 Yeah. So a second topic today is Nintendo announced something that is very weird, to be honest, the 2DS XL. And it releases on July 28th. It costs $149.99. Essentially what it is, is a new Nintendo 3DS XL without 3D, which, you know, the 2DS is a 3DS without 3D, except it doesn't have a clamshell design. This does have a clamshell design. It is quite literally a new Nintendo 3DS XL. You mean an ergonomic design. A new ergonomic clamshell design, you know, you mean just like the 3DS. So the reason I think it's such a weird announcement is I'm trying to understand the marketplace for this system. So it costs $149.99. The original 2DS costs $129.99, and that's often, especially during the holidays, discounted to $99. The 2DS, because it just releases this year, the 2DS XL, I'm sorry, probably won't have any discounts this holiday since it just came out, or it will be just coming out. I don't understand. I mean, okay, to frame things, you and me are not exactly excited about 3DS as it is right now, because the Switch has kind of sapped our excitement away from the 3DS. And we talked last week about how, what could bring us back? We know it was certain games that could bring us back. The 2DS XL is not something that's going to bring you back, obviously, because I already own a 3DS. And what I want to try to figure out, and maybe you can help me, is what's Nintendo doing? What's the market for another 2DS that is literally a 3DS XL without 3D? Which, again, I understand the market for the without 3D. Yeah. What I don't understand is, like, why does, like, you already have the 2DS XL, which was built to be more durable, harder to break for kids. And the clamshell has always been easier to break. So it's obviously going to be for older kids, but older kids can have 3D. Yeah. You just have to be over the age of six. Yeah. So, I mean, what's the point? That it's $20 cheaper than 3DS? Yeah. And even 3DS is used, you can get them for, like, $150 and under? Yeah, I don't, I really have no clue where they're going with this. Yeah, you did. No, it's, I'm just really confused. I'm not confused in what Nintendo's clear messaging here is. And it's that 3DS isn't going anywhere. They're going to keep that thing going. As much as I feel like they need to stop, they're not. They're not going to listen to me. Nintendo's going to do what they do. Yeah. So, good on them. Kudos. Yada, yada, yada. Congratulations, Nintendo. But I just don't understand. I guess the only market I could see for this is, if you're a kid that got the 2DS and you feel like you're the loser at your school, because everyone else is the 3DS clamshell. But you're still going to be the loser at school without 3D. Yeah, but the reality is the 3D, if parenting is done right, it's probably been turned off. But yeah, I was going to say, even then, even though I had a 3DS, I don't think I ever, hardly ever took on a 3D. Now, see, that's a point there. If you're someone out there that wants to get a 3DS and wants to get it cheap, but you don't care about 3D, this could fit into the market. Yeah, that would be about the only market I could see besides maybe some kids, but. I still don't, that's the thing. I don't care about the 3D. Is it really that big of a market, though? I don't know. Well, okay, to put it this way, I think, based on my experience being around other people who play 3DS, I'm pretty sure it's like 80% of 3DS players don't really care about the 3D. I mean, maybe for a new game, they'll turn it off for a second and see how cool it is and then get bored of it. And the main reason is obviously because on the original 3DS, it was really easy to, it was really angle based on if the 3D worked or not, so it was really easy to bug out your eyes. The new 3DS fixed it with face tracking, and so like you could turn it a lot more and it stays like a good 3D image, so you don't get as big addicts. But still, it's kind of one of those things that 3D is more of a novelty. It's kind of like when you think of 3D movies, movies come on 3D versus 2D, the 2D movies always sell out before the 3D movies do. Right, I'm still, I still have yet really to find a 3D movie that really actually needs to be in 3D. Well, I don't think movies need to be in 3D. I think the idea of 3D, especially for like movies, and I didn't even say for video games now, is that it's supposed to make you feel more immersed, and if I feel like 3D is on half step, virtual reality is immersed. Like if they took a movie like Avatar, which is probably the only movie out there that made 3D almost feel like it improved the experience a little bit, if they could turn that into a virtual reality everywhere I look around me, I'm in the world of Avatar as this movie is going on, that would be cool. And that's what virtual reality video games are like. So I kind of feel like 3D doesn't matter anymore. I think it's cool that its glass is free 3D, but it's still just one of those things that I think the 3DS, if nothing else, has proven that 3D isn't a really mainstream thing anymore. I mean, how many 3D TVs do you even see out there right now? I mean, you can still find them online to buy, but you go to Walmart, maybe one, maybe. Usually you see 4K curved, you know, things that consumers actually care about instead of 3D. So I guess I understand where the 2DS XL fits in. But I feel like this is what it fit in like two years ago, better than it fits in today. Right. It seems like they're just trying to leg along the this type of handheld and just kind of Yeah. Okay. So Nintendo has done a lot of interesting things with 3DS in terms of like now you got faceplates for the new 3DS, the new 3DS XL and the old 3DS XL, you could buy like they like with every game that came out there like a new custom designed 3DS you can get like collectors or want to keep buying it. And I wonder if like the idea of the 2DS XL isn't necessary to build a bigger consumer base, but they just sell more 3DS units and make more money off of the same hardware to people who just got to own every type of 3DS. Yeah. And that feels weird because like why would Nintendo release a product that's such a limited audience that you know, doesn't have the money to keep buying all these 3DS hardware. But that's the thing I just at this point in time, I don't know what the point is of a 2DS XL. Again, yes, you know, $20, $50 cheaper, I guess that Nintendo 3DS XL, which is probably going to come down in price this year. And now that you say that, I thought the 3DS wasn't going anywhere. This to me kind of almost seems like a final nail in it because like you said, most people really don't care about the 3DS aspect of it. At least most people that I didn't know anyways, I'm sure there's people out there that do. Yeah, if you're in the audience and you love the 3DS right? No, definitely. It's cool. It is cool. But it is really cool. Especially like the using the 3D when you're doing the AR games. Yeah, that came with it came with 3DS. Yeah, that's cool. I wish there was more they did with that, right? Right. But this being, you know, how many dollars cheaper, I have a feeling that this is going to actually, you know, basically almost in a way, kill out the 3DS because if you can get for cheaper and you don't care about the 3D, why not? But at the same point, it's like, how could it kill the 3DS if everyone who wants it already has it? Like that's kind of where I am with the 3DS is yes, I realized the 3DS sold over 7 million units last year. Like that's that's great. Like that's millions of sales. But like how many of those were resales? Like people who used to want a 3DS sold it, got back to do it for Pokemon. Yeah, or one of the collectors edition Pokemon Southern Moon 3DS or something. Yeah, it's like one of those how many of these sales are just people who already own 3DS versus actual new customers. Right. And that's where I wonder is like, there has to be a cut off point for the 3DS eventually. If the Nintendo claims are going to keep running the switch and the 3DS simultaneously, they're going to have their own exclusive games. And there's going to be two separate markets. And that's fine. Nintendo has to say all this. I just, and maybe the 2DS XL is them trying to like re prove Hey, we're still dedicated to to pushing this 3DS unit. I just, I don't know what the end game here is. I was thinking it was the big money. But how much more money do they really think is in this 3DS market beyond, you know, games, which will sell to people who already own it. It's a tough position because we're both in a position where we don't really care as much about the system since the switch came out. So in the audience, you know, I'm not saying the 2DS XL is a bad system. I think if it had come out a couple years ago, that's the system I would own right now, instead of a new Nintendo 3DS XL. But that's just not the direction we're going in. See, Eric, a little upset over there. Sorry, shaking his head. But I don't really know what else there's to say. So are you excited for the 2DS XL? Let us know down in the comments below.