 Sorry. No, you're fine. That's Ted. Hi, I'm Ty. Robin. Robin. Nice to meet you, Robin. So like I said, got a hobby. I got a five-minute timer. If you want to talk more than that, that's totally cool. Okay. But the whole goal is just to show that any two people, regardless of whatever they look like, can have a conversation with each other. Yeah, totally. It's something I believe in. It's something I want to show that people can do too. Like, I think you can talk to anyone about anything. Normally, the conversations that I have are really interesting when it's about something that you're really motivated about. I phrase it like something you know you can't be wrong or something that you know is really, really true. Like something you're really kind of expert about in a sense. Yeah, if you want to say that. But something you think other people should follow as well. Or if you have like, I'll give you an example. The previous stocks that I had was Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie. It's very passionate about that. Nusha couldn't be wrong. There was a lady here who wanted to talk about gardening and we just talked about gardening for a while. It was really cool. Then a lady who saw her kid, she kept referring to her kids as kids, even though they're like, my 32-year-old, my 20-year-old. So I asked her like, how old would they need to be before you stop seeing those kids? She's like, oh well, that's a good question. I don't know. I kind of, I risked, they'll always be my babies, but this is what they would need to do for me to like, consider them as like adults. Move out. Real beings that aren't mine. Yeah, that I don't pay rent for and like feed and all that stuff. I've had talks really about anything, but anything that really moves you, anything that really motivates you. So if it's like work, you can talk about that if you want to. Anything's really on topic. Probably just health in general. I've always felt as though that health is probably, I think health as well. I like health. I think we agree everybody wants to stay alive, right? Yeah, and while you're alive, I think living your best life is an important thing. I think in our society today, prioritizations are, you know, everyone has their own priorities, but what we really want, some people may not even, and this may be a little paternalistic, but some people may not even realize that that's what they want because they've never felt healthy. They don't know. Oh, this is interesting. You know what I mean? I think I understand what you mean. Can you talk about that? Because I feel like I'm almost there. I feel like I see the boat and I'm like, well, like, I feel like just in kind of a broader sense of health, like, I guess health can come, I don't know, different meanings, you know, you've got like physical health, mental health, emotional health, just stability, yeah, financial health. Yeah, there's a lot of different terms for health. But I guess things, health in terms of physical health because I'm doing public health. So it kind of matters to me and those are things that I can help change. Okay. But I think, I don't know, personally, no matter what I have going on, I try to, I try to always put that first, if I can, because I know if I'm not, you know, if I don't sleep eight hours a night, seven hours a night. Anytime you want to walk away. So I don't want those people like, yeah, I didn't mean to interrupt you, sorry about that. No, you're good. But I'm looking at the doggies. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so taking care of ourselves is an important thing. And it's super complex, but it is living your best life. Yeah. How would you qualify best? Well, I think what we're what you're talking about today, communication is part of health too. I think so as well. I don't know if we're really good at communication. I think we're afraid to start it. I think that's what the issue is. Yeah, because they're a fear of, oh, what if my friend is upset about what I'm trying to bring to the table and talk about or whatever. Or like, what if someone doesn't want to talk to me or something like that? Like if some people are afraid to just do that first step to show that it's easy, that's how I feel. And that's why I'm starting something like this, just to show like, yeah, you can do it with anybody. You don't need the cameras, you don't need the mics. You could just be like, hey, you want to talk for a quick sec? It's easier to start it. Yeah, and that's part of health too. I agree. You don't have social, I mean, they talk about like the research with loneliness and how that affects your health and you know, quality of life years while you're here. And loneliness can lead to depression, it can lead to a lot of other things, which can lead to like poor behaviors, you know, like sitting inside for hours of time, you know what I mean? Not getting out and if someone was sitting inside, there's like a guy, there's a guy on YouTube who's called, his channel is called Sitting and Smiling. Have you ever heard of that before? No. So he literally sits in his house and four hours each day uploads a four hour video to YouTube of him sitting and smiling into a camera. Smiling. This is how extreme it's been. He's done it for at least a year now in a row. Yeah. One episode he actually peed himself. Oh gosh. Because yeah, he only does four hours every day sitting, smiling. One episode. Exactly. Yeah. A guy was robbing his house in one. Like a guy literally was like came into his home, starts stealing his stuff, opens up the room that he's in. He's like, oh, closes the door and he just sits and smiles through the whole thing too. That was like the two most incredible things that happened. Everything other videos just him sitting and smiling. So maybe that robber knew that he was going to be there for four hours. I think the robber thought the house was empty and it was just like, I'm going to check this room and see if there's anything cool here. Take, oh, there's a person over there. Just walk out. Oh my gosh. Take some stuff with me. Yeah. You even got set up? I think it's real. The video. Really? The guy's legit. The guy's legit. Like what is it? Endurance theater? Like endurance. He's like an artist. He's doing it for like the art of it. Do you think a guy like that who's sitting at home hours a day by himself is living his best life? He might be, I guess, his perspective too. Okay. So that's just my opinion about just kind of where I come from in terms of health. But then again, we're all different. We all have different experiences and what makes us happy and what we consider important in living. Is there a way to objectively live to your best life? I think if you can, you know, if you can look inside, if you can kind of like look at your life and think about what truly makes you happy and if you're not happy, wherever you are, whoever you are, whenever, and you can honestly tell yourself like, oh, I need to do this or I need to do that and actually do it. I think that's when you're living your best life. You're working towards that goal. It's like if like adopting animals that makes you happy, that's a good way to live your best life. Yeah. Even though it may not be good for someone else, it's good for you. If what you did to make yourself live a best life caused harm to other people, is that still one person living their best life subjectively in their mind? Actually, that's kind of a controversial. It's almost like what I think about with public health is I think of smoking, which I don't agree with. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So if someone, they like that, it makes them happy, makes them feel good momentarily. Sure. But that's my air too. So that's kind of an issue in terms of, you know what I mean? Yeah. What about vaping? It's infringing upon someone else's health. What if it was like vaping? Oh, pancakes. Only because we don't know yet. We don't know and the research isn't out yet. And what I've heard with the vaping, I don't know that much about it yet, but they say popcorn lung. What? Popcorn lung is potentially a popcorn lung. Are you saying popcorn lung? Popcorn lung, yeah. Popcorn lung? Yeah. It's what, so I, and I may be mis-speaking on this. You're teaching me so much stuff today. I may be mis-speaking on this, but one of my professors, he is like the world leader, leader on, he's a, he's no longer teaching at UK, but he's a pulmonologist. Okay. He used to work in our environmental health department. And so he does all of the research on COPD, smoking. Okay. COPD. Pulmonary disorder. Okay. So people, it's cause probably smoking and other things can exacerbate it. Like air pollution if you live in like air pollute city, secondhand smoke. How does it relate to popcorn? So he's all about the lungs. He's a pulmonologist. So he talked to us one time about that, because we're talking about vaping as a risk reduction strategy for smoking. Sure. And so in my head, I'm just like, it's just an alternative. It's like with the drug epidemic, like methadone clinics and Suboxone for heroin. It's just a substitute. I think it's, well, yeah, I hear what you're saying. I think it's like, you can point out one thing and be like, that's poison. Yeah. Here's this other thing. We don't know if it's poison yet. I guess it's the better of the two. You know it's not poison. Well, you know the other alternative is poison. So it's basically like gambling. Yeah. Yeah. But in my mind, I'm like, you know what? Just suck it up. I can't say that though. You can see it. Just suck it up. You don't just put a bandaid on the, on the issue and roll along with your bandaid. Take the bandaid off and let it heal. Fix it somehow. You know, replace it with something exercise, something that reduces stress. You know, a lot of people go into smoking though, find it comforting and gives it themselves control in a situation where they feel like they don't have a lot of control. Plus the addictive stuff that's in it. There's a direct biochemical need to continue to do it. When you don't have it, it just adds more to your stress. Right. It's a wicked loop to be in. States. Yeah. So a person who's smoking, they're not living the best life. Is that what we would say? Well, maybe their own, but I don't think that it's, um, I don't think that it's maybe ethically right, unless you're ethically right, because you're polluting the air for other people. Yeah. Cause like what if I have my, what if I had a baby one day? Okay. And babies have a lower threshold of, you know, what affects them, you know, more than I do about that sort of stuff. My babies? No, no. I'm just saying in general, like children and babies, they have a lower threshold and what can affect them, you know, sort of developing. Smaller body mass too. Yeah. And everything can affect their development. And so like what if I'm just like rolling down the arboretum and I have a child one day who's a newborn, I probably wouldn't bring a newborn here, but I would say like six months. And then someone just decides to like smoke along the trail in front of us. And then the baby is breezing in the air, you know. So you're saying that smoking is unethical. I'm wondering if they found a way to make cigarettes had not have harmful emissions. Would that improve the situation? Yeah, I would say so. As long as it doesn't imprint on someone else's right. So basically don't breathe out poison into the air that everybody else is doing. That's the unethical part. Like you can smoke, but only inhale. Absolutely. Just take it all in. Well, and I think what it comes to like living your best life. I guess public health is all about just, you know, really just about like health behavior. And I don't know. Well, it's kind of a broad field. It's hard to explain. Okay, what do you have? So it's all about, let's see, how do I, how do I phrase it in a nutshell? It's just like the science preventing disease, improving health and populations on all levels. Okay. So on every level. On every level. So I mean, the environment is part of it. Individual health. Okay. That's just part of the population's health. I get it. Through policy change, we do that. I get it. So from your perspective, you're seeing the impact of like cigarette smoke on the, on a grander scale than I am. I see it. I'm like, oh, that's, it gets diluted. But like you're seeing us like, no, here's the meta pattern type. Yeah. This is why it's an issue. Right. Right. Okay. And also because if you think about it, like, I'm not just smoking, but all sorts of negative, all sorts of unhealthy behaviors. And then it's like, it's hard, it's hard to, public health is a hard thing to change and alter because human behavior is difficult to influence. Are we seeing an upwards trend in public health, though? Overall, like we have better access to medicine now than we did a hundred years ago. Yeah. Our technologies improving. Yeah. Access to food is better. Yeah. Well, that's also controversial. True. But we have food. Like before we didn't have any food. That's true. We're going to be a famine and now we have food. Yeah. What's the controversy? Bad food? Well, just in my eyes, because even people in public health may not, may not see it like this, but just in our, oh, yeah, they do. Just in our country, like big USA companies. Yeah. It's very consumer driven society. And if you look at, they say children now, this is the first generation, these kids now that will outlive their, or what is it? What was the phrase? Basically, children are starting out on a downward trend with their health because of what they're consuming now today. Since they're babies? Yeah. Really? Because more kids now than ever have childhood obesity. How foods are produced in our country today on such a mass, like there's so much. They make food sweeter and sweeter and sweeter and kids are getting more and more of it. And the parents are being educated with regard to how to properly feed kids. Yeah. And they're just, I mean, not everyone, that's, you know, general. But the trend is like more and more kids are falling back behind and they don't have place to play. Yeah. Yeah. It's a more dangerous world because of like all, and I don't know if we've just seen that a lot now, but like all the, like just the gun issues we've had in our country. Do you think it's actually, do you think it's actually more dangerous now than it was, like say, like 60 or 50 years ago, or is it just because we're more aware of the bad stuff that's out there? Maybe. Maybe a combination of it. And I think also with technology and just how visible everything is now, with like Facebook and social media, I think mental health issues have probably arisen. Sure. People are maybe less able to, I don't know, communicate with each other, children especially. People are less able to educate, communicate with each other now? I would say so. Kids. Now? Yeah. Kids? Well, because if you think about it in person. Good who Atlanta airport, I'm sorry, I don't know what the airport is around here, but like I keep going, one of the airports I keep frequency is one at ATL. And you will see one year olds to like babies with their phones and iPads. And they're like, what are they doing? They're like checking their stocks or something. They're like, they're texting each other. Like he doesn't, he doesn't know how to spell great, but he's like typing up stuff and messenger for his other friend in like kindergarten. Like how, how did I miss that? Like that's insane. Well, maybe, maybe let me rephrase this. I would say like conversations like this, because everything is so online. And I don't know. Yeah, this is like a public chat room basically. You know what I mean? So I don't really know what they're thinking, but I feel as though people can't have real conversation. Kids don't have those skills, those soft skills that like, I don't know. The empathetic skills to have a communication with somebody, right? Talk with someone and not, you know, not have to text. Right. Text everything or. How could someone in that situation get better at like, I guess something like this? You think? Yeah, I think so. How would you encourage someone who's like in front of a computer who has like a thousand Facebook friends that they're chatting with at the same time that they might be missing something if they don't do stuff like this? That's not real. I mean, I don't think, I don't know. I guess communication is communication. I don't know how you do it, but I think you miss a lot when you can't communicate with someone like this because you can't see their like social cues. There's a lot more that you miss. Body language. Yeah, body language. Like you wouldn't, you wouldn't, I think about, I couldn't even text this fast, you know? So it's just like, I think that's, that's part of the problem too with, I don't know, the obesity epidemic is they're sitting inside all day. And I know that also side note, like I worked in ENT for two years, ear, nose and throat. Ear, no, you got a lot at UK. They say otolaryngology, which is the long word for it. Okay. And I worked for a neurotologist who did, actually, you mentioned your mom with her hearing. He was an otologist who did cochlear implant surgeries. Oh, my mom's got one of those. She's got two of them. That's amazing. I told you about my deaf mom, right? Yeah. Okay, so. It's by on a hearing now. Sweet. I'm sorry if that was a tangent, but like, she, we, surprisingly, her insurance took care of a lot of it, but like my sister and I helped, it is, my sister and I paid for both of it. And hers can turn off. They have little batteries on the back. Yeah. And so she takes them out like 24 seven. So like, we paid for it, but she doesn't use it because she doesn't like hearing. And I, first we were upset, but then we're like, that's kind of cool that you can turn off your ears because you're a grocery store. Right. Too much. I just don't want to deal with it right now. I was like, can you hear me? No, but I can talk to you. Like, I'll still, I see you talking to me and I will talk to you at the volume that I need to talk to, but I can't hear you. So just make sure if you need me, you're at my site and she just chill through the grocery store. I've seen her take them out while driving and just, I don't want to hear driving. I'm like, that's cool because now she doesn't have to hear driving. She doesn't have to hear whatever she doesn't want, select appearing literally. She lives next to a railroad track too. She's in Chattanooga, so it's just like, she can't hear it. You go to her place every single clock on the wall is constantly ticking. Grandfather clock bongs on the hour every hour. Totally chill. So her home, when we call her, she won't answer the phone and that makes that stress is outside a little bit. Yeah. She was just like, is she faced her some of the kitchen? And she just turned off her ears and we're like, don't do that. We paid for it. Yeah. I don't want to hear right now. You can't tell me when I need to hear. This is my body. I get that, but like for our benefit. Did she get them done down in Tennessee? No, she got them done in Georgia. Okay. And then she later on moved up to Tennessee and now that's where she's at right now. And we got her another phone that vibrates and has a light that turns on. That's perfect. That way, anywhere, well, at least as long as she's in the living room, it'll kind of like be like, oh, someone's calling me right now. We should have gone or a watch, but it'd be too technologically advanced. Oh, right, right. Yeah. Sometimes parents have a hard time with them. They're like, what is this crap? You know, I am sorry for that tangent. You said ENT, ears, nose, throat. Hey, how are you? Oh my God. Hi guys. What's up? How are you? Do you think, do you think that there's a way, a simple way to let people know, or at least be aware that their actions have consequences in other people, which affect their health? And it has deleterious effects if they don't take that responsibility seriously. And that this is the prescription. Like these are the list of rules that you should follow. Like if you have to make like three rules that everybody follows with regards to like improving public health, what will those rules look like? That's a difficult question. I feel like... Could you break it up into three rules or do you think it's like too complicated or do you think you can get kind of close with three rules? I don't know. That's a really hard question. I feel like I haven't talked about public health like this in a really long time just because everyone that's around me is in the same field. We're all just doing that kind of stuff. Maybe we can do it together. Sure. I'm thinking like my first rule typically is always don't be a jerk. Okay. Right, right. Yeah. Because like you shouldn't have to be forced to be nice to someone. You could be neutral if you need to. Like if you want a sick day you just want to chill in bed in front of Netflix or something like that. You should be able to do that. Right. But don't go out of your way to be a jerk to somebody. Yeah. Oh, that's a good rule actually. Yeah, I would say I would say I could be one. Okay. I think about it like the world is a happier place. I think the health would dramatically prove that just people weren't jerks to each other. What would be second? Let's see. I would say as I think of things and then I'm like that's not always. What are you thinking of? Like I don't know. I think ethically I think we should all like work towards like bettering ourselves and our health. Okay. Like setting goals for yourself that are health related. Everyone do their part you know in a sense. Bettering themselves? Yeah. I mean that's kind of has like a loaded kind of thoughts behind it in my head. Is someone didn't better themselves? But then I think of people that are in different situations than I am and it's not applicable. Like I think of like kind of hierarchy of needs and like what about people that are like struggling with like four kids or one job? Terminal cancer maybe? Yeah. I don't got time for that. I'm sorry. I feel like I'm bad at this kind of stuff because I can't really think of like kind of a I don't know. I'm wondering it seems more like you're just basically saying in general like don't be lazy. Yeah. Do something. Do something. Try. Just try. Try to improve like understanding of what can improve your own health. Try. Just try. Yeah. If you want to try to stay home and chill do that but try at it. Yeah. Like work at it regardless of whatever you do just put some effort into it. Try to do something. Yeah. Try to do something. I like that. Yeah. That's good. No. Ted. He's gonna get all dirty. Hey how are you sir? Hey. Number one don't be a jerk. Number two. Try to do something. I don't like that. All right we got a third one. Number three just know health as well. That's what I like that phrase because I think is well. Well I think of like in terms of like public health on a grander scale and I think of like what really matters in society. Just know it. Yeah. Just know it. But don't act on it. Well I mean you can act on it if you want to. Yeah. But if you're not forced to but just know you have to know it. Yeah. You have to know how. Because if you think about it like people that have like you know like that are super super wealthy in terms of material things maybe they have like tons of money in the bank but they don't have good relationships. They may have like chronic all sorts of chronic diseases. They don't feel good. What's the point of it all. I don't know. You know. Right. If you don't feel good and you can't get up and like I'm happy and not be a jerk to people. What's the point of it all. You know. What's the point of it all. I don't know. I guess it's from a health perspective. You know. Do you feel like if you had taken a different turn in your scholastic studies you would have a completely different world view. Probably. I've been in this for like nine years. So it's probably. If you're in military you'd be like here's my three things. We got to kill all the the XYZ's. Yeah. Pursue America's goals. Right. And then country first. That's my third one. Maybe. I don't know. My little brother is a Navy SEAL. So I don't know. Really? Yeah. But he doesn't think that way. He just like I don't know. That's just what's his calling. My sister's in the Navy. Really? Yeah. She's stationed in Holland Lulu right now. That's where my brother is. Oh what. He was in Kailua. Okay. Yeah. Weird. This is really weird. It's because it was a hurricane that was about to hit it. Yeah. Right. Twice now. And we were just checking in with my sister making shoes. Okay. But have you ever gone there before? Yeah. I was born there. What? Okay. It's a really beautiful place. It's gorgeous. I was working in Sweden before I got my first chance to go to Hawaii where my sister was at. Yeah. In Sweden. This was in December. So I got to see my sister for Christmas along with my mom. That's amazing. And what was interesting was in Sweden there's no sunlight during the winter. And it's a lot of snow. Wow. So it gets kind of depressing. It's sad. It's the highest suicide rate of any other country. Oh my gosh. Just because you're like home and they have to turn down the power grid. So like everything's that half flight and you can't really turn on your you can't turn on like your TV all the lights and like blast the heat. You can't do all that at the same time because the power everything goes down by half. So like you maybe have like your internet and you're allowed to watch on TV and it's kind of cold so you got to blanket around you. It's snowing outside and you hear like because it's hitting the window but you can't see the snow because it's dark outside and the streetlights are like dimmed because and it's like that weeks long. You're just weeks long. You're just like well it's too much snow for me to walk to work and every and no one works during sometimes during the winter like half the city will shut down because everyone has summer homes everywhere else. So like you're there with like maybe a third of the population in your town. It's dark. You can't see anybody and you're just like I guess more I watched all the community the TV show and it's a good show. It's a good show when you have nothing but winter and then I got the email from my sister you're like come to Hawaii we're going to be Christmas like cool. So I'm about to go to Hawaii and I went from like absolute snow and darkness to being chased on the highway by double rainbows. Oh gosh. Yeah and it's complete jet lag too. It's like 18 hours or something like that. So like it's completely flips the circadian rhythm. Yeah and everything's beautiful and you're just being disembodied by or bombarded by light and sunlight and like tan people and no one cares. Right. I was just like kind of chill. It's like 80 it's 82 degrees. This sucks. Like oh it's misting rain in every direction. Right. You're bombarded by it then you go back to Sweden and you're just like everyone wants to know it's like tell me the things that you saw the sunlight you saw. That's so cool. But you could take you could take a lot of things for granted I feel. Sure. And maybe that may go for that might go for my personal rule three. It's like don't take anything for granted. Right. That's a good one. I like that. Yeah. I like that no matter what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Including your health. That's true. Because health is wealth. Yeah and like I guess there's so many other things though that bring people happiness other than health. It's just what I'm kind of engrossed in. I have been you know I'm a student back a student right now so it's it's a that's like all I've been reading and doing. How far are you before you're done with all your studies. This is my last year. You're all done. You're writing a thesis. Dissertation. Okay. Okay. Yeah same thing I guess. But it's I'm now doing occupational opioid exposure. Opioid exposure. Okay that's kind of high level stuff right now because you got to make sure everything's labeled and nothing's missing. I got to check out a lot of stuff. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah I have one more year. But yeah. It was just all blueberry muffins or like it was that lemon. What is it. There's like a there's like a cupcake that you eat that has like opioids in it. Poppy seeds. Poppy seeds. There you go. It's delicious. Yeah. Whenever I eat them I'm always like go down on a test. Don't get a job. Yeah. They say they will accept it if you if you gave them that as your explanation but I'm like I don't want to risk that. Right. Just don't eat the poppy seed muffins. I love poppy seed muffins. They're delicious. Yeah. All right. I'll throw one last thing out. Yeah. And then you can head out. Look at this dog. So cute. It's a cute dog. Is it a Shiba Inu? They're very similar. Okay. Oh cool. Is he literally did you get him? Very cool. He's like what is this? Very cool. Oh wow. They get along. That's nice. Which is surprising because you don't want to start to take so much of your time. No. This is great. Just chatting about. I feel like my uh my initial like conversation you asked me. I don't even know where it went. I was just like I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. I don't even know if I completed your it's kind of like a free form chat room and I'm happy just to be able to go outside and talk to people. So like my work schedule is such that the times that I normally have off aren't the times that everybody else have off. So I will have seven days of off time right now. Then I work for four days and then I'm off for another seven days. Like is it four days like 20 hours a day? Kind of like that. Oh gosh. It's kind of really good. Yeah so when I'm working I'm working. I'm if I ever get home it's literally just for sleep and then I wake up and then I go back to work. Whoa. And it's pretty intense but then when you're off you're like friends what do you want to do? It's like I'm working right. Crap that's right. Everyone else has a completely different schedule right? I guess normal. So what I do is on my off days I have like I've developed a lot of hobbies. Yeah. As a necessity to like just have things to do when my friends are busy living the actual lives. Yeah. And one of them is just like set up a table and go outside and talk to people. That's so cool. And I also thought like this is good if I do volunteer work because I'll have time for that as well. Yeah. Let's smash these things together. Wow. That's amazing. It's so cool. Thanks dude. The research that you do I'm curious are you able to talk about it? To a limited extent. Okay. Yeah. So there is a there is a resource that I can give you if you want to know more information about that. And I can write it down on that business card. Sure. But the idea is they don't encourage that people who work there explain what's going on because if I missay something and I didn't mean to say it that way but you interpret it as a different way and you go on to other people and be like oh but I did talk to one of the guys who work there and he said XYZ and it'll be like an issue. It'd be nice if there was just one source that everybody got that information from. Right. That makes sense. And that's the one reason why. I could talk to you about my other jobs if you want. They are interesting in their more own ways too if you want. Yeah. There was I turned trees into fat for a while. What? Yeah. That's the right response. There's this thing called biotechnology. Yeah. You know about it? Sort of. I don't know that much about it. You try to take stuff that grows out of the ground that's really easy to get and turn it into more useful stuff that could be used for technologies where we have to like synthesize stuff with like really costly ingredients or like make a lot of pollution. What if we just grew stuff like pharmaceuticals. Yeah. We can synthesize them in a lab out of a lot of like you know pretty nasty stuff or we can have a bacteria that they really just excretes it if you feed it trash. Wow. And so what we do is we take wood which trees right and what's we feed its bacteria and they produce their metabolites or their fat and fat's really useful. That is like the whole the grail of like useful things. Wow. It's like these really long chains when you look at the atom structures and these really long chains and based on how long it is determines when it melts. So you can like wrap it around medicine and then put it in your body and based on the chain it'll like dissipate at a very specific point of your body. So if you want medicine that releases in your ferro versus medicine that releases in your stomach versus medicine that releases in your gut. It is. Exactly. They're called incipients. Excipients. They are the delivery mechanism for the the medicinal part of drugs. And bacteria are really good at making them specifically. So cool. Okay. So cute. You were good with dogs. I didn't know the name of that. What do you think about big dogs? I think they're cool. I like all dogs. Okay. I don't I don't really. What about pit bulls? I don't mind them. Okay. What about like pit bulls that are like binding off your face? Well yeah I wouldn't mind that. But you are definitely my favorite. Who do you see with that? I think like dogs. I don't think it matters what they are. I think it matters how they're treated. Or how they're raised. Yeah. Because I think that you can have like the biggest scariest looking dog but it could be like a just a big baby you know. If it grows up with an owner. Treats it right and gives them attention and you know. Right. That's what really matters at the end of the day. Right. Right time. I agree. I'm only scared that some owners don't put in that work. Yeah. And that's the thing. I think like door. Yeah. So when I see a big dog I'm like don't want to risk it. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Like I've seen a lady who lives in my area. I won't pinpoint in case she like watches these videos. But like she has a pit bull and she'll walk them. But the pit bull is walking her. Oh. And the leash is not in a grip stable format. It's like just basically she's just like cell phoning it loses that picks it up again. And it's just the pit bull just like sniffing around. I got my cat there. I'm like this is not a good situation. Yeah. I would be scared too. Especially if I had a like even him. I actually I get nervous around other dogs when I you know since I've had him if I have him with me I'm nervous just because he's kind of a baby and acts like a baby. He's like super friendly other dogs. He's more submissive. He is. He's really cool though. But he's like really sweet and gentle. Let me throw something out. Do you have an issue with pineapple being considered Hawaiian like Hawaiian? I have a friend who's Hawaiian. Yeah. He he's like like Polynesian Hawaiian. Yeah. And he takes offense that we will put pineapple on something call it Hawaiian that like if I put a pineapple on this table and call it Hawaiian table. Hawaiian table. Right. Right. You'd be like that is not my culture. But like you will say that. I wouldn't. I guess I don't know enough about Hawaiian culture to to I don't. Yeah. I don't have a problem with it. As a Hawaiian yourself. Well I was born there. But my parents aren't like Hawaiian. Well technically he was born there too. But he is very much as Americanized as possible. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I wouldn't take offense to it. I like pineapple. It tastes good. Yeah. I mean there's lots of that's where they produce a lot of the pineapple. So it used to be. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's still doled. Opened up on Hawaii for like the longest time and then they moved to another place. Okay. I didn't know that. But that's where it was known. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Not only that but spam was also a big deal over there too. Yes. It's in all the airports. They have like macadamia nuts that are flavored with spam. I love their spam. Yeah. Macadamia nuts that are flavored with spam. Yeah. Okay. That's kind of. I have them in the airport. I saw them. I was like what are these? That's crazy. I'm not a big spam fan. My friend, my brother's friend, my brother's ex-girlfriend lives in Hawaii. And when I went out there last to visit him I saw her too. And she's like, she hangs out with a lot of people from Hawaii. Okay. She's a, she was an au pair. What's that mean? It's like a professional nanny in Australia. Okay. Okay. Okay. And then she got a job as a nanny on the North Shore in Hawaii for all these surfers. So like professional surfers. I don't know if you're aware of like certain professional surfers like Billy Kemper. I only know about the lady who got her arm bit off. Oh, um, Tony, young girl, Bethany Hamilton. Okay. I saw her once in Mexico. Really? Okay. Okay. Okay. Serving up this beach we went to. But um, yeah. So she's, she's a nanny for all these professional surfers out there. And she was like, last time I saw her out there, she was like, you have to try this. I think it's called the sous vide. And it was like, basically like spam sushi. Ooh. Okay. So I'm, I'm trying to like think, so it's like the rice and the seaweed, but spam instead of fish. I try to bite of it. I was like, I'm not getting one, but I'll try it. I'll try it. I tried it. It was salty. I was like, I wasn't impressed. It's spammy. Did it taste like sushi or did it taste like just spam in disguise? It tastes like salty rice. Okay. Not anything. Yeah. I bet it lasts a lot longer than sushi. Yeah. My issue is I certainly, I recently learned how to make sushi, but my, but my problem is I keep buying way too much fish because it takes a little bit. Yeah. It only takes a little bit for like, fill up a whole roll. Yeah. And when you're done, you have all this fish left over. And I got a cast like, give me so that I'm like, I'm going to give you iron poisoning if I give you this much fish. So I'm like a little bit, then I got like, I keep it in the fridge for a day. And then after the second day, I don't trust it anymore. That's just me. You don't know it smells fishy. Yeah. How are you supposed to know? Right. Literally fishy. All right. That's funny. I got, I got another party thing I want to try to check out. What's your name again? My name is Ty. If you want, please take a card. If you, if you like any of the chats, if you want to try this again, I'm like a strict topic or anything like that. That'd be cool. That would be cool. I feel like I'm not good at disseminating like my perspective on like what I do because I don't know how to explain it. You know, when you get into something. Epidemiology? Yeah. But I feel like we got some things on public health and then we got like the three rules for how everyone should leave. Don't be a jerk. Try to do something I think is like a better, my original three was, don't be a jerk. Work. Dang it. Oh, look at the little lady. Oh, no, you're good. You're fine. Hi, cutie. So cute. Yeah. It's like, don't be a jerk. Work hard and keep your philosophy to yourself. Oh, I like that. Right. I like it. Okay. In our world today, everyone's, I mean, we all have our own perspectives and, you know, our own viewpoints on things. And I think that's a culprit of a lot of, I don't know. That's like, you know, that's like an underlying issue for a lot of things. Right. But I did, we did come up with a really good third rule. I just, I didn't write it down. What was it? Do you something? No. Do something is number two. The third one. Thankfully it's recorded. We can go back. I can go back over. Okay. But it's good. We came up with something really good. Yeah, that was good. Rodin. Yeah, Ty, nice to meet you. Yeah, Ty and Ted. Wait, and your cat was, don't tell me, it was, who's a cool name? What does it start with? Vinny. Vinny, right? That's it. Sweet. He's a really cool cat. Good luck with this. Now you're stuck. Sounds like you're doing interesting things. Thanks. Good luck with your mom and her hearing. Oh, she's good. She's good. She can hear whenever she wants to. She just chooses. She chooses not to. Whenever she wants to. Yeah. I understand that. I actually got hearing aids when I was 25. I don't wear them all the time, but only like when I'm in school or when I'm not like exercising because I don't want to like sweat all of them. Okay. But I found out that I had hearing loss too. It's not like huge, like profound, severe, but. Is it generative by annual, by oral generative hearing loss? I don't know. I think I got it like, I think I got it when I was younger because being in like always being near ocean and water, I had an infection when I was younger. Oh. Well, it's the same infection just recurring. And I had tube surgeries like four or five when I was little. And I don't know if they ever did a comprehensive hearing evaluation on me as a child. And so when I, all through school, I used to have a lot of anxiety issues when I was younger. And in school, I was really anxious because I didn't realize that I could hear everything. So I would write everything down like feverish, you know, like all the time I had all sorts of notes. And then I didn't watch anything as I would miss little things. I would get lost and I would get bored. And so my entire life growing up, never watched anything, didn't listen to music, like the words. I like songs, but I couldn't understand that. Okay, okay. Get into this stuff, you know. And then when I was 25, after grad school, I worked in ENT. Yeah. And I found out I had hearing loss. Really? And graduate school is when you found out? After grad school. What? After grad school? When I worked in ENT research, because we did research on hearing. Sure. So the audiologist, one of them, she was like, you should have your head on. How severe is it? It's like moderate mild. It's not terrible. I think it's more in my left than my right. Okay. I worry about getting that all the time. Yeah. Because of it in my family. And we had to do some preliminary tests, but they found that it wasn't progressing at the rate that they thought. Like whenever I get like weird tinnitus, like whenever it's like, ooh, that music was too loud. I place where I'm going is a guy who has a band and I'll play poorly. I'm just there to hang out with them. You play them? Kind of, yeah. So I'm not good live, but I'm good when I have like multiple takes and I could do it over and over and over and over again and then record the best take and then I just copy and paste that and like perfect. When you play it all at once, it's perfect, but like play it live. I'm like eh, what's going on. But I was playing at his house like last month and he throws a drummer and the drummer was like right by my side and he was playing for like about an hour and when I go in my car, it's like nothing's here and everything's here and I'm like crap and I was really terrified. Did I just make myself deaf? I got out of my family. What happened? You can get a temporary threshold shift. Temporary threshold shift? Yeah, if you're supposed to like loud, loud, you know, about superior or about like noise exposure, but it'll go back down, but I don't know if that's like damaging to the hair cells if it's just like on my time. I hope not. Yeah, I don't know how. Like I still feel like I can hear you. That's the craziest part. It's something that can sneak up on you, right? It's insidious, yeah. I feel like if you worry about stuff like that all the time, like right now there are people looking at that sunset and they're like they can't see red. They're just like eh, what's everyone talking about? It's like it's the same thing, right? You can only hear what you can hear. Are the people who don't appreciate like art just people who have like a dysfunction? Yeah. And is there such a thing as like a mental dysfunction to the point where it's like, oh I can't pray at movies, please? Right, because there's something up. That's died a little? Right. Or like got lost as they got older? Yeah. Like they're emotionally deaf on one area of the spectrum. Maybe. Could be. Maybe. The perspective is interesting. It is. Robin, I could talk to you for a long time. Yeah, I've been chatting with you. Enjoy your night. You too, you too. See you. If you see me again, try this. Let's try this. Yeah, for sure. It is! Okay.