 Okay. So welcome everyone. My name is Laura Adam Moniz. I am co-hosting and being the tech person for Bud. If you have any questions while he's doing his presentation, please put him in the chat. And I'll, it will have, will ask me at certain points if there's any questions and if there's something that's kind of relevant to what he's talking about at the moment. I might interrupt him at that point too. So just kind of bear with us on that aspect of it. And welcome. You found us on learn.wordpress.org or on Meetup. Continue. We're going to have some great stuff coming out for the, to continue with the 6.4 and with the new 2024 theme that's coming out also. So, here is Bud. Okay. Thank you, Laura. And hello everybody. Welcome. My name is Bud Krauss. Let me just do some housekeeping here. In other words, turn on my screen, right? Wouldn't that be a good idea? And after I get that going, let's see. We are ready. We didn't take long. You don't see my screen, do you? Laura, I do see your screen. Yeah, your PowerPoint. Oh, yes, you do. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Of course. Yeah, you're good. Let me, and I want to do one other thing. I want to get this hide the, yeah, the floating. Okay. All right. So now that didn't work. One other thing I've got to do. So bear with me. It says hide, floating. All right, that worked. Okay, so let's get started. Oh, it came back again. I don't know why I just can't get this thing. All right, that's life. So there I am. And I've got some more zoom UI that I want to get out of the way. It will get out of the way, I guess. So I'm talking to you are coming from Nutley, New Jersey at 12 miles west of New York City where it's cold and beautiful today and we're in the middle of fall. Actually, yeah, so it's pretty much peak around here. So it's really nice. My name is Joy of WP and I am an instructor. But what I really do today is create WordPress content for WordPress businesses. So I do all kinds of things like create how to videos and courses and stuff like what's new in WordPress 6.4 and on it goes. And I work with a lot of different WordPress vendors. So before we get going, let's find out who's here. In other words, not so much who's here, but what do you guys know? So we're going to take a little survey. I didn't tell you about this Laura. But everybody I want you to put in one of the following three entries that is I'm new to WordPress, or I use the black editor and I really like it or I don't use the black editor. If you don't know the black editor is also called Gutenberg. So I'll use those terms interchangeably. And I'm just curious, like, what do we have here? Who's here? So please enter that into the chat and Laura, you can do a quick little look for me to see. Now I didn't tell Laura about this. So she's, I really put her on the spot here. This is going to be a lot of twos. We have a 2.5 XD. That's cheating. There's no 2.5. All right. A couple of ones, but mostly twos. And how about any threes? Nobody's a three yet. That's interesting. Okay, good. All right. So before we get into the big picture, I do want to say that I'm a person who's visually impaired. So I may do something with my screen that looks a little weird or I don't see something as fast as you do. So just bear with me. We'll get this done. All right, as far as the big picture goes with what's new in WordPress. 6.4. I'm going to get a little trouble with something here. It's the third of three major releases this year. And the one that was before that 6.4 came out in August. This is being led by an underrepresented gender release team. And that's the second time this has happened in the history of WordPress. Hundreds of performance upgrades and site and security enhancements and accessibility improvements with keystrokes and things like that. Also, there are plenty of bug fixes. Aren't there always with any WordPress release. But one of the things we will be looking at today is the shiny new default theme. 2024. So we'll get into that a little bit now. Oh, don't worry. This is not going to be, you know, a half hour, you know, PowerPoint presentation. We're actually going to do live hands on demonstrations. All right. A few words for you developers out there. So this is 6.4 introduces the interactivity API and rather than talk about it, I'm going to show you that only two examples that I can show you right now of it in use. There's also now a new block hooks API or a block hook API. And if you know how WordPress works with its hooks, you'll understand that the stability to hook in or to insert code as a child block into a template or a template pattern. I'm sorry, a template, a template part or a pattern. I'm not going to show you an example of it. I just want you to know that's something new for developers. There's also this user block editing mode. There's actually three of these different modes. One's disabled mode. And there's a content mode and a default mode. Now these deal with how a developer can lock down a block. And there's also an improvement method to script loading, which of course means faster better performance. And finally, there's one that I really don't know much about or know the least about, which is the new admin notice functionality. I guess that's the ability to shut off all those nagging announcements that plugin developers and theme authors have in their source code. But I don't know. I'm not 100% sure. Anyway, let's focus on end users and that's pretty much what I'm going to do for most of this presentation. And by end users, I'm talking about content creators. And right now there's, so we have an enhanced command palette. Now the command palette was introduced in 6.3. And it's sort of like the, it's a text box that you can enter in different commands. I haven't used it all that much yet, but it's sort of like the spotlight search on a Mac where you just can call up this little box, put something in there, ask a question or execute a command. It's very similar to that. And if somebody wants me to show you that I will, but I don't really plan on doing that during my demonstrations. And there are no more media attachment pages, those useless media attachment pages, which just was a mess for SEO. They don't exist anymore for new installations. Now there is a way to turn them off for old installations, but you know, that's going to be one of those unless you ask me how to do it, I'm not going to do it. Okay, but you can, so instead of going to a media attachment page, I think you're just going to see the media itself without the attachment page because as I've said they were pretty useless for it. All right. Now my demonstrations what am I going to show you. All right, first, we're going to look at the, why is this in the way here so I can't get this. We're going to be looking at some of the design tool enhancements. And what else do we have here. I will show you that interactivity API in action. Some of the site editor upgrades. And my favorite the quality of life improvements what would we do without them. And they're usually in every WordPress release. And finally, as I mentioned the 2024 theme, it's the new theme. Okay, that is shipping with this. Now, we're not ready to do that. We're not going to do the summing up yet. Let's do the demonstration. So let's get out of here. And any questions so far. There shouldn't be but just in case Laura. Laura, are you there. I'm there. I'm here. All right, you know the old. Oh, no, don't tell me no one could hear me. Okay, so Peter was at. How, how do you turn off the attachment pages on the old installs. Okay, all right, I will hold that to later on okay because we'll come back to that. Well, that's a really good one but there is a way to do it. Okay, I'm still having trouble with my getting rid of something here so just give me one more second. I don't understand. Wow, this doesn't work. Okay, I'm just going to have to live with this. Just give me. All right. Okay, so WordPress 6.4 this is I think the screen that you're likely to be seeing in a couple of days now it's scheduled to come out on November 7. Right now it's in what's called release candidate three so it's almost ready. I've noticed there's some changes between RC two and RC three. There's very subtle, but right, you know, there isn't going to be major there's nothing major that's going to happen between what I'm going to show you. And the final version of 6.4. And I do want to show you this right over here in the plugins I always like to tell people show them like what I'm working with so that's it I'm just using the WordPress beta tester there's no hocus pocus I'm not using the Gutenberg plugin I shouldn't be at this point. So you know that you're just seeing what WordPress will be like in a couple of days actually. All right. First thing I want to do is show you some of the some of the design tool changes. Now, and for that I'm specifically going to focus on two things right now actually it'll be three but it's two things one is the ability to add a background image to the group block. And the other one is the ability to add a a excuse me a button into the navigation block. Now, I'm going to show you this through the black editor, but you can do this. I'm sorry through the site editor, but anywhere group block appears or a navigation button appears you can do what I'm about to show you. All right, so I'm going to take you into appearance. I'm going to take you into the editor. And actually I don't want to do it that way. Sorry, I want to do a little bit different. So let's go out to the site. And let's do it this way. I'm going to go into site editor. It's just a different way to do this. And. All right. And right over here, let's take a look at the list view. In the header, I've got the just, I don't know if I've got to the right place. Yeah. The group block. Actually, is this where I want to go? No, sorry. This is not like me. But I want to do to make life simpler. I was, I initially was going to make life simpler than I made it more complicated. And now I'm going to make it simpler again. I'm going to go into patterns. And let's just, let's just go right over to the header area right over here. Okay. Right. You may know that this kind of got rearranged in 6.3 where all the, you know, the header, the footer got pushed into the pattern section that's new, not in 6.4 but in 6.3. So what I'm going to do is change the header in for all of my pages and posts and blog archive. And here we go. Okay. So this is what I want. Sorry to take you down the wrong place here. So in my group block, I said you can add a background image and I'm going to do that right by going over to the style tab right over here. And this is new. We can put in a background image. I'm going to go into my media library. And I'm going to use this image right over here. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. And they've also given us the ability to adjust the minimum height here, which is good. I'm going to use pixels. Now you can change the unit of measurements. You can see this over here. This is typical almost for anything now is the ability to do that. But one thing you can't do is you can't change the focal point or the background image position that you can do with the cover block. This is similar to the cover block. It isn't exactly or let's just say it's not as robust as the cover block, but I do suspect that over time, you will be able to insert a background image into any block in WordPress or just about any block that would make sense to do a background image. And that's fine. I'm going to leave it just like this. Now what I also want to do is go into my navigation. And I said you can now add in the nav here is the navigation. Just give me one second here. The navigation block. And I said you can add a button block and I'm going to do that right over here. I'm going to insert and this right over here. The button. Okay. And now we should have it now you don't see it because I've got to get rid of this up here and now we see it. And I'm going to change this. So I need to add some text here. And I'm going to say login and log out. And I need to also add the link, of course, and I happen to have me see. Yeah, I happened to have a login log out page. If you didn't know this, there is an actual block that does the logging in and logging out it presents that or shows that kind of interface in the block which is great with something that we didn't have in the classical version of WordPress. Anyway, I'm going to save this. I have a look. So those are two changes to design tool enhancements right off the bat. And I'm going to go to the home to the front and you'll see. Okay, so this headers now applying throughout the entire site. And oh yeah, I said login. And just to show you. You can what's down here. I can't see it because of the but you can log in and log out right through this. So that's really nice. Okay, now I said there was two right well actually there's a third one let's have a look for design enhancements. And right over here. Vertical text. Now if you love vertical text, you are really in luck. So it's not my thing. Okay, I must admit it's not my, but I'm going to show you how you can do it so let's let's edit the page. Okay. Before we jump into that question is, can, yeah, can I style that but I was just going to say, yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead, ask me the question. Can I style that button. Michelle is asking the way I style other buttons on the site. Yes, yes, you can same. It's, it's just the buttons block, which contains button blocks, right. For example, I showed you, I just had one button within the buttons block. You have to be careful how you say all that stuff. Okay, but the answer is yes. All right, so right over here. I want to change this now to vertical. Okay. Not really because, as I've said, I'm not big for as somebody has visually impaired vertical text, not so much. Okay. So I'm going to go to, where am I going to go? Oh yeah, to topography and see where's my topography. Here we go. And in the settings, right over here, the three dots. And I'm going to scroll down over here and this is new text orientation. And I'm going to click on that. And if I got it right. And it's so hard sometimes to work with this. What should happen is, let's see if I got it. Yeah, this is new. This is just added because I clicked on that text orientation. So it shows up right over here in the interface and right over here. There you go. So you can go ahead and tilt your head to, to read it. And so if you want. Now, I still find there's limitations as to positioning this. Let's say I wanted to get it closer to the bottle. I had some trouble doing that. Maybe somebody knows there's a better way to do it. But the way this is laid out is that it's a two column layout, just one and two. So, all right, but we're going to move on unless somebody has a question. Yeah, I'm just going to update the page. And that's good. Now I did say, so really those are three different design enhancements or tools to improve or enhance design. And I did say that there was a something called the interactivity API and there are two examples I'm going to show you. Now there's only two because they've only, they've, this is a brand new API and I expect that developers are going to use it more and more. And we're not even going to be aware of it. But here's, here's an example. Here are two examples of how it works. One is, is here, light box. Let's see. So check it out. Check this out. So you have a gallery over here and a single image over here. Okay. And if I click on, well, look at this, you can see, oh, a light box effect. Now I can't go to the next one like you would like think, right? I could go, well, this one's not going to do it. And this one does. Okay, now it's not broken. I set it up this way. So don't worry. Oh, it must be broken. No. And here's another example. So anytime I hover over, you can see. Okay, got it. And then nothing over here. And for the single image. Okay, so it works. So what's going on? How does this work? Well, let's go into the page. And take a look. So again, this is the interactivity API in, in, in effect, that's giving us the light box effect. And if I just click on this image now you probably know that galleries are just nothing but collections of single image blocks. And if I clicked on this one over here, which I did, I selected this image. And I go down to right over here, it says, expand to click. That's it. And if I click this one over here, you'll see, no, that's not selected. So that's it. It's just a matter of toggling on and off. Now you might be thinking like, Oh, I have a whole site that I want to use that for. I'm going to have to click on every one of those. Nope. You can set the global style in the, if you're using a block theme, you can go into styles and set it there so that it'll apply to all images across the site. And then so that's the default. And so then if you want an image not to expand on click, then you would go into that one image and just deselected so you would have what you'd see right over here. So that to me makes a lot of sense. So it's a lot more useful than what you're just seeing over here. At least that is it's a lot easier to work with than what you're seeing here. And the same thing with this over here. Again, it's just a single image and it's selected over there. All right, so that's thought. That's one. Now the other example is pretty subtle, but it's there. And I'm going to go, it took me a little while to figure out this one. But if you go to the, let's see, blog, I think we have it over here. Okay. So I have a blog that has two different loops or two different query loops. One is for this category over here, which is scenes. And then the other one is for food. And, okay, fine. It looks kind of standard ish. Oh, by the way, since I am using 2024. And we'll look a little more into this, you know, a little bit. You can see one of the hallmarks seems to be rounded corners for all the images. Okay, doesn't have to be but that's sort of the default way of styling images in 2024. Anyway, down over here, if I click on new page, now you have to watch this really carefully. Did that reload? Laura, what do you think? Did that reload? Do you see a page reload there? I did not because of the fact I was looking at the chat. Aha! Okay, and now this one over here. Let's see. Let's take a look at that one. Yeah, it's kind of hard to tell. Let me just take a look at what's going on here. So for that, I am going to go into the site editor because that's where all this is taking place. And I'm going to go over here. And I sort of forgot how I set this up. So I'm going to go into this and we're going to go into, I want to see the query loop for the column on the left hand side. So that would be group columns on the left hand side. And then this one over here. Okay. And right over here, it says, let's see over here on the left hand right hand side. This is what's new. It says force page reload. Now, interestingly enough, they just changed this because in release candidate two, it says pagination enhancement. So either way, the page is not going, if you, what's going to happen here is in this instance, the page does reload compared to, let's look at the other one over here. And that is, we'll look at this other loop over here. That is, this is the second one, the one to the right. This is the, yeah, the one, this is the one, yeah. This is the one to the right. And what's selected over here is right over here. So in this case, what do we have here? This is the, this is not the default behavior. This is the browser, browsing between the pages requires a full page reload. Yeah, so that's, that is, does not require. Let me, did I see that right? Requires a full page reload. Oops, sorry. Let's see that again. Let me see if we can actually take a better look at that and understand what's going on here. Like I said, I had a little hard time understanding this, but it shouldn't be that difficult. So, when you're in the page, when you're at the page, right here, yeah, when you click next page, it like reloads the whole thing. Exactly. Exactly. It's more subtle now. But now here, right, right, right. But now here on the right side. Yeah, you see, you can't see it because it's, it doesn't reload. Yeah. Yeah. Did I get that right? Anyway, so there, that's the, that's the interactivity API, those two examples, the force page reload and the, and the light box effect. Now let's have a look at some of the changes to the site editor. And I think the one I'm about to show you is the most interesting, yes, question. Before we move on, there was a question about the light box view. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry I'm not asking about the question. Sorry. But no, that's okay. I think everyone's very interested in everything so there hasn't been a lot of questions. Everybody's wait, hold on a second everybody will have lunch on me when this is done so you want to stay there. Okay. We do have 51 people so don't make promises. Oh, no, no, I don't. I'm not a man of my word so go ahead. Is there a way to navigate the gallery while in the light box view because they're saying there is no way to navigate the gallery while in the light box view. That's right. That is right now that's the way it is now can will that change probably. Okay, so if we go back to the light box. That is exactly correct. There is no way as of now to let's say you click over here and then you'd say let's say there'd be an arrow over here to cycle through the other images. Can't do it. Not yet. Do I think it's going to come probably. I mean you could sort of remember this is all early stuff you're I mean you're looking at things that are newly minted and they're not fully developed but they're coming and there you can use them now. Okay, so I want to talk about that site editor stuff because I think what I'm about to show you is like the most interesting of all the changes in 64. Actually, the first thing I want to show you is let's jump into the site editor. And first thing I want to show you is in styles. Okay, if I click on so we open this whole thing up now. And it has a lot of potential. Oh my goodness. What am I doing. Okay. All right. Is right over here. If you go over to the styles icon. Oh excuse me, and you go right over here now we've had this this is the style book. You're probably familiar with this. But right over here. This is new this is revisions history now I know what you're thinking. Oh no don't tell me it's gonna be like revisions history like pages and posts and WordPress. No, this is actually the future of WordPress. So, if I click on revisions history. Now you can see a listing starting with the oldest that is the where I started and each one of these remembers as long as you do a save. It remembers and stores the information about what the styling looked like at a particular point in time. So I'm going to just click on a few of these and you can see. Okay now I didn't do a whole lot of big changes here but I just wanted to do this for demonstration purposes is that there are. Now here's what's also cool too and you'll see you'll get it and if people are following WordPress closely they'll get this in a second. So notice right over here. This isn't me this is my son. Okay now of course my son doesn't do this, but that's WordPress is dad's thing. But what I'm getting at is that different users are recorded in their style changes so that you could work collaboratively on style changes and have them saved. And of course, you know it's more than just the colors over here that can change it can change anything and as long as you save them. It's fantastic so you can say like hey we did a great styling back here. Let's apply this. Okay and let's work with this. I just applied it so now I can make all the changes based on. You know I can go on and continue to make. I can just go and open up the style book and start making changes right through here. So that's, I think it's really interesting now why do I get so excited about this because WordPress, the Gutenberg phase three is collaboration, and you can see this is opening up the door to how people are going to be able to collaborate. And make it have some sense to it as far as saving. So that's one of the versions of what they're doing. I'm going to go back to history, and you can see also you can delete all changes to or you can go back to the beginning. I'm just going to go over here, and actually just go back to here and apply. And that's fine. Okay, so as long as you click to save that's the way it works now as long as you click save. That will be saved. And I just, I do get a little excited about this because I can see the futures of WordPress in phase three right through here of what's going to happen. All right. Now, I want to take a look at something that I also think is pretty interesting and that is, let's go over to patterns. All right. Now, 2024 comes loaded with patterns. If there's one thing I could say about 2024, lots of patterns. And I'm not going to go through all the patterns obviously, but you can see the patterns are categorized that's not really new. But we can now create our own patterns again that's not really new but we can also apply our own categories and that's definitely a new feature so let's just create a pattern. I'm not going to go through all of them. Oh, I do want to just show you one right over here. I have a tech. I want to look for gallery. So I have five patterns and galleries. And as a preview of what's coming, take a look at this now you say like wait a minute, how could you have a blank pattern. No, it's not blank. So if I click on it, what you see is like or over here you see like these placeholders like images right or like with little spaces of like where images could go. Oh, that's new. All right. So I want to be able to create one of these so if I create let's say a gallery pattern of my own. How do I do that. Okay. All right, let me show you. So I'm going to go over to here. And now we've had this before but this is new over here the ability to right from here import a pattern. I'm going to show you importing and exporting in a bit. Let's just focus in on right over here. So I'm going to give it a name. Let's call it something fancy like Bud's pattern. Okay. And I said it would be fancy and then I could enter my own category name if I want or I'm not so creative here so I am going to use an existing category. And of course, it's going to be a gallery so why not just add gallery so yes can you add more than one category to the pattern. Sure. So, find out right over here. What does this mean if you're familiar with this with reusable blocks this is exactly what this is a synced pattern. And that is if you make a change to this pattern anywhere on the site. It'll change whatever that pattern is being used. Well, that's okay. I can also change this a little later on and that's what I'm going to do. I'm just going to leave it right like this. And let's start. And what I'm going to do is how are we doing on time we're getting close to the end here so I just want to check on time okay we're doing good. Yeah, we're at 237 so we're good. Yeah, and any questions right now while I'm looking at something. Yeah when you were showing that revisions. Is there a time limit on the history of that save. Do you know anything about that. Is it a safe revision item to keep. No, not yet. Nope, but you know what this is again, first look right this is the first iteration released in 6.4 and do I think that's going to change you bet okay so what you're just talking about you're going to see it. Not just in style revisions but in page revisions post revisions custom post type revisions any kind of revisions, you're going to see a sort of a list that you can go back to it's like, I guess it'll be a lot like Google Docs that you can go back and see. Yeah, yeah it's the whole part of the collaboration. Right, being able to work on a document with multiple people so that's right that's in real time to grow. Yeah. And also right this is only going to develop. It's really our first look at phase three and this is only going to grow and change as time goes on so. And also don't forget, we're talking about real time changes. As far as I know, okay so you can't do that now but I think that's coming all right so what I'm going to do is I'm going to start with them right over here. I'm going to do my own pattern here let's just let's type in. I'm going to make it real simple, because once you understand the concept, I don't have to make this complicated, and we'll do this and now I'm going to enter. I'm going to add, let's see. A. Okay I'm just going to do this over here actually. I think that's the best way to do this columns. Columns like so, and I'll get this out of the way. And here is the here's something that's new so I am going to just choose an image right over here. All right, I'm going to insert my image, but rather than look in the media library for it. I'm just going to go right over here into the where are we here. Let's get out of let's go into here and into the image. And right over here aspect ratio. I'm going to pick, let's say a square box. All right, didn't change all that much I don't think and now this one over here. I'm also going to add an image. And I'm going to do the same thing. I'm going to change the aspect ratio. And you can see the ones that are there by default. I'm sure that, you know, different theme authors will have different dimensions put in here. And let's do. Okay, something like that. All right. And we'll save it. And I'm keeping this very simple. Actually, what I also want to do before we move off is to inside the group block. I'm going to put in a background color to make it a little easier to see. You know, okay. All right, I think that'll work. All right, so we're saving this pattern. Perfect. And what I want to do is use it. And I'm going to go over to page. Let's just add a new page. Oops, page, new page. And we're just going to now look at this. So, so, oops, that happened so fast. I'm going to leave what happened is and I don't like this and I maybe they will change this but Yeah, if I do this, add new. So 2024 pops up all these themes and you could probably look around for mine or Or your pattern actually not a theme but a pattern. I don't see anything. So I'm going to just close this out and then we're just going to put in the word pattern over here. P. I'm not even a title it what I'm going to do is I could just type in let's say slash. There we go. So my pattern is over here. Now I could also get it right through here. I could have gone to the insert or chosen pattern. And my patterns. This is new. Okay, I mean, this isn't I mean the fact that I created a pattern. It'll show up in there and it'll also show up of course in the gallery pattern as well. But I just did it like this. And now you can see what's really good about this is you just click on this. You go into the media library and you can add your media. Now, one thing you want to be careful of remember. I showed you that this is a synced pattern meaning right now if I once I get this thing going wherever I change the pattern whenever it's used it will change throughout the site. And I may not want to do that so I could unsync it and I'm going to just do that by right over here. Whoops. So a lot of controls right detach and now it's just a regular group block over here. Okay, I'm going to save some time by not you get the idea. I'll just do it real quick. I'll just do one of these media and put this in here. And so on so that is really great now why is that great, because before we'd have to put, we'd have to populate these with we'd have to populate our patterns that we created with images, we don't have to do that anymore. We can just put in placeholders and then populate our images so that is a time saver I really like that idea. We are heading down the home stretch here just a couple other things I want to get in here. Oh yeah. So what is really nice in case you don't know about this. I'm just save this. What's really nice is we go into the site editor, and we go into right over here patterns. Hold on patterns, down here, manage patterns, manage all patterns or manage my patterns, my patterns. And you can see my patterns over here right the one I created, but I can export this as a JSON file. I'm not going to do that you probably know how to do that, but I'm going to add a pattern so or import a pattern. So for that, that's not what I want to do. Is it? No, I don't want to. I don't think I want to do it that way. Hold on. I want to do a new pattern. I want it. All right. Well, there's a couple of ways to import. I'm going to do it like this. Let's go back. And I'm going to try something I haven't really tried yet, but this won't take long right over here. I showed you this a minute ago. And that is import. And it should write. And then right over here, I have a pattern that I created with another, from another site using a different theme. Now it was a block theme. All right, like this one. And if I go over here now to my patterns, I have this pattern in over here. Well, it's just that simple. And of course, one last look over here, we go over here. It's in there now and you can manage it and you can edit the patterns right from here. If I click on edit pattern, it'll just take you to a regular page and you can just edit the pattern. Remember, gotta be careful if it's a synced pattern or it's not a sync pattern. You have to always know that last or we're just getting to the end. Oh, we're not quite there. Any questions while I'm fumbling around here, Laura. Um, we just we're just having a little discussion about that. Okay, the, the, the manage the revision thing. Is it something new. There are plugins out there that can manage revisions. So, right. Just clarifying some things for people. Okay, okay. I want to, we're almost done. I want to do, excuse me, a couple of those little quality of life improvements as they say, and yeah, so for here, we're going to go into that light box example. And we're going to go over here. And I'm going to show you list view. Oops, I'm sorry, list view. Now look at this list view has images. Now I really, you know, personally, I don't find much value to this. That's a little editorial there. But every image now has a little thumbnail. It's pretty small of what the image looks like. So, you know, fine, if you like that idea. But here's something I think is a little more useful quite frankly, is that if you have Let's do, let's put every, this is not. Let's do, let me get out of here and show you real quick. I thought I had something in there to show you, but just give me one second here. And right over here, back to patterns. And we're going to go. My patterns. And I can do it this way. Because this one uses the group block. Now watch this, you can now go over here and change or rename the group block. And let's just call this, we'll just call this pattern, pattern block. Okay, now it's not a very imaginative name. You'll see what happens is it now shows up as pattern block. Now I think eventually you're going to be able to rename all of the items in the list view. So that they'll be a little more, well, you know, so columns can't rename it yet, but maybe, you know, that's coming that we'll be able to rename that. All right, last is 2024. Sure. But I have a question. Oh yeah, sure, go ahead. From the chat. Could you save a template as a pattern in order to export an import into a different full site editing theme? All right, let me read that say that again. I think the answer is yes, but go ahead and say that one more time. Could you save a template as a pattern in order to export it right right export and import into a different theme. Yeah, as long as you're saving it as a pattern. Yes. But I, I, you know, hold on, let me just take a quick look at that one because I don't think that would work. So I templates. Manage all templates right over here. I don't know or if I knew I forgot. So. Yeah, I know what you're saying in the chat says, yes, that is possible. So, yeah, okay. It would make sense that that's possible. Thanks for the help on that. So, again, you can create a pattern. And then, or you can create a template. And push that into pattern or save it as a pattern. Right. And then export that into another website. As long as you can export the answer is yes so that would make sense that you can do that. All right. One last thing is 2024 and and then I'll answer any questions and I know somebody wanted to see how do you change the get rid of the media attachments. Yeah, you can get rid of media attachments. I can't move my I have some UI in the middle over here. Okay, you have about 10 minutes. Okay, we're good. We're very good. Okay, so I got as much as I could. Yeah, I want to do this. I want to do a summary and then question so here it is 2024. This is a demo site of the of the theme and it will of course be. Now if you want to get it right now go to GitHub and do a search for 2024. You can download the code and that's that. But because that's, I think the only way you can get it. I've seen quite a bit of this already actually the one thing I want to show you here right here, even though this is a very flexible default theme and that's true you can really use this thing for anything and a lot of people think this is the best WordPress stock theme ever. I don't know. That's not for me to say, but initially or it's going to be marketed and geared for entrepreneurs photographers or artists and bloggers. And so for example I think this one's kind of interesting here. Again, these are just examples doesn't mean you're locked into this style and anything like that. I thought what was kind of interesting is, oh sidebars are back, you know, they were gone and now they're back. So maybe so maybe not but you get the idea. It comes. Most of the style variations have the two. There are two different fonts of note that come with it, but a little disappointing here was the fact that the font library is probably a lot of people here may know was not as they say the technical term it was hunted to to WordPress 6.5. So, hopefully, we'll see the font library once and for all now if you got to see any of the font library. It's really great. Okay, and everybody's going to like it I think it's the ability really to use easily use any cut any font with their site right now it's not that easy to do. But in 6.5. It's going to be pretty easy to use and I thought it was really cool the way I was very disappointed that it's not in this version but it's going to come. Alright, last thing is really the summit all up. And for that, I will go over to my PowerPoint for a slider to and let's go over to here and we'll just go down to here. Okay, and I'm going to move this out of the way. And that is, if you haven't noticed this is definitely a smaller release. Okay, there were not really those show stopping, you know, can't miss heart throbbing whatever features in 6.4. And the primary reason was we had a very short release cycle. 6.3 came out in August. And there wasn't time to really do more than what was done but still, I think there's some significant improvements in the experience of working with WordPress without a whole lot of real fancy stuff going on. And as I said, we did see changes to design tools in the site editor. And is it the end of phase two well there in a way it was phase two was supposed to have already ended I guess phase two will really never end, but they will always be making improvements to the site editor. And of course, you know, stay tuned for 6.5 which I think is going to be a biggie. And with that, I will be Oh, one last thing. Where to reach me. So you can take a picture of this right now get your cell phones out. And it's but it joy of WP.com and Oh, if you use that thing called Twitter or X or whatever it's called. It's always going to be called both. I'm at joy of WP and please follow me because I only have a thousand eight followers as of today and I need to get to 2000 like in a week or so. No, I then that's not going to happen. And that's really it. So I'm hopefully that you learn something that you didn't know already. And you found it worth your time and you know I'm happy to answer any questions. Oh, should I answer that question that somebody asked at the top that dealt with how to get rid of that media attachments page. Let's do that one. Okay, I said I would. So let's get that one done. And actually, for that, there isn't a plugin yet for that but you know you can figure it will be, but you don't have to wait for the plugin. You can actually you can go into your database and make a change in the options table, or you can do this. So I didn't know you could do this until recently this is like what I learned the other day. And shame on me for not even knowing this but you know you can't know everything. I'm going to get out of there. And we're going to go into. So in my URL and the WP admin I'm going to type in options that PHP. Okay. And of course, this is really direct access into your database and right over here somewhere it says attachment WP. I don't know where it is. But if you scroll down here somewhere, you know, trust me, it says something like WP attachment disabled or something like that. You have to change the value. Let me just see if I can find it real quick. You know, there's a lot of stuff going on here. I think it's right here. No. Anyway, the value has to be changed from one to zero or zero to one I forgot which one. And, and that's it and then you just can save it. Of course you want to be careful with this you got to back up and all that because you know you're playing with the database here. And that's it and I haven't tried it myself so I'm not going to guarantee. Now, fresh new WordPress installs of 6.4. There will be no media attachments this is only for people who want to get rid of media attachment pages all together which I think is a good thing because it just wrecks up your seat, or doesn't help SEO at all. Okay, I hope that helped. Next. Any other questions. No questions. Really. That's scary. Anybody still here. Yes, we have 41 people still now. All right, so we're all coming over for lunch is that it. I don't think so. Well, you know where to reach me and I do respond to email and I do respond to DMs and Twitter and stuff like that so if you have any questions about anything. Let me know. And, and yes, this is being recorded so the link will be on in the learn WordPress or WordPress TV. Give us a day or so, since I'm still new at the transcribing and in all that, setting that all up, but thank you everyone appreciate that and thank you Laura. Yeah, you're welcome. Take care. All right, bye everyone.