 Hey, guys, welcome back. Let's resume with the way we left off. We completed with page 63 in the chapter, chapter 6, on music and worship technology. We've covered all the sound equipment, sound component of the equipments that we discussed until monitor speakers in page 63 and the need of it. And I hope you were able to all just understand briefly what it does. And now moving on, I'm going to the next section, page 64. In this section, we're going to talk about the recording equipment for use in worship settings. The recording equipment for use in worship settings. What is the need for it? Now, in addition to the equipments mentioned in the above section, to record, you'll need a computer digital audio workstation, also known as DAW, DAW is another software that is used to record anything. It could be like a simple podcast if you want to record professionally and whatnot. So for anything that you want to record, you will need a digital audio workstation. And because this is not a sound engineering course, we're not going to go too much in detail about it. But everything that you need to know about this is available online. So it's like you can do a sound engineering course for free on YouTube. But yeah, you get all the more information over there. But whether you are a sound technician or a musician, a quality audio interface will always be a priority. A really good audio interface can make a huge difference to recordings, whether of live music, speech, podcasting, or a church service. Now, all of this, we've learned quite a lot about this in the last year and a half due to the pandemic, isn't it? All of a sudden, the churches in the rural areas or smaller churches that did not think that online recording will be useful, we suddenly had to learn that, hey, recording is very important. And for the most part, even last year, from the first wave hit, we prerecorded so many of our services at APC. So for you to be able to do all that and to continue to bless your congregation, this is important. Being able, knowing how to record, knowing the equipments that are used to record is very important. So one of which is the audio interface. And here are a few suggestions of the brands that you can look into. One is the Focusrite Scarlet 2.2. This is about $14,000 or so. It's a very small piece of equipment. But then again, like I said, the prices will range from your need and the brand, the quality of equipment that you need. And the softwares used for recording are, again, just mention a few is Pro Tools, Logic Pro, Cubase. There are a lot of free softwares out there that you can download for free to record your audio. So that is the audio component of it. And just moving on to the video part. When churches are first starting to stream, many will mount a single camera in the back of the sanctuary to capture their Sunday summits. The technology in these gadgets is great for single camera setups and will ensure that you put your best foot forward. So even if you don't feel like you totally know what you are doing yet. So having just one high-definition camera, if you want just one angle, just investing in one good camera. And I've suggested a couple, but then again, they are not exhaustive. There's just so many brands, so many good cameras out there that you can invest in. And now you get a good high-definition cameras for a lot cheaper than it used to be, okay? So having a good camera to capture the video of the church and with the cameras, the tripod is very crucial as well. What is a tripod? It's a simple stand that they mount the camera on with the camera, that's a tripod, okay? And investing in a durable and a strong tripod is a must. And then with that comes the video editing software. Okay, and some of the softwares that I've seen people in the church office use are, they use Final Cut Pro, most of the time they use Final Cut Pro. That's what's mentioned in the notes. And for free, I think you can get iMovie, there's Adobe Premiere Pro, and there's so many software nowadays guys that you can download, you wouldn't get it for free to edit your softwares, okay? So this is what's related with equipments that are required for recording your audio and your videos, okay? And I think it will be a very good addition to your church and worship ministry, okay? Investing in the audio and the video equipments. And then moving to the next section, it talks about the lighting systems for use in worship settings. Just a few guidelines, right? Lighting sets the obvious mood and the atmosphere in the room, okay? So if it's bright in a room, it is happier, celebratory, et cetera. And if it's dark in a room, it is more intimate, more private, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, so lighting actually sets a pretty obvious mood or atmosphere, changes the atmosphere, changes the mood in the room, okay? And then secondly, in the B section, the lighting should match the mood in the room, okay? Even if it's a, if the team is doing like a pray, a fast or an up-tempo kind of a song, if there's some celebration thing happening, high amount of lighting in the congregation is suggested, okay? People need to see the role of the congregation in celebration and praise. And in intimate worship, during the slower songs, you know, during those intimate moments of worship, you reduce the amount of lighting, okay? It's like this, it gives like this sense of privacy, that, you know, okay, kind of getting closer and being intimate in that particular moment. So that's what lighting does, okay? So the effectiveness of our worship times will increase as the worship team, the sound team and the lighting team are working in one purpose of bringing glory to Jesus and serving His charge, okay? The effectiveness of our worship times will increase, okay? Now, definitely all of this, you know, having said, we've spoken about the audio recording, video recording, the equipments and all the fancy equipments, including the lighting and whatnot. All of that is not going to bring God's glory down. Just having a fancy equipment, fancy expensive cameras and whatnot, having the best lighting of the softwares and et cetera, et cetera, we can have all of that and yet miss out on the glory. And you can have none of it and still your congregation be filled with the presence of God, right? So in all of this, please don't get anything wrong. You know, if your church does not have any of these equipments and whatnot, it's absolutely fine. But it's one of the good things to work towards. But equipments should not be an area of distraction. You get what I'm saying, right? It should not be like, okay, if God will come down only if this kind of lighting is there on stage, okay? That should not be the intentions of our heart, everything, right, the whole, everything that we do is to serve, is to minister unto God better and to serve his people better, right? If we can record good quality audio, if we can record good quality video and if it's going to serve our congregation better, go for it, right? If your room, if your room that you're renting or your building does not have enough natural light and it's very dark all the time, investing in a good lighting system, there's nothing wrong with it, right? But again, like we've discussed so many times in the spiritual aspect of it, is as a worship leader and as a worshiper, all your focus is about getting on stage and being under the spotlight. We are missing the whole point, isn't it? Okay, so the whole point of all this chapter is that, okay? We can have all of this, but then, you know, Jesus is always the focus of it all. And finally, the projection software, people need to see the lyrics, isn't it? Of the songs that we sing of the sermons that you preach, you know, yes, we can use PowerPoint and whatnot, which is great, it works, it's functional, it gets the job done, right? Using PowerPoint and slides and whatnot. But then there are some of these extra professional softwares that you can use, we can use. So one of them, a couple of them is ProPresenter. Now there's version seven and eight that's come out, okay? So a pro-level presentation software for churches, it's good and there's another software called ProClaim, which is very similar to ProPresenter, okay? So that's another alternative. One of the earlier softwares, projection software was EasyWorship and MediaShout. Okay, so all of these are the projection softwares that you can start investing in for your church as well. And some of the tools that are available for the training of your worship team members, of worship ministry that you can, there are a lot of resources to equip your team, guys. Okay, YouTube of course, there is no shortage of lessons on YouTube, on the teachings of worship. There are hundreds and hundreds of podcasts, free tutorials, trainings on YouTube and resources available on YouTube. And the few additions that you can look at is Bethel School of Worship. There's an online course if you want to, if you're led to pursue your worship ministry studies, you can look into that. Worship Initiative by Shane and Shane and there's another. Lead worship by Paul Belosh, Hillsong and Praise Charts, et cetera, et cetera. So these are all just websites for you to get some free resources, okay? That this is all about chapter six, right? It's about worship technology in worship ministry. So does anybody have any questions, guys? Please forgive me this. My internet seems to be a little unstable. There was a heavy rain last night. If my voice is breaking or whatnot, I apologize. But I hope you were able to follow the chapter six now. But any questions, any thoughts that you want to ask or share about the importance of sound system? Hi, Pastor. Yes, Dave. Not a question, but a kind of suggestion. Well, if you yourself are a lead pastor or a senior pastor, you are free to, I mean, to get the devices, instruments that you require. I mean, that your worship team needs. But just like you mentioned before, if you are not a lead pastor or you are just a worship leader or you are in a worship team, but you know you need certain things. Yes. The board or the leadership has denied or doesn't get approved. So in such situation, well, you know you need your worship team needs your church needs. In that situation, what can we do or how can we convince or how can we let them know that these certain things are necessary. Yes. How can we convince them or let them know if there's something that you can suggest me? Yes, Dave. But I'm not sure if you like the answer that I have. But you know, when we started off, this is chapter, right? I said that it's very unfortunate or sad that most of the leaders might, you know they have either two aspects to it. One is they don't have the funds for it. And the second aspect is perspective is that they just don't see the need for it. They think that it's a waste of money investing in any of these equipments. Instead, they would, you know they would invest that fund for something else for the church, whatever that may be. And I've been part of both such kinds of leadership. But the thing is that, you know as a member who is not a staff who is just another volunteer or part of the worship team members, all we can do is just ask and suggest, you know that this is going to help. This is going to help. Can we buy this? You know, because this is going to enhance. But if you're kind of the one of the important like the main worship leaders that's main worship coordinators that you're coordinating everything for you for that location of your church. It's important that you have like a priority list of equipments, right? For example, it's important to have microphones. And if you don't have microphones and if you just have you're not going to invest in an FX processor or an equalizer, right? So make a list of the equipments that are important, prioritize them. Okay, now we have the microphones. The next is we need to get a mixer, right? Or an amplifier. So one thing at a time convince, you know this you make a suggestion, that's all you can do, right? You say, you know, we need this it's not just a want, it's a need, right? So after you've done what you have to do the only other thing that you can do is honor the leadership. You know, what we should be careful with is when the leadership denies something the enemy can use that to cause bitterness or offense in our hearts. So the first thing I would say is just keep that heart in check. Don't give the enemy a foothold to use the denial of the leadership of your request to turn that into bitterness. Okay, so continue to honor the leadership continue to be patient with them. And this is why I said, you know you're not going to like the answer that I'm gonna give but continue to honor them and the leadership will see, right? Eventually that, okay, hey, he's been asking this for a while and he's been patient and he's been an honorable about it. He hasn't made a scene, he hasn't said I'm gonna leave the church or et cetera, et cetera, right? And whatnot, but you've made your request you've given like a logical explanation and a presentation of your needs. And then now it's up to them, isn't it? Because they are the leaders. So in that season, I would suggest you to continue to honor them and wait. And yeah, hopefully things work out for good, Dave. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but on your part, just, you know if you can just work on that list the priority list of equipments, what is needed? You know, separate that list from top priority or urgent to the wants, okay? These are all the luxury stuff, okay? You know, we don't really need them but when we have all the basic stuff we can, you know, slowly save up for them and add them to our title list. Yes, Professor. Okay. My other concern is, you know, during this pandemic we all know at least we need at least a two-channel sound interface at least. Yes. So while we just record by a camera and or a mobile phone it's not that bad but the quality of the sound is not very professional or Yes. So in those situations we, how can we make them know the difference between the quality of the sound just to recording by a camera or a phone and through sound interface? I mean, how do we let them know is by playing an example and showing them that like a difference between audio and video that's recorded using good equipment and audio video recorded using just a phone, you know. The thing is last year again when the first wave hit, that's how we recorded, you know, we, like, none of us were prepared, right? You don't study about this in any Bible college. It's like, okay, in this year you're going to be hit with pandemic, everybody's going to go online. Nothing prepares, you know, for something like that, isn't it? So similarly like everybody else we were unprepared but we had to improvise on the fly. So what we did is like for worship ministries is like worship leaders, guys, record a worship set on your phone and send it. So for a solid one month or so, that is how we managed, right, for one month because of the lockdown and everything. We couldn't go out anywhere. So the worship leaders in their home, not everybody else, again, not everybody has an interface. Okay, let me just show you what an interface looks like. A lot of things connected here. I'll take it. Give me one second, guys. So what Dave is actually talking about, this is a DAW, like a digital audio workstation, right? So this acts like a bridge between the computer, okay, and my instrument, my keyboard, or a guitar, whichever, so you see it has two inputs here, right? So I will use one input for the mic. I use, let's see in this, let's see. So this is one mic here, okay, a lot of things are falling. So I use one channel for the mic. So this is a small interface. It has only two channels. That means I can connect only two instruments at a time. Okay, and this is about 10,000 rupees or so, yeah. 10,000, 12,000. So one channel for the mic and the other channel for the keyboard or the guitar. So now, because it's expensive, isn't it? 12,000, not everybody in the worship team has, even now not everybody has these, but if there's like a main worship leader, investing in this will surely help, like recording all the audio in this and capturing the video in a high definition, and then playing and showing them the difference. See, do you see the difference? This is the clarity. And I again, just hope that they agree and invest in a simple one like this. Yeah, I think. Yeah, thank God you're, I mean, you, we do have some of the members who are willing to help and they come up with, at least God has been at least providing for the members. So, like the members who are in the worship team. Yeah. We are thankful for them. And it's been a great help for us. Praise God for that, David. I mean, it's amazing to see how God has sustained His church through the pandemic, right? Through the ups and downs. And I think this is one of the lowest points that everybody, the whole world, but the church has had to endure and we've had to learn to adapt and improvise. And I started, in all honesty, this thing was in a box for, I don't know how many years and I didn't really use it. I took it out and I started using it only after the pandemic came in to record everything and bought one mic and all of that. So, yeah, any other questions, guys? Thomas, Prince, Kiran, how was the technical aspect of the church, in your church? Any challenges that you'll face? Kannan? Actually, currently we didn't buy any technical things but I was there in the ministry for almost five years. I have seen this mixer, my, I'm not sure what you showed, sure, it's a 58 and one more cordless. I forgot the model name, but that's cost 32,000. It's cordless, very expensive. That ministry always has spent good amount of money for the technical side, soundcraft mixer and JBL speakers, very good instruments they've been buying, snake-able and all. So, that pastor used to say, whenever you do for the kingdom, also you have to do the best and that will be useful for the, enhance the kingdom of God. So, as you showed us some pictures, I was recollecting it. So, praying in coming days, we should have a very good equipment in the church. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, thanks, Thomas. Yeah, I think, you know, when we say best equipment and whatnot, it's to the best of our ability. You know, our best might not necessarily be the best of another church or another ministry and whatnot. Are you able to do, you know, the best you can in your ministry? And I think that's an important question to ask yourself, so, yeah. Thank you for sharing. Anybody else? Kiran, Kanan? Yes. As you said, the financial matter is also, you know, always think about to buy the things. Yes, yes. That also depends on the ministry, growth stage and the capability to slowly have to buy one-one things at the time cannot for the financial stance. Correct, yeah. Absolutely. And see, I think just like any other organization, even if you studied in a church music and not music administration, church administration, is also budgeting, right? Now we make budget for, you know, so many different things, isn't it? Like for the church, okay, we have a budget for, let's say a church family outing, different various things, isn't it? So if you have a budget, like a savings plan for just, okay, sound system, the church is going to put in, set aside just 500 rupees monthly and then the end of the year, you can use that to buy an equipment that we need and et cetera, et cetera. I can have a plan like that will also work. I'm talking to you as pastors, you know, as leaders that we do. So yeah, yeah. So Pastor. Yes. During the lockdown, the first wave and the second wave, when you were in a complete lockdown, how did you manage the worship and the sermon? Was it house record at the house and send it to Google Drive or something? Yes, yes, yeah. That's how it was. So everyone did it in their house, right? Yeah, everyone did it in their house, yeah. All those files were sent either by a Google Drive or we transfer, you know, whatnot. And I think there was also a time when only, you know, we have this Swiggy or Danzo. So we'll put all the heavy files in a hard disk or a pen drive and send it to the media team. You know, all those dramas was happening, sending the laptop from there to here and sending the laptop back to them and all of that. Then once the lockdown eased a little bit, the media team would go to pastor's house to record his summits. But otherwise even pastor would record his summits, you know, with the camera that he had and send it to the media team. So everything was happening online, yeah. So, yeah, it's pretty challenging. Yeah, I can relate that. We are still on the same thing. We are not physically open yet. Right, right. So, yeah. But yeah, what I got now, people can come at least for the recording. Yeah. And then record and then go. Yeah. And I think in my experience, another suggestion is, which I've also seen is people need a good audio a little bit better than the video. So, you know, if I'm sharing a video for us on the class, although you can see the video, one of the first things everybody will immediately complain or say is, sir, we can't hear. There's no audio, right? And, you know, and also in the Zoom meetings and whatnot, if people can see you and cannot hear you and if the audio quality is not well because of internet connections or whatnot, the interaction is not going to be, the engagement is not going to be at the same level. So, yeah, sound system, investing in sound system is never gonna let you down. You know, good sound systems never gonna let you down. Okay. Well, if there's nothing else, what we'll do is I'll stop the session here. Okay. And we'll resume the next session next week. Okay, guys. And I hope you've been learning something and take time to invest in some technical stuff. What I will do after the class is I will upload an Excel sheet that has every possible collection of technology that you can use in ministry. Okay, it's gonna help you. Okay, so I'll share that once the class is done on the stream section. So please download it and use it. Okay. All right, then. Thanks everybody for joining in. We are finishing class much earlier today. It's unusual, but we'll resume next class. Okay. Take it guys. Bye-bye. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.