 Hello Comic Con. How we feeling? We're gonna get straight on to it. I've got three beautiful people to introduce from the Doctor Who fandom, all embarrassingly white, I do apologize. The first from the den of the nerds is Jack Demage. Next from an awful, awful podcast. He named it himself. It's not my fault. It's Jack Alexander. And lastly, who knew? Good question. Let's ask Josh Carr. So, quick explanation on what we are planning on doing. We're gonna split this up into three segments. The first about 60th anniversary news, which I'm sure we're all excited for. The second will be battles in fandom where we're gonna be arguing about things that realistically don't matter. And last but not least, we're gonna be doing the Corridor of Fame, where we're gonna nominate people from either the show or the community to be placed writers. I'm sorry. Are we okay, Scarow? No, come on. Don't be shy. Get him. Get him. Ladies and gentlemen, the Daleks. Beautiful, beautiful. No, don't compliment them. They don't deserve it. Explain myself. This is actually terrifying. It is scary, isn't it? Amazing. Honestly, they're really intimidating. They've not come in peace according to the Red. No. Oh, there's Davros. Oh, yeah, yeah. Keep him moving. Keep him moving. Keep him moving. Your mates are the back one to go. I can see Daleks scar. He's practically gagging for it. Come on, pal. This is the campus that Davros has ever looked. Davros himself has come. Tokyo drifting into Comic-Con. This one's got a bomb. How did he get past security? Yeah, I see you. Daleks scar. My God. Beautiful. He called me a loser. Bowed to you. You know what? That's uncool for. And you're just sitting there and saying, but defend me. You're the doctor. Right, you scar. It's time for you to get lost, I think. Okay. Yes, it is. Make you or push you. Wimp. Daleks having an allergic reaction. Absolute wimp. It's like when you touch the Genesis arc, it's just, he's going to burn. Correct. Yeah, hello, Davros. Oh, it's a pleasure. I look forward to defeating you for about the 24th time. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, no. I didn't even get to pluck the podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get out of it. Get out of it, you scar. This one didn't even get a turn. Yeah, retreat. Retreat. So we are going to get one last round of applause for the Daleks. They do deserve it. Emperor Dalek is spectacular and so are them all. So without further ado, we're going to start with our first segment, my friends. And there will also be a Q&A at the end. So think of questions, Doctor Who related, and we can head over to that microphone there. But that won't be for a little bit of a while. So I'm going to hand it over to the lovely Jack Debbich. Give him a hand. Thank you, everyone. Well, I just realized, you know what year this is? It's the 60th anniversary. Oh, my God. I know. I've blown away. But the three specials, we've got the Starbeast. We've got the Wild Blue Yonder. I think so. And we've got the Giggle. So the Giggle. The Giggle. How do we think about the Giggle? It's a strange title, isn't it? One. Yeah, it's a bit of a strange title, but I want to know what's everyone thinking so far from what we've seen from the 60th specials? I think it's obviously very fair to say the first one is going to be all about Beat the Meep, which is... Beat the Meep. Beat the Meep. Pick up Beat the Meep. I can't wait to beat the Meep. Which, I mean, if you told me five years ago we get Beat the Meep in the actual TV show, I would have said, well, who's Beat the Meep? Yeah, I had no idea. That's exactly what I would have said. I think most people would. So I think it's great to see that we're going to have sort of parts of the EU, you know, sort of exporting the actual TV show again, which is quite nice and adapted in this sense. So I mean, I'm interested to see where that goes. I don't think we're going to any multi-doctor stuff for a start. Oh, really? I don't think we are. Not even Matt Smith? No. It hurts me to say it. Oh. It hurts me so much. I think... I think we are. I think we're getting Matt Smith. I think Capaldi's a stretch. Yeah. I think... and I think maybe a couple of classics. Maybe. I'm optimistic. Okay. I think we're going to get a wild time. I think we're going to get a lot of... a lot of familiar faces coming back. Yeah. Jody? Do you think maybe Jody? Jody could be. Hands up. Who thinks another doctor other than Tennant will appear in the 60s? Show of hands. Oh, oh. Hands down. I want to be right. I want to be wrong. I want to be wrong. Hands down if you think it's Jody. Okay, we'll see. We'll see how we go. I think it's going to be Hartnell somehow. Read your board. Either by David Bradley or by Dark Magic. Yeah. That is the only way it's going to happen. Oh, yeah. It seemed like it would appear as a phantom. That could happen. Yeah. That could happen. Well, we've discussed our general theories about the 60s. What's been the overall thoughts of the footage that we've seen so far? The trailers are great. Yeah. The trailers are very exciting. It's exciting that we're getting quite a lot of stuff compared to previous years. Yeah. We're getting quite a lot of promotional material and a lot of announcements, but we still don't really know anything like special two. We know nothing about it. We've got no footage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's really exciting. That's really exciting. And we've got footage of Beep the Meep. I'm just going to keep talking about Beep the Meep because I can't believe it's happening. This is now a Beep the Meep panel. Yeah. If you are not on board, you may leave at any point. This is now only Beep the Meep. Well, I'm drooling. No, I think that is really exciting to think that we know so much about the 60s, but then we actually know so little at the same time, because, yeah, we have that second special where we know nothing. We were saying this at the time when Ben Beep the Meep was announced, or not even announced, we just saw the pictures, and we're like, is that Beep the Meep? What is happening? Well, they could be doing that stuff there whilst they're recording the most fantastical, amazing, multi-doctor adventure in a studio around the corner. But we're just all looking at that crazy little star beast. Yeah. Maybe Beep the Meep's not even in it. Complete smokescreen. It's Matt Smith in that suit. Imagine, imagine. He takes it off. Hello, everybody. It's me. That'd be the best. And you know what? I love your segues into your impressions. It's all I've got, Josh. It's all I have. You know what, though? I kind of like how we've all kind of collectively decided that Neil Patrick Harris is playing the Celestial Toy Maker. I don't think he is. Oh, really? You have to go against us, Josh. I do, yeah. I do. And I think that could be a smokescreen. OK. Definitely. OK. And I don't know who he is. OK. He's Neil Patrick Harris. Maybe, yeah. Maybe he's playing the actor Neil Patrick Harris. Yeah. I mean, that would be breaking the fourth wall. It could be the master, because you know... If he's the master, I'm out immediately. I'm done with that man. We've had a lot of master. We love the master. Don't get me wrong. We love him, but give him a rest. Yeah. You know, lie in a regeneration cemetery. Could be the running. The running. It's always the running. Yeah, the running. It's always the running. Honestly, if there's any man actor that could do it, Neil Patrick Harris could do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. So, to kind of move on and look at the future, obviously in the sixth year of specials, we'll see the debut of the new doctor, the new new doctor, Shuti Gatwar as well. Oh, yeah, Shuti. I'm so excited. You know, I don't know how he's going to appear. Is it going to be a hallucination? Is it going to be... He's going to share a few scenes with Tenon? It's got to be the edge. That's my guess. The audience of the edge, I'd be shocked. Yeah. I think he's actually going to be playing Ken from Barbie. Oh, yes. Got our Barbie movie plug-in. I'm glad you've mentioned that. Now we can segue into the Barbie segment of this panel. Change the graphics to the Barbie graphics now, guys. Yeah. But, yeah, I think, you know, we're Shuti appearing in the sixth year as well. You know, there's a lot of focus on, you know, what is kind of viewed by the public as Doctor Who's golden age, you know, with Tenon, Catherine Tay, a lot of, you know, familiar faces, but also looking forward to the future. And I want to know, like, what do you think Shuti will bring to the role as we look towards the future? I mean, an audience is the main thing. Yeah. Because, I mean, Jodie Zera brought in such a new fan base, as did Tenon, as did Smith, as did even Capaldi. Yeah. But Shuti's stardom is huge in comparison, because even Tenon, when he was cast, he was known. He was in Harry Potter and such. But, like, Shuti is so much bigger now than Tenon was when he started. So the interest... I can't wait to see the ratings, basically, when it happens, which sounds even nerdier than what we're already talking about. Oh, I can't wait to see the ratings. But I'm very excited to see how it changes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think, like you say, the audience is going to be the big thing. I've already seen people that are big fans of his previous work be like, I'm going to watch Doctor Who for Shuti now. And I think that's fantastic to have that new influx of people that can go back and fall in love with the show like many of us did back in 2005, for example. You know, he can be there, Christopher Eccleston, which was just fantastic. Oh, same that for the first time. Yeah. And it's not just Shuti bringing new... I feel like every casting announcement is bringing an entirely new audience with it. Yeah. You've got, like even Millie Gibson, like people who are tuning in to watch Coronation Street every night. Yeah. You know, they might go, oh, you know, I'm going to see what she does. And Jinx Monsoon coming in and bringing in all the people from RuPaul's Drag Race. The Rani. The Rani. It's going to be the Rani. If it's not, I'd be shocked. Jonathan Groff is the Rani. Jonathan Groff as well. Oh, actually, yes. Surely not Jonathan Groff, Rani. Clean sweep. But yeah, there's so many big names coming in. And, you know, we've got some really good directors lined up as well. We don't know much about the writing staff. But I just think even if... I'm sure I'll have issues with it like I have with every era of Doctor Who. But I think it's going to be the most widely appealing series of Doctor Who that's been on since probably the Eccleston and Tenant eras. Yeah. Totally. Totally, totally. So, just to round up everything then, are you guys excited for the future of Doctor Who? No. Oh, wow. Oh, oh, oh, oh. I'm very excited for the future of Doctor Who. I...to think that number one we have, David Tenant back, you know, my childhood doctor, I'm watching that with him returning to Capron Tate, is already fantastic. But then also to think that this total revival of the show in the sense that it's going to be revolutionary when Chuti comes in. I think it really is. I think we're going to see it everywhere. So, yeah, I'm very excited. I'm also very, very excited. Yeah, I'm excited for a little bit of fan service this year. Yeah. Celebrate the 60th. Get a few old faces back for a few specials. And, you know, there's loads of other things going on. Like, we're getting loads of expanded universe stuff that I'm excited for. And then next year just kick off into this mad new era of, you know, Doctor Who on Disney. That's going to be weird. I know, Doctor Who on Disney Plus. Who would have thought? Mickey Mouse cameo. Who knows? Who knows? I heard a groan and a no. Honestly, can't argue with that. Is that...? Yes. OK, well, we can move on to the next segment called Battles in Fandom. Give it up for Jack Alexander. Thank you. Yes. An awful lot of running, which I'm wearing here, our very first piece of merch, is a... It's a discussion-based podcast where myself and my co-coast Robin talk about lots of things, Doctor Who, review things. But we also do a debate-style show. If anyone watched movie fights back in the day, we've not ripped that off at all and made it about Doctor Who. Do not send their lawyers our way. But we do something like that now where we pose the Doctor Who debate question and then we have Whovians debate it and basically try and kill each other in the fight, as it were. So, yeah, we've got some questions for you today, boys, and we're going to do things in a very sort of speed, round sort of way. So it's going to be whoever I come to first is going to have their question. It's basically have the question. So the first question, if we come to it now, after that one, thank you. Here you go. So, which of the big three villains, Daleks, Cybermen, The Master, should be retired until the 70th anniversary? Now, before I come to you all, let me show you what you'll be winning today if you do win our three rounds. A golden figure of David Tennant. Beautiful. If I don't win that, I'm going to be mad at myself. And a golden figure of Drain the Rock Johnson. Beautiful. I am going to provide zero context for this. You have to listen to the podcast. Just so you know, I'm livid at that. And if you listen to the podcast, you will know why. Yes. So, I'm going to come to you, Jack. Okay. That does not narrow it down. There's three Jacks. We need to differentiate. You are going to get 20 seconds to present your initial argument to everyone here. I might just say, I'm going to ask you all to help me on the judging of these today because... Vote me. I want those figures, man. Because my judging has often been called into question. So, today, I can blame it on all of you. Again, that time already. Right, yes, time is ready. He's just on his phone. Let's see how bored these people are. Just walking by. No problem, you got it, baby. Okay. So, what's your answer, first of all, before you start? The Cybermen. Right. And you have 20 seconds for your initial argument. Go. Because they're always paired with the master. I mean, that pretty much sums it up because they're not given enough time to shine. And there's always the same ideas, the same tropes that are being told. And I feel like giving them a much needed rest, allow them to come back on their own, that's the best thing for them to do. Have them show up at the 16th quarter. Stop, stop, stop. Just made it. Okay. Josh, I'm going to come to you next. Hello. So, what's your answer? I'm going to say the master. Oh, okay. Oh, no. Your 20 seconds starts now. We've seen the master so many times over the past few years. We've had three different incarnations in the past eight or so years. I feel like it's a little bit too much. And also I think the character itself would benefit from a little bit of a break. And also, you know, the master is always paired with the Cybermen. So give the Cybermen a bit of time to shine instead. Stop. I feel teamed up here now. Yeah, good luck. So, Jack, you're obviously left with the final villain, that being the Daleks. If I die now, they're all looking at me now. Game on. Let's do it. Right. Your 20 seconds starts now. I'm not going to argue that the Daleks are not iconic. I mean, look at them. They're absolutely gorgeous. But do you remember that time during sort of series five, series seven? We were sick of those things. All the bronze Daleks. Give them 10 years off. Bring them back with a brand new design or the paradigm for the love of God. Please bring back the paradigm. And then we'll be love them again. Imagine that. Fresh faces, fresh eyes. Stop. Don't even need 20 seconds. Didn't even need. Stop. Order. Stop. You can't just chat nonsense and try and convince people by standing up. Josh. Energy. Order. Order. I've got tired legs. Josh. You all be disqualified. Right. Ouch. I should say to you all now, this will be based on the argument, not which pick you think is best. You have to base it on who you think has the best argument. Okay? Boys, you'll have two minutes now to have a very mini, mini debate fight. Your time starts now. Can we turn this into a physical fight? No. Oh, boy. I don't want to lose. Christ. Okay. I'll start. The Daleks are iconic, as you said. And the Daleks, I think, are probably one of the villains that you could bring back. And you can always do something a little bit fresh with them. I feel like the Masters are a little bit one now. They can be a bit of a Panto villain sometimes. One now. Missy. Missy exists. Yeah, Missy exists. Oh, I love Missy. But the Daleks are so iconic, they can take a week off, you know? Yeah. Like, they will stick around forever. The Cybermen and the Masters, you need the odd reminder every once in a while. So I don't think they should be retired for 10 years. Well, I don't know, to be fair, with the Cybermen, I've always found, especially, you know, with that series five to seven, and then every finale since then, they're cropping up. Maybe retire them, or, as a cheeky little leeway, with a potential more adult spin-off, we could do some body horror with them, like maybe in the unit spin-off. Exactly. That's why they shouldn't take time off. Exactly. They shouldn't take time off. Can you break from Doctor Who? The Cybermen have only had, have only had a couple of really, really, really good stories in New Who. They need a chance to shine. Out of the shadow of the Master, like you said. The Master's the thing that always brings the Cybermen down. And I think taking the Master out of it, giving the Cybermen a bit of time to shine, and also just moving away from time-lord stuff for a little while, is going to be beneficial for the Master. Well, if you take the Master out of the equation, what's going to be like the next big cliff angle? Because let's be honest. The Rani. The Rani! Or the Toymaker. I know that's not a time-lord, but it's on the same vein as big, weird stuff. Just bring in a new character. Bring someone new in. True. I mean, I would love to see that. I would love to see, like, you know, a new time-lord character created. Like, there's... Order! Order! ...ruined up. Are you taking orders? I'll have a 10-piece chicken nugget. So, okay, this is where you're going to help me now, everyone, okay? If you think that Nerdden Jack's argument was best, please give a cheer now. Yay! It's a good start. Very good start. That is solid. If you think that Josh Carr's argument was best, give a cheer now. Oh, look at that! He's won. Don't worry about that. That is very good. Down with the Master. If you think that Jack Rees' performance was best, give a cheer now. Oh, that was me. That's the toy. That was me. Absolutely. I think we know who won that. I do think that actually, Josh, I'm very sorry. I wasn't expecting it. I think that means that Jack is going to go through to the final round. Excuse me? I've been robbed. Hello. You can sit this round out. Oh, do what? Yes! So, this is going to be a two-on-two fight this time. Josh and Jack Nerdden are going to fight to see if they go into a final round with Jack to win the wonderful Gold David Tenet and Golden... Is this the physical fight? No, this is not. This is the mud wrestling, yeah. Bring out the mud. So, next question is up on the board, as you can see. Which previous doctor should have returned instead of David Tenet as the 14th doctor for the 60th anniversary? Lenny Henry. You don't have an answer this round. Remember, you can sit it out. Right. Good. Right. Josh. As soon as I went to Jack first on the first round, you can go first this round. Who is your pick for 14th doctor? Paul McGann. Yeah, that's a shout. That's a shout. Very, very popular choice. Your 22nd start now. Paul McGann didn't get enough time as the 8th doctor, and I feel like bringing back a doctor that's already very popular and has already had three series and is in all of the expanded media is a bit of a kick in the teeth to the doctor that's not had enough screen time. So, bringing back as an all-new incarnation. We know that he can play many different types of doctor. And my God, he's lovely to look at. Stop, stop. Lovely. I quite agree with that final point. Of course you do. I'm sure many people here as well, too, as well. Right. Jack. Hello. Who is your pick for 14th doctor, then? Joe Martin. Oh! This, the stakes just raised very much. So, my goodness. Okay. Jack, your 22nd starting now. Joe Martin just deserves more screen time. She was amazing in fugitive of the Jadoon. She was amazing in her cameo appearances in series 12 and the power of the doctor. She just needs more time to shine. And if she doesn't get a spin-off series, I would love to see her be the 14th doctor and own at least one series. I know. That's your time up there. Whoa. Very well, Perts. Right, boys, your two minutes begins now. Right. Do you want to start this, Josh? No, you go. Okay. So, I think Joe Martin would just be amaze balls because I know Paul McGahn, yeah, he's had limited screen time, but he's also made a few comebacks. You know, he's had his own mini-soad. He's had his power of the doctor plug-in, which was still longer than Joe Martin's. So I feel like Joe Martin, getting at least one series to shine or the special, sorry, as the 14th doctor, that would be pretty cool. And as well, you could wrap up the timeless child story by walking around about it as well. Yeah. But Paul McGahn, bringing Paul McGahn back, is the perfect midpoint in Doctor Who to bring it back because you can go on to celebrate Classic Who from there. It's sort of a similar way that the war doctor acted in Day of the Doctor as the bridge between Classic and New. Yeah. That Paul McGahn's sort of at that point as well. And also, you said about the timeless child arc. Yeah. I think you could do Time War stuff. And Time War stuff is going to be much, much more popular and more exciting. For a 60th anniversary to kick things off, I think the timeless child, we've had a lot of it over the past few years. And I think Paul McGahn would offer something different. And also, he's a fantastic actor that could do something different with a doctor every time he turns up. Yeah, that's about it. I mean, I get the point about the time. Do you can see the point then? Okay. I win. That's it. I get it. But Joe Martin, you know, she still is technically a fresh face, a very much so of a fresh face that we've barely tapped into that potential that is just seething at the surface that I feel like, oh, that would be really cool to see in the 60th anniversary alongside some former doctors. But also, bringing Paul McGahn means that you can bring in so much of that great stuff from Big Finish. And you can bring in characters from Big Finish. You can canonize extended universe stuff. And there we are. And there's your time. Yeah, very good. Very good. I didn't have to shout all that time. I've got my answer. I'm going into the audience. That's usually my line. This is tough, my goodness. Right. Okay then. I'm glad I'm not judging this one. I'll tell you now. If you think that Josh's pick of Paul McGahn is the best answer, please, or sorry, best argument. If you think his argument was best, that's what we're judging it on. Please cheer now. A very respectable cheer there. If you think that Jack's answer of Joe Martin, or sorry, his argument was best, please cheer now. What? Oh no. Oh yes. I've been battered. This is a turn up for the book. In my mind, I had you go right to the end, Josh. I'm very sorry. This is my villain origin story. Right here. I'm a master now. I've come full circle. I'm sorry, Josh. It's not time to take a ten year break. This does mean that. And I say this with love and respect. You are a fake fan now. Oh yeah. Jack's out. Right and that does mean that Jack Nerdent and Jack Rees are going to go to our final round together. And they're going to face off talking about what is the best Doctor Who anniversary special. Right. Let's go. Tell you what, let's stand up for this one. Oh okay. Here we go. Scum. Rap battles of history. This is like a boxing weigh-in. Square up to each other. Okay. So I guess I'm going to come to you, Jack, seeing as you're on the first round. Hi. What is your pick for best anniversary special? Take a wild guess. Day of the Doctor. Woo. Popular choice. Your 20 seconds start now. I mean what, yes it doesn't indeed include a lot of Classic Who. I'm going to get that out of the way. But what it does do is perfectly summate all of from RTD to Moffat and what would even later become with Chibnall. It is beautifully made, beautifully directed as well. The acting is superb across the board. Yes, poor McGann could have been in it. Stop, stop. That was not a good start. You might put it back, you never know. Over to you, Jack. What is your pick? The Five Doctors. Woo. Classic Who fans will be very happy with that one. And your 20 seconds start now. Well, you know, there's a lot of representation from many parts of the Classic Era from the First Doctor to the Fifth Doctor. You know, we've got Richard Herndle being the first actor to play a different version of the First Doctor. We have the Yeti. We have the Sidemen. We have the Master. We had a brief glimpse of the Daleks, Time Lords. There was a lot going. And that's your time. Okay. That was timed perfectly, Jack. Oh, thank you. And for the final time to decide who our winner is Fight. Me in the middle. All right. Okay. So, Day of the Doctor, why is the Five Doctors better? Give me one reason. Patrick Tron. But does yours have David Tennant, Matt Smith, and John Hurt, the triple threat? Actually, Technically Tron is in that one, in Day of the Doctor. In fact, all of them are. That's a reach. But also, why has re-use scenes from Sharda for Tom Baker and... That's not a sell. Oh, you had to re-use the teacher. Sharda's fight, I got it. That was all 100% sorted. I'm pretty sure Day of the Doctor re-uses footage as well. Oh, excuse me, Josh. You're not in this fight. Is it your time to talk? Is it his time to talk? If I'm going down, you're coming down with me. Oh. I mean, Day of the Doctor, yes. It is not the best with Classic To Who representation. I will give you that. However, again, from RTD through to Moffat, it is a perfect summation of all that era and a fantastic era at that. Classic To Series, it has a lot of fan service, but it doesn't tell a very good story. The story of the Five Doctors is five men walk into a castle. They win. They win. But it is very beautifully done. Very beautifully done. Thank you. I liked my prance. Yeah, you know, a very swaying with the story. I'm distracting him. But also, we've got, you know, we've got loads of Time Lord lore. You know, we get brief glimpses of the Time War in Day of the Doctor, but with the Five Doctors, we're in the death zone, baby. I'm glad the Time War isn't in it, though, because if you film the Time War, it makes it less interesting than it is just to imagine. So just seeing some Daleks blown up, that's good for me, my man. The parts that I saw did make it less awesome for me. Was that supposed to be a zinger because the crowd didn't hear it? Yeah, the parts of the Day of the Doctor that, you know, had the Time War in, it kind of killed the Time War for me personally. Well, not for me. I think it's great. Ah! But to wrap it up, we had Patrick Shrouten, Fraser Hines, Elizabeth Sladen as well. So, you know, Sarah Jane for life. And that's our wrap it up. And that's our lovely point to end on, because that is time for that. You didn't use the Raston Warrior robot while... I forgot about that! The winner! That would have been a real slam dunk, you know. Be kind, my friends. Be kind. OK, then. So for the final time, and deciding who wins Golden David Tennant and Golden the Rock, if you think that Jack Reeves' argument was best, please cheer now! Ah! I love you. Yes! That's respectable. If you think that Jack's nerd-den argument was best, please cheer now! Yeah! Whoa! I didn't even want it! I didn't even want that dolled! Wow! Jack Reeves! I was playing the Rock Johnson done us for a second time. Well, this was a plot twist. Jack Reeves, you are a fake fan. Yeah, I know. Jack, congratulations. You are not only Top Docky Hoo fan of MCM Comic-Con. You are also the winner of the Golden David Tennant and the Golden Dwayne the Rock Johnson! Yes! Mama made it! Whoo! And now, my friends, we move on to the second-to-last segment. Also, have a think of questions. Now you may wish to ask Doctor Who related obstacles. And if you have a question, head over to the microphone just over there, as it's usually the way, and get ready. But before that, Mr. Josh Carr, explain what we're going to do. So, I host a podcast called Who Knew? A Doctor Who podcast where I interview wonderful people from in and around the world of Doctor Who about the show, about their time on the show, if they have been on it. And sometimes I speak to people like Jack Reeves. I'm so sorry. In an act of charity, more than anything. Okay. But we've got a couple of features on the show. One of the main ones is the corridor of fame, which we do have a little graphic for, I believe. There we go. That's the corridor. The corridor of fame. There it is. So, the corridor of fame is basically a hall of fame for Doctor Who where each of my guests submit someone to join the corridor. So, there's loads of people. All of the doctors are already in. You've got Elizabeth Sladen in there. You've got Janet Fielding. You've got Stephen Moffat. So, there's loads of names in here. And what we're going to do is we're going to do a little competition. These three have picks for people to enter the corridor of fame. And, again, we're going to do a little cheering system and see who deserves to go in. So, Jack, again, doesn't narrow it down, but I'm going to go to you first. Who would you like to submit to the corridor of fame? The much-loved Peter Capaldi companion, Pearl Mackie. Oh, great pick. Why do you want to put Pearl in the corridor of fame? Because she's just so nice. She seems like such a nice person. I mean, first of all, I was just happy to see Clara go personally. I don't know if that will turn the tides here. But when Bill came along, Series 10 as a whole just felt like such a breath of fresh air and all in no small part due to Bill, who I really didn't think I would like. When the first initial teaser came out in the first episode, I was like, oh, she likes serving chips and stuff. All right, good for you. But as the series went on, I fell in love with her and then cried when she died. Oh, my God. But yes, Pearl Mackie, please. Great pick. Great. But what do you two think about Pearl Mackie? Great pick. I have to agree. Absolutely. You know, Bill's probably my favourite new hook companion. Oh. Yeah, I mean, Pearl's up there for me as well. And also because she had one of the strongest exit stories as well. Yeah. It's a nice self-contained story in Series 10. Even though what I'd like to have seen more of her, I think it is wrapped up neatly. It is, yeah. I think as well, the fact that Bill was a lesbian companion for representation, it was just... I mean, it's what we should be having all the way through the show. I like how this group of people is currently talking about representation. Yeah. Welcome to the whitest panel you've ever seen. 3,000 of Josh. 3,000 of Josh. You've ever seen. Apologies. Jack, who would you like to submit to the Corridor Affair? Ella Watts, creator and director of Doctor Who Redacted. Oh, that's a good one. Great. For people that don't know, Doctor Who Redacted is a scripted audio drama podcast which was put out through BBC Sounds last year with the main focus being very gay, very trans. And as a story, it's not only wonderful, but it is exactly that. And it's giving that injection of just diversity and inclusion and everything that we should be celebrating as a fandom. And it's inherent to Doctor Who, so it's something we should be seeing all the time. And that's all due to Ella who, unfortunately we know isn't returning to series 2 of Doctor Who Redacted. Yeah. But I think that in the initial output of Doctor Who Redacted, even though she was the creator and the director, she was very much an unsung hero. So I feel that, and especially after listening to her on your podcast as well, Josh. Thank you for the blog. Which was an excellent episode. I have to say one of my favourites. I felt that she's so worthy of going into that hall of fame. She should so be celebrated as one of the icons of Doctor Who's history. I completely agree. Like I said, when I had her on and we spoke about Redacted, it's so clear that that whole show, it's just amazing. You know, it's such a brilliant idea. And it's all from her. It all came from her brain. She created it, she produced it, she directed it. She got all of the people on board. And the fact she's not returning for series 2 does put a little bit of a damp squib on it for me. But yeah, what do you two think? Have you listened to Redacted? Me personally, no. I'm just sort of on the outside for the audio space. So I was keeping quiet. No, that's fine. Have you listened to it? Yeah, I have, yeah. And what one thing I liked about Redacted is that it acted as like sequels of Doctor Who episodes that you never expected to get sequels, like Smith and Jones and, you know, but even the Bannerman Road Gang as well, which I thought was very innovative, something that hasn't been done before. And yeah, it was just a really unique idea. Yeah, the fan service in it is really nice and not too heavy and in your face, but it's really nicely handled. Jack. Okay. Our last entry. Who would you like to submit to the Corridor of Fame? Mine is Annette Badland. Oh, great one. Wonderful. So obviously Margaret, Margaret the Slavine from series 1. Barnard Bell, Foch, Passamere, Day Slavine. Who brought the name? Who brought the name? How many times have you done that in front of the mirror before coming here today? Not enough, but God, I remembered it. So why would you like to submit Annette Badland? Because I love her in the series 1 episodes, Aliens in London, World War 3 and Boomtown. They're a tremendous trilogy of episodes. The Slavine are incredibly underrated and, you know, I like the aspect of in the two-parter. You know, she was a very family-orientated person. You know, she had her goals alongside her family. They wanted to dominate the earth, crush it. And then in Boomtown, she's isolated. She's a completely different character. She is so selfish, but then she starts to become human because she spent so much time in that skin that she kind of forgot who she is. And then there's that nice little redemption arc at the end. And Annette's acting there. It just flourishes. And the scenes with her and Eccleston are topped here, like in the restaurant. That's one of my favourite bits. That's the best part of the episode. It is one of my favourite part of series 1, oh my God. Yeah, definitely. So that's our picks. I feel cruel not giving it to one of you. But I mean, why not anyway? Who thinks that Pearl Mackey deserves to be in the Corridor of Fame? That's quite good. Who thinks that Ella Watts deserves to be in the Corridor of Fame? That was low, eh? But who thinks that Annette Badland deserves to be in the Corridor of Fame? OK. Who thinks because it's all about celebrating the 60th anniversary, and I definitely wasn't always going to do this anyway, who thinks I should put all three in the Corridor of Fame? The one time I win? Yeah, let's put all three in anyway. So, yeah, they're all in the Corridor of Fame and they all deserve to be celebrated. And if you want to hear more of that, we do that all the time on Hoonay. Fantastic. And now, of course, we have some questions and we are going to speedily answer, my friends, because we are running low on time. So, first person, what's your question? Hi. In the initial promotion for the next series, which you, the guy, were, when we first saw him, we saw that costume of his. As more photos have been leaked to him or even officially released or whatnot, all different costumes, which I'm not even going to say variants because they're significantly different. Now, according to a guy I was talking to at Project Dalek, there's actually, I don't know how he knows this is true, but supposedly there's two reasons why for this. One, Disney money, and two, merchandising. So, if that's true, how do you feel about the idea? There's wholesome reasons there. How do you feel about the idea of having what is effectively a multi-costumes, the first multi-costumes doctor, and alternatively, maybe the Americanisation of sorts of doctor, or Disney-ification of doctor, if any of this is true. I love the different versions. Different versions, I think, are excellent. It's yet to be seen whether Disney has a massive strangle of Russell T. Davis, whether they've got him by the throat. What do you guys think? I agree. I feel sorry for all cosplayers. And character options. Poor Dominic. Character options are in trouble. I mean, all of the costumes have been amazing so far, so I'm very, very excited to see all of them in action, and hopefully a few more. Why not? Jack Alexander? Yeah, I'm loving it. I'm absolutely... I think it's fantastic. I agree. We can't quite say just how much Disney are involved at the minute. You know, it's... I think maybe there's definitely a budget increase, but will that's just from bad wolf themselves anyway, and deals that happen? I'm not sure, but I'm loving everything. I'm absolutely loving it. Fantastic. Nerdden? Yeah, I'm loving all what I'm seeing as well. But the one thing that I'm hoping for with all these suits is I want to see more Doctor Who pop figures. That's what I want to see. Bring them all. The meat pop figure, please. Thank you very much for your question. Next question, the flag. The Timeless Child episode. Timeless Child, let's go yay or nay to Timeless Child, just as a concept. Nerdden. Yay. Jack Alexander. Yay. Josh Carr. Yay. Thank you for your question, though. Fantastic. Next question. Hello, Jack, Jack and Josh. How are you guys? We're so good. Fantastic. As in the Starbeast, we're going to be getting Beep the Meep and the Waf. Waf. The Warrior Robots. Do you think we're going to be seeing any more comic companions such as Frobisher or Josephine Day or Shaney. Oh, how are the big talking birds? I want Frobisher. Or who do you guys want? I want Frobisher. Just Frobisher. Just Frobisher. Honestly, get rid of the Doctor, get rid of the companions, get rid of the Master and all of them. Just give me Frobisher. I think we're all in agreement here. Especially with the Disney budget as well. Yeah. Hell yeah. Just give me a big talking penguin. Just in general, just in life. And as well, if we're reaching into the EU and getting things in the comics, let's get some stuff from Big Finish as well. Let's have some Big Finish companions for me. Charlie, anyone? Oh, Charlie Pollard, yes. Thank you very much for your question. Next question, my friend. Well, my question was going to be very much along those lines of what from the expanded media that you want to see. So I'll change it slightly and say what would you like to see from Doctor Who? What's the most ridiculous thing you'd like to see which is absolutely not going to happen but you still want it? All doctors sharing an entire episode together. Like, there's a bunch of them online. Like the 10 Doctors by Batman March and the upcoming Timeless Doctors which looks spectacular. But I want to see it's never going to happen for so many reasons. We'd need to go and dig up Patrick Trouton. Mainly that, yes. And I'm not bold enough to do that personally. But the idea is inherently fun to me. You guys? I'm going to go quite... I don't know if this is controversial because I think it's never going to happen but I'd quite like them to just spin off the Sonic. Completely... I'm sorry. Spin off the Sonic, yeah, get rid. But think of the merchandising. I know! Capitalism, really. Mickey Mouse will come for you. It's a good idea. What else are they going to sell me? The World of Fiction. You know, from the time... Yeah, the World of Fiction return and have Super Hoolock happen! Listen to the silence there. That ship has sailed from Tumblr. That's for the Tumblr fans, that is. You know what? But a weird thing for Doctor Who to do, I would like to see them do... I know they've only done it recently but I would like to see them do a massive ongoing story arc for a series. But instead of six episodes, do eight or nine or something like that. I think that would be pretty cool for them to do. Good ideas all around and thank you very much for your question. Thank you. Next up, your question. Hello, firstly, to Sarah's point we talked about Barbie graphics and I didn't see something that said this Barbie is a doctor but it's okay. So I wanted to ask about... I've been wanting there to be Doctor Who open auditions for my entire life. It hasn't happened. So the quick question is Doctor Who open auditions, yes or no? What do you think about that was a thing? I'm not sure. Any thoughts? I'm all in. Why not? You want to be the doctor? Josh Carr Doctor? I'd go dressed as Frobisher. Dressed as a big penguin and just say I'll only be cast as Frobisher. Excellent. It's a very Frobisher and beat the Meep centric panel and good. I'd like to see it happen because I think it could be sometimes there are people who wouldn't necessarily get that opportunity unless they have that there who could be amazing. You look at something they did with Ports Awakens back in the day when they held our open auditions for that they had hundreds and thousands of people go for that and I think they picked a couple from that even because of the chance I think. I think that being a thing would be really cool and as you said Jack as well it would give more people a chance to be a part of the show. I think that would be amazing and very innovative. Positive all around. Thank you. I have one last question which is about your experience in Doctor Who fandom. I see all sides on Twitter because it's Twitter. I was wondering about how you found that personally. It's just mixed. It's such a big fandom that you're going to see a wide range of people with a wide range of views maybe less so here but unfortunately the fandom is too big to not have a few bad ex. Yeah. I love it for what it is but I'm definitely when drama kicks off and all of that I duck out very quickly and try not to get involved anymore. But yeah I think it's a really really nice place if you just try and stay on the nice side of it you know don't dive too deep into the dark. With drama and things like that I usually judge it by if I told my wife this is she going to say oh yeah that's real drama or this is silly by the way my wife is here and it's our wedding anniversary so please please thank her with me because it's our wedding anniversary she's chosen to be here with all of us so yeah thank you Jody. And lastly a lesson quick. I've had mainly a positive experience with the Doctor Who fandom on Twitter however just as you two have said there's a fair bit of drama and it is best to stay out of it because at the end of the day is it really worth saying something that you wouldn't say to someone face to face you know so we don't have a lot of time but thank you for your question I think we have time for two more so I'm very very sorry my friends I am very very sorry but the con will close in like 10 minutes much love to you though nice and quick. Do you think Beat the Meep will return after the 60th anniversary? Yes. I hope so Thank you for your question and last but not least if you could pick one Doctor and one companion from any series to combine into one whole what would it be? Eccleston and Donna Eccleston and Vicky Oh that's I like that Tennant and Ace Oh nice and Tennant and Amy Have a very horny time and that is it my friends thank you very much for coming get home nice and safe Thank you everyone Thank you