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We're talking about is there a war on men and We're gonna get started with some openings and then we'll jump right into the dialogue if you have any questions You can tag me at converse contender my name there on the screen Or you can send in a super chat super chats will get pushed to the top of the list on the Q&A section Okay, so we'll get started here. Hey, would you like to go first? Yes, thank you very much for having me on Modern day debate again. I really appreciate all of you guys and thank you to converse contender for Guest hosting last minute is great and thanks to Carissa For joining as well. I this is a I'm James Hake of the Hake Report guys. Nice to see you chat. Um, I Love this topic. It's an important Topic I debated on modern-day debate versus Brenton Langle just seemingly a couple of weeks ago on this same issue that My take is basically that since the beginning of time, there's always been an evil attack specifically against the man as You may know I work with Jesse Lee Peterson who is a pastor a counselor and an authority on Men how men can be rebuilt by returning to the father and returning to God how did we fall away from God and that's the attack on men is the Keeping men away from God and then keeping that then you can just take out the women and children the women listened how did the man fall away from God the woman listened to the serpent and The man listens to the woman who listens to the serpent so basically the woman is the man's God and Satan is the woman's God the serpent told the woman by eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil You can get You can have knowledge like God you can be equal equality equal with God and Now the woman thinks she is God. I decide who lives or dies. That's the abortion Scree that you always hear I decide who lives or dies That's that's women thinking that they're God and they can decide to kill the baby or not It's a woman's choice. It's her body. It's not her body It belongs to the one who made it or she thinks Susan Angel and the man treats her like a God And so it's an attack on men And it's not just that women are emotional they and men too men get this female minded mindset of Going after knowledge. They're intellectuals Um, they get puffed up They both both women and the female minded men women who follow satan, right? And female minded men they get puffed up on knowledge and think that they're God They turn everything upside down and you see that in in life today things are upside down wrong is right right is wrong good is evil evil is good and The christians are getting run over and marginalized by the some of the worst people in the world Um, and people get away with it in good times while they're young We have we're prospering. We're rich. We're a rich country, especially here in america But everyone is suffering underneath it um So women are emotional but intellectual and intellectualism isn't is a form of emotionalism. You'll find that intellectual people are some of the most emotional people as well And so they're constantly arguing In this intellectual way against what's right constantly challenging what's right and rationalizing evil We've seen it over the past decades making gay. Okay When um calling wrong right and right wrong Women are the first to support their children going lgbt iq They're the first generally to initiate divorce women are They're the first to feel sorry for the violent criminals who are um as though they're the victims And so men are not leading and so society is getting turned upside down And so this attack on men is Is hurting the women and the children Um now that men are weak because we've had generations of this going on where women are raising the children Men are acting like men may be married may may be in the home But they're weak and so the women may be pretending like she's letting the man lead letting the man lead But it's not reality. So the children are growing up weak. They're getting brainwashed in school or on social media Uh, they're turning away from their parents Women run the show even when the father is there gotta ask the boss You'll often hear the man say so men are part of this attack on men on their on themselves even because uh They may think that they're saying it facetiously. Oh, she's the boss Barack Obama himself said it and you'll hear even christians say this but in reality that's reality Um, like I said, she'll let the man think he's he's leading but he's not and once the men get reduced to nothing The women and children are easily misled by evil And which pretends to be good evil is pretending to be good and it's fooling a lot of people right now Um, this anti trump hate some of the fronts on the war on men is this anti trump hate Trump is hated primarily because he's a man. He tells The truth as he sees it stands on it and Shows courage in the face of attack from anywhere and he'll treat everybody the same He will treat you He doesn't care if you'll he looks racist or sexist If you're wrong or you're going after him He's going after you and he's a man and they hate hate that about him abortion I mentioned abortion part of the war on men Letting the woman decide to kill the man's baby very often Although sometimes evil men will pressure the woman to have an abortion very often Maybe more often the woman will kill the man's baby without the man having any right This domestic violence hype that you hear about all the time that it's always blaming all the man And nothing nothing no risk no sense of responsibility for the women and That again, it's undermining The happiness of both divorce like I said Most divorce divorce is a form of equality. God hates divorce Women are initiating the divorces at 70 or 80 percent of the time and that is Leaving the men without their children at one time men had their children We even when the there was a divorce or Or whatever would happen the men got the children. That's no longer the case This education thing education is geared towards girls now And it's catering to their egos and the boys are being diagnosed with add and It's not cater. It's not geared toward boys toward basic truth toward common sense it's geared toward ego and Social justice and all this other fake stuff Pornography the gay agenda the transgender thing all of these things are Game aimed at emasculating the men um Women voting that equality stuff Men are supposed to lead so that is a part of that attack on men And it's hurting everyone. Um professional sports has turned so female Um Hollywood is making men look like clowns which they these guys are these actors are the commercials are clowning the men alcohol Is I I from what I understand even beer is estrogenic and this pot stuff. It's just debilitating men this mental health Push vulnerability and toxic masculinity type talk all of that is just Reminding common sense and manhood and so men are turning into the little girls and it's a shame All right. Thanks so much for that opening hake and we are going to kick it over to carissa But before we do let me just say If you guys are just joining we are talking about is there a war on men Thanks so much hake for your opening carissa There we go Sorry about that. Um, thank you so much converse for hosting and hake Thank you for this discussion. Um, I'm very excited for it. Um So my position on this subject is that um There's not a war on men because I view a war as intentional in some way While I do feel like there are elements of our society that are destructive toward men Um, I would not say that that's something that at least is being intentionally pushed by any social majority Um, obviously, I do think that there are going to be Some people as there always are who are massage. Um, I guess misandrist, right? Um, and I would 100 percent think that's wrong. Um, I do not believe that that's I guess indicative of the overall society Um, just to kind of go over some of the things that hake brought up Um I find it's interesting and I I don't want this to get too much off track But I feel like with racism A common argument is oh well racism can't really exist because um Because we have some black people who have gone very very far Um, and I'm not exactly sure how that argument squares with the arguments that Sexism against men exists when men are predominantly Um going very very far at least in a social way. Um, but I also understand that um They do 100 face more like social issues. Um, and I I think that's a problem that needs to be addressed um another thing that I found interesting from From you is that it seems like Masculine means like the the ideal man how you view the ideal man um The biblical standard for for men. Um, and it's used in a very positive late, which is like I understand that but For feminine it seems like that is used in the negative connotation of female Where the bible has a lot of good things to say about like about womanhood and what a good woman would look like So I'm I am curious about um The differentiation there in the presentation of masculinity and femininity um On to what is um Yeah, what is uh, I'm sorry. I guess I already went over that um, one thing I I do um I'm not sure about Is the idea of trump being Uh an ideal man. Um, I would love to kind of talk about um what in your opinion makes him an ideal man and um Some of the components there It seems like you bring up things like strength and honesty But trump was rated by multiple fact sites as being like the worst liar of the year Even in his last speech as president. He um, there were like four lies. I actually have up here. I can I can say those those lies. He said that He passed the largest tax cuts in history, which was a lie That the u.s economy during his tenure was the greatest in united states history Which was a lie that he achieved Record job creation, which is a lie that his administration rebuilt both the u.s military and american manufacturing industry Which was a lie And that he destroyed the isis caliphate, which was a lie so there's like Four or five lies right there that were literally just in his last speech as president So i'm not really sure where like the standard of because I agree like truth and honesty is a good standard for men and women So i'm not sure why that makes That that standard applies to him or why even that's a masculine trait When it comes to divorce I I also it was understanding your perspective with women and she eating it. Um, I think that's a good conversation to have And beyond that I would like to get into this conversations Is that okay if I ask a question or would you like to respond to anything? Well before you started, let me just say to the audience We're going to go for about 30 to 40 minutes, uh, or so in an open discussion And then we're going to go to a q and a so if you have questions feel free to tag me My name is right under on the screen here. Uh, you can tag me and I'll be in the chat If not, I may not see your question because there's so many people on here tonight So uh tag me when you have a question and you guys go ahead Uh, either way I can I can Start responding to some of the things you brought up or you can uh, you can ask your question Go ahead. Go ahead responding. Okay. So your first one of your early points was that Yeah, there may be A form of Feeling like it's a war on men, but it's not intentional Um, one of the things that they say about so-called racism I say racism and sexism do not exist at all And so when I say there's a war on men, I don't think it's a sexist war um evil Evil is like very clever and I think that people may not know What they're doing the people themselves may not know what they're doing. They might Um, but effectively evil is going after the men um Satan got to the man by way of the woman And that's what he's doing to this day So it's not that it has to be um A woman who hates men May not Necessary or a man who hates men So-called man May not necessarily be know what they're doing or be as clever as they as You and I might think that that the results are Or would it imply but it's definitely still happening. It's a spiritual battle of good versus evil and it's A targeting the men because men naturally are the protectors and leaders spiritually Do you feel like women are targeting men when you say evil? Men women are targeting men and evil men are targeting men I got you. So do you feel like there's like a positive femininity? Oh, yeah, you brought up What would a good woman look like why why did I describe men as good and women as evil? um Knowing her place knowing her role um Being submissive being obedient uh Not trying to lead or compete with the man um Having babies not not being resentful not being stressed out Um not being so too annoying or obnoxious not having an ego um Listening and being willing to be corrected There's people think that men are so egotistical, but they don't realize that the women are even more egotistical so so from what you described to me, it seems like You're asking women to kind of walk on on a shelves per se because We don't want to um Like put down the husband or we we can't compete with him etc etc It seems to me that that's putting men in a place of Uh weakness instead of strength or well she she can't compete, but she's trying to And it's not working out for her very well, and it's not working out for the men very well So no, I don't want them walking on eggshells, but they should be quiet more often They shouldn't concern themselves with politics or decisions about or or even honestly public health It's been really bad for when this Uh pandemic scare It's made it's been so counterproductive all of these measures um So it's I don't want them on eggshells, but I also don't want them Oh Nor do I want them brash You know women will pretend to be meek and humble and quiet But yet underneath it, you know like guys will you guys will often think oh I want an asian wife who's submissive, but no underneath it They're all the same It's it's they have to do you have to overcome the evil in them So I understand so it's interesting because I think from my understanding you're kind of categorizing humility is like a positive feminine role Is that right? um Yeah, that's that is a positive thing for both men and women to to be I think trump is an example of humility as well But in a masculine way Gotcha. Yeah So is there is there a reason why you feel like When you are talking about men and like, you know Men are supposed to be these like paradigms of truth, etc. Etc. But but women, right? The because like how do you how do you I guess square that with in the beginning? God created man and woman after his own image. So both of them are created in God's image So how can one be framed as being evil? And the other be framed as being good when they're supposed to compliment each other to make up the the I guess the essence of God It's more that men are supposed to be closer to God men are supposed to be the head of the woman Right now the woman is the head of the man and and because she's listened to satan It's satan is leading the way and the woman is following close behind and the man is Seeking after the woman. So it's just inverted Because they're not equal When you say man and man and woman are both made in God's image That doesn't mean that they're equal. There's no such thing as equal equality One one leads the other and right now it's it's the wrong one is leading Okay, so, um I got just so Do you think that men have played? Um substantially played any role Poor role to have this type of dynamic come about Yeah, definitely adam adam listens to the woman and to this day men are listening To the woman are listening to satan in their imagination because he's He's in both of them satan is in both of them But you don't feel like that's characteristic of masculinity No, that's not actual masculinity nor is it actual femininity. It's just a it's I call it a female mindset because it's not normal for men to be so illogical And emotional But it is a little bit more normal and understandable for a woman to be that way But the man helps her along the way, but right now they're both lost. It's blind leading the blind So I have a question for you if a study came out that showed that women and men were equally as rational Um, but they might like just express it in different ways. Is that something that you would believe? I mean, it depends on what they mean by rational and what they Expressing it in different ways. I don't tend to believe studies and all that stuff though Because those are made by intellectuals and intellectuals are liberals and liberals lie A female mind of people. Well, what's in your mind? Nothing would change my mind because I can just see reality you know, um when you The things that I listed off like is it rational to be believing supporting this uh lgbt iq thing or the abortion and Or the progressivism Um Ever since women have been voting The country has gotten progressively worse and fallen into evil Is there any place in the bible that says that women shouldn't vote or have? Um, that type of role in society. Yeah, they're they're not supposed to be leading. They're not supposed to lead Head over a man. It is leading. It's leading the direction of the country into hell Well, the well with voting making decisions on Society that's the leading so I can understand like being in politics But voting is is more like a group collective group of like what is the will of the people, right? Why does why does she want to cancel Her her man's vote What makes you think she's cancelling them? She could be adding another vote to his Sometimes that happens but by and large women are voting very liberal. They do get better when they get married But uh, no, that's if anything the men are starting to vote more like the women What makes you say that if you don't trust statistics? I didn't say I don't trust statistics. I just said You don't know that you don't know that that's happening You don't know that this is happening that women are by far more liberal Yeah, so I agree I would say as a collective group that women are more liberal But I would also say that it's far more likely that a woman is going to be voting in this Support the same at least party that her husband is if you're looking by household right once they're once they're married But they're not getting married now or even I mean, I would say even partners I'd be very surprised if there was data that showed that but she's not following the man That doesn't mean that she's following the man Oh, so my only point is saying that is I don't think that's it's fair to say it's negating it or leading in any way it definitely is like like um John dr. John are a lot junior who's an honest guy who does who's looked at statistics um, he's a phd crime research dot org he um He did this study. It was very famous that showed ever since women started voting. We've gotten more and more um As they say so-called progressive And that's that's us drifting into evil Do you think that the fact that women were given the right to vote in itself was more progressive and maybe that It was already heading in that direction And it's just yeah, it's a shame that men fell for that lie Yeah, but what makes you say it's the it's the woman because if it's already heading in a in a progressive decision Uh direction and that means that the men were listening to the women who wanted to vote And they should never have listened to the women makes what makes you does it do you have anything to prove that? That it was from the women women were voting women were doing women's suffrage votes for women And the men clearly listened to the women because they voted to let women vote Some men wait Do you think that men could also be advocating for that as well? Of course evil female minded men Listen to the women. Yeah, um, it's just it seems like I feel like you're kind of It's You're picking and choosing which studies you would you would believe You should they're coming shouldn't you shouldn't you be emotional Because I feel like you're coming at things have you have you named one study that I have rejected you've just you came up with an imaginary study No, I asked if I were to give you a study that's that said that women and men were um, at least proportionally rational That even that you said that that one Nothing would convince you otherwise right because look at reality though. What would what do you have you seen such a study though? Yeah I can I had I don't have a pulled up, but I do know the one exists And so what would you say is rational about Why what about being liberal? Well, what's because he said because women are more liberal than men We agreed that women and men are different. They think differently clearly and so Are you asking why that is? Yeah, why what's rational about being liberal if women are clearly more liberal so my guess of why Women are more liberal and obviously this I'm not 100 familiar of why but you tend to see that more marginalized communities Whether that that be women or and I think that that's tightening a little bit Or racial minorities they tend to vote a little bit more liberal more recently because Because either they they have been in a place of feeling I guess marginalized and so they have like they are able to feel a little bit more empathy um I don't think that means they're more emotional I feel like if guys were put in the exact same place and they were marginalized I I don't I'm not convinced that there's anything intrinsic to men That would have a different result right so if like we had a matriarchy I would assume that men would be a little bit more progressive I think that's fair And I mean I'm sure that not all women vote the way that they do out of a rational way and same with men, right Um, I just I don't know. It's just weird when you're saying that like women are more emotional But then you have an opinion that it's not going to be able to change by any evidence But the none of what you just said is evidence at all because I wasn't giving you evidence, right? But none of none of it is even even describes Why it's logical to be why it's logical or rational to be liberal you just described victimhood because So-called marginalized communities feel like they're Feel like they're being oppressed And so they want daddy government to take over instead of the man Instead of men leading their families, right? I'm not so I'm not my goal in saying that you asked like, you know Why women would be voting that way and I my point in saying that is that I don't think it's intrinsic to women I feel like if men Had a similar situation or were socialized in a similar way as to women. I would assume that they would be They would be voting in different ways So I don't think I think that you can be republican or democrat and be rational Oh I would say either one. I know many republicans that I see as being rational and then I see many many democrats If you define like rationality as like being able to factor things into your decision making and And make you know, whatever decision Through a chain of logic. I think That's how unless you have a different definition is logic. Yeah, so this is why this is why rational is of a deceiving word I guess because um Like I said at the opening women and female minded males You know the fallen state female, right? Um They are very not just emotional but intellectual. They will rationalize evil They will rationalize it will come into Through logical steps that you can follow to to pretend that wrong is right Like gay is okay that we need to Replace the fathers with the government or replace the the provider as as the government or whatever and Have have women working and all that stuff So you can you can claim that women are rational, but that doesn't mean that they're logical Or supporting what's right So I think there's a they're not following god's they're not following god's logic So would you agree there's a difference between morality and rationality? Um, when you say it like that, of course not because you can rationalize like I said rationalizing all kinds of wrongdoing with with So-called logical steps, but that's So definitely being logical and rational in the godly sense Is not what women are So if you're not a christian, what's the rational reason to I don't know if we want to get into that? um So so I I understand what you're saying. I guess my question would be um So, um Still though, I feel like I feel like rationality Obviously not everyone is fully 100 percent Um rational in every in every aspect, but I would say that Rationality, um, and I mean you even see that within the church. You don't have like there's christians and probably that um You respect or agree with that disagree on some things that doesn't mean one's rational and the other one's not There's all of course. There's ultimate truth but people do come from different perspectives and um Sometimes they might be wrong, but they might be rational to get to that point still. Would you agree with that? For sure So, I guess my thing is like you can make a bad decision and still be rational Yes, definitely. Why would you say that women making a bad decision to be liberal is proof that they're not rational I mean, I'm just saying that women aren't meant to lead. They are they don't tend to make good decisions They don't handle power well. They get an ego kick. They get an ego trip. They feel sorry for the wrong people They punish the innocent they punish the the um The like the police who are enforcing the law, especially when they're doing it, right? Um, they They Are jealous and undermining and challenging of men like trump and joe arpaio and all those guys it's such a we have such a Female minded, especially the mainstream media and the establishment Um, you know, both the rhino republicans and the democrats most republicans are rhinos And in the church, it's infected the church big time The men are beaten down And and quiet and then the the women kind of are taking the lead Does that answer your question? I lost talk about your question. I understand. Um, the other question I guess I had was um for So I think you kind of said that intellectual being intellectual is inherently Um, emotional and I I would agree to an extent because I think like the social sciences Art a lot of that type of a lot of like the more artistic fields. Um They tend to prioritize emotion emotionality. I don't necessarily think I'm not particularly an emotional person. Um I mean, I am an emotional person, but I don't really make decisions based off off of my emotion. I think, um But I I also didn't go into I went into like a STEM major So I think that's kind of where I'm I'm wondering for academia Um, you have these like provable or at least as close as we can get Um ways of of interacting with our society and our environment, which is like empirical, right? That we all accept to some some extent Um, like we go across the bridge and we're okay with going across the bridge because We trust the architect. Um, so like every single day, we're trusting some version of intellectualism Um, but that's not intellectualism. That's that's Building and engineering. That's not being an intellectual. Yeah, mathematics is not intellectualism When you try to solve your problems by going into your mind your life problems or make decisions on the direction of society by going into your mind and looking at studies and And pretending that you don't know that wrong is wrong and right is right That's that's what I mean by intellectualism. Do you think studies are proven through mathematics? Yeah, they are but what are the what's the um The judgment of what those studies are saying and the factors that they're bringing in and the um and the all of these different things are not come they're not come to by honest means And that's the that's where the coming up with how to go about a study that that requires Wisdom and most people conducting studies nowadays. They lack wisdom They're all ego Um, do you think that's that's fixed at all by the fact that it's that most of the studies that are cited are like peer reviewed So no, it's not no, it's not fixed by the fact that they're peer reviewed because We have like a whole culture. You'll notice that the culture is becoming more corrupt and they're I mean we have um we have For example, like the The climate situation the climate uh crisis if you will um, there is a culture that will clamp down on certain certain Challenges if you will to the narrative and although the um the rigorous people The more rigorous people may know that it's not all that the media is hyping it to be They're not they're not getting the word out. They're not able to get the word out because the media the politicians and the um governing bodies And also the scientists who are getting funded In this way by having it be a crisis, you know that there is a a corrupting influence on um On what gets promoted from from these studies and in the studies themselves I okay. I understand what you're saying. Um, so I guess so my my question would be um, if you have something like um gendered rationality, right? um and if like And so with that with that you're gonna have generally speaking for a study you're gonna have a control group. You're gonna have um You're gonna have Multiple tests that men and women can both look at and those tests would probably be described in depth within the study um What makes you think that Like or just even write off a study just saying like hey This isn't done right when you haven't like looked at this at the study Like what makes you so confident that the study is wrong If you haven't seen it if because if it's saying that women are just as rational as men in that they're making Just as good of decisions as men We see reality that that's clearly not the case, but we agree that that's not that's not morality Right, we agree that rashity that you can be rational and arrive at different conclusions And one of them might right in in which case in which case your study your study's conclusion is moot So no not necessarily because you can measure rationality and in trains of logic within um A context outside of social environments, right? So you can say like for example, you can say like, oh, we know this premise um, we know this um This statement is also true than what is inferred in the conclusion, right? So that's like one way of measuring someone's rationality Is can they arrive at a conclusion for multiple premises? There's going to be multiple other ways of doing that Um, but there is one of course there is going to be one answer Now you can say that like well, there's different types of rationality and maybe One of the men are just as rational and those types of things but not as rational and like social stuff I mean look at the results. I i'm a little confused You being a you're a christian, right? um Kind of I'm like a christian agnostic. Okay. Well, i'm confused why you're trying to argue this point because I've shown that I've shown that from my perspective men are supposed to lead and I've shown how women leading has been Quite different from the way that men even even the weak men would lead so um And I don't know what you if you support the you know the different things that Are wrong that the women are quicker than the men to support But the results are quite clear Any of your studies notwithstanding Mm-hmm. So I guess my only What I was confused about is I tend to view a core I guess a pillar element of rationality that your mind can be changed, right? Whenever I'm going into like a situation or an argument I'd like to think hey, these are the things I could convince me otherwise And that's like what I kind of hold the the level I hold myself to when it comes to like rationality So it is surprising to me when I hear someone say Oh, I wouldn't I know that beyond shadow of a doubt that that study is wrong because I can tell from okay, and see and that sounds like a very emotional argument to me Oh, okay. I see Well, I don't know that that study is wrong But I don't think that that study is saying anything pertinent To rebut anything that I have said. Okay Um, okay. So would you mind if we move on to like trump? Yeah, definitely Um, because I think he's an interesting person before we do Before we do let me just say you guys we're going to go for about another 15 20 minutes depending on you know, how long it takes to to go into trump here All right, we're talking about Is there a war on men? And if you have questions and you just joined us you can tag me at converse contender My name's right below here And I will get to your question If you want to get it to the top of the list you can sit in a super chat and if you're thinking Wow, I really like this person or that person Well, their links will be in the description if they're not already so you can check them out. All right. Sorry you guys go ahead Um, thank you um What would you say the Best manly characteristics of trump are? Uh by far his honesty his directness his boldness um the And his consistency over time He has told the truth and that's why he's been hated You listed off some things that were supposedly lies. Some of those are Some of those I would hardly say are lies. You could call them the greatest economy You could call it an exaggeration. Maybe record job creation. It may have been a record of of some term Um rebuilding the military and manufacturing that's without question That some manufacturing has brought has returned some Some rebuilding of the military definitely did happen. He spent a lot of money on the military um isis destroyed isis was pretty much, uh I don't know it it was a big story under obama and not such a big story under trump So I think that those things whatever website and passed passed the largest tax cuts He passed some decent tax cuts And those aren't even those are like piddly little Things that this is what the liberal media does is is nitpick about these things when they don't care The truth or falsehood of of these things he told big truths about the the um Big picture of what's going on in this country Where the establishment is against the people the mainstream media is the enemy of the people We need to um, we need to get a hold of our immigration situation um and uh His opening speech they're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime their rapists and some I assume are good people That was 100 true, but they said oh no, that's that's a lie. They're not oh Rapist he said they're all rapists. That's not it. It's not a true statement. He didn't say they're all rapists He said they're rapists. That doesn't mean all but when uh, but that's that's the typical deception of the liars calling the Calling the truth teller a liar So trump was bold and he stood on that He took a lot of heat when he told the truth about what happened in charlotte'sville violence on many sides And very fine. It was I felt that it was a bit too gracious to the left saying very fine people on both sides of the argument about whether we should be removing monuments so um He told the truth from beginning to end By and large you can nitpick about small things that don't matter little uh factoids about oh, it wasn't technically the largest Uh crowd or all that stuff But these people are liars and deceivers. There's some some of the worst people in the world And they're responsible for a great division in this country by way of the lies of racism and sexism and all that stuff so No, trump trump told the truth and he was a man who Didn't care who you were he was going after you he even called this black woman racist. He called this black npr lady I think if she was an npr at the time Uh, woman who asked him a question. That's such a racist question. So it was just So refreshing and when it was him against the republicans, he was a man among boys He made all those he just exposed. I used to like ted cruise. He exposed ted cruise whom I fell for before at earlier as just a A phony politician So it was it it was uh inspiring Um So I yeah, I can understand that. Um, I don't want to get into like the technicalities of right of If he was honest or not, um, because I don't know What about the big picture things? So yeah, so that's that's what I was going to ask about. Um So I understand that you're kind of seeing him as like oh a bold figure Who tells like large scale truths to people as a society that's not willing to listen That's kind of what I got you forgot from you. Is that right the society The society the people who supported trump and there were people who kind of awakened from the truth that he told um They it was like the the boy who said the emperor is not wearing any clothes It was finally we had a politician who told the truth and didn't apologize for it Because we've had politicians slip and say something true and they'll be like, oh, I didn't say that Oh, I apologize. So yeah, he society much of society welcomed it like they they voted him in and um But yeah, there's a there's a large part of the establishment definitely rejected him and the and the suckers rejected him too So do you think uh, maybe a big part of why women might not have liked him was because of how he's handled stuff with women? Yeah, they can they have women tend to fall for Uh accusations and emotional things like that Yeah, they tend to fall for that stuff. All right. They tend to identify with all women and it's just it's It's so wrong. Um, we had we used to have a culture that was innocent and less proven guilty and we had a culture that Um Uh, it didn't really matter what you said it mattered what you did and how you were And how he is is just real a genuine uh Treats people right But then when you hear stuff Oh, you're it works the imagination. That's why the me too movement went out of control so, um, would you say that the verse in the bible you see I Would take it that you would agree that When it says in matthew five But I say into you that everyone who looks at a woman with less full intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart Do you think that's true? Yeah, definitely. Um, and would you say anyone who Who would do that and not apologize is like adulterous Um anyone who would even apologize for it is adulterous doesn't change it whether they're apologizing or not Yeah, so there's a transcript here and we actually have the The clip of this it's a radio interaction between trump and what year? It's a good question This is from 2016 that it was at least uploaded it might not have been Could have been a hit piece from years before No, I mean he they have him actually Saying it in 2016. I don't know if it was 20. That's what I'm saying 2016 is when they were doing hit pieces because they saw that he was running for president They uploaded it You said you said it was uploaded in 2016 You know said you don't know with when he said it Well, so we actually have like the audio of him saying it though I know but you said you don't know when he said it doesn't matter Yeah, it matters when he said it because uh Because he did stuff he may have done stuff in 2005 and the 90s and all that stuff But that has no bearing on what he is today or what he was when he ran for office But he would be in a daughter, correct Who's not Everyone who's looked at a woman lustfully find me a man who hasn't looked at a woman lustfully and is And king david looked at a woman lustfully and he killed a man over it and he was a man after god's own heart Do you think um Can I would you mind if I read this? Yeah, go for it. So basically donald trump said Um, and you don't know when I can find it here Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't to me. It's not a huge huge deal of when I don't know you judge him regardless for his no, I'm not I don't I'm so first off I don't think that or you you justify the women judging him So I think there's a reason for that, right? So, um Very biblically, it's a very clear standard that god has that Men should treat women with respect when it comes to Um, their sexuality, etc. I don't think it says that Well, it says in in Women men should not be having sex out of wedlock for sure fornication is wrong and adultery is wrong But I don't know about this. Men should treat women with respect. I think it says the the other way around Well, I should love the the wife the man should love the wife and the man the woman should respect the husband Well, it's just there is a verse that says that you should submit to each other Right, but that he never said men should respect the woman. Um, that might that those words might not have um Yeah, I that wasn't really a quote. That's a big that's I bring that point up because I'm sorry to interrupt You're saying what trump said but trump said has said I cherish women and hillary was like hillary clinton She's all we don't want you to cherish women We want you to respect women and that's such a that's a typical inversion of of uh what things are What's going on today men are being so disrespected in the culture slapped around And by the women And in public And the man can't you can never hit a woman and all that stuff men or can't even defend themselves Yeah, but it's a separate issue, but it's part of the war on men And it's part of you know the destruction of society. Go ahead. Right. So I would agree to an extent that um I would agree that there has been some toxic femininity To use a feminist term Even you but you but even women who are not considered to be toxic they And men will bring up this respect women thing. So You've brought up language In your in your discussion about marginalized communities uh respect women all of these things And uh racism and sexism all of these things are victim words That satan has fed into Women and men who listen to satan or listen to the to the poor victims, you know, so what I'm saying respect women I'm not saying I'm I'm saying Specifically within the context of sexual relations, right? So in the bible it's it is very clear about not raping women. Um, to not touch them Without their consent it says even in the bible when they talk about separation it says you should not um When you separate it should be a mutual consent, etc, etc So it's it is clear that you're not supposed to be raping people Um mutual consent is about not having sex So do you think rape is okay? No, but are you are you actually going to pretend that trump was legitimately Accused of rape Well, I mean, I guess the audience can can safer themselves. I think it's all for that, did you No, so so I I know that women did because they're emotional and they jump to conclusions about About without evidence, right? Women listen to their imaginations with just satan and they'll Believe something without any evidence at all. That's why the me too movement went out of control And that's why a lot of women and males fell for these different accusations against trump So generally speaking I I feel like accusations And those types of things are more valuable on a on a broader scale because you are able to collect data on Um, generally how many people? Um, don't report rapes because you have many different ways of collecting that. Um Where they're not even like identifying they have like nothing to gain from it, right? So you those are typically a little bit more. Um A little more Um, acceptable within like stats, etc Um, I understand that we live in a society where you are innocent until proven guilty and I think that does That does apply to trump legally. Um, am I concerned just in common decency? I'm not just talking about legally Well, I'm so yeah, I think anytime that someone is saying, um, that someone else assaulted them as a cause for concern, right? Um, I don't think that means that we should automatically, you know throw the guy in jail or something Um, I think but I think there is a need for Due process and there is there is a need for Taking both parties seriously Um, but to me this is again to get to this Um, we have it on tape of him saying, you know and and the person says she used to be great She's still very beautiful. Trump says I moved on I moved on her actually, you know Just she was down on palm beach. I moved on her and I failed. I'll admit it the unknown person says, whoa Trump says I did try and fuck her. She was married unknown person says that's huge news Trump says no, no, Nancy No, this was We don't know what he said. It was unintelligual and I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out Furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture and I said, I'll show you where they have nice furniture Um, I moved on her like a bitch But I couldn't um get there and she was married then all of a sudden I see her and she Now she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look Billy Bush said She's your girl's hottest shit in the purple. Trump says, whoa, whoa Bush says yes, the donald has scored. Whoa my man Trump says look at you. You are a pussy Trump also says All right, you and I will walk out and then Trump says That's her with the gold. I better use some tic-tacs just in case I start kissing her You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful and I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss I don't even wait and when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything See that's consent Okay, so when he said that was from 2005 that billy bush tapes were from 2005 I didn't know that that was all one conversation. So he says grab him by the pussy. You can do anything Yeah, he says those legs like all I can say is legs So et cetera et cetera and then um, it goes on you're a star. They let you do it Are you? Yeah, so that's by definition. That's not so called rape or it's not consent That's for sure. And also sometimes it's clearly it is because Women oftentimes no means yes All kinds of different things go on in in this sex this fallen state sex so-called sex world Women will women will play games men will play games He was an immoral man in his past And again, that was from 2005 very different from 2016. What makes you think he's changed? What makes you think he hasn't what makes you think that he's why should he apologize? Because as you said, who should you apologize to? I think he should apologize number one to the the person the woman that he was making the remarks about and number two He should apologize to making to he so I think one of the things that conservatives had had correct is that The president whether or not we like it or not serves as some type of a moral paradigm where We saw this this was like the big criticism of of um, clinton, right when he was an adulterer And In office and he lied about it. Mm-hmm in office Yeah, my concern at least I know a lot of christians concerns were saying it was especially the fact that he Uh was a doctor was an adulterer, right? So I I think that is something that Number one here for a lot of women Who have been sexually assaulted in the past, etc. What he described was not sexual assault so, um I think that's it. That's an ander christen cooperism So so technically from a legal distinction if he's if he says he doesn't wait Um, if he says that I'll I'll just do it There's also other clips of him When he was with like in a beauty pageant, right? He owned a beauty pageant and there were girls who were underaged Um, like 16 and 17 and he would go in the back when they were dressing and he um, also even Um, now you're just saying gossip. You're just saying gossip and rumors. He was calling tape You're just saying stuff. You're just throwing out stuff. I mean you can look it up They would have they would have hammered him so hard on being a pedophile had had that been the case No, this is 100 true. No. No, I'm telling you you're just following you've fallen for it Okay, I mean I heard it because you're saying oh technically this is sexual assault But that was a he should not app first of all he should not apologize to whichever woman he was talking about And this was a it was her private comments caught on a hot mic And they released 11 11 years later that it was released as a hit piece and There is no indication that he's like that today Or well, like he that he was like that in 2016 This is part of the men will women will never forgive men For having cheated or anything. He will never live it down Women women don't forgive women don't have um, a logical mind And female minded males too. They're so hypocritical The way that people talk the way that women talk themselves Is vulgar and dirty and the way that they talk and think same thing with all the men who are Acting all uppity. Oh trump is an immoral adulterer. He did he just he admitted to sexual assault It's so phony Well, I'm sorry for being male minded there with my vulgarity. I apologize. Um, but generally speaking, I feel like It's hard to apologize to forgives. Well, so first off, I don't know if we can say that we've that That people have forgiven the only person that he wronged If he wronged anybody was Melania and that was alleged and that was alleged So, um, I would say that you know, and she stood by him. Why if she's standing by him Who isn't forgiving him then? The people who don't even have anything to hold against him Okay You have no reason to like Who are you to forgive? anybody Like he didn't know like he did no wrong to you You know what I mean? But but the women are very judgmental. Like I said, they will they will listen to all this gossip and lies Oh, this could be believable. They would think there's something to this. Hey, I have to find out more evidence So no, but you didn't give me evidence. You gave me a quote Hey, let's give Carissa just a minute to finish her thoughts and then we'll get right to you so the um, just to to say the The beauty pageant thing it was called. I actually I had listened to it I I was thinking that this was the same thing, but I it was the wrong thing So that to clarify was not caught on on radio. That was a tape Um, but there is one that is actually caught on radio of him talking and he of course didn't actually say that um There were underaged girls. Um, he has said that So but people but we do have records that there were underaged girls. Um But what does that mean that he that he was auguling them or assaulting them? There's this is I'm not saying he's assaulting them. Um, or even auguling them. You have no idea Generally, so we do know for a fact That girls were saying that they were they felt very uncomfortable when girls will say that And this everything that you're describing is part of the attack on men really you're just proving my point But this is like on a biblical level. It says no, it's not nothing that you nothing that you ladies are judging trump on Is biblical bed It says in the in the bible keep the marriage by pure, right? They are saying in the bible that all adulterers Are terrible people they they even say that that adulterers adulteries like the one thing Strictly from a fundamentalist christian perspective and which god allows for for divorce, which he says is Is like the greatest the the what pains his heart the most, right? What god has put together not let do not let any man and draw us under right? So he does not hear so from my perspective from a biblical perspective at least not even from my perspective But theologically a man and a woman represent god and the church right and the union between them And that union Even from like a very strict like fundamentalist perspective is not supposed to be broken So if god is saying that adultery is something is is enough for for divorce to happen then And he has also said adultery is wrong and he has also spoken out very harshly against adulterers I think it's fair for people to be concerned about an adulterer um And someone who has has potentially and again, it's not proven right but potentially don't fall for that Go for it. Well, so I'm let's start wrapping up here. Maybe the next five minutes or so and then You know, let's just do like a little you guys start just wrapping up And then what I'll do is I'll give you guys each just like a couple of minutes to Kind of give your closing thoughts before we go into q&a That sounds good. Um All I'm saying is that it seems like trump is in my opinion the antithesis Of what what the bible outlines of a as a god, maybe not the antithesis, but pretty close to it um The bible says that you should be meek the meek inherit the kingdom of heaven. Um, there's also passages where the bible says that um That you should it says but the fruit of the spirit is love joy peace for forgiveness kindness faithfulness and self-control um There are also places where he says like rulers right rulers are going to be um Um Blessed by peace and they're going to so they are going to be praised and surrounded good rulers will be blessed by peace um, so it's just like none of these things are like good news for trump He in my opinion and again, that's going to be up up to the audience but there are many cases when um, he at least fudges things to have a heavy extent to push his narrative Which I feel like is deceitful, um, which is also against god's commands for for men Or and women right he he is admitting to being trying to be adulterous Which is not good. Um, the old testament would say that that's like grounds for stoning Maybe not for men But I don't know It's just um, it seems like from my perspective These types of scripts that are being encouraged on men are what's hurting them um The female minded versus male minded seems to me like I never use the word male minded Oh, that's right. Maybe it was me. Yep. Um I don't know. I just I don't see There being any reason why trump would be considered to be a good person within the context of the bible And I can understand it strange to me when you are categorizing like people like attacking him is attacking masculinity When bible paints a very different picture of masculinity in a very different light Um, you see jesus even weeping in the bible Um, and if men showing their emotion is feminine that I guess jesus is feminine, but maybe that's not a bad thing How often did you see jesus weeping? It's quite a few times Quite a few times. Yeah, it says it once Um, no, there's multiple times where he said and he what he he was he wept with Um, when john was killed Um, I don't think it ever said that it did not say that Nope, it only said he it only said jesus wept when uh, the people were blind About lazarus. Oh, if you hadn't been here, uh, my brother wouldn't have died And he he went off by himself And trump is very meek trump is very Straightforward and honest king david himself who was a man after god's own heart. He committed adult He lusted he committed adultery. He killed the man who um Who uh Was the who he whose wife it was And yet he was And he paid for that and trump has paid for that and he's paying for it to this day with all kinds of family issues But trump said when he was being interviewed Uh before he was elected to office I've had some bad things in my past and we're not going to talk about those. Okay, and so That's that's good enough for me Because he's not because he's not so that is honest He's not he's not acting like he's like he's You'll notice that this grab him by the p word thing and all that stuff That's it everybody all the evil people are repeating you never heard trump say that when he was in office. That was from 2005 We have no idea whether he's said that again. Do you think god is beyond time? But this is irrelevant to whether he should be president whether he became a man I'm not saying i'm not saying that no, it's whether it's irrelevant to whether he's a man because all men especially the powerful men Are Not shy They are and the the shy men would be doing it just as much if they had that power so all these all these weak christian males and female minded women Fallen state female minded women and men Who are going to the bible to justify their jealousy and and hatred of trump and trump's Directness he is a better christian than any of those people who are judging him Because he doesn't judge people a low opinion of men that they would all Be trying to be adulterers That's not what a man is he was not he was not doing right back then But you said that everyone would try to be like him and how he's acting and and everyone would have that opportunity If they have a do you think that there's a man alive who has not lusted in his heart No Then what are you then what are you complaining about? Because it was public right What it was it was a public thing. It was very degrading. It was very objectifying what he had said What he said was not in public that was it had been made public It was a hot mic incident. He didn't make it public. He was talking So it's irrelevant. No Just if i do something wrong if i if i do something against someone right He didn't do anything against me, but he was talking Okay, do you think do you think It says doesn't it say in the bible that that that words can be like sharper than blades, right? Something to that effect words actually matter You guys this yeah, go ahead. Hey, and then we'll we'll wrap up This is this is you going to the bible to justify judging the man So if so i'm not saying i don't i don't know if i don't i don't think anyone should be a paradigm of of manliness I think everyone is going to every man is gonna have flaws every woman's gonna have right I think it's strange too. So then why are you why are you acting like trump is not a man? Because he has has had flaws in his past. I'm acting like he shouldn't be a paradigm of manliness in the way that I didn't say he's a paradigm. I'm saying he's attacked because he is He he is a man and he acted as a man. He was more manly than anybody else In an attack on george floyd was an attack on on a man on manliness The there was no attack on george floyd Okay, what are you talking about? What do you why do you bring that up for i'm so confused It just seems like like um the person that you agree with the person who is how is george floyd attack He was emotional to me um through through state violence No, he was he was being arrested and he asked to be put on the ground because he was overdosing and and getting Uh claustrophobic. He said put me on the ground and he was saying he couldn't breathe even before they got on top of him That's not violence that was a restraint and uh It looks like he overdosed it might have been a little bit of extra stress that they were on top of him But they had to be on top of him. He didn't he wouldn't sit still in the car Maybe they should have just left him to be claustrophobic in that vehicle looking back on it It certainly isn't we have we should be praying for derrick chauvin and all these guys these white police officers and white men who are being railroaded by the state just for the establishment just for um Doing their job. This is part of that female minded attack on uh People who are looking out for their community like the ahmaud arbery case Those men are looking out for their community the mc michaels and roddy bryan They were looking out for their community. They were trying to arrest this guy. He got squirrely He tried he punched the guy tried to grab the guy's gun the guy shot him in self defense But they said oh no, this is murder and it was a hate crime So this is part of the attack on men before we get off topic too much Let's um, let's just take the time to do a little wrap up Hakes since you went first we'll give a chrissa the last word Let's give you like a little like one minute summary of like Is there a war on men? okay All right, I appreciate it great talk chrissa. I enjoyed talking with you and I'm sure we'll have more with the super chats and stuff but um without a doubt There is a spiritual war of good versus evil and it operates through men and women against what's right and there are There are men all men Have had flaws in their past and and all men Have issues that they deal with perhaps even to this day, but um there is a there is a very selective attack That's pretending to be for what's right that infiltrates the mind and the imagination and the um The sense of right and wrong that people feel and It turns you into thinking that you're fighting for justice and for The oppressed and for what's right and correcting problems in societies and inequities and inequalities, but really you're just um an arm of evil and so it's operating in everybody conservatives christians atheists Everybody who is not um Really, I guess born again and then so there's so it's going to be the few um who stand up and kind of set an example that can awaken people I think we need to return to actual love and actual mercy and actual forgiveness If we're going to turn this thing around And actually see real justice return to the to the country Okay, thanks. Thanks so much for that. Hey and carissa will kick out of you for your closing here And then we'll jump straight into q&a because we got a lot of questions Nice right ahead carissa. All right. Thank you. Um So I guess I would say that well, I don't believe that there is um now an outright attack on men I do believe that the standard of keeping your emotions in and keeping everything availed and tied up inside um leads to a A very unhealthy situation where men feel like they are Expected to be powerful expected to be abrasive expected to be all of these things when in reality um There they it's it's a healthy for them to show emotion um And learn how to manage that emotion rather than bottling it up. Um male suicide is very high. It is higher than women's um and um I think one of one of the biggest reasons is because men feel like it's feminine to go and seek help Um men feel like they can't go to other men and say that they need help with something And so they die alone. I think it's sad and I think that that type of scripts of men need to be able to do Um to do it all on their own and bottle everything up. Um Never cry and etc. Um, I think ultimately that's harmful to men and I think it's harmful to society in general um I also think that um I I think it's unfortunate when people who are generally speaking incredible men Um tend to be the ones who are the day to day the day to day fathers the day to day Husbands the day to day sons who love their families who? um Are providing and very very rarely do you see Good strong men Who are leaders because we don't even know if they are good strong men because we only see one side of them um I would I would not want to say that any person whether man or woman is a paradigm of and I'm not saying that you're you're saying this but I would be very hesitant in in attributing the action toward one person as proof of um an action against masculinity or femininity um Because I I think people are very complex and we do not know um We don't know everything about them. Um And I I just don't like the great man politics surrounding it. Um, but yeah, that's pretty much all Okay, thanks so much for that carissa as well. We're going to jump into q&a. We have a lot. So if you do send in something after Uh, just know that we may not be able to get to it because we have so many and it's already 11 o'clock, so Let's get into what we got so far Okay, our first super chat is from Lin yin chin Five ca's. Thank you, Lin The war on men is just the flow of insecurity devouring security security equals in inner stillness and insecurity equals inner noise where doubt causes spiraling Okay, it's more of a comment, but thank you so much for that Sorry, you guys. I don't have my reading glasses. So I'm like squinting, uh, but We have a five dollar super chat from crystal a says hake loves women He tells us the truth and thanks to him and jesse. I'm no longer in hell Thank you your super chat crystal Um Thanks for your 499 super chat says Some Want an asian wife, but underneath they're all the same quotes I think he was quoting you I congratulate hake on finally saying something anti-racist even if it was by accident Can you repeat it? I zoned out. I was looking at the chat. Yes. Sorry Some want an asian wife, but underneath They're all the same Nice nice to hear from you brenton langle He was the guy whom I debated on modern-day debate last time on this issue this question Yeah, I've had a debate with him on here as well. So it's good to see brenton um Mr. Monster, thanks for your um your member chat says do you think it's okay To be a misogynist Are they asking me? Oh, there's no such thing Yeah, I didn't so maybe for both and yeah, some of these simpler questions if you guys just want to Right, you know, we can I don't think there's yeah There's no such thing as the misogyny or mis-injury and all that stuff went all basically all men hate women and And all women hate men Like in a special way and then people just have hatred in their heart and hateful people play favorites And this misogyny thing and racism thing acting like that's the root issue It's really an intellectual way of distracting you from reality which is judgment which Even the people who are judging the misogynist are guilty of even worse than the so-called misogynist follow that Yeah, chris. Do you want to say something as well? Sure, um Yeah, it's not going to be misogynist I think it is important as kind of hate said that there's always going to be implicit bias Where you might uh, not even realize so even some women can have like a Underlying misogyny toward toward women. Um And I think that's going to look different for everything for everyone But I definitely think that it does exist and it's something that we should be mindful of and minimize as much as we can Thank you so much for that. I'm trying to read some of these before I say them So I'm not like Ron Burgundy. Just saying anything. Um nugget man for five CAs is Carissa drink some water stop talking softly. You're not deceiving anyone So I have a shot at you, but it's uh, it's not that bad. So Yeah, I don't mind I like water water is good and so I I speak softly just because I don't know. I always have for the most part. I think generally trauma childhood trauma definitely It's because of my mom we've got uh Our next super chat part of it got cut off. So I'm going to pull it up here. Here it is Okay, so it's from Ryan Gordon Says why are women not attracted to emotional men? A woman will use an emotional man But will not honor a proper marriage to one I think that's a good question. Um So from my perspective and I'm sure he's going to have a slightly different perspective on this But it's interest an interesting fact about People with relationships is that Women tend to feel or actually just people tend to feel loved in the way That their parents were toward them So if you're in a toxic and you know environment growing up and There were issues there you're more likely to gravitate towards someone who is actually a little bit more controlling or toxic Just because that's kind of all you know from like what love looks like, right? So I think generally speaking that's going to be a dynamic Um, I think that is a very unfortunate that that can sometimes happen But I guarantee that many women Um, will appreciate men who are able to handle their emotions in a healthy way Hey, do you want to respond as well? Can you can you read it over one more time? Yeah, it's um Why are women not attracted to emotional men a woman will use an emotional man But will not honor a proper marriage to one Yeah, um Because it's not normal for a man to be emotional Uh, that's why a woman won't respect a man who is emotional um She talked about bottling up emotions and that's not what i'm talking about you you saw trump didn't Bottle up emotions. He was he was just told the truth as he saw it um And reacted and responded but he was never out of control um I think that we have a problem where Women are kind of have a love hate relationship with both the weak men and the strong men in different ways And same thing with the men like what she said, um, you're attracted to what you hate And you're attracted men tend to marry their mothers and the women tend to marry their mothers In the man. What a mess Okay, thanks so much for that. We have a question from joe schwarz $1.99 cents. Thanks so much for that joe Joe ask what is your favorite episode of south park I wasn't I was sheltered. I never watched it Steam Never seen it. All right, great. Sounds like it was a funny show though And it would come to some agreement at some point Lin yin chin five CAs again Rationale or reason is just biased to a given direction Of justification. It's a faulty shading of thoughts Poised as logic minds don't create logic Okay, it sounds like a more like a comment than a question. So Okay, go ahead. Do you want to comment on that? I think it's go ahead make I think it's what he's saying is that it that truth comes from God and so men are led by By truth through what they see to be true rather than figuring it out a lot of times people want to figure out What the way to go is rather than wait and see and when you see you take the step So I would say that That God has created Incredible things for us to find within his universe And I think that includes like biology chemistry Mathematics and a lot of these like rules of reasoning I think that's one of the ways that we can know God is to understand and know his creation Um, and I think that's a huge thing that we we see through the bible a pursuit of knowledge isn't isn't Feminine a pursuit of knowledge is a pursuit of God If done correctly from a Christian perspective, so I would say that logic Of course, you're not going to be in the mind is not going to be making logic The mind is going to be following logic that exists. There are logical rules and a logical Reality is that exists outside of any specific person? But following that logic is something that is unique to humans and something that Um that can get you closer to truth All right. Thanks so much for that you guys We just had somebody in the live chat say I'll super chat 50 bucks right now if you two go on a date together She's married Hey, you like I like Trump but not uh, I don't I don't condone his past Okay I don't think uh hunter. I believe it is would be too happy with that Super chat from nugget man five CAs again Um educated woman I rest my case So got him it got her you guys I will not um, I'm not going to read out like super trollish chats Unless they're like just you know easy going if it's something really bad. I'm not going to read it. Sorry Our next super chat is 10 CAs from best DJ AF Aristotle and many other historically We're pointing out that women and weak men prefer tyrants and tyrants love them and immigrants Because they don't compete with the tyrants Aristotle also said that the philosopher there should be a philosopher king and he's he saw philosophy as the hate of society, so He might be right Jesus Christ is king All right, I'm the only one laughing Yeah, so our next super chat is from brinton lingo again 10 dollar super chat. Thanks for that brinton hake You are begging the question You start by assuming something is evil Then dismiss arguments to the contrary As rationalizing evil It's a circular argument that assumes the answer in the premise Okay. Yeah, for example like Women are or are often falling for the rationalization of of gay being okay, for example um Okay, I grant that I don't know I can't express what is evil about every evil thing All right, and I don't necessarily know I don't know know that even human beings know good from evil Like what like I talked about this with brinton lingo the super chatter um in this in the debate on is there a war on men because One of the the sin of adam and eve or what what we did wrong Was eat from the knowledge of good and evil so this pursuit of knowledge Is knowledge puffs up but love builds up and we need to um I guess that what we should do is not Not rationalize Going out on something that we don't know to be right if you don't know that god supports So-called same-sex marriage. Why do you support it? So that's what I would say to brenton lingo interesting point brenton. Could it be I'm sorry. Can I say something? Yeah Could it be also? um, could the contra positive also be true such that if god has not um Forbidden something we should not as well um Not necessarily Um contra positive man that took me back to freshman year geometry of high school I was 14 years old. Um, and so I forgot what that meant, but No, you don't you don't go You don't say oh, what the heck let's just go loosey goosey with uh with the world and just try this out This same-sex marriage thing. No, you I don't think that you go along with um With and god did condemn it, but anyway I wasn't saying specifically. Yeah. Yeah. No, I know, but I'm using that as an example so that we can talk about something I got you real. All right. Thanks for those uh responses. We have death Death IP for five dollars. Thank you. Uh says hake needs to take a class in statistics He clearly doesn't understand the difficulty methodology And meta analysis from stats Stats don't lie No, but the I've taken statistics man It was like 20 years ago, but um No, man. I mean the the basis for uh, the basis for Your premises have to be right and you're uh, the stuff that you're measuring has to be right and you have to be Logical in what you think that this thing is actually saying and all that stuff So there's a whole lot more human error going on than just the raw numbers so now That hip Therefore you should trust your feelings Thanks for what I said Thanks so much for those responses. We have a Member chat from sunflower says carissa. Are you attracted to shy nervous emotional men? um I don't I don't know Probably not like it's I feel like it's a weird question And if you guys ever feel I mean like if there's ever a question you guys just want to pass I'm afraid to find that question. Yeah. No, but you just want to pass like oh whatever We have a five CAs from nugget man again A pro lgbt woman bringing scriptures amazing Uh, is that true? Are you are you pro lgbt? Yeah, Carissa? Yeah for sure 100% I rest my case um Yeah, I base off it mostly off of the studies that is done on it mostly in my opinion a lot of the Emotional gaze yucky actually comes from the other side, but Hey, that might just be my experience. I don't have data on it. I rest my case All right, so we'll move on to our next super chat. It's from oh matt jacob's dropping a hundred bomb in the chat says As someone who is heavily involved in the rp sphere I need to express my distaste with the way you wildly misrepresent the data hake The facts do not care about your feelings nor do they care about your religious beliefs You should be ashamed of yourself. Oh, that's just like uh, I thought there was like gonna be a question there No, this is fine. Um, I what's the rp sphere, you know what? I'm not sure about that actually, um rp I wonder what data he thinks that I wildly misrepresented and uh Well, maybe yeah, I don't know. I don't know why he thinks what rp was A red pill. Okay. Maybe that's red pill red pill sphere. Maybe what what have I misrepresented? Anyway, but thanks, man Yeah, thanks for your hundred bomb Yeah, so go away Super chatted five a's whatever that is more white women voted Uh, more white women voted trump than hillary in 2016 Yeah, see whites research the idea that women rejected trump is another false narrative on the left But whites, uh white women did because whites tend whites in this country tends to be more conservative and logical and Um, so and those are older white women So that's that's just proven my point. That'd be that it might be socialized instead of if like intrinsic to women What do you mean by that? So maybe it's not because they're women and from your perspective like what makes women women tend to be women tend to be More Well, like I obviously the emotional thing and emotional intellectual Like what you described the poc women are fall for the false victim hood narrative And so they're going to vote for the daddy government to save them or to feel sorry for the poor victim classes so Yeah, um but if it's the whites tend the whites in this country tend to be more, uh more logical both the women and the men If if it's not static though if you're saying older older Let's say like older white women vote differently than younger the white women. Yeah, the difference could be Something other than their race or their femininity and it could be something cultural That is the white women are more feminine. That's why they voted for trump. But what about the So i'm wondering why there's a difference between older women and younger women if because the older women are more feminine They're they're more the the true woman They're they're less of the uh False feminist stuff that's going on right now They know how it is All right, thanks so much for that. We have a question from time lord says Covers ask hake. Do you believe your interlocutor is inferior with xx genes to your xy genes? um I don't know. I don't understand the question Am I inferior because i'm a woman? Yeah, I believe that's what it is. Oh, okay um No, it's just she has a different role But I thought we there wasn't equality There's no such thing as equality, but the superior and inferior in what way In certain ways. Yeah, I mean for example, you have an inferior belief on the on the gay question But uh, no, I don't I speak straight across to you, right? I appreciate that. Yeah Okay, great. Thanks. We'll move on to our next super chat from Once again, brennan lingo for another ten dollar super chat Matthew 27 through 28 doesn't justify trump's adultery Jesus's point was that people should not arrogantly assume that they are without sin because no one is Hence divine grace one can not avoid sin by their own power Yeah And it also says to be humble and to confess your sin Not to the world And trump is humble Definitely, but I think that was one of the thing one of his strengths was his humility He was he always listened no matter what even uh, ben karson was struck by how he listened Uh, when they met up after trump beat ben karson out so badly Trump, uh, and other people said the same thing that trump actually listens So he's not this arrogant Blowhard that people think that he is it's a caricature Okay, thanks so much for that our next question is Once again nugget man five ca's question for chrissa Do you support abortion? If so Never bring up the bible as an argument again nor ever claim to be a christian Um, do I support abortion? Um, so currently I feel like Um, I I do not like the the fact that so, okay, I think it's Unfortunate abortion is unfortunate, and I think it should be we should try to diminish the number of abortions that people are getting Um because there are also psychological effects to the mother. Um, I I feel like veganism is very um ethical in a similar way that That people should look at an abortion sometimes it's not not It doesn't make sense to be vegan For some people in the same way that Abortion might make sense um I think is a very also just a very in-depth conversation. Um and I I don't know I think like Judaism is not very they are actually very pro um pro-choice From their interpretation of the bible or the Torah I guess. Um, so I think it's I guess it's just a difficult subject I would like to reduce it though through more health care and Etc because that's the thing that proven is proven to work Sure. Okay. Thank you so much for that. Um, we have a A member chat from mango tea says liberalism is the same as islam the more of a statement um But then mango tea had another super chat eight A's whatever currency that is fathers are weak mothers are evil And the sons and daughters are angry Yeah, that is so true and we see that I I kind of describe that as What's going on with the country too? If you look at if you picture the democrats being more female minded They're like the mother of the country if you will the establishment, right? And then the republicans are the weak catering pandering apologizing following along with the the woman And so he's the the republicans are the wimpy father and then we the people are Angry and bitter and we're not going to get past it until we Uh overcome and forgive All right. Thanks so much for that. Um Oh, let's see our next one I was told in the chat that I was um a beta forgiving the woman the last word. This just the bait procedure Which is the bait procedure. Sorry All right, mr. Monster five dollars super chat. Thank you so much for that says queen victoria and cleopatra Were great leaders and rulers women are just as capable as men Do you agree? I disagree. I don't know about those two But I disagree on the notion that women are just as capable of leading as men I would say that um There's nothing essential to women that causes them to be any less of a leader than men I think what men tend to gravitate to that role because They are socialized in a way To have more confidence within that setting specifically. Um, there are many women that have Succeeded incredibly well. Um and and actually It can be a little too ruthless in my opinion. Um but I think that shows that there's nothing Intrinsic to femininity that Um or for being a female that would negate you being um a leader I think if anything if men gravitate more toward those roles, it's because of social situations no men handle pressure way better than women and Um, they're natural leaders They're physically The physical is kind of a a mirror of what the spiritual is. They're naturally Leaders and protectors The women are not Physically they they protect the women and physically they lead the women and spiritually they do as well They are just it's it's just obvious on its face um Yeah, um If it's not like a physical leadership position like I mean obviously trump wouldn't have been the first choice If like a president was judged by his physical acumen So I'm talking about in general like the physical men are stronger than women And so it is spiritually men are stronger than women Women cave to pressure and cower and kiss up You see it all the time anytime they're in these leadership positions But I thought I thought women were the men were kissing up to women and women were being more powerful You don't know that women are kissing up and caving and cowering to to evil I don't even know Look at the republican women for example in in office. Um, they were I remember there was a um I uh where it was like a standstill I don't know. I'm blanking on the word where the republicans and the democrats were at at an impasse And then the republican women the the the nicey nice republican women started to uh compromise And that is so typical So they will cave and cower and pander and go along with evil How would that be different if they were socialized to be that way? Whether they're socialized or not that spiritually they're not they don't have the strength It's not in them to be leading All right, you guys let's get to our last three super chats and then we will be done officially So feel free to just answer these as quick or as long as possible. I mean as you won't take you Nice need and if if you just want to pass you say pass. Um Let's see brinton lingles next another five dollar super chat says god writing the rules of the universe one E equals mc square two s equals kbl n omega three no Sorry three no other stars. Okay. Sorry. I'm right. They're wrong three. No Homo guys. Sorry. I'm not I guess you could say that he started out. I was just like I didn't want to All right, go ahead. Sorry It's just a comment cute All right our Next super chat five CAs back from nugget man Chris say he wants to know if you support abortion. He says yes or no, christen. Do you support abortion? He wants to know Yeah, yes or no, you gave a long wordy answer So support I would not say I I would support anyone necessarily getting an abortion I think the a question comes down to do you think it should be like banned and made illegal And I don't think I don't think that would help anything I think we need to take proactive steps instead of reactive steps And remove the need for abortion to happen in the first place All right. Thanks so much. Is that a yes or a no No, because support implies like positive We've got two more super chats here one is Matt jake up dropping bombs again to $50 super chat. Thanks for that says start with and perhaps your most egregious failure Was your misrepresentation of stoicism? A foundational tenet of traditional masculinity You get far too emotional and inject religion into places where it does not apply I never mentioned stoicism. So I don't know what he's complaining about. I think he's the one who's not being stoic He's getting all mad about how I'm acting I think he's talking about rationality and the truth being found through rationality. No truth is not found through rationality Especially not when you're rationalizing gay to be okay, for example Maybe it's okay if women aren't rational then It's okay if women are not rational because they're supposed to follow the man not the other way around Men are not supposed to listen to the woman All right I'm not sure why I'm being tagged so many times the to ask me can I contend with that $50 super chat? I'm the moderator tonight. I'm not Yeah, I shouldn't be giving my opinion on things. I should just stay uh, stay neutral All right last super chat and then we're done. Um mad mad shitter 499 super chat. Let me just read it first Okay Women against the matriarch would make them subject to men power in numbers bread and circus not sure what that's a reference to but Women against the matriarch would make them subject to men power in numbers Uh-huh bread and circus I don't see how those things go together, but it is interesting There's not just matriarch and a patriot there's also like a meritocracy So it's a weird distinction, but go ahead All right guys, I think that's it. I think we did it. Um, nice. Thank you converse for I know There was a lot going on. So you really appreciate you moderating and and sticking With everything. So thank you and thank you hate for it for talking Yeah, thank you for Carissa. Thank you converse contender. Uh, it's nice to meet you Carissa I was I was supposed to debate your husband, but he took a break And I wish him well, and I I think he wants to beat you at some point about racism So I think he's reached out to James about that. So oh nice Yeah, that'd be awesome. So, um, you know, really appreciate you guys both being here and taking the time to Uh, be with us that I miss I just want to make sure I didn't miss anything because it looks Sorry, okay. Somebody said I might have missed something, but I don't see anything else. So One second here, okay, gotcha. All right Uh, yeah, so thank you guys for, uh, tuning in and everybody's in the chat. Uh, let's just keep it Uh, let's just keep it, uh pretty easy going We do have a A discord that the chat can continue in if you're interested in chatting about this We have a moderator posted the discord link earlier if we could have another moderator to post the discord link in the, uh Chat there and if you want to continue the conversation you can go there and discuss this as well And so thanks to the contenders for being here. Thanks for Everybody who's sitting in a super chat to contribute to the channel. James is a great guy. He's so transparent. He puts receipts up He's always he's he's he's actually I have some of my wife earlier He's like the most transparent guy I've ever seen money all these other channels that I see I don't see them doing the same thing as he's doing With posting receipts and all this stuff. So Brooks Barrow put the discord link in the um in the chat there. Thanks for that and You guys as always keep sifting out the reasonable From the unreasonable