 I mean, just to put it in context, I am a gay man. So there are some of them that we get. Listen, my boyfriend's a straight man, and I just hit record, but it's okay, people hear this, because this is very human of us. I have said before, because Shanti, they use StreamYard, and I have been playing with StreamYard, but StreamYard always makes you look like older, like the filter. That's true. It is true, and so, he had done a video, I think, anyway, he was like, he caught off the show, and he was like, why did I look so old? He was like, very depressed, and I was like, oh no, no, honey, that's just StreamYard. That's not, it's just StreamYard. So anyway, that's the beautiful Zoom, it does it quite show all the wrinkles and whatnot, the passing of time over our faces. So StreamYard, so I just press record, mid recording, we always have lots of fun off camera, every show I do before we even hit record, we're always laughing about something, but I am so excited, because I have got two people on the screen right now that I have wanted to join forces together for a long time, and that is my friend Hillis and my friend Shanti. So welcome, finally, we've got you guys on a show together. How are you both doing this morning? Are this afternoon for Shanti over in South Africa? You know, it's cold day. No, it's not. Beautiful day, actually in the middle of moving, so off to new beginnings, so the next week is gonna be kind of crazy, it's freezing, we have a hot and cold day, I think Harp and DARPA is alive and well in South Africa right now, that's for sure. We have one moment is hot and the other one is freezing, but all good, yeah, wonderful, and thank you. Thank you for inviting me, and I'm really, really looking forward to spending some time connecting with you as well, Hillis, you're super interesting, so I look forward to that. Me too, I mean a lot of the things that Vice has mentioned during our recent interviews and the information that you, Harry, I just can't wait to really dive in to really see your perspective of all things, yeah. Yeah, and I look forward to it. And I'll say for you guys, if you missed the first week, Hillis and I have done two episodes, so how this all started is I met Hillis through Asiya, and when I first met Hillis, I thought he was just a corporate guy for Asiya, and then I found out that he was a proud weirdo just like me, and I was like, oh, goody, goody, goody, this is gonna be fun. And I will say, you know, you guys are the etymology of the word weird means one who is liberated. So that is a huge badge of honor. If you're a weirdo, you're one who is liberated. And so Hillis and I started doing more shows together and Hillis mentioned something to me, because I had done a show where we talked about the different star systems, the different constellations, and this theory that on planet Earth, the reason why we have so many different races is because we are genetically holding all these different species, these different humanoid species from different galactic origins that came to Earth and intermingled. And that's why they say a lot of people who specialize in this kind of theory say that that is why Earth is so fought over and that is why Earth is so, so, so important. Because we are literally, can be, potentially be, if we get out of our own way, one of the most powerful planets in the cosmos, because within every individual within your DNA, you carry all these special abilities that come from all these different constellations. And I know on my channel, we've talked a lot about the lyrans, we've talked a lot about the Pleiadians and the different works we've looked at. And I had somebody ask more about, in a comment section, about the Syrians, the from Sirius, so not from the country, but from the star system, the star Sirius. Not the radio, but the actual star system. Although I have some speculation as to why they named that radio program Sirius. And Hill has mentioned something about the Dogon people. And I had never heard of the Dogon people, but I sat here doing all this research, only to find out that my boyfriend, no one talked about the Dogon people, because he had researched them for years, because they're really, really fascinating. And I want to reiterate this again. So the Dogon people are from Africa, but as we're starting to put the pieces together, every single person on this planet is indigenous to somewhere, right? You're indigenous to somewhere on this planet. And all these different tribal communities, whether it's the Dogon people or the Druids or the Egyptian alchemists or the Indians, they are the Native Americans. They all were kind of telling the same stories with different words, different vocabulary. And then that got obliterated. But the Dogon people were able to hide themselves away and protect this information. And so what's so incredible is that they are literally the people that have protected humanity's history, not just for them, but for all of us, of where we really come from. And so again, guys, I will put part one and part two down in the description box below if you missed it. Also, Shaunty, before we get into it, because then I'm gonna pass the ball over to you, Shaunty. I just heard from Mornay. So we are usually Mondays, we do the Emerald Tablets, but I know since you're moving, we're rescheduling that for next Friday, correct? Just to let you know. Yeah, it could be Friday, probably not Friday, I'll have you. Yeah, it's the following week, but yeah, we'll talk about when then. Yeah, so I just wanna go ahead and say that for you guys. If you're watching and you do follow on Mondays, as Shaunty said, she's got stuff going on so that the schedule next week might be a little bit off. But with that being said, actually, here's my ADD kicking in. One more thing before we get into the subject matter, I just wanna take a moment to go ahead and show you guys their channels. Obviously, Hillis, please, please, please subscribe to Hillis. If you haven't, all the channel links will be in the description box below. And I think YouTube, or excuse me, Zoom makes me actually change out the page before I change it on the screen. Here are solutions with Aquarius Rising Africa. So this is the secondary channel for Aquarius Rising Africa, where Shaunty offers a lot of the solutions, a lot of, you know, we talk a lot about the scandals going on in the world, but this is a channel that's really focused on finding solutions. Obviously, we are going through the Sophia Code on this channel, and then obviously, we've talked a lot about the chakra system and other types of healing modalities. And then let me get over to the main channel of Aquarius Rising Africa, which is where it all began. Actually, it's your second main channel, because your first one got, obviously, you're getting a little too close to the true number of channels. So this is where all the more scandalous stuff is talked about and revealed. Of course, Shaunty does an incredible job with whistleblowers of all different walks of life. So if you are not subscribed to these channels, the links will be down in the description box below. Or if you were originally subscribed to Aquarius Rising Africa and you thought they just went away, no, they didn't, they're back. They're still here. They're still here. So with that being said, Shaunty, I'm gonna go ahead and hand the ball over to you to tell us what you know about the Dogon people. Well, thank you so much, Bryce. And yes, I mean, you know, the Dogons, we've, they, in my reality anyway, the Dogons, you've always heard about them. They, these, one of the very amazing African tribes and there's a lot of amazing African tribes, you know, but the Dogons are one of the truly amazing ones, but absolutely have been hidden in the shadows. But what really got me interested in them a number of years ago was the fact, their connection to the dolphins and the amphibian, I wanna say technology. So, you know, I know that they link very much to, I think it's Nomu, do you pronounce it Nomu, Nomu? Yeah, Nomu in terms of, you know, can you hear me? Yeah, I know what you're saying, it's, they have, there's a, there's a, they called the Syrian deities that came down, they called them newbies. And you know the size, for those who... Nomus, sorry, Nomus, Nomus, yes. I think the Nomus, yeah. And why are you saying with the dolphins, Shaunty? I know you've had Mr. Fox on and we talk about third density, second density and there are some animals, most animals are second density, but there are some animals who are also third density and the dolphins are one of them. They are third density, just like we are. So that's interesting, isn't it? Very interesting. Yeah, so they have this great connection to the Nomus. I mean, you know, the way you see it being spelled differently, but the most common way is N-O-M-M-O-S, which are, you know, the dolphin deities, so to speak, which come to earth and they can also appear on land. They are these celestial type beings and a lot of their, in their culture, when they do their dances and stuff like that, they have the wooden masks that are replicating the dolphin beings, I'll just call them that, but they can also appear on land. They are amphibious as well as land creatures. So according to what I've understood, they are not from Sirius A, which is the brightest star, but rather Sirius B, which is the invisible dwarf star, and I love that because it's invisible and that's where they've been getting their information from because they've been around since the third century BC, right? And they were only discovered in somewhere in the 1930s by some French anthropologists from what I understand, right? So they've been around since forever and they've been continuing their traditions, you know, generation to generation to generation. They just continue these incredible traditions and they have huge knowledge on agriculture, astronomy, celestial beings, just the universe in itself, you know, it's so beautiful when you can just sit down and connect. And I mean, I would love to say I want to sit down with them. I've never sat down with the Dogons. I've sat down with the Koi and the Bushmen and some of the ancient African tribes and that in itself is really beautiful, but just to sit down and connect with beings who are so fully connected, you know, is something must be something really, really magical. So that, you know, basically in a nutshell, that for me is what I understand about the Dogons and I know they have a lot of their, they know about technology that as far as I know, NASA only discovered somewhere in 1920, right? And they've known about this for thousands of years and it's all around agriculture. It's all around the universe and how things work, right? So they truly have fantastic awareness and fantastic knowledge on life, this planet. And I love what you said, Bryce, because, you know, I truly believe that's what Earth is. You know, we're a conglomeration of a whole lot of species, humans, whatever. I don't think any of us really know. I mean, you know, and we've come together and really just bringing it together and seeing how we can work together, how this works together in our day and how the tribes and people work together, you know, on a more external level. But when we discover these ancient tribes and their knowledge, I think that really does bring a lot of light to our awareness and our consciousness, yeah? Do you remember, Hillis, last week we spoke about too, the, we're looking at the Abrahamic religions of Christianity, Islam and Judaism. And according to like the Cassiopeians who we read their board all the time, those are the, that's the Abrahamic religions are the ones that really destroyed the truth of humanity. And I'm not saying anything about Yeshua or Muhammad. We're talking about the church or the corporate institutions, yeah. Yeah, the institutions. And what, I don't know if you even know, Shanti, so what the Dogon people when Islam was being brought into Africa from Morocco, because where they are guys, it's like right below Morocco is where they live now. And they came from this like dynastic family of Africa way back when that was a very powerful, very influential. We think of dynasties like the Tudor dynasty, the Stuart dynasty, the Winzers now, we think about the House of Valois in Paris, and you know, and the Bourbons that the Louis XIV was the same thing here in Africa, I'm in Atlanta, but over in Africa it was the same thing. They had these dynasties of these very powerful families. And when Islam was brought into the northern part of Africa, half of that family institutionalized with the Islamic faith, and that's why if you go to Morocco, there's so much Islam. But a small part of this family said no. And of course you guys know if you know that the history of like the Celtic people or the Druid people, you can't say no to these institutions. With the Druids and the Celtics, when the Christianity was brought up into Europe, the people that said no were tortured to death. And so the spreading of Christianity didn't spread because of some good news. It spread because people's lives were being, they were being tortured. And the same thing was happening in Africa with the Islamic institution. So the Dogon people, this group that left that said no, we're not gonna do this, they left and they hid. And they hid in this area and it's brilliant. They put themselves into this like terrain where they have these cliffs that surround them. And so back in that time, it was really impossible to get to them. And so they were able to continue with their heritage, which is really the heritage of all of us and teaching their children the truths about how we got here. And I love, we talked about that Hillis last week about the Sirius B, how the Dogon people knew where Sirius B was before NASA, before anybody was able to actually locate it with technology and they even knew of the planet. So according to the Dogon people, the teachers that came from Sirius B that were the amphibian and also mermaid, that dolphin mermaidic presence, when they left, they went to a new planet, which is called Sirius C. And Sirius C still hasn't been discovered by NASA yet. It's still a mystery, but if I were a betting woman, I would bet it's this, they've been right so far. So do you wanna talk about that more, Hillis? Yeah, I know it's interesting as you speak of this and those that know me know that I practice feeling a little more enlightened energy. That's what I do, as well as being, it's like medium. And as I sit here and I am being reminded of when you talked about Tarterian, those thousands of years. And so I'm receiving this information literally in this moment of this timeline of energy. If they give me, you know, bright lights make my eyes water, it's just like, I'm just crying, like ah, ah. But for people who want to understand first, there was La Moria, we all know La Moria. Then there was Atlantis, we all know about Atlantis. And then in order to save the civilization, the people from Atlantis went to Amrit, which is also known as Egypt. And actually, let me rephrase that before it was, Kennedy was Samaria. From Atlantis to Samarian times, and then it went from Samarian times to Egyptian times. And this is when the Egypt was flourishing. This is when we all had this energy, this abundance, the well of life, if you will. And during this time, there was a lot of visitation. But this also created the space of jealousy among the pharaohs because they weren't the ones who were being visited most. It was the humble tribes of the doga. As I sit here, I'm literally receiving this information. And it is in that space of humbleness that they allow themselves to receive these. Because the pharaohs of the time were not receptive to the truth. Because they were in this space of, you have to show me, you have to prove it to me. Because as pharaohs, they couldn't leave their people without proof or fear. And so, if they couldn't prove anything, they have to make sure the people to follow why the humbleness of the doga tribe was more receptive, more in the space in the heart space with them. And so with them being in that heart space, they were able to teach them, show them the ways of the Syrian galaxy of the home planet. And this created the sense of exchange, the exchange of wisdom, the exchange of knowledge of how to work on Earth and how to implement that wisdom and technology here and how they can be the keeper of that knowledge and wisdom. And when the time was right, which is now that this knowledge would to function, that this truth of the Syrian existence, the truth of why La Moria existed and how far the truth of Atlantis and all these civilizations, how they existed and fell. And it was all because of pridefulness. It was all because of things were not balanced in the cultures and energies. But this is why we have these ebbing flows of civilizations, which is now why we're at the part of what we talked about as well is the space of understanding the human A2E man. So the new human and really understanding the full spectrum that we not only bear witness to, but also inhabit that we hold in ourselves and that energy is being asked to be cultivated. And I know that's probably a different direction, but that was like an information that was coming in that had to be expressed. That makes a lot of sense. I mean, we know that like, and you're talking about that, I'm like, wow, that sounds indicative of our leaders today, the ego, the arrogance, the aggressiveness. And, you know, But not so much aggressiveness. It was more so that they, you know, like any good leader, there's always have to be proof of evidence and belief. And if no one can believe this proof of evidence, then it leads to the space of fearfulness. And so that was part of the reason why Egyptian fell the way that it did and how it turned the way that it did is because no one could believe this because they were holding, the pharaohs were holding onto this information about what am I gonna do with it? What am I supposed to do with this? And so this is why you have scholars, the artists creating these murals, these hieroglyphs, sharing this information and wisdom. And this is why, you know, you have so many temples and obelisks and other signs defaced because how true is, you know? So, and you go back to Inky and all the other creators of that time who were playing God, so to speak, and incorporating, you know, the delighted DNA in these funny, these strands and what we have access to, not just the gene recognition, it's also the recognition of what feels right for you and throughout the centuries that has been conditioned out of humanity. And so, you know. That's what science calls the junk DNA today. It's this brand, they say, but I know I don't think any of us believe that that's actually what that is. And while you're talking, I'm gonna go ahead and share screen because you brought up the Sumerians, which is really important because a lot of, when I was looking at the Dogon people, a lot of the scientists, these scholars who were starting to study the Dogon people were recognizing that a lot of what they were talking about is seen in a lot of Sumerian artwork as well. They're the same tribe from different times, that's all. Just the same tribe from different times. You know, just like, you know, you have, you know, there really is no way to really express this. You know, when you have the translation of time, you know, black is black, white is white, orange is orange. You know, when you go through these time period, when you go through these transformative spaces, when you reinvent yourself, the reason why people reinvent themselves is one or two reasons to hide or to evolve. And in this instance, it was a space of both. It was to keep the information that they had of the time of the creation of civilization. And it was in that space of the humanity's evolution that we took this and we held on to this secret and we shared what we could. And in that space, the humbleness of the transformation into the do-down people, up right there. So come back down. So I want you to see the mask in the center. Yes. What? So this is a depiction of what... Sorry, hold on. All right, keep talking. Let me pull that back up. So that's the depiction of both Samaria and now most of the do-downs and I've seen this tribe of history to a degree then and then also now. And I feel that you, Shanti, that you are receiving information or allowing something to commence or I will pass this over to you to express what needs to be in this moment. Yeah, you said something to me, which was when you were talking, said something which was quite profound to reasons to reinvent themselves or it's either to hide or to reinvent themselves, right? So it's like, why would you wanna hide, right? Okay, what are you hiding? So that for me again would be a choice a time of discernment, right? So you're either gonna go one way or the other with that and to reinvent yourself, right? So are you saying that part of what they've done was chosen that process of humbly reinventing? So it's a constant process of reinventing. I just wanna make sure I understood you correctly there. Yeah, so it is a space of reinventing but in that particular time of civilization, it was also to keep themselves safe as they understood that the world was breaking down. They understood that they would have to preserve what needed to be preserved. So when you have, and like with anyone, when you have great information, what do you do to preserve it? Do you hide, to preserve as you hide, do you reinvent and evolve yourself? Or do you be very bold for a sec? I have a secret, I have a secret but I'm not gonna tell you what it is. So. Do you know, Sean, you've run across this in your RU Vedic studies, but we often, what came to mind is what they call in the East is cacooning when you kept safe and when he said that, that hit me too, Shaunty, because it's like, okay, they were high and you're right, Hillis, the information they had, they can't taunt, you can't taunt people with it because it's dangerous, right? And you need to preserve it. And so it's like they went into that cocoon of like helping themselves but also nurturing, nurturing that each time. So that's something that's very much spoken about in the East as well, so that makes sense, spirituality. You know what's interesting, Hillis? As you said, at a time such as this, like now we're able to talk about this, Shaunty, and Hillis has also read the Emerald Tablets too, Shaunty. Both said the same thing, that the Emerald Tablets would not re-emerge again until it was time. And so isn't that interesting that this search and understanding the Dogon people, as well as the Dogon people were discovered by the French archeologists around the same time as the missing books, the Bible, we're starting to resurface. We've got the Emerald Tablets resurfacing, so I don't think that's a coincidence at all. Well, we are returning to the starting point, if you will. We are returning to the starting point of time, of energy. Now, we just ended this 26,000 year cycle. So when we are returning to that space and things begin to lift and there are two things happening simultaneously. Not only are we returning to the point of origin, but we are returning to the point of origin in a different spatial atmosphere. When I say spatial atmosphere, I'm literally talking about space, because we have this preconceived notion through teachings, if school teaching that we revolve around the sun. And that's it, we don't go anywhere. The whole entire galaxy, the whole entire solar system moves. And this is one thing I want people to truly understand that when we move, we are moving into a whole different part of the solar system where the energy is more in harmonic resonance with this cycle that we're in. So in the terms of galaxy space, we are at the beginning point. So the end is now the beginning. And overall, in the universe, we are in a whole different space. So it's the conjuncting of this harmonic energy that is radiating, that is allowing for this information to be more palpable, to be more mature. And so that's what's happening now. The information is choosing people to disseminate where it can be O, L, L, and truly understand. Yeah, I think that's what I was saying early on with the hiding and the reinventing as well. It was like, as you're saying, with this information coming through, it's kind of not only reinventing, I want to say yourself, because as humans, as a vessel, we have to be able to also reinvent ourselves sufficiently to be able to hold that frequency. So the frequency is coming in of a higher nature, maybe stronger, more intricate, whatever it looks like or feels like, but the vessel of the person has to suit the frequency so that it can be translated in the way that it's intended. So for us to reach a higher level of consciousness within ourselves first to be able to understand and assimilate that information. And I want to say almost like if we look at Jesus, if you're just looking at religion and Christianity with Jesus, I do believe Jesus had to be of a certain consciousness to be able to channel Christ's energy or the Christos, whatever. He had to have had that consciousness to be able to integrate it, speak it, bring it into existence for humanity, right? That's the way I'm seeing this. Alternatively, the hiding, I agree, is either gonna get people to run and hide in a fricking 360 degree radius, right? Or to still hide the information because it or the culture maybe, right? Because what you were saying, Bryce, with Sirius C, that still hasn't been discovered, but obviously we know it's their type thing. So maybe to still hide the culture until people are ready or maybe, you know, that's what I'm saying. So for me, it would be either one of those two, right? And yes, I agree, people need to cocoon themselves absolutely before they can just outwardly express and radiate without feeling that need to cocoon as individuals. But what I'm saying is to me, that's an inner story that reflects outwardly, right? So we have to be able to get into resonance with this new information. And I think that goes exactly in line with what you're saying is that the information chooses you. The information chooses you as its mouthpiece. I love that. I absolutely love that because it's so true and so profound. So all of us are going to be getting our bits of information with our mouthpieces going off second to none. And it's all unique to us, but it's all going to harmonize beautifully in a symphony at some point, right? That's the way I see that. So what do you say about that? Me or Bryce? Both of you. Say something. It brought me back to this place of where we are in our timeline right now, the three of us and those our friends watching right now. And you can't underestimate the power of the past in the sense that I just finished the Munakirites with my friend Cindy, who is a Peruvian descent. And when you're going through these rites from the Peruvian, from the Andes, you go through this like ceremonial stuff with your ancestors. And it ended up making me so emotional because I realized in that moment, I'm from the Southeast. The Southeast is a very witchy place, right? Like women are going to church on Sundays, but then they're doing stuff in the afternoon with their, anyway. But I realized throughout the course of history, especially as someone of European descent, and I know Chaunty is of European descent and Hillis, you got European in you as well. So this will resonate with you too, especially looking at the Druids and the Celtics and how harshly they were tortured for having these quote unquote pagan beliefs, which pagan was a word created by the Catholic church, right, to describe anything outside of this mainstream institution and that fear that then was installed genetically into people that they passed down, the fear of exposing themselves, the fear of clinging to the ancient traditions that the church labeled as witchcraft or as evil, and they knew that they couldn't expose that, but yet it still continued to kind of be passed down in secret anyway. It was like a hidden secret. And now, I know a lot of people in Cindy, my friend has spoken about this as well, that even when she starts to speak about, she gets a little bit of a panic like, oh my God, because that is very real within our DNA, that fear of being burned at the stake, that fear of being drowned as, you know, but we're on this platform now in 2023, where yeah, we get our trolls, we get the trolls, but no one's burning us at a stake and we know that that's not gonna happen. And so we are the hope and the dreams and the fulfillment of our ancestors. We are able now, and when you were talking about that with the Dogon people about how they were holding it, this information, and it's almost like they hit it but nourished it at the same time, right? It wasn't just put away in the attic somewhere to collect dust. They were nourishing it and working it to eventually one day when the pun intended or no pun intended when the star is aligned, it would be able to then, and with the French explorer that went down there, I mean, the fact that they welcomed him with open arms. They welcomed him with open arms to come into their tribe and live amongst their people. He lived there for a few decades with the Dogon, could you imagine being the only white man? You would stick out like a sore thumb. It's like my boyfriend has red hair. So when he's in India, he's like a sore thumb, but they welcomed him because it was almost like they knew. You know they knew. You know they knew. They probably... Well, I mean, come on, I mean, when you visited with beings that have great technology and possibly can foresee the future, these are things that were instilled in us from the beginning of humanity. This was cultivated in our DNA. All of us have the ability to be psychic. All of us have the ability to be intuitive. All of us have the ability to have these premonitions. And so, you know, it's just a matter of how we utilize it and put the abilities that we have. I mean, hey, right now I am, we're watching one of our favorite shows, Heroes, you know, which was back in the early 2000s where everyone had a different ability. Everyone had to get a certain ability to do that. There was two people that could take their abilities of other people and incorporate it into their own being. And so, I mean, if it wasn't, if it wasn't the desire to be superhuman or to have these supernatural abilities or if they didn't exist already, why wouldn't we even share the talk about it in such a way? I mean, it's just like me and I think it's, you know, time and again, you know, I am God. You know, I am God in this vessel. I am not the true form of the full embodiment, but God energy or Christ energy or Jehovah or the more that energy or spirit and play it in bacteria or whatever the energy, it's all exist here. It's just in the way and fashion you choose to access it. And that is totally upon you and what you believe and how you have your belief system in place. And it is that belief system that can create fear or love or judgment or happiness or whatever it is that you create. It starts with either the lowest frequency, which is fear or the highest frequency, which is love. Everything else is there between is just a gradient of those two. So it's how we choose to express that in this moment and how we nurture it when we do have these astral protections or astral visitations or whatever your experience meets and greets for you. Yeah, absolutely. I fully agree with that. You know, I so agree that we are not nearly as dumb as what we've been told we are. You know, I think that is most certainly being part of our programming over time just through media, education, TV, whatever it is, fashion, right? Buying unnecessary stuff. We've really gotten out of the things that are important in our lives. And that is why we just go back to this pandemic that happened a few years ago. And apparently there's another one planned. Sorry. It's woken a lot of people up to getting back to that connection, I believe, because we were living a very narcissistic life. Think about that. Fast foods, fast everything, living in 100 meter high buildings, hardly ever touching the earth with your feet, right? Everything, smart phones, smart this, smart that, smart this, disconnecting us from the things that are real. So I think the most important thing for us to start going back to our ancient traditions is to really start reconnecting with the things that matter. And if that means with your family, with your child, with your estranged father or mother or sister or brother or child or whatever that is, I think that is an important step to take. It's that reconnection, the rooting in. So the tree, I love the fact, I always use the tree as the analogy for us. We're exactly the same as a tree. It's no accident they call it the tree of life, right? We all are our own tree of life, really. And as long as we're rooted into soil that is strong and rich and full of and properly tended, we're gonna grow blossom and bloom, right? And that in itself is that lovely experiential journey where when we are connected to our cultures, when we are connected to the spaces and places that we feel most comfortable in, that's where we're gonna flourish. Can't we take that rose and put it into the desert and think it's gonna turn into a cactus or something because it's not, it's that a rose with cactus leaves or something, it's not gonna happen, right? But I think that's what we need to just go back to. And I love that all these ancient tribes are resurfacing. And it's not, if I look just back at my friend, Yana Smith who I do interviews with, she lives in Namibia and she is doing a PhD, never been done before on the human wildlife conflict, right? And she's spending so much time with African tribes. She's just been with Overeru now. She spent so much time with Overeru. And they are one of the first nation tribes as well, the first people. And they've been shoved completely to the side of Namibia. The driest, they're not like a hunt for themselves anymore. They are like prisoners in their environment. And that's how a lot of the tribes are being disempowered as well because their heritage has been taken away. And you can't allow that. And it's all been taken away by the government. The government now controls all of that stuff. So, and now she's working with the Damara. And then of course we still have the Koisan, the Bushman in Namibia and South Africa as well. And of course I know in America and all over there's a lot of the, also the ancient tribes that are making their faces seen again. And I think that is really, really important. Well, a lot of people, especially here in America and in Canada, I mean, we know that the Americans pushed the Native Americans off in a way. But the brutality of what the Canadians did, wow. They went like with their schools and their, I mean, there's so many. And I think now people are starting to go, well, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. We need to pull back a little bit and see what they have to offer. I know from my studies into Native Americans, most of the Native Americans where I live were actually very welcoming of the emigration of Europeans. And the Europeans were very, they were there to like work with them and they wanted to buy land and do, you know. And so we have to also remember that too, you guys. Like it's literally, I think anything this last, you know, however many years has taught us is that it's never been about us against us. It's always been us versus them, the controllers, the ones that are trying to manipulate. Because if you look through history and you think about even most people you know today, like I've had the privilege of being able to travel all over the world. And I've met so many people that are also traveling. And most people are very respectful of other people's culture. And most people are very respectful and wanting to like learn and be respectful and appreciate other cultures and participate in other cultures. And so you have to think that over the course of history this was probably true for most of our ancestors as well. It's just been these few groups of people that were just diabolical. And then of course, I think, Hillis, we've talked about this in my opinion, the thing that really strengthened us as earthlings as people of this planet is our differences. But that's what they used to try to divide us. But that's the one thing that gives us the most strength is the fact that- Yeah, the unification. Because at the end of the day, how different are we? You know, I've been a healer for 22 odd years now, okay? And I've traveled to different parts of the world and dealt with different people in different cultures and animals and children and you name it, right? And there's one thing that's common in all of us. We respond well to love, kindness, affection. We respond in a painful way to pain, rejection, abandonment. We all want the same thing. We all respond well to a roof over our head, food in our belly, water to drink. At the end of the day, that's who we are. And it doesn't matter. We always talk about the First Nations tribes being African or tribes of color. But let's never forget the Celts, the Norse, the Vikings. These are first tribes too. Hey, I went and I did one of my nephews, in fact, did an ancestral DNA thing. I've got a lot of Viking blood in me, you know? Which makes so much sense. It makes so much sense, right? And every culture has its beauty. Every culture all comes back to the same thing, I do believe, you know? The more we study the ancient cultures, it doesn't really matter. I mean, I always honor the way the Khoisan hunt. I mean, if they want to take, the guy wants to take his son out for a hunt the next day, the night or day or week before whatever, they will do this incredible ceremony where they call in the spirit of the animal that has chosen to give its life. And once they've connected with the animal, only then do they go on the hunt. Because that then they then understand the animal has agreed to give its life. So I think I'm hanging here. Looks like I'm hanging. But you know, so stuff like that to me, when we do things with respect, everything needs to be done with respect and respect for each other, respect for other sentient beings, respect for the fact that an insect, I mean, the tiniest little spider you can find that's just hatched runs for its life when it feels it's in danger. Everything wants to live. It comes here because it wants life. So I know I'm not always popular with these topics, but I don't really mind. But I'm saying that everything, if it's here, chooses to live. I'm not sure that we have the right to take the life of another being randomly or at will. And if we do, there's repercussions, karma. We understand that. So I think if we all understood that, life would be a lot more easy. That's just my opinion. Yeah, I love that you say that it's all that we ever want. And when we allow ourselves to really understand the full spectrum of who we are, the embodiment of what we are, because we have been on this journey for thousands and years, just trying to understand who we are, because where we live and who our ancestors are, and that hasn't brought us any closer to truly understanding who we are. It's all about how do we love ourselves? How do we nurture and care for ourselves? That speaks more to the human psyche than anything. And on this journey, one thing that I understood and even understanding better with greater clarity is we all have our ancestors. We all go and want to know who our grandparents are, our great grandparents, our great-great uncles and mothers, all of us. We want to know all of us. And a few years ago, it kind of dawned on me. And it said, none of that matters. You know, on your ancestors, it doesn't matter, it's not gonna help you know who you are. And people can say whatever they want for me saying it, but it's true. Knowing who your parents are, knowing where they came from, knowing your grandparents, your cousins, aunts, uncles, nephews, niece, none of that matters, because what matters is your soul. And what's most important is understanding where your soul comes from. Understanding that soul lineage, who you've been and how you've acted in multiple lives, which is why, you know, past life regressions or QHHT is somewhat important. And that's why a lot of people are so gravitated because they want to know who they are. And, you know, the lives I see, and I can write a certain couple of books about, but it's just really understanding who you are then and how have you, and how you have accelerated or how you have evolved or transformed and what lessons have you received from that life into this and how have you incorporated this new wisdom and information. And so that's all that matters and what kind of that is ultimately love. Love of self, love for your environment, love for those around you, love for the animals, plants, teachers and everything in your surrounding as a teacher, no matter how small. I mean, it could be the bag and fly or the breeze in the air or just the plants that you have in your room, everything as a teacher you allow it to be. And so everyone's love to love. It's so funny. I love what you... Go ahead Charlie, sorry. Okay, sorry. I just wanted to say I really love what you, you know everything you've said there is something I appreciate as well. And, you know, you talk about your ancestors and stuff and I agree with you. I agree, you know, because as a healer for 20 years and I'll tell you why I drew that conclusion because I saw how much pain was being passed down through ancestors and not just pain on an emotional level but physical sicknesses as well, right? My mother's got breast cancer and three of her sisters and two of my cousins. So I'm bound to have it when I'm 36. So now I've got to go and cut off my boobs just in case I get it. I say absolutely not. I say, and that's when I came up with this, I don't know what you call it saying with my students and my whatever. Your energetics is your genetics. When you shift your energy, you shift your genetics. So when you shift the way you feel and think about yourself and the power that is you that understanding you are connected to God. You have God running through your veins, right? Or source or the divine, whatever you choose to call it. That is what powers you up. And the minute we get that, the minute we get that everything shifts and then we realize our family has been the biggest mirror for us. They come down as our soulmates and so close to us they irritate the living crap out of us most of the time but that's because we are denying those aspects of ourselves. So use your family as a mirror. Use your family to elevate you out of the stuff that they irk you on or hold you back on or whatever it might be. That's your kryptonite. Your family is actually your kryptonite if you know how to use your kryptonite, right? So it really is about understanding that they are our beautiful soulmates that have come to show us our shit in our uncertain terms and when we get the gift they give to us because they love us so much they're showing us what holds us back then we will transcend and then we see them in a very different light. Well, that's when we resurrect the consciousness, right? Because it's our consciousness that needs to resurrect from suffering. Hey, I'm the black sheep of my family. I refuse to be that a long time ago. I'm the sparkly one. They are the dull ones. I decided that and they all know it. So that's what I'm saying. So when we choose to resurrect our consciousness our own consciousness around that we start acting in accordance with that and it's not an ego thing. It's a very humbling beautiful warm satisfying feeling. You don't need to be in your ego and I'm not saying I don't ever get into my ego please I'm not saying that. I know when I'm in my ego and I know I get there but I also know when I'm not in my ego and I know when I'm in that beautiful feeling where I'm not in conflict with myself or my creator or those around me then I know I'm in a good place but when I'm in conflict with them then I know that's my ego, right? So it really is about being able to gauge your own inner discernment for where you at in life and the one person you cannot lie to is yourself. You can try but you're gonna resist that and if you're lying to yourself you're gonna keep punching yourself and getting yourself into challenging situations because that's what we do, right? Until we not and that's really what it is. And then we open ourselves up to all our first nations information all the love, all the suddenly the understanding that oh my goodness, this is what it's been about and that is what elevates us. It's that beautiful Hanuman quote from the Ramayana where he says, Hanuman says, when I don't know who I am, I serve you. When I know who I am, I am you. So my favorite quote, and you're right, guys, you guys are saying that, Shanti, I was thinking about, back to what Hillis was saying about the humility of the Dogon people and with the humility there is that sense of love, right? Whenever someone has humility, they're invested in other people's opinions, other people's ideas of other people's greatness. Not meaning that they don't know they themselves are all so great but they're not so worried about competing with the greatness of others and seeing us all as one collective whole. And so it is, it's again, it's that when I don't know who I am, I serve you. When I know who I am, I am you. And we're coming up at it about an hour guys but I wanna do this again. This has been so amazing. I knew it, I knew it. If I got that Hillis and Shanti together that it would be like a power couple on YouTube. So would you guys be down doing this again? And I'm gonna put an, I'm gonna put a call out to our audience. Oh yeah, definitely, I would love to. It's, I'm gonna, cause I know- This has been so fun. We have so many like, other awesome weirdos that watch this channel, liberated ones who watch this channel. And so because this started this, these three parts of this conversation literally started from one comment that I got questioned on one of my videos. And so it's opened up this whole beautiful discussion. And so we really are all walking each other home. And so I'm gonna put a call out to all of our friends that are watching right now. Is there a topic or a historical event like the Dogon people or the Samarians that you want me and Hillis and Shanti to kind of look into and discuss? I know Hillis can channel, Shanti's also a great, great channeler. If there's anything you guys, cause I wanna hear from you guys cause I'm gonna reiterate this again. This is why I opened up my YouTube channel. I love weird topics. I love studying stuff. I love learning and spirituality is my favorite mysticism magic. This is all my favorite stuff to talk about and I opened up my YouTube channel so that I could have a community with other people who had other incredible ideas. And again, I would have never gone down this road if it wasn't for that one comment that somebody left. So for that person again, thank you because you helped us look at got us together to talk about this and to understand a deeper level of our own humanity. And so let us know guys, is there another group that you want us to look into and talk about and just let us know. Put it in the comment section below and I will send it over to Hillis and Shanti, you can plan for another round table and go deep with this. Any parting words from you guys? Hillis, is there any parting words you wanna tell? Is there anything our galactic people wanna tell our friends watching right now? Our spirit, anything Spirit wants us to know? For you to sit in your humility and as you sit in this space, your lives have to be the master of who you are. And with the space of mastery, you simply become your whatever that means for you and whatever moment it means, let it just be that. Beautiful, Shanti, I love that your cat's just been chillin' the whole time. I feel like. And she doesn't often come, that's why she's showing me her bum. She doesn't often come and sit, but lately she's been a little bit more, less camera shy. A little more staffed down my face. She likes to be seen, but not too much. She's the real star of the show. I just love it, I love it. So Shanti, what's your parting words for our friends right now? I think Hillis, you said it absolutely perfectly. I can't come up with anything other than that. Be humble, sit in your humility and that's where you find your master. And your master is you, your self-mastery, absolutely. And it's a beautiful time that you have with God, Source, the Divine, whatever you choose to call that connection. I think it's just, the time is yet for that, you know. And in all the workshops and things I'm doing right now, and I've got to say I've got a, when I started a couple of, two months back, we'll say two and a half months back with the group of women. And I was starting with, you started on eight weeks. After the eight weeks, I said, listen, I've got another six weeks of this. Come and help me. Literally, because it's an incredible group of, small group of women and we are literally, it's the feather touch work we're doing. Understanding right now is, we cannot force things anymore. We've, you know, as humanity, we've got this, go, go, go, let's motivate ourselves. You go and see this awesome motivational speaker and nothing against motivational speakers, please. And for three days, you amp to the hilt and then after that, you kind of like and feeling all disappointed or whatever. It really is a time of being quiet and not all the time of course, but spending time being quiet, being still, really getting in touch with God, the God voice or your intention within you because that's going to give you the discernment you need at this time to be able to become that vessel that reinvents itself so that you can be a harbinger for this energy coming in. We cannot deny guys, all we have to do is look around us. There is so much crazy chaos going on and we know the dark energies are very, very active right now because they're coming to the end of their era, so to speak, of sucking life out of call it humans or the planet or whatever. And the more their resources go into reserves, so to speak, the more desperate they becoming, so the more fear is being created, the more all sorts of upside down, look at all these crazy things happening in the world right now. Fears being created in horrendous ways. So the more fears being created, obviously, the more people are giving that energy for them to feed off. So we really have to be in our discernment in our lie truth and that's gonna be the thing that gets us through. I always ask myself, and really, what would Jesus do now? It's a question to ask myself at least 20 times a day. I mean, and it's really just understanding, it's more from the aspect of wisdom. What would wisdom do now? Because I see Jesus as one of the wisest teachers. As a healer, I resonate with Jesus' teachings hugely. So in that way, what would Jesus do now? And I'm not talking about punting a Bible versus someone. I'm talking about taking an action that makes a difference. I second all of that. I think that sometimes we're so busy fighting for love that we forget to take a moment to pause in that humility and realize love is your birthright. It's all around you and it's what you are. And so take that moment to take a deep breath and know that you are a eternal soul that comes from that place of love and it's all around you. And as you were talking to Hillis earlier about getting the information, I just felt that all of these beings of our heritage that we can't see right now that they are all around us and they're cheering us on and they're rooting for us just like a parent cheers on a child. And yeah, I absolutely guys. So this has been a very, I knew it. I'm gonna pat myself in the back. I knew it. I knew getting Shanti and Hillis together would be amazing. So I'm gonna be mad. That was really cool. Thank you Hillis. That was really cool. It was really great to meet you. Yeah. Where do you live? Where do you live? I live in Florida. I was hoping that you mean I might be a little bit closer so we could hang out sometime. You never know. I mean, we have things go. I don't believe that our continents are actually close together. They're closer together than we can say are. I'm gonna be real pissed though. I'm gonna be real sad. I could probably paddle ski to you. I'd be really annoyed if I could paddle ski to you, right? I'm gonna hop on a canoe and just get to Shanti's house and be like, damn, I spent so much money on plane tickets. I'm gonna share this. So, put some floaties on. So annoying. I'm gonna paddle over to Shanti. So anyway, guys, be laughing. But one day soon, I know we've got, I was listening to some stuff yesterday. It's about to get real interesting for our world again. But you know what? That's what makes it fun. So here we go, guys. We're just ending. I loved how you said that. Hillers, we're ending. The old and Shanti just re-ending the old. And with that ending, we're starting anew again. With the good old. With the ancient system of old. Not the darkness. So you guys, anyway, guys, of course, always leave us your thoughts and your opinions down in the comment section below. Let us know if there's any other topics you want us to explore for you with you. Please be respectful in the comment section below. Obviously, all the trolls, you can't burn us at the stake. So- Bless them, bless them, bless them trolls. As we say down here in the south, in the south, savage southern women, bless your heart, honey, which just means you're a dumbass. Bless your heart. Anyway, you guys, we love you and we will talk to you soon. Bye, everybody. Yes, guys, thank you so much.