 Welcome for Toffy's TV, I'm here in the 85 lounge with Evan Legend, Derek Montfield, friend of the show. Morning. Is it morning? It's a late afternoon, I need some wine, get me talking for three hours. It's trying to go, so we'll just be very, very brief. Derek, you're obviously the Howard's Way film as it is out now in the pictures. It's St George's Hall premiere and everything else. How important do you think it was to make this film basically? It's one of them. People have asked all the time, are we the forgotten team of the generation? I don't think I'm there just now, maybe nationally we might be. It's a great idea by Rob to put it together. It's great that we've got everyone involved in it. It's great that everyone's here tonight, but so sad that the Gafferic can't be here to see it and take part in it. But we've all got tremendous memories at the time and it's been great to talk about things. And as Rob said to me when he came round to the house, he said, you've got a goal mind here and nobody had him aloft. He kept you used so much of the stuff I had. I didn't know I had it because it just gets put away and it's now running to your lock away because I'm busy moving house. To actually find what I had in the loft quite surprised me. Because Rob's done this, no credit to him. I've seen the snippets, I've seen the trailers and it looks like it's been a well put together documentary on the film where you want to call it. And I'm looking forward to seeing it. What do you think the team at that time, obviously there was the barn and stuff like that, what do you think that team could have gone on to achieve? I think that team, if you look at it, probably could have gone and dominated European football or been one of the top teams in European football for many years to come. Purely because Howard would have invested in better players all the time and had a bit more finance to bring in better players and success to all the more money comes in so the more you can spend. I think we'd have gone on to bigger and better things. I think we were good enough, we were young enough and that's the point we were young enough. But the East of Gaffer made you look at what happened. 85, the bank came in by 87, we'd lost the Gaffer and Trevor and Gary went because they wanted bigger things, they wanted European football which we couldn't get. I think the biggest one for me is that we weren't given an automatic recall into Europe in 1991. I'd left the club by that stage but we were the last team to win, we should have gone straight into European football. It's happened now, so-so it's done now but for them four years it was wonderful. It was a great part of the football club, great to be a blue for the territory it should have picked, that's even more special and people understand of it. But a great time to be on the football club. I just wish, I've done interview gloed, I just wish that I was on the territory with my mates, not me giving my mates my tickets or tickets for the game, I wish I was there celebrating with them but I was on the pitch doing it, they wanted to be where I was and I want to be where they were. But no, fun memories, great memories and I'm looking forward to them now. How nice is it to meet up with all that again? It must be special. You see so many local lads like Kevin, Graham, Pat, Sheads, but the Andes, the Trevers, the Gavish Stevens being away, I've not seen Brace and Richo in years. I've seen Alan Harper a couple of times for a sort of reading but to see us all in the same room it's not so much the film it's afterwards getting together, chatting, reminiscing. Just drink water, loads of water. I've got a few grapes in mind though. Yeah. And I suppose the final question and a sad one you touched on it before is that just the pity that Howard isn't here to have seen this through? It is, it's one of them, it's Everton Howard's way and without Howard I wouldn't have signed with Everton without Howard, maybe it wouldn't have happened without bringing really an endograin, without market injury it might be a market in the racket, not that it might feel. There's so many ifs and buts but the main man was Howard Kendall he's the man that put that team together he's the man that gelded together with his backroom staff and he's been gone now for I think it's four years now and it's nice that we can pay tribute to him as well as the team because he's the miss a link in this film tonight and everyone knows what he meant to a lot of people. Yeah, I have run into Howard on my ups and downs but he's the man that said I want to sign for that book and I'll be forever, ever in his debt for putting the contact in front of me saying I want your side for my team the rest of the bonus for me, the rest within trophies and leanings is the bonus. What a lovely way to finish, big thanks to Derek going off your water with a couple of grapes. Cut a grapeshine. Cheers boys.