 Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hostess, she brought P, C, D, O, because you never heard the hostess. Check it, man. I can't let her have that. That was the whole thing. You didn't hear the hostess before. Hey, man. Hey, man. I saw him sign over there, he was, yeah. Official Mr. Makeaway. Who did that? XO, man. Who? XO. XO. He did the rapping though. That's her. That's her name. Oh, that's her name? Yeah. I don't know how to tell my XO to produce. No, you don't. I thought that's who you was talking about. No. Who do you know who it is? Yeah, yeah. She's from East Texas. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You talking about the girl? She's never good. No, they didn't work with her lately. They did back in the day. She been in the game a while. Oh. Yeah, yeah. But she, lyrically, she go hard. Man, it's going to be hard to mess with. I can show you some stuff. It's crazy, man. But it's just like, like, you just, you just, you grab a talent that, that you do what works for you. Like when I hit her up and say, hey, give me a song, she straight go get it. You know how it is when somebody doing something, you're like, damn, it's meant to be. I had another song before that, that she had done before. The Unicustle. And it was like this. That was just a new Unicustle song. When I first, I didn't hear it in the podcast. No, you didn't hear this one. No. And this was about the store, right? Yeah. So this was about my store. I just told her I wanted to do me something for the store. And she was going to eat. Let him hear it. That's how she did it. So we picking her the tracks. She'd be writing and then picking her tracks. Watch this. She'd be doing it every time for me, man. So it's like, you know, you just went, when you gifted with somebody that just rock with you and you ask them to, hey, do this, do that, it's hard to get people to do something. I done had so many people like, man, give me something for a minute. They won't do it. And what I trip off of is how many streams they hear this. Like this song. Has she uploaded it? No, she ain't uploaded it. Listen, this song, look how many, you know how many people have heard that dang intro because we started the show? The ballstalk intro been everywhere. That's a good intro. And everybody, you know what they say? Who is that? Everybody. I remember Rainwater saying that. Everybody. Man, who is that? Every time I told you last time. Every single time. It's the beat and the way she ride it. It's hard for anybody to beat that. Like we can tell people, hey, make us an intro song. But then when, if we do get one, it's like, it's just not the same. It ain't hitting. It ain't hitting like that. That track, dude. Get it right though. Yeah, yeah, we gotta have that, man. You know it's on the right. It's on the right. It's on the right. It's the same, man. So, man, let's get to you Carl, man. How you been, man? I'm good, you know, like, you know, moving around. Just dealing with the music business. Man, thank you so much for just coming back on ballstalk, man. You know, last time you was on, I did put them clips in there on you, nigga boy. I'm good. I'm popping them clips in there, man. I'm wearing a clip, man. I did it because I was like, man, now I'm going to paint the pictures. I'm like an artist, right? Right, right. So I'd be like, man, we're going to paint this picture, man. That's what the man said. This wasn't going down. Yeah, yeah. And I just, and everybody was like chiming in. They loved it, to be honest with you, because it was like, yeah, some of them hated it, but hated to love it. I remember, you remember when a game in 50, hated to love it, you know. Hey, man, it's the truth, man, you know. Some people don't like the truth. Some people do. Last time, and it was a thing where, when you had spoke about Megan, if something happened after that, and I reposted this stuff again, I don't know what it was. I think you said something about it. When you said something, I shot it back up again. And then she responded with something else. That's the reason why. I didn't know what that was about. That's the thing, you know, like little ways for every time you say something. They don't want you to say that, you know, but it's like, whatever it's going to do, you have to say what's going on in your life. They don't want you to speak your truth. Exactly. They just want to be able to put their story out and gag you in the middle, but, you know. I've seen you, like I said, I don't know what it was. You like, like it was a small victory or something. Yeah, it was real small. It wasn't that major. They do it all the time, you know what I'm saying? But they take little small victories, and they blow it up in the media like it's a huge win. We got that really happening. You know, they do it all the time. It's to take the narrative of that. They winning something, and they get the public opinion on your side. So, you know, I did it one little time, and they fucking had a hissy film. So many pages on your story. Just going crazy, you know. And I'm just like, damn, boy, they hate to lose one little time. But, you know, at the end, you're going to lose anyway. Yeah, yeah. Hell, no, it's going to happen. Well, the thing is, you know, he come from sports, so he ain't in the losing. Yeah. And all of them, like, you don't even mention losing. He loves the competition. Yeah, I think, you know, naturally I'm a competitive person. You know what I'm saying? I hate to lose. I've been like that since I was a youngster. And then I just stand for what's right. You know what I'm saying? I'm one of those people. Like, I'm for justice. I want people to, I want, if you did something wrong to somebody, I want you to pay for that. I know this was last time when you came down to Dallas, and you came to our studio. I didn't even realize that to me, it was like the beginning of your media run. Because after that, it was like you were in every single way. Every time I looked on your Instagram, you here, you there, and you doing shows, and then you doing pop-ups, and you doing this. I'm like, dang, almost every, and it wasn't just weekends. It was during the week, too. I'm like... Every day. Every day. You know, I was like, slow it down, my PR, lady, we need to chill for interviews for a little while, because you know, I was on the road. Right. We slowed it down. And it was the whole camp. Y'all actually the first one. Right. And I'm actually cranking it back up. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cranking it back up. We love that. We love it, man. Every time I be like, man, we got to go see Carl. I was on the road, boy. So you're about to start cranking it up again? Well, I mean, I'll just be talking and stuff more again. Because you know, everything happening, I guess, so they actually wait for these type of moments when I'm talking to you guys so I can say the wrong little thing. Yeah. Twist it in terms of how to be real careful what I say. So it's like, well, we have to pause and kind of like just, you know, get everything under wraps. Yeah, like what's... Yeah, Megan gonna get the same bill. I'm getting, you know what I'm saying? She don't know that. You know what I'm saying? She just bragging about soaring people. Yeah, but you finna get a serious bill at the end of that. When all this is done, Megan, you gonna get a bill just as big as mine. I mean, I know you, it's people telling you, hey man, you can't say that or you can't say this. But I mean, the thing that when you bring somebody up as big as a Megan Estelle, you know, when you pretty much put her in position. Right. And then you put these, say I can't talk or say this or that. No. How uncomfortable is that? Well, it's very uncomfortable because you can never speak your truth and you have these powers that, you know, of course, you know, she got the big power of people that's helping her, of course. So it makes it real difficult on me. But at the end of the day, you got to pick and choose when you want to say certain stuff because clearly they'll sue you and they'll keep suing you. My thing, I'm just trying to get a court date. You know what I'm saying? I can't even get a court date. But why are you choosing to talk now compared to, you know, because you could wait till the, I know it sometimes takes years. Yeah. Forever. Because a lot of times when you don't talk, you know, they want to sweep it under the rug and then they act like there's nothing going on. Like a lot of times people like, man, I thought this stuff was over with. Right. You know what I'm saying? You be like, nah, we ain't even close. We ain't even close. And it's going on three years, you know, we ain't even close. You don't talk about it then. It kind of like gets swept under the rug. Then you do what I did like the last time. And now, you know, stuff moving, lawyers telling me I'm sued, you know, another court date. It gets it going. Even though it's kind of crazy, it gets things moving. That's crazy. That's crazy. It's almost like you got to make them do their job. You got to make them do it because they don't care about my case. You know what I'm saying? They just be like whatever. You know what? The people got these lawyers on stipends for months and on end, you know, 12 months down the line. They getting paid. Them lawyers pockets fast. I'm telling you. She ain't going to get the same bill. I'm getting, you know what I'm saying? She don't know that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She just, you know, bragging about suing people. Yeah. But you're going to get a serious bill at the end of that. When all this is done, Megan, you're going to get a bill just as big as mine. That's crazy. Yeah. I hope you can pay for it. Yeah. No, but I get it because at the end of the day, your brand is something that you've built up and people are looking and you, you know, you, you're changing people's lives. You dealing with a lot of people's lives. You got all these different people that depend on you. So when somebody say something that, that, you know, ain't true or if it is something that they were already killed. Like, you know, they already made it so tough for me to even get artists that want to deal with me, you know, because of stuff, you know, so I've lost a lot of business behind, you know, this situation and they continue to make it seem like, you know, like I'm a bad person and whatnot. But, you know, at the end of the day, man, I ain't got played since 2018. You know what I'm saying? Wow. Some shows, endorsements, whatever the case may be, you know what I'm saying? I haven't played one thing like she said I owe her, which is a lie, but you know, so of course, man, if somebody ain't paid you in three, four years, it's a problem, man. Is it all they do? So, you know, ask them, ask them since she signed with Rock Nation, she haven't played one show. Now who, you know what I'm saying? Like, this going back to... And the paperwork states that... One show. Just think about all the shows they've done, a lot of them. We haven't got paid one time for that. That's crazy. And you doing, you know what I'm saying? You like one of the biggest acts in the country. Because all that's going to be tied up in court. Yes. Yeah. So that's their way of just like getting away with it for now. Exactly. It's going to bite you. Yeah. I don't think they... That the bigger lawyer's win? Yep. I hope that the biggest lawyer win. Me. All that type of stuff, you know. So it's just, it's just unfortunate that we have to go through this and it's like, it's personal. They really just kind of want to see me fail or not. Because at the end of the day, it's always a simple fix. You know what I'm saying? You got it by bigging it. I don't understand what, why is it a money problem? Or maybe it's just a pride thing. Pride, ego. Ego. All that stuff. Yeah, it's not really the money. Right. It's more of a, you know, excuse my friends, big slang and content. Yeah. Yeah. But a good thing about it is that you're going through this now in the earlier part of your career. We're a business, we're the music industry's concern. You don't want to wait until later on. Because now it teaches you how to tweak certain things. Right, right. This does not happen again. They said that was one of the best things to have for me to go through this early on because I've learned stuff. Exactly. Hell of a lesson. Hell of a lesson. Hell of a lesson. Yeah. I just appreciate you, man, for letting us come down here in this eight-minute, dope establishment, man. We can't wait to get the tour. Yeah, we're getting the tour here in a minute. I have a little, you know, Team The Snow Project, you know, Eric and Project, you know what I'm saying? We're doing a lot of stuff in here. So, you know, we got a lot of success out of this. How long you been here? Since 2000, we got finished around about 2018, I think. It was always my little spot when I was in my 20s, you know. Yeah. Had to do something right with it. Man, I ain't going to lie to you. It's dope, man. Just going up and just looking at what I've already seen. I know I'm going to see more in a minute, but, man, dope, man. I love the records, man. The records are real, bro. Like, the work is real. You know what I mean? And that's the thing about it, man. When you're doing real work and you're really putting it down, man, it pays off. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, you know, we, that's one of my things you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to work everybody and just try to bring as many of these flaxs back to the city of Houston as we can. But even though I put something in Dallas too, because I gave someone those DJs flaxs too after because they really had a big part in breaking the record. And making them. Yeah. And making. That's cool. Yeah. Did you ever think that you do it back to back? I know you don't want to it's back to back. I know, you know, I just didn't really think about it to be honest which I just knew it had to be done, you know. Of course. I think I can do it again. With who? I don't know. Yeah. With all of them. You know what I'm saying? With all my hardest, but you know, it's always that one that just gonna, you know, work as harder than the other ones and stand out more. You know, I'll notice that. That's what it's all about. Like, like at the end of the day, you know, being able to sniff out that talent. You know what I mean? Being able to understand when it's time to apply the pressure. Right. Being able to keep consistently working, right? You already know this from being in the sports. Yeah. If you don't, if you don't work, it ain't gonna pay off. Yeah. You gotta be consistent. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna practice how you play all the rules that we learn in the baseball. I mean sports, first one now, last one to leave, you know, apply all those simple rules to the music and the work for me. So, have a guy like Spooty who plays sports to kind of understand that, you know, it really makes it easier on many times. But how draining is this industry? Because I see it on the go constantly. How, what do you do to savor your energy? Right. I just try to stay, sit still in one spot and sleep whenever I can. You know, pretty much try to rest as much as possible because the nighttime is even worse than the daytime, you know. So, it's like that really takes the energy out. So, try not to do too much at night and then rest during the day. Do you still work out? Not too much. Like, I do like body stuff. Like, I don't go to the gym because I don't want it at every weight. You're going to hurt yourself, don't you? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, my age, I'm 40 years old. So, I don't want like muscles and bulks. So, I want my clothes to look right on me. But I be thinking about cardio. You know, they always say working out, you know, working that heart rate and stuff like that, that helps you to get through your day. Yeah, no, pushups or something like that. Resistance weight is way better. Yeah, that's why I do resistance. Yeah, that's the most dope it's saying, man. So, I mean, you know, just seeing your movement, man, Stunning Bam and all these guys, man, what's the next project coming out for you? Well, we actually just put out D-Raw Project today. Okay, D-Raw, man. So, we've been waiting to put that out for a while. It's a little new style I love the cover. Yeah. Cover it though. And then we put Smoothie single out, Chad Butler today. And, you know, he got a project coming soon and Stunning Bam music is actually coming out as well. We put Martina music out for the EP through songs. Yeah, I see that. That was a little something to work with. So, we got a lot of music coming out through 1501. We just hope, you know what I'm saying? Some catch. We keep it going, and just hang out with you, man. And just, you know, just get to see the movement, man. Get to see, you know, how you cooking it up, you know, come into the studio, hang out with you guys, man. We had some dope people to come through the day. Thanks to you, man. We came down here to Houston as we spoke on the show that we was going to do. And the good thing about it is to be wanting to do what you, you know, say that you're going to do. And most people, you know, they don't keep their word. So that's the most important thing. I hate people that don't keep their word. Me too, man. So when you, when you do that with me, I'm like, hell nah, man. I'm going to always value that, bro. Because it's a bunch of niggas that be lying. You know what I'm saying? That don't be understanding the value of things sometimes. Just feeling, feeling like I was talking to the people at 979 in the box. Like, they was like, man, none of the young kids want to come in and do an interview at the radio station. Like, what? You know, like, that's all I want to do. Every order is up there, do the freestyle, whatever it is. They were like, man, they don't want to do it at all. And it's like, they got to beg them to come. And I'm like, Or if they say they going to do it, they end up canceling. They said they going to do it and all that. Because I think it's because of the YouTube money and all the stuff that's going on around though. All that matters. All that matters. But still, you know, I would want the whole order. Are you a hustler? That's all that is. You just, you know already what's going to happen if you do everything. I don't know why you would want both sides. That's what I'm saying. And they mind, they only know YouTube. You know, you remember the impact and you can see the impact of everything. They just know, Hey man, when I jump on YouTube, man, I'm going to go get that head pain. Let's say cheese. So that, you know what I'm saying? They boss talk or whatever, but I'm going to hang out and I'm going to gig it. Yeah. And then they going to send my money. That's what they're looking at. I'm telling you. So man, you know, I just, like I said, we're going to continue to keep you in our prayers. We thank you. I've seen that little girl running right here too. Man, I love babies. She smells, man. Man, adorable. She running this place. I told him that. He tried to get me to come out that time. I'm sorry. She's like, what you trying to tell me about that? Don't do that, man. She running this thing, man. You ain't really, what I'm going to say. No. I'll tell her. She got to be quiet. I don't know. She got to like the attitude, the worst attitude out of all. That's the baby. That's what a baby does. She going to run this whole operation one day, man. That's what I said. Yeah. She going to run the whole day. That's why you let her come in and like, I don't get used to what you're trying to be like. Man. She wants to be your own daddy. Yeah. So. Man, and that's dope, man, that you do let her spend time up here. That's the dopest thing. Man, because I be wanting them to catch up. You know what I'm saying? We have a restaurant too, if y'all have time. A restaurant? Yeah, Burns Barbecue, but I'll be trying to put like my kids like and all, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I got, my little girl came here and it was funny because she came, my oldest daughter came here and she went back home in Las Vegas and her mom was like, man, this girl won't stop freestyling. She's just walking around and trying to run Burns. I was like, what? She's like, yeah, she been putting words together all day. I'll say, well, I guess we might have a little wrap on our way. Yeah. We're going to see how I'm going to tell her we're going to let her do a verse when she come back. Yeah. That's dope, man. She's like nine years old. Let her do a verse, man. But you don't know she might be the next one. That's what I said. So. Man, I can't wait, man. We're going to interview our own boss. What a boss is talking, man. Mom, my kid got some type of little flat tool. I think they are going to be potential rappers or something. I'm going to put them in sports. Put them to the test, man. They're going to be dope, man. So, man, thank you, man, for sitting down with us. Thank you for inviting us in, man. Right. Like I said, anytime I'm in Houston, I'm tapping in. I'm going to hit you up or I'm going to do something to show love. And we go every time we going to spend it, man. Whatever you doing, we do it. We keep coming up with a little office, man. You know, I mean, you get it, man. But what are you going to do in the summertime? I got to. I need all the clothes. You don't wear Jackson's in the summertime? I wear them. It's still cold. Most of the time. What do you wear in the summertime? I wear them sometime like, you know, shorts and t-shirts. Yeah. We go out in that, too. We're going to keep you some gear. I promise you, okay, every time you look around, a boxer is going to be coming up to you. Like, man, this is a good thing. God! We're going to keep it fly, too. My momma, it's going to be good. Take stuff off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Man. That's true, man. Hey, man, I guess we for the setting now. Yeah. I want to know a little bit more about that barbecue spot since I'm even hungry for it. Yeah, I guess I'm in a restaurant. My restaurant, my brother, you know, we own it, family things. We took over it and we kind of just, you know, elevated it to some other stuff. We got like four new locations, you know, like Kroger's, we put them in there. All here in Houston? Are you going to branch off to Dallas? Yeah, he actually is putting one in Dallas. You know what I'm saying? That's dope, man. Do you ever be in there cooking? No, man. Yo, no. I used to work there when I was a kid, you know. That boy's not good. I used to work there. Last time I worked there, I was probably about 10 to 12 years old, you know what I'm saying? Do you say that's the best barbecue around town? Of course. Of course. I wouldn't. Before he passed away, he came and came to our barbecue place and did a whole show about it. Really? Every time they add that episode on C&E, it's a whole wave of people coming from the airport to the station. For real? Wow. That's dope, man. Is it like the barbecue sauce? Is it homemade? Yeah, it's homemade. It was my grandfather's special recipe. So yeah, we done patting it and everything, you know. That's dope, man. That's dope, bro. It's like a little black dollar, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got to check it out. We're gonna check it out, man. Thank you so much for coming on Boss Talk with us again, man. Hey, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, where the boss is talking. And we have...