here says my resolve to keep Nigeria secured Has not waned that is President Bola. I'm attainable saying that yes His his revolt is resolved to keep Nigeria safe is still right on track But would you would you think that the president is right on track right now? Are we seeing Nigeria being secured at the moment? Well, it's a double-edged sword that cut either way. Yes, it's trying his best under the circumstances Adonis reporting there might be in a way to That security nine year prove that it would not gotten is a walk in the park Let me give you a classical example report coming in this morning says that 26 people were kidnapped in Abuja F seat I'm not talking about this F city on some in the area Then another report also came in that three people four people were kidnapped in Bwari area I think it's a worry. Yes, one of the Probably also in a good job One woman and three two one of those kids Was a six month baby. That is in Abuja. That is where the president reside That is where we have the seat of problem If that is happening there then you can I might a tradition that was kidnapped. I think possible yesterday One of his age was also killed It is the same thing across but in or by in Anambra state yesterday about ten people were kidnapped One of them was beheaded. So when you put all this into context, you know, as you said that We really we need to work at this is security of course not and that's what we arise with this Because this is the year-time period and that's cramp seem to rise that much So in as much as I command the president So in that years is he's called out to be able to call the issue of the security get that was also We should have put everything in place. Yes, that's an idea and I'm in conference. We know in in in bonus states We are senior officers of land here and that is where the president Going to make that I hope that what we come out of that Conference will be utilized and they do to use There's also high level of the security also It is not just at one point security security in the south is in the north in the south-west Everywhere, there's a high level of secret and I hope that our secret agency should be able to put up But I'll continue to see the best way to be able to win this It's not just kinetics So that they can be able to pull into information that is done all over the world Nigeria's don't like volunteering information our security is because they believe that those information given we get back to be a Bandit to kidnappers and robbers and they will be harmed So if we can be able to be that kind of level that confidence between the people and the security agencies It should be a long way because most of these people that perpetrating this they believe in us people know them People know them very very well. They know them. So but they are afraid to volunteer information Believing that those information will be traced back to them. So if you can make it to beat up that confidence, then I think The ability to be able to cut this man has to be reduced Okay Sorry This one is not a question We'll just like to congratulate you because you are in Nigerian The calf awards was more or less a Nigerian thing. The whole papers are carrying it. Oh, she men became the Men's footballer of the year Africa men's footballer of the year Oswala got it for the sixth time Congratulations to her and Nadozie the best keeper in Africa and the Falcons of Nigeria Was the best team in Africa? So it was a Nigerian thing more or less. So we'd like to say congratulations to you as we are saying to ourselves as well We're proud of this Yes, it's a big congratulations there because The the charity for me is the product. This is the first time in 24 years that Nigerian is going to win that award The last time in Nigeria was in 1999 when Kanwanko and Mesakidi also Did this they put on it and the male and female And since then we are so many misses in the part that was a particular one that I thought that Teji Okota was going to be remembered as a particular edition But we thought that he was going to be Teji Okota and before you need to take it away from us. So but That is the part of it. I don't have a pet if you go to the social media What is even trending more is the fact that a Nigerian Coach and the Nigerian captain and the poma African people of the year Nigeria Voted against Ossimi. I'm sure he must have seen that. That is what he is trying to do Well, when when when when the chips were down if you read history Voted against Nigeria when it was a very critical moment. I don't want to go into that story right now So congratulations to Nigeria. Yeah, it's a good one for us. It's a good way to end the year Yeah So well, we'd like to thank you Chris for coming on the show this morning. It's always a pleasure having you join us Thank you. Thank you. It's always Having you to bring it to you. I have a wonderful day. I get married Christmas Thank you and you too Okay, Chris Kai and day one do member of the Chattat Institute of arbitrators in the UK talking to us from Lagos here. He has already wished us happy birthday Merry Christmas, why does it sound weird if you say happy Christmas? I don't know. I think maybe a merriment people just like to say Merry, Merry Christmas. What is it? What happened to me? You're eating and drinking Okay, we'll take a short break and when we return we'll be looking at our first hot topics. Stay with us