 السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته وإذا كنت تبقى أيضاً رومضان رسالة للمساعدة يمكنك أن تأخذنا في المسؤولة at www.amu.org المسؤولة التي سنأخذها today is as follows الحمد لله رب العالمين له الحمد الحسن والثناء الجميل وأشد أن لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له وأشد أن سيدنا ونبينا محمد سلالله عليه وعلى آله وأصحابه والتابعين لهم بإحسانين إلى يوم الدين أما بعد فإن شاء الله تعالى هذه المسؤولة بإذن إله الكريم أعتقد أنه يتبقى بشكل أخير أول part of the question consists of reading from the moushaf or using the moushaf while praying and the second part of the question إن شاء الله تعالى is where do you put your hand if you are allowed to hold the moushaf the scholars they have two views regarding using the moushaf in the prayer there are two views there is the view of the جمهور العلماء the overwhelming majority of scholars who are of the opinion that is permissible and you have the قول of the حنفية and also the ظاهرية like حزم and others who hold the opinion that it's not allowed so إن شاء الله تعالى what I'm going to do is I'm going to present the the two views and then إن شاء الله تعالى I want to mention which of those two views seem strongest to myself the first view they say that it's permissible because this is the action of the early pious predecessors الإمام البقاريو narrated إن صحيح معلقا الإمام البقاريو narrated إن صحيح معلقا that our mother عائشة رضي الله تعالى عنها she had a slave boy called ذكوان this slave boy of عائشة named ذكوان he used to lead our mother عائشة in the prayer يقومها من المصحف and he used to recite from the مصحف he used to read from the مصحف في رموبان the narration mentions in the month of رموبان so this narration clearly and categorically shows us that عائشة رضي الله تعالى عنها the wife of the prophet she would be led by her slave boy and he would read from the مصحف and she would pray behind him رضي الله تعالى عنها إن إبن وهب رحمه الله he said that إبن وشهاب زوري said كان خيارنا في المصحف في في رموبان إبن وهبن and some of the times is transmitted as زوري was asked محمد إبن وشهاب زوري was asked about a person reading from the مصحف whilst praying إني تراويح أو قيام and إبن وشهاب زوري who said كان خيارنا our righteous ones our noble ones they used to recite from في المصحف في رموبان منطف رموبان they used to read from the مصحف يعني from the مصحف and إبن سحنون who is from the مالكية he said that الإمام مالك رحمه الله he said لا بأسة بأي أمر الإمام it is no harm for an Imam to lead the people in the صلاة from a مصحف in رموبان and even involuntary prayers and إبن القاسب he said that الإمام مالك كريه ذلك في الفريضة الإمام مالك didn't like it to be done in the obligatory prayers يعني according to الإمام مالك there is no harm from the Imam to lead the people in the صلاة reading from the مصحف whether it be قيام والليل or whether it be any other voluntary prayers any super-rogatory prayers إمام مالك had no problem with that but an Imam مالك was against the idea of the Imam reading from the مصحف for the صلاة الفريضة the obligatory prayers he saw that to be حرام and not allowed وردلك تام كريهة to the self meant حرام يعني they didn't like it يعني they saw it to be حرام okay also الإمام النوي from نشافعية he mentioned that if the Imam read from the مصحف لم تبطل صلاة صلاة is not batil يعني صلاة is not batil سواء كان يحفظه whether he knows the Qur'an and he's a Hafض أم لا whether he's not memorised the Qur'an بل يجيب عليه ذلك إذا لم يحفظ الفاتحة rather it's obligatory if he has not memorised فاتحة has to read from the مصحف it's obligatory because فاتحة has a pillar in the prayer and he must read from the مصحف ما لا يتم الواجب إلا به فأواجب whatever the obligatory act cannot be done without it becomes obligatory يعني if you have to read فاتحة in the prayer and you can't unless you read from the مصحف then reading from the مصحف becomes obligatory now what we went on to say and this statement by the way from الإمام النوي found in this مجمو which is now what we mentioned رحمة الله ولو قلب even if he turns over the Iraq and the pages of the مصحف sometimes in the prayer يعني if it's small مصحف where he has to turn over the pages some of the Imam they've got big مصاحف and he knows big مصاحف the whole قيام he doesn't have to turn over the pages and I've seen that in Egypt some of the imams in Egypt they have like four or five pages in a big page يعني he doesn't have to turn over the pages but what about if he has a small مصحف he has to keep turning over the pages turning over the pages now what we're saying it doesn't harm at all there's no problem this and he said this is our مدهب and the مدهب of إمالك and أبو يوسف and others and I think if I'm not wrong this is the مفتاب in the مدهب of إمام محمد if I'm not wrong now we have the other party the other group who have the opinion that it is not permissible it is not allowed for a person to read from a مصحف it is not allowed man this is a strong view according to الإمام أبو حنيف أبو حنيف holds the opinion that it's not permissible okay he doesn't believe it like his own student أبو يوسف disagrees with him on this disagrees with him on this and I think even إمام محمد أبو حنيف disagrees with him on this على كل حال أبو حزم من الظاهرية he holds the opinion of أبو حنيف رحمة الله which is that it's not allowed and the argument is that there's too much movements and the person has to turn over the pages there's too many movements that are being done which is not permissible in the Salah and they said this is not allowed and the response to that is very simple which is that we know our prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم كان يصلي ووحمل أمامة بنتي زي نبي بنتي رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم that our prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم actually prayed and he was carrying عليه صلى الله عليه وسلم أمامة بنتي زي نبي he was carrying her صلى الله عليه وسلم and you know carrying a child is more of a movement than turning over the pages in the Mus'haf another argument of theirs was that the Sahabas they said كنا نسلموا في الصلاة we used to greet each other in the prayer and whilst we were praying we would greet each other سلام عليك وطي وطي and then they said فقيل لنا it was then said to us إنه في الصلاة لشغل لا that the Salah or the person who is in the prayer is preoccupied he can't be greeting other people this is the argument أبو داويد انترمي دا لبنو ما generated this hadith يعني the person who is praying is preoccupied there are no other things in which he can distract himself with he cannot be focusing on other things this is also the argument that they brought forward but the response to this is very easy and simple and what we say to them is that أول مدع عائش رضي الله تعالى عنها when she did what she did and also when إبن وهبين mentioned that إبنو شياب الزوري كان خيارون يقرأون في المصاح في رمضان this is something you could say that انتشرة في زمن الصحابة ولم يونقر عليه it's something that spread at the time of the pious predecessors at the time of the Sahabas and we have nobody disagreeing with it or objecting to it so we could say that this is something they had agreed among themselves that this is not a problem and reading from the مصحب is not a thing that's going to preoccupy you away from the salah it's actually what's going to make you focus on the salah by reading from the مصحب there was a time I used to hold the opinion that it wasn't allowed to read from the مصحب in the صلاة التراوية but that which seems apparent and strongest to me now والعلم عند الله and knowledge is with Allah is that it's permissible to read from the مصحب in Ramallah in the voluntary prayers as long as it's not the obligatory prayers the obligatory prayers فلي أم القوم أقرأهم لي كتاب الله the obligatory prayers the one who knows the most Quran should lead the people and the one that doesn't know should stand back the second part of the question is that where does the person place their hand the person should keep their hand on their chest and the one in which they are holding is in this hand and your hand is on here when you want to turn it you can hold it with two hands to turn it over but then your left hand goes back on your chest and you hold it with your right hand and your hand stays on top of the other hand and if you have a place where you can put it in front of you then it is permissible and if you can hold it somewhere in front of you then that is also permissible if you can place something in front of you that can hold the مصحف for you that is even better والإلم وإن الله is knowledge is with Allah who سبحانه وتعالى anything I might have said that was wrong or incorrect is from me and Allah and his messenger is free from it سبحانك اللهم بحمدك