 Hey So welcome everybody. This is Debbie dashing there and welcome to dare to dream Podcasts. It's such an honor and pleasure to be here with you at this totally bizarre time in history and in life Where else would I want to be but with you? Power to the people I want to say and whatever it is you're doing. I Just feel at the same time. This is strange This is one of the most powerful times in the world and I'm telling myself every day that what comes up for me is begging to be healed End of story Anything that comes up outside of joy happiness contentment satisfaction Digging the life all of that but anything that feels really uncomfortable is begging to be healed And so I'm literally looking at breathing into not running away from not resisting not trying to analyze Just being with because chances are these are defaults. I've been living in for a long time Right and how does that resonate for you? 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She's the author of two books including renegade beauty reveal and revive your natural radiance and also holistic Dental care the complete guide to healthy teeth and gums and she is the creator of Living libations a luxury line of organic wild and pure botanical natural health and beauty products I've actually got a facial wash of hers that i'm using right now and it's It's delicious and i'm sure seriously besides fantastic skin. I actually could eat it. It's that organic Nadine Artemis is an aromacologist with immune enhancing formulas and medicinal blends for health and wellness Her potent dental serums are used worldwide And provide the purest world care available She's received glowing reviews in the Hollywood reporter Los Angeles Times new york magazine people l yoga journal natural health the new york times and national post Aveda founder hoarse Recklbacher calls Nadine a pure flower of creativity to learn more about her and her products go to living libations Dot com and I welcome Nadine to the dare to dream show Hello Thank you so much for having me on Yes, it is such an honor and a pleasure to have you here and Let's just start with where you are right now because you and I were chatting a little bit You're having some very extraordinary Circumstances Tell us a little bit about where you are and what's going on. Yeah Well, our quarantine was interrupted with a power outage. So we discovered a whole pole had fallen on the driveway And so we're without power for the past few days and it's probably going to be another week Because of course there's less hydro workers right now and all that sort of stuff. So Luckily, we have a few hundred acres There's another cabin. So we made it out to here got some battery packs and uh, here I am Broadcasting live from our forest. I'm so impressed by you There's an even a hitch Is there anything you're doing right now? unexpected That is actually serving you something unique that you're incorporating maybe a practice Or a way of doing your day Or a new thing that you've brought into your life that you may want to carry forward that you can share with us Yeah, I think one of the main things because I do uh, you know, I normally we run this beautiful business And we have a whole team but I do often work from the home office because I you know as the Captain of the ship. I need that that really wide perspective and and I'm working with remote teams and clients So I I'm used to working at home So that's normal But one thing that's really different is I'm finding like instead of just going for like a full, you know, eight-hour run of work or whatever I'm doing things in smaller segments. They're kind of a cushion around them. And then I'm like meditating about six times a day Wow Having these little pockets and then like doing something and then like taking that pause Feeling you know going into alignment feeling the alignment Loving the alignment and then going back out Into then doing something else. So that's probably a good thing to carry forward What are you finding by virtue of hitting the pause button? Extricating yourself from that busy life and going inside or with the all that is and meditating What is it bringing into your life? That's a surprise Well, it's like I'm feeling I'm taking the time to feel that those good feeling I love I could you know, I feel like I could live in the meditative state. Obviously, that's not practical But so it's just really nurturing to go to go to feel that and despite You know, what's going on? It's like, you know, I could I tune in and I'm feeling good and so When you feel good when you have a good thought it's good to build on that and keep it going and get Get that momentum going. So I'm finding the meditations giving that momentum And also, you know, if if I had to tune into the news or whatever like I'm I keep coming back to Alignment That's beautiful. I love that Yeah That's something I might consider going forward myself. That's really good because I feel like this is a time about that I really yeah, I feel like a full run of like an eight hour whatever It's too much information right now almost, you know what I mean? Like we have to So yeah, because the quarantine didn't really slow down parts of my life because I'll even It's it's you know, we live on this beautiful land and I really spent the past decade like bringing things that I need here building our beautiful 20,000 square foot building And like, you know, even having to work out groceries and all that because it's not like the town that we live nearby has All the beautiful organic and all, you know what I mean? There's not you don't live here and then go Oh, I'm hungry. I'm going to run out to the store. That doesn't happen and that's been training us So we have like wholesale food trucks that come up anyway from because we work with our team to order food And that kind of stuff. So we already have these things in motion And I will literally because I could walk through the woods to work And that's I'm kind of complete here on our land. So I'll do things like last year I was like, how long can I go without getting in a car and leaving the land? And I was you know, I did that for about six months till I had to go somewhere So I feel like I'm kind of made for not, you know, like I I can be here I feel very satisfied With what's here and the people that are here and you know, my family So I'm built for that part the quarantine part for sure Yeah, the meditations knew, you know I want a beautiful place to do it. You talk about walking through the woods and it's like You're surrounded by a lot of support environmentally Yes, I can go to books And I just want to say I do books for a living I'm a book writing coach I take people's books to a guaranteed international bestseller and I help generally spiritual entrepreneurs learn how to be interviewed On radio and podcast and get results. I work with books, right? I read a lot of books as a human but also professionally than having people come on the show. I read books So a lot passes by me that sometimes I typically wouldn't see And there was so much care I just want to thank you for that As a reader As a consumer so much care went into the books. I mean beautiful like really The layout it's so meaningful to me And I just want to show people because look at this like You know the pictures and most of the pictures are just mine and I shot them on my iphone from what was on our land This is beautiful. I have a client actually working on a crystal book right now And she's going to be doing something very similar. She's a she's really kind of genius And so this will be great for her to see but look, I mean, these are just gorgeous, right? Sorry, this is going in and out, but you can get an idea. So I want to start with the Holistic dental care book, which You know, it's dog-eared everywhere because The intro of this book starts with the sentence It's not knowledgeable about how to care How to care for and how to feed Our teeth and gums. I have never heard those words before feeding our gums So what are our gums hungry for and how can we nurture them? That's a great question. The gums are such an essential part of our mouths and I'm sure if anybody has Experienced a dentist telling them. Oh, your gums are receding. That's a bit of an issue And it's a huge issue. Like that's when you kind of go. Oh maybe you start thinking about your gums then and Yeah, what they they need to be fed, but I also feel like they also need to not be fed some things So classic like walking down a drugstore dental aisle pretty much The whole aisle is not needed and And how we know that even more now is because we know about the microbiome and there's an oral microbiome That is so essential to our health and well-being and our digestive immune and endocrine systems That we need to know about it and not be assaulting it with things like sodium oral sulfate or triglycine Or really harsh synthetic alcohols and mouth washes Which can statistically it's about 36 000 cases of oral cancer a year From that type of mouthwash Which is kind of insane So we need to kind of stop doing a bunch of stuff and then Really care for our mouths with some simple things that are tried and true from thousands of years of use from uh plant extracts, which I like to think of as botanical biotics sea salt baking soda Like if you just ditch everything That you bought for your mouth and just start with baking soda You're going to be You know Worlds ahead of like you're going to just like your mouth's going to be so happy It's alkalinizing. It's going to whiten the teeth. It's like it's a good thing for the saliva Our body actually does produce it and it declines as we grow in years So these are substances that aren't you know natural for our body and they're going to help to heal and seal the gums Using sodium oral sulfate is could be a reason why somebody's experiencing bleeding gums And when there's bleeding gums then all of that stuff is entering the bloodstream Really quickly those toxins from the toothpaste entering the bloodstream And then when things enter the bloodstream like that or just the bacteria and viruses that are in our mouth Every day, but hopefully if it's in a healthy state then the good bacteria are helping to balance that But if not then we're we're getting all of that the bacteria the viruses into our bloodstream from our mouths So that's really important to have a sealed and healed Gums and something like sodium oral sulfate can just literally be causing could be the cause When you say baking soda you mean as a toothpaste on a yeah Just like the powder you put a pinch on and you can mix it with sea salt You can add coconut. I can add peppermint oil I mean you can grow from there But seriously if you just use baking soda from now till the end of your sweet time Your mouth would be so happy After reading your book, I immediately called I actually don't really see a dentist. I see a periodontist and there's a story. I'll tell you in a minute Yeah, I called the periodontist and said listen. I know I have an appointment coming up But I want to add something. I want you to check my entire mouth and make sure I'm pretty sure I extracted all the metal But I want to make Nothing untoured in my mouth. And so I was so grateful After the x-rays and the you know checking around they're like, nope, you're good You did it because yeah, it can be hiding under a crown or something Right some metal going on there. Yeah Yeah, and you talk about being able to reverse things. I was grateful for that So pre knowing you and knowing your brilliance Um several years ago. I would say four years ago I went I had all this mouth pain and I got sent to specialist after specialist ended up at this very lovely periodontist Who took a deep look in my mouth and said I'm so sorry But you need to have three teeth pulled and you're going to have to get the metal Put in and you're going to have to do an implant and it'll be at least 20,000 dollars because I live in los angeles and I was like a What? I just the thought of losing my teeth and at a price point like that. I'll buy a car. Thank you very much So I was scared. That's what I like to say. I was scared straight, right? Yeah It was scared straight and I said to the periodontist You tell me right now. What do I need to do to reverse this? Right that well Look, you're going to Europe. Why don't you take off about six weeks and I'll see you when you come back But really I don't know, you know, you're gonna have to clean after every single meal You have to make sure nothing ever remains in there because it immediately becomes bacteria If you eat a meal and you just let it hang out Yeah, you drink when you eat and you know increase a little bit the brushing and Definitely the flossing and you know get little picks and I on it then I discovered mms And I started playing with that and I literally went to europe and that's all I did and I came back and he went Well, this is interesting I think we can wait another couple of months, but let's see. We'll probably still need to do the implants I will tell you it's been four years He he calls me his miracle patient And he said it's the first time he's ever seen anyone reverse the situation Never had to have the implants and not only that but I've regrown the gum tissue and the health of the teeth And then I read your book. So I feel like and now I can take it to a whole other level if he thought I was a miracle before Yeah, watch out I got Nadine on my team now For sure I'm so glad you didn't have to go that route though because You don't want to have the metal implants If if if it has to be done, it's zirconium is the clean is the clean option and When the teeth are extracted, it's also very important and it's not normal protocol But the that the periodontal ligaments are removed and that's Because if they don't remove it then the gum That basically rots the jaw 40, you know 40 years later down the line and then you have jaw cavitations, which is like a tooth cavitation, but in the jaw bone So thank god. You didn't spend 20 000 dollars On a health issue waiting down the road So yay Like yay Thank you for that. Oh my god. That's a that's a horror. It's amazing So you speak about the jaw. Good. Perfect. TMJ Yeah, I can sleep with a mouth guard, which I I question a lot the validity of a mouth Because I think people with TMJ are just going to bite down on the mouth guard. So yeah Why don't you just encountering it? Is there a way to counter TMJ? Well, sometimes you do need that buffer But I do have to say there's been a lot of progress with silicone and like there's a lot of options on, you know Amazon for example or wherever that you don't have to go that full really expensive route if you just need to start Saving the teeth surfaces until you can kind of deal with the problem um Yeah, I used to grind my teeth too. I couldn't believe when I was like 22 I was suggested to go They sent me to some clinic and they were going to give me like I don't know like a kind of a sleeping pill and I was like That doesn't make any sense to me like a like that's okay for the rest of my life And I'd been going to a massage therapist So long ago, but she was just doing the intraoral massage with you know, they put on a glove and then you're oh my god And it was making so much improvement That I like knew there was other relief for me plus now Learning more about teeth what happens too is a lot of our jaw stuff comes from dental procedures because Even just removing a tooth or filling a cavity the whole occipital ridge the jaw Is like slightly traumatized You know in a really good dentist would send you to get osteopathy or cranial sacral after and like readjust that but think of all the things we had done and we never took care Of the bones and the jaw, you know what I mean after those kind of is that because the mouth the jaw is open So it's such an extremity for so long or what so many things Well, just literally taking a like the a tooth out or filling it is just like it's just Calibrating that area in a in a way that's like You know in a way like kind of having a fall or something where you'd like kind of need a chiropractic adjustment afterwards Or a massage, you know to just bring it back in So I mean that you know and we we've all had different things or braces or just getting wisdom teeth pulled like all of that throws the whole thing off You know and then we're not eating enough nutrients. So everything's getting smaller in this area So there's a whole bunch of stuff and then also it can obviously be a cortisol reaction a stress issue It can even be the products you're using just throwing things off and adding tension to the area So what can be done? You know, obviously there's the retainer options and the mouth guards and stuff But going to bed in a different way like, you know, maybe you need to start sleep differently Monitor sleep make sure you're getting the REM stage and then like try and go to sleep meditating or or using something like Binaural beats which kind of do the meditating for you And if you can find because they can really make that jaw Relaxed, you know You can kind of like when you're meditating. I mean, hopefully you're not like Seized up in the jaw. So you do the things that relax the jaw and definitely there's um Myofascial specialists that even do Skype appointments and you can retrain things It's really just a habit of holding your body a certain way Could be from dental trauma or different things But you just have to kind of slowly but surely unwind that part I always feel like I look like a football player when I go to bed I've got the mouth guard. I've got the face mask I do listen to meditation So I was trying to consolidate and I found on amazon this band That goes over the eyes to blacken things out and then it's got um things that go right in the ears So you can listen to the binaural beats one less. That's cool. And it's very nice very comfortable On the head that is so interesting. I never thought about the cart cortisol because I'm very relaxed personally going to a dentist But I I do know there's many many people who will literally resist going to a dentist Because it brings up so much concern and stress So yeah, this is making a lot of sense and I like the fact that you're giving us some tips So let's go to the tips people who are listening and Gosh, they have time on their hands right now to implement things to possibly invest In some new practices. So let's support them there What can change Our experience so much less dentist much less periodontist but much more health going on Yeah, and I have eight steps that I've made. I'm sure you read about them in the book and it's on our website Many places there's videos and all that but that really will if you follow those eight steps And you can we I make a wide range of really beautiful potent dental products and serums But you don't even have to go there that would you know really accelerate things but literally once again, you can do those eight steps with just baking soda or sea salt and Wherever your mouth's at today it will improve So also if you have to go to the dentist soon or the hygienic state of cleaning do these steps first You know do them in quarantine and by the time you can get out You know your mouth will be in a new shape and then your appointment will be better And maybe less expensive and you know what I mean all of that. So this is the time now to do what we also do consults We've offered them before but usually about half an hour Like you can call us or email us and you can just tell us all your dental issues your skin issues and we will just Walk you through solutions and and and if we don't have the answer It's complicated or something that will send you to resources and where you can take care of things And we just really believe in education as maybe you can tell from the books. We just like to go in deep and deliver Yeah, you're like a nerd scientist Essential oil Brilliant naturalist. It's really it's a great soup Thanks How did these celebrities find you so you've got all these beautiful followers and great Really good credits, but how did they find living libations? That's a great question. Well, you know when I was 22 I opened up north america's first full concept aromatherapy store and that was in toronto on queen street and so That was like a little beacon and then people would come in I you know Like I I met so many people that way But one of the fun like a lanus came one day. She was coming to toronto for a concert And she's like to her friend when we had mutual friends. She said oh my gosh There's this aromatherapy store. I've got to go to it and her friend was like I know the friend of a friend or whatever So we got a call and we met her at the store after her concert. It was like at midnight And that was so fun She was like a kid in a candy store and that was such a great moment And so we've been connected since then and um and then I don't I don't know just it just slowly gets out and You know or like I saw one fun I saw lisa bene once at a friends party. I didn't know it was her right away, but she was very pivotal When I was at this moment. I was about 18 years old And I was at university and I was just started to make you know You're on your own making my own food and stuff and I was skipping school and I saw her on tv And she was talking about the connection between food and the environment and health And we didn't know that then So this was like radical and I was like, oh my god, this makes so much sense And from that moment forward, I really thought about what I was like a whole a month where I just radically shifted What I ate started there was a farmers market. There was a health food store I started reading labels. I read a book on reading labels Then I was like, oh my god, all my skincare is totally like just petroleum Even though I thought it was natural like the body shop I was into at that time And I was like, it's just total bs. It's just You know we packaged So it was really that moment that was quite life changing and I started making all my own skincare products. So then That's forward to a few years ago And I met her and she was so thankful just thanking me for Something she had just listened to some podcast. I was on or something and uh And then I was like I was able to share with her how Really were at this moment because of her So that was really special And then my sweet friend Carrie Ann who I just love so much She just emailed me one day because she was at somebody's house And had opened a bottle of the rose glow serum and was just like I need to Meet this woman and she just emailed me and was like, I need to meet you. So I was like, okay It's things like that And then she left the forward in your book and then she wrote the forward and like yeah, so here we really are today Yeah, amazing so You are a successful business woman right from being in 18 and 20 and in university and And being influenced and impacted by this truth that you're hearing Which is great that you didn't just listen to it, but you actually Followed up investigated Research to started applicating it to your life getting results and then You know, here you are giving it as a gift out to the world What kind of habits do you have made Dean as a business woman that you feel have helped you succeed Helped you run living libations to the extent and the popularity that it is That's a good question I well first of all There is obviously a passion that's Beyond you know what I mean? That's just like something dropped in obviously at some point in my childhood And I listened to that and also as a child I you know, I didn't know what it was called then, but I always focused on my strength. So If I wasn't into something Which I'm sure was a nuisance for the parents and the teachers and all that but there was like almost like just no like, you know But I if I love something fully engaged and I just kept following that And and sensitive with my body kind of pretend that I'm like the princess and the pee but with like health in my body So such a sensitivity that if if I was doing something and it didn't feel right then it would just be like, okay that's over and so Just through those sensitivities And like, you know understanding how it was acting or interacting with my body. It just You know became It narrowed a portal, but then it opened up this whole world of botanicals and beauty So really through following that calling and listening to The sort of unseen alchemists that you know are sort of talking to me in my head or that those early whisperings are so key to follow And then I think um And then you know, there's going to be stages with entrepreneur I mean, there's times when you're like, I didn't sign up for this or I wanted to blend jasmine I didn't want to talk to insurance brokers You know, and you got to Keep riding through you know all the stages and um I think one thing that's been neat having you know been doing business for a couple decades is like it really just keeps evolving for you So I know there's people that kind of keep doing different businesses And that that's cool too, but I just find really within the one business Wow, like so many chapters so many roles, you know, it's just it's endless It can really serve you and propel you on whatever journey you're on beautiful Well, when we come back we'll have a little bit more conversation with Nadine Artemis and If you are at home if you are somewhere out in the world and saying gosh My bucket list Haven't done it yet, but I've always wanted to write a book I'm going to give you two perfect options right now that you can start right now The first is an author membership where I live Guide you as a coach How to write your book and you can go to debbie dashinger.com Visible visionaries Debb I d a c h i m g e r dot com slash Visible visionaries and I am teaching you the entire system So you can write a page turn a book and get it published this year and if you would like a less arduous If you will or a more easy way to do a book You can write a chapter in an anthology There's a new anthology that's rolling out that I've got authors registering for And it's about dogs How does it get any better than that if you love k9s or k9 or pups or you're a pet lover You can write fiction nonfiction poem It's all wonderful because the more varied an anthology compilation the better Go to debbie d dot net slash anthology and you'll see the amazing Amazing bonuses that come with this for all the authors. We do have people registering So if you would like to write a chapter, I guide you through the whole process go to debb i d dot net Slash anthology And it'll be in my honor to take you either to write your book or to write your chapter in the dog anthology So if you're tuning in after we've started, this is debbie dashinger the award-winning podcast theater dream I'm speaking with Nadine Artemis She's the creator of living libations an exquisite line of serums elixirs and essential oils for those seeking the purest botanical health and you can find out more about this woman and her business at livinglibations.com And I want to ask you first about Let me see if I can pop you in here I want to ask you first Nadine about this word Which I find fascinating and the word is An aromacologist it sounds so beautiful I was born in the year of the dog and I have to say I have A very sensitive nose and I love perfumed oils and Things that smell amazing. I'm very sensitive both ways So do you need to have a really amazing nose to be an aromacologist and what is all of that entail? Yeah, I think so because you know it is about discerning scent And I did discover early on I had when if it something was synthetic I just would have like this thing go off in my right here Which is really above the whole nasal chamber anyway So it's so easy to be how do you tell I'm like oh, it's just was like So it's really just the the art and the study of Of aromas and then their application. So for me, it's like a lot of the application is through botanical formulating And that combination and then using all the aromatics as this really potent palette To not only perfume and I again when I say perfume, it's within the natural realm But the even if you didn't have a sense of smell Those ingredients those extracts those distillation still have a physiological effect on the body So if you can't smell but you're smelling you're inhaling rosemary You know those molecules will travel up into the body and help the lungs and help the body do their job And that kind of thing. So it's really potent and And again, even though they have a sense of smell they have so much sort of weight physically They're all all essential oils are to varying degree antifungal antiviral antibacterial anti-inflammatory So, you know, there's just so much to them that's beyond the smell I'm kind of fascinated by neem and yeah It is really not a pleasant smell No, it's like one of the most bitter herbs on the planet. So it's bitter In the true sense of the word, but it's anti-parasite, you know, it's parasite So it's it's got job to do. It's so good for digestion. Obviously with the bitters Miss a potent plant. How would you use the oil? Oil will I use it in a lot of the botanical formulations for teeth care It's so good for gum so you can rub it right and then again We're working with the digestive process and this obviously is connected to digestion It's so stinky, right? Like how do you yeah, it's stinky But we put it one we have called yogi to serum and it's cardamom and cinnamon and cayenne and neem and it's potent And people love it. And of course there's people that try it first time and they're like, okay You know, that's really bitter. Is that right? And it's like, yeah, you know, it is But it is a weird product because it's not all just like fun and minty But it's so beloved and it really it's so good for gum care So you could just take that oil and rub it on the gums and tell me what was that called? What's that? Tell me again the name of that Yogi to serum Yogi that sounds amazing. Yeah, we do have fun minty ones that are you know again But the mint is real and it's a workhorse But there are pleasant, you know dental serums that we make as well But the yogi is such a classic and then we also have a neem Clay toothpaste and we also have another toothpaste called neem enamelizer And they're so popular even though again, some people write they're like, did I buy this? You know, do I want to be this bitter? It's like, yeah Oh, yeah, because I have the oil and I've you know used it on my skin and it's like I know it doesn't I've read up on it. It does exquisite things, but dear god I'm like, you know, let me do it when I'm not going to see anybody for a while Yeah, I think if you're going to do or even a scalp treat or something like you just do it and then you it's like your own private spa It's not like oh, I'm going to put it, you know All over my body, but you're not going out. Yeah, but you can definitely use it in your mouth and it It creates great breath even though there's that it's a weird taste on your tongue But it gets all the digestive juices flowing too. So then your body's kicking in as well That's so beautiful. Yeah, I'm going to try it. I like playing around with things like that As you said, I mean, we're all at a baseline right now. So anything we use that you recommend You'll know very quickly if your health is going up, right? Yeah increase happening and that's really important Yeah, and you once you I mean following those steps, you'll see improvements right away Like literally some it depends, you know on the state of your mouth But some people, you know if they because I recommend flossing twice and then you if you want to up the practice You could take one drop of that yogi two serum slide it along the floss and now you're flossing, right? You're getting all that good botanical biotics up into those crevices And when you floss twice you kind of see why because there's like a whole other round of stuff that comes out but Some people with bleeding gums that might clear up overnight Like literally I've had people use that Floss with it and now they don't bleed when they floss Not going to happen for everybody. Sometimes it'll take a week or so But I mean improvements can happen so fast because the skin the epithelium in the mouth is only one cell thick So it's like a bit of an Achilles heel because it can be it can leak really, you know, we can get the Opening to the bloodstream really fast if there's something bleeding, but at the same time I mean it can really speed up and heal quite quickly because it is only one cell So I have to ask it's sort of like an accident. You don't want to look at yeah If you say if you will floss twice Things will come out that will surprise you. What are we talking about? Oh, no I mean just like you're like, oh, I thought you know, you might do your whole mouth and I think you're really diligent You do it again and you're just like, oh, there's like more little food and plaque and stuff So it's nothing radical, but just people like why twice and I'm like, well, just do it and you realize it's not Perfectly clean. I mean I probably can't even do a third and you don't have to do that Like you kind of sometimes you have to do it and bring things up To speed and then, you know, maybe yeah, yeah I've done that with the with the little trees. They call them Dental trees and then floss and without a doubt Still yeah, each one seems to have its forte and the yes, or maybe it does, you know Loosen something up for the next round. So yeah, that's great I want to go to the title if you will because it's you know, just so yummy And this is directly from you which is link is there a link between orgasms meditation and Manifestation orgasms meditation and manifestation. Is there a link? I think there is a link Okay, what would that be? Well, I think one when we're meditating it's to come into alignment and really in that alignment It's it's like a forgetting of the self right because if you're in like not, you know, when you're You know on a meditation sort of surf here. You're catching that meditation wave. You're not just like You know trying and then the grocery list is still happening Right. I mean, we all have those moments when we're meditating but when you're in that zone That's a forgetting of the self which is really the orgasm is also that moment And I feel like that's also the moment when we're in trance and enraptured by beauty The sunrise is like in that moment when you're really present You know, there's no self And like what do I you know in that whole river of thoughts that we have every moment so And then when we get out of the way and we have those moments where we're not Involved with the self that's I feel when manifestation also occurs Because Yes, you know, we have you know, if you you know, you can have a break when you're sleeping and you can restore and that kind of thing But I think one of the main things for meditation is to be awake And have these moments of I'll just non-self that seems what I'm going with today, but those moments where you're out of the way And That's when I feel like, you know, that's when the floodgates open for all of the things that you have been You know going through your life and figuring out what you want What you don't want in those dreams and all of that then then it almost like that Oh, it opens and then that little slide the manifestation slide can come in and deliver Because in those moments, we don't have split energy of like Because a lot of the day we're like, oh, I'd love to do that. Oh, but can I you know what I mean? We kind of We're we're doing that a lot all day having split thoughts And in those moments, we're not having split thought and as soon as we get cleared of those forks in the road of our thinking then The good stuff because then we're receiving we're allowing all that good stuff And there's a lot of non-attachment In all of those there is but we don't want to get to Then split up with the attachment non-attachment. It is non-attachment But it's almost like a kind of non-attachment that has no opposite If that makes sense very much so yeah Yeah, I'm intimate with that and manifestation because I've recognized how many things come with so much ease that I've Desired, but I had yeah, I mean I've really really wanted it but You know, it's there if there is a lot of Internal effort not even external action, but internal Desiring needing that there will happen Doubt fear insecurities Those are the adventures of non-manifestation That is exactly right. Yeah, totally And you have an amazing story. Don't you you had um a tragedy happen with a fire that life We um, yeah, it was in 2013 and just a middle of the night You know just everything was in flames like everything In your home Yeah, our home and our headquarters, which was attached to it at that time So it was just like everything it was actually that was so full on and busy We'd actually moved into little cabins, you know at that time because we were about to build the next Headquarters on another part in our land. We only had like we were we broke ground We were like, you know the plans were in the like that was going to happen on the monday like the you know And that sorry this happened on a saturday a saturday like a saturday sunday And we'd say for years and we zoned the land and then it just all went up And um, it was it was just so crazy. I mean luckily we had savings because we were say we saved to build the next building But we had to just read like we literally had no business materials All you know leaders of frankincense up in flames, you know the computers the hard drives like Oh, you know all the beautiful inventory we just made because you know, we just I remember it was august And we were getting ready for that, you know the the fall the winter. I mean the christ, you know that christmas thing and we're just so Ripe with oils at that time of year too because many of the distillations have been completed in june And then the very rich ones like neroli and rose and immortale all just arrived And again it went all up and my mom had died six months earlier and all her heirlooms went up I mean it was just on and on and on that's a lot Yeah, that was a lot and uh her Well, you know, it's just like one step at a time But of course, I mean it was it was you know in community and our team Somehow though our team we didn't even miss a day of work Even though we didn't have anything because as well you realize well, we still have like A website and we still have so many clients that are like no, you know this keep This believing my patients can't go So it was great because we we we sent out a newsletter and said, you know, monday morning This is what's happening. But we said, you know order as you will and Somehow we're going to try and start shipping in september And somehow we and we so we had a normal month So it was great because all the flow was still happening And we just slowly and I mean we have such a complex operation on one level. I mean it's over 300 raw materials I mean to resource all of that and and and we just bought out distiller because it was like june So we're like They just you know the 20 liters for us and that was it for the year, you know, I mean so we had it was complicated And then we just whatever we could make first we sent out and we just slowly did that You know, we our friend said come use, you know, he gave us his whole 5 000 square foot Place so we were able to you know, at least we had nothing to move in But we were able to start operating right away and just slowly but surely I don't know, you know through all the graces of life But there was a moment where I was just like, oh my god, like do I have to redo the last 20 years? You know, I thought but I didn't You know, like you think it all goes but it doesn't because your business is more than materials You know Yeah And here you are And here we are Resilience, it's amazing. Well, I want to do a quick lightning round with you Add some listeners who knew you were coming on the show And I think we have three questions that people sent in So let's see if we can quickly help some people Okay, um, so renegade beauty for direction and problematic areas there Let's see. This listener is jill who asked may deem I have dandruff and it looks awful. I've tried rosemary oil Expensive organic dandruff shampoos with oils in them and all to no avail I have wavy dry hair Are there is there a real solution? You know that works Yes, we've had lots of improvement first of all just at home. You can you know, maybe you need a shower filter Easy to get one again. I'm not trying to promote amazon But you know what I mean like at a market you can get them for like 20 20 30 dollars So that would be great because the chlorine on top of all that, you know, that's messing with the scalps microbiome And then often, you know, there could be something underlying like with the guts So, you know, maybe elimination diet of like sugar, you know, try that something could be aggravating it or feeding Uh, because it could be like a topical fungus. So those are some things to look at and certainly jill email us for more Um, people also have had great improvements with our shampoo and our scalp oils Um, I like to always give those other things to do first But the fun thing is a lot of people just use the product and they don't have to make any dietary changes So That's kind of fun too. Um, so our true blue shampoo I think is better for that and then we literally have something called scalp tonic Also, I mean, you know, it rosemary is great But we don't know the kind or you know, and you want to apply it with oil and just applying rosemary wouldn't quite do it because it also could be the shampoo It doesn't mean You need a And the dandruff shampoos have a lot of different chemicals, but it could just be A common ingredient and a lot of shampoos like a sodium little sulfate That's just continually aggravating it And maybe you can't get away from it because it could have been a common ingredient in all those shampoos Okay, excellent. Melanie wrote in I have middle age hormone related acne Yeah, hate what it does to my face How can I get rid of the unsightly acne? She has more information here in case you needed it like, you know, she is managing her hormones through Bio-agenticals and good good. Yeah, because sometimes it could be a drop in progesterone So but it sounds like she's on that and then again food choices like even within healthy foods some could be aggravating like cashews are such an for if you get acne and you're eating cashews totally Most likely related who would have known that I didn't know I didn't know until literally Yes, or soy huge hormone aggravator So, you know, there could be things to look at there But then again, oh my god this the vicious cycle We start with products and then attacking the acne and then the chemicals and drying out and using soap So, um, I write about it in renegade beauty and it's on our website But don't use soap to wash your face So we use oil and it sounds like you may have gotten like one of our best skinnevers And so for people with acne sometimes it's like really I gotta wash my oil, you know, it's like scary But it really it evolves everything because there's such a we're messing around with the sebum and then the lipid barriers and the strong corneum and it's getting so Just messed with and then it's the skin keeps trying to like rebalance itself So really recommend like, you know, I'm not sure what she's using right now But just like kind of leaving that all behind and just start cleansing and washing with oil And the same bottle could cleanse and moisturize You can keep it really simple. We do have the one bottle to do it all But there's also other options And it smells like heaven just, you know, it's very pretty too to keep on the counter Tim wrote in I'd like to naturally minimize wrinkles and get rid of age related facial skin Oh, okay, got it. So wrinkles and whatever else happens with age Can you offer effective renegade beauty solutions? Yes, well again, kind of what I was saying before but it's not acne related But yeah, we need to get rid of like all the products that are messing with our microbiome It's like we want to kind of stand back and let the bacteria of our microbiome be our beautician And we can't just keep adding chemicals that are like assaulting And ruining the diversity of it and then creating things like melasma creating cell dehydration You know, there's no cell in our body that's parched for petroleum So there's like a whole bunch of beauty care products that like no matter what the ad says or looks like it's not doing anything It's not even keeping your skin at neutral It's literally tipping it into like, you know, things you're gonna have to catch up with like 10 years down the road So you want to just you know ditch that stuff and then again just work with you know If it is so for the guy with the brisket nevers are great for guys too We got the frankincense beskin ever the sandalwood beskin ever And you know, just start replenishing and allowing the lipid barriers and the skin to to start working Because you know, just like with our teeth We got to kind of get out of the way and allow the forces of our body that were designed to Take care of everything to do its job Okay, and you say Made Dean that there's a connection between our mouth health Our immunity Our ears our nose and our lungs, which is this is like really important right now Yes, which is another reason why you know, like not just to have good teeth So you don't have a $20,000 dental appointment But like because it is all going in and biofilms do go into our body So, you know, and there's a whole yeah the ear nose throat microbiome We really want to keep clean and then using that baking soda keeps the saliva alkaline and we want to keep our noses moist You know, some of us are coming out of using heat all winter drying things out We don't want to let that mucus membrane get dry You know, we have bombs that you can put up there. My my book has a recipe for a nose bomb So we've got to keep that whole system healthy And by not, you know swallowing the plaque and the sodium lauryl sulfate and that kind of stuff. That's very interesting. There is a doctor a local Surgeon here in Beverly Hills is the next town over from me Who put out an email? I thought it was really kind and he was saying You know, there's a reason why surgeons wash their hands But please understand they also wash their noses and i'm telling you because at a time like this it could actually assist you And uh that really resonated with me that made sense So things don't get trapped at a time like this when this is something that can go into the eyes or the nose the covid 19 And so your nose balm you're talking about is that an internal balm? Yeah, well, yeah the recipes for that and we also just have like uh, we also just make bombs that you can apply anywhere So we have one called immune a loom bomb. I take that flying and I mean for decade I've I've I put a little in my ears a little at my nose a little under my nose And then we actually I've been making masks for years Because I when I fly I didn't I put them a coat them with essential oils and then go over So obviously we've upped our production these days, but you know when I fly my whole goal for years has been not to inhale The air and not to touch anything So, uh, you know, that's why we have like the immune balm hand sanitizers, you know keeping everything clean But soap really does work and again, of course I'm going to be using natural soap and that's a you know better thing with beautiful clay soaps and stuff But any soap Literally, it's just the it's the amp amplifiers which just remove the coating which isn't very strong around a virus It literally bursts it open washes it down the drain So soap is simple, but it seriously it works Yes, and I want to concur with what you're saying. I had to fly somewhere I had an essential trip that I had to take And a friend who has A stewardess in her family said I'll tell you something that stewardess do They will use like the thieve soil, which is nominal. I mean I drink it I you know use it for everything your hand so for just use a tiny bit of vaseline And the people are some kind of conduit and you just tuck it inside the nose and then like you said in the mask when you fly Who knew? Yeah, that's basically the balm trick There you go. Here you go, and it got me there and back safe. That's for shella. Yep I think you just reminded another tip is I'll take uh Scrub my hands and then I'll put a drop of tea tree in the White and then also makes it kind of look like a french manicure because it whitens them But then you've got super clean hands too Oh Amazing. Yeah. Yeah, that's great because tea tree oil is one of the ingredients that the world health organization recommends when you make your own Homestand, yes And there's studies. They're all out there like it just shows even I know it's a different creature But tea tree at like under one percent is effective Um for h1n1 for example under one percent Maybe under two percent. It's really small But it's like, you know what I mean like a tiny amount of tea tree oil is effective against other viruses We have seen it doesn't mean it's effective against this one But I'm just using it as an example of like it's clean. It keeps us clean Yeah, it's interesting because for years, you know, I've always cleaned my yoga mat after a certain amount of uses I'm soak it in the bathtub and the bathtub is always filled with water and tea tree oil And I think it keeps the mat itself really nice Me and then soak I mean smells amazing and then it's so clean after and they dry very very quickly So it just gets tons of uses for this. I love this conversation Uh, so I want to ask you about your dreams because this is dear to dream So Nadine, what are you next year to dream? What are your future dreams and goals? Oh, that's such a great question and such an interesting time to ask it at because on one level Humanity is almost being asked to not make plans You know, I mean, you know what I mean? Like we've all I'm sure all of us have had to cancel micro and macro plans and visions and that kind of thing In this moment, um I feel like I've accomplished a lot of things that were on my list and I'm really into listening to the inspiration that comes and flowing with that and always seeking alignment and And just more of what we're doing. I know it sounds pretty simple, but it's just like more more alignment more connection otherwise, I'm feeling pretty satisfied and I also know that I have probably more You know in the rest for the rest of my life There's just there's gonna be so much inspiration that I don't even have to think about it Do you know what I mean? Like if that's done like I don't have to worry about another creative project because They come in so fast. It's just just like That'll be fine. I just have to listen, you know and tune in and I'm good That's beautiful and meditate six times a day. Yeah right now. 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