 All right. Hi everybody. Today is March 10th. This is the Jenkins Advocacy and Outreach SIG. On the agenda for today we have reviewed this site. Remove Jenkins is the way on the, well actually sorry. Remove Jenkins is the way Jumbotron on the Jumbotron. And then discuss about Jenkins is the way hosting, update, GSOC, and CDCon 2022. On the Jenkins is the way site hosting, could we put, or on the Jumbotron topic, could we put a subtopic there? Adding CDCon to the Jumbotron. Or actually CDCon plus contributor summit to the Jumbotron and adding Jenkins awards or maybe we should have a separate topic for Jenkins awards that I can bring so that, so that you're aware of it. I've got the action item today to do some things on it. So maybe on the right here. Oh, you've got it. Good. Yes. So perfect. So long as we talk about it there. That's great. Elissa, thanks. Okay. All right. So add CDCon to the Jumbotron. Oh, and contributor summit. And you're okay if I do some typing while you're typing as well in that, in those meeting notes, right, Elissa. Yes, please. All right. So this first item, I think the last time we talked that you're going to do a poll. Yeah, okay. The update is I made the poll request and it has been updated. What we just need to make a note of. I removed the sections that were not relevant anymore. So that means that if we do these projects again, we'll have to go in the gitz history to find the information back. So for me this action item is closed. I had a, I had an open question there mentally for me is we tend to use historical pages and other places would it be okay if we use the historical page here do either of you object to the concept of a historical page to record old outreach programs we ran and have completed. No, I think it's it's a very good idea. Okay. All right, so no objections to that. Great. No, I think. Do I start it? Well, yeah. Yeah, if you don't mind creating it that's great if you can't for now or, or have other things it could wait it's just, I've liked historical pages as a way but then you have to think about how do you navigate the page and where does it sit in the, in the structure, and there are several different ways that the site does it right now so it's, it's not a perfect g everybody always does it this way on the john jenkins.io site. I'll write it as an action item for me and will come with a proposal for that. That's a good idea. Didn't think about it. Removing is easier. Okay, thank you john mark. All right, so we talked about removing Jenkins is the way on the jambotron. And so we want to replace that with CD con and the contributor summit. Yeah. Yeah, so I got approval from the governance board yesterday and board meeting that we're approved to put a jambotron entry for CD con. The big suggestion was we ought to make it a combined single entry that is CD con plus the Jenkins contributor summit, and then we will fill in the blanks for the details of the contributor summit as time goes forward. But it's it's much more interesting for a Jenkins user they don't just care about CD con, we want them to care that it's CD con and a contributor summit. So I like I liked his argument I thought it was a very good, good approach. I had this as an action item I was not able to do that to discover how this jambotron works, and how to adapt that so if, if you can just give me a hint. What is the page to look for or, or, and then I can start looking john mark if you'd be okay what if you and I just plan to pair on it, because that way we do it together. We can explore it together and when you have questions we can talk about the questions that way. There's a bed if we pair there's a better chance I'll actually do it. So big win for me. And, and, and you'll you'll have the experience as well. Maybe we set a target to spend some time tomorrow on it. Tomorrow, your morning. Yeah. Right yeah your afternoon my morning just because it's, I think it's probably a good 30 minute exercise for the two of us to pair together to do it. And, and it'll introduce you to the jambotron and be sure that I get it done. Yeah. Okay, I'll send an invite if you don't mind. That'd be great. Okay. All right. Next item Jenkins is the way hosting and URL update mark. Yeah, do you have an update for this yet. Yes so so yesterday in governance board this is another good positive outcome of governance. I had a discussion with Gavin Morgan, he's comfortable that infra has approved the proposed URL for Jenkins is the way that Jenkins.io, and they've approved that would be hosted by Netlify, and Gavin already knows how to do that. And Gavin is comfortable that he can likely get it done before the end of March. Yeah, it's an open source project so there's no promise of anything for delivery timelines, but the way he was describing it it sounded very doable for him. He's already done most of the work and he's even using this as a way to explore a slightly different approach. So his initial approach was converted all the ASCII doc. What he found is that ASCII doc while it's very nice for a documentation person who spends a lot of time writing documentation. It's not as familiar to programmers as markdown is. And so he's found a markdown technique that that may let us generate the site in a very simple and elegant way similar to how he does plugins dot Jenkins.io, but let people submit their Jenkins is the way stories as markdown instead of ASCII doc. So their programmer experiences, oh I use markdown all the time. And they don't use ASCII doc and so they have to always go read how do you write correct ASCII doc whereas markdown is sort of the natural expression for most people in Jenkins pull requests or in pull requests and GitHub. So I think he's got the right approach and we're on track to to have that thing ready, removing it from the jumbotron is good step one, and he'll he'll then put it on this other location, and Alyssa will probably need to do some have the help with some DNS manipulations in order to to redirect from the URL that you've purchased Jenkins is the way that I owe to Jenkins is the way dot Jenkins dot I owe. Okay. And we probably want to get that purchase of the Jenkins is the way dot I owe site, somehow eventually funded by by Jenkins. For right now I think it probably is just donating and and that's that's great but there's no reason we can't long term get the Jenkins project to cover it. Okay, that'll be great. John Mark and Alyssa does that seem okay to you what I've described so far. Yes. Yeah, I think sounds great. Only in fraud is going to reach out to Alyssa. What does Alyssa need to at this point there's nothing for Alyssa to do at all. When we when we get to the point where Gavin has the new site up and running, then, then I suspect then it will be they'll contact Alyssa or coordinate with her as to how do we do this next step because effectively what we're doing is taking the control of the Jenkins is the way dot I owe URL at that or DNS entry at that point and redirecting it to one that's explicitly under Jenkins dot I owe. Yep. Okay. Do you have something else John Mark. Nope. Okay. So Jesus 2022 is our application was accepted. Our doors week is being weekly and they're going very well. I think as we do more of these we get more engagement more activity so people are getting a feel for four of it. We still need more mentors and more project ideas and we, yes, there's new mentors are slowly coming in, but nonetheless we are very grateful. Thank you for your question where because I'm working on. Well, in the last advocacy and outreach said we talked about creating in a T shirt for mentors. I did reach out to Jake and and these willing to help out. But we need a high res image of the butler and the flag and I looked up on the artwork page, I couldn't find that image do you know where I can find that mark. I don't, but let me look because if it's, if it's not already SVG, it may be complicated to get it to be very high res. Let's see, so she saw. I'll, I'll look, I'll look it up while we're in the meeting here Alyssa and try to give you a pointer to it see what we've got. All right. So, is there anything else that you want to add for Jesus. Yes, some, some housekeeping information. First, I'm currently pushing a PR to update a couple of links on the main gsoc page, linking the Jenkins online meet up meet up discussing so the end of February one. One is now linked or will be linked on the main page. I linked also the org page on the Google summer of code site and made the third modification that I don't remember. So this some site cleanup. Then reading around. I have a couple of action points or doubts. The first one is in the latest newsletter or information that Google send us. I said that normally, we should have a mixture of large and small projects, while we have only small projects. So I need to research that. And is it effectively written on the rules that we need a mixture, because I'm personally happy with with small ones. Yeah, and in fact, I'm not, I'm not ready to subscribe to do do large projects right now just because of the impact on on the contributors and the mentors both right large projects, large projects are heavier weight in the same time right it's it's really expecting those contributors to be full time working on Google summer of code. It's the length of the time where they can work is different so they can work up to end September. Oh, so they get an extra several months. Yes. So they start mid June, and large project can go up to, and there is a procedure to request to go over in elapsed for for reason but I need to dig into that I made an action to item here for me. Then it seems that during this period coming days weeks. We should start to invite the. So it's the org admins that need to do to do that is to invite the mentors to register on the Google. On the Google site. Yeah. And the last action point. So, just to be sure, Alyssa, are you looking for for this invitation or while I'm browsing in the. I have I have that email as well so. Yeah, so I'll go through I will go through that list that I think you're talking about Google, Google's email. Yeah, that's correct. Eventually, well, I'll see how how my my day tomorrow works but anyway we discussed tomorrow, tomorrow your morning and we catch up. See what is left. And the last point I sent out a mail a couple of minutes ago just to be sure that the org admins summer holidays. We don't have gaps there that all three of us are in a holiday on the on the same same period. Yeah. So, I'm going to see so just that we list and see do we have a problem or we don't have a problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You me and Chris will sync up and set up some kind of schedule. He's doing a lot of heavy lifting. He helps lots in in managing. He's great in taking notes while I talk or try to follow the conversation so he's a great addition. Yes, agree. So that's all housekeeping items I had regarding Jesus. Okay, thank you john mark. The link to that the best image I've got is in the Jenkins social media document so see the social media slide so see slide 66 of social media coverage. I'll just put it into the into the notes here so that Jake can go get that the deck is publicly oops, the Jake, the deck is publicly readable. So he should be able to just copy from there. Now, that may still not be high enough resolution for him that I don't know I'm never, never quite sure my it looks great on my screen but it may still be far too grainy for a good moment. Okay, so thank you was asking for like SVG. Right, that would be the ideal and I don't have an SVG, although creating that as SVG might not be a not not might not be terribly difficult for someone who actually is good at creating SVGs we have, we have the butler as SVG. What we don't have I think is the flag portion. Yeah, and I think that that will be easy to create someone who's a designer. But when people say that and I think about how impossible it is for me to create an SVG so that's great. Oh, they have the tools for it. I'm sure they can do it. Maybe some parts can be grabbed from the Google site. All right, moving on to CD cons so we are still planning the in person contributor summit. Did you want to add anything else to that mark. No, we've got we've got to get the planning started we do have I like the idea that Oleg had given it governor governance board of bundling it into the Jenkins jumbotron with a link to the contributor summit page on Jenkins.io so that we get that planning started, but the nothing more to say beyond that. Yep, we need to plan it and we're going to plan it we're going to have some good fun with it. I did know he won't be able to be a 10 to attend physically. You can imagine that for a Russian citizen to get a visa into the United States right now may not be as easy as. Yeah, yeah, understood. The first nomination is open. Nomination will close on March 29. As discussed with Mark yesterday I would like to nominate Chris Stern for the most valuable advocate award. Yeah, so so that nomination progress process is is public. And by being public that's an interesting challenge I've got several people I'm going to nominate and I think it's a lot of fun to submit nominations because I do a much better job of writing my nomination when I know other people are going to read it and it's publicly visible. So Jean Mark maybe you and I we can team up on this one if you if you agree with me. Yeah, on the nomination. Okay. Hi. A question towards Mark I'm not familiar with the contributor summit. There's something I can help or should help to prepare it. I plan to organize a meeting with Bruno in the coming days. And so but I'm ready to help and if necessary, I'm ready also to join. Thank you there so. The current plan the current idea is that we'll do a contributor summit in June at CD con. It'll be in person and then we'll do a contributor summit in September at DevOps world. And again that will be in person. Now we may also want to do one additional contributor summit which would be an online contributor summit. We'll do online contributor summits and had had reasonably good responses 20 plus people at each good involvement from the participants. So I'll certainly keep you copied on on what what's happening there and how it's evolving. What we'll do John Marcus will start with a Google Doc, it'll be a shared Google Doc proposing agenda topics. And then we enlist help from the community on which topic should be should be on the list and which shouldn't now to further support that. Oleg mentioned yesterday in governance board that he's got a draft proposal to talk about Jenkins roadmap for 2022 at CD con, but since he physically cannot attend at CD con. He offered that I would could would be willing to be voice on that or that Alyssa and I could be voice on it. And, and so he was both open and ready for that he thought oh yeah that's great because he won't be in Austin, but Alyssa and I will be in Austin in June. Mark, do you think Bruno will be joining us. Is that too soon. I don't think he'll be in Austin in in June. So, so I would I told him to be ready and he's not against it. Okay, good yeah I've I've got to I've got to do some checking to see my hunch is it may be premature to bring him in but let me let me give some more thought to that it's a good question. I asked him to get travel ready. So very check his passport. And so normally for for us it's just requesting in the ester, which is just so that but I'm going to check how he feels in his exploration. Great. I'll update the notes here with what we discussed about and then I'll send out the recording and the minutes on the community page. Good. Thank you. Well done. Thanks. Bye bye.