 So Richard Pozzigino seems to be inside with a better team. Do you agree and either way are satisfied with that win? They're a very good team, without a shadow of a doubt. Better in some ways, they kept the ball, they've got very good players, technical players, we know that. They spent a fortune on players, he's a top manager, so I wouldn't dispute his opinion. What I would say is you've got to find ways of winning, and that's the biggest pleasing thing for me. We're finding different ways of winning. You've covered us, you've seen it yourself. There's games where we've dominated the chance count of one game, there's games where we haven't with one game. There's games where we've defended very resolutely, like we have to today, and fight and work and do the ugly side of the game. That mixture is really important over a season's work, and never more so important than recently with the news and the points and all that sort of business. To find different ways of winning is very pleasing. To find different ways of winning against what I think there'll be a top side again, because they've got a top manager and they've got some very good players. So to find different ways of winning is very, very pleasing, and under all that is a very, very firm mentality that's growing all the time. And with our supporters, I mentioned how powerful it would be that the alignment continues to grow. Of course winning helps that, but I think the fans stayed resolute the early season, because I think the true toffees are out there seeing a side and going, they're playing well, you know, we can't get a win, but everyone's going, how are you not one of that? Or most people I speak to, maybe they're just being generous because they meet me in real time. Yeah, to cover a few things I think it's important too. Ganna has been absolutely terrific lately, he's put so much in, he just looked tired. I told him that, it wasn't a tactical thing, nothing to do with it, he just looked fatigued. Youngy very similarly, he's got a niggly injury, we're hoping it's not serious. But you know, these guys are putting a big shift in. I've spoken endlessly to the group about squad mentality. I'm very pleased with that part of coming in and players looking after themselves and staying on top of their performances in training, the ones who are not always playing regular. So many pleasing things behind that, you know, Miko continues to improve and grow as a player, Jarrod and Tarky, very good relationship, Jordan, you know, as he does top key. But you know, there's so many other things, Jimmy Garner two days ill and coming out and giving that performance physically. His team play is awesome, I think, it's not just his ability, but his actual team ethic is absolutely outstanding. Look, there's so many good things, you know, so many pleasing things, a duke, I mean, duke's been a credit to himself and credit to the club, in my opinion, since I've got him. I don't know if the game's understood, but I mean, when you look back in this week, those three wins, three things, how do you reflect on that? Just, you know, the pleasing things a manager is when you're working consistently, because I can't ask for consistency from the team, which I do ask for, you've heard me talk about it ever since I got here. But you've got to be consistent yourself and I think the way that I work, I think the way the staff work, we have a consistency. Wins, losses, ups and downs, ten-point deductions, all that. No, this is what we're doing, this is not just, this is what we're doing, this is our responsibility, this is our focus, this is what we're doing. So, to get the players to understand that and take it on very clear-mindedly, it's very pleasing. Management's a funny industry, you know, everyone says, why aren't you doing that and why aren't you doing that? You've got to line everyone, not an easy thing. So, their, their, well, the gratitude I have is for them, accepting that this is it, accepting the workload, accepting what we try and give to them and then deliver it. So, the players deserve the most amount of credit for me. So, I've known him a long time, sorry. Please, that mic was worth it. Do you know how much it's pleased you to see the sort of decode, the improvement in, like, a decode, in a garden, in a ground? How much has to be your job because you've not got me? Well, I think, I think, when I finished as a player and I went into coaching, my first goal was to give the players something better than I thought I had. And I learned a lot from many coaches during my career, so I just thought, what could I add to them? Not me, I've had my time, what could I add to them? That has never lost me, you know, through all the ups and downs of being a manager, because obviously it's considerably different when you're a manager, you've got to win. But through all of that, I've never lost sight of, can we rub off on the players and improve them as well? And I think there's really clear signs of that, and it's, it's different, it's a different kind of improvement. When I was in the youth team many moons ago, you know, they're malleable, they're young kids and they want to learn and you can offer many things. Sometimes with the players when they get older, maybe just tactical nuances, you know, maybe diet, maybe looking after yourself, maybe professionalism, maybe mentality. But there's still improvements, there's still ways that you can offer, you know, another, another person in football a chance to improve. But I've said for years, you can only guide them, you can only guide their acceptance and their way of working to listen and to take it on. That's the most pleasing thing, because you can only offer, you know, the way the world is now, you can't, I used to get told you've got to do this, you've got to do that. It's not like that anymore. You can offer and say, right, this is one of the things good. Let's try and get a bit of rapport going. Let's get a bit of buy-in with each other, unless you can't, you know, develop as individual, develop as a team. Sounds really easy. It's not, trust me. But we've got a group here since pre-season who have gone right. Okay, we're going to find a connection. And the group have been absolutely fantastic and lots of work to do by. No one forgets that. I don't. So much of the line-back to work on the day-to-day basis and his work ethic went off on his. I thought he was tremendous since I've been in the building. I think, you know, his work ethic is constant. I think three in a week don't bother him. He's like, yeah, okay, let's go. His mentality has been solid and firm and his delivery and he can find quality moments. So I've not, other than getting him back in the team, I've not really overcoached him. I've allowed him to play freely and I think he's enjoyed that. You know, we have to give tactical understanding nuances, but I've not sort of put massive demands on him. I certainly wasn't saying, right, you've got to go and score loads of goals. But I knew from his history he could score goals. And he's a player that I liked many moons ago when he was at Watford. So I've always, you know what it's like is you sort of reference points from players. And when you work with them, you go, yeah, actually, you are what I thought you were going to be. And he's certainly one who was exactly that. Players had continued doing the stuff on the pitch after that. It's sort of like becoming the figurehead of that fight. No, there's loads of figureheads. Tarky, the way he goes about it. Seamus, even though he's not in the side, I'd say he's still affecting the group and now he goes about it. No, it's not as simple as that. We want them all. I spoke openly to him about leadership and leadership's changed. You know, it's not just about someone, you know, big voice and organizing all that sort of stuff. You can be a leader in different ways. Dwight can lead by the way. He delivers by the way his work ethic is. Duke's the same. Just his pure work ethic is a leadership style. Because everyone looks and says, he is putting the miles on the clock. So I'll come with you. I'll come and help you out. You know, these are all different leadership styles, but we're beginning to get a group who are taking it on. You know, they're not waiting for each other. They're actually saying, right, let's take the next challenge on. And that is a powerful thing, especially when you've got quality. I still think we've got real quality in the squad as well. Sean, if you had those points back, you'd be in the top half of the league. Well, he's saying that it's been a really lovely afternoon. You have to remind me where we would be. All right, I'll give you a chance to elaborate. I'm asking, what would your team, what would Everton look like? What's possible for this team? Well, you know, it would be what it is. It's a side that I felt, the first marker. And I asked endlessly about it at the end of last season. What do you see in the new season? I said, we've got to improve. The first marker is just to improve. Can you improve the individual? Can you improve the team? But can you improve the output? As in points and wins? Well, yes, we've done all of that. And then some people came along and went, OK, well, we'll take a bit of that away. So you start again. So we went, OK, we will. That's, you know, I can give you a million reasons, a million ups and downs. You know, I often think the simplicity is genius. So I said to the players, right, this is done for now. This is done. This is where we're at. No excuses. This is a reality. So let's crack on. And they've taken it on. You know, the one that got away was still Manny. I thought we were excellent against Manny. And yeah, we didn't get that one. Coach, you always seem to be under the touch, you know, battling medication or whatever. You know, it just seems to me, if you get a chance to be expansive and express, you know, get things to express the real short diet, what would it look like? I don't know. One that wins. That's always been my obsession as a player and as a manager. I think you've noticed there's been some noise about why I do this and I do that or I don't do this and I don't do that. I can't remember responding to it probably ever. So I don't know. I've lost sight of what the game is about and that's to win. So if it starts with a winning mentality, then we've got a chance. So I don't know. That's what I'd hope. People look at a team and go, they'll give their lots of win. That's a powerful thing. It might be old fashioned, but I'd say it's a powerful thing when you've got a group of players who are saying we are going to give everything to win. That's a good thing to have. Richard just said in here that you want to spend money to get a strike and get aggression in to help your team. I was wondering if your team were giving you that opposite reason to not spend money in January and what you react to spending? Yeah, I don't want to spend any money. Just keep giving us nothing. That'll be helpful. Really? It's always helpful if you've got money. But at this current time and during the summer, I try to be fair and say, look, we've got to cut our cloth accordingly. That's what we're trying to do. Find a more balanced squad. I think we have done. Trying to get it to operate. Why there's clear signs of that. It's a constant work in progress. Back to your point, it's a constant work in progress. If things didn't go well for them games, trust me, the novelty of 10 points wears off very quickly and say, oh, we've got to make a change. That's the reality. They're the laws of the jungle when you're a football manager. I've been doing it a long time. I wasn't running around the pitch at the end, if you noticed. I know the next one's the most important one. And we've still got half, more than half a season's work in front of us. Yes, I enjoy it more than you think. But when I wake up tomorrow and I'm going, right, that one's the next, most important thing and that's next week. Well, Sean, first of all, we've got to lose time. Do you know what I was most pleased? Because it was just a really authentic reaction. I commended him afterwards about it. You know, everyone now does want to do a dance, not nonsense. He's run over the corner, slid on his knees, I went, have that. And then everyone went with him. Oh, seriously, that's when you're on something. I'd love to score a goal. I don't express it in that way. Who thinks they're going to do the dance? I can't even work it out. I just go and enjoy the moment. And if you see the reaction from him and all of his teammates, everyone's just piling on. I love that. I love the authenticity of that, seeing someone score a goal. Delight in their face. Magic, actually, delighted for him. Couldn't be more delighted for him. It's been a bit of a policy response. Has he been playing football? Well, you have to wait. He's a young player. He's developing. He's learning. And that's the game. You have to be patient. My own son's a footballer. He's not getting his game. And I said, that's being a professional footballer son. So it's not that. But I give the players here what I give to my own. You know what I mean? So I told them. I tell them. I tell them to tell me stuff. I tell me how. So, you know, I think that's fair. You know, I go, look, that's the demand. You know, keep working hard. Wait for your chance. Stay right. And he stayed right. And it's a very fine line today. Putting Arnie on, putting him on, who fits the bill. Tough game. We're working. We tried to dog it out, trying to see it through. I didn't put him on trust me and go, yeah, I'll go and ping one in the corner, mate. So even with subs and that, I get a question about subs all the time. I don't milk it when I get it right. I'm not too, when I get it wrong. It's very difficult putting subs on and when to put them on and all the different reasons. So, you know, there's a lot to it. Back to the point. Anyway, I'm absolutely delighted for him. Delighted for the team. Delighted for all of them. Delighted for the squad. Because it's not just the team. There's a lot of people working very hard here who are not playing at the moment. We'll just take a couple more ones from here. Sean, is it too simplistic to say that that point deduction is sort of galvanised when everyone plays? Yeah, it is. It is, yeah. Because the reason I'll give is that I thought we were on something before all this. I thought we were playing well. I thought the performances were good. I thought the mentality was good. I thought the fans were with us anyway. It might have enhanced that bit. I think some of the fans might have gone, hang on a minute, cool, that's a blow. So just seeing that reaction has been very pleasing. But no, I think our performances have been good. I've been very pleased. You know, even the ones early season when we were questioned about not winning. I thought some of the performances were excellent. Arguably it's good if not better than some of the recent performances. But as we just spoke about it, you've got to win. I think the word you've used most today is mentality. Getting this team together was that the most important thing in saying you're going to be my player and maybe letting others go. But when you look around the Premier League at some of the big clubs who've got a lot of big players but maybe haven't been put together with mentality and mind. It's not... You've made some old scheme. Do you see mentality being not as respected across the Premier League as it is? For me, it's not old school or new school. It's the right school for one. Within all that, it's not easy. You can't just recruit on mentality. You have to form a mentality. There was players who left here. We had no choice because of the contractual situation and the finance of the club. There's players we bought in who we wanted, who we thought could grow into the club and the finances were right. And there's players here who could develop further. And the biggest thing for me was trying to get a more balanced view of the squad. So that's what I had to do. That's part of the job. And knowing the parameters when I got here they did change a little bit. It's fair to say. But working within it, no excuses, right? What can we do rather than what we can? So I was looking at what we could do, looking at the players we could get in, the ones that we thought could be effective and then equally the ones we got and moulding that into a strong group. So that's part of the job. Managing the reality is what I really enjoy. Even if the reality is not very good news. But at least I know it's reality. It's when the goalposts keep shifting. That's when it's really difficult for managers. So fortunately I've had a straight alignment for this is the situation, this is where it's at, this is what you're going to have to manage. So I'm like, cool. Yep, okay, let's crack up. Okay, folks. Thank you.