 Activity that help us to improve our planning and initial thinking ability have give all the information in this project by consulting book. This call is now being recorded. And my topic presentation project by myself and our course name is Independent Rise of Independent Research Paper and our Instructional name is Pastor J. Kumar S.A.M. and today my research project acknowledgement is I would like to express my special thanks of get you to my instructor Pastor J. Kumar S.A.M. who gave me the golden opportunity to do this wonderful project on the topic study on the rise of depressions among young adults in India mostly in Tamil Nadu which also helped me in doing a lot of research and I came to know about so many new things I am really really thankful to them. Next my research table of contents which I have met number one definitions of depressions and how many youth in India are depressed, Tamil Nadu top depressions in disorder, top causes of suicide of Tamil Nadu peoples, what are the main causes of depressions among the youth which age group is mostly depressed, image of graph chart and depressions according to age and what symptoms of depressions we can see in the youth or adult and how to fight depression strategy and treatment this all included in table of contents. Now we will see the definitions of depressions. What is the depressions? First we know that what is the depressions, why people are suffering from these depressions. Depressions means major depressive disorders is a common and serious medical illness that negatively affect how you feel the way you think and how you act. Fortunately it is also treatable, depressions causes feeling of sadness and loss of interest in activities youths enjoy. It can lead to variety of emotions and physical problems and can decrease your ability to functions at work and home and we can see the pictures of depressions, how depressions people are looking like that. They are not interested in their minds, they are not doing any work, they are looking very sad. We can see in these pictures. Next, how many youth in India are depressed? In new data released by the WHO, Miss World Health Organization shows that 9.3% of youth in between youth 80 to 24 years in India suffered depressions in the earlier month of the lockdown made for 22-20 which increased to 16.8% by March 2022. Why percent of youth are depressed in India? We can see in this page that result available data 12%, 1.2% to 21% is searched by clinic based studies that youth people are depressed and we see in the school based studies 3% to 68% and in community studies that people are in depressed is 0.1% to 6.9% to 94% that people may be depressed in this circle. Now I say that the Tamil Nadu top in depressive disorders. Why Tamil Nadu top in depressive disorder? There are two main reasons. Tamil Nadu we are the biggest in depressive disorders in the country. Disability caused by the disease which makes people sad, fatigued and disinterested in any activity besides giving them sleep apnea loss of appetite is this high in this state means this there in Tamil Nadu there is one disease that we call sleep apnea means this is the very very dangerous disease we have searched that sleep apnea means people with the lack of oxygen that not from brain so from lungs to this not going to brain and people are many in the heart attack people are died from this disease so it is very dangerous and large or large of people are died from this disease in Tamil Nadu this is caused by depressive disorders. Next top causes of suicide of Tamil Nadu I am going to see the pictures of suicide because there is a reasons we can see that the Tamil Nadu reported the highest number of suicide by counting for 12.5% of total cases reported in 2012. When it comes to specific issues like love affairs and failure in exams they have led to suicide the state has again top in the south means there is a two reasons love affairs and the failure of the examination is the reason that people are doing this wrong step in their life and next we see that what are the main causes of depressions among the youth the main causes of depressions of youth are a stressful events childhood experiences life events types of thinking other mental health problems physical health problems family history medications replacement drugs and alcohol this is the causes of depressions among the youth next which group is mostly depressed and we see the chart here also between 18 to 24 years and we see the graph chart of depressions according to age there's a five color boxes and we see the yellow color boxes shows that moderately severe depressions and dark blue boxes shows the minimal depressions light blue boxes shows the severe depressions and orange color boxes shows the mild depressions and silver color shows the boxes moderate depression and we see the chart here that some here's the color boxes is we can see the age also between 11 to 17 and 18 to 24 here we see the light blue color boxes severe depressions and we see this the chart decreases results by age next we see the what symptoms of depressions we can see in youth or an adult here to some symptoms we can find depressions in youth or an adult number one there is a sadness means there is sadness there with crying and without crying we can see their face next is NXT means they lot of they are worrying next lack of energy and temper outburst and valence episodes easily irritated whatever we say they will easily irritate then sleeping too little and too much also then we see the how to fight depressions ways to help yourself for depressions number one exercise and take a 15 to 30 minutes please walk every day eat healthy food and drink plenty of water some people with depressions do not feel much like eating and express yourself next do not do else on problems notice good things this is the strategy to fight the depressions people can people can come out from the depression also and at last we see that 16 strategies and treatment to fight the depressions what is the treatment to fight the depression we can see here that we can talk to someone where to talk to someone we feel some relax in our life next is journalism and so I see a doctor and you have one more minute Rebecca yes sir yes sir mindfulness body and mind exercise balance type avoid alcohol supplement this is a treatment as a strategy of the depression my last conclusion is here I came to the end this project on the topic study on the rise of depressions among young adults mostly I will do and I would like to share my experience while doing the project I learned many new things about this research project it was a wonderful learning experience for me while working on this project next is my bibliography from where I'm taking for successfully completing my project five I have taken help from the following websites from Google's and YouTube's and Google images and book where I have taken feeling great by David D. Bush's a lot hopefulness next and my people which I have taken the help from our instructors and our parents and our friends thank you right thank you ribika so ribika one major question is what is the biblical perspective in all this I'm not sure if you've included that in the report but in whatever you presented the biblical perspective and the biblical recommendation so I'd like to hear that from you please sir my thought for these depressions people is that people why sorry why it means why a people why lack of people suffering from this disease and taking a wrong steps from their life and they're taking wrong steps like inside reason is that so they did not have any hope and they're hopeless people they have no no any hope and but I pray for those people who suffering from depressions I want to personally encounter with Jesus and personally express with Jesus because in Bible says in Matthew 11 28 come to me and all you who are worried and butter and I will give you rest because God is the here was alone which he is a peace giver God to the suffering people yeah so my my question is why is that biblical perspective of depression and biblical recommendation for overcoming depression or you know the solution to that why is that not part of the presentation why is that not part of the paper because you know our research paper has to have a biblical perspective that is why we have included that in our course right independent research it has to have a biblical perspective so I'm sorry yeah so that is a main thing you know in our research paper the biblical perspective should be the main thing because without that it just becomes another article another you know in another project but the reason why we have it in this course is that it should very strongly have a biblical perspective in terms of identifying the issue in terms of what the Bible says about depression maybe how should it be handled and is that the lasting solution you know those kind of things so I just wanted to mention that those the you know the main core of it I find is missing yeah so I just wanted to mention that yeah and so did you have yeah a lot of things you mentioned the bibliography and also the source of research about did you also you know meet with people and if so what was the sample size um did you meet do you have questionnaires or was it data from the internet that you mostly that yes sir from the internet is it okay yes okay okay thank you thank you so then we have linden linden if you're ready we can start I can see that you're in a nice cafe you can see that you're in a nice cafe it's raining outside yeah I know no it's a good morning all can you see the screen yeah I can we can see your screen it can be a little bigger because I think it's in the present of you yeah so that's taking up space what do you mean sorry no it's it's you're using the present of you right so yeah if you can make it a slideshow and then present it I think it'll be fine but if you can't it's fine you can just go with this and also can you increase your mic volume please um just a little bit so I think your mic volume has to go up it's just a moment I think it's I'm sorry it seems a little muffled so if you know I but it's it's seems a little muffled is it better now yeah yeah okay speak something again uh yeah it's one in case a lot yes yes this is this is good yeah hey let me know if you can see my screen yeah yeah yeah you can start linden okay well in this way that the slides will not move on fortunately well I only tried with the present of you so I'm not sure okay go for it no problem start all right so good morning all and so the presentation of the research that I did it's about the denominational divergence and there are two denominations that I chose in particular and the differences with respect to those denominations and how they view other Christian denominations do they respect them do they mingle with each other uh is there the doctrines the theology that they share uh do they are are they in sync with the bible are they in sync or with other religions do they come uh in unison with other denomination is what I looked at as part of my research so uh navigating barriers the great revival so the differences in the denominational uh the christian theology is and that I think is that a barrier or does that hinder the the much anticipated revival that we think in any case that we live in so that's the uh the topic that I I chose um for uh my research okay so uh the the presentation will go in this order introduction background theological perspectives and denominational differences uh and then finally barriers to revival strategies for unity so uh firstly the unity and the proclamation uh we we look at the the strategies the uh hierarchy which uh every denomination has the theology which they have you know every every denigration denomination have a strong theological foundation which they believe in and they have a strong reason for the formation of that uh denomination and and uh you know uh they go by the tradition they go by the belief and they stay true to it of course uh you know there are uh I mean irrespective of the denomination and theology it's about the perspective of the people and the time where we live in and the age of internet with you know people that are intellectual people who are open to a lot of uh information around uh it depends really on the the the mindset of the people whether to speak to the denomination that they belong to the traditional values that they use to adhere to all these years uh or they are people are you know these days free to choose uh to move out of their traditional denomination to other uh churches or other denomination for for several reasons again it's based on the individual's perspective these days but uh this paper also explores the strategies for the church leadership to foster unity among Christian churches transcending denominational boundaries which is crucial for the harmonious proclamation of the goodness okay and um this research uh focus focus on the denominational differences within Christianity particularly that may hinder a significant revival our outpouring of the Holy Spirit so there are differences there are theological differences there but the primary focus of this research is what affects the great revival that we are anticipating and looking forward to and what could push the the spreading of the gospel sharing the good news the proclamation of Jesus Christ uh all over the world yeah so that's about it and the denominational difference divergence uh just refers to the differences uh that the literal meaning is difference in the lives practices and doctrines across various uh denomination Christian denomination okay and when we dig into the uh the the denominations the the rules you know there are there are this you know Calvary mistake and Armenian theology uh there are also you know the charismatic views the satiation of views and why it is formed who supports it uh now what are their motives what was the reason behind it I've detailed them all in my presentation uh sorry in in my research paper so I'm not going to dig deep into it for now but if it's one uh you know the Catholic beliefs the traditions the values you know the hierarchy which they follow which goes from the pope to you know the archdiocese and you know uh bishops and the the parish priests and so on whereas the the Protestants which goes by uh you know the the diocese of the bishop and then the the presbyters in charge and chairperson and so on they have their own uh hierarchy as well which I have also uh detailed in in in my research paper uh so uh and why uh why we have this uh uh theology what's the root cause behind it okay so everything starting from uh the the deformation of the Catholic Church and the reformation starting with uh Martin Luther you know there there are uh strong reasons for it which the Catholics believe why they are Catholics why they want to follow the certain doctrine and the Lutherans uh they strongly believe about the reformation as to why Martin Luther came out of uh you know the the priesthood uh from a Catholic background and why he had to you know why he wanted a reformation to happen and from there on the reformation uh you know went on from steps to step and you know it break down from Lutheran to you know other Protestants and you know and thereafter the Pentecostal so there are enough reasons if I have to dig deeper into it uh you know people could be offended based on their denominational values but I have detailed them all here and in my uh in my theory and I've mentioned them uh with respect to what each denomination believes and you know what what they do not believe what they do not accept the doctrines and the theology which they share amongst denominations and something that they do not uh accept or acknowledge okay so uh I apologize for the blurred image but this is what I could get from online source although I thought it's it's more uh informative enough but looking into this picture uh if I have to you know quickly rephrase the Catholics they are the more rationalist complex systems of doctrine they created a framework that many futures churches used in fact that's one of the contribution of the Roman Catholics or Catholics and Calvinism is the Catholicism of Protestantism and Lutheran here it's the Orthodoxy of Protestantism and Orthodox is more mystical as few doctrines but defends them more fiercely and more isationalist okay and Baptists are the Protestantism of Protestantism so it's it's like uh you know there's quite a handshake between each of these denominations in terms of the doctrines in terms of the framework which the the Catholic uh denomination and structured and and it goes on it moves on okay and the charismatic and satiationist views that we see amongst the denominations in particularly the charismatic view is what is very popular with within the Catholic denominations the praise and the adoration compared to what used to be their order of service in the earlier days and the satiationist views discusses on the perspective that you know certain spiritual gifts cease after the apostolic age or it adds cease after the apostolic age emphasizing that the sufficiency of scripture and traditional worship practices okay and respect to the denominational management and beliefs about revival okay each denomination accepts revival in a certain way they don't accept revival as uh uh all the you know all the same so in my research I've discussed on how the Catholics and the Protestants the Pentecostals view the revival emphasizing the renewable movements spiritual awakening and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit respectively for instance the Pentecostals they believe uh you know in mass gatherings uh and you know people who prepare their hearts you know and and uh pray and wait for the outpour of the Holy Spirit whereas uh you know the Catholics and the Protestants believe in a different way the Catholics believe uh in sorry the Protestants believes in more of scriptural doctrines and spreading the word of God as part of revival and whereas the Catholics you have about half a minute London sorry okay so uh so finally the barriers that we have is you know the mix of uh the Christian denominations that we have and what could be done in order to bring in unison there are several scriptural verses which supports them but uh you know the primary of it or the core of it is all we are one body in Christ though we are many we are one body in Christ so if you will understand that and accept God the Father Son and the Holy Spirit the three of God that we worship in I think we all can come in unity forgive the the differences that we have across denominations and accept which and every individual has one created by God and what that are created to be to worship God and to you know wait in His presence and receive the revival that's it thank you all great thank you so um yeah a couple of questions one is uh you know um like we see that um like certain denominations like you pointed out they are cessationists and um they don't even believe in the you know in the works of the Holy Spirit in the so so if uh you know have there been instances of um any denomination which has not been actively seeking or pursuing revival but there's been a sovereign move of God in the outpouring of the Holy Spirit uh in your study did you come up with any such denomination and how did that happen okay well uh there have been instances in the past talking about the early 17th century where it was the Methodist Church uh you know formed by John Wesley which which was actually thereafter but you know even before you know there was this uh you know outpour of the Holy Spirit and thereafter we named it as Methodist revival but even before it they were just waiting for you know the God's outpouring so I don't see the outpouring specific to the denominations and I think everyone in these days supports you know the the downpour of the Holy Spirit and everyone awaits the revival but I don't think that's denomination specific and it's just that you know they they name it differently they see it differently but uh if if I need this denomination that I've not recognized it but you know they've experienced the revival I'm not sure I did not I know uh see that in my research now okay now um so about the um the the barriers so could you just recount if you look at the current church in the present church the way um things are um and I'm just particularly you know if you look at India so what do you think um would be a barrier that is common across denominations um for revival for a visitation um in my perspective the way uh a Christian believer of a certain denomination look at another denomination a believer of another denomination see the the primary reason why I chose this research topic is because uh you know there might be you know a plethora of gods and other religions but if there's going to be a worship in a certain temple every uh people belonging to that region or in and around that region uh belonging to that particular uh religion now they gather together to worship the god worship their god or gods goddess whereas when it comes to Christianity when there's going to be a crusade when there's going to be a special meeting arranged uh and and we we share tracks we we communicate about the the the meetings that's been arranged the first question we ask this who's coming to share the word of god which denomination they do they belong to so there's always going to be okay the Christians looking at uh another denomination and what are they going to preach uh will they going to dilute our uh doctrine or will they going to eat us hard criticize and so on so the understanding or the way people look at other denomination the way people gauge other doctrines and theology needs to be changed and then uh you know look at look at individual as individual although you know the doctrines the theologies are the base that needs to be updated over a period of time i think you know that that needs to be uh you know updated as well so that the wider audience will also acknowledge it that will remove the barrier i think okay okay but also one needs to be um discerning that whatever one is sharing is based in the word led by the spirit and uh right so one can't compromise on that absolutely absolutely but that's based on individual but i'm talking from a denomination standpoint people who believe that you know it's it's what they're faster it's what the pope says that's the final word so in that case i think from a structural point of view there needs to be a change more than the individual point of view i think from an individual point of view i think the holy spirit works within and i know and you know corrects the ways but from a denomination standpoint for everyone to come together the primary concern here is you know you might have seen or experienced or heard about it when it comes to an ecumenical service when it comes to uh you know uh bringing together you know all the churches in a particular locality people are insecure people are offended people do not want to you know come together because of the diverse denomination theologies or structures that they follow so you know i i think the root cause is this okay the doctrines and the scriptures and the the hierarchical order which they follow i think that the kind of the managements of the denominations these people will have to understand the scripture more and they should you know come together with whatever i mean by by removing what that you know keeps them apart right okay and then thank you so much thank you for that okay so we have uh john paul john please go ahead uh audio is fine yeah fine fine loud and loud and clear yes so i'm just sharing the screen it says coming yes sure is the presentation visible yeah it's just coming up um yes it is that's passed i'm ready you're ready to start okay your time starts now okay good morning everyone um the research topic that i want to present this morning is navigating the minister's kid identity challenges and coping strategies in a ministry families from india uh so the kingdom of god consists of families and one of the main constituent is a pastor's family or a minister's family uh but it's when it comes to the children of the family it is of but most important that we take care of them um and often what we see is the children from a minister's family subjected to heightened expectations scrutiny and unique challenges their difficulties are often overlooked and neglected and that is the main reason why we want to address that so the main objectives of this study was to have an idea about the challenges faced by minister's children and also look at the coping strategies also to provide some suggestions for the minister's families and to the church at large from the output that we get we've referred to a couple of books written by several authors including pastrashish and kodafona the main methodology used for the study was to have a prepared a google form survey and sent out to a lot of people uh it then consists of 40 questions categorized into four subsections we will talk about this later in the cell section um and while sending out this through social media channels um the anonymity and confidentiality were ensured we did not collect any email address or any sort of information kept it very anonymous so that they feel free to give their thoughts uh 49 responses were collected and the analysis was done by microsoft excel uh so coming to the results and discussions we have about similar number of percentages for male and female who answered the survey uh 53 percentage of the respondents were uh less than 28 including um gen c sorry gen c and gen x and we also had some respondents uh from age of uh about 59 as well uh majorly 67 percentage of the respondents were brought up in a family who were pastoring a local church full time but we also had people who uh were itinerant ministers worship leaders youth ministers um operation mobilization different private organization who serve the lord in that capacity so first section of the survey included the family background and ministry impact interestingly uh around 76 percentage of the respondents were very satisfied on being identified as ministers chaikid um and 27 percentage of the respondents faced bullying at a school or college due to their parents involvement in ministry maybe because of that the next question is also connected to it uh they have thought that my parents could have pursued a different profession um then uh this is one interesting observation uh we had there was 59 percentage of the respondents rarely or never had family vacations okay um there have been instances uh 51 percentage of the respondents mentioned that there have been instances where they wanted to express to my to their parents that church is prioritized more than them and that created a lot of uh that would have created a lot of uh burden over their heart uh in relationship with uh their family um and 67 percentage of the respondents experienced a lot of burden with regard to the expectation from people or congregation 69 percentage of the respondents had to turn down personal choices because parents were engaged in ministry and interestingly 57 percentage of the respondents is a very good number large number they decided at some quality time they wanted some quality time with their parents who were involved in ministry maybe because of the busy schedules in the ministry they were not able to spend time with the children but that was really expected from the children standpoint uh most of the uh ministers children experienced or received a positive affirmation from parents and both parents were actively involved in nurturing them in godly ways the second section included involvement in ministry and again this was also a surprise 94 percentage um of respondents um were very grateful that they were blessed with a lot of opportunities to serve um uh in in the church because being a minister's child or pastor's child um and 86 percentage this is very surprising this was very surprising for me personally 86 percentage uh of the respondents are currently involved in ministry but this also points out one limitation of the study even though we sent out to many people the response uh the 49 responses we have among their 86 percentage are currently in ministry so all the uh uh all the responses that we have is uh you know from that perspective who are being in ministry but the hardships or the difficulties challenges they went through okay um if you look at the fourth graph here you would see that 60 uh uh 35 percentage 35 percentage of the 49 responses they experienced a sense of obligation that they did not have any choice to refrain from serving growing up being a minister's child um and also this is another interesting observation um 41 percentage uh was saying that we were overwhelmed with burnout um due to the demands of the ministry and this is important for us to see because you know sometimes being a pastor's child they are expected to do something and because of the overwhelming expectation from the people they begin to do and it eventually results in certain burnout and being overwhelmed i'm skipping to the next one um uh they uh most of the respondents received uh guidance uh from their parents regarding their live calling but a majority of them if you watch very closely uh near to 20 percentage of the 49 responses they are still not sure about the live calling um and uh the remaining of them you know found out by themselves right so number three the third section of the category was the relationships and um 27 percentage of the respondents did not see uh an affectionate gesture between parents um and there was so much in a burden that 86 percentage mentioned that any misstep they would have made would have influenced how others see their parents and this is another interesting observation the fourth graph which you see here um 57 percentage of the responses where like they could not they did not get an opportunity to engage an open conversation regarding sex and sexuality with parents and uh most of the other observations were very true to the expectation so i will skip to uh one of the interesting observation 60 29 percentage only 29 percentage said that they did not see the remaining 69 percentage uh of the responses where that they saw they have been seeing parents arguing in front of them it would have really impacted their childhood and growing up right um and uh they also longed 65 percentage of the respondents longed for uh uh someone outside the family to support them or to uh share their thoughts as well um i will skip a couple of uh slides just to um you know i've included everything in the slides but i'm skipping few not because of the time constraints uh similar to the sex and sexuality topic we discussed uh 67 percentage of the people did not have uh and freedom to discuss about infactuation or relationships as they were growing up now some recommendations and uh this would really help the church at large to promote open communication that pastors family can have in their family to open up space for people to talk um to facilitate career discussion they kept one minute more yeah um facilitate career discussions that they have the freedom to choose um according to their desire and to have a ministry balance between family and ministry and to have healthy boundaries not allowing uh so much of church to creep inside the family um and uh encourage people to explore other venues other uh vocations uh and even during relocation provide stability to have a emotional support uh for them respect privacy and boundaries children are children and they have privacy and it needs to be protected and to promote emotional well-being strategize their finances keep family time free from church so in conclusion it is evident that there is a need of greater awareness and support for the unique needs of minister's children including the provision of guidance emotional support and opportunities for personal growth and faith in jesus we have to create a culture of understanding for our children and this is very much needed in the days to come i'll conclude with that thank you thank you john um case uh some questions there you could answer that but i just wanted to ask so in your in your studies um in your research um now did you come across um like you did mention that uh families were i mean it's it's very most of most of it is very encouraging to see that okay um but i just wanted to know like are their kids fastest kids um what was the impression would they want to continue in the steps of their parents or would they definitely want to you know take up an alternative career and not consider ministry as an option yeah that was one of the questions uh the question was have you considered pursuing ministry or have you considered taking another profession and that was a main majority um i currently i forget the number but that was a main majority that they did not want to uh you know follow their fathers or mothers they but eventually when we see the other responses we come to know that god eventually put them back in and their ministry so they were not very encouraged by how the parents were living but eventually they had hard to serve and when we mentioned that question are you currently serving in any area not necessarily front line are you serving in any area you know serving in any capacity there that the answer is very uh high and which is really encouraging like they have that taken that step to follow and also one more observation we had was um the foundations the godly foundations were taught by both their parents but when it comes to life calling not so much of percentage we can see the the the response which we got was they figured it out by themselves or um you know maybe god would have intervened in their life in a very special way in the latest stage and they found their let's call it so there is a there's a gap between what a parent can do and the child is learning but of course there's an influence a parent had which really helped the child to grow a lot right and also another question is um you know this whole thing of open home policy you know like um i think you grew up like that so uh you know how healthy is it for like considering all this you know in your research do you think an open home kind of an environment where people from church people in need can just walk in anytime do you think um that's a healthy environment for a child considering that most of them don't want to pursue you know ministry as an option how healthy is it and what is the what is the solution yeah so i i don't think it is a very healthy practice and we should not um this is my personal perspective you know being as a pastor child but i have personally observed in my life and also from the friends which i have had and this is the observation that i would make uh opening a home for people to come anytime is not a healthy practice considering the privacy of the children one of the questions that we had in the Christian Air was um have you thought that your privacy was overlooked we have considered and the answer was no i mean they were uh they did not have their privacy and especially when it comes to Indian culture uh because everyone expects pastor to open up their homes um and to make that choice is also difficult but the suggestion or the solution which we can do is we can uh if somebody says that i want to come i want to talk at your home we can direct them to a different place maybe church maybe church office or i mean a cafe uh to meet the pastor to meet with the individual in a different setting than bringing them to home unless it is a very um very friendly or very family friendly kind of an atmosphere but to have opening a home for everyone and and everyone is not a healthy practice all right so i think you can answer jeffina's question uh she's put it on the chat um um step by each other could make you consider yeah solution that's a good question and uh and and i think this would be definitely a part of that child's journey uh because the expectation from congregation we cannot uh we cannot dictate the congregation but what we can do is we can set an expectation right from the pastor's perspective like just because my child is a pastor's child or a minister's child you cannot expect him or her to serve every day or that kind of a perspective we can set as as ministers up front and the moment uh we set that expectation right they will not be children will not be under the burden uh that okay it is okay if i can make mistake because i'm also a human being and any such kind of mistake happen um you know this this happened in my personal life as well when um something happened in my life my dad stepped up and said he is also a child he's also a son he also makes mistakes and this is uh you know this is where a child get a formation when the pastor stands for the child um so these things pastors can do or ministers can do to protect the child considering that the child is of uh much more important when it comes to his personal life this is the primary ministry that God has given than the church so we have to protect our children we have to protect our family right thank you john thank you so much and um yeah i just want to um inform everyone like if you want to you know put your presentation your ppt you can put in the stream you can share it in the stream so the others can also other students can also you know go through them and learn from that so please feel um you're free to do that you're welcome to do that right okay so um so with that we come to the end of our course and uh it feels like one as if one curtain has come down you know it's like a farewell kind of thing but uh i know a few people did not present like anita who had actually given the topic and also i think liya lama um so i mean they can reach out to me personally so we won't have any more sessions of our rp so i just want to thank you all and to wish you all the very best god bless you guys and uh you know consider pursuing the research you know whatever you've done consider building on it consider working on it and maybe you know you can release it even as a as a book or you know as part of a chapter in the book that you might be writing right so i just want to encourage you to do that so god bless you all the very best thank you so much bye bye thank you thank you first