 Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one It's a nigga big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh Name another podcast like this Check it, check it, check it, it's your boy, E-C-E-O And I'm Money Mose, by the way And we creating content every damn day Hey, man, check it, man, hey, man We got a guy here right now, y'all He's a regular on boss talk, man Ever since I started the platform God put this man in my life, man He come down and check on me every 9D And we in Texas, man My guy's here, man Mr. Melvin Farmer, man What's going on? Man, thank you for having me Man, thank you for coming Man, it's a pleasure to see you and Money Mose He called a lot He called a lot to check up on people So I always try to keep the dialogue going, man Man, thank you so much, man You know, you've been a blessing to the show, man I wanted to call in favors I know I called you, I told you I said, man, I want face on love on the show, man And people don't realize how this stuff happened So it was like, man And you were like, man, you know I don't know, I try to call this person, that person But then you say, just tell him I said to do it That's when you know I didn't say it like, let's, let's Because you know they did They're taking the wrong way What it was, you asked me did I know Faizan And that's my boy From back in the days Doing when he was first coming out in the game And I just You had somebody and I just say Nobody, when you see him Just send him my regards and ask him to call me And maybe he could do a favor for you And that's how Faizan And not only him Fred Hampton, Jr. That's it Lamar Lubin Yeah, Lamar Lubin, dirty writing Lamar said, I gotta do it He said this just the other day He calls me all the time too He's like, man, when Melvin said I didn't even want to go, man I was so happy I got to meet y'all It was just love afterwards But I knew I had to go Because Melvin had asked me to go Yeah, and usually I don't ask for favors I just think, you know, try to create Marriages in the game Where people's voices can be heard And do what I can to help out I just want to say thank you, man Thank you for that, man It was, man OG Percy Not when you and OG Percy Hell of a transition But when you came, man It was an honor to be in your presence, man No, I said it right It was just an honor Because a lot of times people They'll look at you as a myth or a figure Because they never get to meet you But they've heard stories Or they've seen you on different platforms And it's like, dang I'm really sitting here next to man I'm sitting here next to this man You know what I mean And I think that's something else Because that can be a good influence, too It can be whichever way influence You want to influence it, right? Yes, sir Particularly when guys like Percy and him That come a little while later As you know, the Crips Bloods Start in LA But as they start fending out Across the land A lot of times you'll see these images Of guys that you only read Or hear about They don't be so much start-struck It's more like A sacrilege To where you're giving your props Or whatever, the respect Because I don't like to be called OG Because of The stigmatism Attached to it, gangs And all that So I don't really like to be called an OG Because of what it represents now And so I try to change the language To where we're just opportunity Givers Giving people a chance to change their life And don't go down the same paths We was That's the game Like I said, it's just something That you've been I heard it from I always say Pop Johnson He said I was 61 I won Like he was talking about the younger people who were dying But to be the age that you've been You've been 60, what, 3? 65 How much time do you do in prison? I did over 30 some years Over 30 some years in prison 65 years That's the part where You have to look at you And understand What you've been through The strides in life That you've taken to be here today And then for a young man That's done, even had a smidge of issues Or even thinking about getting into something Look at you and anything can change Yeah That's the game A lot of people tend Have a better respect For somebody that's lived the life That they live because they're closest To the problem so they're probably Just as close to the solution Whereas we have a lot of people up here Creating dialogues About certain situations But it really doesn't have a vested Input Or really nothing that can Really Make this happen when it comes Public safety The lyrics Criminal Redefining our community Restorative justice Mental illness Homelessness Drug addiction Mass incarceration, education Over-incarceration is what we pity So a lot of times our voices Shout out by those that are doing The screaming and the shouting And the hollering but it's the reason That people talk calmly When was the first time you've seen In your account Somebody that was a crib Or claimed to sit It doesn't have to be a crib It could be any set outside of California That would have had to been starting On the west side I can't speak for Compton Or elsewhere else But I know on the west side We're not a CIF school We're inner city So that means we're city We're not with the state 300 California inner scholastic Federation We're inner city schools So one of the first schools That started giving the inner city Kids a D1 opportunity As opposed to A historical black college Colorado Colorado started letting Geron Cherry That came from Washington High Eric B. N. Amidas NFL coach All these guys come from the inner city So James Lofton all Pearl Rye receiver For the Green Bay Packers Reggie Diaz Daryl Strawberry And guys of this nature And that's how that came about Where everybody That's when I knew that they started Cocaine was coming out at that time Ether Basin Before Rocks This in 776 Right up in there They were Ether Basin Prior to that you had the disco era Where it was fashionable to snort cocaine Where it changed Then you had the black exploitation era 1972 Melbourne Van Peebles So we knew about cocaine From the black exploitation era Comeback Charleston Blue Shaft and all those type of movies That glorify cocaine abuse Heron Horn and pimping is the best thing Going so It's nothing new as far as What's going on now How different was it? You know you got it I can ask all kinds of questions When Marvin Gaye was out and there was no hip hop How different was it back then? Well back then you had Stories of Broken romances Love Wasn't no bitches in horn Teddy pillow grass Turned out the lights and closed the door You know he was one of the first ones To Actually have women That I knew in my era In the early 70s Teddy Pendergrass Marvin Gaye You had Isley Brothers was very big But one of the most influential Musicians As far as the culture Particularly in Los Angeles And the Crips and the Bloods Was James Brown Yeah A lot of the games that were off the west side Were named After Records You got the Payback Crips You got Watergate James Brown made This is Watergate You got the Underground Which is made by Curtis Mayfield The Underground You got the Family Song Which is the Englewood Families After they were chained game So James Brown When we were growing up 71, 72, 73 Up in there you had people That were singing about black pride You got white stacks And those were the conditions That were going on back then And now they think it don't change Which it has But the struggle is still the same We don't want from water holes It's the choke holes now So what's really changed The holes don't change That's all I want to ask you about You look at the time When you look in hip hop It's on the west coast And I hear these stories about MC Hammer It's like He may have been dancing one way But then the side Of being up from California comes out In some of the things that he was dealing with People would look at him in a way All he danced But in another way They look at him like he's just an entertainer But if you really One thing about prison You learn the judge character And when I see MC Hammer And I knew that he'd been to the army And to the service That tells me he's not a punk Because they're learning skills To survive in the things of that So I heard a lot of stories But I knew MC Hammer From when we were first in hip hop In fact, we were the first ones To make a hip hop song After No, we were second The west coasts made we all in the same gang And boogie down production had made Nothing but self-destruction So when you hear When I hear them talking about the lyrics And all this now We've been done that I was a member of Grand Jury Records With Michael Conception Arguably one of the biggest moguls In the game, he the last one Standing most definitely Since hip hop started But I happened to be there When he thought of the ideal Grand Jury Records then Teddy Riley gave him his break And then we was with New Jack Swing And you had Timberland Magoo and I think her name Was Elliott, Missy Elliott Just before they even went on their solo careers And then after that It came with Russell Simmons come next And then he got Black Street signed Where nobody could sign it And then he made 11 The agent of whoever he met And so we've been in the game Of hip hop Since it started up to now Just was with Millie Mail From Grand Master Flash The Fleury is 5 And if you've seen the video Me and him talking reminiscing From back then They used to call us back then Twins, Melvin and Melvin So I got a long history As far as the hip hop When Mike Tyson come around For Sam Dee's young emcee I was there when D.O.C. Heard his neck I didn't even know who D.O.C. was And we went to a He from Dallas, shout out D.O.C. Right, in fact, after he got into the wreck When he heard his neck We was all at a celebrity basketball game At El Semino College With Golden State Warriors That's when it was Mitch Richmond, Tim Hardaway And Mullins There, the quarterback And the other ones there And so we walking through the parking lot And I see a dude with a long Leather coat on And a blue bandana But he's kind of distraught And he heard me saying And I'm noticing him, he's steady saying I'm through with money, I'm through with money I'm through with money, my voice But I didn't know who he was So I asked Mike, man Who this brother over here crying That's D.O.C. Then D.O.C. ended up going To Dallas, I believe This right when he had to So I've been around here Pop a good little while Back in the 70s You said the crack first came I'm like, where did the crack come from? As far as the cocaine Well, Marv could probably For me, it was coming from The white man, who else would have A boat or a ship or something That could bring it over But I tell you what was happening On the west side It was a fashionable drug You would see the disco Everywhere it was fashionable It was a status drug But once the black started Having money in the game That's when they started criminalizing it The 10, 20 The cocaine 5 grams of crack You get a life sentence 10 pounds of powder A crack you only could get 10 years and stuff like that For the tons When the cocaine game came out I think that The white man brought it But the Mexicans Are the ones Not the Mexicans, say from The little boarder right in tier one And we talking about Guides that were at war Over in these foreign countries Where they were using automatic weapons Which also when the cocaine Started coming over here Being dispersed in the city They also were bringing the weapons Of war And that's when the gunplay Changed on the street It went from the Saturday night fever To 38 and at the max Assault off shotgun Now you dealing with the AK-47 The Uzis and that That's what came out at the beginning So just me I just look at it like The government had a play In bringing the cocaine over They're in charge of it It wasn't that many hell of a guys Back then To where it was fashionable To be a drug dealer The Nikki Barnes The Tooty Reese's The Ward Wade brothers Felix Mitchell Rest in peace They had a different perspective As far as getting the money When you I want to fast forward a little bit Into nowadays I was looking and I seen Cowboy When, I believe Eric Holder Was going to trial or whatever It seemed like it came off They said he was a snitch And then I started seeing him Going on different shows Do you know Cowboy? Yeah, if you look on my YouTube and none of that Because there's too much Friction going on there Verbal gymnastics Tongue wrestling And like I say Lip boxing It's being infiltrated and watched By law enforcement So if you want to see a lot going on With me, I'm on YouTube Where it's closer in proximity To the people I'm talking to But last week They gave a Nipsey Star Well, if you look on there You'll see about a three-minute interview Where Cowboy's standing on the horse And we had a dialogue Where we talked So I actually talked to Cowboy And I don't get an interview with him On Kev Mack But when they come to Him and people I get something back Man, he's a snitch A Pure point of view All I do is see that he witnessed His friend getting killed That's all I see Cowboy's not a gang member He might be a gang member But he's not a gang banger See, that's where you get this shit Fucked up at It's a lot of people that are gang members You got NFL players That are gang members You got NBA players You got rappers that are gang members But that's all they are Members Supporters Or understand it But when you go to talking about a gang banger Like Eric Holder Those are the candlestick makers The game changed Those are the 10%ers Usually 90% of a gang They're not bad kids They're not doing the everyday criminality That a gang member A gang member does So when I looked at Eric Holder I mean a cowboy I just know from other previous murders In this universal I had a murder that happened one morning At 11.33 On a Saturday morning I get a call Hey man, one of your people just killed Such and such We think we killed him I say, nah, I just talked to him Well, two of them live It was three people Once they knew my boy's name That did the murder Automatically knew the two survivors What's going to tell the family So when it comes to A cowboy It's a damned if he do Or damned if he don't They looking at it from I look at it from He witnessed something It ain't got nothing to do with me He got a right to say that Then you look at it It's a train in the streets And it's a cold that go with that So either way it go to me He can't get around it And people in that The neighborhood, because he's still In that neighborhood, he's still on his block And they not having no Discussions like that Up in the inner city As far as it's threatening him It's a lot of flake that come with it Because the internet is like talking to a wall You can be who you want to be You can put up fake posters You can be who you want to be But that go back to being careless listeners To where you really don't Research it or you coming in With a biased opinion On what's going on anyway Where you already don't came in With a thought in the eye deal Of what's right and what's wrong You see what's going on down in Atlanta with the recall charges That young thug and those guys Are dealing with right now I don't know, I heard that it's on a state level Though I'm hearing it, it's not on a No, it's a state level, it's not a federal level I got an 83-year sentence Out of there where they got another law Called the Seven Deadly Sins Just as deadly as the Recal Act If not more, it's right up under Getting the death penalty And you got this in Atlanta or in Georgia? I got 83 years and I'm on parole now Where I've been to Atlanta, I've been to Fulton County And I hear a lot of these boot seats And all these cats telling these stories About the Recal Act and that's not true A Recal Act, particularly a state Recal Act Is a group of three or more Between the ages of 12 to 24 That is considered a street gang But people don't really even know The difference between a street gang A prison gang, a criminal gang And there's a big difference These guys here A young thug in there They're basically Basically creating criminal acts Within a little area They're not crossing state lines Or else they would have federals Another element that they don't have is They're not considered a criminal enterprise Another element that they don't have is You must own real property To where they can seize it In other words, they send the profits From your illegal gangs Being put into something that's called A set forfeiture So when young thug Niam Was arrested That gives them the state Recal Act But people don't know how the system Go when you get arraigned for that Now, when you first got arrested For the indictment See, in most states You'll get arrested in 48 hours Or 72 hours you're in court For arraignment Where they won't say this is your charge Come back two weeks later You're gonna have a pretrial to see if we have The evidence to hold you up But that's not how the system work in Georgia When you get arrested In their case, when they first got arrested They already had an indictment All they did was unsealed it And they arrested them Now, when they went to arrest them They found guns, drugs That's the new case they got That they just got But it didn't come from the Recal Act It came from the fruit of the poison To where it started there So this is a separate charge To where I had said on Cam Capone 90 days before that So when they got the new case You have 90 days That's why they didn't have no bail again You get 90 days Then they're gonna come back With this new one And in 90 days they're gonna unseal it And then you're gonna have a no bail And that's what happened to them To get a bail in Georgia They will drag you I stayed in the county jail Two years in Gwinnett County But Fulton County is the type of police station Where I was in there I used to run around with Brian Nichols That's the one that killed the judge The bailiff I used to be when he was on death row And we was in Jackson together And behind E-Wing where he was at I used to chop it up with him But Fulton County, if you have money You can pretty much In that case they might not be able to buy They weigh total freedom But they might be able to see where they can see Some daylight I don't been there at Fulton County Where the police don't brought in guns Where they don't pay them And they don't shot each other in jail If you are in Fulton County That's the place to be Where if you got some money You might get a little bit justice And get a little bit more freedom One lady down there Her name is Mrs. Fana Williams I think F-A-N-I, I know She says it's going to be two more If she said it They got the indictment They just haven't unsealed it And let me tell you a little bit about her That a lot of people don't know She also prosecuted Trump for voter fraud Back when he was running for election And he was saying Atlanta, Georgia And all of them were committing voter fraud She prosecuted Trump behind that See, she had brand before For prosecution He had DA or whatever down there And she lost But she had a vested interest In getting a young thug there Because of the fact She knew the murder victim family So she had incentive to come there But if she say there's two more indictments You can pretty much Bet that they already have them And they haven't been unsealed If she says it's going to be two big rappers Then she's two more If she's saying that, she already got I know one of them, but I ain't putting that Yeah, that's what she's saying She said it'll be two more And she's pretty adamant about it No, they don't, let me tell you Another murder that happened Was the Marquis-Proved murder The old guy killed at our day care center And I was holding a press conference And we had a town hall meeting And I was with the victim's mother Sharon Williams And so we stand in there And the head of police get up there Cheap parks and all them This one he was Cheap Park Before he was councilman And he said, the police said Hey, we guarantee We're going to catch a suspect Within 72 hours I looked at her and I said, you hear what he said? And she said, what? I said, he just said, they're going to catch somebody You can bet That's what they're going to do So a lot of times when they make them statements They're standing where you can take it And take it to what it says Because a lot of times They won't tell you the information About a murder So if a prank call come in They can distinguish, hey This guy, but if you tell them That they don't know that involved a case Then they'll take it a little bit more serious So they got a way of weeding out What's real and what that But when they speak, they're usually speaking On the truth I've seen a deal where, didn't you see that where I think they're saying that Charleston got surrounded By Meek Meals, Neil But there's never no video In Vegas I mean, they got cameras everywhere But like I was saying People don't expect to just see it Well, I don't know why when everything they do They're trying to go viral And it seems like every time he create A story, there's nothing to back it up So why not go with the facts That we're going by That's what somebody's saying And that's what happens a lot in this When I think of And I talk to him By the way, when I had got these transcripts What's his name NBA Soldier Boy Florida or whatever And somebody's like I said, I don't look at the internet But somebody sent me the tape But when I listened I hear the way it said Charleston White men sing Soldier Boy Walking So they created The situation by getting out Going up to them See, that's a careless listener So now you would infer Oh, they cross paths when in fact Charleston White, there was no videos There There was no swollen eyes From the mace And already when they called me I said man, don't come call me about him Saying he sprays, he ain't mace nobody And then you heard him, everything he say I'm suing WAC 100 for 500 Ain't no lawsuit I'm suing this All of it is puff, it's smokes And when you really look at it And let's look at this body of work I ain't heard of seeing him do nothing But running some out And I ain't got nothing, there's nothing wrong But if you're talking, you know, you're all sitting Support, let's match up With me and Marvin and let's see what we've been doing And they can start off with a resume Him, Drew Barry Drew Barry And say please All of them can jump up on here That's what we want to do, we want to step to the mic See where you at Man, I just know A lot of stories is coming out I know you will say it in a minute These guys, they're not even These things are not happening, these guys are not But these narratives Are being drawn out here so fast Every week, every three days Is something where people Are trying to stay relevant You can't tell it doesn't what's happening out here I can tell it, but That's happening every day Yeah, but it's like a new hustle now WAC 100, I guarantee you WAC 100 gonna have some come out on Sometimes another this week Because it's lucrative too It's very lucrative For things to keep happening On a daily basis That's the only way it stays interesting But it's so To me, it's a ceiling Where you only can go so far And the same repetitive stuff Gonna wear out to where The truth, like I say The truth can never coexist with a lie So you never see Two people on there Look at all these podcasters It's one-sided And that's how Hitler controlled the Jews Through propaganda We got a newspaper in L.A. The Sentinel newspaper The only black newspaper Well, they got a few more But this is the most prominent one But when the elections come around You won't hear both candidates In this newspaper They're gonna have the one candidate And if you got a voiceless voice Or don't have no other avenues Your voice will get grounded out And that's what's going on a lot on this internet To where people quick To go up when the cameras are Where you at when the boots to the ground And the cameras not around Yeah, yeah, that's something That's very important, man And like I said, when I look at all of the different ways That these entertainers are trying To stay relevant, they're using the internet Of course to make that relevancy Continue, you know what I mean And like you say though, at some point It becomes something that It gets to be something where you need Something other than that, right? They use the internet, people's pain To make things the way it's built on Yeah, it's definitely a thing That people are doing On a more consistent basis This year than they did five years ago Or even three years ago But it's amazing that people will pay More interest than the internet Yes, they will See, that's where we go on to for That's real The first thing I was brought up on was Don't speak to strangers So why are we listening to people That we don't even know about That have no direct impact But we are listening to a stranger Whereas like in my case I didn't listen to my mother or father And you go to getting To where you're getting false narratives False guidance that leads you down the wrong path And so me and Mar, we don't Try to even discuss No, you'll never see a broadcast Well with me Mar being a little bit more drama You know, he gonna make it happen Mar being back and down But me, I never Talk down on nobody Speak somebody business It's just not in my nature Like I say, I don't want to see Nobody get hurt Particularly when it's just over words I'm a fair man to where I believe If you threaten in somebody life Don't get mad if yours get taken That's when you threaten in somebody life But when you're not threatening nobody life No more different than when you get A 25 year life sentence like I got For $2 worth of dope I only was hurting myself If I was using drugs But I'm not threatening nobody life If your show got my life taken If it was left up to man Man will take your life But God can always give you a new life Man, yeah, that's, man Those spoken words So when do we get our next book, man? Ah, man, they been asking me To write a book But I really don't like to Write about my past Or really talk about it Because what happened You get killed by association Like a lot of my friends Got murdered convictions Got charges And I have a picture up there And then I get a inbox Oh, Melvin, they killed my husband Oh, Melvin, yes So I don't really, I'm tempted About writing a book Because if it would be true It ain't gonna be like the stories You hear and see on the internet And they popping it and Ain't gonna throw a rock in a race ride And none of that shit That ain't how it's going It's a whole different ball game From back then from the early 70s As opposed to now I didn't come in the game Being no actor, rapper Or no entertainer And no image where we went Leave eyes, got fake tattoos Teardrops make you a killer All that, no, none of that That mattered back then That it wasn't how the game went And so I probably End up writing a book When I get enough time To where I can be at peace Because I can write very well And that, but I'm not at peace To where I'm sitting comfortable enough I don't been offered $50,000 To start the book But I just ain't really In the right frame of mind To where I really want to Go back in that age and time When you start the one to do right Like how many people came And you're like What made you want to do this Like what made you want to go straight Or instead of standing in the streets Like that Well what made me go straight Is when I'd seen them Planned when they gave me That 35 years to life And I asked why me I didn't do the crime They planted the drugs Saw me to get me the cage To get me out the way And then I, you know Early the other day I'd say well maybe it's God pushing me But really since I was The first one to ever get out Up under the California Three strikes law and history We were set a level four Which is at California It's the highest maximum Security prison you can go to Minimum, minimum, maximum And then this This is the highest level Where you don't see the sun Come up, you don't see it go down You're going to get Maybe two hours of yard time You're going to walk in A straight line with a human Walk where you're doing A human diamond line It's pretty much well You're not getting a job For 10 or 12 years It's like salt laying on wood So anyway We had a yard where Nobody's going home Everybody's life first We are trying to do what we can And everybody knew I had a chance On getting out on an appeal From a life sentence Which is, you heard earlier Maura mentioned One of Geronimo Pratt's And then George Jackson Them comrades that's been In jail 50 It's usually very hard To come out from a life So when I got the paper On the appeal Everybody was standing around Looking out the cages And I was shaking so hard Because I knew my life If this paper say denied I'm dying in prison It's over It's over with But when I opened it That first thing I'd seen was We won And I just told them Shout it out I'm gone, homies So everybody I had to wait 90 days That was kind of stressful Because the pillar The court could file an appeal Even though it would have been Married to this It still would have tied me up Two more years So from them seeing me Getting ready to go All of them gathered around And said, Melvin Don't forget about us And so that inspired me To keep my word Because a lot of these guys I've been knowing more so in jail And I've been knowing them All my life But we've always been in jail As opposed to on the streets And I just took it upon myself I wrote a book in 1998 I wrote that in six hours That's still relevant Then come 2000 I was with a political action group To where we actually wrote a law Called the California 2003 Strikes Initiative I'd send you a picture And we did that And then I joined families To amend three strikes Which was facts Cats, California's Two of me and three strikes And stuff like that And then we opened up Balth Who is that? Puff Daddy 2014 After I got out Puffy had started Revolt I was one of the first guests on there When he started it in Englewood Most people think it's on the East Coast Revolt started in Englewood And I was one of the first guests on there And from there I started doing Civil rights, legal work High profile murders Whether it be by friend, family Or foe Or those that are here to serve and protect you And I just started doing things To where I just started leading By example To show you that if I can do it You can't You know, it's a lot of You've seen the video That's coming out about zero When he was on the ground like that And that other guy was hitting him Out and spoke and said something I haven't watched it yet He said something like That they led him over there to tell him Something else then they jumped on him He said that they had a gang Of people to jump on It was a little gang of people How detrimental is that to two artists When one's pretty much Taken out of his element like that Where all of the fans think He's one thing But then you see him get Proved on like that On a stage where everybody In the world is sharing it I didn't see it It's zero, that's the artist The rapper or whatever his name is But at the end of the day when you take away The future and him being a rapper Or whatever and just look at it All I'm hearing is a young man Was out in the public And he wasn't jumped on So what you gonna do about it Y'all just couldn't say he a rapper But like A Charleston white say he's seen Eremus, I'm fit to go in the character Since everybody can go in the character It's an excuse, so right now I'm in the character, how about that So when Charleston white Goes and talks And does the same thing It's a difference But with this young man here All I see is a young man That was out in the public And then he got jumped on If that had been anybody else They asked this would have been the jail Once again it come back to accountability Y'all are letting men on here That say fuck Fuck Fair con Fuck What's his name Martin Luther King Fuck Harriet Tubman But if it was a white person Saying that man one of you black shows Y'all would be an outlaw But when a black said it's acceptable We are our own worst enemies We need to clean our own house Before we even go talking About the police house dirty Or any other race dirty We're the closest to each other To where we need to get our act together Fuck all this old crazy ass Internet talking to all those guys With platforms Or think they got platforms They need to change the dialogue They need to change the dialogue To where they all start coming together And using that platform to get back Because I don't hurt everybody But I ain't seen nobody name One of them that don't do something for the community Y'all chasing the ghost That's some bullshit Wow Man I gotta agree with you Because that's what it's really Opposite to be about helping other people Yeah but it don't change to where people Sit up here and hear this idle gossip And really they're really looking to see Who won't get hurt next They ain't looking for no information They're only looking To see who ass gonna get killed Next Because I guarantee they would just talk to each other You wouldn't hurt that at all You wouldn't hurt that at all You'd say they're fighting stuff They're gonna post it and put this stuff on it They live for the negativity Social media hates the truth It's like once you start putting the truth out They're gonna push to this side and Take the negatives and run with it They don't care bro No they all they want is sound, bikes and likes But I don't hear about nobody saving somebody's life And talking about the lyrics And rap All these guys, oh that shit ain't gonna change The only way you can change something like that Is when you're talking about the first amendment And laws and constitutions You better have case law Nobody opinions Matter about the lyrics And rap unless you got some paperwork Behind that Saying why this is offensive Or shouldn't be used I'll ask you something And I'll go back to Cali for a minute Were you locked up when It was the east coast versus the west coast No I was out What did you think about that when that was going on Well I had a different mindset Like when Biggie was talking about He coming to Cali Cali The niggas in California were saying I'm going back to Cali And they were waiting on him saying Yeah you're coming back to get killed That was the slogan So when you're talking about back then At that time I'm not gang banging But I'm in the shit in the streets Where we doing hustling and stuff like this And That camaraderie ship Was still going on And it had turned into An issue where it wasn't local We don't went on a national level Where we from the west side Y'all from the east coast And it was going down like that Although I knew both parties Involved but at that time Did it bring California together More during that time Well what happened Is California can come together And shut everything down When it comes down to it California is the type of state Where we stand up Of course we are in a survivor mode Whether it be in prison or on the streets We've always been survivors I never seen a homeless person commit Suicide yet Only the rich When I seen you Last time I don't know if I asked you If I'm going to ask you now The riots, were you out when the riots Was going on when the Rodney King thing Happened and all that? Well I had been locked up Behind some other shit Behind the Atrey gangsters Because that's who footballing them But what happened with me on that When the riots happened I was in custody but they came And locked me up to dare the riots And called me in and put me in the hole Behind the riots Then when I got out right after that To show you how the system is They had one and took all the guns From the surplus where they said they And by the way they still Integrating the 40-something murders That occurred during the riots That were civil rights violations That haven't been solved today So when I got out They had a statement To where they were saying The Atrey gangsters had surrounded The western surplus which is a gun store And they ended up finding Some guns that were Buried in the backyard Even though I wasn't there Couldn't have nothing to do with it In the raid and ended up going to jail On a violation Behind something that didn't happen So I came out right after The riots had occurred With Reginald Denny and football And all them to LA for Yeah, do you think that Like during that time Like I said That was before That was early on This was in 1992 Right up around in there Yeah, and like I said There's been a A whole bunch of success You got Hollywood there Rodeo Drive, you got a whole bunch of When I come out there, man My uncle in there is just So much history out there You know what I mean? And then to go back up by sloshing I heard that they opened back up Not the one over there But they relocated and opened a place A marathon somewhere else Where it could be true I know the other one that's Going by the wayside because Basically because of gentrification On that side of the town That's an influential area That goes and leads up in the So-Fi stadium But usually when you build Any type of stadium Whether it be the farm They start getting rid of undesirables When they built the farm 69 or 70 you had prostitutes Then they built the Staples Center And they start displacing the homeless Which was in the downtown area They didn't offer them homes They started making tent cities And locking up them because Of mental health issues where they Should have been going to a hospital Or they were incarcerating them Because most of them doesn't have The capacity to think and they just Used them and stuff So at the end of the day A lot of things had been changing Over there where it Come from the gentrification and stuff like that Did you ever, you remember When Master P got real, real popular And he was living in California But you know, Snoopy ended up Going over the after death road But did you guys, I mean With his influence, were you ever Encountering any of the no limit movement Well I never was, see I wasn't in the entertainment I was surrounded but I'm a jacker I'm getting money all type of ways I'm not no drug dealer I'm robbing ice cream trucks or armored Trucks and we got guys that Are having money also But they just weren't drug dealers And I never looked at Hip hop Basketball and all them As superstars or somebody To look up to to where Oh that's Master P Well as to me, it'll be Master P standing next to me They give him credibility And him standing next to me Oh that's Melbourne with no Not with this culture here Because of who you are And we're from the culture that they probably Now he might be from New Orleans And they got a different flavor But when it comes to the West Coast rap We are the culture We are the ones that they talked About to create the culture In which it is now Sorry to say, but that's how That culture came To me on the West Coast It was about knowledge on the East Coast They spent knowledge Having fun But when NWA and us Our culture wasn't the same We couldn't sing about No goddamn Twisting on your head Pop-locking We got Soul Train gang banging and Pop-locking They got what it's That when you break dancing That's something that the streets Are gonna do in LA They're not gonna be poppin' and actin' Like no robot, not the street dudes And that's why you see so much Uniformity in their dress Their codes, their language Their dances, they got Cripp Walk, they got Blood Walk And G Walk for Chicago That's human formality But what we're missing is unity To where we all up under one common goal And once we obtain that You and I.T.Y. Which they've been spoke about But that's what we're lacking The structure and the unity Once we get to unity We already have the warriors We don't need money We need soldiers out here Thank you so much for coming on the show We love you Melvin Like I say anytime I interview you I get to go through that That's why I love talking to you He's gonna tell you what's going down And we just appreciate it And people gotta value that So thank you man Hold on, I'll tell you one more question One more question about that book That's the second book we're trying to write I just want to get somebody else to write the book You write the book, but just get somebody else to put it out So it won't just come back on you like this Oh, you said so it won't go to you No, he said it's not like Like your stories that you're telling But it doesn't put you as the first You can have somebody else to put it out He too real to probably even do it Listen, he still get proceeds from it I just, he gotta do it the way So it won't come back on him You know a lot of people ask me to write the book And I just like I told Wally Enjoy bad ass now They man, just focus on the book Just focus on the book But I told them man, no amount of money You can offer me at this moment To write anything No amount of money When the God tell me it's time to write it Then that's when I make the choice to write it Because I'll be at peace But right now, too much going on I got 20 years 10 years left on parole One argument from being homeless And all this goddamn shit And so I don't have time to be concentrating On no doubt about it What about Joey Badass man You just mentioned him I mean like Give me a little spiel about that relationship And how you can know Joey Badass We've been like A baby in pacifized Since we met He got a cousin that's here To security, Wally, baby skull Out in New York because a lot of people don't know Atre gangsters are Pretty prominent in New York as well As other states And so Joey We met And we just kicked it off Joey's a very Intellectual And soul type of guy Like you see the chain and they say Oh that's for Lucifer or something But the chain he got also represents Or rocks Joey likes these type of things You're never here cussing Disrespect and He just took me up under the wing Where he teach me things But I teach him things And we just got a wonderful relationship Like when I told you they had Shot and killed a 10 year old boy He's proved he offered $10,000 Because I said we needed cameras And the county wouldn't do it So I told him let me borrow $10,000 To put in To help the community to say these kids So we end up getting that done And also Joey worked with Mayor Como before he got Outsted to where he had gave him $25,000 To Help in educations in the school system And the other week we just Was together where he finished A 29 day tour Across the U.S. In 30 days they went to 29 Places And right now Joey's in the Book of Canaan Whatever that 50 cent show Yeah we seen it we just started Going He got a new album 1999 That he just released we just had a party So usually when Joey Touched down anywhere close On the west coast I'm usually right There beside me And we just sit in corners and do what We do an Apsol might be there Chris Brown might be there Quite a few of them I get to meet Scott Scorch all these cats And then the thing about it Like me and Marv go to a lot of Events but we're not starstruck We don't sit there We don't lollygag We don't get in their way And they respect that No no it's to be respected because You guys already been around You guys are patriotic when they come down To that culture You are our culture so at the end of the day It's a respect factor when they get around You guys I know that And you ain't got time to be Doing all that because you don't even know How to do it anyway But Joey's a wonderful A wonderful kid Fabio Foreign That's my boy Quite a few of them Apsol Lamar Lubin Just the whole guy that got Ice Cube Snoop Yeah Ice Cube grew up I got a gang of pictures with Ice Cube Ice Cube's my boy Ice Cube name from the west side Dub C stay right there Yoyo grew up over there Jinx was over there Ice T from the west side Quite a few of them Come from off the west side Ice Cube is nothing but maybe If I was walking 15 minutes up the street from it Wow Right in the same neighborhood I'm off 83rd in western We got streets 84th, 85th, 87th, 88th So you just go 83rd Up to a hundred and eleven For 108th where they start That's no more than If you're in a car 5 minutes away Wow And they parents still over there Wow that's what I'm talking about man Well thank you man for coming on the show man We're going to shut it down man You know the thing I can say is man Keep on Coming to Texas Keep on pushing the narrative I can't wait to see Y'all got to get a podcast quick Because I know I already hit a pitot informative You and I told them that would be Something man I just can't wait to see it happen Thank you man You don't watch it every day? Money Moses You know Money Moses is my boy man We had him calling us And we started staying in contact But really after all said and done A lot of people be hearing These other guys yapping And running their mouths And trying to assassinate you can't Fascinate the only thing a fake person Is waiting on this is for somebody A real nigga to expose them That's where the fake niggas Man we're going to end it with that man Check it man it's been another great segment Of boss talk 101 where the boss is down