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Welcome to divine intimacy radio your radio haven of rest your hermitage of the heart Your monastery of the mind where we lift our hearts and minds to heaven to draw upon the wisdom of the saints to help us understand how to I don't know live in a way that is honoring to christ in this world to know the joy and the peace he has for us the freedom and the liberation And in fact today what we're talking about all this show and and as subsequent shows For for a little while is liberation which i'm pretty excited about stuff. I mean it's been a great grace in our own lives Oh, yeah, this is fantastic and for those that are subscribed to spiritual direction.com That some of them will know our guest Because uh, his articles have been posted there So a little bit about monsignor risetti Monsignor steven risetti is a priest of the diocese of syracuse He's a licensed psychologist and has been the chief exorcist of the archdiocese of washington for over 13 years He's the author of many books and articles particularly on priestly formation and spirituality He currently heads the st. Michael's center for spiritual renewal whose ministry involves exorcisms deliverance Praying and the support and renewal of priestly spirituality his recent books include letters to my brothers words of hope and challenge for priests and Born of the eucharist as spirituality for priests now those are those are a couple of recent books But I want to tell them about the one that's coming which i'm very excited about Which is the diast diary of an american exorcist demons possession in the modern modern day battle against evil You can see it there on the screen and many of you are aware This is coming because you subscribe to spiritualdirection.com and he's been writing for us there It'll be available on june 22nd of this year And so we're recording right now in uh, where when are we recording may may I let's try it's coming soon It's coming soon After those of you are listening to the recording you can pre-order with a 20 20 discount You can send a text to eight four four three one one 47 61 and type in the code get g et so that's eight four four three one one 47 61 the code is get and I think that'll appear on the screen if you're uh If you're on the live stream Monsignor uh rosetti welcome to your first uh divine intimacy radio show It's great to be with you. I've heard great things and we have mutual friends So uh, I'm excited to beat beat both of you, uh, you know dan stephanie and I hope this is the beginning of a long friendship Well, I we do have close mutual friends and and not just you know acquaintances and so I think the lord it's it's his will that we We uh come together here and I'm grateful to finally be able to meet you at least online and and I'll look forward to in person But I want to just get jump right into the topic because everybody's so interested in your life and what you do and how you serve The church and all that tell us how you first Entered into exorcism ministry well, uh about 13 14 years ago the arts diocese asked me as a psychologist to To evaluate this person who said they thought she might be possessed So so I did a psychological evaluation. I said, you know, this this woman's problems are not Psychological they seem to be spiritual and I think she should see an exorcist And so then the cardinals said great and he asked several priests Uh to do that and they all declined so I said gee, I mean she needs them up. I said I tell you what uh, why don't you give it to me? I'll do what I can and so that's that's how I thought I said how hard could it be, you know Little did you know Well, I know I figured well, you just say the right name the demons leave, you know, I figured that was that hard And uh, a little did I know I mean it was a baptism by fire and I've had some wonderful mentors down the uh The years so having blessed and fortunate Awesome father. Um, yeah, how hard could it be real? How hard, you know, it's what's funny about that? I actually It's it makes you in some sense suitable To me to be an exorcist Why because you believe right so you you you have a belief in the right You have a belief in of course your ordination and of all of the teachings of the church And so I get that I could see a good and faithful priest just going of course You know, I'm I'm I live in the name of Jesus. I live in the Christi, right? And so yes, you know, so I I think It's funny, but it's also Reveals your own your suitability for it. I think well having a military background helps too I graduated from the Air Force Academy and spent six years in the Air Force So I think you know we use the phrase spirit to warfare and it's true what you find out In this ministry it is a fight. I mean it's basically the the fundamental fight is this What that possessed people often hear is satan will say you belong to me And then and then we say no no he or she belongs to jesus Until the fight is who does this person Belong to and then in the end the person confesses their faith in the lord And then we as church cast out satan, but it's it's it's a fight It is a fight indeed So father tell us a little bit about how you mentioned that you were a licensed psychologist when you started this So how has that helped you in in this battle in this work that you're doing for the church? Well, it's helped an enormous amount I think a lot of the great work you're doing within spiritual direction you You almost unconsciously teach good psychology The great mystics and saints were natural psychologists The psyche is not Psychological over here and spiritual there. There's one there's one person. That's both psychological and spiritual And so these two things work together. And so having a good psychological background Can be very helpful and discernment also healing Helping the person to heal some of those underlying wounds Which can be places for demons to take advantage of and and to exacerbate so It's been invaluable frank And I think a lot of the courses and a lot of the great work you're doing is is helping people to Understand just natural good psychological principles. You know, it's funny. You say that uh, not fine. I mean it makes sense the So I came out of a background of abuse and suffered a lot emotionally and psychologically as a young man It was even suicidal at one point I came to christ, but My liberation came in two ways Primarily it was through memorization of scripture And some spiritual warfare routine that I developed Without knowing what I was doing really but just believing in scripture and believing James 47, you know resist the devil and he'll flee And then later when I became catholic, I would say I'm not nobody's ever. I don't know if you're ever fully healed or fully, you know, whatever but until we get to heaven But I found a whole nother realm of of living In the context of the freedom the church provides through discernment of spirits and spiritual warfare as understood by the catholic church And so I totally agree with what you're saying Is that when we built that foundation of sound spiritual practice, you know frequent Eucharist frequent confession You know connection to the the the graces of the priesthood and the sacraments Daily mental prayer and all of that That really sets the stage for us to be free. Do you do you agree with that? Is am I overstating that? No No, we we find that as I say they go together. We we we often we work in tandem We often refer people to a good catholic therapist as we heal the inner wounds It gives the demons less ability to sort of hook onto the person and As they say grace builds on nature and so that they really work together and It's I think it's one of the reasons why the lord does allow this Exorcism to be a journey rather than just a one-off thing because it's it's a healing journey And so all the way through they're healed spiritually and they're healed psychologically So at the end they're able to resist any further demonic attacks or incursions This is Dan and Stephanie Burke. We're with Monsignor Rosetti He's the author of diary of an american exorcist demon possession in the modern day battle against evil Published by sophia institute press. We're grateful for this show and we're going to have subsequent shows And and if you hang out just for a few minutes after this show as we're live streaming We'll even be able to answer some of your questions live But a father one of the things that's different about you and I think uh also father rippager Tends to be this way as well as most of the exorcists. I know desire to remain hidden And don't you know typically want their their identity to be revealed I think it's important that some are comfortable with Doing being more public. Why is it that you're comfortable? What is it a special calling you have to help people understand? well, I've always been a very public person Working with clergy and I've traveled around the world and sort of been part of my persona, you know, we're calling to To speak and to write I've written dozens of books and given Scores and scores and scores of lectures. So it's just part of what I do now I am a little reticent about the Exorcism ministry because it attracts a lot of unwanted attention at times So I don't do like sector media for example. I don't Uh, I don't get interviewed by I a wonderful program like you are sure But uh, I do keep it to catholic sources That makes sense so father You mentioned that when um, the the woman how you got called in when the woman was struggling and you evaluated evaluated her then um that there were no exorcists at the time for your for your diocese. So Is there a difference between Your authority as an exorcist and a regular priest, you know, the rest of our diocesan priests say Who are not exorcists? Is there a difference in authority? And what is the specialized training that you had to receive in order to become an exorcist? well, first of all, I think it's important not to uh underestimate and downgrade the uh spiritual punch if you will of a regular priest Because they do have authority to cast out demons And I'm just a just a regular priest the only difference is one minor difference The minor difference is that the church gives me the uh, the job the ministry Of doing solemn exorcisms. So if someone is really possessed then the church says we need someone with Uh, who is selected and trained to do this ministry So but normally anything any deliverance work a cleansing of houses oppression obsessions, whatever Every every priest can do that and should so it's just that one sliver If someone's fully possessed they should see an exorcist because not that any priest doesn't have the spiritual Wherewithal to do it but that he should be trained and and supervised for that ministry Great, uh, father rosetti the author of many good books But the one we're talking about today is diary of an american exorcist demon possession in the modern day battle against evil If you want to get it it's available in on june the 22nd. So depending on when you're hearing this show You can you can pre-order it at a 20 discount. You can text the order to eight four four three one one 47 61 And then use the code get g e t And you'll be able to get that in advance and you will not be disappointed. It's uh, he's an entertaining writer and thinker And uh, not that it's it's interesting in general But the way he writes is is very compelling and I think you'll you'll find it a real blessing to you in More ways than you probably might expect when we get back from the break We'll continue to talk talking with father rosetti mon senior rosetti about exorcism. So we'll be right back Okay, so I went to 138 or something which gives you some room to cut out the The stuff that's only related to the specific time frame for the discount and all that So, what do you want me to go on the next segment? 12 1240 or so And 1232 light 1240 is too light 13 is too long 1240 45, okay. All right very good Guys, wouldn't you know it? mowing the lawn in the background That it's fine. Just barely. It's fine father. We can hear you. No worries. Yeah Just immerse me's law. I know We've had that happen outside of our studio only about 20 times so and usually when we're recording spiritual warfare Something weird happens. So anyway, we can talk about all demons and technology thing, which is it's a huge issue I mean Doing this ministry, you know For example, I was I was exercising guys house the other day and in the midst of the thing six breakers went And oh man power and it never happens I mean just right in the middle of the exercise in which cut down the power shut off the internet So we couldn't talk to okay. We're gonna do that. So as I come back I'm going to tell a little story about my own experience and then you can talk to us about technology and all that Okay, you ready? Yeah, any markets that go welcome back to divine intimacy radio. This is danna Stephanie Burke We're with bond senior steven rosetti. He's the priest of the diocese of syracuse And he has been an exorcist a chief exorcist of the arts diocese of washington for over 13 years And the author of diary of an american exorcist With sophia's stupress gotta pick up the book. I promise you you will be enlightened encouraged It'll make you smile. Believe it or not. There's some humorous stuff there And uh, most of all it'll give you hope and peace. I think in the power of the church and the ministry of the church Yeah, I want I want to say it's not it's not frightening. It's serious material And and it shouldn't be taken, you know, um with a grain of salt I mean it he is teaching and explaining The battle that we're all in and and kind of how this works out in our life and and with some good Anecdotes of how to protect ourselves along the way So not to be frightened like there's some books that I've read on exorcism that freaked me out and I didn't enjoy them But I do really enjoy reading these articles and it's like, oh, I want to make sure I bless my you know My food every time before I eat, you know, those kind of things. So it is very entertaining very compelling Read and I think it's good for all of us to just understand that, you know, the enemy's not under every rock He's under every other rock. We should protect ourselves. So so I want to talk about demons and technology mon senior I had this experience. I won't say where but I was at a I have a friend who's the Abbas of a monastery and they were going through a little bit of difficulty there And I just felt one day it called to go and pray for them And so as I was kneeling at the altar rail Praying for them I was praying against specific spirits that came to mind of calamity detractions That sort of thing and the lights began to flicker in the place And I had never experienced that there. So I went to The abbas and and I even asked a local priest and they said that's absolutely no surprise But I've never seen the lights flicker there Any other time it is it common for the for the enemy to mess with technology? Yes, and people say they kind of might scoff and say it doesn't happen Well, it does happen. I mean the old days they messed with the lights and the tv's and all sorts of things um Now of course you're into technology people again might not believe about I actually from time to time will get texts From demons in the midst of a session and you you know it when you read these things are really ugly So demons do mess with technology. For example, we were exercising man in his house actually online and And halfway through the session six breakers throw and it knocks off the power and knocks out the internet And uh, which has never happened before and never happened since so we have a prayer now in our app We have an app a catholic exorcism dot org Uh and in that app We have a prayer to protect one's technology so often the beginning of the beginning of a session We'll ask the lord to protect this communication so we can continue with the session Yeah, and I have to say the app that you guys have developed is amazing And so I would say priest religious lady whoever out there If you want to get some good deliverance prayers, uh in a digital format on your phone Just head out to the app store and look up exorcism Or exorcist. Is that right father? Catholic exorcism Catholic exorcism and you'll find it. It's fantastic The great great gift. They put that together for us So father, uh mon senior. I keep calling you mon senior father. I know you're a mon senior and a father, but What what is the training you had to get in order to serve folks? In exorcism ministry. Can you describe a little bit about the specifics? Well, when I started there was very little available now. There's a couple courses There's a good course in uh, chicago and mondaline and there's another one in rome The primary way you really learn to do this ministry is by being supervised by a senior exorcist You know, so that's really the best way you you can learn it through the books Which is very good. You can read this stuff, but in the end It's really getting your hands dirty and having a senior exorcist walk you through with the cases And so that's what I do a lot now. I I supervise a number of Exorcists and as they're learning how to become exorcists That's very helpful. Yeah the um In terms of misperception, I don't know stuff I've run against a lot of misperception about what it's all about and How it is that you get free A lot of times father people don't realize How much how serious they need to take it and so if they have a Manifestation or difficulty in their family one of the things we tell them Even when we work with a minor work in deliverance ministries that lay lay people can participate in Is when the diocese or the exorcist tells you to do something You've got to be very rigorous about doing it or you're not you're not coming under their authority Which then precludes you from being helped as much as you could What what other common misunderstandings or misperceptions do you see? Maybe you could address both Because we have a lot of priests who watch our show and listen to our show And then we of course a lot of laity, but maybe you could address in both cases What are the common misunderstandings that both groups have? Well, I think one of the major misunderstandings is that somehow this is like a magic ritual Like we wave our hands and say some special words and that casts out the demons They can just sit there kind of passively saying okay liberate me No, it's a process of conversion. It's a healing process So the the idea is that the person has to grow in faith It's a conversion process and part of it as you suggested is being obedient being obedient to the church Being obedient to his teachings being obedient to the exorcist as we asked them to do certain things So it's it's not a magic ritual. It is a process of conversion And the person needs to grow in faith And that's what casts out the demons is their combination They're strong faith and then the power of the church that Jesus gave us to cast out demons So that's for the laity. What about priests? Do you do you find common misperceptions that priests have? Yeah, I just find that priests have don't Get get the real authority that that the lord has given to us He said it. He said I I give you authority cast out demons and you'll do greater things than I have done And so a lot of priests first of all they get frightened by the ministry They they they get that it's like they had this kind of dualistic notion like there's god and there's satan You know and this is dualistic. No, no There's only one god satan is a fallen angel and Jesus is lord And so what you will learn in this ministry is as Stephanie mentioned earlier is a great sense of peace Jesus is lord step as I say Satan's a dust bunny. I mean compared to jesus It's nothing, you know, it's just it it's just you walk into a An extra system of complete confidence that the lords and if you don't have that complete confidence Then you need to work on it because you don't really understand who jesus is Yeah, you know, what's incredible and you know dust bunny. That's quite funny I think it's st Teresa vavila calls They or maybe it was teras who said the enemy was like a dog nipping at her heels that she would just Her ankles she would just kick him away But I I think it's remarkable that a priest can believe that he speaks the words of consecration over Bread and wine it becomes the body and blood of christ. That is the greatest miracle What is there to be afraid of? What an extraordinary grace and beauty and power that the lord gives our priests. So Yeah, I we we long for strong confident priests to understand you walk in the power of christ go We need you. We just need you to go And and run with the lord. So I have a question for you speaking about Misperceptions or misconceptions about, you know sacrament sacramentals you Mentioned before we came on on air something about exorcism being a sacramental Can you help us understand the difference between exorcism and confession? And how that plays a role in helping to set someone free One of the most powerful Exorcistic things someone can do we always insist before they come to us is go to confession If you haven't been to confession, you're missing the strongest thing the lord offered go to confession that casts out demons And then of course go to mass and receive communion That's the most important if you're not doing that Then we really prank frankly. We won't we won't pray with you until you get your spiritual life in order So Then those those seven sacraments are offer sanctifying grace from the lord and open the kingdom to us There are special sacramentals Which are not sacraments, but these things the Church has given authority to the power of the church They're grace things like crucifixes holy water statues and the right of exorcism It's a it's a sacramental and so there's a real grace there That the church offers, but it's not as one of the seven sacraments Okay, and and father correct me if i'm wrong, but with exorcism and other sacramentals In essence those are used in order to help It's free the will of the individual so that then they can fight they can grow in faith They can't exercise their will to say i choose Christ i choose the lord is that right? Yes, and one thing people don't realize is the power of the sacramentals because it's the power of the church And so that's one of the things you'll learn in an exorcism when you throw a holy water on a A pack a pack of demons they start screaming I mean that is when you hold up a crucifix You don't say etch a kru chendam when a fuchsia barter adversity hold the cross of lord depart you evil powers There's a and as one woman told me she was possessed last week She said my eyes are burning looking at the crucifix Or they'll say the holy water burns them because it's burning the demons so we We uh while sacramentals are not sacraments There's a power there the church offers to us and which I think we need to rediscover Sacramentals and use them more frequently. You should have crucifixes in your homes You should have your house blessed. You should have a little holy water found your house, which I do and I Bless myself every time I walk him saint terry savabula said that she experienced that holy water She always received a notable consolation every time she used it and she saw it cast out demons We should be using these sacramentals on a daily basis daily daily daily basis You know, I I often tell this story and I have permission to tell it We've been involved in several cases of full-blown exorcism so folks even close to us wouldn't know Um, what's going on here, but we've had a possessed person attempt to enter our home And they were incapable of doing so without manifesting And that doesn't and the thing I want to emphasize is what you said. It's not because we're special It's because our home is blessed. It's because it's you know filled with prayer and normal catholic life What should be normative? Yeah pushes back the darkness, right? Right? Yeah. Yeah, very good Well, I want to tell folks again before we wrap up this episode and we're going to have more episodes so make sure You're out on spiritualdirection.com. All of the recordings will be there also eWTN radio But a diary of an american exorcist is the book that mon senior risetti has written demons possession in the modern day battle against evil And if you want to get a pre-order with 20 discount depending on when you listen to the show eight four four you send a text to eight four four three one one forty seven sixty one eight four four three one one forty seven sixty one And then the code is get And you get 20 off if you're driving in your car just log on to spiritualdirection.com or When you pull over when you pull over yeah, and you can get all that information But a mon senior. Thank you so much for being with us. We look forward to having you back on our next episode Yes, father mon senior. Can you give us a blessing before we leave? Let us pray let's ask our blessed mother to spread her mantle over us our protection The holy angels are surround us In the blood of christ to wash us clean of any evil influence And may almighty god bless us all Father son and holy spirit amen Amen So until next time may the god of peace make you perfect in holiness May he preserve you whole an entire spirit soul and body Irreproachable at the coming of our lord Jesus christ And I want to remember remind everybody to hold on and we're going to take a few questions If mon senior can hold on with us. Yeah mon senior. How much time do you have allocated? For us today. I have until 11 30 Oh 9 30 10 30. Okay, so you have a little more time. I have an hour. Yeah, great So we can do another episode jordan. You have any questions out there Okay, so I don't know if you can see it father. Can you see that? Okay, the whole ghosting. Yeah okay, uh First of all the church has never said or Or opined on the issue of ghosts. So you're welcome to believe in ghosts or not They do talk about fallen angels and that's part of our faith. So there are demons Now are there really ghosts? some exercise Believe it some don't But I would say most of the time I found that when people come to me and say, you know, finally we got ghosts in the house They don't have ghosts. They got demons and we throw them out in the power of christ Can there be ghosts? I'm open to the possibility But that's not what we we do and I would be be careful about thinking you had ghosts because you they're probably demons Yeah, I'm not I'm no expert, but that sounds rational Well, the only other thing that comes to mind is I've been reading on the souls in purgatory and how they visit different mystics and and they Were moved to pray for them and they would leave right so I think it just speaks to the power of living a godly life of pursuing prayer the sacraments Being holy ourselves and then if we have a problem Certainly reach out to our priests to help us and get our houses blessed Awesome. Awesome. All right. Well, let's go ahead and jump in to the second show. Are you ready, Jordan? Yeah, let's have folks so folks if you're out there on e2btn Our our time slot will be over there just now and You can go out to what which is the facebook page will be live stream. Oh spiritualdirection.com facebook page will live stream over there Yeah, we're going to have a second show in Monsignor Rosetti. So join us at spiritualdirection.com facebook page And it'll be live stream there. Okay. Is that work Jordan? Okay