 I had to do a lot of background research, I didn't know who Mercatus was. My name is Dan Butler. I'm the senior director of development at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University. I came to Mercatus without knowing what Mercatus actually was, honestly. I was working in New York City, I was a floor trader on the American Stock Exchange, but deep inside I'd always wanted to be involved in some ways in public policy. Unfortunately, I have no political science degree, I don't have a background in any of this, but I had done a little bit of fundraising to which I put on my resume and I sent my resume blindly down to the Heritage Foundation, which had a job bank, a job service placement. And what they did is they sent it over to the Mercatus Center and Mercatus saw that I had a little fundraising experience and said, I'd be interested in talking to you. So again, I had to do a lot of background research, I didn't know who Mercatus was and at the time, honestly, it was only about 20 people, but after several interviews and a day down here, it was a great match and I haven't left 15 years.