 Do we do I need uh headphones or anything was it two weeks ago? We recorded something fucking thing wasn't actually recording like oh We've done that quite a few times. Yeah, and before we get started. He just don't ask you what we're drinking I think we can ad lib from there. Yeah pretty yeah And I think I'll just kind of ad lib off the idea, but yeah, I think that'll work good and I'll kind of do a good Balance where we retain the joke But uh you guys can shit on rolling rock, but I'll just kind of like I'll sort of shit on it But not too much where like because they like me they they like me a lot, so I'm not gonna you know Oh, yeah, okay, do you get free do you get free rolling rock? Yeah, actually one the kegs of it actually really I still have the kegs which Actually were supposed to be and I got like these cases and cases of it But anyway that was for the echo the dolphin video where I fill a um a Pool with with supposedly I fill the pool with rolling rock, but I Remember that one. Yeah, yeah, I try to open the keg just to that I could have something pouring out I found out the hard way. You're not supposed to open a cake. No, no, you know Okay, you don't open it Yeah, well, yeah, it didn't go so well. I guess we can all agree that we love the 80s remake So then what's the best 80s remake? Oh the best of all the 80s remakes. Yeah, huh? Well, I guess the ones I mentioned, but I had to pick one like maybe the fly Yeah, I probably go as much. I love the thing. I think I'd go with the fly, too Yeah, it's a bit more deeper as far as like Mm-hmm, you know all the subject matter and stuff like that I was gonna say the thing right, but that's a tough one. You know, yeah That's that's a tough choice. It is. Yeah That's kind of like I was thinking the other day Like you've got three big blockbuster franchises. You got Halloween Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street. I was just it just popped in my head the other day I was like out of those three if you had to pick one What would be What would be maybe the best like taking your bias out of it? Say what would what do you guys think would be the best out of all those why? That's tough. There's good ones and there's shit ones out of each the thing is they all got shitty at some point Yeah, you have to more gauge this shit than the good almost The way the shit Well, like some of them, you know, like the first movie was the only one that was really good like Halloween I mean really like the first one is It's just by far that the best was the most original and But the thing is I'm also thinking of it as like well, which one had the best sequels then and I think I'm gonna go with Nightmare on Elm Street for that because at least we had like all those different concepts with dreams and you know, we had the dream warriors and All these different things you can do with that with that idea and even though it had you know Some shitty moments and some good moments. It's still I think was a really You know fascinating series Where's like Halloween kind of got more just like at Friday 13th? It was kind of you know, it's the same thing after a while So yeah, I'd say because you said taking your bias out of it Yeah, taking your yeah, because obviously we all have our favorites right then I think if you take your biased out of it You have to look at it really like which which franchise made the most money And that'll probably be what that's the best one, right? It's made the most money. Yeah, you know Because if it was my bias isn't there what the fuck does my opinion matter, you know Well, I mean like you know you have your favorites, but I mean what do you just simply think is the best, right? but yeah, I don't know I'd go with Halloween just because The first one is still better than all the other first ones. Yeah, so it's like the first one trumps all the others So much where it's like I don't know it would make a good chart. Yeah You know, yeah, it would Friday the 13th sequel is awesome Same with nightmare on Elm Street. The sequel is awesome like the second one, but Halloween is like it's not awesome But it's really good. So it's maybe a notch below. It's like man. You can keep going Yeah, I would take forever to figure it out Yeah, I Like I like to read it Terry though, but I don't think you like to read it Terry. I didn't I didn't Overall, I didn't like it, but I liked parts of it Yeah, like I really loved when that girl gets her head whacked against that fucking. I mean that was awesome It's like so tragic The whole that whole scene is just crazy not just for that but like You know the aftermath. Yeah, and of course that sets up the whole movie, too, right? Yeah, yeah, I remember at the end when like Everything's dark and like you see like there's that guy in the doorway that sort of just it's really dim Like you can sort of see him and then like I remember the the mom when she's like She's doing that thing where she's like banging her head on the ceiling like I was like what the fuck this is you know But that's like a rewatch movie too because like if you go back like I heard there's all kinds of hidden things So like the the story kind of makes more sense You just find like all these different clues and stuff, huh? See I didn't know that that's interesting. Yeah, like there's like um Entire like you could find like a blog or something that with screenshots that sort of like just lays down everything Like dissects the movie So it is definitely worth Rewatching I've seen it twice now, but but I feel like each time you'll probably notice more You know more stuff. Yeah, see that's an interesting topic too now What movie do you guys think has a lot of rewatch ability? Most of those 80s well most of those 80s horror movies that they do like they're just so many you know I think that's great about 80s horrors. Most of them are all pretty damn rewatchable. Yeah Yeah, yeah, like like one hmm like a really good rewatch one that where you are Rewatching all the time like all the time. Well, there's so many For me, there's so many. It's actually pathetic We have rewatched how many times it's kind of disgusting I mean, I guess since it's fresh in my mind the old dark house again because um What I've been knows if James Whale had this like sort of sense of humor in his films that you know Where the humor wasn't so obvious it was kind of sub you know really subdued and I remember always hearing the old Dark house was kind of like a comedy and I remember having seen it tons and tons of times At first I'm like well, there's nothing funny in it It's not really like a comedy in any way, but the more I see it the more I start appreciating the humor it just gets funnier like the Ernest Thessinger as Horace Femmes is so funny. There's like I've seen where the electricity goes out or something and then He goes, okay. Well, we'll be miserable all evening and he says it as he's like sipping his gin. I Don't just the way he says it Yeah, that's a that's an odd choice for a movie that you love to rewatch not that it's it is a great movie But it's not like full of all this like action-packed stuff happening It's gonna keep you watching and gluting in the TV all the time, you know Yeah, cuz like the first time I saw I was like wait a minute like nothing happens in this movie Well, not much happens like they they go to this this old house and there's just this weird family The butler gets drunk and there's like a psycho locked in a room, but that's that's about it like stuff doesn't really happen till the end, but it's all about the Just the mood and just like there's there's no music in that movie it's just the sound of thunder the whole time and and there's all those weird shots of a of Rebecca femme in the the mirror like the the old woman And you see like all the shots of her face as she's talking like they do all these cool little shots and Yeah, I mean it's just it's just one of those movies. It's like every Frame in it. I just find something to love. It's weird like the color on mine It's kind of gotten kind of red. So I mean you could do it if you do any color correction You might want to just like de-saturate de-saturate mine a little bit just because it's like it's just looking kind of reddish That's probably just because I got the weird, you know lights going on and stuff It's my least favorite thing about editing actually is color correction Yeah, yeah, you're always second-guessing yourself Yeah, every monitor like looks a little different here looks different on this TV on a computer And then it's like oh, I got this with this one. I'm gonna change this shot But oh does that mean I have to change that shot to just weird now. It's like it's recording a different ratio I thought that was weird. They saw me when I moved the pumpkin in the beginning I'm like, why is the pumpkin not in the shot? So it's like the first shot is in like four three that I just did outs doing sixteen nine new movie recording, okay, I Get in phases like for me. So like, you know, you know the by fog phase there I think I mentioned that to you guys a couple weeks back or whatever. Oh, I got into the fucking fog like oh man, it was for like two months straight like Every weekend whenever I'd start get I'd start drinking or whatever And then like I'd have like a few too many and be like something would snap into me It's like I got to watch the fucking fog I got to put it in my girlfriend is like again. You're watching it again. It's like I wouldn't even say anything I wouldn't I wouldn't get drawn into an argument. I just put it in Like, you know what for some reason man, I don't know You know what the fog has be in a different kind of way It's it's become like a rewatch movie for me every Halloween because I've actually become interested in the the radio Parks of it, you know, like this is Stevie Wayne look out for the fog bank You know that really relaxing voice and all that like jazz music that they play somebody put that all together on YouTube I Don't remember offhand where it is but but if you look it up, you'll probably find that it's a KAB the fog radio So basically it's like all the different songs that you'd hear but then Sporadically you would hear the DJ Stevie Wayne and it sort of creates this relaxing mood But a little bit creepy because it's like oh that fog bank is coming So I've kind of made it a tradition to at least try to listen to that once Because it just puts you in the mood like you're in the movie, right that's pretty cool, actually You're in a fog watching Lost in the fog Oh Hang on a second my my video stopped here. Let me see what's going. Oh never mind. I'm on the wrong. Oh, I don't know Hold on. Let me see what's happening here Yeah, we're talking about evil that too. So we got a lot of it I think it might have just froze like just recently So just sleep in the car Y'all sleep in the car outside of your own house like you're not even living in the house Wake up and like shave in the car to their mirror The neighbors are all watching what the fuck are you doing? Okay, this clip three Trilogy's back in the day most of them are probably kind of like Pretty much the first one over and over again. So since we're talking about evil dead Would you say that like the evil dead trilogy was probably one of the first? Trilogy is the first one that like every movie was completely different almost Yeah, yeah, like it wasn't cookie cutter. It was not a cookie cutter Series at the time. Yeah, oh I Can't think of another series like that where two is so much different than one and then three is so much different than two Like Texas chance of massacres two is really different from the first one But then the third one kind of goes back to form, right? So kind of yeah So I can't think of another trilogy is like that pushed the boundaries In each movie so much further. Yeah. Yeah, like the only I mean I'm struggling to think but like the only thing I can think is like like One's that stayed a trilogy too, I mean that's also tough like because I would say like the first three Halloween's like if if you had just seen Halloween 3 and that was the newest one That's pretty different, but yeah, but one and two are very similar. So Yeah, you could maybe argue the Like night of the living dead dawn of the dead and date. They're kind of yeah They're all very different. They're all very different even though the same subject matter. They're all very different Yeah, that's good, but then yeah the evil dead movies the same subject matter, right? They're all different Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like how the dead movies are all a decade apart. I mean the first three it was like, you know night dawn day and each one's like, you know We got the 60s the 70s the 80s and each one of those represents the decade in which they were made Yeah, yeah product of your time me. Yeah day of the dead for us was a bit of a sleeper when we first watched day The dead we didn't really dig it But then later on man, it's one of my favorite zombie movies of all time now. It's definitely my top five Yes, same here. I think everybody's a lot of people's had that experience where like the first time you see day The dead it's like oh like none of these characters are likable or anything But then you see it more times and you and you really appreciate it more like That's like the whole point is like all this Humanities is degrading and they're just all like scumbags in that movie. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I love day of the dead. Yeah Yeah, you got the you got the good people right the scientists and all that and then you got this such a stark contrast between Everybody in the military the scientists versus the military is quite it's a bit of a statement there, of course Yeah, it's probably Romero's last zombie movie with a real big statement, you know Oh, yeah land the dead a little bit, you know I like land the dead. I don't know a lot of people. Oh, I do too. Yeah. Yeah, I like land of the dead I mean not as much as you know the first three, but still yeah, I liked it. Yeah, it's it's good I like how it takes place like after society is starting to finally rebuild itself and become Something again, but somebody has to go and fuck it up It's always that it's always the the human part of it right that fucks everything up It's always about greed. Yeah fucking people people suck So we're all fans of 80s whore Would you say that 80s is like the best decade for whore or I know James loves his universal Stint there in the 30s and 40s, but yeah, that's a tough Like the best decade in whore decade I'm gonna have to go to the 80s because just man the output was insane Mm-hmm. Everything was fun, you know, yeah, if it wasn't if it was a bad movie It was at least still kind of fun, right? So even the bad stuff was enjoyable in a way That's You go for this one James. I Gotta think about pick a decade best decade in whore. I got an idea It's so different though like it's like yeah, like like the 80s decade like it's It's so different from the 30s and 40s. So And even the 30s and 40s are different from each other So it's like like I really I feel like my favorite period would kind of be like the early 30s like the pre-code movies because they were just so You know sound movies were new so they didn't really have a lot of music most of the time and and that silence just made it creepier and It was just so like Cutting edge at that time But the the amount of output yeah, I mean the 80s was just like insane like you had VHS laser disc and beta CED like all these formats were going on at the same time I had cable TV and and you know theater everything was all kind of going on at the same exact time and it was like just like complete madness and and And they were just pumping out movies to fill each of these you know like direct-to-video movies and theatrical movies and TV movies for TV. Yeah. Yeah I Like the 70s. Yeah, I like I like the 70s. I think I think the seven See if there's so the 70s and 80s are so different. Yeah, it's such a stark contrast Is it it almost depends on what kind of mood you're mood you're in right? It's like are you in the mood for a slow burn kind of movie. What's the 70s? Are you in the mood for a fast-paced action kind of horror movie? It's the 80s It's like There was like a year Or like a sequence of years in the 70s where it was like every year There was like some new movie that was like this is now the scariest horror film. Yeah, like push the boundaries, right? Yeah, so you had the Exorcist in 73 and then the following year 74 he had Texas chainsaw massacre and then like I Was Jaws 75 or 76 75 I think so Jaws came after that and then You know soon enough you have Halloween and Alien and like it was just like every movie was kind of just Taking it a whole new step So I think you can say that the 70s might be the most one of the most influential like Or important decades in the horror as far as like influencing the next decade Yeah, like it really like what happened in the 70s really kind of shaped everything that happened after Yeah, yeah, I think the 70s is probably my favorite decade really There's so many movies I like from the 70s. Oh, don't forget a young Frankenstein was from the 70s too So you had that as well You can't go without your black and white horror comedy so Maybe I may have to change my You still had black because I was like I was thinking like oh wait So 70s you're all it's totally in color by this by this point I was like oh wait a minute. No. No young Frankenstein. Yeah. Yeah, they still went back to the black and white. Yeah Mel Brooks is one of the few people that I know of who Who's still alive who's seen the original Frankenstein in the theater In 1931 and he and he says it was terrifying like like in 1931 that movie was really scary That's awesome. That is fucking awesome. Fucking Mel Brooks He's got to be what it is 90s like late 90. I believe 96 here, let's find out age of Mel Brooks. This must be a um Yeah, he's bent. He's he's uh He was there for like the early age of television like he was he's kind of like his career has spanned like every um, you know Every type of media basically fucking. Yeah, that's awesome Yeah Mel Brooks is 97 97 years old. Yeah, oh Jesus. Yeah, the guy still his mind is sharp as oh that's what I I saw a terminator pretty young But there's that one scene where my dad had to like cover my eyes, which It's pretty tame nowadays, but um The what the love scene. Yeah. Yeah, exactly Where you know, it's not very explicit, you know compared to nowadays, but it's It's just that you have this action movie And then there's like all you have to worry about is the violence and the blood whatever and then that just comes up and it's like Yeah, my dad's like, uh, you know to cover your eyes from the chin eating Yeah, yeah, it looks like Michael bean is a messy kisser. Yeah Yeah Like he's all over her fucking face. Yeah Like dirty like he's wearing some bum's pants. You stole his bum's pants and everything He's like, yeah, like you don't know where that's big and I wouldn't put you get a get away from me with your Pants and your bum pants even when he when he steals the bum's pants and he starts to run away. You see all those Stains on the ass part Like Yes, gotta do what you gotta do When you're naked from the future. Yeah, you do what you gotta do Yeah, when you're naked from the future Bouncing off that so total recall either those kind of scenes are disturbing and fucked us up There's been any non-horror movie scenes that kind of fucked us up as kids Oh Yeah, I'm pretty sure but yeah, go ahead. Oh, fuck. I can't you go first. I think probably it's like that total recall stuff Is a good example. Yeah, that's a lot to a scary and It's funny because Fuck I had like a whole bunch of ideas. Like I remember like Getting onto the yeah, like terminator even the future scenes Actually scared the shit out of me as a kid like where the infield where the terminators infiltrate the humans layer When kyle reese is retelling the story and you see like where the terminator turns and you see the his red eyes Like that part's fucking scary You know about peewee's big adventure, you know large march. That was large. Yeah. Yeah, that was a big one And also there was this made for tv movie allison wonderland um, and it was a two-parter like mini series And the first part ends with the jabber walkie and like alice is like alone. You know what i'm talking about Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah And like I don't think at the time I knew that there was two parts because I don't even think I saw the second part But I saw the first part and then it ends with that And I think I was so traumatized like I was You know didn't even want to like uh I didn't even like bother with the second part after that or I wasn't even aware. I'm not sure but uh It was so freaky and I was like how could any kind of um Movie or program end that way and um Yeah, I I feel like um My sister saw it too Like we both kind of saw at the same time and we like talked about it afterwards and like did you see that like what happened like like And um in our minds we started making it more scary than it really was Like we just kept kind of embellishing it. So with every retelling of what we saw it just got like more and more, you know Terrifying but uh, yeah, no that was a very impressionable Yeah, I remember that and I'm going to change my pick for like a non-war movie that fucked me up as a kid Is it was another made for tv movie and it was just called david And it was about this is a true story which made it worse about this asshole dad who like kidnapped his own son because he was divorced from the wife And to get back at her he like sets his own son on fire In this like hotel and it's based off a real story and that movie scared the shit out of that's crazy That was and it's crazy. They made some fucked up made for tv movies back in the day Yeah, yeah, wow. Yeah, I haven't seen that one. Oh, don't I still don't well there There is that there is also that movie like for me like I showed you guys the vhs of that To catch a killer with brian denny where he's plays john wane gacy I remember that movie scared me too or the Because he buried all the kids in that crawl space Hey, and then like in the movie they find all the bodies and shit and I remember like my parents When we were watching it all together You know at the time you don't as a kid. You don't know anything about any of that shit like the real Shit that happened. Remember my parents. They were all serious about it too. They're like, oh, yeah Like and they were they told me like a bunch of shit that he did. I was like what? That hat this was real That was actually real as like holy fuck that scared the shit out I wanted to do this first and I forgot maybe I'll cut it in put it first Did you did you want to like tease that you have something really special happening for halloween? Not to say that what you're doing, but Yeah, sure. Um the exorcist thing I could you know we can we can Uh, okay. Yeah, did you want to like ask it and then I'll just say it real quick And then if you want to use it you could throw no worries either way But if you wanted to throw in the beginning or something several Michael Myers versus pinhead scripts floating around but it's like they just couldn't like because they're so totally different, right? They're like a different completely different world. Well, then again at the same time, uh, you know Jason and and freddy are very different too Like a lot of people kind of before that came out was like how that how is that gonna work because freddy is like in a Dream and he's like, you know, he can do almost anything. It wouldn't be a fair fight It doesn't make sense, but they made it make sense as much as they could and um, yeah You know to their benefit they made it work the best they could yeah considering how different everything is Yeah, I can see Michael Myers being like a Jason, yeah, right because Michael Myers is actually kind of shitty like, you know, like in the grand scheme, right? He's kind of he doesn't do anything. He just walks around silently and stabs people So yeah, like he's more human. He's not supernatural. Well, I mean Depending on your viewpoint of Michael Myers. He's not really a supernatural thing. He's more like just a you know Somebody who just snapped. Yeah, so one of the Unmade scripts just to quickly sum it up was that The the Cenobites were actually controlling Michael Myers from the beginning when he was a kid There's like they added a scene where like Kid Michael Myers finds the puzzle box It kind of opens it that Halloween night before he kills his sister And that's what makes him kill is and then later on Pinhead like you know and the Cenobites like, okay, we want you back and there's a fight. Yeah, that actually sounds pretty good You know, I kind of be down for that. Yeah I don't know Thanks for coming on the show james. It's uh, sure. Yeah chatting with you about horror movies and our love of horror Yeah, I had a blast. Yeah, absolutely until next time keep drinking. Yeah, none of that rolling rock shit Okay, take care james. All right. See you. All right. We'll see you next week