 I think what excited me about doing the integrated learning experience was having an opportunity to get out in the workforce. It's a lot harder I think out of uni without doing placement because you don't have any track record behind you and I wanted an opportunity to, within a relatively low risk environment, with people who are happy to pass on knowledge. One of the things that we've been trying to do here in the Business School over the last two or three years, are people's work with local industries to provide opportunities for our students that are getting them to take their university skills and bring them into the workplace and kind of road test them and get a chance to experience a workplace culture and then we have them working on real projects so we'll take them on TV shoots and to research projects and in appropriate client meetings and they've got a bunch of practical experience that is a great thing to take to a potential or a future employer. I'd done marketing subjects but I didn't understand necessarily how an Asian corresponded with client and how that a campaign came to be in that sense. As a recruitment piece itself for graduates it's incredibly valuable. The way that they think about problems and the way that they challenge the norms is incredibly refreshing and actually really has changed the way that we've done a lot of things. Marty for instance went through our program late last year and has been an incredible asset. There are a bunch of businesses partnered with the uni that send emails through but you can also source your placement yourself. In a business degree you usually get a couple of electives and I would suggest this is far more beneficial for your future than picking a subject that might be a bit of fun on the side but isn't really related to your studies. I definitely recommend the program to students at University of Newcastle. My name's Martin and I completed a Bachelor of Business at University of Newcastle and I did an internship here at Enigma.