 thing with eFap is that we'd like to go live most people think most podcasts should be you know offline edited and then uploaded but who likes effort name one person i think they're two completely different like genres i guess because you could put in quote unquote more effort and edit it and all that bullshit but then you have no audience interaction and that kind of makes up a a good percentage of the experience for me anyway oh yeah i think a podcast i think a podcast would always be improved if you were to like if we did the show today and then i was to pull it down and i cut out any awkward gaps i cut out any like uh flubs of lines or cut out parts where one of us goes and there's a way yeah all the racist things to cut them out and you know you can make a maybe a much better pace thing but you lose yeah you lose the audience interaction to a degree you can't have that we need all these crazy people in chat there's a reason they're on screen we love these people right you guys know all of their names right i know that's majority creamy sheev and edward long shanks and blizzard southpaw and theo was on eFap and james more oh yeah james some others martin luther pepe there's a lot of uh there's a lot of famous characters in there speaking of famous characters we got the blessed pikeman back on the show the legendary that was the last time you were on was with another special guest who shall no longer be named that was an interesting time i don't know if you you caught this because there was a there was like there's two of degrees like why don't you just have like cj on as well get the three of them it's like ah we can't pop that cherry that has to be kept for the special episode with wolf is here as well but cj's had two episodes you both have had one and now you you all three of you have had two which leads us to all threes we'll have the three of us host the three of you host on the third episode that you roll on eFap you know it'll be great three three the trio realize you were a commie three isn't commie three well just why do you associate commies as three communist he actually kind of was a piece of shit hate him but it's okay to hate i think jesus would have been okay with that actually hating is a reasonable thing to do but yeah uh i guess it's a little earlier than usual for me to do is you know welcome guest to ruse how are you guys doing today pizza and old man doing great things are really awesome not you you asked the guests that's true that's true you missed oh rags you missed the last two episodes of eFap i'm so sorry that you missed debating spider man something that you really really wanted to be there for i was on no i was there no words yeah i was absolutely i was there oh the spirit you you were the you were the third the three eFaps ago well we debated spider man we had a double bill of more debates no with shatter versity did you check those out i don't know if you did or not oh i um i think i started one that you promptly tipped them off i don't know no i something must have came up mm-hmm well it's hard it's harder for me to listen to eFap so i'm not part of them it's okay that's not vain that's just draw mm-hmm i i'm gonna i'm i tracked my own self as the demographic yeah yeah your favorite character in eFap is uh rags right yeah he's great yeah um i'm curious what they're gonna do with him in season four oh yeah he's uh that's that's the shtick though i think the fans usually are happy when he's more of a dick so the producers aren't sure to do with it yeah personal failings i think he's gonna have a character ox it's gonna be really good but um yeah uh you've both answered the star wars question right the sq as we call it i believe they have yeah we might we might be again see what do you think the last good i don't know what do what do we think of the next next next next next you voted for finn to be the most inconsistent character and oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i got one for vox that was oh i do you voted for po professor did i did for finn no you voted for po i think i voted po in my mind i thought po was just there wasn't much to to his character than he's a pilot and then that's it that's probably why you thought you'd be inconsistent because they'll do something with him and that's something to drive a tank now isn't it yeah because all i know is he he flies things and he really hates the empire but we don't really have much of a backstory for him and he comes off comes across as a bit of a terrorist to be fair like well do you think he's just gonna end up in his next round Jesus he is a terrorist he's attacking the the standing government he's violently trying to change policy against the standing government he's absolutely a terrorist so do you think he's gonna take up the role of uh general the world you mean no because that's toxic masculinity was po ever so yeah damn sorry yeah i forgot that he can't oh yeah damn i couldn't possibly his legs if he tucks it between his legs that might create some equality if he sits in this special anti-man spread zone yeah i'm glad we talk about these things how is your podcast going guys great british tisms how's how's it been we did one uh last week we it's been a bit hectic because snacks coming back uh i've i've had all sorts of personal problems since why i've got my fucking videos out um but we're still trying to we're doing a podcast tomorrow i believe and we will be uh i don't spoil too much um we haven't signed the nda's but fuck it um we're gonna be discussing and i think you've discussed this as well we will be talking about that shitty extra credits video oh they did so well and you become a nazi yeah we'll be we'll be covering that in fairness i learned a lot from their video did you guys not know i learned about how i'm a terrible person which is something i always love to be told you guys terrorist rule i think i lost my cue point i think i nobody liked it nobody on this earth liked that video i haven't actually seen anybody defend it no except for them saying oh looks like we struck a nerve it's like yeah yeah no that was that was completely their intention they knew whether what they were saying was absolutely just contrived nonsense they knew it was going to annoy people that's the only reason they did it for attention i refuse to believe they they they they believe in any of the points they're making because it's ridiculous i mean they could also be really incompetent it's possible i suppose maybe i'm giving them too much credit i don't know based on what i saw on twitter incompetence isn't what i'd call it insanity is that the word you're looking for ah self-righteous moral incontinence yeah that's a bit a bit spray but yeah i mean i can't speak we're not uh we don't control the podcast all that much we are just the co-host yeah we're just we're mere mere guests all the podcast yeah i know about that stream he's gotten really big over the past couple of months well he's at 175 you trying to say he's fat yeah um oh well okay i haven't seen him from the top down so who knows and who is this guy you're talking about some kind of some kind of dog guy oh shit he's in chat as well isn't he go does he follow you guys around good timing he makes oh he makes oh he makes like video essays on media yeah who does that his videos go over the five minute mark as well so whoa it's just yeah so he couldn't just he couldn't he doesn't know how to make a point is what you're saying somebody long badded me i forget how long man badded you yeah someone did oh fuck i forget who stop long man batting everybody what did they do rags what did they say i could have swore i was in our podcast talk on our discord group for us i could swear it was on there i'll have to i'll have to look it up was it about when your videos or i don't know i can't uh i wish i could so cj made two videos about the new predator movie instead of just making one like i did you don't need one video to say the movie's bad like half of it i'm not even one even though my video i think is longer than his two put together he's still stupid he doesn't matter it's just the amount of videos that matters yeah all you need to do is one per subject for example politics one video just say which is right because we all know moderation's a delusion so it should be pretty easy to that re-dose but yes uh hi cj in chat sorry we've stolen your co-hosts for a while we we like to bring a bit you know it's been a bit too american-y on on this show it's nice to you know get a bit of british blood back in here especially as you say it is too american-y i'm drinking my soothing delicious ice cold tea odd it's so good oh i'm drinking a tequila a straw is sort of like a barrel it's a food barrel that i wait are you i'm sorry is that a single use plastic that you've got there no i i use it more than you're trying you try i'll say i'll say i've got more freedom than this he's got more freedom than us let him enjoy it why don't we uh i don't just suck on the straw once and throw it away i'll use it for the whole drink there's an american bald eagle come and pick up the recycling i doubt it they both it carries in a way to the nearest recycling glass anymore i was gonna say american recycling i don't know about that we don't yeah we recycle do you glass not around here though it's too cheap to make i guess so they don't even recycle it anymore there's like it's not even worth recycling you just make so much glass recycling is just the government trying to get us to recycle that's all that is we used to have massive glass holes we'd call them and you just dump your glass in the glass hole oh wilson chas well how do you do sir wolf how what is your excuse for being in the chat but not being probably in work oh so you can listen but you can't talk loudly constantly for four hours he's so funny if he was like trying to be the podcast in the back or they'd be like excuse me sir and he's like go away the long man's bad again i want to speak to your manager sir i'm the manager i don't even know i let me get j just like stab the fucking label on here it's like you're the manager and she's like she explodes no wow he called you a megatard megatard i mean you like have oh yeah well you're an o megatard the last of the tards what did you what is it you say on your on your videos uh boxes about oh something strength hard strength right i think i've said i've said a lot of things i've said shit on the chandelier i've said tards strength uh i've said you've ever seen a retard fight man it's vicious oh well this is the thing that you know in mortal combat like each character has their benefits tards strength is like one of the better ones honestly i would uh adopt it it's like i think you have to do down right up be artistic andy on my show he's got the most when is he taking over the show i think the old dude is like he's just losing out and i just i want to hear andy's take on on most things i'd love to hear i'd love to see the funeral episode when you finally pop your clogs toss pop and then autistic andy's giving you a bit jury that'd be that'd be a good one um no spoilers um it's funny autistic andy is a fan favorite everyone loves autistic andy uh and especially the shit that comes out of his mouth like coaked up pussy is the best pussy no one really expects that from him um but uh i've floated around the idea of maybe maybe letting him have maybe one episode where you can talk about something that interests him that we'll see and i'm the star i'm the star box's productions that that's me but what if you have a heart attack uh shut up we need that episode now but then you had a clone this is going to be a very long narrative you need like a a really long uh tracking shot as well at the funeral that goes past all of the key characters from your uh cinematic universe and you need to try and make the budget beat that one shot from the unnamed characters funeral in the most recent avengers movie spoiler alert i think you can spoil it at this point oh it's tony start kills double door you know what there probably is one guy at least like just in the thousand people who watch it right there probably is one guy who hasn't seen endgame yet and is hoping that no one talks about spoilers and he's like oh i was gonna watch it today sorry guy well fucking far from home's already out like they're on to the next movie already where are you guys talking about infinity war endgame spider man is already out have you seen that yet rex yeah no i haven't no it was all right let's try not spoil a ru it then even though someone in chat i'll want to spoil it now that's right i'm gonna get a shit about that so i don't ever listen to anything they say that's i'd give it i'd give it like seven out of ten i think it was pretty good i give you a seven out of ten that's fine i'm fun like well i mean all right it's better i don't think i would you see personally i don't think i'd be happy with a seven out of ten that seems kind of that seems a little low ball and yeah i'd be like what's the problem what's the problem i mean i mean nothing's a ten ever so yeah whoa whoa whoa i've been hearing a lot about the boys lately it's just tv show have you guys seen anything about that um i've read the comic i read the comic that it was based on the graphic sorry graphic novel i didn't ask if you were a nerd i asked if you saw the tv show uh i i i saw the no i avoiding it because it feels like okay they're not gonna it's gonna be crap if you know it's good i've heard that it's good i've heard that it's good so maybe you're wrong old man okay looky do you guys do you guys separate adaptation quality from writing quality or do you think they're intrinsically tied together oh Jesus fucking hell it depends because um you you always like the original source material it's why people don't like the new star wars films because they feel they disrespect the source material which yes our films it is the source material though the new ones are the source i'm just saying the medium is different if we're comparing a tv show to a comic book then yeah there's gonna be there has to be some changes because of the medium of vision making tv shows and films and all the technical stuff and books and just things like that distilling the story to fit so if you've got like a novel and then you're shrinking it down to be you know an hour and a half two hours of screen time you're gonna have to emit a lot of information and it's that process of deciding what gets cut and what doesn't that's that's kind of important and you always as as a reader of the books or graphic novels or whatever you always feel disappointed by that one kind of image or idea from the original story that you really liked not being represented and then that that kind of gives you a foul kind of feeling from the spoilers i got i could be wrong here but someone said they cut something from the tv series which is quite in the comic book is very important and that is a blowjob a forced blowjob and i can understand why they it's more like if you want this job you have to suck my dick now in the age of hashtag me too that might be a plot element that disagrees with modern audiences so i think they have to compromise for political reasons given the climate so that's always something you're gonna have problems with i'll sum it up with a simple question if you have a terrible adaptation on your hands would it be well written what the screenplay sure it's yeah because because there's so many different areas that it could fail that lead it to as an overall package being bad but the the screenplay itself could be a good adaptation like to give you an example you just take like i'm assuming you guys like the dark knight right yeah if we just took that movie and renamed him the spider man and he was called pete park instead of bruce wane it would be like the worst adaptation of spider man in the world but would you say the film is still well written uh well no because it's not true to the the the themes and characters of the story all right it could still technically be it could technically be well made and the story could follow a structure and tickle the boxes but it's not correct so so what you're saying is you'd have the batman movie but he doesn't come to batman or maybe he does come to batman but instead he dresses up a spider man well no it's a spider man movie but it's exactly shot for shot the dark knight right okay so so pete park would see his parents get shot and that makes him want to talk with her yeah he wants to he wants to shoot people in a different way there we go yeah see you can that now that's an adaptation i can see the hollywood book the hollywood big bucks landing on the on the office table there yeah do that now gives a fuck about i think with the whole with this whole kind of like spider man multiverse thing that marvel are clearly trying to pursue it wouldn't be beyond reason to think they might do something like that one day i'm not surprised it seems with a lot of reboots when they write themselves in the corner they go uh fucking multiverse time travel yeah we set to zero every it's done so much that it's become cliche it's almost expected now it's like how can they unfuck this time travel they should bring back the uh it was all a dream plot line i think that's really grossly misunderused these days you know what the stupid thing is i could see some fart huffing pseudo intellectual you know what it does it needs to come back because it actually really subverts your expectations effect if anything it's a version you expected spider man to be in a spider man movie this subverted your expectations two and a half hours with no spider man i mean so just because again i'm not going to spend like a podcast on this or anything just just one one closing element and all i want is like a essentially a yes or no from you guys and then we'll move right along so i'm just curious what you guys think so like if you were to complain about this theoretical movie where a man a hero called spider man was doing everything in the dark night and you were like is bad because and you highlight all these contradictions would that be in the category of poor adaptation or poor writing or both or either you know i think you get what i'm saying right because where i'm where i'm trying to lead you is that i would maintain that it's still well written but it's a piss poor adaptation yeah yeah yeah you agree with that yeah that's not a great yeah all right that's it it's okay people in chat will be upset with that it's fine i just wanted to go over it quickly because i know people be like you gotta acknowledge well people in chat will be happy and sad it's a whole collection i'm just trying to say i want to acknowledge so that people don't feel like we're trying to avoid the subject but real quick right and this is the reason why i think the people of efap being me rags wolf and i know fringy definitely does a few other people as well please we we maintain the hillhouse is a terrible adaptation but a really great show lord of the rings is a great adaptation and a great movie the shining is a terrible adaptation but a great movie but a great movie doom with the rock terrible adaptation and a terrible movie is just terrible uh twilight is a good adaptation but a terrible movie you see how you can get like all four possibilities and it's yeah it just assists the conversation from our end if if we talk about it the twilight the twilight books are so bad is like they're perfect for a terrible movie you know you want to make a terrible movie adapt these faithfully okay um yeah hopefully that clears it up anyway and move to to whatever else i had planned today which who knows it's a complete mystery have you guys i hope it's a walrus with a top hat do you guys hear about how daisy ridley was at a friend's birthday party you can find an article for this apparently someone came up to her to tell her they were like hey i love to love to the new star was movie uh force awakens she was like oh yeah thank you then they said didn't like the last Jedi though and apparently daisy ridley was like can people not do this it's rude okay i'm sorry for having an opinion about a piece of i'm not even gonna say art because i nearly threw up a piece of work you were in she said something like it's rude to say that because it's her job or something and i was like no it's not if someone does a crap job then you can tell them about it well whatever she's gonna say a lollipop man is directing children into oncoming traffic you what you can't criticize it like is he made of like pops i don't understand why can't you say lollipop person you know i know the lollipop man the fucking americans oh shit wait wait yeah do americans have this old man is there a good man and he's got loads of lollipops and he gives them to kids and he leads them into oncoming traffic he sounds like a dick no he doesn't he does hand out free lollipops so so no there's there's people that uh that tend the roads outside of elementary schools and they've got a big like uh like sign on a stick that looks like a giant lollipop and they stop the sticks but they call it they carry it around you guys have zebra crossings in uh in america well what the what zebra crossings oh yeah that's right that's what you call that animal maybe zebras we call them i think we call them just crosswalks right well i was just gonna say because like the idea is like a lollipop man can essentially the lollipop man like can spawn one of those if he walks out sorry guys once i get lollipop person yeah that's what i said that's what i said earlier we don't want to get cancelled because there are lollipop waman's as well as men's so you have to collect them up i don't know if i take a lollipop from a waman what what i just probably wouldn't taste the same i want a man's lollipop i don't want a lady's lollipop the views of rags do not necessarily reflect the views of every frame of pools they don't necessarily but they do i would take a lollipop from any person maybe not actually what about us i'm a bin laden well he's dead so that'd be quite the feat i don't he was buried with his favorite lollipop he had some pretty damn good lollipops you don't know oh you just don't trust it okay one of the four things in a world not forbidden by the korean so he really really likes his lollipops what kind of middle eastern flavored lollipops could you get goat i don't know i'll go on a picture like intestine on like a i don't yeah let's see four flavored oh yeah i don't see why not try it at least um so do you guys ever hear about the legal legal video covering captain marvel um efab yeah yeah that was that was fun i didn't get mad at all uh we never actually got to cover he made a partial response in his comment section here is a link oh the lawyer guy lawyer man yes oh he's not not really a lawyer he's on youtube so i don't know how much uh we could assume but i've only watched one of his videos and he kept shilling for custom bespoke suits oh is that a problem do you hate suits now no but i'm just saying that's the content we're closed so kind of does he have qualifications in bird law bird lore like is he um well what's a what what is an ornithologist that's what they're called right yep that's an orthodontist bird artist an orthopedic someone who draws birds is an orthodontist so if just a quick refresher he basically argued that because the dawn touched her map she had full right to engage in self defense to the point of electrocuting and nearly breaking his arm threatening to maim him oh yeah that poor innocent man that she beat to near death yeah his video is absolutely insane but uh check it out he's he's made a response rags do you want to do you want to take the lead or do you want me to do it i would actually love to hear his response to all the people who hated his shitty video all right wow looks like we have some strong feelings about a fictional superhero let me stop you right there the fictional superheroes if they're a real life superheroes i don't know yeah there yeah there's a real fighter and well the heroes superheroes isn't the whole point that they have supernatural abilities yeah you can't have real superheroes tunnel trump is a superhero um let me address some of the most common comments common comments is another thing to see back to back yeah yeah yeah grabbing a map isn't harmful he says probably probably true probably true okay i like is probably true where is the map is it inside your right that's gonna say without context that depends if we pull a map out of somebody's belly then uh like they've eaten it then yeah that'd be harmful fair enough in the in the context so i ate a map he the comment is obviously made in context in this video but he's like you know in a general sense maybe maybe not you know there might be a scenario where grabbing someone's map could cause them real physical damage it's like you know saying hello isn't harmful but if you shout hello into somebody's eardrum directly then yeah that can be harmful he's got a point he says probably true but i'm mainly arguing the offensive touching point that the motorcycle guy committed battery should be pretty uncontroversial among lawyers famous cases of offensive touching include snatching a plate out of someone's hand and taking a necklace off of someone both of those are much worse than what happened in the context of the dod yeah not really a stretch to extend those cases to what happens here reasonable minds can differ though and indeed they do um so so in those cases did any of the people resort to using a photon blast in their hand or whatever um ah yes that famous case of 84 someone had their plate stolen so they blasted them in the face with laser beams love the idea of him trying to pitch this to a jury who are just giving him the weirdest looks like are you actually defending this as self-defense like they have the video in the courtroom of her doing it they're like i don't i don't he's like really you know clearly gently touched her mouth how do we know she actually electrocuted him he could be faking it he could be faking this and then didn't she steal his bike as well yeah and his clothing like his helmet and his jacket you know like in the terminator where the people say well the timid and did it you guys did have a problem with that you know the killer robot did it providing me how stupid this whole discussion was there was there was that tweet that had like over 200 000 likes or whatever that said i can't believe men are getting angry that a woman defended herself what okay um how can you justify her stealing the motorcycle he says i'm not i thought it would be clear that one crime doesn't justify another i'm just pointing out that commandeering a vehicle is a common wish fulfillment trope in action movies no you can't steal from someone when they commit an unrelated tort against you um i don't actually remember him in the video saying that it was bad i don't remember him talking about the motorcycle power i thought he avoided it because he knew he couldn't defend the gloss right over it because it would make her the villain yeah he even addressed it all right so the use of force wasn't proportionate he says i agree that's why i explicitly say that not all of the force was justified but it's not just a percentage of it um how does that even work her force was binary it would be like if i fired six shots at rags and someone goes not all of the bullets were justified it's like what she electrocutable she didn't that was it but it's a colorable moment it's a colorable argument to some force just uh but it's a colorable argument that some force was justified and i disagree with that i don't think any force was justified based on what we saw no it's ridiculous it would be insane to think that force is justified against somebody who gently touched your map to talk to you and then you offer them a handshake if you would have shoved them away that would have been disproportionate force captain marvel electrically shocks the motorcycle guy the equivalent in real life might be using a stun gun um would using a stun gun be appropriate maybe no maybe not no maybe absolutely not psa guys do not stun the stun gunner person who did what the hand on about how do you like is there a formula for figuring out the the exact proportionate amount of force to use in retaliation to his actions and no does the fact that he that he's a white man add a multiplier to that figure um yes it does you could do any you could do anything you want to a white man who touches your map so he touches your map which has a value of two and it was probably free white man off a brochure uh you multiply that by 10 so you can actually return retaliate 30 force well and that's proportionate it's not exact it's more of the principle so if he touches your map you could like steal his pamphlet or something like that you can take one of his like he crumbles your thing you can double crumple in response yeah like you can wipe your ass with it could you but then does he get to steal some her bike then no no no now it's the end of the turn if he tried that she would literally delete it do not pass go it's so stupid could she pour a milkshake on him for that you could you could try that with her but that's you know you never know what she's going to do maybe she's powered by that in fairness her powers originated from something getting splattered on her so yeah this guy's fucking ridiculous he says um thanks to the person that posted the jury instructions on self-defense in california i literally don't care about california's bullshit laws but you can argue that all three elements are met you can argue that not all three elements are met what if she just pushed him away just if i don't know i would i would still be like huh it's a bit of a strange response i think it's a bit of an over reaction yeah i would be okay with it like push him he'd fly through the air and land into building and die or something but all right uh so if i bump into someone on the sidewalk that's battery he says no because one the relevant intent to commit the touching is missing and two the touching isn't offensive or harm commit the touching whoa i don't know that as someone bumps into me on the sidewalk i could definitely say that's offensive why not he says this would never go to trial true but so what just because something isn't prosecuted doesn't mean it's not technically a crime so much to innocent to prove it guilty then fuck off whoa um she's invincible so it can't be battery and that oh my god no he didn't actually say this this is not an argument hang on hang on so so i can so crimes can go off the hook if you punch someone a thought oh i actually thought this person was invincible i i just happened to punch someone who wasn't invincible this is crazy they're mental gymnastics i did this guy pass the bar that's what i want to know okay so to the to the quote she's invincible so it can't be battery he says imagine shooting a gun at someone wearing a bulletproof vest that's okay do we need to explain how that's not the same thing we're skipping to the next one that is retarded so many ways to prove us stupid that is she wasn't physically damaged that would be relevant for a civil case but not necessarily for a criminal case the important point is the intent in the act which we view from the standpoint of the assailant he intended to um gently move from map down and talk to her i mean the whole point was that he wanted to see her face when he talked to her he's a monster being rude i if you if anyone out there ever finds yourself in a courtroom meeting to defend yourself do not hire this man hire legal he is insane he is he is can you imagine arguing that shooting someone with a bulletproof vest means you weren't trying to kill them or something like that you'd be like what i don't uh that falls under attempted murder also we're we're replying the laws of our planet onto this clearly fantasy story is there anything in the mcu canon that says that their law system is identical to our law system because otherwise this is a fucking waste of time anyway um i don't i may be in the next black widow film like it'll all be courtroom drama if someone was on the map where he touched it this happens in shazam actually i don't know if you guys have seen it but they test out shooting him once they find out he's bulletproof and having loads of fun with it yeah and it's like that would be different than shooting someone with a bulletproof vest because even one shot is gonna probably bruise them pretty significantly oh yeah but shazam's having fun while getting shot because it literally does nothing to him so this is definitely relevance to that but then also like the fact that he's they're wearing the vest doesn't change the fact that you're firing a deadly weapon at them yeah well i guess that's i realized like that's kind of what his point is that the fact that she's an invincible god doesn't change the fact that he committed battery by which he pulled her map down i don't think we should lose ground on that that's there's not battery well no because i think that a reasonable jury would be like no that is relevant the fact that she's an invincible god means that he can't really commit battery by touching a map he can't harm her he can't he lacks the capacity to harm her in any way and she knows it's on her but no no because so is it is it down to the individual strength of how much they are allowed to be beaten up for it to be considered varying degrees of assault it is definitely considered like a really tiny really tiny usually little child and then a giant fucking muscular man and you're punching both of them really hard in the face like surely yeah you'll get different results in terms of court for sure it's the same thing as if someone has that like that bone disease the guy has in um the sixth sense or not sixth sense unbreakable if you push him over being an orphan yes if you push him over he could end up in hospital for like weeks or months while if you push one of us over we go hey don't do that so like the person's state is rather the person pushing the person pushing if they don't know that does that change how they are prosecuted uh they're probably testing the person of what they aim to do and accomplish i was arguing her response she's fully aware she's the superpower god so the idea that she can go i responded in kind so disproportionately yeah it's like i responded in kind because he committed battery against me it's like you're a fucking god shut up it would be like if an adult like if a child uh gently tapped you on the shoulder and you punched him in the face yeah and then you said the child could get back and then stole his bike and then stole his bike and then ate his ice cream the little shit yeah i hate kids so innocent anyway so yeah anyway oh what a straight oh man what a terrible i don't want this person near a courtroom oh you're right he's on youtube thank god that's right he's not like actually a lawyer or anything um the only thing he's probably got a team of writers who thought let's let's let's this is meaning at the moment let's write this thing and now he's had to do some damage control because i mean a lot of people had to come together for this level of stupid it wasn't just a product of one person it was a team effort so this next bit is um calling uh tone loke tonald on twitter actually like worked he actually responded to somebody you see this i had to snapshot this is so funny so down trust right says i'm gonna be rather loud and passionate in the next video which is releasing on the channel about 30 minutes and then kuan kana said mr. totaled so happy to see you continue to make quality content keep it up man just make sure to take it easy as well don't overwork yourself and he responded thank you kuan old i don't know if he thinks it's just a meme to add old on the end of any word but i have no idea it could be both that's the magic of tonald it could be both it could be neither who knows i just i love it thank you that's how you interact with people by the way like the people that we cover regularly is to not like antagonize them or be an asshole to them oh yeah um and there's a thing you know maybe one day we can get him on here but as far as he's aware efap is hate content so we'll have to convince him otherwise dastardly hate mongers though um rimming anyway here is a link to the watch together folks we've got a very interesting video the first one today oh it's more dolphin porn no no no we do that offline i love dolphin porn stop it makes me wet so i there is the director of um jazam releases youtube videos every once in a while talking about films and stuff i believe i should have looked into this but i can't remember if he like started on youtube and thus he eventually got to like mainstream movies for himself and so he's just like chris stuckman so um the idea is he's made this video and i find what he talks about quite interesting and we'll be able to use it as a vehicle for discussion the context is obviously that he's finished making shazam and then you've got to make a youtube video so he's gonna talk about some stuff and we're gonna give it a listen i need to fill up my beverage i'll be right back that's okay the title is the problem solving of filmmaking um and then he actually has a bit of criticism for video essays at one point and it's very friendly criticism i find it quite funny actually um good shit but i guess you know we can uh we can wait oh don't worry southpaw it's it's not particularly well i guess you could say it's about shazam but he's trying to make a wider point about filmmaking in general because using shazam as an example um is going to be fun how are you guys doing did you think captain marvel was the best of all the mcu heroes so far submit it um if by best you mean um most powerful then yeah do you like it when do you like it when she learned to fly in her movie you see her movie i've not watched i've not watched it all the way through i'm gonna be honest i can't be honest oh that will stick in my head is my name is carol that's the triumphant moment i i want to speak to your manager i did laugh in the cinema when that happens i was expecting her to say so i was about to say i was expecting to say i am captain marvel but again you'd be like there's not much weight behind that because i don't even know are you a captain of anything really i don't know he was the captain of um of the particular project i think she was in here her actual like little airplane jet thing said um captain carol dab was on it it said avenger also that well i mean she kind of created the avengers i don't know if you guys knew that yeah pretty awesome she's amazing imagine if they'd given it a different name because they come up with all sorts of names for planes that are stupid becomes staying called them the anola gaze i saw that i saw the anola game all right is everyone ready for this amazing video i'm gonna take this yes i've said in the past that movie making is nothing but problem solving and i wanted to give an example of that because with problem solving you might think only of big problems like how do you make someone fly the answer to that is you get a bunch of stunt guys in blue and strap the actor to a giant tuning fork then vfx artists spent months and months painting out everything that's blue and for months you look at this shot over and over scrutinizing every pixel around shesam and you're so focused on that that you don't notice until way too late that there are crew members still in the shot standing around you know funnily enough i'm first glance in this shot to me they just look like onlookers yeah like they they are onlookers you know like not crew members though so the uh the lanyards they've got around there next to kind of make me think like hmm interesting but i could get by yeah and you know of course they would be looking at him they'd be like what the fuck is this dude doing like it's a flying shit now there's no time to paint them out there's just enough time to add some bags and a mop now they're customers and janitors it's shit i like it yeah i'm salt i guess over here is a blind and deaf convention since no one reacts to the flying man oh he's taking a shot that's cinema suits look at that fail counter film failures um infant that would even make sense as criticism because they were looking at shazab would they yeah they were clearly looking at him i you could say it for the people going up the escalator i guess but even you know they might be busy with the going up the escalator so i mean like if i had seen that i'd i'd probably be a little dumbfounded and i wouldn't quite know how to react yeah yeah i was i don't think every every human's reaction to something like that isn't going to be oh i've run away from the thing like i mean anything that would make people freeze up when there are natural disasters if there's a fire in your building people freeze up and act like people have this sense of denial to their nature a lot of the times in terms of how they actually react to potential calamities so like i don't think this is really a calamity though i think in a modern sense well i'm not saying it is i'm i'm like if you taught you things like fires or natural disasters something a lot of people think it can't possibly be real it's not what it actually is and they go back to what they were doing for contact so this guy i would say i would say you'd think oh this is a cosplayer oh i wonder what he's fucking selling it's probably one of them they must be filming something over there and i mean technically there are but yeah so in the movie at this point the bad guy the big bad guy is actually there causing drama and that's what they're fleeing from and shazam is trying desperately to figure out how to use his damn powers yes so that that's kind of the context of that shot they're not fleeing from him trying to fly as much as innocence is probably like you know tens of millions it must suck to be the the punching bag of the internet critic community like yeah we suck fine jeez acts to the flying man but every scene will have its own problems to solve no matter how simple the scene in shazam there's a scene where billy runs away from his foster home he's an orphan yeah sir's right he actually yes try to put his parents run after but got that bone density to catch up they tell the other foster kids to stay home in case billy comes back he's gonna talk about like the reasoning for why this is the way it is and then um it's it's pretty cool inside the house another foster kid is still getting ready and wonders what's going on yeah i gotta pause just in case there is copyright first but because i don't know if he's because it's his movie that he got to upload as much as he wanted or not yeah well he's also put it inside this like framing device as well of like the old he has to protect his own stuff against youtube and ironically it's probably in fairness he probably doesn't have the right to do this with it he might not oh yeah not at all yeah like i know he does fake fair use but the bot that won't stop the bots yeah you can't just say he's just like i actually made this film it'll be funny a bit we're gonna wait here for now and then shortly after the bad guy shows up spoiler alert by the way everyone oh yeah this is like three quarters of the way through the film oh well we're learning things about filmmaking it's worth i'm sure most people don't pay too much attention to a scene like this but there are some questions that could be asked like what's the point of having three of the kids run out with jackets on only for them to go back inside if we have to see them in the scene why not place them in the window and why leave the fourth kid inside the house now we have to waste time and have a character explain to her what's going on of course in the script the kids were all in the window so here's what happened the costume department came to me saying hey the kids go from this scene to the rock of eternity to the carnival so what they wear in this scene is what they'll wear for the rest of the movie and most of that will be outdoors in winter so i've seen this film and there are plenty of times they can get clothes on uh through those moments bad guy does capture them and keep them in the house but then when they go to the rock of eternity whether it's through this door and it's after the bad guys left them so they could easily grab coats along the way and you might be like they grab coats and you just have yeah they grab coats along the way it was cold um so what he's talking about here is a little bit like i don't even know that i would think it's that necessary as a big explanation for how they had coats in these scenes i just like yeah okay um but even still like it's not it's not a continuous narrative like it is broken up and there are cutaways and so yeah to think or the continuity like where did they get their coat from like i wouldn't even really notice because you're not with them the entire time so it's not beyond because i get the pale to i don't even think that i typically unless it's um something that is relevant like a sword or a gun or something like like some kind of fact yeah like the fact they have a coat i'm like they they're hotter now than they would have been there's loads of reasons for these kind of fuck ups on a behind the scenes technical scale like for example if those jackets were designer jackets they may have had some funding from that side company you gotta have these in shot because you know they're paying some of the the bills for this so they're a poor family so they couldn't be able to wear designer clothing also you could have had the why does deniers drink fucking starbucks sometimes things just go amiss and that's why you have these fucking runners empty fucking cups you could have had the villain uh the the parents leave and they're like you guys stay and it's like okay and then they just have a talk for about one minute and conclude the kids we're gonna go help find him too we have to he's our brother then cut to next scene and they've all got fucking coats on well i was gonna say they could put their coats on as the villain comes in then they're like oh fuck there's a lot of ways to assault you didn't need it to be like this is what i mean that's all but i think that's the point of this video is the everyone problem solves in different ways i suppose yeah i just don't mind the tension of this kind of thing that's nice to hear yeah and i i think this is fascinating to hear from filmmakers you know it's like oh he's the director so he could have told i mean this is in terms of the hierarchy he could have told the costume department well no this makes no sense you're fucking up my movie why why you just come to me and said they have to wear all these outfits though who says is it because you have to design extra outfits no go get back to your fucking wardrobe right that's it everyone coats on for the entire movie i don't care where you are everyone if you have a coat ready see what you've done costume department now i'm now you're sowing seeds of discontent you fuck this movie i'm gonna make a youtube video about you you add a cunt you add a cunt give me your names give me a fucking names get more coats you know what that's your job for today fuck off and get me more coats you are not fucking tell me okay i'm doing a movie i'm doing stupid i make lots of money fuck it yeah get your coat kids get your coats on little miss canty over here says you have to put your coat on vital to the plot apparently because she has to make it as a screenwriter as well yeah winter so these kids need to be wearing winter clothes well all right so you think about it here's the solution let's say the kids all put on their jackets to run after billy but then rosa tells them to stay behind in case billy decides come back now they're in winter clothes and if the bad guy shows up right away they'll still be wearing them even if and he's got his winter clothes on too everyone's got their winter clothes on check take off their clothes right inside the door but yeah maybe they were so distraught that their brother ran away that they forgot oh yeah they look so distraught let's do that but hang on this exterior location is scheduled to shoot early on and turns out we don't have faith who placed darla because she's still on another show she'll be available when we shoot the interior on a soundstage but she won't be available here well she okay let's say she was really slow with tying her shoes so she never got outside in time of course on the day you realize other shoes are actually velcro so there's no tying laces and i guess darla is just really slow in general anyway there's a reason why darla is inside and there's a reason why the kids are all sweating in their winter clothes when they're indoors it's done i guess there's no such thing as a coat rack in this house then of course leave cinemas i really don't like the fact that that's kind of i got an outreach further than their own videos you know that's a motif now i'm gonna send sometimes say something that's like oh that's a thing you know sometimes it happens i don't know i've heard about it cinema since video in about six years i only ever watched a part of efeb so yeah rack in this house then of course in hindsight you look at the movie and realize that oh yeah there's actually a bit of a time jump from the house to when they show up in the rock of attorney so you could have just had the kids show up there in jackets that wouldn't have been too crazy if they put jackets on before they went into a weird cave i mean if audiences didn't care about the disappearing backpack in lights out there's really passive aggressive this is how we didn't care about this this at least four minutes about this is about coats yeah it's autism because i know he's highlighting about problems you can have in filmmaking that's all it is it's a nice point i like to think that like after he made the film he went home and he sat there for a while and he was just like really sweating about the fact that the coat scene made not didn't make much sense and he's like i need to make a youtube video about this before someone criticizes me cinema sins they're gunning for me those i love to see uh ryan johnson making a similar video about his choices in the last year oh my god don't be so can you imagine it turns out none of it was his fault he explains like how his original script was really good it was all set problems that caused the film and then oscar isaac's turned up and he had velcro shoes on so that meant that we had to fuck up the entire film luke was supposed to be this heroic character but bark was just depressed most of the day what could you do he was depressed because he was in um annihilation he wasn't don't lie to me there he was amel no no oh right yeah i was saying mark hamill was a little sad face and that's why he was he was that in the movie ryan johnson intended for him to be heroic and shit oh well the more you know do you think you'll ever get him on e-fap oh easily amel mark amel if you would like to come to e-fap no no ryan johnson ryan johnson never fuck yourself he'd never be welcome he wouldn't if he ever he just no but yes i would happily have a bot but he would that would just never happen bring a whole scene later he'd never say never he's making a new film and that's so maybe you're like hey hey ryan i've got this podcast we discussed films and uh you've got a new film coming out maybe you'd like to plug it on our show i'd let him do that you thought it's about your film making process just just come on we've got some really friendly people we're very familiar with your work very familiar you like he like agrees i have to sign a contract to not only not say the word star wars at any point but not ask him any questions about the last Jedi whatsoever so we have to find like really clever ways but like in your history of filmmaking have you ever received criticism that you'd be interested in responding to now he's like nope hypothetically if you were to make a sci-fi fantasy movie in the year 2018 how much tit milk could a grown man consume from an alien do you think yeah he would have the answers so i bet he was he looks like a fucking mr and back packing lights out they'll surely be on board with jackets appearing a whole scene later god damn it and that's just one scene you're gonna have some sort of problem to solve in every scene but that's kind of the fun of it and when you come up with a solution that actually makes things better it's awesome but working with movies has kind of ruined video essays and here we go this is Dan point and this is kind of fun film analysis you're gonna put the finger directly you well which let's let's see who he's gonna be kind of pointing the finger i i wonder if it'll be people like us so another subset who knows let's see me because you just never know if something was part of a brilliant plan or if it just happened to turn out that way because a problem had to be solved on the day we still figured out now still your plan that you came up with wait wait just let him he's talking about something specific and then we can eat it all up day in shesam darla has a clearly defined arc early on we see her being the slowest of the foster kids which is of course the setup to the payoff of her getting super speed powers later on yeah yeah yeah yes that was kind of funny yeah so the idea that um video essays kind of had the problem of reaching so far into meaning that they can pull stuff that never existed in the first place but yeah as much as i agree that that's definitely possible the problem is you can accidentally make a meaningful story um like you know the idea that they're like she was slow putting on her shoes so that means it's like that's not enough the idea that she was sloping on it like come on like what what how is that some kind of that's not really a character either because there are there are a few occasions throughout the film where she's actually way more intelligent and quick-witted than the other kids doesn't necessarily that's not yeah um but then the so for example like i don't know if you have like all these details that match your characters are perfectly and then the director says like i don't know nine out of ten of those were complete accidents like does that make it so that they're not uh meaningful anymore yeah they're still good they still are it's that right is that realistic though like do you know we're talking about the tip of the theoretical character we're just talking about the theoretical because like this is why if you're trying to construct a rule of whatever the filmmaker intended is what we can draw meaning from i'd be like no no no no no you gotta there are so many times where you could you could uh they can you can make something good accidentally and i think that's what his point was to a degree there um and the vice versa can happen they can intend something to be one way and it turns out really awfully and then they're like but this is what i intended so the bad thing is doesn't matter like yeah yeah depends on the setup doesn't it uh in writing they you either have the chekov's gun or or the buried gun and the buried gun is sometimes writers when they write themselves into a corner they go shit i'm gonna go back through my works i'm gonna see if i've if there's something i can use from the previous chapters that i can use to get me out of this situation then they call it a buried gun because it's like a gun someone's buried in the backyard and for some reason you've forgotten about it and then you go ah they can pull this gun out in a very metaphorical sense um but it can create this thing where writers they're trying to look for a buried gun and there's and they're scrounging and scrounging and all they can find is dog turds and that's what we're having with that's what's happening with some it's a game of thrones season eight where they had a couple of those buried gun moments and they just pulled up a turd there has to you have to really think about it and set something up uh in in literature and plays and films you have chekov's gun which is if someone puts a gun on the mantelpiece sure enough they're probably gonna use that later and you've you've established that you've set it up relatively well or let the audience acknowledge it there i think a girl tying her shoes is too it's quite it's a lot of throughout civil war the captain america civil war there's there's loads of there's a running motif of standing up or standing for or standing against there's like someone made a big compilation of all the times characters stand for something or stand against uncertain odds of losing a thing one of the examples was bucky saying can you move your seat up to falcon and he's like no they're like he took a stand against bucky and it's like okay that was just a joke like i don't know but you know the idea that the director would be like uh yeah yeah it's the running machine yeah sure i think this is a problem with a lot of essay writers um some of them who subscribe to a lot of post modernism and death of the author and a lot of them like to do this reaching and and i think it boils down to this kind of intellectual snobbery ah you you didn't notice this you must not be as as red as i am no no you need to pay attention to me because i'm the pseudo-intellectual here no not pseudo-intellectual yeah not not not every director is david lynch like everything isn't symbolic and representative it's not one massive spider's web of motifs and iconography like it sometimes people just set right whatever they think feels right at the time like sometimes the door was just red it didn't mean it was a blood door of vagina doors just a red door no it's a vagina door because vaginas are like doors yes that open for my penis but the amount of reaching they do and especially things like symbolism and again it comes into that subjectivity in their feelings matters and and then they do a lot of reaching it's oh this character is focused in a golden light well that must mean they're a lesbian and you go what the fuck how did you get to that conclusion which is why yeah when they get to that degree i'm usually like okay that's like a subjective interpretation of a theme they go there's no such thing as an objective interpretation it's like there are totally references that are grounded especially some of the worst ones are when characters openly just say the thing so it's like what is the point of the last Jedi as a whole what is its theme it's like well it's that failure can make the greatest teacher and you're like how do you know that it's like you know to set it instead of being able to pick out all the parts of the stories that match it you just go yeah the character set it yeah yeah absolutely and and with that example of the golden light from someone who from a more technical standpoint for maybe a more objective standpoint they might go well actually the way this is filmed it follows the golden ratio rule and that's and that's a rule we use for making things look aesthetically pleasing and that's something that's that's instilled in kind of filmmaking and something that is part of having objective standards but again i i think this podcast will increase by an extra 12 hours if we go into objectivity and subjectivity but that's my two i just thought it was an interesting video and i just like that he kind of takes a shot at interpretive video essays there a little bit like yeah you guys kind of just make shut up but yeah okay it's all intended no yeah i completely agree it's it's it's rife a lot of i think a lot of essayists like the idea of being thought of as an essayist there's a lot of again pseudo intellectualism tied to it and snobbery and yeah they sound a lot of clout to it look what i do i'm smart this video yeah i'm a deep thinking essayist and it's like you're they you make it sound like you're this professor in a lecture hall you're a guy in your parents basement with the editing software and you've just happened to read a few books by other post-modernist wankers whose only credentials are well i feel things and i talk smart so of course the professor is advocating for paying attention to professors beyond anyone else exactly professor of what toss pot this this podcast isn't about me so uh what's next topic what's the next one is uh and this is a video a couple people sent me a once wisecrack put it out does anyone do any of you guys know wisecrack the channel yeah i'm aware i want to say i heard of it they uh they're i think they consider themselves a philosophy channel to a degree they look into media and try and explain what the character such that the content is trying to think are they the guys they have like a series it's like some alien guy who does assessments of movies as if they're like ancient relics from i think he joined wisecrack actually he wasn't a part of them at first and then he got it i've seen i've seen a few things by them i i'm not a massive fan or anything um an alien joined but you are a massive you're talking to a pizza you're confused about an alien joining a youtube channel oh i'm so fucking high so they made a video that a couple people like i said sent me because they were like what is all this about that i watched a bit of it i was like hmm this should make for a good vehicle for discussion it's titled why avengers endgame did what game of thrones couldn't be good ish yeah essentially have a good ending and i'm just like already i'm on the defensive like i don't know that game of thrones couldn't this is mostly about preparation then i guess because endgame managed to sort of capitalize on all of the points that were set up previously and that was the whole point and whereas i think game of thrones failed in some instances but that doesn't mean they couldn't have done it well because of how vague the title is you're gonna want to click it right and then you're gonna see what their argument is so let's see damn clickbait what their argument is this video is brought to you by wix check out wix ah brought to you by wix now let's let's explore that what's a wix what's up guys jared here with another wisecrack vlog it's been quite the summer it's been quite the summer the 22 film long avengers infinity saga ended along with the 73 did that ax just touch carol's hair it kind of yeah like flowed past her i guess zack count is touching but i'm pretty sure that's more that's more than a max battery or we'll be going to jail once she finds him i think that's her goal with the 73 episode long game of thrones and as i'm sure you know the two endings received widely different reactions now we've already dissected the narrative and structural elements of these two conclusions so don't worry i'm not here to beat that dead horse but i am here to hopefully rethink the problem altogether what if the game of thrones in a satisfying way was actually a dead donkey so he said what if ending game of thrones in a satisfying way was impossible that's what he said um for everyone then yeah but in general satisfy most audience members i'd say it was almost easy yeah yeah even if you just gave them what they wanted and a lot of people what they wanted sounds like it would make sense and honestly i think endgame is proof that it was almost easy because the writing in endgame is pretty tizmy but they had all of the payoffs people want to see like iron man saving everybody by dying cap fucking wielding yaldia it's just like everybody would like a giant war with every hero yeah spider man and i'm although and it's not very deep it's just when everyone wanted even though it makes sense sort of and they see although i would say that final battle scene was a little bit underwhelming for me personally i would like some more set pieces and some cool character combinations i wanted to last longer yeah oh definitely more killing actually that come to think of it has the blu-ray come out yet give it a i think a half month is there an extend is there an extended cut there's probably some deleted scenes of like piss poor cgi that we could see we're like i've seen i've seen i've seen a scene of everyone taking a knee um that that's like that was taken out of the movie which i thought was it was quite poignant moment and it was a shame that it wasn't in the film um but yeah i'd like to see more of it basically because i feel like this yeah yeah point is like about six hours long what's the easy way to end game thrones like uh what do people typically look in form it's like probably john on the throne seriously gets killed by either jame jamey or ire or ire wearing jamey's face night king is killed by john at the end probably the nearest you could probably have a loser mind over the course of losing everything and then she makes some decisions or you know this is just just tweaks tweaks all over the place possibilities is the point isn't it yeah i was i was trying to go with like the most rote expected ending but like yeah you know you can make an amazing ending if you worked really hard on it even just with one season you could do it it's just you know but anyway let's let's hear why it's not possible owns in a satisfying way was actually impossible what if the reason we love the show is the same reason it could never gracefully end to figure that out we have to understand how narrative works why it's changing and possibly discover how video games caused this whole mess uh you know that's what i mean i just like you hear him say that you're like what why do you need to okay movies to movies to uh you what why did you need to go into these topics but okay i need more information because this doesn't compute right now fucking mario's fault the game of throats is bad welcome to this wisecrack vlog on finales and obviuos didn't just die and get murdered by mario mario write that down see that just sounds like parody doesn't it like if i said that i mean it will be parody once i make the april fools video but the idea like in order to explain why game of throats couldn't possibly have ended in a satisfied way we need to go back to super mario what it's such a non sequitur isn't it like how do you get from that it's just like you could you could throw any old shit out there just like has miley cyrus is twerking caused the reboot error i personally think it's because of george foreman grills but we'll see let's let's see how this all plays out there might be that reducing grilling machine there might be a principle you can draw from it i just wonder if whatever he draws from mario is something you could have drawn from like anything that's much closer to game of thrones instead of mario but we'll find out but that's the beauty of this post modernism shit isn't it you can draw any old conclusion well you have control in a video game you can determine your own story therefore game of thrones would never like what that sounds yeah but that's what i mean that's the only rationale i can muster right now yeah and then you just pump it up with some big words yeah you punch it up with big words and yeah but that means that by that reasoning nothing will ever be good ever again because video games exist yep so what the fuck thanks nintendo yeah loot boxes ruined avengers um they're called uh surprise surprise mechanics surprise mechanics surprise mechanics i think i'm trying to think of like what would be the most bizarre things to say like if you had like a reverse you're like in order to understand why avengers end game was successful we need to discuss and you have like dexter's laboratory a bagel and then like shipping shipping manifestos let's try this let's try this let's see if we can actually come up with some pseudo intellectual post modernist politics okay so give us those three items that you just said oh what makes them what were the three oh so dexter's laboratory a bagel and shipping manifestos and we have to relate these two uh no avengers end game okay well dexter's laboratory the actual lab itself is really symbolic of dexter's internalized attempt for dominance that he can't exude in the outward world because of his physical stature oh it's a short boy which to a degree that's how banna felt about hulk hulk was much larger than life character that he could never be so he he placed himself within hulk together dexter and his lab hulk and banna yeah keep keep going just pump it up with some more all right you're to relate bagel to to end game bagels are extremely circular they have a hole in the middle and a lot of the times when we're trying to run away from our problems and our issues our fate brings us right back around to where we begin much like the circle of bagel and what we learned is what we needed to take the dive we needed to jump into the center that was where we always instead of running around our problems we need to take them head on jump through the bagel see because the bagel revolves around the middle which is nothing and once you use that bagel that bagel will become nothing exactly see see now we have a shipping manifestos shipping manifestos uh okay shipping manifesto is well ordered and it's structured much like our own interpretations of what our life should be but as we know be it through storms or pirates or mechanical failures all kinds of problems can happen in our lives and that shipping manifesto becomes nothing more than a wish and a hope of what we wanted our life's journey to be the shipping manifesto is exactly it's almost like inverting our expectations because sometimes when it comes to shipping you don't always get what you want sometimes there's something smuggled in there and with end games there were deeper themes and meanings smuggled amongst the action and things like that there's so many themes we control upon like post-colonialism as well you could there are suddenly post-colonialist themes in end games uh you know Thanos coming to our planet hoping to colonize it or take it away take resources away for just like uh colonists took away from from minorities and things like that so there are some very deep themes in end game um and the bit where Hulk dabbed well that was a typical critique of modern american culture and then bring it back to the bagel is where the bagel symbolizes a popular american culture and within that we can draw that when we consume bagels we are consuming american culture and that's marvel movies are essentially the bagel of the cinematic world we love to consume bagels we cannot get enough of them just like we can't get enough of marvel films and the consuming of superhero pop culture but we ultimately find it very fulfilling please subscribe to my patreon uh send me more money for soy milk there you go see how fucking easy this marvel is a bagel then what's dc in the in the it's a bagel but it's moldy it's a moldy bagel i mean this is just see how easy purely good material here all you need is a pretentious title um the lesson we didn't learn from avenger's end game that could be your title just make it all go oh what was the last we did and that just you know bagels obviously it's so 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wisecrack or click here to get started and now back to the show back to the show this final mario connects to come on first we should note that now back to the intro to my video fucking two minutes in now back to the show first we should note that we're talking about the difference between movies and serialized tv can you i mean there's an argument to be made the fucking the mcu is like a tv show at this point oh yeah 100 it's a serialized movie it's just the first of its kind so people don't treat it that way yeah for all we know fast forward like four years and we could be dealing with a lot of those simultaneously running you know i'm not against that at all no i'm not either so i feel like that could be cool with end game specifically i think if you were to not see any other marvel movie and just go and see end game you'd spend 90 of the time being like uh what's going on like who are these who's that what's what because it's not it's not its own thing that is tv with long overarching plots a lot game of thrones dexter sopranos etc by contrast in a movie traditionally a conflict must be presented that resolves by the there's a lot i don't know okay wait so there are there are overarching plots in the mcu obviously they're they're quite thin you know like thanuses is obviously thin up until infinity war but some of them um like civil wars big conflict is just brewing throughout the other films and then if you were to be like see game of thrones you know they don't solve problems within episodes or whatever it's like oh no there's like loads of smaller stories mid stories and then big stories you know the ones that are lasting a lot longer and like to a degree the robber baratheon story ends you know it starts and ends in season one um the story of how the kingdoms go from peace to carnage is all in season one uh i don't know if what would you compare a movie to a season or a couple of episodes i don't know we're like a mini series maybe like a short mini series you get 90 well i don't know yeah well i don't know in terms of duration but just kind of story covered and plot points resolved granos etc by contrast in a movie traditionally a conflict must be presented that resolves by the end now this understanding gets tricky not only because of art films that push boundaries but also more mainstream cliffhanger films like the matrix reloaded the hunger games mocking j par one or harry potter or the mcu to a degree i was gonna say i was gonna say kill bill yeah like the whole point of kill bill is that the bride needs to kill bill and she doesn't do the conflict is not yeah and the deathly hallows part one but for the most part cinema has largely been characterized by a conflict that prompts some kind of meaningful transformation even the interconnected infinity saga films save for infinity war have central conflicts that resolve within their well how do you highlight civil war when that film's conflict was not resolved at all they don't talk to each other after civil war yeah and the only reason that there was a conflict of civil war was because of other movies that set up that conflict so not only did it not get resolved in that movie it didn't get made in that movie either yeah the conflict is a result of conflict in other previous movies weird does it just be super mario it was all because oh so he's gonna get to that yeah of course it's like mario levels does he just mean that the fighting ended is that what he's referring to it's like the fight stopped by the end scene has eventually credits rolls yeah the credits did roll no more conflict we beat it we did it for infinity war have central conflicts that resolve within their particular installment tony stark has to stop stain and the violent cycle of arms dealing the challah needs to bring wakanda out of their isolation and defeat radicalism and dr. strange is to embrace okay yeah but wait he's sort of highlighting what i was talking about so the challah's story in wakanda is like that's not over it's an open-ended thing he's like we're about to give earth access to wakandan help we're gonna say like hey by the way we're the most technologically advanced people on this planet we're gonna help you it's like whoa what's gonna happen next dr. strange is like yeah we stopped the world from ending uh now we're gonna rebuild it and yeah you know i mean like the idea that it's like uh conflict is and it's like yeah but this is no different than game of thrones you have episode long conflicts you have a couple of episode long conflicts and you have season long conflicts and then series long conflicts can you say the same for the mcu movie long conflicts several movie long conflicts and then you think you can i guess it depends how you analyze them because i i feel like this guy is treating it as the individual antagonist yeah so obviously you've got like ultron it's like oh yeah well he's gone now so that's the end of that conflict it's like well no because that's not the entire story and i would argue that the residue of ultron's existence is in civil war he like he's a huge reason why civil war happens but also they're open-ended with the infinity stone because every single one of them that too so in some ways they're they're self-contained stories but they also had these little like like Loki threads leading into something bigger a bit like a tv series Loki is the phase one villain phase two villain is ultron i guess and then phase three is Thanos and you know Loki's story begins in Thor like the i don't know this is i don't agree with his premise i agree the conflicts are resolved in these films to a degree but like i would say that that applies to the episodes of game of thrones too badicalism and doctor strange needs to embrace the mystical in order to stop casilius and dormammu their goals reach completion unlike in game of thrones where for example Daenerys's goal to become the ruler of the seven kingdoms okay wait wait no no no that's the whole point of the entire series that's not just her yeah right so the idea that Daenerys's story begins and ends with getting the throne is pretty nonsensical she goes through a shit ton of other mini stories like getting into carth that's solved in the same episode it's it arrives getting help from carth that's solved over the season um because she eventually just plunders cough season two was yeah yeah that was season and season three had the slavers where she's freeing the slave yeah like she's got loads of shit to do season where she yeah the comparison rules over a city for a bit doesn't she the comparison with me going you see in i-man one i-man is like i want to protect the world from evil weapons and he doesn't do that until end game that's pretty bullshit oh no he still hasn't done that even no he's dead now we failed it's like oh damn yeah i don't i disagree with the framing false reach completion unlike in game of thrones where for example Daenerys's goal to become the ruler of the seven kingdoms is introduced in episode seven i wonder how big that man's dick is leviathan that level massive hey stop making fun of that's some kind of tizm racism and doesn't get resolved until many many episodes yeah because that's like the fucking series arc for her there's a couple of those the story of the whole story like the white walkers the white walkers is episode one through season eight episode three because the story they resolved it really well even though you have the hard home uh drama which starts and ends in the episode hard home you know what i mean like and you're like oh well that's not the end of the white walkers it's like no it's not but it's not the end of Loki the end of Thor but that's still the end of the conflict in Thor this is dumb i don't yeah this is really her minimum something needs to happen in a movie michael something needs to happen no disagree movie should be about things happening not it's a movie so something has to happen you can have a movie with two people have an interesting conversation i don't know like conversation is something happening oh shit well then nothing happening would basically be black screen with no audio image a malfunction is something happening right all right yeah yes we're fucked he's right he's right it's not a malfunction if it's what you intended well it's still something happening uh it's always how do you have reality about something happening though is being is being doing i guess to an extent there's a bunch of processes occurring inside our bodies right so things are happening is existing a thing happening i'd have to ask this man frozen a frozen moment in time am i being a time passes yes oh god we killed him oh no her minimum something needs to happen in a movie michael needs to become the godfather batman needs to defeat the joker and andy dufresne needs to find freedom and for a while the same standard was largely leveled at television larry curly and moe need to cause a mess ricky or lucy need to learn a lesson and the crew of the enterprise has to extricate the week for most of film and tv history it's been generally agreed that stories need a beginning middle and end but since when was how has this changed though yeah i think it's just going i think it's just tying into his mario video game well what i'm i'm confused how he's gonna find this right but you know like beginning middle and the way i look at the mcu is it goes beginning middle and beginning middle and beginning like for a whole line but then underneath that the layer below it is beginning middle and then underneath that there's an even bigger one you know like this seems to be what they're doing but that's game of thrones as well same thing the idea you know he's he's lining him up for how they're different but i'm just like no they're kind of the same actually you kind of convince me but some would say that something has changed we're now obsessed with the middle right just only because there's a longer amount of time between the beginning and the end there's more middle than anything else we're not we're not obsessed with it it's just essential i'm not sure that he's counting it correctly as well because does he consider everything between iron man one and end game the middle or does it not count or is it episode one of game of thrones an episode last episode is the middle as well like i'm curious how writer richard j allen claims that technology is eroding our oldest Aristotle story okay all right and hang on who is this person i don't know this is Aristotle no richard j something is writing about Aristotle we're just going to keep our characters in place i want to understand the argument i want to i want to know who this fucker is this is part of the greek philosophy universe you have to watch Richard j allen you have to watch the mode Richard j allen Aristotle it's we can keep tracking wasn't it wasn't it ren's reviews who said like it's ridiculous that we have to remember multiple names yeah how could they expect us to remember Richard j allen at Aristotle god stottle storytelling model Aristotle's aristo tell oj text on literary theory poetics basically boils down to suggesting that playwrights stick to one subject and focus on a shift that takes place in a character from bad to good fortune or from good to bad this structure is based on the idea of catharsis that our emotions get purified or purged when these conflicts find their resolution now Aristotle originally attributed this phenomenon to a feeling we get when watching tragedies but it's been used as a framework to understand dramatic structure writ large this is the feeling we get when after defeating his father quill says his final goodbye to yandu the easy way to put it is just that everything you saw was came to a point um something it's like something tragic happens something really great happened whatever everyone understands what catharsis i hope the opposite is when you have all of these things happen and then they just end and you're like oh all right that was fun it's having that resolution isn't it yeah it's fine emotional satisfaction yeah kind of in a way when tony sets aside his selfishness and flies the nuke into the wormhole the mode in which these plays were i love that framing sets aside his selfishness like setting aside your selfishness in that moment is your your want to not die set aside just selfishness piece of shit just kill yourself like okay assumed played an important role in the creation of Aristotle's model as allen notes the environment in which Aristotle and his peers experienced theatrical productions was daunting they were an outdoor arenas that seated 14 to 17 thousand spectators who were eating drinking and often yelling at the actors that still happens today yeah it encourages you to make a good story and not fuck up the seats were made of angry greeks will be shitting down your throat would or the audience sat on the ground oh man i'm just sitting on a stone here be awkward some pillows up in the sound in short it was not the most comfortable setting for taking in a matter of people at the top into the amphitheater sir what was that is that go ahead i'll spot are you okay no he's dead he's finally dead i thought i heard someone shouting this is the end of the story i i'm sure i heard someone shouting like shut the fuck up in the background see this is an example of how it would be paul catharsis that he's had this youtube channel for ages he's done those great guests he's on a podcast and they just suddenly randomly disappears forever what happened to you was it drugs no no well oh god it was no drugs he didn't have drugs a lack of drugs you haven't missed much he's talking about amphitheaters one can understand why again this is another tenuous thing he needs it to explain it well an Aristotle made super mario bros and listen richard j richard j bison he needs you have to understand you understand okay he's explaining it as such one can understand why Aristotle would prefer established beginnings all of this and ends if you're going to put on your sweaty toe gun schlep your ass over to the arena for some entertainment something better when is there a scenario where you wouldn't want something to happen yeah hashtag relatable i love how he's like you know they were in tough times having to go out watch these things so they definitely want something to happen it's like since when would you ever sacrifice your time for no reason you know if i go to a movie theater and it's a shitty movie i don't feel very good i had to i had to put on my well i don't wear clothes but i had to get someone to drive me out there to the movie theater sneak in and like watch a movie spend money do they not do they not do doff tickets all they do where you live okay i love that though explaining to us like back then they wanted their stories to have a point it's like yeah like fuck you for making assumptions of what the people of fucking ancient Greece wanted and didn't want you don't fucking know yeah well they just thought there was a social gathering and the play was an amphitheater of 14 000 people who were shouting and eating and drinking yeah they ironically didn't care they just went there to hang out with friends they were just like i don't fucking know the story it was just the meeting place like as if they didn't have microphones and a sound system and a pa how are you gonna fucking hear the play if there's 14 000 other screaming men and maybe women i don't know if there was women surrounding you have that they had women oh there were women in the greek times there were i thought they invented them in like the 1900s oh well it was it was a special kind of gay where you could be gay but also still have a lady i am that sounds good we need to go back i don't know my opinion in my opinion happen there better sort them to your toga imagine if i ask one of those crotchety truckers hold on this this works on the idea that the theater was the only form of storytelling what about actually just telling stories like not everyone was privileged enough to go to the amphitheater yeah as we just medium of telling stories as we just brought there's probably multiple reasons they would go to it i think he's about to make the point that somebody from ancient greece would be disappointed with dragon ball z if it didn't hit a certain block point which is absolutely fucking outrageous to say if you just showed an anime he charged it up for an anime to someone from ancient greece they would fucking lose their mind they would be in awe they'd start a new religion yes i meant something better happen there better be a takeaway imagine if i asked one of those crotchety Athenians to truck his ass out there for one of those dragon ball z episodes where goku screams for 22 minutes and nothing happens he i think he would consider that something happening he'd be like holy shit this guy like exploding look at all the colors no honestly i think i would concede he'd be interested he'd be staring at the screen like this is insane we never see anything like that before pissed fast forward to the golden age of cinema and you can imagine something similar people used to wear their best attire when going to the movies or the days of early television the audience only at society in general is more casual publicly now yeah like that's just a general trend that's been happening for a while like in the show it's just because of cinema oh okay glad we this is an educational program so i appreciate the wear clothes outside i know losers do that's you that's true and no loser am i television the audience only had a single opportunity to watch the episode so you had to sit there and watch the whole thing it was what no you could record it i don't know i guess he's talking about like really early tv a contained event and people expected the content to be similarly contained but these days the entertainment landscape looks radically different ala notes that with digital video social media and smartphones well thanks for the visual cues there i wouldn't have understood what you were talking about i'm ironically editing like that i assume they do it just to make people go oh and again he keeps creating this allen guy who from what i can see is just someone who's worked in theater excuse me his name is richard l allen well he's just greedy he wants like no i don't have one name i want two names um but i'm thinking this again is a homo person like and all they sound authoritative this sounds very uh intellectual fuck it this gives us credence it's the appeal to authority that they're doing and it's i'm sure that is he gonna mention any other critics that actually dispute this because otherwise there is this clear bias that's what i want to know and how the fuck does this fit into super mario i think i think we're getting hopefully i don't know video social media and smartphones we can now consume entertainment anywhere anytime thus as he puts it being an audience member is no longer a um did people were people stuck in the amphitheater and they couldn't leave i'm confused with us well being an audience member is no longer a temporary state well it is i'm not watching a marvel movie right now okay let me let's finish the ongoing lifelong viewing experience what okay no that's not true at all what does he mean i don't have no idea why you put a pen to paper on that and decided it still was a keeper what so viewing the viewing experience is the default lifelong and what we're doing right now just a pause what by that logic everything we do is lifelong with just pauses i've heard this argument uh film professor probably something about this like actually every time we blink that's like a cut in editing that like our life is a it's how about he was a post modernist he was so he was the biggest pomo ever so when a baby used to call it pomo when a baby is literally born is it already a viewer or does it only yes he's only the baby he's died on pause he's died on pause it's started so that's not the default state he was already a viewer but he's always from the first second of his life okay this is such a pseudo intellectual that i need someone ponder egg and going like we never really stop consuming content we merely pause like okay well that means everybody in the chat is actually just a lifelong and whenever whenever you're not streaming they're just it's just on pause sorry i'm right am i really pretentious lines here but what if what if you're the person making this stuff for the audience then are you no longer audience are you free from the almost yeah that's the only way to free yourself i know i'm an audience member i can't just i like the idea that this this video freak people out they're like oh god we're gonna stop watching stuff we're stuck i'll do anything stuck how long couldn't this apply to the greeks though could can you just be like oh every time they left the amphitheater they were on pause yeah they're there you're only living when you're at the amphitheater which is oddly enough a poster that they would distribute to get people to show up at the amphitheater because of the plethora of options that enable you to experience a story at any time alan argues that we are less conditioned to expect a definitive transformation or predictable conclusion we still get them though there are no stories that don't okay so game of thrones ended his argument only works if game of thrones just went on forever yeah in our hearts i mean i wish it didn't end yeah but his all his whole argument is alan says alan says this alan says this my friend alan says that we are all audience members and we can never escape yeah my friend frank he's a professor too and he says no alan's full of shit that's his book alan's full of shit he says yeah alan's alan's a dick have a video s a dick have a game of thrones hasn't had dig alan is full of shit or he at any time alan argues that we are less conditioned to expect a definitive transformation or predictable conclusion oh i keep forgetting that alan is his name i'm just picturing this guy just called alan you know what it was he was called alan but when the publisher was like works at mcdonald's you gotta change your name alan is just not imposing enough he's like what about richard he's like that's much better he's like you can keep alan on the end richard l alan just to make sure it's great that's the story of alan entertainment in the digital age is a completely new psychological phenomenon one he argues appeals to a much more primitive human okay okay i'm seeing a bias with alan he's pissing on digital media and works in theater he's basically saying digital age is full of shit you know we should do we should go to the theater more by the way i've got a play on um i'm also writing a book about how digital media is shit um please no one's attending my shitty plays come see them otherwise you're primitive if you're involved in the digital age you're you're a knuckle dragging neanderthal and you need to go to the theater because that's more civilized and you'll have a big boy brain like me this is just funny and don't fuck yourself and you lewitt webber's cock and do one you fucker right it's richard j alan i was saying alan he's probably got lots of essays and page twat it's richard twat alan richard j twat alan says my friend alan instincts he claims the optimal stories for the new media wait wait wait uh wilson richard alan i don't like wait was his name was his name alan and then he was like that's such an ugly embarrassing name i'll just drop the l make it a middle name and just have alan there's a lot of there's a lot of theories for this is very important there's a whole mcu based after him ecological phenomenon one he argues appeals to much more primitive human instincts he claims the optimal stories for the new media function on an extended middle or an infinite stage of development it's just not true just just because the mcu is a long-running story it doesn't mean it has a lot of stories in between same for game of thrones alan said so but alan said so we still have a singular movie are you doubting alan and you can't pause a play so you're full of shit there's so many like big movies that come out that are finished when they fucking like the idea okay so you know he's explaining it as like the big middle you know how stranger things like pretty much has an ending but then they're like hey we can make a season two with a little drop off it's like haha he's like haha so it hasn't ended so we're just watching the middle this whole time it's like no no season one has a start and end it does they just have an old sequel bait they did that like for a million years everyone does they do the fucking everything that's not the idea that we've transferred to the digital age and now need more middle what is that theory what is that it's like does he know that plays were like separated and acts and different acts might have different you know little mini plots that happen and characters who arrive no no none of it no there's no middle it's just I just want to ask him if he actually considers episode two through episode like 90 whatever of game of thrones to be considered the middle if he does it's just insane wrong wrong an infinite stage of development now certainly well how could it be an infinite stage of development if it hasn't ending it just how can you reference game game of thrones and breaking bad and they're both over he said big words and that's enough fucking allen allen poisoned this man but they love to throw in these words salad that's what it is and I don't think if you actually simplify important layman terms what you actually get is no no that's just a really convoluted way of saying this you just like to huff your own farts I like but hey allen allen said something cool sounding so he's gospel he's my friend allen he's he's great this video should be this guy called allen said this that's what this video is my friend allen direct theater yeah here's dragon ball z here's an amputee here's a bagel here's a shipping manifesto I enjoy allen gonna become like the new meme you would be a villain he's absolutely a defab villain if anything yeah hell yeah old media bastion allen pictured like this is a grumpy old man with like old man I imagine you know that simpson's uh episode and there's a clip of grandpa simpson old man yells at cloud yeah the old man yells at netflix I don't understand you why do people watch you magic screens with the moving pictures everywhere he's like he's like pointing to all of them witchcraft heresy how do they fit all those tiny people inside of that little box he's got a room full of notes and strings and shit and he's like all the furniture everyone's obsessed with the middle it's the middle the middle is to blame do you think that he can't write middle like he's really good at beginning and endings but he just can't write a middle and he's really jealous literally everything like hamburgers and hot dogs the middle itself the street allen I would love to see one of his plays if he missed out the middle it starts with a man coming home from work oh I had a long day at work and then it ends with his wife just dead and then they drink it out it's like allen allen gamethrone's ended and he's like it's just the middle it's not the end it's just the middle it could have made more well I mean yeah there's gonna be like spin-off seasons and stuff so technically they're also the middle you're saying allen isn't completely full of shit oh no don't say that it's gonna write a second book in the real more pseudo-intellectuals gulping up his farts like they're oxygen how sequels another book does that mean his first book is just also the middle how sequels turn prequels into the middle allen died from suicide because he realized the only way that he could end the cycle is just fucking kill himself I need to have an end I can't just be the middle I have to have a hold I can't just live my life as a middle man just start it's a suicide cult shit it's been incarnated I can't believe all the middle from the world he dies he goes to the next plate of existence they're like yeah you know on the end yet this is just the middle really oh no this goes on forever he's like no and this is why he likes bagels because they don't have any middle oh my god oh my god it'll make sense take us home allen kills two much more primitive human instincts he claims the optimal I like the idea that they associate what we watch these days with primitive instincts like a fucking caveman me and the whole watching fucking game of thrones like there's tv programs for idiot loon morons wrong like game of thrones you primitive with your netflix why don't you go to the amphitheater like a civilized allen allen you need to you need to calm down nobody wears like fancy clothes to turn up to plays anymore and it makes him he like looks around the cinema everyone's wearing casual clothing while he's in his like full tuxedo like oh man poor allen does this video have an ending optimal stories for the new media function on an extended middle or an infinite stage of development now certainly some serialized shows have had successful well-received conclusions but if we can what i'm sorry what shows have not got endings right now that aren't soap operas like if he's gonna reference shows that just started if he's like the expanse i feel like it's not even fair they haven't finished this story yet isn't like every story that isn't finished is currently the middle yeah that's so stupid oh no it's infinite you know the only thing i think this applies to it goes on indefinitely the only thing i think this actually applies to is the one example he's saying it doesn't apply to which is the MCU the idea with the MCU being that i don't think they'll ever let it die i think they'll keep it going forever even if they run out of stories to tell while something like break in bad they were like no it ends at sea i'm pretty sure they plan to end it at season five from a decent chunk while back game of thrones they wanted it how season they wanted it to be three or four seasons i think but because it got really popular they got basically forced to stretch it out which is what happened to breaking bad but like every tv show that has ever finished according to this guy it was like it was just going on forever right up until they made their last season that he was like oh well now that okay this is really stupid way to look at it but okay allen whatever does he just assume that every show will never end until it does end it shocks him and surprises him i think he would honestly say like he'd be like no show's ever had you go this one it's like not that one obviously you go what about this one yeah not that one either you're like what is the okay our modern sensibilities man you know and again the only thing this applies to i think is the MCU but he's saying it doesn't apply to the MCU so consider the failure of shows like dexter true blood lost the soprano they all ended okay the failures of the sopranos excuse me some people didn't like how some people didn't like the ending here okay so people i'm sure there were some people who weren't happy with breaking bad like absolutely it's not a hundred percent pleased everyone Walter should have been captain what's his point here though i'm sorry but sopranos should not be included with dexter and lost and true blood is he about to argue that they they're the fact that they ended was the disappointing part is that what he's trying to say because it's not that it's the writing it's not the fact that they ended people okay with endings i hate the idea that people can't take an ending people like it he just argued about catharsis there's a whole reason we like endings knows and of course game of thrones to reach a satisfying end we can start to understand what we mean by our fixation on the extended middle in game of thrones the highly praised early seasons introduced a vast and cruel world of real politic and also planted tons of little plots that as the show went on began to sprout and grow there were occasional cathartic moments but the real honey oh so there was there was a thing that damages your whole argument but if we just ignore that if we just ignore all of the lines that close there was some there was some of that but we're not going to talk about so stupid the idea that like earth is just the middle that's all that we do it's just the middle life we stood the big bag was the beginning and it's just been the middle since then okay and it will always be the middle forever until it's not the middle anymore yeah what is the point of this discussion it was useless way to look at a story ever and it's and it's also feelings based if this ending wasn't satisfactory so that ties into my point even though some people may have been satisfied by ending these moments were cathartic um but they weren't cathartic to me i i felt these these scenes these big scenes were more cathartic and and so they don't count can you imagine forcing alan to watch malcolm in the middle you're like no malcolm the dark god of the middle does he ever escape the middle like it's not how it ends it's like it doesn't end alan it's still going alan began to sprout and grow there were occasional cathartic moments but the real honeymoon for viewers was this stage of perpetual development the more we watched the more invested we became in this process we ravenously consumed episode after episode yeah because it was good and people liked it yeah it's all written so no you ravenously and the whole you ravenously yeah that's why i used that word it's like yeah wasn't the case we all we're all audience members we can't pause this ever we have to watch episode after episode until we're free i can't get over the does he realize the red wedding was a severe full stop for a large portion of the characters in season three it was the end of their story it did that wasn't their middle and the implication by the way just because game of thrones ended in season eight doesn't mean it couldn't have continued we could have seen what happens next said living breathing will there is no story that couldn't necessarily be continued if we're to believe it was a very well reason yeah that's true for every single story unless there's some cat like catastrophic unless there's some reality ending then everything is just the middle yeah the entire cosmos just ceases to mean if he describes end game as the end i'll be like well no it's kind of the middle this is gonna be it is because there's gonna be more there's we already have more we got far from home already we got all these films a bit of now it's like yeah the end game is not the end but it is the end for several characters it's the end of phase three it's the end of the like original team of avengers like yeah you know there's lots of this is what i mean about the nuance to it just like either it's a start a middle or an end it's like no i mean i don't know what else that leads us with i think you could simultaneously have a end game is both the end of x and the beginning of y you know yeah 100 things are kind of all relative to what you're examining watched the more invested we became in this process we ravenously consumed episode after episode non-conflicts i agree more about denaris and enabled us to get to know her for instance cynic learning more about her enabled us to get to know it yeah wait it's not playing the watch together for me oh he just said learning more about denaris allowed us to get to know it better oh like yeah that follows i guess i could agree with that you are you back in nor um it's just pa yeah we're at 752 revealed more about denaris and enabled us to get to know her better from her time with call drogo to her conquest of slavers bay to her love affair with john well wait i thought you said the there were no like you know moments where we got conclusions are any things because it's only the beginning and end for her there's no middle oh it's all middle they don't count they don't count when she conquered slavers bay that wasn't a conclusive ending to that storyline nope wasn't cathartic enough wasn't cathartic enough i mean i guess he could make the argument that it's not because it gets it gets liberated again but that's kind of my whole point about how yeah because no story necessarily is ended technically speaking it could always continue such a weird metric as the show went on the politics got more complex and we wanted to dive deeper i wouldn't necessarily argue it got more complex so it starts so they started chopping everything down killing everybody to get like three plot lines left deeper into the nooks and crannies of the world the show teased us with revelations about the night king and we felt like we were getting closer to something concrete it introduced us to new institutions like the iron bank of bravos and we felt like we were moving closer to a complete understanding of the world the golden age of the show was one in which any catharsis any finality is perpetually delayed that's not true there are loads of endings he's actually referencing one right now no nope it's all middle so you got tirion is in prison because he's been framed for the murder of a king and he is ordered a trial by combat in which the mountain is going to battle his chosen champion one of them dies resulting in tirion being damned to death this is a that that is you see how season he spends most of it in jail this is like the climax to his storyline you're like oh god you're gonna die death is only the middle yeah i would i mean we'll probably revisit this point later but the thing is with if you have something running for too long if if he's saying that we were so used to the middle and living in the moment those highs and lows people do get fatigued like if a tv series runs for too long we stay too long in that middle people get bored of it that's why we like having an ending and a conclusion and my my my whole argument is if breaking by season six came out and it's all about jesse trying to rebuild his life breaking by season five becomes the middle to this guy no he's insane so after the fact it becomes bad yeah and well not necessarily bad he's saying that neanderthals like it so yeah what about what about those people his story in the example of breaking bad obviously that's the story following walter white he's the main protagonist well and tag prantag or whatever he's pretty exposed he's kind of like the bad good guy um and when his story ends the story is over you can always spin it off and start focusing from someone else's perspective because the earth still exists with people on it you could still there's still plenty of characters that we know left um semantic dragon said ah yes obern is about to meet the middle of his life are you afraid of middle marvel films were always built on a foundation of beginning middle and that's not true at all the first one ends with by the way this is gonna be way more of these and then the rest of them like made fun of constantly for setting up the next one that's what the marvel movies do that's what they're famous for now is that they're constantly what he would call middles even end game is a middle this is what i mean i don't understand this guy's argument whatsoever because i would actually defend the mcu if someone said to me you never get much catharsis because of the fact that the story never seems to come to a conclusion i'd be like oh that's not true you get plenty of story lines that reach conclusions well yeah this this whole thing is a mess i don't understand this argument at all this argument is not absolute mess and the only thing i reason i think this was made is because what's topic at the moment avengers end game gamathrones slap that into the title throwing the usual postmodernist bollocks research allen's work to figure out something to say i don't know something that sounds authoritative yeah um sticking the ad for that um chinese piano lessons there we go that's a wrap this is such low effort it's awful it reminds me of uh adam curtis documentaries i don't know if you've ever seen one of them but he he's an sas and lots of postmodernist love him but his problem is he makes a point and he goes on these wild little tangents to try and fit back to his rich point and they make no sense he'll talk about uh you know the power of fear and how media controls are fear and then goes on a tangent about and i shoot you not in one of his documentaries goes on a tangent about radical lesbian nuns and then tries to feed that back into his original argument and because he edits so quickly and puts in lots of nice sound bites people often forget his original point but that's the thing when you when you get all this feeling this little point on e-fap before yeah yeah but you're not suits you would never claim to be these intellectual powerhouses who analyze films in ways that you could never imagine and and bring in these postmodernist thinkers who really don't have much credentials other than they sound smart uh and actually but another thing is is there going to be a counterpoint because if you're an essayist one of the things that you might include in your essays and is is seen as good essay writing is to bring in a counterpoint a counterargument to look at a different point of view i don't think they're gonna do that maybe he will to end and that's why they're bad that's why i don't think they could because if they did they would immediately go oh wait this is dumb oh wait i wasted my time exactly and that's if you remember he glossed over he counted himself and glossed over he was like yeah there are endings to say the story lies but anyway the big stuff no but anyway there aren't any yeah that's the closest they'll get to not to showing that they haven't got a bias that they'll throw in a counterpoint that someone might say like a person in the comments going hang on and they'll briefly they'll mention it but they won't offer an argument to that point so i'm sure there's loads of youtube comments going you did this this and this and they're really nice this but we're not going to cover it even though if you really follow that line of thinking breaks down the entire fucking thing i wonder how many like passive wisecrack viewers that are that will just sit there and consume this into their brain and just think that it's true i think this is a channel where i think a lot of people might be like you they listen to the whole thing and then you go what did he just say and they'll be like uh he said the they were probably cobbled together something that he didn't really say okay like oh he sort of said like the you know again game has an end bad i saw avengers and i clapped good enough for me that's where it is so that's the shit heck by contrast marvel films were always built on a foundation of beginning middle and end both within each installment and the overarching phase that's just what that makes no sense at all they had to set beginning middle and end both in their own stories and the overarching plots it's like so they had a big that's stupid oh so is that not one big middle no no it's not apparently that's okay how is that not the same as game of thrones i got confused because of what i heard earlier but whatever okay then i got confused only because of what that guy said two minutes ago how is that not applicable to game thrones i am outraged i want to kill a cat yeah i'm down yeah i'm down all right built to one final conclusion defeating thanos interestingly alan that's not even the end though i think the first i suppose no they don't never mind i'm being completely a drinking game with this couldn't you alan says alan said like but that's says like but alan says every time the guy doesn't brush his hair drink every time he says alan drink i don't think you'd make it through the whole that is it with people who don't groom themselves before they get on camera i think he does consider this groomed oh what a hobo that's mean to hobo dude hey he could we can only see the top of him he might not be wearing any pants i'm not wearing any pants i reckon his pubes look the same yes unkempt wild wild kent with no end only middle infinitesimal pubes spilling out of his trousers i can see through time unlike my penis my pubes never end and the overarching phases that built to one final conclusion defeating thanos one fight you catch that one final conclusion it's like oh you think there's not going to be more conclusions of the mcu really no that's final conclusion oh okay all right it's all over yeah it's all they don't want any more money they're not going to make any more this is so dumb but he knows it i think he knew it when he wrote that he was like final yeah fuck it they won't know i don't think the guy that's reading the script i really feel like he's just the face of someone else's and i like the half-assed attempt at alan what the fuck am i reading come on alan do me a solid you're embarrassing me in front of the internet alan um yeah you can be like oh this will this won't age well it's like oh well it's already aged fucking poorly because far from was out so interestingly alan pinpoints a specific culture all right it's really fucking interesting what alan can point to yeah middles video games in games here we go oh god here comes mario excited go back to a specific cultural culprit for our extended journey into narrative middles video games in games like the sims roller coaster tycoon or mmo's like wow you cruise through a ball you can't just go like games that don't have endings it's like what about the games that do have endings what the fuck that i can see that point yeah there are there literally exactly don't have endings because they're a unique genre of game this is exactly what we said it would be in the beginning we said you would drag games into it with some arbitrary point when we mentioned video games earlier he showed super mario bros right which has an ending yes amount of levels and then it's over and now to make his point he's deliberately ignoring 99 percent of video games i was gonna say more games have endings than don't more games have ended pointing to the like the handful that you could just play in indefinitely such a bullshit point it's just a hook it's like how does how does explaining why game of thrones is bad relate to super mario if you like okay and then also you got to think about the popularity as well and like so so if people have been influenced by playing world of warcraft the sims or roller coaster tycoon to the point where they don't want endings anymore like how many people would that actually affect the cinema going audience narrative middles video games in games like the sims roller coaster tycoon or mmo's roller coaster tycoon is very narrative limited as well i don't even this is the thing roller coasters you look playing like imagine one of his references was like cool of you to multiplayer you'd be like well yeah technically that doesn't have an ending but it also doesn't really have a beginning yeah games have endings but it just depends on what he defines as an ending like if you're like oh you the match is over he's like yes but the next match it's about to begin you're like what wow you cruise through a never end but alan after all there's no point where you smart they literally have end games in them i was about to say can you argue that this end games to sims like get all of the best things you get bored you get bored is the end game of sims pretty much that's uninstalled that's the ending but also you get bored of the middle because after a while we've played some of these games it gets a bit repetitive you know i want something to end so although he's arguing that we're so used to the middle the ride never ending actually we are used to what we do is we walk away because it's fucking boring we do want a satisfactory ending so so in the sims when when your character dies they get a tombstone that occupies one square on the floor so the only way to finish the sims is to occupy every square of the playable area with tombstones so there's nowhere to build the only way to beat sims is to kill the new family the new family that moves into the neighborhood can't lay a single brick because there's just tombstones well that doesn't even end it because you just you're there you're walking around you just can't do anything you just start a new game to i think alan would allow that he'd be like yep that's just another middle and yeah but is a new game a beginning or is it just another middle should have you neanderthal that's everything everything's a beginning an end to you but but grog no like middle yeah i was just thinking imagine you had a kid where they just discovered sims you're like oh that's awesome like they get really bursted into it for years they're like i want to show you something dad you're like oh what they've done that tombstone thing you're like oh wow can i have pet dog do you think we can do this in real life it's like oh no oh it's hitler yeah but if humans lived on for indefinitely eventually we would run out of places to bury the bodies we'd run out of middle we would shoot them into space you have spaces besides all the ones we buried like 2000 years ago they're mostly embedded into the ground like the viking to me she's blasted after where they where they'd like push them off in a boat and set fire to it it'd be like that but you just like propel someone covered in methylated spirits up into the sky it's like star trek you put them in a torpedo oh you shoot it out it's a wonderful cycle of life yeah i want to make sure that or mmo's definitely dad you cruise through a never ending middle after all there's no point where you smirk with relief as you've landed your sim the job they've always wanted and can successfully close the game for good now of course you can if you want why does he say yeah that's totally up to you does he just mean the game never forces you to quit or something he he makes it seem like we are slaves you know how you can never but that's the thing you're stuck yeah you're always playing the sims even if you're not currently playing even when you're sleeping it's just on pause right now you'll always be playing the sims then yeah you become the sim yeah so like you know the new god of war the fact that there's a new game plus it's like the narrative ends but it doesn't force you to stop playing it doesn't lock you out or anything so it's like is new game plus considered a never ending middle that's just the new middle yeah uh wait is this last of us because this has an end uh it might be yes yeah it's haven't applied to all games some like the last of us yeah he's saying it doesn't apply to work games some some have an end some games have an end guy i love maybe i love it when you your argument just falls apart it is like everybody on earth is male except for those who are female you're like what except for those or anything else what this doesn't make any sense why are you even making the statement in the first place it's like well i don't know there are some games that end like i don't know the last of us but that's about it there's not any of this what is what is he actually gonna say this is just some he's wanted and can successfully close the game for good now of course this doesn't apply to all games some like the last of us this doesn't apply to oh wait it doesn't build toward a conclusion but even in a game like skyrim which does have a narrative end people get lost in the limitless expanses so your argument means nothing oh yeah so you have a terrible argument and you're explaining us that your argument's terrible but some games end some games never end some games have endings but you can continue it's like congratulations you've played you've understood games you may as well have just said sometimes there are games you can play like a 12 year old that games don't have ends and they're like but imagine Alan sat there playing skyrim just going but but this is all the middle takes you back to the main menu and he's like well it's not over i can still hit play well yeah the credits haven't they haven't finished rolling so it's still the middle Alan just get the fuck out of the house no i'm stuck here as an audience member you know i'm not going slow me have her slowly pulls back and Alan's just in the estate insane asylum like it's the middle it's just the middle it's all middle he thought he was creating plays but he was just scribbling on napkins in the cafeteria at some insane asylum of middle side quests another way to view this phenomenon is there is a finite amount of i was going to say yeah well you would by definition they don't randomly generate uh quests in skyrim if you said fall out four then yeah because there's always bullshit stuff you need to go and do that that just indefinitely uh repeats yeah eventually generates a quest for you at x location yeah yeah but skyrim is finite i mean as long as enemies respawn i mean even if there were no enemies or quests just walking around it's just so wrong he's like he's talking about random genres of video games or trying to relate it to game of thrones when you have plundered a cave or a building or whatever it will show up on the map that you have done it it's finished it's empty you've taken the treasure so the so the middle you're highlighting there's a middle there yeah yeah so he's gonna knock out the old psychology look here's our scientific data even though psychology itself is a soft science but whatever uh i want to see what he says because i just researched this person's name this video is making me a soft science people get lost in the endless expanses of middle side quests another way to view this phenomenon is taking a cue from psychology in a recent wired article writer j david bolter argues that the phenomenon consumers experience when you know alan and his buddy bolter has great j david bolter j and david d d two names jesus everyone has two names these days for attainment how the video game aesthetic flows into all of culture ah get out your bagels and that's that's pretentious get out your bagels that's right yeah out on some bagels tonight j david bolter argues that influence other things congratulations video games are so widespread that they have an influence on culture like all right has this guy heard of things like religion that's gonna be a video that's all just middle though how the religion aesthetic flows into all of culture that the phenomenon consumers experience when engaging with modern entertainment is akin to psychologist me hi cheek sent me highs was that real wait what hi chi what was his name i'm sorry let's hear that again i'm sorry he doesn't look like a me hi if you get run with moderates here is akin to psychologist me hi cheek sent me highs concept of me hi cheek said me hi me hi one more time one cheek sent me hi he looks like the stock image guy but harold me hi me sent me hi he was just like really smashed and they asked him what his name was me hi me hi me said me hi when engaging with modern entertainment is akin to psychologist me hi cheek sent me highs me hi cheek said me hi is cheek the season better me hi me hi cheek sent me hi me hi cheek sent me hi me hi cheek sent me hi me hi cheek sent me hi me hi cheek sent me hi what would you like to name your beautiful young boy oh we've agreed that his name will be me hi like me hi cheek sent me hi i just like the idea that he's trying to explain it's like i am high my cheek it set me hi okay i don't know how to evolve that this is a thing right if i actually said on the spot he was just trying to make up a fake name because he didn't want to tell anyone who it was so they don't explain the article they just go into explain another psychologist theory this is the third guy now can you tell us why one of these might be correct or not can you like well for one jay dove balter released that article because he's got a book out so of course he's got some uh vested interest in getting his name out there and from what i can tell from my research he is other potentials titles the digital plenitude and the end of art oh fucking hell he sounds like someone i definitely want to listen to for another second experience when engaging with modern entertainment is akin to psychologist me hi cheeks and your mom's concept of he must have felt silly reading about it feels bad bad this is the thing before he was like wow make in front of a name that's not typically like you're west and i'd be like there are plenty of funny western names hilarious names there are funny western names yeah i can we get his name has anyone mentioned to get his name me hi cheeks i smell that me hi okay there was a guy me hi sent me hi yes there's a guy that went to my uh college who was called uh ugi abhi i've actually got it hey i actually found him i actually typed in that oh oh google didn't confuse that with the other me hi cheeks sent me hi uh it gave me that and i forgot his wikipedia there we go oh god that's not a name that's just great that's just they're posting it in chat word and just started walking around they posted it in chat do you see that like how it's spelt me hi cheeks and me hi that's what i typed in that is not actually typed it phonetically and actually picked it up well done google well done google yeah hallie it's probably because everyone else who heard that name did the exact same thing you did so google is intimately familiar his inbox is going to be filled isn't it i'm getting all these emails from people tell me i've got a stupid name what's going on he doesn't have you sound like he's sincerely efat listener 749 he's hungarian which is also where hard she's hungarian fuck it's from me uh and yes he's a hungarian american psychologist he's recognized named the psychological concept of flow a highly focused mental state conduct conducive to productivity what the fuck has that got to do with super mario in place you're trying to figure out why he's named to that right fucking hell his whole life his whole life which is a middle by the way this is a big his a mission to find out why he was named this me hi cheeks and me hi oh my but i it's hard to unravel where the what the main fucking point of any of this is it's an absolute mess a shit show of ideas of things not fitting we've gone from amphitheaters to people wearing suits at the cinema to video games but now psychologists who who talk about flow which is when your mind goes into that state of creativity and productivity but i call that just that's just being in the zone to mess to mess that's called focus that's called concentrating we have a word no no it's called flow that is quicker to say entertainment is akin to psychologist me hi he sent me hi's concept of flow bolter citing chic sent me hi defines flow as a state in which people are so involved in an activity that nothing else seems to matter oh so like 80 hd or something alcoholism yeah it's so enjoyable that people will do it for the sheer sake of doing it yeah that's very familiar concept i mean the human condition isn't it has many of those sorts of things i i think his greater point is we like things that give us highs and lows dragging on because we get really focused and into it except if that's not always the case um but people play call of duty but then they also like the sims but the sims has no end but people like the middles except for the times when they don't and then you never ends because war war never changes this is tell you just trying to find a roundabout way of explaining how you never could have ended game of thrones in a satisfying way and this is all bullshit oh wait this is all bullshit this is this is honestly this is peak video assay this is just bullshit i i genuinely had forgotten that that's what now basketball oh maybe that's how you'll tie mario back in we need mario explain this concept also gets used in italian philosophy activities if you've ever been in the zone you've experienced but basketball has an end though matches the end also i disagree i think all sports are the middle forever no one ever really wins simply pause yeah no one's ever really gone oh no nobody's ever really gone we prefer to lose ourselves in the flow of the viewing flow but you could call that immersion we have several endings throughout game of thrones several things are ending people get very upset because it's sad when characters die because it means you'll not see them anymore their effect is gone ned stark it's one of the like biggest things the show is celebrated for you're like yeah people don't like eddies people don't really want endings like the other two bullshit experience this is what perpetual middle offers it offers never ending world building never ending character but it did but it's finished you can't will build forever or i mean theoretically i guess you could you just run out of interesting or relevant things to talk about it's like there's a there's a mouse over there gonna go lots of mice live in this area mice are interesting sort of for development and introductions i always highlight in all the characters that lived not the hundreds that died as if the you know the story just keeps going for these guys like yep through the fact that they just did die as quickly as the rest to new plot points that promise to build to something great i mean new plot points that's the first scene in season one i hear that again this this stuff guy they never ending world build wait if there's new plot points is that not a beginning well this is the thing more middle that's the implication means the plot points can come to an end but apparently that's only middle in the grand scheme yeah i was like i feel like if you went to him and just asked hey what do you mean what do you mean end it would be just like short circuits you just mean when the company decides that the ip is finished so that they've closed it off like it's customary in conversations to define our terms of the beginning so can you tell me what 100 years stopping somebody in 100 years from buying the rights to that property and then making more stories in that world or with those characters or would he agree that the ot was an end until disney made it the middle would you agree with that i don't know he'd say that it was always the middle it was always the middle yeah it was gonna happen i think character development and introductions to new plot points that promise to build to something great that guy there that's their target audience he's like yeah let me tell you about your intersection feminine how this is fucking upside down head that is an upside down head that's racist upside down heads are a mistake um so like yeah the night king was a new addition to an ongoing plot line i guess that's what he meant by new plot point but we've been desperately waiting for the white walker storyline to mean something because it's throughout the show and the biggest awesome element to it was that it kept drip feeding it and we were like this is going to be the big payoff and then it wasn't it was great but that's just because nobody could ever be satisfied that's why because it's all middle because of by his logic then if if game of thrones had continued would everyone have been happy with game of thrones season eight because it's still middle uh what even if it was still the same if it was exactly the same but they go yeah season nine's coming out next year what does he think that we people will be happy it's like oh it's not over so we're happy you see how everything falls apart i mean argument is stupid no people would still hate it that's the whole point isn't it look we referenced psych don't think about it um i can just picture be like well what about what about alan the he's you know he said you know you guys not listen to alan you haven't heard about alan our lord and savior exactly this is adam kurtis style you make a point and then you go on this convoluted journey to the point where you actually forget what the original idea was and we for fucking we call this flow we just got nonsense yeah sorry he was just experiencing some flow and didn't realize that he won't come into work today i got the flow new plot points that promise to build to something great who cares if it actually ever does land at that something the build up is in itself this is something about game of her own and you're asking that seriously i don't believe he just said that like i was waiting for anybody else to just who really cares about it it's all about the build up it's like literally the opposite is he trying to argue it's not the end it's journey but it's both kind of like the journey to be satisfying you have to have an end otherwise without each other yeah otherwise there's just a perpetual trek that's why i liked the line in the trailer for end game that iamant said part of the journey is the end he was talking about how you know it's been a long journey he's about to die and that's a part of the whole thing it's like oh it's interesting to think about it's like the you have to take the end into consideration of the journey it's not like this it's not like you have beginning journey end it's the whole thing yeah that's that's kind of solid because disney's like okay we're gonna make several other films in phase four but i actually agree that it's the end of iron man's story you know like he's got a start middle finish whatever you want to say but like he's like no it's the end it's like it's not the end for the MCU it's far from it there's still not really the end for iron man either because still like mentioned and the effect that his actions has had is still being seen like he's still very much a part of the story i mean the character referring specifically to him like the man himself like what's doing new things his influence on the world will obviously outlast him but that's that's pretty standard with most important figures in there something great who cares if it actually ever does land at that something the build up is in itself extremely satisfying binge watching serialized tv and playing video games to quote bolter offers the viewer player or participant not only pleasure in the moment how many video games do you think bolter playing fucking no he's a pro gamer he was fucking playing the legends little bit of a fucking battle royale master after the weapon from warhammer so he's a super gamer it's over at a game he's sports he's surrounded by groupies he can you know 360 no scope like a fucking pro yeah he's playing them in league of legends or some shit i don't know benjamin in chat said it's over anakin i have the middle ground also the seductive possibility that the moment might go on indefinitely so oh wait i want to look at that quote let's go yeah that makes no fucking sense wait put the pro gamer back on and what does he know about seduction that's so awful so he just goes to do so game of thrones and video games offer the viewer player or participant not only the pleasure in the moment but also the seductive possibility that the moment might go on indefinitely yeah um that's so seductive the idea that i will never ever ever stop doing one thing forever i was gonna say that can totally go both ways the idea like sometimes it's detrimental for games to not have goals to work towards because otherwise people will be like why am i here and for the most part right now i prefer a more casual experience where i can like play a game that i pick up for like five minutes and just play it and then get on with my life i don't want it to go on forever that sounds like hell but it's a false equivalency video games and films and tv it's it's not the same well i mean that's the weird thing that he's applying into game of thrones a series that has ended i guess he's trying to say that's why people are unsatisfied oh yeah game of thrones has obviously already finished yeah yeah because he's about to argue i think the the reason people are unhappy with game of thrones is because nobody ever wanted to end they wanted to go on forever no no not true at all but but these people with two names uh sound important so i just love the idea that we had j j david bolter here right now and he's like but people play video games for a long time you're like yes yes j end of point yes j they do isn't that the funny thing when you when you actually break it down to layman terms what they're saying is is utter bollocks it when you break it down behind they hide behind big words don't they they hide behind their vocabulary to sound smart but actually when you layman terms go so what you're saying is people play video games for a really long time and that's like watching tv for a long time uh yeah go uh nobody ever wanted game of thrones to end and it should go on indefinitely forever for generation nobody wanted place to end well if you look at this quote he's got but also the seductive possibility that the moment might go on forever indefinitely if you were to try and cut it down you'd be like but also that the moment might go on indefinitely you can literally cut out seductive possibility it's not like why is it productive well that's the thing you just highlighted it's like it makes it sound more you know fleshy you're like oh he's saying things that's the seductive possibility this doesn't feel like academic writing well you don't need the word possibility and might in the same moment he's like it's gonna it's possible that it might go on forever it's like so pick one are you saying it will or not it's possible it'll go on forever or that it'll go on it might go on maybe all all be the middle and again no counterargument to any of this they say these names of media types as if it's as if it's true that the no counterargument is very superfluous there's a lot of filler and again a lot of it is very subjective stuff this is all very feelings based because it's psychologists and things like that but what might be true of one person's feelings it's not gonna be true of another's maybe i played it again we go i really can't wait to finish this level because it's completed and i feel like i've done something i'm confused as well that is not just watching a tv show is it you don't watch game of thrones going i can't wait for this fucking thing to end i've been sitting here all time i wish i could get through this scene and why is any reference soap operas like isn't that the easiest thing to go for they just never end they literally just go on forever because it's not a video game reviews castigate video games for too much grind like i could are there are there american soap opera oh yeah absolutely days of our lives how many seasons have there been days of our lives yeah i'm talking about someone so like over here we have east tenders carnation street uh first episode was november 1965 number of number of episodes 13 635 i remember sounds like alan's worst night yeah they are the true never ending thousand middle it's not even but that's the thing even i would be like well not really because they'll keep having stories that have beginning middles and ends and during them new characters get introduced new stars get set up you know like it's just an ongoing set of stories it was still just the exact same characters well in some cases i want to see if there's been a character that started as like a teenager on one of these shows and it's like it you know like like oap if you were born the day the first episode came out you would be fuck 1965 and it's 2019 you'd be 54 years old i remember someone did the math on how how many hours of the day you would have to if you wanted to catch up to days of our lives you like i'm really invested someone i actually read somewhere someone calculated how many how long it would take you to get caught up speed we're talking years you would have to be basically alan alan would be right in this occasion you would never be able to pause you would have to be staying in the screen for years no he supports the idea of posing with 13600 episodes the episodes are owing for commercials what 40 minutes each oh 40 is it not an hour long i don't know what are we talking about days of our lives we're talking about someone else we're definitely talking about days of our lives this is on this is efap but we're talking we're calculating uh days of our lives statistics so let's see let me go to the official official days of our lives the wikipedia 30 30 minutes and then it was 60 minutes from 1975 onwards all right so for the most part it was an hour long so for the vast majority of its time for like 80 it was 10 years of 30 minutes and then the rest is is all right we're gonna go with 40 minutes so 40 we're 50 did it have breaks over like holiday seasons or anything well we know five days a week i love that this is happening right now so uh so we have 13600 episodes fucking tv show okay 13600 um times let's go with 40 so that's 21.76 million minutes of days for lives that's a lot of middle now let's divide that by 60 to get hours so that's 362,667 hours of days of our lives divide by 24 well no that can't be possible i fucked up along the way need time to sleep no it yeah no i i fucked up all i i must not be thinking if there are 13600 episodes you can't get more hours than that no i must have done something wrong along the way 13 6 no i'm not good at math sue me um right so what was it 13600 yes i'm multiplied by 40 to get minutes which is 544,000 yeah which i was already a different number so i must have clicked a wrong number so divide that by 60 yeah so now you get 9,066 hours then divide that by 24 i must have clicked uh i must have clicked an extra button or 377 days so that's a whole year yeah it's just over a year all right all right awesome of constant watching so that's no sleep no food nothing you have to sit there yeah you can eat while watching yeah but how are you gonna prepare the food you can prepare food while watching you can hire someone to prepare the food for you and you could have a shit bucket so you could hire someone quite an investment for days of our lives let's do it it's worth it it's worth it to know what happens in the middle timothy de mera or whatever that's a long time to spend in the middle yeah that is man not if you invite your friend but also the seductive possibility that the moment might go on indefinitely point is seductive possibility all right so do people not feel that when they watched plays or when they're reading books because i know i sure as hell felt that when i was reading a book i didn't want the stand-in i didn't want the count of money crystal to end oh yeah 100% yeah he talks as if people go to the theater and then they immediately expect people to suddenly lock the doors behind them go no you're in this play forever like some sort of no people do i really think they're you could have either could have had a whole video talking about why we have to have endings and why human beings desire endings like we we love endings to stories the things never ended we would have no people because everyone would be perpetually having sex and there would be no cum exactly and that's very seductive it's all the middle it's just this this is just terrible and it ignores so many things just to make a pretentious video might go on indefinitely okay wait i think we might we've got something wrong here because on bingeclock.com it says that to watch every episode of Days of Our Lives it would actually take 470 days and one hour well like i said to rags you should have times about 50 instead of 40 and one hour yeah but but what you're not taking into account is you have to catch up with the year you've spent watching Days of Our Lives oh fuck you're right that's right so how many episodes are you watching it and then you would miss a year and so you've got to watch the year oh shit that wouldn't add that wouldn't add that time so it's like you know like when you're trying to measure the distance between the start and the end of something and then you half it this process will never end binge clock days of our lives like i said you averaged on a 40 minutes 50 minutes would probably been more accurate well it says one it says one hour and if you if you went to watch them you would buy like DVD box sets so it wouldn't have the commercials in there okay this is the fourth longest binge watch are you fucking shitting me i'm okay the longest would be coronation street no it says um it says the guiding light is that some christian bullshit is it still going i don't know um i'm actually gonna i've never heard of it got what about when did when did qvc as a channel begin the guiding light began in 1952 damn i bet they had no idea when they started that but but but it ended in 2009 oh so it's finished though it began before it ended there it ended allen won't it ten years ago allen will be like no the longest running show had an end how it's primitive anyway people want plays i know what people want none of this netflix stuff and after that we have the cbs late movie and then as the world turns is after that right i've never even heard of any of these fucking shows i haven't either well it's like when james charles was in the news i've never heard of him but he has like 10 13 million subs and never heard of the guy yeah at the moment might go on indefinitely point is if you consider this shift in media it becomes appropriate to ask could game of thrones have ever achieved a satisfying ending yes yeah duh of course a fucking course like what's the you haven't even presented an argument for why it couldn't allen said world of warcraft exists oh okay like ironically that's this video wasn't the other guy what cheek me hi i am high because of my cheeks this is really confusing because the bold guy with glasses who says it's all seductive was also working in the theory of another psychologist who was talking about flow that quote didn't really incorporate flow that was more about enjoying something whereas flow is more of a state of being focused on productivity yeah i think they just wanted to name drop one more like researcher i actually think it does help your video essay if you cite some prestigious sounding person because people be like oh you did your research one but what they probably did was just google some guy let's not think about it beyond that let's just assume that it's correct because you just quoted someone but like i love the lack of info he's given to relative to game of thrones like to talk about it as if just like he just concludes this like about game of thrones like why game of thrones why do we want to talk about the story of game of thrones as well as like no like oh okay it's such a broad topic isn't it because the reason people were the reason people were unhappy the consensus was the writing was bad it wasn't bad we loved it so much we didn't want it to end we were quite happy to give it a break for a year while they redid you know where they shot the next series the problem is it ended really badly had nothing to do with the middle with all its catharsis it was just really badly written and that's he's not acknowledging that but he wants to be this pseudo-intellectual contrarian oh no no no i have this i have this is why this is why you don't like it you're not smart you're not watching you don't understand he also hasn't addressed how how endgame escape this fate because it's not like video because it's allowed to end basketball yeah i'm really missing the point now that he's trying to make and look how much time he's got he's probably got another fucking ad so how many more times is he gonna say allen come on bring allen back in you can bring it home could a show built on the honeymoon period of extended middle ever really you've not established that this is this is a show built on extended middle that's even oh wait guys look there's some graphs it's got some stats it's got you there in the same way with a conclusion a quick look at this collection of graphs that chart oh fuck off that's not a good electric who gives a shit about user submitted reviews look at how that's not a good metric look at the sexism what does this conclude exactly we're really satisfied in the same way with a conclusion a quick look at this collection of graphs that charts the quick look scores of shows as they approach their series finale is telling most of the serialized shows tank when they arrive at their end okay so did house of cards did any of that have to do with like kevin spacey do okay yeah house of house of cards season one and two are really good season three is mostly okay and then it starts to fall apart season four is terrible season five is an absolute disaster and then season six i haven't even watched but apparently that's the lowest rated one yeah but it also doesn't have kevin kevin spacey is murdered at the beginning of it off screen yeah it's a spin-off because of external bullshit that happened that you can't use that evidence that's the thing these all have contexts that are really important yeah correlation does not equal causation and imdb is not a metric i can make the same argument i a survey company you have special companies that do surveys imdb is not representative of everyone's thought in the populace i will also i'll give an equally shitty argument and just use the exact same graph my whole assay is about how writers literally get abducted by aliens and replaced with poor writers when they get to the end of their shows look at this graph this explains it okay i don't know that that proves aliens this is like yes it does i mean you could look at the office and people really like that so it is possible he's about to argue that that's different because the office isn't intelligent people intelligent people only watch the beginning of shows and dumb people stay and watch them through to the end and that's reflected here by these graphs that i found both buffy and angel shows buffy and angels are shows that had long running storylines and they both ended very satisfactorily to audiences but let's not bring up any shows that ended in what about breaking bad that totally breaks this yeah and he even mentioned it earlier and now he's just he's got to ignore it for this while the he's he's specifically oh so yeah so his argument rags is that all the shows that start and end with every episode as then you could watch them all out of order and it wouldn't make much of a difference uh they end happily people are happy with the endings and it's probably because also they don't have a comedy they don't have a perpetual middle yeah but that's that's what i mean it's not even necessarily true like a lot of like community is a comedy that uh you could argue is self-contained but they still have a basic plot progression that goes through each of the storylines but funnily enough you'd be like yeah but that had a poorly rated final season it's like yeah the writing was shit the last season though or at least it was shitter i don't know about shit parks and rec can't really be counted either there because there is there is progression happening through the story big bang theory is the same constantly the office is the same constantly like nothing really changes everyone same roles and stability and it's just episodic but yes this is a really good example the things you would argue in every middle it was like it was like serious dramas and these are just fucking sitcoms basically i mean this is the peak of cherry picking to fit his bullsh** argument so just to clarify for everybody his argument is when you have a start middle finish in every episode like friends or shows like these everyone is happy for them to end at any point but when you have a show that has a running plot line that develops nobody wants it to end and therefore rates the last season badly okay fine show me a graph like this for the simpsons which is episodic but has seen a a definite decline yeah the ratings will be dramatically different but this is the thing i would rather attribute all of these to writing not to whatever the hell is made of do you know why that's happened to the simpsons because it hasn't ended because it's gone on for so fucking long and everyone's bored and they've covered every topic imaginable that it's just it's just run out of steam yeah which completely is counter to what this guy's trying to say that we want everything to last forever for some fucking because we're dumb neanderthal you know what i could argue people highly rated the endings of these shows because they mostly hated these shows everyone just tend to hate them so they were really happy when they ended as much fucking support evidence i just have to reference you know j joda car michael the scientist from under the ground that's his whole thing most of the serialized shows tank when they arrive at their end while the episodic shows maintain favorability much more gracefully this can't be a coincidence yeah it's not it's literally about the writing i love how the simplest answer is the correct one if it was well written yeah people would be digging it these very specific examples i've chosen to prove my point can't be a coincidence i still think there's validity to the alien theory i don't know it can't be that all the competent writers leave before the final season why no it doesn't you don't have to know that happens all the time it's one of the reasons sitting here for simpsons yeah because it made lost some of the writing teams who made some great jokes and it went it happens since when stuff changed since since when is it only possible for a person to either make good or bad things you can't that they can only make one look at ridley scott he made alien and he made prometheus explain that alan does he does he not remember the writer's strike that hit hollywood like 10 years ago that drastically affected shows and their ratings because the caliber of writing went to shit it and those shows didn't end how does he explain breaking bad in the middle yeah in the middle of some tv series they had a writer strike that to change up some of the writers and the shows went to shit and then maybe they got some of the rights back it's all these seniors and maybe it's harder to do one than the other doesn't mean it's not about whether it's possible and i would actually agree with that by the way it's harder to do one than the other it's way easier to end a self-contained episodic tv show than a one that runs a plot line from literally episode one up to episode 100 yeah writing isn't easy but when when people finish a video game do they go on meta score websites and then go i was enjoying it so far but now i'm gonna downvote it what it is it's not it's square peg round hole and it is just not fitting no matter how much you mash it against there yeah much more gracefully this can't be a coincidence it can't be that all the competent writers leave before the final season or that only episodic tv attracts talented artists as if anyone would make those arguments jesus christ i love how he he only tackles two of the stupidest arguments you could come up with like maybe all the talented people leave on the last episode i don't know what's more extreme than a straw man a paper a jelly man i came up with that one of the straw man yeah there was like episode seven of uh efap i think i said it about quinton taking my arguments and he turned he made a jelly man out of him it's like a straw man and then i think i said he he still didn't even count to the jelly man like he made a really bad argument so the jelly man like killed him the jelly man just kind of wobbled onto him and suffocated yeah he fell into his mouth and he joked on the jelly when you lose to a jelly man that's uh you're in a bad spot but there's leaves before the final season or that only episodic tv attracts talented artists it's not that we need to stop criticizing game of thrones again we made a whole video doing just that but media like game of thrones may not be built to end like cinematic universes so dumb uh and cinematic you just said it isn't built to end like a cinematic universe has ended what yeah the mcu is over it's still going what the fuck i mean but i guess technically the monsters universe is over after the only ones that ended yeah the only ones that have ended are the ones that couldn't make money to go on that's it the other ones are still going media like exactly and that's not a surprise is in part profit is this is stupid i hate it can end like cinematic universes are with serialized television we don't seek the catharsis that is perhaps implicit in a contained narrative experience one is built to end the other to keep on going the mcu hasn't ended argument is flawed what about franchises like star wars that that's going on for years if you told me one of my counter arguments today would be explaining that the mcu hasn't ended i wouldn't have believed you has a franchise ever ended has anyone ever announced the only end of a franchise they would yeah this the thing i'm pretty sure star wars ended like george was like i'm not making any more and i'm not selling the rights who's like it's added until it doesn't until someone buys it and then continues that's the thing it doesn't really everything is middle he was right alan was right nothing's ever really gone but but we don't enjoy the middle because you didn't enjoy fucking the last jedi and that's the middle of a trilogy yeah so no it's pretty it's full of holes pretty suitable that he said that all we ever do is full of holes it is just a big hole he is a hole well a hole is full of holes he is a hole yeah a giant hole is just lots of little holes put together one is built to end the other to keep on going means so what do you guys think we gave you should what we think it the ways in which we that means predated i'm sorry to drag that into it can you come on guys yeah well means memes were made to end well there ever be an end to a serialized tv show that's better than its extended middle what yes angel's ending was better than the majority of its middle wait what end to a serialized tv show that's better than its extended middle let us know what's thing in the car will there ever be an end to a serialized television show that was better than its extended middle that's his fucking question how would you even measure i don't know i don't actually know how you fucking measure that like is it literally just by episode ratings you go from finale an episode be better than like multiple seasons like i don't even what kind of fucking question is that well i think there was more character development in those 10 seasons of the show than in this one episode so i think that's better like what metric do you that would make shows what a strange question okay okay you're asking something at the end i'm curious if we go another ad coming what comments thanks to all our patrons who support the channel and our podcast is that it don't forget to hit that subscribe button and before you go i want to give another shout out to wicks and our we have to fight we have to find out about little little chin kin lee's oh yeah hi or whatever hi leah hi cheek you want to find out about him me hi cheeks me hi me hi cheeks me six me hi me hi cheeks sent me hi hi that was it cheek cheek sent me hi behind me what do you think of that video guys i ain't getting those two raised some very good points they get like hundreds of thousands to millions of views this is terrible this is awful it like they got a full career from just spouting bullshit it's just looking here let me regurgitate something i read someone else say i guess that's how it like removes responsibility to be like this is a bullshit theory it's like it was not mine it was it was jay well i was that was telling me how i was just giving out i made a theory i was just going to find out how it's not even real like he's just they just make up these guys it's a jelly man it's felt like an algorithm spunked it out because it has popular things in it game of thrones video games and the avengers these are all really popular things on the internet how can we fit that into an essay to help our youtube career um make it so give it an open-ended stupid question that will never be happy with endings because we've played too many video games or something like that that sounds like well we can have you seen with stats and nice sounding sound bites from academics there we go that's a wrap what a piece of shit austin mcconnell's video where he got this video sponsored he got an ai to write a script for a movie and then he got another ai to script that the ai wrote for a movie and it starts off kind of okay and then just descends into absolute nonsense i think i read what that was i mean that's what gondelb is it's supposed to feel like it's generated by an ai just says pretentious things but it's it's all built from actual quotes from real people that's what makes it so great you just go up to the wisecrack video machine and you just type in three buzzwords and it just mashes some kind of video to get from what i understand wisecrack used to be good a lot of people tend to say that like there's a couple of people in chat saying they used to like this channel i think they once they got super popular and they started to um you know like crank out content super fast yeah it's just like avengers endgame fucking game thrones uh one's hated one's like we come up with like a philosophical theory as to why it's like people like things that last long will the warcraft go like yeah i still don't see how mario ties into any of well there's no counter-argument as well it was all by it was stupid it was poorly conserved if you gave if you were if that was an actual written essay you would get very low marks assuming your professor didn't subscribe to postmodern too much which unfortunately is quite a lot of professors you would get marked down that is a poorly constructed less your professor was allen yeah i see you've taken inspiration from one of the better writers of our world you know like can you believe that a video game that relies on a subscription model in which you pay monthly never ends sanity in can you but oh we're kind of a force is driving that phenomenon this next one right so this is gonna be weeks we're not watching the full video but this is called the walking dead why do we love the zombie apocalypse it's pretty i watched the whole video because i was curious um it's pretty tame analysis it's just like a basic reason for why we might be attracted to watching zombie stories and stuff the interesting thing is and someone wrote this in the comment section that's why i've actually got these times specifically i didn't have to do this myself from one minute oh seven to one minute twenty there's an ad from five minutes six to five thirty five there's an ad and then from seven twenty seven to the end of the video there's an ad so that's wait five like a third a third of the video basically pretty much which is apparently why it pissed off a lot of people because it's just like such a limited content for anything but anyway i was watching it i was like i want you to guy i don't hope bizarre this sounds okay but we're doing this we're gonna go to the last portion of the ad i want us to judge the quality of this ad okay like let's pretend for a second that you were like let's let's let's watch some ads to see if we want to get some um some some products let's see if he sells you on this this thing because this is really what dystopic dreams are it's gonna start in like 15 seconds restart in a more simplified world thinly veiled by the apparent horror of dystopic collapse and it's not just the walking dead between bear grills naked and afraid and survivor man the shock of living a simpler existence provides the same kind of escape as space travel did 50 years ago so what do you think is our love of the walking dead a resignation to the hopelessness of it all or do we just love seeing zombies get stabbed in the brain speaking of stabbing zombies in the brain let's check out some more the walking dead no man's land here's my camp you can see how much time i've been put in meticulously organizing it no great build already i'm like well not really so meticulously organized you've got like five what vegetable things over there and then why would you spend gold to upgrade buildings that doesn't make any sense in a zombie apocalypse that is like is like do you want to upgrade your building yeah do you have gold ingots i'm like what a bizarre yeah that is a bizarre currency to do you have clean water because surely that building is going to be providing you a shelter and nobody's made of gold there's gold they're just zombie apocalypse so much gold playing around you just take it it's collapsed yeah i just love the fact that you're telling you to stockpile gold because of inflation you just build the golden house it's not worth anything also note he's like no it's like enthusiasm too but yeah just the idea that he's like look at how meticulous this is like i don't it looks like a mess on my screen but okay maybe that's the brain maybe if stabbing zombies in the brain but check out some more the walking dead no man's land here's my camp you can see how much time i've been put in meticulously organizing it you can upgrade buildings to get more resources i love all your equipment armor and people i've been dumping all my experience into daryl because he can mow down rows of walkers now i'm going to put him on my team for this story mission so it looks like i have to get into these supplies so clear this guy's out distance with your gun uh looks like i have to protect abraham while he opens it this is my favorite part this is my like this is an official ad thing like he has to actually sound like a kid does he not this is my favorite part this is my favorite part oh yeah that again is so good see how much i enjoy it so it looks like i have to get into these supplies so clear those guys out wow looks like i have to protect abraham while he opens it wow okay this is my favorite part wow now time to get out without dying unfortunately because i played this game i can't enjoy the ending michelle almost got killed yep oh but thank god i like the this is having the complete opposite effect he would have intended he's like please buy this would like no now time to get out of that dying favorite part and save that last this is my favorite value and they made a pretty fun game of opening boxes for some random rewards they also made a pretty fun game of opening up boxes yep for some random reward go and fuck yourself just look at go go and have the zombies just line up and fuck you one at a time look at it though it's it looks like you just tap something they open it's the most basic fucking opening system ever completing the mission and they made a pretty fun game of opening boxes for some i was in a fun game so fun game i don't understand people will do anything for my they'll just do anything i know right show the shitty game yeah fuck it why not this is my favorite part yeah here's the thing like movie tie-in video games are bad enough but dead ass tv show tie-in mobile game that's a whole new level garbage this week's special bundle unlocked in nine hours and 26 minutes i'm gonna go ahead and bet you could probably pay to get that at faster oh i'm gonna i would hope so that's how you know it's a quality game release you know this i'll bet after this video released they had to pay the walking dead because so many people didn't buy it in fact uninstall the they owed amc money after this let's play one it looks like you get to relive rick and company securing the prison oh i have to walk these entrances where walkers keep this is my favorite you know make sure they don't murder me in the process so i've got to get that dumpster blocking it why then this fence they can still clearly get i got this dumpster blocking it you sound like you want to kill yourself can you please right so maggie's got a i guess a machine gun rick's got a handgun fucking glens over there with a knife this is america and the zombie apocalypse there are more guns than people there's no reason i need to be walking up to zombies with a knife you can save your ammo it makes the game more exciting it's very exciting that's ton of walkers in my way wow i guess this is home sweet home now thanks again to next game i don't understand why using darrell's power was a favorite part when i think pushing the dumpster was probably my favorite part that looked really fun yeah that's actually pretty good yeah i look forward to unlocking the dumpster pushing perk that's going to highlight my fucking game you can upgrade the perk to either push small dumpsters further and faster or to push larger dumpsters this dumpster is going to take nine hours to push would you like to pay would you like to spend gold to make it go faster here darrell i know you have to push that dumpster but if you give this little goblin some gold he'll help you push it quicker hi i'm randy the goblin i'll help you push a dumpster to escape the zombies if you give me gold it gets like i just can't get over it look how casually a switch is from like the game footage just out of it it's like oh right we're watching something else and that's a ton of walkers in my way i guess this is that i guess they died okay thanks again to next games for sponsoring this video and be sure to check out the walkers in my way and on the app store or google play download it using the link in the description below before june 28th and you can unlock negan for free they're also wow you can unlock negan wow how much would negan cost otherwise i'm curious about that based on what i've seen what i've seen here guns are super fucking op i don't give a shit about a guy with a club quest frankly that called midsummer mayhem yeah but how quickly can you push dumps one billion walkers everyone gets a gold i'll sacrifice a bit of dumpster oh dude capability if we all collectively kill a million walkers we get a golden club wow million walkers just 12 people who play like this is rarity legendary and it's like yeah when everyone gets it it'll she'll be rare yeah heal and you can play with us join wisecrack's hyperion guild with me i'm salvo and tata's parking beseech which i'm gonna go ahead and guess these two never played the game again they they play it every day they love it well i think he calls himself slavoj zizek apparently as in the commie philosopher slavoj zizek the famous commie full of bullshit philosopher slavoj zizek yeah is that his in-game handle or his actual name i don't know i don't why i don't want to be associated with a communist philosopher it's called fucking bastige these just don't sound like real people's names told us a botched reference to some movie there's 17 slots left in the guild so hurry on up wow 17 slots i'm imagining there's a lot of slots now i can't make the play the laughing dead with my favorite youtubers i'd ring that bell thanks for watching wisecrack ask crack no i need to just i just need to get that bit again this is my favorite part we did that by accident great this is my favorite part this is my favorite part story mission you need you need to get like an efap soundboard this is my favorite part is like can you imagine saying that like right before you come in some bitch do you think anybody like proof this like someone watches like dude you sound like death you're just slapping it in there and then all of a sudden this is my favorite part get into the supplies to clear those guys out uh it looks like i have to protect abraham while he opens it uh this is my favorite part it's beautiful abraham is your favorite part you don't understand it looked like they were losing anyway there's just zombies everywhere amazing oh man so devoid of any enthusiasm yeah that i guess pissed off their audience quite a bit and uh yeah i can imagine why wisecracker an interesting beast but yeah the so there's something else i actually meant to do this before the videos but hey whatever as long as i do it at some point so um there was a you know the the stream the me rags and scenic snacks were all part of the goliath stream oh yeah the infamous it um that was an amazing stream it uh it got linked on the subreddit that doesn't like us and i wanted you to see three comments that are just amusing to read oh great this is in relation to the goliath orphan bow dead city cosmic chicken stream all right all right guys this isn't the first time this has happened they did something similar to cinema wins similar to patrick willams similar to fuck it i really think these twisted shells of men cannot be saved or redeemed in any fashion there is no way they'll stop acting the way they do no matter how many times reality fucks them in the ass they are an insult to film criticism they are an insult to the star wars fandom to the objectivity for subjectivity debate they are an insult to youtube hell they are an insult to the human race um so we just talked about movies i didn't i didn't know that we're an insult to the human race by talking about stars like whoa um um like it blows my mind that we would we would upset someone to that degree uh but the twisted shells of men it's like did you watch the stream did you see what we were talking about like really we're just having fun while cynic tried to survive in that alleyway so uh the next one up all right all right click the link here all right a whole lot of talking with nothing to say i'm sure they've sat on their ass calling people special snowflakes how much of an ego do you have to have to record yourself doing nothing for hours and call it content what do you want us to do people watch it funny memes mean doing nothing i was running away from dogs in an alleyway in the philippine that's something all right i like that they said calling special snowflakes it's like what what have we ever even done that we probably have at some point but yeah not not not not an often occurrence but patrick willams made a video about tlj that was really well made and talked about trying to enjoy a movie and focusing on the experience and not searching for plot holes these dirt bags did a multiple hours long video where they constantly paused it and laughed out loud through the whole thing that's where i decided that no one who watches these dicks is worth my time oh no we laughed at his hero patrick willams um but yeah this shit is gold to me i can't believe we make people feel this way this is insane it's like how do you get this from epham i'm sorry that you feel that much about anything it's it's hard didn't it people are so invested in fandom any criticism taken as a personal in different opinion silly you're cutting out a little bit i don't know sorry like random words sorry about that uh no i was just saying that it's it's strange how people are so invested in their fandoms that any criticism feels like a personal attack on them and not a difference of opinion which you're entitled to i mean i don't know anybody who can have you ever hit so we'll say you're not entitled to an opinion especially when it comes to movies i wish i wasn't such a dirt bag so weird will we live in there are some memes can i get them ready this is my favorite part it's not a huge amount but they're all related to this wonderful stream huh wow no momentum you know how it be with the memes sometimes people don't think it'd be like it is but it do people don't think it'd be like that but it do alan in the middle i like that alan in the middle oh i wasn't a woman so that's cool alan you're embarrassing me this is actually relatively deep rappers but i think we all know it alan alan this guy is just it's like his imaginary friend alan in the middle i swear how mario ruined the game of thrones he eventually got there i swear oh this goes all the way to the beginning spy tonight now he's shooting people in different ways tom bale samuel l canes and dyer ledger coby oldman john eckhart jake jill and hall wait actually oh damn oh yeah that actually works i didn't think about that the marissa free but and that is it for me marus um very good work guys very quick turn around oh yes obedient wonderful stuff um i guess i'll start uh reading the good old super chats because it's actually all of i mean i've got a backup tonal video but i always feel bad about doing tonal without wolf being here because wolf you know tonal's his favorite and i feel like it would be really evil to take that away from him yeah um but yes that video wasn't very good wisecrack might still be decent as a channel overall i don't want this stuff not a great first impression though i'm sure you guys would agree yeah definitely not um definitely not good i mean they've got videos apparently they're criticizing like the story writing or the analysis of the plot of game of thrones i'm like i'm curious if they actually ripped into it or if they tried to take like a weird middle ground of some kind and avoid uh take advantage of both sides of the argument but sometimes can damage your channel to do that so i'm curious but the idea was misleading though oh yeah it's the whole fucking video is misleading we had no idea where we were going it is opening this is about video games what it's not about video games it's actually about psychology and how you like the middle what no actually it's about roman uh greek ampitheaters what it's crazy um schizophrenic lucky benus 11 and have you guys seen lucky number 11 yeah a long time ago i like that move it's good it was fun anyway it was about all the loads of different uh assassins right to a degree trying to get one target like two big powerful people in a city trying to get each of the killed by accidents okay i think i can't well i remember is the this is a big twist and i remember what it is still so huge ensemble cast yeah i have seen it i do remember being like yeah it's okay about it it was a long time ago yesterday wisecrack released a video saying anime is fascist all right hi rags hi hey hello all my smelly niece that is a reference to they didn't put the last word on there ooh response to wisecrack good they've been really clickbait lately may the blessed pipe man and the dawn bless the stream if they did rags loves them being a sticked cumba bath water oh that's something we could ask hey cynic snacks if someone willingly purchases another person's bath water and drinks it do they deserve to get herpes um it really depends on their knowledge of the behaviors and hygiene of the person they're purchasing it from and if it is safe to assume that there's probably going to be some in the water then that's your own fault so you would define how much someone deserves a thing by how much is their fault that the circumstances take place well yeah because if they think there's a if you know you you can estimate i guess but on your knowledge of the individual what is the pot like percentage chance that the bath water is going to contain herpes and then you drink it based on that tell us how we'd find that out i guess just knowledge of their intimate personal life and how many partners they've had or how they behave so what so you're saying that if it was a random person's bath water that you decided yes i will drink this you don't deserve to get herpes well if you don't have any information to go off then that in itself is a stupid thing to make you you couldn't possibly figure out the so you're basically do you do deserve herpes let me let's uh let me ask you this if you are a doctor and you go to work in a leper colony do you deserve to get leprosy um you don't deserve to get it no but it is a risk of the job all right so you don't okay all right just all right just curious have to be willing to get it but you don't deserve it at all so we're talking about bell delphine's bath water now there was there was a debate you say bath water and everybody just assumes we're talking about bell i'm just saying because it wasn't there i think there was a smear campaign saying people drunk here and they got herpes and it was all fake clickbait oh yeah it was all bullshit yeah yeah and i doubt i i don't even think it's genuine bath water honestly just i think she would i think she would be putting herself in huge legal trouble if she actually sold that although she did send a parcel containing a Tupperware of a probably about a week's worth of spit oh my god she sent that to Ethan Klein oh yeah no way as a present yeah i would have opened it up on stream and looked at it and it was all like milky and thick and gross oh god that's her cum that's her lady cum but yeah the next do you think you you might do merchandise that caliber you're thinking imagine you can tell me cheese you're gonna put some cheese i'd never do i'd never do liquids but you do solids oh god hey i'm not saying anything so crumbs and pepperoni did you just assume that i'd make solids no he's assumed you have solids a part of you that you would rip off yourself and sell to people yeah maybe if they would regenerate mm-hmm um your law is really confusing snacks regenerating pizza i don't know it makes sense because he wouldn't last very long if he was just a sentient pizza like a couple days gotta fall the fuck apart he was a particularly greasy one he was like sealed completely and then you know there's a lot of other questions there with the biology so you're applying a lots of assumptions to my existence i am that is what what i does you you have a mouth so presumably you have the entire digestive system so presumably you do poo as well do you poo out the back or at the bottom of the triangle the bottom of the triangle is uh my weenis oh that makes sense but so much like how you humans can expel you humans liquids from your body through sweating i do that with all of my waist so all of it just comes out in the form of grease through my front oh i thought that whatever you ate became your topping oh no i'm always mushroom okay that's just my race should we wear a new race we will prevail that's a beautiful piece of fan art really oh where uh yeah with the classic it's it's just resurfaces all the time the it all started with uh it all comes down to bathwater leading to a discussion on what does it mean to deserve an event occur to you something to happen to you what does it mean to deserve something the very interesting one i like asking everybody i asked jeremy on geeks and gamers and he said they absolutely deserve to get herpes if they drink someone's bathwater i mean yeah what do you what's the best you can hope to achieve from consuming bathwater of a person i don't know what's your like what's your like best possible outcome they just get the nice taste that they're after and they get a sense of catharsis in mentally and physically a little bit of thirst quenching perhaps hello people it wouldn't taste no it probably wouldn't here's the thing can can so can something like herpes survive in water because there's no host i think people did actually say that you can't get it like that or something i don't know it's no you can't transfer that just through can't water contact otherwise everyone would have it surely like swimming parasites parasites color or thing waterborne diseases sure if she's a very dirty girl you could have those weird worms that call up your urethra so you drink the bathwater and then suddenly you've got a pain in your crank so piss worms yeah piss worms beautiful beautiful piss worms from bell delphin that's what you can put on your twitter and get validated by everyone that's a good uh video title you get a probably about a yep and i would and i would bring it back to super mario how super mario causes piss worms oh my goodness no you're gonna make it sound more pomo mario why did you make piss worms the intrinsic value of mario piss worms there you go gotta gotta have the big words gotta have the big way it sounds smart you gotta ham up the the snooty far tougher you know that's how you do it you can pull video i the amount of times they've been tempted to set up a satire essay channel with really obvious piss taking i've always it's it's ripe for for the taking there's so many of these pseudo intellectual assayists it's a gold mine to exploit and and you know i don't mean to kiss your ass here but thank fuck for efap to to pull the pull off the veil of these assayists and go guys some of them are a bit pseudo intellectual we're offering a counterpoint because there's not many counterpoints to these assayists everyone takes their word at face level it's just their opinion they can't be wrong if it's just their opinion no i'm sorry we're just twisted shells of man yeah i was gonna say that's what happens when we respond but hey we couldn't do today without you guys to you guys are doing your good work as well stopping these people um the next one says hi rags wish me a happy birthday you massive that's from cody opperman cody opperman happy birthday here you go cody yeah don't don't blow it go and do something fun and amazing and enjoy your birthday yeah just i don't know take a nap man just have a good wank and tell yourself you ain't gonna clean it up till morning just just sleep in that shit just let it get all crusty all over yourself and make sure you say this is my favorite part this is my favorite part you're gonna sound deader just goes dead as if this is my favorite part this is my favorite part this is my favorite part what if jesus was a commie how do we know that he might have been if you subjectively drank bath water could you objectively get herpes i think we just answered that in the entire discussion honestly several times clearly follow up question from that same person rags finger me until your brow furrows say what no no the first part but uh it's just one part really okay then the last part rags finger me until your brow furrows um oh there's your answer right there that's an agreement normally that's not normally that's not an action that would cause my brow to furrow mola what are your thoughts on phase four of the mcu unless i was trying to find your butt and i was like maybe squinting you know kind of looking for it but generally it's an easy thing to find i'm not going to encourage about phase four of the mcu the only movies i really want to see from all the ones that have been announced is blade out of curiosity and dr strange too because they said it would be a horror and scala which is in it which interests me they don't really care about love and thunder don't really care about the tv shows i might give them a shot but um and then that seems to be about it phase four looks pretty dull so far uh i want to see god in three there's gotta be some surprise announcements for phase four that they're like keeping because that that that initial announcement lineup is pretty bare oh blade is phase five okay fair enough um fun hypothetical how would you take the elements of Wakanda put into a medieval setting have them be imperialists and have them be an antagonist uh how would why i thought what the whole point of Wakanda was that they were only imperialist at the beginning and then they stopped for no reason you know because only white people would continue to conquer things at least that's what everyone told me a lot that sounds a lot like a great a comic series called green valley which started a few years ago where there's a guy who travels back in time to like the medieval times um and they all think that he's a wizard but he's actually just got like an ipad that can do cool shit but yeah so how would you take the elements and put into an medieval setting i would probably make them really terrifying actually as a faction remember that story we came up with there's like a just a ring of bones around their entire black walkers and every time someone sees like any one of that which means he's racist oh absolutely we're all racist year it's okay because um it means uh it means that you're honest because everybody everything is racist everything you want to know why you just got to point out why do they do that because they're so deadly and terrifying people like don't even see them so they just call them the black death because it's like the plague it just happens and sweeps through it it kills that sounds like you're trying to justify racism right it's disgusting also they're from africa an illustrator for the designing stuff for game of thrones fifth season mog park is gonna be at hawaii con should uh what question should i ask if i get the chance uh he was responsible for designing what stuff for game of thrones fifth season um ask what he thinks of the layers the how it ends do what he says i couldn't he design a better script but he has no influence on the script that paul yeah maybe should have should have burned it down hi all hope you'll cover tonal soon been a while oh i'm sure we will we got plenty of uh absolutely got plenty of things there's a couple things i've got to talk about at the end of when i get to the end of the super chest like fun things ahead i talked about it on someone's stream but i haven't talked about it you the only drag that's acceptable is behind a truck that's mean i just wait i was just watching the jack eric street no drag air drag like air resistance you get the the drag i thought they were talking about dragging bodies no no no not dragging personal uh i was just watching the jack eric stream in response to efab so much pain but anyway guys they did it okay the way that they did it rhino milk on me i'm glad they had fun and i'm hoping i hope their audience had fun as well they sound like a bunch of dirtbags they sound like shells of men yeah husks hello guys i'm very glad to see snacks and pikemen back on i unfortunately won't be able to catch efab live anymore because of my new job but i'll still try and get a super chat in whenever i can no problemo mr chip chibilly chip to be there just quit just check them out when they re-upload it'll all still be there this is for rags thanks rags wish you're welcome yeah i don't know what the thanks was full but yeah yeah i don't either um i'll be back i'm salad king all right see you wouldn't well two episodes ago i misspelled pat parick willams on sc and you pronounced it ever since then i've had night terrors panic attacks and have relapsed into my gambling addiction i feel dead inside also hi rags hello hi movie movie panic attacks movie binge update brave heart great but suffers heavily for one of the worst written romances i think i've seen in cinema wow both were so rushed oh yeah i know that's just that's just scottish romance scottish medieval romance they just didn't know how to do it back then didn't know how uh when will you guys do another efab gaming there's no real limit on it or expectation we just sort of jump in but there is one we've sort of been planning so again not like probably not within the next few weeks because we've got plans for stuff but yeah it's not something we don't want to do we do want to do i wasn't there talks of of efab and great british podcasts we we do a gaming session or something left for dead or something like that i don't work if there's six of us well it's got the the versus mode so we can get a couple of games rags hate this is not we weren't going to do it i'll play it for the set i'll play it for efab um hey the other problem is that versus mode doesn't work unless we actually split into teams like you know the idea that we can't plan anything if we're literally talking to the people who are trying to plan things against i no no that's that's the fun part i think you think play rocket league yeah i think rocket league would be better if everyone had that yeah we can do that i haven't played it but i think i've got it that you know what that could work i also want to do like an actual just you know we all respond to a video the six of us i think that'd be cool a big shouting match basically you would have to be totaled we'd have to save it we've got plenty of total to work with so yes uh more just started playing re4 any tips um not really re4 is very uh very rewarding to just playing in lots of different styles so you should be fine uh just be careful i would recommend playing on harder difficulties to increase the potential scare factor but if you just want to play the way you want to play go for it i love re4 he wants to play resident evil four apparently he's just started it he's saying any tips um honestly it's kind of just go through it as you go through it just look for stuff look for goodies keep looking around yeah look around um but you'll learn as you go it is one of my favorite games of all time i own it for four different systems i probably agree with that draw out every single level in that game in my head i've played it so many times uh me mento update bpm adoption question bpm in fact i need to install resident evil four i do want me to ask did i mean i'm pretty sure cynics naks was on the adult of the stream we talked all about it so i'm not uh sure who you're speaking to directly maybe uh you know vox just do you think orphans deserve love that's a no he's saying silent out of respect because he's an orphan too but he knows the truth uh disney star wars is the adaptation though source material is the original trilogy you could say that but that doesn't make it true second it's the continuity hasn't changed you got everything is the same um at that point it's like talking about what is canon and what isn't you can have head canon but the reality the only meaningful thing you can say about canon is just who owns the ip and then claims what is canon it kind of sucks but everything else gets is me um disney star wars isn't an adaptation just the continuation um the sequel yeah yeah it would be defined as a sequel while homecoming would not be a sequel to the comics masses you need to watch jojo's bizarre adventure is so unique you'll never watch a show like it plus each wait wait did you say jojo's bizarre bizarre adventure mm-hmm is that a motherfucking jojo reference i think so each part has different characters and tones you'll find a part you like oh yeah any e-fab can be 24 hours if we super chat enough technically well i can only stay for another maybe hour and a half i think we should be done in around an hour at most that would be my guest oh boy um oh boy hey wolf have you seen the two konosuba ova is they're good but one is so i will i will just copy this to save it for the if wolf is in the chat then this is a super chat towards the chat so someone in the chat i get it i don't think he is though maybe that man is working his everything's i guess how can i hate how can i hate fuck rags when i'm not gay but he's so lovable asking for a friend um maybe it's not the gay part it's the hating part you'd have to one get yourself in a position where well um you would have to be gay or just bite the bullet for a bit uh then you'll learn to like it but you'd also have to find a way to hate me which many have found a way to do but often for terrible reasons and you don't want to do that if you want it to really be a hate fuck then you have to hate me for like a real reason you know uh you guys should invite arch warhammer on efab i believe he is uh he's actually on board right yeah yeah yeah it'll happen eventually oh yeah you bet please help my siblings actually like the last jedi what should i do disown them forcefully re-educate them or just have them humanely destroyed uh the latter i mean tell him you know doesn't have to be humane though it's all right they'll get over it one day it's okay they'll recover it's like a it's actually kind of like leprosy you think there's just things keep falling off but someday someone cured it that's uh you know that analogy works perfectly now show me on the map with a bad man touched you oh no get it join efab here don being man-loved thumbs up i mean he is the dog blessed be the pipe man also high rags hello captain mom he sent a berculus is upon you oh no captain mar will touch his stan lee's mall rat screenplay i know and he could have killed it it would have been law lawfully legally lawful yep he didn't because he's a nice man he had all the right it's like palestinian slingshots are rock israel drops cluster bombs in retaliation yeah but it's as long as it's justified legally which we really topical we can trust legal legal right guys i'm he seems like a good guy he's a stand-up gentleman uh thanks for entertaining me on my 14 hour car drive oh no this efab won't be long enough 14 hours wait we'll be able to put out one that's going to be longer eventually lollipop man bad efab on trousers wait efab on trousers off milk rhino spiders mystic yep it's toxic time i can imagine cheerleaders doing that before the big game the efab game that'll be the little cheerlead us against great british podcast it's gonna be so awkward because i'll be betraying my british brethren but i have to i have no choice and the colonies are pretty cool guys check them out i'm mola rags pizza man and blessed pipe man hello band is back again oh good for you costume department i'm not even sure that's right the real hero of shazam is that stupid news report yes uh so i mean do you guys care about shazam spoilers no so far away so as you probably are aware he's like a kid and when he says shazam he turns into the adult superhero man who's like super invincible and awesome and everything and when he says shazam again he turns into the very vulnerable kid um so the villains chasing him and villains like doing a pretty good job beating the shit out of him and um he gets like spooked and so he goes shazam in the middle of the fight and runs off so like the villain doesn't know where he is because obviously he doesn't know he's like oh a kid what the fuck and he walks up he's just walking around like looking for him and then there's this news report that's playing this clip from earlier where shazam in his adult form was talking to a friend of his who knows him as the younger one calling him by his like name i think his name's billy i don't know if i remember and then the villain looks at that report like hmm that kid clearly knows who shazam is in kid form and then he literally just pans to the left and that same kid is standing there going hey billy where are you billy billy the villain is like and grabs him and yeah it's like the only thing that allows the villain to find the hero in the whole plot line it's like so bad when i was watching it because watching last night all the night before i can't remember with um with metal we had drinks and fucking hell we were laughing to that shit we were like one of the fucking odds that a news report plays the exact thing he needs and then the kid of the news report turns up to the left of the news report saying the exact same thing it was funny uh shazam wasn't very good i'm afraid i had fun with it but holy shit the right of the special when you um when you described it i thought it was like supposed to be a joke in the movie no it was just really bad uh very minor detail slash flubs like the ones that shazam director mentioned don't matter as much as contrivance his plot holes and character inconsistencies do yeah yeah agreed there are two different things yeah why are rags and vox is so much better than everyone else treat my prostate like a misbehaving ketchup bottle please we'll slap that we'll slap some discipline india um i told you i'd be back hi rags please spend this irresponsibly all right for 10 you know it uh dear efab would you rather get a tattoo of brie larson's face on your forearm or get a tramp stamp of quinton with his alternate facial hair behind mr man's where oh yeah um hmm i can i would i'd do the brie larson for on my forearm yeah yeah because i don't want to have to explain to people when they pull down my pants and they're staring at my ass i don't want to that's really not the ideal time to get into some kind of a excuse i'd have to come up with as to why i have a picture of a strange ugly mongoloid on the back on the top of my crack i would rather you know clinton you well the captain marvel what you could just say like yeah i lost a bet but with the quinton one you'd be like okay saying i lost a bet does not explain this enough i'm sorry this is just a disaster i mean i would probably be able to come up with some non humiliating reason to have captain marvel's face on my forearm and it could be like the back of the forearm or something like that yeah and then you could like add you could slowly but surely add all the other faces of the the marvel superheroes to it until you had a like a collage of all the superheroes so it wouldn't be a big deal if captain marvel was there because everyone was there um and then you could put like gandalf on there and you know blade and all sorts of other stuff you know i mean he didn't say we can't get it removed immediately after no i i think it's the spirit of the question i know but i like you have to know how to read you gotta poke the holes you gotta find them holes and poke them you do and when people poke my holes i don't want to be fucking be staring at quinton's face especially some of his uh his latest iterations oh man he look what an ugly person hey jesus christ uh rags you gotta make a video of wolf is tied youngblood um i am going to do a review on it yes probably my next review that i'll be out uh next week or so but now that my throat's a whole lot better i can you know do those which is good man yeah youngblood is kind of next on my list i want to get that knocked out oh and by the way since we're talking about wolfenstein uh the quake con sale on steam they got some pretty good stuff they got prey for like six bucks they've got um the new order for like seven dollars the evil within two's 15 there's some good stuff in there and if you haven't played if you haven't played oblivion yet you gotta you gotta play oblivion it's legit amazing um two snacks from my ass um ten dollars from salad king to to your ass i guess uh cynic snacks as much as you're muted i know you appreciate that um and toss pot you can only have this if you tell us what you're a profession professatism of a professatist of there you go what's the question what's the question what are you a professor of uh i'm professor toss pot um what did you say professor of what that's not wrong i'm professor toss pot that's that's that's all there is to it uh that's all you need these these day and age isn't it all right fine just me i'll be in i'll be in a fucking video essay talking about psychology soon and people will you will be cited um and found some way to shoehorn some postmodernist theory into some bollocks i don't know on the topic of how mario ruined game of thrones mario put the coffee cup on the table it'll make sense now i mean it's just funny that that's such a minor issue like the stupid starbucks cup they actually made fun of it the covacog cattle a canal panel they had um everybody had a coffee cup where they came out yeah a rags did you know any salad can be a caesar salad if you stab it enough i get that that's true that's very true don't forget to get dan and davon efab also i could be meeting tom hiddleston charlie cox and jake jillian hall soon in new york city cool hmm what for an orgy what's what's the context what else would they be being them for i've heard the rumors about tom holland tim larrow that sounds like violence towards my people i'm not oh because he said salad king i guess would be yeah if you stab salad king enough you'll turn into a caesar salad king that makes sense true skittles made a giraffe milking commercial oh what's wrong with rhinos kind of racist but all right molla please tell oof oof why the news report on the tv screen in the mall in shazam is contrived and stupid i think we covered it if someone wanted to say that wasn't contrived i would that would be the most like that's why when he explained it to me i thought it was supposed to be a joke and like the comedy movie and they played off as a joke that oh you just happen to be right there as any of you guys played gris if not used this to get it it's only about three hours long between the best games of 2018 in my opinion also high rags hello um i've heard of gris but i have not played it i have not here in america we have what is called grits and you can kiss you heard of it it's my grits that's a saying right uh no but if you told someone to kiss your grits i don't know how they'd react something bot says in simpson so it has to be related to america somehow kiss my grits yes okay it's simpson's never been wrong about anything they predict the future regularly also high rags hello the mcu is the cooked bagel of cinema yeah i think they proved that most modern tv shows are basically serialized movies with episode lengths of 40 minutes or more well this is the thing he didn't consider a lot of context to how media is being made these days but the fact that we still have contained episodics tv shows alongside like really long narrative ones like i don't know you can't really crush all of these informations into a 12 minute video trying to explain why endgame succeeded where game of thrones did not it wasn't really 12 minutes because they had the wix ad yeah it was more like nine i guess generous um did tonald ev end up making a video where he yells uh i checked it out he doesn't yell but he gets more passionate than i think we've ever seen him so we will become really i told wolf about it and he was very excited um it's about how fifa is starting to make more money from its microtransactions than the sales of its games and so they're gonna be putting more and more into it i guess and he's very upset because he loves fifa oh yeah i can see no i i can see why that really would upset him yeah yeah it's gonna be great it sucks to see things that you really care about i just kind of die like that or at least get turned into something else and gree slow and all down sorry i'm late wasn't notified because i left my house right when it started i guess it's okay what do you think about in the metal gear series i've never played it i've only played five and i really liked it oh there you go we're the worst people to ask a parent well close to it anyway uh because i know that people fucking get to all that series and i've like yeah i've missed out on it completely uh when something needs to happen you get the predator you get a lot of stuff like definitely one of them though the pipeman has blessed the toxic brood very true we are blessed i feel i feel blessed that name's never gonna leave me nice to why would you want it to it's not a bad name a powerful name and you have a high standing in the law you could probably make some executive decisions really you're all fired this is my show now uh could you look at those women um that's probably referencing something in the video uh when movies wait what was it i don't know when were the women in the video i wouldn't pay attention maybe in the mobile ads there were some women in there oh yeah yeah in the mobile ad looking at women this is my favorite part when movies first came out people would sit and watch a person sitting in chairs for hours what does this dude on um how does he explain something like empire strikes back where you know like the narrative is not finished whatsoever and yet it was one big middle yeah it's one big middle i'm all i loved your ea survey video also hi rags hello yeah i work really hard on that ea survey video tough one lucky yeah pizza man bad oh also a high blessed pipeman and pizza man hello pizza man is burping right now he's currently consuming uh one of his brother is recrusting oh i told you he's got a digestive system he's gonna eat something and then he's gonna poop it out i'm so curious where the poop comes out watching captain marvel with my parents at the dawn scene i felt a small tear in his struggle for which i was accused of massiveness no yeah it's kind of hard to i don't know if i if i for whatever fucked up reason if i watch that movie for another time i don't know how i'd be able to handle it i'd be emotional i'd leave the room at that scene i think out of out of in solidarity with dawn i would surprise they allow it like on screen like i don't know if there's a rating above r but you need to have it call it the dawn rule the dawn missed you guys past two while they were live so here's a bunch more for alcohol and wherever else is needed oh i can have lots of alcohol in this program now it'll make everything more coherent this way i mean i listen to efab 24 hours a day oh if taylor listens to efab 24 hours a day then that means efab is just one giant middle no ending there's no beginning oh no if you go back to episode one if you go back to episode one it sounds like it's not really the beginning it's just a continuation of like you could watch them all out of order i know you wouldn't be able to tell the difference no progression no learning it's all a medal here's 20 more for recuperation costs oh i remember that meme uh that means more than never stopped writing star wars critiques he merely pauses endless man bad also hi mom who's who's the most man bad yeah that'll be the doobie but people say like walla never finishes a point endless man bad well they'll find something except when when our guys say it's like a meme but to other people who hate us it's like their legit way of saying that we're bad we're with with shells of men laughing at patrick willom uh i love the word nightmare for those people because i put out a tweet uh that just said like i i enjoy the creature they've created on that subreddit the the villain that is baller and how horribly e-fab is just like what is this craziness like this is closely resemblance whatsoever like oh this guy he seems like a really bad dude i hope i don't run into him in a dark alley have you ever been tempted to hop on to it and say behold we are we are your arch nemesis bow before us you shits uh so i think they'd be like you know we will fight you we will call the police we'll stop you you're destroying film criticism why didn't you just mess with their minds and say well there's a reason i always wear a mask and that's because i am patrick willams and this has just been a massive ruse wait it's pretty cool to have that power though so like we've you know no one's no one's seen your face except for a select few i don't want to see it um am i real am i just a meme that came to be this is from the profile fred the cosmic chicken i think we just came to understand you yeah you're always there you're always there we sort of only recently saw a light lalin versus the dawn does lalin really stand a chance i don't know if that's fair you need like all you need the entire e-fab rose gallery against the dawn i'd say uh richard a's asshole aka alan the plots don't exist nope there's no there's only one big plot that's it the alan is the anti-dawn wait is it alan alan or alan chat i can't remember how they spelt it in the video but just go with all three of them i think it's the i oops i uh solving some water i think it's the pretension wave sink all in yep now i'm sure he has a punch we think a veg's mid game i mean end game isn't the end got another film already it's not over not everyone died the universe didn't get destroyed so it's not over never over uh me grog like boobies in metal chair story yeah that's what it used to be man but then but then we regressed again into primordial whose artwork repeating alan reminds me of jp3's talking raptor and someone made a meme for it yep you're on the ball that's the link to super mario brothers you skip the middle levels with the warp zones he's not obvious with a lot of the meaning behind it and we took that for granted this alan guy sounds like a massive bundle of sticks speaking of which high rags good to have you back if i've just isn't the same when you're not a special guest it's true you're you are gone for 7 000 episodes that's crazy luckily there's 13 600 episodes of efab and we recorded 2000 today at least so not bad uh this that's pretty good this alan guy's all ends all all beginnings and ends no middles no middles we don't like the middles around here um grog thinks alan sound like filthy woodlover does not get grog's boulder is best and alan doesn't understand a lot about boulders he'd probably say that you shouldn't um shouldn't criticize boulders as well like you know even prehistoric art it's a tough life to live as alan you're gonna commit to those principles everyone's a million terminators predators and alien movies i know and it's horrible and they should all be murdered unless they're good films in which case yes bring more but we have not a good alien predator or terminator in oh i'm not even sure which one was the last good word type line alien predator terminator uh polls sucked since the second iteration of all of them i mean with salvation that bad no but i still don't like it it fucked with the timeline a lot um and i didn't like this weird human robot hybrid thing they did and i don't know i don't love it i don't hate it as much as the others though um because i'm trying to just sort of trying to think because i mean avp was terrible but almost in like a meme way i can enjoy avp yeah oh yeah i could probably watch that again and just laugh my ass off that would probably be a goody fat movies two parents give baby up for adoption is later they adopt a child if they don't realize it was the same child could they still love it oh wow this is like the track question in a way i think they would be told by a cosmic element perhaps a chicken that it is their adopted child they need to know like the universe can't allow that to happen hmm it's very interesting massives in the middle i love hitchhiker's guide to the middle middle school was a big turning point in alice like kill bill three or star trek tarantino plus jj did fine you asking which do i want to see or which do anyone want to see i don't really i don't kill bill needs a third and i don't really care about star trek so tarantino doing one doesn't even sound like it would make a lot of sense but i'll watch both of them because i like tarantino stuff yeah all right probably get some good tense negotiation scenes and then loads of blood splattering gun firing action yeah phasers just cutting people into pieces and zapping people and vaporizing them yeah and i love the use the n-word as well oh yes they start tricky a healthy amount this time able to super chat get on the bridge and yoga this time able to super chat but if it's not too much trouble i'd like your thoughts on my tweet at you arie game of throne season eight twitter handle hey that's a strange one i'll see if i can find it quickly um i don't know when or where to send this curious what you think feel free to discuss it also we want to be pondering about something i've never heard two things uh there are two things presented as very significant factors for denarius in regards to her taking king's landing the first is her losing her second dragon i can't really remember much how much losing the first dragon is discussed as a relevant tactical loss but it's probably major too uh the iron fleet killing a second dragon is definitely presented as a huge scale tipping against her though second thing is the men of the north joining her army the scene of her demanding sense to keep her word and the sending her man makes it seem like the an integral part of the invasion after we see that dany takes the city with virtually no losses having only one dragon almost completely by herself every scene even discussing her tactical preparation for the invasion feels incredibly hollow yeah you could have taken king's landing with more ease if she had done it at the end of season six when they're all heading over she could have just jumped over with drogon because they didn't even have scorpions at that point though she could have annihilated it with even more ease and it really makes a lot of the middle feel worthless but what do you want yeah hopefully that yeah i agree i love the middle of lesbian nun movie lesbian nun's movie oh it sounds like a porno i think that was me talking about uh adam kurtis and one of documentary goes on this weird tangent about so yeah all right uh middle no the story doesn't end here the end is just another middle one we must all wear un unashed togas to unhashed and unsached allen the white donald allen loke is the superior commentator me toga stinks me toga stinks his pubes are what we've are what we've to see the future what oh that's from fred the cosmic chicken okay oh uh is the middle just our great god speaks in such a deep metaphor is the middle just a concept like goliath is it the thing that spawned goliath is the middle the true enemy of the cosmic chicken i need ads i i think cynic would let you know that um or sorry not cynic um yeah yeah cynic snacks yeah i think you tell you that uh coliath is not just metaphor he's very very real very real however the middle might be metaphorical we will we're yet to see that yes steve uh he's not completely wrong about the final conclusion of endgame have you see what coming after endgame he's not completely wrong about the final conclusion of endgame have you see what coming after endgame don't understand he's asking us if are you aware of what's coming up after endgame so he's not really that wrong well i mean did anyone think it was gonna end with endgame no hmm uh yay my two favorite podcasts together mostly fantastic looking forward to listening later blessed be the pikeman etc etc he's got to get everybody death is not the end only the middle agreed oh no i touched the sims one time does that mean i'm doomed to an eternity in purgatory well you you've permanently paused yourself playing it but the thing is you didn't even have to play it to get to that point before you played it it was on pause that works wisecrack is like the child of movie bob and tonal um i don't see how movie bob is in there really because movie bob's kind of a psychopath wisecrack didn't seem to be a psychopath but we'll maybe maybe other videos uh it's a typical bad video it's not like he wants to murder people the ba there is the shortened version of blake alan i can officially confirm as an alan the goliath exists in the middle of bagels oh that makes a lot more sense now this video amounts to me hi me see nothing but middle everywhere that's a combo okay yeah wolf last e-fap me hi cheek said me hi yeah he was very high last year um a song whatever gets you through your e-fap a song of ice and fire will never end because george armand will never finish it is he telling me it's all middle is that what he's saying jesus star wall fandom and when disney kill it so it's all right um don't want to buy it off disney but you never know and then it just goes on again forever so it sounds like he's talking about heroine when he was talking about getting addicted to this stuff so that having a bad effect on you mm-hmm it applies to a lot of things humans do honestly the never-ending story smoking yes alcoholism self-abused the never-ending story ended that's true you'd think that would be the one that wouldn't end wouldn't you that that'd be the sort of placeholder for like how stories don't end you'd be like that'd be the one we'll make sure but nope even that one ended uh meme our love because they end why is he showing jojo about things ending it's on part eight and still going started 1987 and still going i think he actually referenced it as something that wasn't ending but i'd have to check the editing again just because game of thrones had a story that could have gone on forever doesn't mean that it was impossible to end it well it wasn't an easy task but to satisfy most people they only needed to come up with something that made sense people have unironically said it would be a better ending if they cut off the end of season six just let your imagination run as to what would have happened post that moment instead of showing us what they did so yes i agree remember that awful series with no middle that one called she noble um the whole thing was a middle i love that noble still exists you're noble i watched it all that night i just went through all the episodes i love it i pitched it that i was like i'll show you just one episode all right you're like okay no two no three no no the rest and i just went through the whole damn thing good shit uh did trump build the camp i'm not sure what that's referencing relation to the video maybe it was the camp from the walking dead game oh i mean if he was alive during a zombie apocalypse maybe does this game even exist on the app store is a good sheds it's already stopped like being so unpopular like i don't know uh great to see you on here again pikeman and snacks you two stay classy you stay awesome too molar and rags slice and dice do my best ever ever actually being classy oh yeah pretty classy pizzas are typically very classy like high-class people eat pizza i'm just got some high-end shit right there doing some pizza soup eating it ain't just any old ordinary food that can string to z's consecutively um play my favorite pie and slowed old boat we could have done that actually playing that slow the cosmic chicken will redeem us maybe at the end but according to this guy everything's a middle so will we even make it there i don't know um i think insults the human race has dethroned toxic brood i don't know that anything can dethrone toxic brood i don't know toxic brood is like all of us beautiful like you out there you're part of the toxic brood you're with us second you guessed on here and agree with anything we say in any way shape or form or even talk to us you're part of the toxic brood yeah i kind of feel that way about being an insult to the human race like i've only really interacted with twice if you interact with us twice you are an insult to the human race as well that's just how it goes well i apparently don't even have to interact with people at all to be like their buds so they're god of scott free i'm just a blessed pipe he's got the word blessed in his name these guys didn't appreciate my defending of you people as human beings so they banned me for being a sad dude and so the guys on that subreddit banned meme repository they did yep they sound like fun well this is the thing don't disagree with them opinion yeah you have to agree that we're all the worst pieces of humanity otherwise you're a bad person these are these are people who pride themselves on their ability to be critics they've said about us that we can't take criticism it's kind of like i don't know like you want to come on our podcast and talk about it oh that would be fun no i mean in terms of taking criticism we read it we read out the criticism live well they were they were just insults they were rigorous angelo merkel illegal opinions meme oh we'll get there one day i'm one of the massives that have yet to see the avengers end games boilers don't affect me though because i'll watch it in some years when no one cares also we all know why rags his throat was sore any who time to catch up why was it sore i'm actually kind of curious how my throat did get sore i guess he knows and he must have erased your memory so you would never know oh my goodness oh my god hey malrus rag pipe man and pizza face man love you all there's a special place in in the middle for wolf in my middle beautiful rag shag mary kill long man blessed pipe man or dick cheese pizza man killed dick cheese pizza man fuck long man and mary pipe man oh the beautiful ending for everyone except dick cheese man well that happened to somebody i always get killed i always get killed in these scenarios maybe it was the framing of you as dick cheese pizza man i probably threw you off yeah maybe didn't sound very appealing does it um debate rhino milk or herpes bathwater oh god for what for what exactly what determines the winner i don't know yeah you're trying to contract herpes yeah if you're trying to contract herpes then the herpes water might win out unless the rhino had herpes and even then i don't know if you can contract herpes from its species contamination no but then if it's just you know which is just better overall it's like i'll take the rhino milk it's got well regenerative power is your nutrient disease i believe it cures all diseases doesn't it well the chinese keep chopping off their horns for some reason there must be something good in there apparently they turn them into dick pills so maybe if you drink rhino milk you'll you'll have a dick like a rhino i don't know there you go do rhinos have big dicks i imagine they would because they're big i'm gonna go ahead and say maybe milk's gotta come somewhere like horses or something right um you should end this stream by reacting to the cat's trailer who here hasn't seen the cat's trailer oh no no no i mean i've already seen it so it's like you know i have nothing i have no investment in cats i had no say in the production of cats i didn't create it i didn't make it i have nothing going on with cats personally but when i watched the trailer i felt embarrassed for watching it i saw it and i thought what has science done yeah i had cringy face the whole thing i kind of had like the exact opposite to that in that i couldn't give a single shit about the musical story like i don't really know anything about it care but the fact that it looks so horrible kind of made me interested yeah well it's it's this weird uncanny sort of like it's not like a like a zootopia sort of thing where the animals are you know more like animals but they're cartoony and they're yeah they got that disney sort of style and they can express and emote and they could be really cute sea and all sorts of stuff these are just as weird uncanny valley sort of are they people are they like weird animals oh they creep me out why do they have tits with fur on them it looks like a kind of like a weird fever dream like you've cut some of our disease and everything's just yeah it's like they should be wearing i feel like they should be wearing clothes and if you gave them little outfits with bows and vests and things that would be so much better but fucking hell they they should be they should be wearing clothes it's very inappropriate for them to walk around it's freaky i could i could definitely see it being in like a top 10 films to watch Win Your Stone by 420.com or something it's it's unintentional win they'll win a 420 award next year for Derek Savidge get a raspberry that's for sure wait have you guys seen that no i haven't oh my days you know you know Derek Savidge yeah cool cats he started his own award award body basically uh he won biggest award ceremony in America um and he basically hired some like comedy club for the evening and everyone turned up i presume was just expecting a night of stand-up comedy but he turned it into his own award show for movies uh and he had like a juggler i mean a magician uh like loads of just like crap entertainers come on oh my god really he presented awards to like avengers and like a bunch of major like hollywood movies and just had random people come up and accept the awards on behalf of the companies and then he awarded himself best picture for his cool cat movie it's like it's a it's a real mess but it's it's kind of funny like a nice like a nice car crash what's interesting too is that cool cats are such a basic bitch for sona yeah but yeah uh if i was just gonna say if people wanted us to react to it you you basically got our coverage of it right there the cats thing so you don't need to see us watch that trailer and then i gotta worry about copyright too and it's just this whole yeah but who would claim caught who would claim responsibility for that the people who think it'll make money actually i don't even know if it will who i don't i don't even want to guess it's horrible uh if someone's on a movie will will cream cats oh the sonic movie is gonna kill it like so many people are gonna go turn out to see that for just out of morbid curiosity um if someone had the power to regenerate a lost limb will that limb that was last regenerate a clone of the person no i don't think that's how it all i think it's whatever it's like attached to the brain or the torso maybe it's like it's gonna be the brain or the heart right that's probably what the fiction would do and then you're like what if you half the brain or the heart then what happens well then you're dead you just die easy answer die hello rags hello hi if someone kneels in front of you with their mouth open do they deserve to end up with a sticky face asking for a friend well if someone kneels in front of me then like height wise the way this work i get what you're asking no no because listen you just assume you're assuming things because you need to get your mind out of the gutter you could be down there for all kinds of reasons such as such as i mean there's there's so there's so many it's hard to choose just one you know because there's so many reasons um so like a wisecrack it's like name a constellation is like oh i know so many i just it's hard for me to just say one you know because i i like them all so much and there's so many of them that i enjoy uh but yeah hi uh thanks for the zoomer chat you bet i mean i could have named one i don't know uh fine or ryan oh i mean that's the one everybody knows fine scorpio cancer which is this chat that's racism uh okay uh where is the gray doggy you will be back on the following yep it's out of a fiat just want to give rags my two cents i guess more can have the rest haha that's what it's funny because because no i'm sorry more or i put a very important straw poll in your server on the efab channel so this this straw poll is who is the big gay and the options are out of us four so do you guys think i should encourage such a poll or is that toxic to the toxic brood i think that's fine there's nothing wrong about asking people who they think the big gay is they're not calling them the big gay all right where is the poll i've posted it now in the chat i'm spamming it spam this guy moeller he's spamming the chat the vote on who you guys believe to be the big gay i am going to have to for ethics reasons excuse myself from voting in this poll i am completely objective i was able to vote on the correct answer oh wow who'd you vote for well i can't reveal that because it would tell everybody who the correct answer is instead of letting us know what everyone thinks the correct answer is yeah i suppose so oh this poll is lighting up oh dear rags oh dear rags rags oh dear i'm actually upset that i didn't get more votes oh you got plenty of votes um your second blaze still still plenty of games how does the dig cheese pizza oh to get six percent maybe maybe they they need to have the topping specified what are the biggest gayest toppings you can think of pineapple pineapple is a pretty gay topping yeah sausage is pretty gay sausage and pineapple why pineapple because it makes your cum taste better yeah i didn't even think of that why did you stick with that mushrooms no mushrooms are cool i i'm interested to know i always buy mushrooms it's one of my the i never forget to buy mushrooms when i go to the store the interesting part is pulled with anything is seeing yeah you really can't put just steak and other veggies and anything and with eggs fucking anything people are bringing up how i've how i read gay donut fiction oh yeah it's a mechanic true yeah that doesn't mean that you endorse it though uh i i do you what's gay donut right uh you know if you remember the story it was all about how gay donuts were persecuted and if there are any gay donuts watching this you have nothing to hide you know be yourself sprinkle yourself across the world um you will you will not see any harm from us we we endorse your lifestyle as a donut as a gay donut so yes and and there you go we are not toxic bad people so for those of you on reddits or whatever the bad mouthing these people we endorse gay donut rights i don't see any other progressives doing that do you exactly um i like the box it has one more vote over scenic snacks oh now it's drawn they really do think you guys share the big gay like it to an equal degree good to know i wonder if cj would have gotten all those or not what if we put wolf in this as well you never know let's let's just be glad they don't see that fan picture of me and snacks oh dear molesley you're awesome raggers i sent you an email blessed be the pikeman keep it longman malcom is the Loki of the middle all right 45 episodes later i finally catch up i wish we could like uh see a super chat for like in two two years in the future and just be like what the fuck does any of that mean oh like a long one that references a lot of things yeah yeah it'll be good um 45 episodes later and i finally catch up and i have to leave my house when i see your life it's okay there'll be another one it's fine this is the wolf by the way i just got into red letter media god bless don wilson and his wildlife preserve in iowa yeah i love red letter media john wilson they might i've got a couple i guess but they're one of my favorite channels right now just because there's nothing else like red letter media on youtube i i rewatch their stuff all the time i go into their best of the worst and i just i can rewatch those i don't actually care if they talk about films critically i just enjoy watching them hang out because they're like the most bizarre people ever but also hilarious they really meld together well they just bounce off each other so much and they're just funny and they could just keep it going anything with rich avans as well as just massively improved i chose that word specifically yeah because you mean to a large extent i'm saving up money for switches for cj and tossball don't worry mola oh is he already got one for you cynic snacks i already am in possession of one james is going to get all of us to have them and then we can do we can all play super smash brothers and then it'll be me rags and wolf this is you three uh james more is gonna buy you one easy now that's his that's his plan he he literally bought a switch for me wolf and rags yeah he's kind of crazy insane he's actually a little nuts i'm part of he's worried about him i think he's a lovely man and just he's he's a sugar daddy for a lot of people no i'm not completely unrelated no i'm building a new pc there you go james nudge nudge and you know it's hard getting the hearts and money for it yeah so if anyone wants to help oh my goodness james james more is like the reincarnation of the entire medici family i still think he's a saudi prince yeah they have a lot of money speaking of a versus mode vermin tide two is getting one when i don't know it's true yeah so high rags i think it's coming out with the winds of magic expansion which i'm extremely excited for i love vermin tide two these are my favorite games gel man of the toxic brood gel men yeah we are all kind of just shells once we did that first stream on patrick williams or third stream i don't remember which one it was we sort of just gave up on life we became shells pretty sad but people enjoy watching us shells so it's weird that hanging out with your friends and discussing your opinions and trying to come up with better systems to criticize things throwing around jokes and hanging out with people who will support you it's it's amazing how much that makes you an empty shell of a human being if only we knew how to live fulfilling internet lives and not be an insult to the human race yeah that was not even human so i mean anybody watches this is an extension of that an insult to the star wars fandom near 2000 yeah that's the worst we've got near 2000 insults to the human race watching us like Jesus that's fucked up guys we should all be erased a bunch of alright nazis yep i don't know why people dislike the soprano's ending so much i think it's great uh-huh i get it he cut out got the black i get it uh stream snipe sargon stinky wang is he streaming i guess he's i guess he's streaming now yeah streaming while efab is on what is he thinking denoyed what a beard mean loads meme cannon by rags oh no oh no um anime captain marvel is better than mcu marvel that's probably true everything is better than mcu marvel yeah hey rags can you sing akbar's theme for us again please love you guys can i sing can i sing akbar's theme yes there's actually a pretty funny meme video that will be shown soon enough uh i don't know if you remember what you said tentatively then yes i will you remember what you said akbar's theme was um um oh yes uh gaza yeets rockets so israel yeets hellfire missiles israel can't help it if gaza sucks at fighting palestinians are at uh the bath water of the midwest mid east you should have said middle east i wouldn't put a palestinian in my mouth microtransactions will lead to games only focusing on the middle so they'll never end alan was right or he was right uh watching he was trying to save us all along we should have listened we should have listened he was the hero we didn't deserve watching jack sainte say that your fans don't watch his entire videos and imply that he is taken out of context is the funniest shit of as of late yes no right it's great um and the fact that reddit said he made videos that are too long i was just like oh my gosh we're in the best timeline for some stuff i'm telling you man you made your bed and you gotta lay in it now did simpson's prediction the future or brainwash people into creating the future oh they predicted trump would be president in like the 90s or whatever did they make that happen do you think what did they predict yeah but i wonder how many other celebrities depicted as being a future president in cartoons i don't know what you mean like what is just him okay yep yeah you can't we gotta can't engage in the sharpshooter's fallacy i'm coming for that booty efap oh no mr rach do you know if slash where i can catch up on arch's nazi zombie dnd campaign and what it's called on arch warhammer's channel is it as simple as that or is he like got him enlisted yeah it's on the oh yeah it's on his channel and so far we stream it on wednesdays so they'll the episode should be there uh also take this money you deserve it you good boy oh oh thank you and we have scala grim or metatron as a guest i don't know either of them i'd be totally down for having scala grim on i haven't really watched metatron that much all right there you go um they played us like a damn middle hey snacks i don't know if you have seven one one in the uk it's a store people buy snacks from they stole your idea of a living snacks and they now sell living snack plush dolls i think of you every time i see the pizza boy what no fucking way buy one and send us a picture yes and where do you live you said that uh it was silo 101 just just at cynic snacks on twitter with that same comment silo and then you guys can figure out getting some pictures and see this plagiarism um i just realized that in the mcu where is earth in midgard dun dun dun the middle oh no been rewatching old e-fabs why is quintin such a dickhead well i don't actually know like i think he's he's sort of a case study yeah very fascinating one i like that it was you could actually argue that his our response to him is the first event in a series of events that just made him crash and burn not that we caused it just that that seems to be the way it goes because the trump thing happens soon after that right and then after that lots of other things and and yeah he's just um maul it would appear that that chat is really angry at you for not realizing that the shop is called 711 oh i said 711 right yeah oh no oh my god you weren't referring to 711 right i thought that was a actual thing over there we don't have 711 oh my goodness maul or no no 711 i read numbers as numbers what am i supposed to do well from from this day forth it shall be known as 7 the 7 would one guys in the chat need to change your fucking tone rags it reminds me of um a shit you show me with gold bookdoll to wherever he refers to 911 what is 911 the like the phone number 9 what he's like 911 was a national reminds me of that tragedy no mcdonald is a national treasure um but anyways guys got to work now have fun destroying whatever massive garbage you're covering oh we did oh you bet why does rags diss the drunken peasants ben's cool yeah that's a cool guy do you want to answer the first part of the question or these are why did you diss the drunken peasants oh because we're on their show and i will poke fun of the drunken peasants we had fun on their show though yeah they've had fun on just the way like their ads and stuff are structured is really odd almost like it's a radio show in a weird way i think ben is very much inspired by radio shows actually he said this we're uh we're spending a lot of his younger life so he's inspired to make his own show like that and then video is like a bonus thing and there's there's there's definitely influence of drunken peasants in efab funnily enough and we've had a lot of um bleed over like a lot of people say they watch both shows and i was just we don't cover politics that much or that many quote unquote crazy people but i mean there's an argument to be made for movie bob i mean they're not like crazy i mean if you actually kind of listen to them they're sort of insane but not like they're like high functioning crazy people yeah it's a wonderful little thing you know what does fried cosmic chicken taste like no one's ever eaten cosmic chickens i'm gonna say that's pretty difficult if there was an instance of that occurring i think we'd be aware of it yeah it seems to be a catastrophic event um the audio from this video will serve the goliath saga well speaking of everyone say see goliath please see goliath please see goliath see goliath see goliath he probably wants that for a meme video oh wait oh he meant like see goliath not see goliath please so i should say see goliath does sound like it's like a goliath that is yeah like a like you could have a lava goliath and a sea goliath yeah see goliath yeah it's gonna be okay we'll do it goliath king of the monsters okay we'll do a dramatic take shall we uh well like you want to do a dramatic go for it see goliath once more with feeling go for it wait who's going i've already done mine oh see goliath see goliath okay okay uh can we hear pounded by the pound oh that's that's a chuck tingle no um i guess pounded by the pound yes there's pounded in the butt by my own butt and there's also it's called pounded by the pound pounded by the pound the pounded by the social economic uh something changes of england leaving the european union it's actually got a longer title but it's a chuck tingle uh chuck tingle story about someone being that's a different guy being pounded by a pound coin but if you want some chuck tingle read on your podcast i don't know if there's any time but i do have some of his stories in my library is rags familiar with chuck tingle i think uh yeah you didn't you read out some of his book titles on one of your early podcasts yes uh we i read the gay dominance yeah more love when he was on the great british book podcast he got subjected to some of chuck tingles i think it was the sentient gay plane that jerks off onto someone and they get covered in cum and also the plane is actually a card player as well a really good poker player oh there's loads of fucking weird stories right themselves the chuck tingle cinematic universe sounds pretty impressive uh but yeah i don't know if people want want a reading to them it's up to you uh you guys should check out the 1996 movie island of dr morrow it's a beautiful mess of a movie val kilmer is a big doodoo and malin brando is fun i think i'm familiar with that i've heard of this movie you'll like redlar medium might have mentioned it not actually covered it somebody's mentioned it and talked about it so i remember i didn't oh wow i'm just looking at some screenshot here kind of like if planet the apes made with a with no budget yeah was that term in brando's career when he was going off the pen he soon is insane and he kept making weird demands of the director and pissing off the director who's he got very loopy he's in superman he's in one of the super movies he plays um superman's dad and he was absolutely fucking nutty kept winding up the director saying uh i want to play this role like i'm a cabbage and the directors just says to just just play the fucking well malin but he he he he was insane and absolutely he just wanted to be a vegetable that's all he wanted i don't know man i don't think you should take that away from anybody you know i think that that's important and i think people want to identify as a vegetable and you should who are we to say no who are we to say no uh rags you look good today did you change your hair oh yeah i did i um no i didn't it's the same i that's that's the thing because you just sort of let it do what it does that's why that's the secret it's my secret i just let it do what it needs to do and it's never let me down people don't think it'd be like it do but it do also mauler if you've got the star trek reading order i sent you because sure to read the addendum at the end as i forgot tng season six and seven oh me and me and mel if we watch star trek if uh we're just gonna watch it in chronological order like everyone else people recommended a viewing order for um uh clomors and me and for two we're just like we're just watching chronological order don't worry we'll survive it'll be fine it'll be fine um me hi shakes me hi me hi shakes me hi they paid two dollars to say that well that was two dollars well spent true glad to see me hi shakes me hi foundation glad to see my response to steve when over your heads i was answering the previous super chat with yes steve one okay sorry i uh my brain melts when i when i try to connect all the pieces and put the jigsaw pieces in the pieces of the jigsaw at the same time you know you know a lot of people accidentally pronounce it jinx saw because they're really dumb when they're young wait for a jigsaw yeah they pronounce it jinx saw like people in my school used to do it and the teachers always get really frustrated it's not jinx a jinx saw jinx saw it's really dumb um what about like a pescetti that's and and the one that annoys david michel um being expresso oh yeah yeah i had an old boss who was really uh irritated about that and the one that i enjoy that annoys rags because it annoys the fuck out of me as well the um i could i could i could kill it oh yeah yeah that because that one's not a misunderstanding that one's just wrong i was just dumb this is like why are you telling me that you could kill us okay like so you care um what are they oh my sister used to say demons for the word demons but put a d before the s at the end that's how my sister used to pronounce that for a long time yeah demon does yeah i even i have trouble trying to say it there's like demons yeah that's like that you're just making your life harder it's okay just for to stop saying it is good shit um well for me at least game of thrones ended at the end of season six yeah i was like yeah i'm told a lot of people's thought that way rags any good pc gaming laptop recommendations um no not because there aren't any but because i'm not really familiar with pc gaming laptops they're gonna be expensive because they're very you know purpose built for being powerful but at the same time being very form fitting being very small and mobile uh so expect to pay a lot but i'm sure there's some really capable ones out there onald acknowledged the tonald moniker on twitter i know it was wonderful still catching up no amount of donations will make me draw snacks anatomical features functions ever i was from baowen yeah we wouldn't you know yeah bullshit you'll do it for free i was going to say that actually sounds like some baowen bite water dude but apparently don't apparently don't um mohler shag mary kill rags wolf and yourself i guess i would kill myself because i don't want me running around like yeah but you always act yourself no no if you kill yourself first you don't need to i would honestly just flip the coin on the last two i really don't mind the results okay with either you would definitely shag me oh but if i say that it's offensive to paul wolf when he eventually may listen to him he knows what he knows what you would say oh yeah i would just say you'd be disappointed in you if you didn't shag me and he would be very happy about the marriage so all good probably um this ginger just sat there and said nothing for absolutely 12 minutes no wonder disney is erasing gingers from their movies god what a massive me he said stuff wasn't great stuff ginger stuff oh yeah yeah yeah blessed pipe man indeed the cat's movie is going to be a fairy convention no are you guys should do your own annual award show called the fappies the fappies i'm down with it that sounds like a pretty good idea i'm not sure how it would go but yeah that sounds pretty cool i'm absolutely down for the fappies when would it be would it be like what would the categories be the calendar year what would the categories be like worst video essay of the year most challenging fab yeah most most massive we could yeah there'd all be video essay related probably like i don't know funniest video worst written most entertaining i don't know best gas oh we couldn't do best gas because that would be mean wouldn't it putting every other guest guest could you imagine we're just like don't don't tell the guy saying that they're just the worst hey i was actually they'd get a fappy for it they get it yeah yeah um i i think you should make actual physical trophies as well and mail them no we'd make like a little piece of paper that just has fappy and crayon on it you know they need to frame it if they didn't we'd be offended i've got lots of um i've got lots of modeling clay i could make plasticine trophy make us a fappy you're just trying to earn the best guest fappy aren't you i didn't know i was a contender i mean every guest would be a contender well then i win then i guess do you hear that toss pot did you hear that shit i then i thought you'd fight for his honor but apparently not i suppose you've got a few that can be uh put to a public like uh the biggest gay oh what would the cat how would we determine the the no category contendance contestants i guess you just we're having that so all the ones that you think would be the biggest gay well just tell people to who say who they think the biggest gays are and then take like the top five answers and then have those five be the contenders for the biggest public vote yeah like a yeah like a public vote or it's up to us to come up with some kind of a metric to judge both the gayness and the massiveness i think the cat's movie comes out the same day as rise of skywalk i really hope we're in the timeline where cats will beat star wars i don't think that'll happen but that would be fucking hilarious that would be hilarious the boys dropped on amazon if you're down with superheroes like captain marvel getting their shit kicked around by people like the don give it a watch i'm gonna consider it a lot of people have been talking about it if it's one season i can get it done quick um pineapple cum is my favorite part oh it's a combo meme seven points for combo meme uh for the record the kneeling question was assuming that as a dog oh you would lick the face and you tell me to get my mind out of the gutter tusk tusk don't act as if you're free of sin daddy loves his baby girl yes he does seven one one more are you absolute massive i don't know what a seven eleven even is still is it a is it a supermarket gas gas like a Costco like a corner shop convenience store yeah they're like a spa yeah a spa all right yeah they how did that come from you guys don't have the it's just that's the uk's version of seven eleven drags his brain is exploded he's thinking of a spa yeah that's just the name of the corner store gas station oh you mean like a spa it's called spa what do you see i get ripped into for the seven one one thing cheap snacks and gasoline acquisition literally yes i'm not even kidding some of them operate right next to gas stations or in them a spa like just maybe we're confused as to what a spa is i like the all people in chat who are british know exactly what i'm talking about all the americans like what the fuck is he all about a spa oh isn't this education this is fun crossing cultural boundary why would a spa fuck i i'm so glad we threw that c in the harbor man oh i mean it could have led you to great things as well as tizmy things like a spa yeah we burnt down the white house yeah it was a show we built a fucking better one that old on this shit oh you're gonna burn it down ourselves you did us a favor you could go to the co-op indeed and the co-op sells a funeral insurance stuff as well what oh also they sell holidays yeah which is even more confusing they sell holidays and funeral insurance what what are these like holidays to bangladesh or moga d like oh the mortality rate of this holiday is only 40 percent it's great i can rewatch the efab law vid on jarred on loop because of more as hilarious wheezing a crayon gets me every time when is there a crayon i don't remember that and i have to actually check it out i always just remember the skeleton and the door those are those are the highlights snacks just met earth goliath oh so he hasn't yeah you only met earth goliath snacks there's apparently a couple of them maybe oh there's four elemental goliath and they'll all join forces to make one goliath would be terrifying megasol like the power rangers first time catching efab live have some money also high rags hello hello hello by the way you're able to catch efab live nice by the way gametron show as a guest when um i guess everybody can be a guest at some point the list goes on for a million years some people get bumped up just because they um they give us a super pack and that means that our policies change based on that like cynics next year gave us um how much did you pay to be on today cynics next i forget um 2000 shekels i think and vox as you paid like 10 because we wanted you here anyway right uh well yes that's in some of my notes it was totally fair um get vik minyana and rakita law on efab my dudes i mean sure i don't know what we'd talk about with those two but i mean other than the obvious get legally a lot oh i love you guys more take a vacation so i can catch up on past efabs well we got bad news for you sir in in the coming month um everyone loves middle earth but no one cares about beginning earth or end earth also high rags hello category for the fappy best in your opinion best in your opinion that's good mr mola do the seven one ones in wakanda stock rhino milk or do they only carry purple soy flower power swill um i would assume that the powerful nutrients of rhino milk are not it's not something the wakandans have actually accessed it's well above their abilities something that really only efab viewers are aware of so they wouldn't stock it no yes uh this is a question for any of you slash all of you what do you think of the first matrix where do you think the trilogy went wrong oh i haven't i honestly i haven't seen the movies in so long the first matrix is great and the trilogy went wrong when they decided to make a sequel the first movie the trilogy went wrong when they existed um i adore the first one it was the second one so unnecessary it gets weird from the get-go because it's like he fights three agents and it's like can he just delete them and he's like fighting them you're like um well it undermines the first one which is like i'm free i'm god like there are no rules that apply to me but i think because of the success monobothers is like dude we want more the matrix do it bigger and better and then by doing it bigger and better what it was was a lot of CGI like the fight with a hundred agent smiths it looks it looks really bad now that's how you can see it looks bad at the time oh yeah and very over the top and it was like watching a bloody video game that someone was had the controller and wasn't letting you play it it it it was all about and they were playing it wrong yes exactly and a lot of sequels and reboots and have this problem where it's more spectacle and less about the the story and it tried to throw in some light philosophy philosophical ideas like the matrix is like existentialism one-on-one brain in your brain in a jar they can't shit and then they tried to lightly expand upon that in the sequels they didn't quite work and they had to throw in bigger and better like the the whole motorway fight sequence there's ghosts now and it is in the matrix and agent smith is all CGI it's just awful too much too much CGI because the i guess the money guys thought well what do people think of when they see the matrix all those cool CGI bullet time stunts and there was a bit more to it than that agree hey ho um rags you need to love the prequels I love the prequels for the meanie mess that they are I love them too I would ironically say I love them but you know for a very specific set of reasons also where's wolf wolf is unavailable he's doing a lot more work like shifts lately but he'll be back following sunday when we'll be doing the next episode of effip speaking of which because that was the last super chat for the moment um efap has entered episode 46 today which means we are now very close to episode 50 and we realized there's a crazy coincidence also known as the next middle yes the fourth will be 47 the 11th will be 48 the 18th will be 49 and then in the week of the 25th meaning the 50th episode is also the same week you not that we started the first episode a year ago man did we plan this outright or what I was going to say it wasn't actually planned it would be hard to believe but um I remember thinking about it a few months ago in advance I was like uh it would be cool if they lined up but you know we can't we don't we didn't we don't plan for double our episodes there's not a thing that gets planned just the amount of conversation that's happening and obviously that spider man one with shadow versity doubled up and then I was just talking about it with wolf a few days ago and it's like oh shit they've actually lined up so and this is good news and bad news I'm afraid bad news first the episode that is the celebration you want will be on a thursday because we want to match it up it's not a saturday or friday which is what people would probably want or a sunday whatever so as much as I know that there's a lot of people in chat that might be like I'd like to be in the whole 24 hours because that'd be so much fun you know if you've got work or the arrangements or you know just a life in general then don't feel bad about catching it whenever you want to slash can yeah thursday the 22nd of next month being august I mean sorry uh yeah no august uh we'll be doing a 24 hour e-fap with alternating guests and infinite content to respond to with the hopes of essentially going through about one video per well-known e-fap rugs gallery member so like I'll have to get all that set up in advance and let everyone know that this is a thing that's happening and I have no idea how much carnage will come from it but that's going to be a thing and it'll be episode 50 part one two three and four and I think I'm going to do it seven hours a piece for the first three seven forty twenty one and then the last one will be three hours plus depending on how much more energy we have remaining at that point but hopefully me wolf and rags will be able to make it for the full thing no promises you never know are these things human beings you know they're complicated um and everybody who's been a guest previously will pretty much be allowed to come back um so I imagine we'll we'll cap it at six people at any one time I think yeah we don't want to burn out too many people at once either because we gotta go for a while and everyone hopefully will be available at different times being that we're friends with Australians Americans Europeans it's gonna be fabulous um it'll start at 2 p.m bst the 22nd of august that's 2 p.m bst 22nd of organs organs um 24 hours slow old stream no no I don't know we'll definitely be covering tonal though and it'll be fantastic um good luck reading all those super chats for 24 hour stream I'll probably try and break them up there's no way I'll just have like a fucking four hour section of going through them or anything besides that might be relevant to the people who are guessing at the time you know do as best as we can but um yeah I think I think that's that's essentially the small announcement um which kind of leads us close to the end of this episode which means I'd like our guests to now share exactly where they can be found on the interwebs um cynic snacks would you like to go first yeah sure um so I my channel cynic snacks uh go and look at it I have nine videos in total which they're probably in a couple of hours uh they're all like animated funny fun times I make funny jokes I'm very funny the end I also tweet a lot but I end up saying really annoying shit that's going to eventually get me cancelled so maybe don't follow me on twitter but yeah animated film reviews it's good shit and uh so yeah kind of similar I guess people people have said that I copy red letter media uh and mystery science theater 3000 despite the fact that I don't watch either of those things but yeah apparently I'm like them I'm even I'm trying to find out how you copy them because it covers bad movies which is not copyrighted by them whatsoever I get it too very loose yeah I I see a lot of people saying it basically comparing any review to red letter media but there are other reviewers out there other than red letter media and I can vouch for snacks uh if anything he is more talented than red letter media because he does animation very good animation and animation as a bitch to do um and I don't see Mike Scholesky or whatever the fuck his polish name is animating stuff yeah I don't mean to tongue cynic snacks ass but he is a friend and he's very talented and it's a damn bloody shame he hasn't got 10 000 subs and more but he's very talented very fun and you should check him out I appreciate it thank you I do some stuff too but whatever well I was about to say that's the easy lead in to being like okay puppet old man what do you do and why should people subscribe to you hmm um well they should subscribe because there are videos coming soon I'm very sorry that there has been delayed due to uh health reasons and personal things um but videos are in the work there is actually a backlog of videos and I know it sounds like bullshit but there's actually lots of videos in the work it's just there's a back um but anyway I am Professor Torsport I am the host of smack talk a show on Vox's productions and I do reviews I critique I'm an entertainer of sorts uh I'm just a comfy time killer uh there is a lot of bad language and dark humor but if that's your thing uh check it out and uh there will be some more content uh for new viewers and fans alike and I do love my fans thank you for your support and patience I know it has been a while since my last upload but again that is something I'm trying to remedy in the next few days but uh yes that is what I do beautiful and then I guess either one of you can answer this but what's that other thing you guys do it's like a podcast or something totally talk about that and why people should subscribe to that as well I'm glad I don't do that podcast shit basically if e-fap isn't on and you feel like you want some e-fap there's a really kind of watered-down budget version that mean Vox is participating I think it's we're like a sister podcast I yeah I I don't think when we're definitely not like e-fap we don't just a podcast where we moan about shit but yeah I'm often reminded of the Ricky Gervais show that kind of podcast we we do have something we want to talk about but we generally go on tangents about German shitting tables and whatever takes our fancy so it's quite relaxed and I wouldn't say I wouldn't say it's not intellectually stimulating but I'll fowl for it too I enjoy listening to it I I do enjoy listening to it have they allowed you to guest on it yet right uh no I don't feel wow wow wow I've been on it like three or four times I can't remember oh yeah but you're British yep but I think they've had America oh we get loads they had they had nitpicks on and I was asleep when nitpicks was being like objective critique is dumb and not real I was like damn it if only I was on man not a fan favorite that episode I will I will it doesn't surprise me considering all of you about ripping into media yeah um but yeah that we do I read we also play games at the end cards against humanity oh yeah yeah weird shit from the internet whether it be a chuck tingle story or just weird stuff we found um yeah it's hosted by uh cynics uh cynical reviews and uh and is uploaded on cynical streams and that is uh produced by CJ our gracious host who set up the podcast round about uh Christmas yeah we all got together on Christmas and uh snacks of course because he's so talented there's the art and I I do the um uh some talking actually I didn't have to cover for snacks when he was away in Asia I had to do some of the thumbnails and my photoshop skills are shit but but I but I fought the good fight I think you did a good job I don't think anyone even noticed I was gone I think you said that you know what I was saying like entry level just look for for one of the one I think there's one where me and Jay guessed on there so just watch that and then be like podcast entry level oh that would be the entry podcast and then you can watch all of it once you're like I like the other people on this not just the people I was coming from EFAP from because they're wonderful and yeah uh give it a few more episodes once we get past our 24 hour and we'll do the big crossover hopefully and I think there's an episode of great British broadcast tomorrow as well oh there you go tune in slash subscrisal right that's what they say yeah kids say these days um yeah well we could probably do like um three episodes one for gaming one for on our end and then one for on your end you know we get two episodes out of this big collaborative project and such quirky characters right you got uh like canines type characters three different types a pizza puppet three types of pizza i'm not a puppet don't break the fourth wall how i thought with the art you just showed earlier that it seems like the fan base like it that you're a puppet i don't know that's what i'm seeing um indeed but yes i guess i'll just grab these last few um howdy rags hello um sweet i'll still be on summer vacation i'll just have to stock up on snacks until everyone i know to leave me alone for 24 hours oh yes the seven one word efeb uh next you did lake fear three what about one and two um so i covered lake fear three because it was a worst of 2018 video um and based on just how absolutely appalling that film was have no end in looking at the other ones um you're just scared yeah you scared you'll love it yeah um in all honesty i i don't know where i'd find um the the copy of lake fear three that i bought was from it was like a it was it was a used copy that i got online and it was quite expensive because they're difficult to come by um are they difficult to come to oh yeah and that so you would rate them challenging wank out of 10 yeah not bad i mean never say never if i've completely run out of ideas i'm possible to watching i might have to resort to lake fear one and two but i just really don't think they're going to be worth anyone's time i've i've currently got a stack of dvds right in front of the just demolishing um and they're definitely gonna go first um mario caused season eight failure from bagel bagans also high rags hello you never get tired of saying hi it's wonderful yeah i think if i don't i had an action figure of you the two things would be like a bach and um hello i guess well like a pull string you need two though you can't just have the one two pull strings yeah i just have a string coming out my asshole uh howdy lads huge fan of efab been recommending your stream to everyone i met for a month now i've never learned so much and laughed so hard keep up the good work that's wonderful thank you very much that's great i'm glad you're really liking it the best kind of learning is fun happy learning so i mean this is the thing like i don't know if anyone would have learned anything with us covering wisecrack today except how not to make an argument but hey that's learning hey we can all profit from a bad example that's true but yeah that pretty much brings us to the end like i said we'll be back next week probably the same time same day um if you starved for podcast content the great bridge podcast coming on tomorrow what's the topic you guys are coming you're doing even uh we're covering the extra credit oh yes video um there's a few other things just like a cancel culture in general um yeah well whatever we fucking feel about it and i'll see if we can throw in a chuck tingle throw in some gay donuts or any gay uh uh sentient literature ting tingle is a pretty gay last name it is i mean if you're not like an elf at the north pole and your last name is tingle probably it's it's funny you say that because he calls his cinematic universe the tingle verse the tingle verse they're all interconnected these stories apparently uh what time is that by the way um i do believe it might be uh six or seven p.m uh it round about round about e-fap time i'm gonna say seven p.m round about e-fap you guys run you you're not short does a podcast either you take you take a take a leaf from our a book of longman you you you can go you don't go for one or two hours typically which is the standard podcast time i think i don't know any podcasts that much longer than that but hey yeah yeah longman content what you'll find um and so on on our podcast we have uh kind of a scene that that's on screen at all times of the characters sat around a table discussing things and it's slowly been acquiring kind of memes and props and stuff and i'm not sure if you've seen it mauler but there's a funko pop of you i did i actually noticed it on the last one i was in the chat pointing it out and apparently i was supposed to take it offensively but i actually like it i i i just figured you'd you'd be the kind of person that despise funko pops and having your own likeness not really preserved in one would annoy you what's the argument against funko pops the collectibles suck because i don't know they're just a dumb dumb waste of time i guess i think it's a critique of consumerist nerd culture that uh if you have this funko pop you are validated you've got your nerd credentials i'm okay with people buying consumable items two great items the things they enjoy it's okay have you got a funko pop um yeah which one do you own yeah which one i don't think i actually have any but i wouldn't have a problem with having any don't even know hang on you don't know there was actually a long pause like straight up i wouldn't buy one myself but well for example i've got a tywin figure that my mum got me because she knows i like tywin that's sweet um he's not a funko he's just a realistic depiction oh by way by way of an olive branch um i'm currently drawing the second funko pop to go on our shelf that is going to be rags oh so oh yeah you should add it the same time he guests do it okay i'll oh that's another thing who's your guest for tomorrow do you have one yeah i believe it's detective deckard but who i'm not sure that doesn't sound like rags that's quite easy to have him he's a he's doing a documentarian might say i'd describe him as oh um u k based youtuber huh yeah i don't know well get rags on his fursona is fursona is a crocodile actually yeah you should have you need to have rags and wolf on before we do our crossover otherwise it's like you know but you got to set up all the mini episodes first before the big episode is it what makes sense it's like introducing a character at the very end who's supposed to be the best of them all exactly i guess we could yeah but we could just do like a post-credits scene you could just retcon wolf and rags into the great british podcast universe i guess yeah it's like um no not really a spoiler um but in spider man the new spider man they decided to like re-show an old scene from a different movie and then add a new character in as if they were there the whole time and it kind of annoyed me a little bit um also zack said take on nerd soup they turned into gamethrone shills after season eight did nerd soup do video essays i thought they were like a podcast i think they were podcast i don't know i don't know enough about nerd soup but you know maybe one day maybe one i don't really care for soup i prefer my food a bit more solid i don't even understand how you'd have a nerdy soup is it like soup with nerd blood in it or it's funko soup melted funko for soup um but yeah that about does it is there anything else anybody wants to talk about before we head away for the night no it's a pretty good timing i gotta pretty much head out once we close dinner to go to well uh thank you for having us on i guess the only thing i'd say to that thank you uh very much appreciated and uh you have a lovely audience very dedicated very very great yeah very friendly yes very funny as well i've laughed many many many times at chat yeah chat yeah we got we got a quick which we really do when i when i see like destiny and people like that always getting into these terrible arguments and spats with their chat i'm like mad it makes me appreciate the audience that we have it really really does that's like a funko version of myself to agree these are the cutesy droids we haven't had one of them in a while we haven't gone for the dog trial he's really cool this is a lovely little cutesy kind of cartoony style i really like this is my favorite um but yeah thank you all for watching thank you for the clever interesting memes i know a lot of them aren't being shown a lot of people don't don't panic we're saving all the ones that aren't episode specific up for um the 50th episode so we're gonna need a lot of memes a lot of videos to go through is gonna be great so thank you for all them thank you for the very kind donations and of course thank you to the long-standing guest mr rags hello and the two guests for the episode cynic snacks and professor toss pot thank you um have a good time have a good night everybody or morning or afternoon and we like i said we'll see you next week you can catch this episode on moola the channel is my second one you can find in the description for this one um it'll be up probably like in a day's time or you can just hang on to the link you have now and this one will be processed within a couple of hours so yeah good night everybody see a little bit cheerio bye bye cheerio husks away