 So I will call to order the Board of Directors of Community Television of Santa Cruz County regular meeting of June 22nd 2020. I'll note the time is 5 o'clock 5 p.m. but our secretary can they call the roll. Dermayziars. Here. Director Hall. Here. Director Rand. Eating fruit salad. Director Mannheim. Here. Director O'Driscoll. Here. Director Launay. Here. Director Shaw. Director Kedger. Here. Thank you Secretary Laurent. So that's item one item two oral communications. Do we have any members of the public on the call who would like to comment? Seeing none. We can move on to item three consideration of late additions. The agenda additions deletions. Anything we need to add or drop from the agenda. Okay. Seeing none. We can move on to the consent agenda, which is items four, five and six. Four is to approve the minutes of the board meeting of April 27th. Five is to approve the minutes of our special meeting of May 4th. And six is to approve the recommendation of the finance committee. To accept the May 2020 financial reports. I think that's it for that. Yeah. I have one. I'll make a motion to approve, but I'd like you to correct. The line is last name in item seven and eight of the April 27th. Me day. Okay. I will fix it. Other than that, I make a motion to approve the consent agenda. And I'll second it and I have a comment too. Yes. Director Hall, would you like to comment on. Item six and just a comment. If you'll go, if you're looking at, if you go to 41 20 facility and equipment use. That's our lease revenue from the studio on the coworking space on Soquel. And it's been dropping. Since the shutdown, but we think we've reached the bottom of the dropping and we're off. By a reasonable amount from what we had expected, but it isn't as low as we thought it would go. So that's pretty good. And according to Becca, they were probably going to be going up a little bit because I think a certain period of time and she can go over that all in her report. But I just wanted to point out that one thing. So you're aware of it. And I'll just, I made my second and I'll just go with that. All right. Thank you, director Hall. Any further questions or comments on the consent agenda? All right. Seeing none. Would the secretary call the roll call vote, please. Chairman is yours. Aye. Director Hall. Yes. Director Rand. Yes. Director Mannheim. Yeah. Director Lorette. Yes. Director. Yes. Director. Yes. Director. Yes. All right. So that passes unanimously. So we can move right along to our regular agenda item seven. I wasn't sure if I should drop this on the agenda. So I figured I'd leave it on. Is the report from the ad hoc facilities committee. I know we have a closed session item. That's related to this as item 14. Is there anything that the committee would like to report in open session? Who's the chair of that committee? Is it, is it you, the committee or the board? I don't know. I'm sorry. Director. I guess back and I are both. I'm sorry. I was busy trying to get some information out to Barbara. I didn't hear that. Go, go ahead. And I'll chime in if you need. Well, as you know, the committee has met several times. And we have some information to report. this in close session to discuss her part of the deal. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. So are there any questions from board members? Okay. Seeing none, why don't we move on to item number eight, which is to review and extend the emergency signing policy. I just included the policy that was provided by our executive director. I thought that when we approved it, we had amended it to say that any officer of the board could docusign rather than just the chair. Right. Is there any discussion on this item? Move approval. All right. We have a motion. I'd like to move approval with the clarification that it is for any member of the any officer of the of the organization. Okay. Thank you. Do we have a second? Second. All right. We have a second from director O'Driscoll. And I believe the period that we were approving the extension is for two months. It's not, I didn't say that on there. What is it? I think it's September. September board meeting. I didn't say that. Yeah, I just I just said review and extend. So with the maker of the motion like to specify, I mean, our secretary who was our Brown Act expert for an emergency, I believe you told me in a communication that for an emergency resolution, they have to be reviewed every two months. That is what our city attorney told us. It has to be reviewed every three. It doesn't have to be approved. Doesn't have to be anything. It just has to be reviewed every two months by the board. Okay. Is this is this still an emergency resolution? I'm my understanding is still emergency resolution because the the what's the name of that committee, the governance committee, the governance committee hasn't met to review it and recommend a permanent policy change. Well, that being the case, I will amend my amended to say through the August board meeting to the August board meeting, whatever date that would be. Is it one? We don't have one in August? No. We don't have one in July. We do have one in July. Hmm. How about I amend this to we just to continue for one month and then in July we can go two months if we have to get to the end of September. Is that what you were? Is that what we're going to do at this point? That sounds good to me. Anybody else have clear to chime in on that? That would get us to September, right? Well, right now all we're all we're able to do is get us to the July meeting. And then this will be on the agenda in July and at that point we can go out two months. Okay. Sounds good. We could amend it for two months and then in July amend it for two months. Right. Maybe we should just make it two months. Just in case. But in July if we do it for two months it will still just be to the end of September. Just in case a meteor comes down and we can't meet in July. I did just schedule a vacation for a week in July, the week of July 15th or so. But I think our meeting is after that. But if I get eaten by a bear up in Lassen, now I guess Matilda will have to chair the next meeting. You won't be able to sign anything. All the officers can by this now. Okay. So to clarify the motion it's to approve with the amendment that any director can to occupying. And it is for one month. Let me just if we just let me just step in for a second. Thank you. I correct that when we did the original policy two months ago it said any officer of the organization. Is that correct? So we just have the wrong one in front of us. We don't need to amend the policy that we currently have. All we need to do is extend it for a month or two months. And I'm going to extend it for one month since we have to meet in July and we don't need an August. Okay. Is that amenable to the second? That's my motion. Yes. Okay. So we have a motion and a second. Secretary Laurent, please call the roll call vote. Director O'Driscoll. Yes. Director Laurent. Yes. Director Launayette. Yes. Chair Maziaris. Yes. Director Mannheim. Yes. Director Gudger. Yes. And I want to point out that you'll have a five day gap in July because one month from the day is five days before the next board meeting. Okay. Two months. I take it back. Through the July meeting. That's yeah. Through the July meeting. Director Rand. Yes. Director Hall. Yes. Great. Thank you. So that passes unanimously. All right. So we can move on now to item number nine which was an update on the CARES Act Economic Injury Disaster Loan or EIDL loan from the US Small Business Administration. I believe our Finance Committee chair, Director Hall, prepared a staff report or a report for the agenda. Is there anything you'd care to elaborate on that report? Yes. I actually wanted to thank Becca because this has been kind of a work in progress. Federal rules have changed. The availability of the loan has changed. And through kind of intuitive sleuthing, Becca was able to find a method to get our application in. It was rejected once and then out of the blue it was accepted. So it was it was quite an interesting adventure in the CARES Act and post COVID-19 federal assistance. But along in the short of it is the CTV received approval of $150,000 loan. I put down all the terms. We found out about it at the day of the Finance Committee meeting. So we really haven't had a chance to talk about it. But in our previous meetings we talked about the concept at least at this point to accept whatever assistance we need. And then at that point that we find it all out we can go through and see what we want. Right now we have the Payroll Protection Act loan which is helping us with the payroll to the amount of $33,000. That's been amended by Congress. So there's been some changes there that we'll be talking about at our next Finance Committee meeting. And we'll talk about this at the next meeting in terms of how we repay it, what our thoughts are make a recommendation to the board at that time. But I thought it was important to let you know that we received it. And to thank Becket because we were pretty much moving nowhere and then she had the curiosity to check on something. And lo and behold, after a number of steps and conversations we did. And I want to thank the board. You gave her approval to do this. So we acted as soon as we received this notice. So long and short is we're fortunate and we'll be talking about it more. And Becket, do you want to answer any questions real quickly? Sure, if there are questions. Looks like Director Rand has her hand. I don't have a question and I don't want to be a donor. But I am not very much in favor of actual loans that we have to pay back. I mean, the PPP is as far as I know, you know, is a given we can, you know, don't have to pay it back if we do everything right. But I am not very much in favor of loans. So I just want to have that noted when when you're meeting. So Yeah, I was reading about this loan and it sounded like that you get a $10,000 bonus instantly that you don't have to pay back when you get this long 2000. It's only two. I read 10 no 10. You get 10. Okay. So by accepting the loan, we get more than the first year's interest back in the $10,000. And then if we were to pay it back, there's no payments allowed or required in the first year. And then if you pay it back at the end of the year, you're still several thousand dollars ahead. Well, I would like you to check if indeed it's 10,000 because whatever I've read for the radio station, you know, we've been looking into that. It said 2000. And actually, we already got 2000. And, and now we have to decide if we're going to accept a loan or not. And the 2000 you can keep. So I'm not sure where you're at the 10,000 time. It's in the documentation that was provided. Matilda, I'm in the So maybe maybe it's new then, but would it be a different amount depending on the amount of loan? No, actually, what it is, it depends on how many employees you have. So that's maybe why you got 10,000. Probably 10 employees. Nine. Okay, well, so yeah, it's depending on on the number of employees. Okay, is there any further questions? Discussion? Director Hall? One thing, just so you know, this actually hasn't been finalized. Becca, have you where you are in terms of filing all the last paperwork on this? I have I've given them all the last paperwork and we can accept it if we want to. Okay, well, you already have a resolution to apply and accept. And I think we'll take Matilda's comments and finance committee to heart because we debated the same question you did. And so it isn't. But right now, we were fortunate to get through the maze. And we'll see now that we're into the maze what we do and what we want to do with it. But it is for loans from the government. Pretty generous. It is. And so even if you don't accept it, you still can keep the $10,000. Yeah, that's what I understand. So, you know, I, I assume I mean, what happened is case with is that we got the $2,000. We never got any paperwork, but we got some emails, but we got the $2,000. And so we still have to decide if we're going to accept it or not. I think there was a time limit on accepting it. Isn't that correct? 30 days. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So one point that he made was that it, the interest is very low. And since we don't know what might happen, we just really can't tell every day the COVID thing changes. It seems that we have more and more cases. We could be once again, slowed down or shut down. And this is a very inexpensive insurance policy to make sure we have enough operating to continue should that happen again. And maybe it won't. And we can just send all the money back or use it and pay very little interest. Yeah, or use it and pay very little interest is really small. It doesn't cost much to have this loan. Yeah, it's our annual interest on it is $4,125. So it's really if we're getting $10,000 bonus, it pays for the first two years. And if we put the money in a bank where we made money on the money, that would bring the interest even further. Yeah, bring it down a little now. And I'll add it was noted in the finance committee meeting that our operating reserves are somewhat modest, right? So this would correct. This would probably add a third to our operating reserves roughly. Correct. Okay, so any further comments or questions from No, I just wanted everybody to know what was going on. And I decided to write it down. So there's something people could look at and think about ahead of time. Right. Can I comment? Please. I would like to thank Joe, because he answered my phone calls every time I called him. This is a very weird application. And it seemed dicey. And sometimes I thought it was a scam. But it turned out to be okay. And Joe gave me the encouragement to go forward and answered my questions and made it possible. So I wouldn't have done it without him. It was a real key to it. I was actually under a building doing something. Okay, thank you for the notes from the underground. I, you know, I was just noticing in the attachment from the National Council of nonprofits. It does describe the $10,000 incident of dance. Which implies it's part of the loan. It's not a gap. Yeah, I was going to argue, argue about it. But I think I think you're right there. But we haven't gotten anything at this point. So we'll see. Right. But so, I mean, it's an advance, but the advance, you don't have to pay back. Right, under loan forgiveness, it says $10,000 advance were given, even if borrowers denied EIDL loans. Got it. Okay. What we actually applied for was the advance, but then they gave us the loan. It is. That's why I didn't want to get into all those details because it's just, it was just a very circuitous process. I guess a nice way to put it. Okay, well, hopefully everything will work out agreeably and we'll have that little bit of financial insurance. Okay, so no action is required on that item, but I will thank both Becca and Joe, Director Hall, for your work on on that. And though you don't require it, we've already given you approval, like it sounds like we give our blessing with some reservation from Director or Vice Chair Rand to go ahead and complete that paperwork so we can get those funds. Alright, so unless there's any further comments, let us move on to item number 10, which is the oral report of our Executive Director, Becca, please. Oh, well, I'm sorry. Just a moment. I was doing something else before the me all kinds of things happened right before we met. Okay, I'll also note that that Ms. Barbara Springer has joined us. Thank you very much for joining us and welcome. And it's good to see you. Alright, I'm, I'm ready if you're ready. Alright, please proceed. Okay. So this month, we're talking about May. And so we, we received the funds for the PPP on May 4th, and they are in the bank and we are using them. And under the co-working under under financial, the co-working center has done, we adjusted our projections for it. As soon as we closed on March 17, I think it was or March 18, no, I guess it was March 19th to a comment to, to anyway, to account for the, the slower business that we'd be able to do because of that. And our projection was $7,500 a month. It used to be 10,000. Now we're at 7,500. And this, and in May, we earned 79. And we're on track this month to do the same thing. So we're, we're holding steady, which is a good thing. Um, we did 16 regular meetings this month under paid services. We did 16 meetings for the, for the city governments and one special meeting. And that is, this is an unusual time. So this is, that was just before they started working on the budget in June. They did a lot of budget meetings and it looks like they're, they're not going to really finish all their meetings as they usually do before July when they take a break. And so in August, they'll be doing a lot of meetings. So you'll see more meetings than regular in August. But right now for May, we did 16. And we did three webinars. Well, we did more than three. I think we did six webinars, two for each, each of the three commissions that we're working with, the San Laurenti Valley Water District, the Santa Cruz County Regional Transit Commission and the Metro Transit. They're all doing their meetings by webinar now. Under a coronavirus update, we have been working on safety measures and we have completed a number of them. We have removed, moved a lot of furniture and re-arranged a lot of furniture so that all the seats are six feet apart. We have added masks, required signs everywhere. And the county provided a very fun screaming hand. Watch your hands signs. So we're putting those in the bathrooms as well. We tested out in May, we got two Plexiglas desk shields are sort of like clear panels that sit on top of the desk. They go up 48 inches and they have little sides. So people are safe from people walking around in front of them or talking to them. And we tested out to those two worked well, the people in the co-working center in the cafe area liked them. So we ordered one for every desk and a couple additional for inside the offices because a lot of our people are, we have a number, we have a couple doctors and a health consultant and they all interview people. And so we thought they might need that kind of protection as well. So those are just, we just have those in the office. So if someone is going to do a face-to-face meeting, we can provide that protection. Safety measures in progress include the rest of the Plexiglas shields for all the desks and I actually have the final tune in my car now. So I'll just give you a secret update. They've arrived and we've identified and ordered some special UVC lights for cleaning the offices, storage rooms, the studio and control rooms. So there's a special protocol for using them. They are, they can't be left around for people to use themselves, but Ian will use them to clean offices when no one's in them and to clean the studio at night before after someone uses it. And they will clean, we have two that will clean an entire room and some smaller ones that will clean some of our smaller spaces like the audio booth and the RSVP and that sort of thing. And we've also, we identified and ordered some portable HEPA filters that are silent and they are in the cafe area. They have both a carbon and a HEPA filter and we've got hand sanitizers. We ordered them in May. We've actually installed them now and we've increased our janitorial visits have increased to five times a week now. So they, it's pretty, it's pretty clean. The, and that is, that is our report for June. We really, for May, we really just did a lot of procurement and it took a while to find these things, to identify them, to find a place that had them in stock and to ship them. Everything's taking longer than usual. So, but, but we did it. I'm going to give you a little June update because a lot happened in June that I think is, is COVID related. And you might like to know it, even though it's not officially, it didn't, didn't happen in May, but I think you should know it now. Our co-working center revenue for June was 798 on the day that I wrote this, but it is, it is now seven nine something. I can't remember the exact number, but we're on target. We passed our, our, our projection, but I believe we'll get closer to the seven, closer to eight by the end of the month. We've redent, we've rented two additional offices, which is great. And we have had a lot of people calling us, asking us if they can come to work there. Right now we're only working with people who we, we already, we work with all the time or people that want to rent something going forward from July, but we're getting a lot of people calling asking if they can drop in and that sort of thing. We're not doing that now because we're just not quite ready, but we will start on July 1st. We have applied for the EIDL and gotten the Okidoki and let's see, under safety, we have gotten disinfectant wipes and gloves for our tech guys. So when they come out, they go out in the field. We've actually installed those things in the chambers where they work. So that they have gloves and disinfectant wipes for not only their hands, but the equipment. And we've asked for, we have been able to get the MIRV 13 filters. That's the highest, the highest or the smallest filter system we can get for our air conditioning that can still push the air through the air conditioning, but MIRV 13 is pretty high. It, it, it meets the 0.3 micron, micron requirement. That's how big the COVID virus is. And we are also going to put, if we can, we're waiting for a quote on putting HVC lights in the HVAC system. HVC is a form of ultraviolet light that will kill viruses and it will kill the COVID virus. So as the air goes through the system, it would be killing the germs as it passes through our AC system. So we're still working on it. It's, I guess everyone wants it. So the, our HV, our HVAC guys having a hard time getting ahold of it. We've got our, our desk shields are installed, hand sanitizers, let's see. We did get, I wanted to, I had talked about at one point of replacing all the toilets or adding a kit to the toilets that would make them touchless flush, but they don't make those kits anymore and actually replacing the toilets would cost way too much money, more than we would ever want to do. So we didn't, I'm not doing that, but we are going to replace the faucets with what they call metered faucets. So you touch them once and they, they come on for 20 seconds. So you don't have to sing a song. You know exactly how long to wash your hands. And then they go off. So you don't, you have to touch them once, but you, once your hands are clean, you don't have to touch them again. And we have hand blowers already. So you can dry your hands under the hot air and, and leave the room. We are still under, under CTV safety. We are still, I'm still having everybody work from home as much as possible. I still think that's safe. They've been doing a good job. I don't think we've suffered any kind of productivity by having people work at home. So I'm going to continue with that. Let's see. We have hand sanitizers in the control rooms now. We are, we have placed all our social distancing messaging in the back hallways and near the restrooms. There's a path of travel marked through the building. So people go only one direction. And I, I think that's it. So that's where we are. I just wanted to give you that extra safety thing because I don't think you need to, you don't want to wait till July to find out what we're doing. So that's where we are on safety. And that's my report for May. Great, thank you so much. Do any board members have any questions regarding that report? Director Hall. How are you going to let people know you're open? Are you going to send out an email blast or just I'm just kind of curious what the steps will be next. Yeah, yeah, we will. We want to make a little video and probably be an animated thing of all the things that we've done to make it safe. And so we'll, we'll be doing something. We'll start working on that now and then we'll send it out. We have a way to, we can email everybody who is a member. Instantly. So we'll do that. But we also have a web page and a blog. So we'll get the word out that way as well. And any customer that's ever come in, we'll communicate with them as well. So we'll, and we'll probably, we're going to, I'm working on, I'm meeting the graphic artists sort of by Zoom tomorrow night to finish up the sign specs because we had a really hard time getting the size of where the sign would go because it's up so high we can't reach it. And we've hired a couple of people to do it. And finally we got somebody who could actually do it, although they did have to go away and get a bigger ladder. But we've got the dimensions now and that's all the artists needed. So we should be able to have a new signage up. And I think that will draw, now our building is great, bright green, cannot miss our building anymore. And with the big sign, I think that will help as well. And we'll put something on our channels too. And one other question. What about the volunteers? Are we going to reach out to them in terms of maybe it's under your report, Matilda. So if I'm jumping ahead. Heath is a director or is a HVAC or HVAC, the VAC chair now. They're actually, we're inviting them back on the 15th of July. I don't, I really want to make sure we have all the lights in house, but the big lights we'd use to do the studio and they won't be in until they won't be shipped until July 7th. So I don't want to invite them back until I can truly provide them a safe environment. And so once we have that in place, they can come back. And you say the big lights mean the big disinfecting lights. Yeah, big UBC lights and they're they're big and they will do the whole room. But until then, I don't really feel that like we want to have, I just feel like we don't want to invite people into a place that may not be perfectly clean. OK, I just was curious where we were there. I had the same question, Director Holland, and in terms of legality, in terms of the stages of the governor's orders, you know, we are legal to. Yeah, they're a lot of introduction now. So yeah, we are. But we are, we're being extra careful. We really, we're discouraging it, but I think people want to come back anyway. So we're and you'll hear from Keith Keith, they really made a lot of rules for themselves to be safe. Excellent. Director Mannheim. Just a question, you know, you've mentioned that a number of people are expressing interest. Have you thought at all about the limits of how many individuals could circulate? I mean, if if if people start coming in to use the open spaces, limiting the number of people who can come through and what that would be. Yeah, I took out 15 chairs. So there's only only a safe number can be in there. You can't be in there. I mean, you'll run out of furniture at some point. So that's how we're limiting it. And all the furniture is six feet apart. And there's only desks. There's not, there's not those communal tables. And we even took out all this. We have one, one, one chair on the side of the room with the table because we can get it far and up away from people. But the rest of the furniture, we took out one of the couches in the lobby too. So only one person can sit there. So we've removed, we've removed seating that we don't want people to hold. And so now, yeah, many less, many fewer people can come in at a time. Anything else, Dr. Mannheim? No. Did I see your hand up, Vice Chair Rand? Oh, you're muted. You're muted. I told it. I'm waiting for Keith's reports. OK, yeah, I thought I saw your hand, but maybe you were just adjusting your glasses. Great. Any other further questions or comments from the board on our oral report of our executive director? Seeing none, let's move on to item 11, which is the oral report of the Volunteer Advisory Committee chair. Great. So we met by Google Meet and they produce the members of the back committee were really thrilled to get together. We've been missing each other, so it was quite fun. And we came up with a list of things, which we run by Becca and I'll just mention a few of them. She mentioned the UBC Light. We have one other requirement. We're only going to allow one program on a weekend because we don't have staff to come in and use the light in between shows during on the weekend. So, for instance, there's a Friday night show. There can't be a Sunday show or vice versa. Everything else you pretty much know about. We're only going to have one guest and no audience allowed. If it's a music show, only one to two musicians, no bands. And we've asked Becca for a thermometer. The studio supervisors want to take everyone's temperature as they arrive. And the studio supervisors are going to get together to make a checklist to make sure we're all on the same page. We're going to be required to clean the kitchen before and after and any food must be on the table outside. There's no food in the facility for public access. And I think that pretty much covers everything. Anything else, Matilda? Yeah, there was one other thing. We brainstormed with Becca after we met with the volunteers that we would have the graphics computer probably inside the studio so that the graphics person and the director would not be sitting next to each other. It was a really nice conversation with all the volunteers. They were very serious and safety oriented. They were very pleased with all the things that Becca and Keith and I have been talking about. So, it was a really good community builder. I think we're going to make a good start again. Once indeed, we have everything in place. All right. Thank you. Wonderful news. I'm glad to hear that production will be ramping up again. Any questions or comments from other members of the board? Okay. Seeing none. Thank you very much, Keith. All report of the board chair is item 12. I'm going to just say I have nothing to report. I won't even thank anybody. Just thank you all. So, let's move right on to item 13. Board members, staff requests for items appear on the next meeting agenda. I guess we are going to bring back the check signing policy. All right. Anything in addition to that? Hearing none. Let's move on to I would just say I would just say, of course, we're going to talk about how it went with reopening of the studio. You know, I think that's a given. But we're already talking about how all the safety measures are working out. I think, you know, a report. But, you know, both in Becca's and Keith's report, I'm sure they will show up. But I think board members will want to hear about how things have been developed. Oh, right. Reopening. OK, so a report on reopening for of community TV for volunteers. I'd be happy to add that. Yes, Joe. Was that Joe? Well, for both parties, the co-working and the volunteers. OK, they're on a frame building. Sure. All right. I'm happy to add that. Anything else? Board members or staff would like to see on the next agenda? All right. Seeing none, we can move on to our closed session. Besides our invited guest, I don't see any members of the public here. Do we want to stop the recording here to go off record? I don't. We need to make an adjournment to make a motion. Yeah. To the closed session. Right. So just as a what's it called? Procedural. Procedural question. Yeah. Do we want to stop the recording? When we go into closed session? Yeah. Yes. OK. So I'll entertain a motion to turn to closed session. We have a motion from Vice Chair Rand. To the closed session. Back in. OK, I have a motion from Vice Chair Rand, the second from Director Mannheim. I need to call the roll. I just need to call the roll. You're muted, Larry. Director O'Driscoll. Yes. Director DeLonghiay. Yes. Chair Magier. Yes. Director Mannheim. Yes. Director Gudger. Yes. Director Rand. Yes. Director Hall. Yes. All right. So we are now in closed session. Any members of the public who are here who weren't invited? Scram. And Dr. Can you. If you do close sessions, we always do separate meetings for closed session for this exact purpose in case that way you can have a secondary meeting invite where the public doesn't have it. Good idea. Yeah, I can also I could send us into a breakout room where nobody can go but us. But I don't I don't think I mean, you would see if somebody else was in there. We have 10 people here. I hope so. We don't have any other people. So should we just stop the recording? How do we stop the recording? Can you start it again later or will it overlap? I can pause it and we can question. Is there any way to know if somebody is called in on the phone number? Yeah, I would see him. OK. Yeah, they would there be a big telephone thing over here. So if there was anybody on here that shouldn't be, I can see everybody who's here. And yeah, it's just so I see the recording light is now blinking. I mean, it's paused. No, it is on. You I'm I just am waiting for you to tell me to pause. Oh, please pause the recording. There we go. We're recording. Welcome. We are back. The the board of Community Television is back from its closed session. Would you like Keith to report out what we discussed? We didn't take any action. So there's nothing to report out other than we discuss the item on the agenda. OK. Anything else? Are there any announcements? Then I'll make a motion to adjourn this meeting. I'll second. OK. All right. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Don't need a roll call for adjournment. No, we don't. Unanimous. Have a good dinner. Have a good evening and good meetings. And we'll see each other again next Monday. OK. Thank you all. Thursday.