 You guys think about the rail project, where we're at, where we're going, and just your general thoughts. As I said before, it'd probably be more easy to get you a ticket to heaven than to get the rail. The rail that's got them messed up. Why do you think it's easier to get to heaven than to get on the rail? Well, look, it might be another 20 years before they get finished. And so, it'll surely be easier to get to heaven. All you gotta do is just call out to God and ask Him through Jesus Christ to save you, and you'll make it happen. Let me ask you this, since we're talking about where the project's going. Now, we're $10 billion into this. The original cost was $4.6 billion. We're all paying for it because it's part of the excise tax. How do you feel about paying for rail whether you want to or not, whether you're righted or not? What's your opinion about that? Well, I'd be honest with you. I think it'd be better that you get yourself a ticket to heaven. Because it's gonna be a whole lot cheaper than rail. All right, Rex. I'm counting on you here to come in with a different answer or another answer. Well, I can't take an answer right now because I don't really follow... You guys take public transportation at all? Yeah. Take bus? I take the bus. Think about it. Think about it. I live in Waianae, too. Seattle. Seattle surely got the rail for less than what we're ever gonna spend, and it runs all through the city. And Hawaii could have the same thing. I heard that they went and they scoped out Seattle style rail. But I ever looked like all we wanted was that plush stuff. And when you want the plush stuff, it's gonna cost you a whole bunch of money that you don't have. The state, the state's trying to extend the tax with no end date. So your children, your children's children are gonna be paying for this rail with no end date in sight. What? How do you feel about that? I don't feel about paying extra for anything. Tax with no tax. Right? We already taxed out, so... Do you think taxes are too high? Taxes are way too high. And not only that, they're adding more cost to the bus system, too. And you take the bus from Waianae. How long does that take you to get in the town? Well, you know, if I go like... I'll give you one example. When I go catch the first bus in the morning, it gets about like 45 minutes. But if I go into the traffic time, it takes about nearly three hours. Three hours one way. And the number 40 does that. What time do you have to be on that bus to get in by 45 minutes into town? Well, where I stand in Waianae is in St. John Road. I mean, where the St. John... The highway of Farrington. I gotta walk three blocks down. You know, catch the go to work all the way to... to Alamoana. So I usually work in Waikiki back in... before I injure my back. Right. So I'm not working anymore, actually. Okay. What time were you getting on that bus, though, to get in within an hour from Waianae into town? I mean... Was it like six in the morning? Five in the morning? Well, I used to go to the first one. It's 4.30 in the morning. 4.30 in the morning. 4.30 in the morning. Yeah. And what time did you get off? It got me before six. And when you got off... When you got off... When you got off... it was the afternoon. So you were in the rush hour back. Would it take two hours? Three hours? Sometimes the traffic can... If I take the C bus or even the express bus, 93, on the highway, if the traffic back up all the way, it takes about... I usually take it like 3.30. I get off 3.30. And sometimes I won't reach home by 8.30 in the evening. So, Bill? Yeah. Right. Do you take bus? Do you take public transportation? Yeah, I do. Okay. Now, what's your feeling about it? Well, I want to know. Do the bus people have a master? They seem like the bus people are running their buses like a track mate. And you look up two or three buses right in a row, the same number. And you think, well, that should not be 15 or 20 minutes later. So they're all bunched up and you didn't make sense to you? Yeah. So it looked like they're running the buses like a track mate. All right. They're running the buses that are convenient too. So people can get on and ride them. So do they have a master? Do you have any ideas on how to improve it? Well, who is the head of the bus system? Who controls that? Yeah. Don't the mayor control that? Well, in a way, in the way the mayor does. And so what would you say to the mayor about the rail and its cost overruns? And what would you say to the mayor about the buses? About the rail, he should have followed Seattle's model. But he had an opportunity. It would have been a lot cheaper. We would have had rail already. I'm going to tell you something, Bill. I'm from Seattle and I was on the ground floor when that thing was put into place and we had problems just like we do here. But they're not to the extent we have here. So we still have problems with the rail. I mean, there's no two ways about it. Yeah, but your rail run all the way from the airport and take you down so you can get your connection to the space needle. That's correct. Our rail hasn't got off the ground yet. What do you think it's going to take to get off the ground? Well, I think with some billionaires might have been coming and building us out. That's what I think. All right, gentlemen, Bill. I'm going to run out of money trying to pay the taxes. Well, Bill, Rex, I want to thank you for your time. Thanks for sharing it. God bless you. Bye.