 Oh, you want to be on the set? Yeah, you on the set. Big shit, big shit. Big shit, big shit. It's a unique hustle, big shit. Big shit, big shit, big shit. Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official. Mr. Maker, what's going on? Man, hey man, we got a special guest in here today, y'all. Listen, man. God always blessing me, man. I got this brother here, man. You know what, man? I told y'all I was going to try to get him then. You know, once you got the motivator behind you, you say, oh, go get him. I'm like, I got to go get him. I'm going to lose everything. Save, man. Face all the loves of the building, man. You've been working with 20 years right here, sir. 20 years, man. I got to do what I'm told or else it ain't going to work, man. Hey, take out the trash. Oh, man. You don't do everything that you're told. Hey, man, listen, there's a lot of chores in marriage, bro. Listen to me when I know from experience. Listen. Listen. I'm going to get married again. I don't know who this white woman is going to be. Aw. Aw. Hey, man, I'm going to be honest with you. If she hadn't been Jamaican, I probably wouldn't have done it. Are you Jamaican? Yes. Uh-huh, Kingston. Mr. Maiken. You were born under the clock? You're too young to know that. What is that? Yeah, that's the older people of Jamaican. I'll ask my mom. You're born under the clock? You talking the clock downtown? Is that what you're talking about? Oh, no, no, no, no. I know what you're talking about now. You're born one, you know. You're born one. Hey, man, that's the biggest thing in our relationship when we're watching a movie and somebody doing fake Jamaican accent, she get upset. It's good to meet, you know what I'm saying? Who talks about the bang-bang now? Say, man, so... Say, man, listen, man. That's hilarious. Say, so... So, I know you've seen my blow-out the other week over here, man. I went viral, man. My first time going viral. You know, I... I'm surprised the homies didn't choke him out. I got nervous. I said, man... You look nervous, you know. I said, man, look, man, this is my podcast, man. You know, I started begging. I thought, oh, this is gonna be turned over. Oh, this mic was gonna be like... And I was standing right over here, back to the wall, checking everything out. Yeah, she was like... I was like, wow. I know you get these questions, though. You've been watching them. You've been doing a lot of different interviews, man. Yeah, I mean, you know, he's... Listen. People talk... a lot of shit in the same place. Mm-hmm. So, I think that was a... The homie told me he and he came to California and, you know, he walked around and everything. For three years. I've been with the lifestyle, I think. I think that's what it basically is. But, like I said, the lifestyle has got to be really in you and not on you. Yeah, it's a thing that I couldn't ever really understand. From a kid, my family from up there. Yeah, but like I said, you said you're gonna send somebody to give me, like, no, you haven't. We were fighting. It was funny to me, man. I wanna see everything. You're moving around here. You sound like him, that's how he... That's, you know what I'm saying? That's the part of the... Well, we know we've trusted before and been hurt, you know what I'm saying? Listen, nowadays... Mm-mm. You don't stay over nobody? You can come stay at us? I don't do none of that. I spend all the money out of town. She be like, oh, my brother, I don't care. I'm not going over there and stay. My family... People I stay with, they are far removed. They don't know nothing about what's going on. Oh, my God. You know what I'm saying? Some of you know, but yeah, for me to stay at your crib, it takes a lot. Yeah, yeah, I can't do it. First, I gotta get up like a grown man. I'll be up all through the night. They're gonna be mad at me. I'm gonna set the alarm off. All that's happening. I'm gonna go get a taco at three in the morning. Oh, you gotta put the code in. Knock on somebody. Hey, y'all, what are the keys on the top lot? I don't want to do none of that. I want to just slide my card and go on there and get my taco come back. So, man, how's Dallas, man? So how's the show, man? You killing it. Dallas, man, we gotta... First of all, we got, you know, some really good... We got Miss Amber. You guys saw Amber. Yes, sir. With her musty ass. Comedy... Comedy bait. She's hilarious. I've been known for years. I've been telling we was gonna go on a road, so now we're putting it together for a bigger show this summer when all the COVID shit gets rid of, so we're gonna do theaters. You think it'll ever go away? Yeah, it's got to. It's going away. You're not seeing it, but they're going, okay, the bullshit is... Okay, the bullshit's over. No, all these variants keep coming in. No, that's the bullshit they keep coming in. You know, we got the two-pot variant, you know, the Charleston variant. If you notice, if you look at television, look at the sports game. Nobody got a fucking mask on? At all. Even when we go to the grocery store or go anywhere, people are not wearing... Oh, did you get your shot? Everybody's saying that they got their shot, but I guarantee you all these people haven't gotten their shot. Listen, somebody in this room got one. Look at her, look at her. You know what's a big divide on that one? Her arm is fucked up. Her feet hurting. She can't wait to take their shoes off. I'm like, yeah, that's... If you look at, you know, the sports games and all that stuff, they... You know what gave it away last year when Milwaukee won? Okay. Now, this is pretty much still we're not thick of it, right? Milwaukee, there's 60,000 people outside. That's a lot. I was in Milwaukee, out of Moscow, and there was no outbreaks. What did I tell you? They never said, oh, there's outbreaks. Have you really never seen, you hadn't seen lately a big outbreak nowhere? Listen, since the beginning, I had COVIDs early. And... How did it do to you? It fucked me up. It was fucked up. I thought I never saw cigars again. It fucked me up. You didn't have to go to the... Why don't people go to the doctor? That's why you should need to go. That's where they got more COVIDs. Why don't they just go to the doctor when they get here? You know what they got? They gonna give me some soup. They have nothing for you there. Everybody say, how do I get over it? Drits. That's it. I talked to Freeway when I was in L.A. and he was like, I talked to this doctor and he showed me the doctor and the doctor said, you just need to say, high volume vitamin D. But he was like, real, real high volume. I'm like, he's like... The people calling him from the hospital saying, hey, um... He said, how's your vitamin D level? Well, tell them to give you some vitamin D and they're out the next day. I'm like, really? You telling the doctors what to do now? Because they... The doctors... There's a doctor that fixes you and a doctor that brings you along. Does that person go to the trainer? Yeah, yeah. And the trainer's like, okay, do five of these. All right, I'll see you tomorrow. He... That's his money. The money can't go away. Once that person lose weight, he got no job. He's screwed. So if he keep doing this bullshit, I'll see you next week. And the guy thinks he's getting better and thinks he's getting skinnier. You see what I'm saying? But they're not fixing you. I don't... Yeah, yeah. I hadn't seen people just... But everything is just a money-making venture, just like even with organics. They eat organic everything. But how are you so sure it is really organic because it says organic on the package? But that's a hustle. I love a hustle. All that sits a hustle. Listen, the airport, right? First class is always first class. That ain't good no more. Now they got clear. The airport goes... In the airport... You gotta get to keep going straight through. First class ain't gotta wait. So I'm like, well, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah. So you just overtruck first class by adding this... with this with the 40 bucks. Like, you know, they can't afford 40 bucks. Are you crazy? You know what I'm saying? Y'all looking at my old school? I don't know. He went over here. I don't have anybody to go over here. They're trying not to be in the camera. They're trying to angle. I've been doing this for a year now. This is the first one of the show. This isn't even one in the corner. I'm with you. I'm confused. It's all good. It's all good. So, man, I'm trying to stay away from new questions everybody want to ask like every interview. Most niggas I interview be like, man, questions every interview. I can't really stay away from them. I like to know. I like to go back. I like to know. As a child, were you always this funny? I was a bad kid. My father was funny. He was. My father tells some stories. We would just listen. What's the funniest story he ever told? He tells this story every year about how he joined the Navy. Him and Johnny Boy was fighting in Harlem and the dudes got the whip and they asked and they were running. They kept running. And he ran him and Johnny Boy were running and it was he ran to the Navy the Brooklyn Navy Yard and he said, I'm going to join the Navy. He said, Johnny, I said, what Johnny Boy do I say? He went and he joined the some shit the way he did. I can't tell it to you. But the way he do it was going in. He went to Vietnam running from running from the fight. So you came up you was born in San Diego? No. You were born in San Diego. That's what I heard. I was raising San Diego. Where were you born? The Naval base. The Naval base in San Diego. I'm like, okay, yeah. No, I just know. We didn't travel. I was raised in San Diego. I love San Diego. I like it better than LA. Two different beaches. Clean, white, sand beach. The beaches in LA got a little urine on it. I remember the first time I went to LA and you know you're looking for the beaches and me from Jamaica. I've been dealing with this for a long time. I read my swimsuit jumping and I'm ready to jump in the water and I'm like, I don't know. I realize why people be wearing them suits. It is so freezing cold. I'm looking at everybody on the beach like why is everybody laying on the beach in clothes? It's a beach. But it's some people that have jumped in there. I've seen them. They call white people. They don't give a damn. They would jump in that day. You go to the beach in LA and hang out on the boardwalk or walk up there. In San Diego you can actually go there and get in the water. The water is cold too but sometimes it's warm. I went in the water in San Diego and it was really, really nice. It depends on what time of season. We always go like July, August. It's not bad. There's some murky water down there too but it's not like Jamaica and all the Antigua or anything like that. Out of all the places you've visited what's the most beautiful place you've ever seen? It's got to be between Bora Bora and South Africa. What is it about those two places that you love? Bora Bora, you can literally see the bottom of the ocean. Really? Yeah. Like you go in a glass bottom boat? No. You look over the side and depending on where you are how deep it is you can see the sandy bottom. Like sharks and some friends we were out there and decided they wanted to go scuba diving. Never took a damn lesson. They just put the shit on and went down there and these sharks was just They swam with the sharks. They swam with the feeding sharks. I would never. I'd be scared. They're friendly sharks. They said the sharks are full. They're full. Okay, where are your friends white or black? They're white. He's the one black guy with a more life. I said somebody got to tell this. They're going to believe me. They're going to think I killed you. So acting man how did you get into acting bro? I love your movies man. Anytime you're in there man I'll be like this nigga you're crazy like me. This ain't real life. He ain't acting. I watched one last night and I didn't even know you were going to be in there. Which one was it? It was She Hoop with Nick Cannon and Chris Brown was in there and stuff like that. I was like look at him. His car was retrieved from me my nigga. That's more boring we filming that. Oh really? I loved it bro. To be a part of that is awesome. Yeah it got to be. We were out there when Obama was elected. So it was me and god damn it what's her name? She played my X Y. Oh yeah the one with those sisters. She's going to talk shit. She directs some BMF right now. I didn't know that. She's a producer on it too. I'm picturing her face right now. I think she's going to talk so much shit. Did she have a twin sister? Yes she does. Tasha. Tasha. Is she exactly how she is on the shows? I love her. She's been crazy. She's never changed. She's the same old Tasha. She's crazy as fuck. I love her. She's been the same. I'll be a detective. She's doing a great job directing because she was a teaching actor. I've seen her old shit. I've seen her old shit. I'm rooting for her. That's awesome. Crazy but the thing I can say about it is you know you really good at these parts about acting that husband that just left. That just gets out of it. You know you talked about that the other night I'm like oh they did that for real in the movie so let's keep coming back. I was practicing. Same. Your part actually fits like who you are so did you have to prepare any for them roles? Well it is or it's not. I play a more square guy. So I don't play it phase on got a little more edge to it because I'm like fuck you. I don't know what the director was like. What would you do if your wife left and you're like I'll let it go. He's like no phase on. We gotta go. We gotta act like we care. She's gone guys. I gotta get her. He's more of a square guy. I try not to play him. A black is a person. Yeah but you I've been that guy the one or two black guys or the one black guy in the midst of that whole the one black guy he always gets it's just one maybe two maybe two but that's it. I've been that in Carpet America so when I see it I can relate man. Yeah I mean because they said there were black men in business is either invisible or schizophrenic because we gotta deal with who's the sister of them things. Then we gotta go home like what's up nigga? You gotta deal with both sides of the fence. They start to deal with that side. Yeah. The Robin Harris acting as Robin Harris I wrote that down to ask you about that the baby is kids man. How was that man? It was awesome because the voice right? Yeah, yeah because they were planning to do a live version. Okay. And then Robin passed. Yeah I remember that. And then I talked to Warranty Huddlin and he was like man because I was doing that in my act because I knew Robin. Yeah. So I was teased Robin you know I was like you don't put me on nigga. So everybody knew I You knew the voice. Yeah. They knew I did it because I would I'd be on stage teasing Robin with it. You know that's one way of hanging with him on stage because he was a beast on stage. Yeah, yeah. Back then you just had to on stage with Robin Harris, Damien Wains, Keenan Ivey Wains, Robert Townsend, Martin Lawrence. That's Haven Talent. Yeah. Ricky Williams I mean Ricky Harris was funny as hell. That was that was just one night lineup. Yeah. You had to hang with that. Yeah. All those personalities all in the same. They're all different. Everybody was different. Like even when you see Rancho, you see Amber, they're all different. So that's that's why I like them. Yeah. People only like her. It'll be like him. And I got a few other people that were too. So you change people all the time every time whenever you try? I normally keep people for a couple years, but now we're going to do a bigger tour. So business is not that much. People don't want to be in them seats that long. They got a certain amount of time to laugh. If you drag it out, they're going to be like, all right. If you put different acts and everybody's giving you something different and they keep me laughing, I'll sit in that seat for as long as it takes. Some people will, but people in Japan, people are, I don't know how old he was, 26. That was a good compliment, man. I'm talking about, yeah. And I'm not a hunter. I'm not saying I'm in my fourth. I'm older than both of y'all. No. Y'all to say. By a couple of years. Go to bed. Y'all go to bed now, God damn it. Yeah, that be the big brother deal right there. Y'all go to bed, God damn it. My brother's your age. Yeah, but that's your brother. Yeah, they try to jump. Yeah, they try to come at me. You know, but you know, yeah. And I'm a little bit of a dude. He's about six and a half. Oh, the little short one is the worst. Got a complex and everything. Man, you got to fight these things all night. They could just give it all. You lost, man. You lost. Man, speaking of that, Cat Williams, man, we got to talk about cat. Speaking of short and fighting and all this good stuff. Yeah. So what's the deal with you and Cat Williams? I mean, Aunt Davies. Oh, no. Cat. Y'all work well together. Listen, I'm from a I'm a dinosaur. Okay. So, well, we from I think he said that he's this. He better be that. Okay. All the weird shit. You we don't. We don't, we don't sniff it out. Like. That didn't make sense. Cat. Won't just be a comedian. He wants to be a gangster. He wants to be a pimp. He wants. Let's do this. You got three jokes. Go with that bush. You know, you know, our shit came from and this word and this is the last time I'm going to say it. The people we all like we get that. Make sure you get it. Um, our shit came from us going trying to put a tour together. And, um, him, him thinking that I was not going to be funny. So, where Amber is he, you know, he's like, okay, I'm going to put, I'm going to say, okay, but I'm okay. Yeah. But I've been doing this before you. Okay. You know, I was on stage robbing hairs. Damien Waynes, we had to bring it. And what happened was I was smashing him. You know what I'm saying? He couldn't follow me. For sure. So, that's where it really came from. Honestly, he was like, oh, so he thought he was going to fuck with my money. I'm like, no, you're not going to do that either. You're not going to do that. You're not going to do that. I will choke you little nigga. You see him little kid. Yeah. Yeah. He couldn't have a little boy. It was rough. It was going down. That little boy took that hit to the nigga. Really? The boy looked at him like, huh? That was viral moment for sure. And you know what's so funny when you're, when you work and you go good on core, he's a good, he could give you the shirt off his back. He could give you the shirt off his back. I mean, we're in I think we're in LA. I said, I think I'm buying me some shoes. So I'm at the counter and I want to go get some shoes. No, man, I got these. I was like, I can't let you buy me those shoes. I got these. I got these. See, it takes the shoes and buys the shoes. I'm like, man, I can't wear them shoes. You bought me some shoes, nigga. But that's how he is. He means well, but there's something other gets in the way. Like I don't hate the nigga. Even when he pulled the gun on me, we was like, wow. Do you know these niggas will shoot you for real? What are you doing? I remember that now that you say it. Then he got sugar involved. No. You think you'll beat me up? She was like, so I don't hate the dude. I had no, you know what I'm saying? It's just that one incident where he pulled the strap out of me. I was going to, it got bad because I was like, don't you ever do that. You're really endangering your life for real. But I don't understand why people would even do that because one thing my daddy used to always say, if you go and pull it, you better use it. So, you know, pull in straps and try to frighten somebody or try to intimidate somebody. Like, why? That works with his the women he intimidates and all that shit. You know what I'm saying? But a real, you know, me, I'm like, man, what do you flame on, motherfucker? What do you mean? What are you doing? I don't know, he's just a kid. I saw myself saving his life money, bro. I saw you having too popular. How are you a Crips? You know, that's funny. You think about it. A lot of people, they, I asked the question yesterday to one of them, I guess. I was like, being from L.A., how do you guys look at the Crips and the Bloods in the South? Do y'all really take them serious? Or wherever else? Crips? You know, they're Crips. The E-rigids. Wait, they have their own thing. What do you want to be, dogs? You know, it's a whole different thing. You can't just, this ain't a Boy Scout. You didn't grow up in my street? I know everybody. Your mama don't live, where your mama live? It's a territory thing. How can you do that when you're not in those areas? You know what I'm saying? You have to grow up on your street. You know, I see you told you, like, die for a street that they didn't even heard of. Right? So it's like, that's the only thing with the, I was just like, how is he, I was just trying to get some clarity about how is he a Crips. I know earlier you spoke about Robin Williams that, Robin Harris. Robin Williams died of he committed suicide. It's a whole different thing. Let's talk about Robin Williams. Him being a comedian and passed away from mental illness and stuff like that. How serious is it to, because you know, comedians, they laugh a lot. Even when they're going through stuff. I really? No. No. In a congregation, maybe, but most comedians are quiet. Like, that's how you tell a bad comedian because the quiet is like, you know what I'm saying, if you're in a green room and the mother is quiet, then you got the one mother going, ehhh. He ain't gonna be shit. Okay. But most, um, the brilliant ones are, it's not about Jokey Jokey. Jokey Jokey Jokey. It's like the ones that, you know, because I just saw someone wrong with me because I saw things differently. Like, you know, I didn't see it from a Jokey. Like most of my, what you call jokes, are not jokes, they're just storylines from my life. And I can tell that. We remember seeing Will Ferrell and he was quiet looking and I'm like, this nigga don't look like that. I want to see this nigga do the thing. You know what I'm saying? He was so serious when we saw him. I'm like, this thing ain't that ain't the one. You know, it's like a dog on a cage. You just trying to figure out a way to poke him and get him to act. But that's how people are, when they watch you on TV and they see you, they think that's how you are all the time. So when they see you in person, the great Westie Snipes Yeah man. this summer and this dude came up to me and Westie's a quiet dude. He just studying. Most people just studying. You know, most artists are just studying people. Just studying, you know, and Westie was just like, hey! Needle Brown! Needle Brown! Needle Brown! What's he like? That's the way he go down. That's not me, brother. That's the character I play. I agree with that character. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, if you meet Mr. Snipes and then you meet Needle Brown, they're two different people. No, I get it. You know what I'm saying? And that's where people are going to go, do some karate! Blame! What's up Blame? All big worms, same thing. There it is! But you see, when you talking about the characters, I was watching a podcast the other day and I think I was watching Pierre. And the guy that was on there was the guy who came in Jamie Foxx show. The tall, yeah. What's his name? I don't even know that. The tall light skin one. He didn't have a main role. I know, but he was talking about when you go for auditions because no matter how big you are you still go for some auditions and so forth. And when you walk in to get audition and if the people who are there are calling you the character's name, he's like that's the worst thing for him. It's different when you have like fans, you know, you're on the street and somebody come up to you and say, you know, big worm, but when you're going for audition and they call you big worm, you are auditioning for it might be an action. Or it might be something else. They're calling by a past character's name. Right, so they're already marking him off the list, so to say because they're looking at you as this comedian compared to... I don't do auditions. How do you get down like when you get ready to get in? You got to call you? No, they got to... First, they got to know there was no auditions mother. They got to go to Netflix. I sent them blockbusters. You didn't think I can read or anything, I can't act. Pick one, but I'm not coming in your little room. And act out for you. And suck some cock. I think when you're a vet in this, you don't have to. Someone wants you to humble yourself. But I'm like, fuck that, I got to stand up. I'm not doing that bullshit. We had to talk last night. Because I used to say, when you... Yeah, you like what? You do a movie with this white boy who's never done anything and they just cast him. I'm like, I don't fucking get that job. And you want me to audition? What the fuck out of here? Kick rocks. And then what happens is if you're playing poker, they're like hi, the nigger. You know what I'm saying? It's poker. It's a game. For the show. Part of my strategy was just telling people no. I said no, I don't want to do it. Then they're like... That's it? How much will you do it for? I said I don't want to do it. That's that reverse psychology. That's reverse psychology. I don't want to do it. And the more you say no, the higher the price goes up. That's good stuff. But now, because acting is not the same anymore, the medium is different. It's not the same. It's... Movies are everywhere. You're falling in the bathroom. You don't even have to go to the movies there. You can just wait until you get it on and go click the movies. Yeah, all the movies aren't even going to the movie theaters anymore. They're going to Netflix and all of these roll through in Amazon and stuff. They don't have to. But what about the guys like... You do have different people that's finding new ways and new lanes and all those guys doing their thing. Is that the same? Do you guys have the same respect? No, no, he got a hold. That's some other bullshit. Somebody told me... Who told me he made a bunch of money? I was like, I don't... On Facebook and Instagram, videos and all that. That doesn't pay money. Yeah, he makes some good money. See, I know what residuals get. Okay. Well, what I did in 92, you ain't getting no residuals from that shit. No, no, no, no. You just get paid for what you get paid for now. From 92. You see what I'm saying? So, I don't know how that's going to work when they start going, hey, dig it, do whatever he does. I'm like, what does he do? It's like he got to get his money right now and then if something goes wrong, retire or jump into something else that can... Get a lot of money. He's the main guy doing that but there's a lot of other ones that's kind of following that whole trend. So that's a whole new thing. They keep saying it, but I haven't seen nobody rich from it. He made a couple million from it. I don't know what he said, but I'm like, people I know that do this are in Forbes. Yeah. So, it's like... Okay, no, this is a real check. It's a real check. Not like the We Heard check. No, but when you Google it, it pops up. I know. When they Google it, there's a lot of shit popping up. You don't pop on something. There's a lot of shit popping up. I'm saying track it for real. Track it for real. It's like you said Bitcoin, right? Bitcoin was $170,000. Now it's $60,000. How much it really worth? Right. What is the real worth of it? They been trying to get me into Bitcoin for a minute. Listen, when Bitcoin was $1,000, I could have got... You didn't get it. I was like, what the fuck is it? You tell me what it is. I need to guarantee it's a gamble. I know it's a gamble. They don't want to tell you it's a gamble. Everything you do is a gamble. In a ghost stock. Oil is always going to be oil. Medicine is going to be medicine. Ham is going to be ham. It's going to vary, but it's going to always be there. AT&T, Coke, all these products are going to always be there. But when your product goes from $40,000 to $78,000 up and down, then... What is that? That's for one coin. I can't lose, man. I'm like, give them $10,000 to get in. I say, okay. I'm trying to figure out. You're not even getting in. I got the old man calling me saying we making millions doing it. He told me if you give me $10,000 in three days and I say, are you serious? I'm going to get $30,000. Because why don't he just do it himself? It was a guy sitting there. He was setting him up. All I need is $10,000. You can make $15,000 in $20,000. If I give you $20,000, do I make $60,000? Because he's doing that. But it sounds too good to be true in you, Leo. Have you ever heard of dope music? Leo has $15,000 for a kilo. Why are you telling me? You're about to be over there. You're about to be over there. Why are you telling me more? Have you ever seen a football game and the other players are like we about to run a 54 split? No. Why are you telling me your plans? I'm going to do what? Okay. You want me to be rich, too? Why don't you do me a favor? You take your money, invest it for me and then when it may get, you just give it away. It says you want to give it away. It's a new pyramid hustle. And that's what I hate. Everything is all pyramid. Everything is all pyramid. I'll be hating them. But it's legal now. Because you guys can create a Bitcoin yourself. You call it Boss Talk Bitcoin. It's up to $30,000. Whatever you get people to believe in that's what it becomes. It ain't the brick and mortar now. That's what you say because everything is invisible. That's what they're saying. Wait a minute, $70 million. That's what I'm saying. Get in there. They're saying paper money is going to go away. It's been gone away. The value is gone. It's been gone away. What are you talking about? You use credit cards. You use debit cards. I still love cash. Me too. We got to use it. We got to use it. Y'all are stunning though. See, that's the difference. Y'all pull it out. Yeah, I got my money. You got a card. What's going to happen to those people who didn't trust the banks and didn't trust cards and stick money underneath their mattress? What's going to happen to that? What do you mean? They're still going to have no value. You're still people buying gold. Gold's never going to go anywhere. I know. People buy gold and there's other ways to do it. You know what I'm saying? It's not just the banks. I'm a poor guy, so I don't know anything about it. All I know is you've been working a long time, bro. For free. For free? Oh, no. That dude is something else. Out of all the film that you've ever done, which one would you say is your favorite? Mine is Made. Why? Why? Because it's the first film ever written for me. And it started the whole Elf Couples of Treat. The same writer, John Favreau was a good friend of mine. He's created Iron Man and basically the Marvel world. Marvel movies. That's Stan, that's the guy who created the character. The movies. The person who started Marvel films was Wesley Snipes. I've seen that. He was the first one. Blake was the first character. From that character came Spider-Man. Because Marvel's stock was $2 in 1996. They were going under. And Blade brought that shit back. Then it just Spider-Man and created Marvel Studios. And John did Iron Man. And it went from there. I love Marvel. I watch every single movie. I love me some Marvel. There's a new one coming. Spider-Man coming out of there. I know. I can't wait. I wanted to ask you about the blood in New York. How does that happen? You are blood but you're from New York. They say you started your career when you got initiated as a No, no, no. It was a How you gonna tell me? A guy sent me this question. He said he started in New York. I thought they from L.A. how he ended up over there. We used to go back and forth in New York. Now that makes sense. I have family in New York. I used to live in the Bronx. We used to live in Harlem. We moved to California. We moved to California. I was 72. You were young and I was young too. I was only one. You were five or four. 72, I was, yeah. You was five or four. I would throw the plane back from New York. You remember all of that? I used to have a picture of me on the plane eating a hot dog. Have you ever heard of Rodney Alley Whippy? Sounds familiar. Rodney Alley Whippy represented Jack in the Box. He's a little black kid. He ate a hamburger. I didn't know his name but yeah. I looked just like him. He was like, it's Rodney Alley Whippy. It's Rodney Alley Whippy. I was like, I remember that as a kid, but yeah, my family was going back and forth. Military. It was just my mom and my father and then my uncle and my aunt and my aunt just passed. They didn't have no kids. So my mother they were trying to establish something. It was easy for me to stay there with them. They were like babysitters. Okay. So for six months I've been in New York and I come back and I got used to it. I was like, yeah, I don't want to go back to New York. So I was in New York when all this shit began. That was a good time. Were you doing all that break dance? No, you did a little bit. I was a DJ. So that got you out of it. DJ still got to do all of that. I challenged KL from Beach by the Bay. Did you go right here? I was about to go in. I seen all that. Yeah, I would have been messed up. I used to see all that. They spent on the head. Oh, he broke his neck. I'm like, damn. You used to hear stuff like that. They used to break parts. These boys were serious. I was into it. I used to watch Crazy Ladies. They were some young niggas around. They couldn't do it right now. These niggas were getting down. Because in California, they wasn't doing that. No, it was just up on the East Coast. Yeah, it was like the Pumas and all that shit. I was like, damn. Pumas, because we was wearing crocus hats. Yeah, different times. That's when they were doing the Kangle hats and stuff like that. Kangle hats. Don't focus what your name is. The Big Chains and all of that. The Big Chains, everything. That was the B-Boy time. So, I remember going back to New York when I was probably about 14. No, 13. And I had a cactus. We used to wear cactuses. And they were like, man, why are you dressed like the janitor? Stem cactuses, boy. I thought I was clean. They were like, so we went to... The dickies and all of them. Was it creased up? Oh, yeah. I seen two kids in Atlanta. I was so impressed. They were from, like, think Detroit. They were 13 just walking through the mall. Brown in the blue. Didn't you see that? I remember that. I asked them, I said, man, y'all doing y'all thing. Let me tell you. That was so crazy to me when I came here for the first time and I saw everybody doing creased up pants. And I'm like, you can actually hear the creaking. Oh, yeah, that's how you do it. I'm like, that is so crazy. When you go to school, you ready to fight? You want to be ready? You got to be ready. We'll fight all day long. Do you got any more questions? Yeah, so how did you get your first role? Like, when you got into acting for the first first time? I think she want to act, bro. Because she is really asking you some deep questions. No, I want to know. Like, how long did it take you to get that? Like, because I know a lot of actors be like, man, I've been doing this for so long. That's what I've been telling you. He was saying that last week. He was like, I had a song. He was over there last week. He was like, he was on BMF. I saw. Yeah, this is a marathon. Not attracting me. So it ain't... See, the kids now that everybody want to be famous, but I've been telling Amber them, it's like, yo, you got to put the work in. It ain't all that one thing. I've... My... I somebody dig up... My first television appearance at the Apollo was in 1989. Mm-hmm. And it was... It was... I tell everybody... Back then, people was in the streets. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it was the streets. And when they had... picked me up, it was one of those days where you wasn't doing nothing. You was just in the wrong place. Okay, at the right time. So they picked me up, beat me up, and they go, what you doing over here? I picked my partner up. We're actually going to see... God damn it, Eddie Murphy. You know, everybody's in the movie. You talking about Harlem Night? Yeah. So we going to the movies. Bleeding and shit. Head cuffs. Fuck, that's it. So, and back then, how they would get you, they give you... They mark the money, the buy money. So they check your pockets and put, I got no buy money on me. But I got a page on me. A page on me. And which I still have to this day. Got pages? Ooh, I need, that's what I need. I thought I was a man back then. Boy, you bring back memories. He don't know nothing about that. That conversation leaving some people out. It's just me and you now. No, no, no way. No way. Man, you put... it was 304 for whole. I remember it. 411. That's how we sent it. Who had it going on? Y'all didn't get that. I didn't. That's me and you. We thought we were doing okay. We used to go by the pay phone. I remember the rotary phone. That's what I remember. You buy passers. That was after that. You just buy passers, right? No, that was a good time though. Trust me. J and J Bieber's. I was out there on her in Shreveport. I go down there and pay my bill. Oh man, I was a man. They knew me in there. I come to pay my bills. Oh yeah, I come through, man. I ain't had no phone. We had the big brick phone. It didn't work. It was in the Cadillac, but it didn't work. I ain't got pay phones. See, they gone now. They gave me my property back. I was like, what I was saying was, they can never say, I remember the judge saying, listen, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Because she asked me, well, what do you do for living? I was like, I'm a comedian. You like, we don't know this man. I'm a comedian. She's like, you're a comedian. I told her where and she was like, I've never seen you. Listen, I'm going to put you on probation for a year. And if you come back in my courtroom with the same charge, I'm going to give you the time this time, plus the time. Oh, three. I promise. The next week, I went to go do Apollo. So when you see that clip, that's me going, hey guys! Fuck cocaine! That was my That was my That was me going saying goodbye to that. I thought it fall or fly. Yeah. So, it's me at the Apollo and it was me and Steve Harvey. Yeah, Steve, I've heard him talk about when he first went to the Apollo. That was me. He was doing a joke about Mitch. I've heard. I can't let you get off this platform. Don't you cut me off. You just cut me off. Of all time. Top three comedians. I can't stand you. I'm going to lead a damn podcast. You be here by yourself. Top three comedians. That's so hard. There's so many different colors. Any genre. No, it's a lot to choose from. It's a lot to choose from. It's a different type of comedy. Bill Cosby. Bill. Coming in real hard. No, but that's not his number one. He's just calling some names. No, but Bill could be his number one. I'm going to be honest with you. Bill going hard. You know I've watched all the cartoons. No, no, you guys are only a portion of Bill. You got to say that Richard Pryor wanted to be Bill Cosby. That's dope. I never knew that. He wanted to be Bill Cosby. His whole act was Bill Cosby's act. Really? He was still Bill Cosby's stuff and going look at every documentary, every book. He's going to have me going back and look. Listen, I'm only going to tell you the facts. He's whole and it wasn't until Richard Pryor changed and said, okay, I got to be me. Pryor was in Vegas doing Bill Cosby. And he said, I think it was Frank Sinatra who looked at him like, the fuck is this? And he left. He says, no, I got to do I got to be me. I got to be me. Because back then, Frank Sinatra and them, this is the mob. Yeah, yeah. This is the mob. I thought this kid was funny. And when he left Vegas, he went to San Francisco and just became Richard Pryor. Started talking about Richard Pryor's shit. Wow. And that's why I said if there was going to be any it would be Bill Cosby, Richard Pryor, Annie Murphy. Only three. That's the top three. That's the top three. Those are the pioneers. This is the last question that this man got to go. You took my scene right there for me. Okay, go ahead. Friday. Do you get tired of people asking you if there's going to be another Friday? I don't know how they would do it now with all the stuff that's been changed. I know you get that question. They came out with Coming to America too. Yeah, it was different. I like the new one. You guys want to talk to the other comedians? Oh, they got one. When the police showed up, they got the hell up out of here. You said it. They went in the car after that. That's why he moved over here. He's like the nigga might know me. There he is right there. That's my partner. Oh, shit. They left. They got warrants. He ain't been talking about that. He's going to be here. They left. Let us go get in the car now. First talk tripping. You got the police? No, that way after last week, I said, well, I better start bringing them. The L.A. niggas come through here, man. I got that. He ain't can't listen, man. I got to say this. He was here last time when they was here, but then he got his plate. Oh, yeah. On the stove today. But if you had a later time to come in, I would have brought you a plate. That's how we keep y'all coming back. He had some. Everybody came that day and they left. Now. Today. There's a lot of sales. We're going to eat. We're a good restaurant. You want Jamaican? My boy right up the street. There's a Jamaican restaurant right by improv that I always go to. My partner on it, yeah. It's right by. It's like right around the street, five minutes away. And then they do live music on the weekend, too. We talking about right now. No, they open right now. You could go over there right now. And there's another Jamaican spot right up the street. If you want Jamaican food, I will tell you where. Jamaican food is a good Jamaican food. These are the two best ones. I believe I've been to New York everywhere I go. Sweet Georgia Brown? No, I'm South Dallas. Look at him. I'm going to say South Dallas Cafe. South Dallas Cafe. Better than Sweet Georgia. I know. But what about the chicken place over there? They're putting all that season salt on it. Oh, that's not really soul food. That's not really soul food. That's not really soul food. That's not really long as hell. Honestly, walk up to the window. Chicken good. I love it. That chicken good, man. I set up that. Yeah, they got me. I don't know what you're putting in that chicken. I go back over there and sit in that line with everybody else. Damn. I'm going to be doing that. Well, I guess that's it for me. I don't know what I'm doing. It was a... Right next to the... I can't go there. We got a spot here that used to be a veterinary place. It's a Mexican restaurant. It's a Mexican restaurant and we will not go there. A lot of people go there. A lot of people go there. That's right. So, what about the Friday thing before you get off of your man? Would you ever do another one? I don't know. The pay was good. You got to... He's like, I don't know about that. I think that's the problem with a lot of it is people can't do it for the culture. We did it for the culture when we did it. So now we got children. Do it for the children? It's like this. You'll never go to McDonald's and be like, can I get a free McDonald's for the culture? That's true. Where else does that work? It doesn't work. Can I get an iPhone for the culture? But do you think it would even be the same? It would no ways be the same. I'm not pressed to do it. It's a lot of ideas we can be doing. It's a lot of ideas. It's a lot of... We haven't even got a dope horror movie. We don't have a dope western. You're right. Well, you had a few of them, but I don't know if they were dope. They just had one on Netflix. They did. It's just like when you were younger and you used to watch all these westerns and certain movies and you just loved it. Now that you get older and you look on these shows, you're like, these guns are all shiny. I want to see dust. When you see a western, you have to feel it. Jango? That's what I'm going to do. Let me tell you. We watch Jango every single day for months. This is it. That's the greatest movie I've ever made. I was like, that damn Jango. God damn it, boy. It made it all come clear. She wanted to watch. I'm like, I got to see this again. I watched it one time. I watched it one time. I watched it again. Me too. Me and you the same. Jamie did a good job too. Jamie did a good job. Jamie did a good job. Jamie's the first cowboy, black cowboy that played it his own way. And he straight out of 30 minutes away from your Tarot Texas. That boy read it, man. Hey, listen, man, that movie there? No, no, trust me. Jamie did Ray. Oh, that's a bad one too. I was coming out of Universal. I looked at it. It was a big thing said Ray. And I was like, I thought it was Ray. I was like, that's Jamie. So I went to his house that night and I was like, Nick, you about to get an Oscar. You knew it. Well, I saw the poster. Because I thought it was Ray. He did an Oscar. But it was Jamie as Ray. He killed that. I was like, he about to get a goddamn Oscar. You know, I'm going to say he started. Oh, yeah. His first day in comedy was in San Diego. A place called Smokies. We always talk about it. Oh, Jamie. You know Jamie did comedy, right? Yeah. Smokies did a joke about it. His grandma said, anybody walked like that got to have AIDS. She thought everybody got AIDS. Anybody coughed like that got to have AIDS. I mean, it was just, yeah, brilliant. I know Jamie for a long time. You was at them parties. I heard about the parties. I never got to go to one. But I heard they was off the chain. Because his best friend lived down there. And he would come into the shop. We used to have a shop in Tarrell. And he would come in there and buy like a shirt. And be like, yeah, I'm going up here to go see Jamie. Damn late. Yeah, nigga, good luck, man. God, day. You might see anybody at Jamie's house. Anybody. But we've been going there since, you know. He's a great personality. Oh, no, he's a good dude. He's solid. We know him as Eric, right? Yeah, that's the question I had. I asked you, why'd you change the name? Yo, your name, you had to. He told me about me. I'm telling you what the people that sent me. My partner said, that's why he changed the name. He wronged. The face of love is not your government name. He'll talk about me alone. What is your name? Oh, you shortened it. Okay, what is your full name? You ain't wronged me. Because it's easier to say. You'll say that. Change to the stage. Or it's just long. You know Richard Pryor's name ain't Richard Pryor. Yeah, no, y'all always change. That's when y'all hit y'all's start. When you change the name. When you see it written out, it's like, it's too fucking long. You want something. It's too hard for people to say. That's what I'd be thinking. You want something catchy. No, it's just easier. I put my shit down to one. I need more love on there. I need more love on there. I just want to phase out. Sinbad, I was like. Who would you like to work with? You don't work with everybody. Who haven't he worked with? That's why I'm asking him. He know. Oh man. He just passed Michael Williams. You wouldn't want to do it. He was such a good... such a... and Jeffrey Wright, you know what I mean? I don't know who that is. Who did he play? You probably know. You ever see Shab? Yeah, yeah. The guy played the Puerto Rican. Okay, okay. Yeah, Jeffrey Wright, he's like a phenomenal... phenomenal... There's a lot of good actors. And what female would you like to work with? Female. I've been in love with Sally Richardson. I've been like... Sally Richardson is like... I've never worked with her. No, she just was always... Um... No. Do you think you could work with her? Sally Richardson? Of course. The money, right? He's gonna work with whoever. Believe that. You don't think I'd be too nervous? I've worked with Beyoncé before. That's heavy. Now, as you know, she's even used to now. That's heavy. I couldn't do that. No, the money, right? I probably would have acted like that. I'm gonna tell you the truth. I was nervous. You was nervous? Because they brought her into the witch causes to meet me. Because... And I was like... Beyoncé wants to meet you. And I was like... Aw, hell. Aw, how do I get it together? We walked in. What did you say? You had stumble, did you? Bam! Bam! Um... Bam! Bam! She's so nice and beautiful. She's... She's just nice. You know what I'm saying? She's like... A down-home girl. She was all like... I was like... Hi. Hello, Beyoncé. Did you ask yourself did I do it right after you left? Did I do it right? Did I do it right? I know how to do it. Did I do it? Damn, did I miss it? We were filming Finding Temptation that had this dumbass wig on. Yeah, yeah. And I was like... Nice... Did I get you to act like you don't care? Nice to meet you. She was so nice and sweet. I was like... Um... Yeah, I remember... Yeah. Yeah, so that... That was one of the moments. You can't forget stuff like that. I'm writing something for now for me and Holly Berry. Are you? I seen her on a movie the other night. I didn't like the movie, but my wife kept watching it. I think she was... I was like... I want to see the old Holly. She's an actress that goes for... Her first role was a crack at it. Yeah, I know it. So that's when she's going for the edge. She goes. She's good at it. I watched it. I ain't gonna die on it. She'd be fighting and everything. That was a good movie. That's edge. Something that you ain't really seen. Yeah, I haven't seen her do that in a while. She's giving it to you. Giving it to you. So you're writing something out for you and her? She might. Speak it into existence. It's gonna happen. I'm like, look here, baby. You've been on the grind for a long time. She's gonna be like, oh yeah, no problem. It's time you have a real leading man. We used to work together with Bats. Mm-hmm. And I was like... They was talking about the money on that one. You don't play about that money, do you? I don't make no money, so I gotta get to all those things. See, that's what I was wondering. I was wondering if you had ever passed up on a role and that ended up being such a big movie that you're like, man, I shouldn't have. Thank you much, and it took that. You knew already. Back then, you had to pick your movies because one bad movie, you fucked up. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You pick one movie, you want a man. Whoa. I know I'm gonna hear from this movie. What are you, my niggas? I still see you pick one. You just want a man. Oh, do you want a man? Oh, niggas. Do you want a man? You know what I'm saying? So back then, it wasn't as... you had to pick the right things and, you know, get the buzz and go, oh, shit, this guy was in this and he's really into it. Now I don't make him. It's so hard to me when I see actors because, you know, like, when you come in a very good movie and people love you as that character and then you switch in genre of, you know, like, say you're switching from comedy to action, people look at you like they just don't see you as that action person. They see you still as a comedian. Jamie's the most comedy... Yeah, he has, but then you have a lot of people. Yeah. Even, like, kid stars. People still look at some of them as children. That's why a lot of them have been crossed over into adulthood of acting. I look at how when it was a smolette when he came into the play, the boy that played on Empire, he, yeah, he faked like... He's talking to that sister's mother. Yeah, that's him. Yeah, y'all, yeah. Look at how he's looking at you when you mention him. Look at how he's looking at you. But his sister is a dope actress. I love his sister. What? He's acting as a different... He's different, man. You know when you heard that shit, he was at Subway at 2 in the morning in Chicago. In Chicago, I said, I'd have been up there. You don't go nowhere at 2 in the morning. Hell no! Boy, a sandwich. I knew it. I said, this can't be real, man. If I know why you had no sandwiches, I'ma have sandwiches delivered in the daytime. Well, they just decided that he was guilty. I decided it a long time ago. Listen. I was like, come on, man. Come on, bro. Knock it off. Knock it off. 2 in the morning. 2 in the morning. Some Africans. African. At least it wasn't no Jamaicans. Oh, here we go. Save me. They said, what, what, what, what? Why would I want to fuck you up, boy? Save me. Fuck you, boy. So, man, where you headed next, man? I'ma let you out of here. We just left. I love it down there. I'll be going down there a lot. I'll be stuck. I was like, yeah, this is it. This is where they say this is where the melting pot is at. So I looked at that Tila Perry studio. Tila Perry studio down there. Now we moving up in that lava. It's not a melting pot. It's just a studio. It's not a comedy club. You going? No, no, no. Just going there. Oh, so you just... All y'all down there? No, that's why I didn't want to say it. Everybody went to Atlanta. Well, I moved because my daughter is in Florida. That's close. Why didn't you just move to Florida? Fuck you. That's even closer. That's where her people be at. The uncle down there. I have a family down there. I will not live there. Would you live in Texas? Yes, fuck you. I will live Dallas in a minute. Really? I think when my shit goes right, I can get a court with her. I'm going to go... I didn't pick out where I was at university. Yeah, yeah. Right there by the college. You coming out through there. It's not a bad place, man. We have a lot of that. And you can stay discreet. You don't have to be... Nobody cares. Nobody cares. You're going about your business. My partner here. Everything is so far. If you come to Texas, you have to have a car. You have to be able to get around. I love it. I got them. I'll be on it. That's why I couldn't understand how people live in New York. I'm like, dude, I could never do this. I like to roll. Man, I'd be rolling, man. You have some keys in Carkeys, New York. Man, I drove from DC up to New York. And when I got there, I heard them take that damn car to that room place. I said, I'm not for the drive here. These folks, like this, I can't do it. And the hotel rooms, let me tell you. No matter how much... You can pay for a really good hotel room. And it's still this like... She got nowhere to go. We always stay in Manhattan. Yeah, but with hotels... But you need to tell us which ones we got to go to. You're going to have to pay. Because they're always so small. The money we pay for that room, we can go anywhere else and get a huge room. Yeah, yeah. Chicago, we did pretty good. We spent a lot of money. Yeah, by the water. Chicago is nice downtown. We did it down there. Yeah, but man, thank you for coming on the show, man. Say listen, man, when you come back to Dallas, I'm going to try to get you again. See, he can do good interviews. We've been here 15 years. Now you know we safe. Now you know we good. I gave you the right address. I don't know how y'all put it in wrong. Ain't no way that damn address took y'all to Popeyes. Siri just wanted you to go to Popeyes. No, well... Next time, just make sure the ox tears. That's right. Thank you so much, man.