 Because I don't know if I packed enough socks. Alright, I've got the SpeedCross Fives. What does Joseph have today? Bo SpeedCross Fours. Still going man. They look good. Aw man. Some red dirt from Red Hill. We're going to Red Hill today. Not too long. Just getting some little bit of vert. And Joseph has the Fours. And for everyone out there wondering, the Fours and the Fives are very similar. There are some differences through the upper, but man they just keep going. How long have you had those? These over a year and a half. I don't wear them. It looks like a little wear and tear right through here. Yeah, all that's from rocks, you know, on peaks and everything. Yeah. All that kind of side wall I guess. Wow. Joseph's a mountain man, so his shoes get a little more beat up than a city folk. Alright. Let's see here. They're red a lot. At first online I was like, oh my gosh, that's too much red. But then once they arrived I was like, okay, that's the real deal right there. I wish I could have like the other side. She was in high school over there. Yeah, right. She jogged with it at first. Okay, I think we'll go this way. 360. Yeah, cool. And it's like once you get going, you get so fast. Nice. Oh yeah. Oh man. He's right there. He knows his spot. So shout out to Jason on Strava. I think he commented yesterday about how it's too bad. We don't have the same shoe size. What size shoe are you? Oh, that's all these shoes that are arriving at the house. I could pass them off to Joseph, but just not quite. About a size too big. You wouldn't have to buy shoes for the rest of your life. 15 races a year. So the era of Vipa running, that's all him. Oh, I didn't do that. So, all right. Oh shoot, we got to start it last for the last time. We probably went, I think it was for the start. Was that like a mile? Yeah. It's okay. So I think we got eight. Nice. We're gonna work. Baby, oh man. Just catching up on life, everybody. I think I slept nine hours last night, which is a lot for me. That was like divine, absolutely amazing. I feel so much better today. Sleep, it's critical. It's just critical. I'm trying to figure out the right balance with sleep anyway. Joseph and Mackenzie are off running errands. I'm catching up on email from all of you in Strava Post. And by the way, speaking of Strava, I gave a shout out to the wrong person on the run. It was not Jason, it was Brent. Brent asked the question, do my brother and I have the same shoe size? So thank you, Brent, for that question. Restin' on a Sunday. Restin' on a Sunday. Little banquet beer. Don't mind if I do, don't mind if I do. Cheers, YouTube. All right, YouTube, we're back. Watching football. Who just won? The Rams. Just beat the, yeah, just beat the Saints last, overtime field goal. Poor Drew Brees. And then next, we're gonna watch the Chiefs and the Pats. We're gonna talk a little bit about running with Joseph. And you know I'm doing the live streaming now. And so this is not gonna be a full on interview. This is just planting the seeds for you guys to get a little bit of background as to Joseph's experience with running. And I'm actually, I actually don't know officially how, because I think a lot of you know that I discovered running through, you know, basically because I couldn't kick a soccer ball hard enough. So, but I actually, I'm curious, because Joseph, you actually played football in middle school, right? I did, yeah, played some football. Basketball was really my main focus. Yeah, that's funny. Couldn't kick a soccer ball. I couldn't kick a soccer ball far enough. So I was like, I'm just gonna get rid of the ball. But when did you, and so we're not gonna give the full running story today. You're just gonna have to come back to the live stream for that. And we're not even gonna talk about your PRs, which they're impressive. Not gonna talk about those. But I wanna talk first, I think, about high school. So there's a lot of high school runners that watch these videos and these vlogs. Maybe you could talk about the progression of your mileage from your freshman year of high school, kind of like, you know, roughly. Yeah. And then all the way to your senior year, like what your mileage was like. Yeah, I think, I mean, mileage-wise it was really low and then it stayed pretty low actually. I think freshman year I was running maybe 15, 20 miles a week. And then by senior year I think, you know, 45 to 50 was really high end actually, probably like 40. And I think it was just really taking it more seriously throughout high school and just being more focused on it. Yeah, yeah. And I think, yeah, it's more focusing on the intensity of workouts and just being more committed to all the little things. Yeah. The mileage definitely increased a little bit, but not much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would say that we definitely both come from a little bit of a lower mileage background for everyone out there watching. It's in high school because I know that there are programs that do bigger mileage. We grew up in Buna Vista, Colorado, so 8,000 feet above sea level. I will say Joseph won state his senior year in cross-country. But then I don't want to talk about cross-country workouts. I'm curious, you played basketball all four years. I'm curious about your workouts practicing for basketball and then also, yeah, talk about your winter training. Yeah, I guess that maybe is a big difference because basketball was my main focus. I played basketball six months out of the year, summer basketball, and then of course in the winter as well. And really freshman, sophomore, junior year, I didn't really run during the winter. I just focused on basketball. But then senior year, especially, maybe a little bit of junior year too, but I would run in the mornings before school, usually three to five miles in the morning, and then go to school and then practice until usually 6, 6.30 at night for basketball. So it was like a 12-hour day of two workouts. And basketball really was a great workout for running, that high-end stuff. And really I think a lot of injury prevention type of work. So yeah, basketball was a great, great benefit for running. So I was helping coach Joseph through the winter, and I specifically remember watching Joseph play basketball, sprinting up and down the basketball court. And I was like, this is perfect for the 800, the mile, even the two mile as well. But it's perfect speed work. If you can stay healthy and not hurt yourself. Yeah, great speed work. And I think being a runner, ultimately you're just another athlete. And being in basketball just fueled my competition and everything. So yeah, I love basketball still today. It was great. And I think running in the mornings before school at 8,000 feet, I think the coldest I ever saw with windshield was negative 25. And I still ran that morning. And so it was just that kind of mental toughness and dedication that increased. And obviously between junior and senior year, it was a big jump. I went from 948 in the two mile. And then the very next time I ran the two mile, I ran 904 out in California. And so it was a big jump. And I think there was a lot of little factors, including that winter mileage and definitely basketball too. Yeah, crazy. And fast forward. So again, we're not going to get into it. We'll talk more details in the live stream about some races that he did in high school. But fast forwarding to even frankly the present, what kind of racing are you interested in now? And what is your 2019 racing look like? What are you hoping to do? Yeah, pretty much the focus now is just trail running and trail racing. Kind of other mountain goals, summoning certain peaks and things here in Colorado. But yeah, racing wise, it's really for me, I think all about the trails now. And post college, I was kind of a nice discovery to find the trails and kind of really enjoy running again. It's similar to cross country, but it's different in terms of the distances. And it's a bit slower and what not. A little more adventurous, I would say. So yeah, 2019 I think really just a few vocal races here around Aspen and Carbondale. And maybe some other mountain races around the state. So that's kind of the plan right now. We're secretly plotting for a potential race outside of Colorado. We'll keep you posted on whether it happens or not. Any tips for anyone really, but maybe especially a high schooler, any tips as they're maybe getting ready for track or like they're, you know, it's like they're, and I know a lot of people are watching that are not getting ready for track, any tip that might come to mind on any topic really? Yeah, I think it's kind of funny. It's January, but really if you want to do well in track, you got to be running right now. If you want to do well in cross country, you got to be running in May, June, July. So yeah, I love the saying you got to dig the well before you're thirsty. So even if you don't necessarily have goals right now, if you don't do the work right now, it's going to be too late. So thinking that kind of, it's hard when you're in high school and it's hard when you're busy as an adult to think long term, but that's really important. Running is basically just a long term game. You just slowly make your body adapt and stress it more and more. So I think if you can just do that slowly, you'll have more success and avoid injuries. And yeah, for high schoolers, keep it fun and have a good time. Yeah, it's a good sport. It's a brutal sport, but it's pretty fun. I do feel like as a 34-year-old that, I don't know, that I feel the strongest for sure. And I think the aerobic is still coming around. Sorry, 33-year-old. The aerobic is still coming around, but as far as overall that old man strength, it just takes time to develop the... It's not gym strength, which it's good to get to the gym, but it's just a different type of strength that you can't snap your finger. It's literally years and years of development. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I would agree with that for sure. And maybe one last question. Is there a workout from high school that... One specific... So I was helping give you some workouts, but is there a workout that you felt like really did make you faster or like, yeah? I mean, I think my, I guess, theory with workouts is they should... The best workouts gave you confidence. So I think about what gave me the most confidence. And yeah, a lot of great workouts. And I think mile repeats really gave me the most confidence. Because it was such a neat... Like for the 5K in cross-country, you could break it down to 3 by a mile, essentially your race length. And that really built my confidence on like, okay, if I'm gonna run 440s, you know, 3 times 440 or something, then I know I'm gonna race pretty well. So I think you just find things that really give you confidence, that build your confidence up. And I think that specifically we did a workout at the Grange right before Foot Locker Midwest. And I ran like 437, 447 and 431. Not crazy fast, but my PR at the time was 443. So it was just like, once again, that jump from junior to senior year was big, but then just really getting ready for Foot Locker Midwest. That really gave me a lot of confidence and was a fun workout. You were biking with me and out in Boulder. And come back to the live stream. I think we did some pretty good strategizing for racing, specifically before state. But anyway, we won't reveal the secrets now. Yeah, lots of phone calls, lots of meetings. Yeah. All right, do you, not putting you on the spot, but do you have a question of the day that you'd like to ask YouTube? A question of the day, let's see. So, you know, it's everyone's runners. I guess it'd be interesting to know, you know, kind of what's your thing in the winter if you're not into running, or how do you maybe change your running? For me, it's skiing. Used to be basketball. So yeah, what do you do, kind of what do you do in the off season that still keeps you fit, but is maybe not running? Did you hear that, YouTube? That's the question of the day. And I guess we need a keyword. Uh-oh. Putting us on the spot. You got a keyword? There we go. I like it. What is the show between two ferns? We'll be between two flannels. Keyword, flannels down in the comments. And I think we're going to close it out actually because everyone needs to rest, right? Seek beauty, work hard, and love each other. Come back for a live stream with Joseph at some point. We'll figure it out. See you tomorrow.