 you can create tournaments, play tournaments in both mobile and desktop at the same time. There's over 15 games that can be played. It's made by gamers for gamers and it's very user-friendly. So we always have the possibility to create our own tournaments, being a user, invite our friends to play such as casual game or anything. And then we also have the opportunity to play games which are got prize money in it, more competitive, playing against pro teams. We've got all the people inside and that's on the tournament side. But what we introduced into this platform is one in all, we call it, a platform where you can have all the tournament side but you can have content written and video content in the same platform. You have the streams live during the tournaments when they are being played. You've got a leaderboard that's cross-related game leaderboard. So it doesn't matter which game you play, you qualify into the leaderboard and if you play multiple games you can go up the leaderboard even better. So here's the website is screen shared right here with your colleague. Hi, Felipe. Hey, what's up? I'm Felipe. So please introduce yourself. What do you do? Yeah, I'm in charge of the website in general and just tournament creation and tournament management and all that sort of stuff. So the website, is it launched? Is it ready? Yes, it's been launched for like a week now and you can see it right here. So how complicated is it for people to set up and is this something that should be easy, quick? How do you do it? It's really easy. It's just a standard sign-in and then it's two clicks to start a tournament. It's honestly really easy. If you can see here you can go to esports and literally right here create a tournament and you're already in and you can start to choose your game. Could you guide us through to how to create a tournament to show people how easy it is? Okay, let's see. I'm just going to call it sharp access pro tournament and we'll say it's today. For example, it starts today. It's ends today. Let's say, I don't know, 8 p.m. my time. This time right here is always on your own time and let's say it's answered. That's another feature that we've got into the platform is that every one has their own time on the platform. So you never know. Let's say I make it a rocket league tournament and let's say it's a 1v1 tournament on PC. You can play 1v1. It changes according to the game you're playing but you can play 1v1, teams, squads, whatever your game allows. You can play on PC, PS4, PS5. This always depends on the game. You can choose the format here. You can do whatever you want, a round robin group style, a single elimination. Let's say I want to make a round robin tournament with, I don't know, 16 participants and with four groups of four when we're one person out of each group advances, one game per group. So you play everyone once. Let's say it's a best of one and then you select the next stage after the group stage. You can say a single elimination and you can even put it so that, I don't know, the finals instead of a best of one, you can make it a, I don't know, whatever you want, a best of five, for example. That's another big feature of the platform is that it allows you to customize your tournaments as you see fit. So you can choose what kind of games you want to play but you can also choose how do you want to play them. For instance, you can, as Philippe just showed you, there's a lot of things you can do in the same tournament and there's different ways to play them and that's the tournament organizer that chooses what's best for the target audience we are targeting. Which can be anyone. Anyone can be the tournament organizer as long as you have people. You can do whatever you want. So once you've done this and you've clicked next. Yes, you choose your banner if you have one. If not, we provide one. You put the description for the tournament. This is what people will see in the information tab. So for example, you put sharp access, super awesome tournament. Then you put the rules, I don't know, no noobs and you, you can put a price pool, for example. You can do whatever like you put, I don't know, you can do 10 euros. You can do, I don't know, 10 euros for the first, five euros for the second. You can choose whatever you want. If you have any sponsors and you know, you can put them here and all the other information. Yeah, because that's something we've added too, because it's really important that there are sponsors that can actually participate into the prices that you give into the different tournaments because we are working a lot with influencers. We actually have a team that's dedicated to that. We do have a set of people on board too that can explain a little bit more what we are doing on the influencer reach and adding sponsors to their tournaments. It's crucial for success. Because you want to have like prices and somebody has to pay for them, right? Is that how it works? Like a sponsor? Or if you're a part, let's say you're a part of an eSports team and you want your eSports team to be represented, if I don't know, they're paying for the price pool or whatever, or marketing or whatever it is. Is there a way that everybody who participates in the tournament can pay a little fee that goes to the price? Yeah, that's a feature that we are launching in like 15 days for the 15th of February. That feature will be available and there's another feature that the tournament organizer can put a pool, a price pool. Let's say he puts a hundred dollars, a hundred euros into the pool and then people pay a participation fee to join the tournament and that's going to be live in like a week's time. How does it go with the commissions and all this stuff? Is the whole pool going to the winner or is it like who's taking commissions like the tournament organizer or is it the platform Formation GG or both? It's the platform that takes a very small commission for all the organization and then the rest goes straight to the winner. Depending on how do you organize it, maybe it's just for the first place or first, second and third. That's something you can choose. Just a small commission? Yeah. You talk about how much it is or? It's going to be between around five percent. Five percent. So this is actually, I mean, I'm not so much into the, I'm not a professional eSports gamer. I mean, I play Super Mario and stuff like that once in a while. But what I wonder is, this is very special that people, what you're offering here is something that's special in the market that people otherwise have to do tournaments through big tech companies or? Well, I've been on eSports and a gaming fan for all my life. And one of the things that most gamers struggle is to find tournaments which are credible that do have price money and that they are all in one single place. So that's the problem we are tackling and we are trying to solve. The first thing is about credibility. So our price, the prices we offer are going to be automatically distributed to the winner. So that's the first thing on the price-paying side. And in order to assure that the price won't be just fake, so the one that organizes the tournament needs to pay upfront the price money to formation. And then it's formation that delivers the price. That way we avoid people getting scammed because there are a lot of places like this that scam people. They say, hey, come in, pay 5, 10, 50 fee to join this tournament. You can win X amount of money and that money never exists. So you get scammed and never receive that price even if you win. So by us, formation GG, we are actually in a society in France, by all the law of France. We take that money from the tournament organizer and then it's us ourselves that distribute that price to the winner. So as I understand you, this is worldwide or global or people put in the account information or is it PayPal or where does the money, how is it going to work? Well, we are using PayPal right now. We are adding some cryptocurrency in the near future and we are working out to add other types of payments. But for now PayPal is almost worldwide. So anyone can create a PayPal account. It's quite easy and that's what we are using right now. When it comes to the target audience we are going out for, we have big influence in Europe, Africa and Latin America right now. Those are the markets we are focusing to begin with and where we are getting traction very quick and people are loving what we do. We do have a reach worldwide. That means we, on our platform you can use it anywhere in the world. That's what makes it very powerful. So maybe we can introduce your colleague, hey Seraphine. So please can you introduce yourself? Oh, sorry, you're on mute. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Thank you. Yeah, I'm Seraphine and I work here for formation. I work on the marketing side and social media. That's all on my side on the introducing. Is it the map of the world, the market that we're targeting behind you? Yeah, so I'm targeting this side at the moment. Europe? Yeah, Africa as well, Middle East and Latin America. What I've been doing basically was trying to reach out influencers, obviously gaming related influencers. So what I've been doing was trying to get into Twitch. If you ever, if you go into Twitch, you'll see like probably 80% of the streams. They talk about tournaments and prices and stuff. But when you actually go into the stream, you will just see a guy that's streaming with an Excel trying to build up his tournament and trying to manage it. So then I think that our platform is very simple to use. It's very easy to use. So that's why when I came to offer the platform to these people, to these streamers, influencers or gamers, I don't know what's the name for them. They just go straight into our platform and say like, yes, I'm going to use it. This is incredible. That's it basically. It's not how I think that it was going to be. I thought that it was going to be like, oh, they're going to ask me for money for this or for that. But once I get them into a meeting, into a Zoom or Discord meeting and I show them how the platform work, they are just fascinated. So really, this is something that's been in demand. Sorry, what was that? This is something that's been in demand and that people are looking for this. They've been looking for this solution. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And at the beginning, when I introduced before introducing the platform and I talked about a tournament platform, they all tell me like, oh, yeah, I know some of them. They're tricky. They're difficult to use. People don't really understand how to register, how to join a tournament. But actually, most of the time when I showed them the platform, our actual platform formation, all the meeting goes well. Nice. So maybe I can put up, you have some slides, I think, where you're showing a little bit like the market. Like this past year, let's not use the strange word, but there's like strange thing happening in the world. A lot of people are gaming, right? So how has been growing the gaming market? It's already, it was crazy before and now it's even more. Exactly. Yeah. If you see the progression in eSports for the last couple years, it's been huge. And the market cap is so big, it's a place for everyone. And in the future, what the calculations are that it's growing at its enormous rates. Well, here's one of the things that we've noticed in the targets we are going to. There's almost one billion games. That's, that's more than a Netflix subscriber. So if you can just get, let's say, one percent of all those people on your platform, you turn into a winner. Even 0.01% sounds like a lot. Exactly. Yeah. It's really a lot of people that are gaming. And the statistics tell you that it's not going down at all. Quite the opposite. They expect at least a 25% increase in 2021. Which is something that you can, I don't think there's any other market that's growing that big. So right here, total eSports viewership. There's also a lot of people watching these games, but when they watch is like on YouTube gaming or on Twitch or... Well, that's something that we also took into the consideration with the platform is that there's actually more people watching the games and playing and gamers than actually playing. So one of the things we want to assure with this platform is that you can use our platform to watch those games, to watch the tournaments, to interact because there's a discussion board during the tournament. And that's what we are looking for. People that use our platform either to play, but also to watch. I think just like a quick idea, something that just came to my mind looking at this. There's Twitch and YouTube gaming, right? And they have these super chats and these things people can pay while they watch. So maybe you have a channel with all the tournaments or something like that. And then when people donate, it goes to the winner. Yeah. I mean, everything can be done, right? It's just a matter of rolling our sleeves and putting the working. That's what we love in here to make this user-friendly and always have in mind what the users and the gamers are meeting and are expecting. That's being ourselves gamers helps a lot into putting this in place. And that's always what we have in mind. What can we do to get better? What can we do to help out the ecosystem that already exists, but put ourselves and the things up to make it look better? Because right now, through our platform, we are not inventing anything strange for the streaming and for watching the tournament. We're just using Twitch and YouTube into our own platform to have it all in the same place. So yeah, there's always a way of working together. So right here, I see it's talking about mobile and you talk a lot about mobile, right? So, but when Felipe, when you were showing before the screen share, it was PC, PS4, PS5, but how do you envision doing this optimized for mobile? Does that mean like an app? You get into the app and you do a bunch of clicks and then you go back to the game or? I believe the other is currently we're working on an app that's going to launch soon. Yeah, I can probably talk more on that. Yeah, we do have an app that's going to be long, really soon. And that will tackle the mobile gaming segment, which is growing bigger and bigger every single time. But we do have the every single mobile game on our platform right now already. So through this, the platform, through the site, you can go and create tournaments for mobile. The thing is that Felipe showed you a tournament and a type of game that it's not being played on mobile games right now. That's why you didn't have the option. But if you go to Free Fire Mobile, for instance, you will have the option to play it on mobile if you create that tournament. How is it going to help when the app is there? Well, it's going to be helping in two main areas. The first is that we've seen and we've experienced a change lately from desktop to mobile in gaming. So people right now get their phone, tap in eGaming's platform, and they want to download that. And we are very, very good into the ASO and qualifying and getting keywords ranked up. So we're very confident that our app will show up there very good and very quick. So they can just download their app into their phone, say, hey, I would like to join a tournament into this game or that game, join and play and do everything from your phone. That's what's going to fix the app. They won't need to go into your computer, into the desktop or anything. You can do everything from your phone. Don't just follow, lead with formation. What are you trying to say here? Well, that's the message we are trying to show people that most gamers struggle to triumph and to be a part of the gaming world. If you see the stats, I think it's, I mean, the people that actually get into pro and everything is very, very low. And what we are trying to do with formation is give everyone an opportunity to become better self, be competitive, have a chance to win money because there's price money on the platform and compete. That's what we are trying to give and give everyone the same chance. Actually, it's a little bit what I'm thinking when I see the World Cup football, just a very short, there is like, of course, South America has the tournament that makes sure that what's called all the teams are strong. But then in North America, like the US is only playing with the Caribbean every four years, right? And they always qualify and they don't really get the challenge. And in Europe, there's a lot of competition. So if everybody can compete, it's a better chance to become better and maybe become one of the champions also. But if you don't compete in the right way. Yeah. So I mean, that's so true. And I'm happy that you bring that in because, for instance, me myself, I'm a professional rugby player, Seraphine's too. Philip has been a rugby player for all his life. So we know the struggles and the fight and the effort that you need to put into any sport. And we find the relation to be exactly the same when it comes to eSports. The gamers actually train 12 hours a day. They're in front of their computer on their mobile or anything, getting better, getting the competition they need. And as you said, the only way to become better and improve is to put work into it and put the effort that you need into what you're doing, be passionate about that. And we understand it all. I mean, as rugby players, we know how to take a hit and how to get back and keep pushing forward, keep pushing forward. And that's the spirit we want to share with formation. And so how far are you into it? You like a startup? Maybe you can talk into where you are. You are like in France, right? Yeah, we are in France. There's been already a fundraise. This is growing big, I would say, and pretty quick. On the business side, there is, I mean, if you see the work on the platform, it's very, very professional. There's a whole developing main team behind it. We do have 25, 30 people inside the house that work, I would say, non-stop into it. We have a dedicated content team that works on the articles that are getting published on the videos that are getting published on the platform. That's about five or six people that are writing every day only for formation. We do have a designer in the house. We do have a video director. We have a social media team consisting of a couple of people. We have people working for us, which are not here, but are working for us remotely. I would say thanks to COVID, that's even more possible than before, because people are already used to working at a distance remotely. So that makes life a bit easier. We try also to have people based in different time zones, because we always provide support to our influencers when they are hosting a tournament. In fact, I would like us to share the we had a big tournament going on last Monday. Well, Monday in Latin America, but it was actually Tuesday morning in here in France, and there were 200 people playing at the same time. That's quite big. So how are you going to be able to share that? We can screen share it. I can screen share it. Yeah, that would be great. So loading right here. If you go to our completed tournaments, it was this one. Yeah, we created two tournaments. We made one tournament to qualify into the finals, and we made the finals with a prize money, so people could actually earn real money. It was sponsored by Formation. Here, you can see all the participants, all eSports teams. So each team is like how many people? Four people, third team. Yeah, and they are all like eSports teams, and they play professionally. So how many teams are there? 48, I'm pretty sure. I think around 52 applied, and we had to cut some short, unfortunately, because it was too big. Yeah, and also there's the possibility to give the teams substitutes, which is also something that's very interesting, because sometimes they want to make a change for the next game to improve or to get better, or maybe someone needs to do something else, and they can't play as much as the rest. So you can actually give the possibility to the teams to add like an extra player just in case. So that's why we had around 200 people. When they sign up and join and everything, is there like an easy way for them to just click a little bit like join with Google or Facebook or something like that? Or how do you think is the best way to do? Well, social logins are going to be live in two weeks time, if I'm not wrong. But if you could you log out, Philippian, just show them how easy it is to register. Because it's actually, we don't ask you for almost anything. Let me erase this. Go to register now. Oh, yeah. Here you go. Let's just ask you for your name, your email and your date of birth, because I think you, there is a required age of birth, right? Yeah, there is. Yeah, let's put my own name here. Is it like the regulation that says that people have to be a certain age? Yeah, Shabak, since there's price money in it, you need to be of a certain age to be able to participate. Does that change in each country or is like the same everywhere, the whole world? You have to be what, I don't know? I think there's 13, it's DH limit, I think. But it depends on which country you are. We do stand by French Lotto, since we are in France. But yeah, we've got a whole team working on that full time to support that matter, to avoid any legal problems. So we have all that in mind. Here you can see it, like yeah, now you put a password and you're done pretty much. It takes like, what was that, a minute at most? Yeah, it's pretty easy. And then it's just there, just every time you come back, you already logged in, you can do all your things, modify whatever you need. Yeah, you can do some extra profile too. There's stuff to change. So yeah, it's... What do you think about the challenge that people might have? I don't know if it is, but to figure out how they can find a team to join and how to find a team that's in their level, or if they don't know the other guys, but they might join them. If you don't have a team, there is a lot of one versus one or single tournaments too. If you only have one person, you can do duos. So there is a lot of options. You know, just in games themselves, because of what you said, people don't... Not everyone has a team, so there is a lot of 1v1s or whatever. Can you think about other things to do in that area, maybe to help people join the right team somehow and like automatically generate some teams? Oh, sorry mate. We plan to make a Discord channel where people can join and look for their teams. I know it's very common, this, because there were people asking to the influencers that were organizing the tournaments. I don't have a team, but how can I do it? So I saw that a lot of them have Discord channels and you just go into Discord right, do someone want to play with me tonight, the tournament or whatever. And that's a very easy way to join the team. But when you're thinking about rugby players, for example, or football or I'm thinking tennis and badminton and stuff, it'd be nice if there was some way for people to find out what level they are at and kind of like recommendation, how they can progress to the team that you might change team or they might buy you, maybe you're going to buy some players or something. That is actually something we are working on. We are working on a feature that would allow you to communicate with people and because what we are trying to build here is a gaming community, right? We're not just trying to keep people the possibility to join a tournament and that's it. We want to build a community that people keep coming back to our platform and do everything related to gaming on our side. So what we are trying to build up is a way to add friends. There's already a chat in place so you can chat to any other character or other user without any problems. We are working on a matchmaking feature which is quite unique that will allow you, as you said, in the case that you don't have a team and you're looking for one to, let's say, as if it was looking for a job, you put yourself into a bucket of people looking for a team on this specific game and then there's some moderator that can help people out and depending on each, each one's level and then you can actually get into a team and compete and improve. There's also a very interesting feature that we are adding quite soon that's the possibility to, through your profile, create your team and invite the users that you want to your team and that means that as soon as you see a tournament that you want to participate you join the tournament as a team and that will invite all of the team users into that tournament automatically. Because as I understand your system you have kind of like ratings, like people are automatically, it's not like a big part of making a system that will work is that everybody has kind of like a rating and then you can figure out who's the best and then, you know, how do you do that? We do have a leaderboard and that is also, each game on their own does have like a rating system which is not on our platform but we do have the leaderboard on our platform which obviously if you're playing against someone that has a, is the first one on the platform and has won 27 tournaments before, you know, you're against a tough match. Is there a connection from the game to your website? Can you pull this data out of the games or? We are working on APIs. There is not much done from the game's side yet so we are developing all the APIs ourselves to get that data into our platform, especially the results and everything. So to become as automated as possible it's not ready yet because it takes time because it needs to be done game by game. How does that work? Do the games have some kind of API or something or you have to grab it from what? Mostly they don't. That's the issue we are struggling with because they don't have their own APIs so we are developing the APIs ourselves and they will connect and grab all the data and put it automatically into our platform once grabbing from the screen. Yeah. So it's like a character recognition and stuff, kind of stuff. Yeah. Artificial intelligence to decide who won by how much, who is the runner up. That's all the information we want to put in a click of an eye. That's done. So Seraphine behind you you have this map and the plan is pretty big. As far as I understand there can be some issues with the lag time sometimes if Europeans play with us Latin Americans or not really. Is it like people play globally or they prefer to play in a region because it's less lag? Well that actually depends on the game. I'm pretty sure there are a few games that have different servers. For instance Fortnite you have America, you have Europe and you can play across but it's not the best actually. That's why mostly each influencer when they organize a tournament they try to stick to their area. So is there a way that you might do that automatically because you know where people are a little bit like they do they click and say that they shared their location with your website? When you create a tournament Shabax the tournament gives you the region it's being played at. So I mean if you want to join even if it's not your region you can always do that but then it's up to you to face the latency and the lag problems. But what we are trying to do on our side we are giving the platform a lot of activity so there's always things to join all around the world. On the markets we are specializing. There's always tournaments for a lot of different games every day so you can join and play even if it's just for a casual tournament because that's we we figure out that there's a lot of people that want to just play for fun. So we are providing that too and not just focusing on prize tournaments, paid tournaments as some other people do. So it's such a huge market and as I understand so you're at the working with the unicorn incubator right to get this big right? You can see right there right? And so you're trying to position yourself in a big way this year right? Is it happening quick? Yeah right now we do have a lot going on. We are the biggest rural area incubator accelerator. We are organizing the startup supercap in October 1, 2, 3. It's probably going to be the first event that people will be able to attend after COVID after all these problems we've been facing as everyone and we expect to have over 800 investors, funds, venture capitalists. We have between 100 and 150 startups that are going to be presenting. One of them of course will be formation and as you said unicorn is the umbrella that has all the startups under him and we work a lot on the marketing side on the user acquisition. That's where we really thrive and we have a lot of things going on, a lot of new projects coming aboard. We have seven startups right now but we expect to have 25 by the end of the year. We are getting a very big place because of course location and rent is not easy in a small town like ours because there's roughly 9k people living in Sala. It's a beautiful little town right? Yeah it's beautiful and the fiber is getting here apparently by the end of March so it's quite quick. One of the interesting things about Sala is that we are just below 10k people during the year but we've received over 2 million tourists during the summer and during yeah especially during the summer. It's one of the biggest tourist attractions in France right? Exactly we are ranked number seventh in France. We are under the region that has the most castles by square by square meter. Is your headquarters in the castle? Not yet probably soon. Cool all right so it's worth being here. We all I mean we expect you to come over but for the startup supercup right? Yeah looking forward to the post whatever it's called era. Yeah post era yeah. We are having a media site at the event a specialized media place. We people from all over to come here. We've got BBC news, CNN that confirmed the assistance already. We've got I mean it's going very big very quick. What's your role with the incubator? So you lead this startup the Formation GG and you also do all this other stuff? Yeah I'm mainly under Unicorn so I work with a lot of the startups I would say all of them mostly on the managing side and on the team leading so my specialty is to create a team that has the ability to work together and to excel and manage those teams. So what we like to do is we create a team for each of the startups and that's the way we work because we think that this kind of projects that are so big are not going to be done by one single person and the only way to tackle them and is by means of a good team with good experience, good atmosphere that's our spirit you know and that's where I focus the most getting teams to work together getting teams to not think about themselves but think what are we going to achieve as a team and that's mean that's my legacy from rugby probably that's what I've always had in mind when I was a rugby player a captain for a very long time. If there's one week's sport on a team that's what we're where we are going to fail unless the whole team backs it up and that's what we try to put into place when we work in here. So when I understand when I hear what you're saying about the Formation GG what sounds great is that potentially it's a very fair system for the gamers it's a small commission and also maybe it could scale with success right maybe if you can if you can get income to keep hiring and expanding and making sure all the features are there and maybe this can be done quickly is that is that your goal can you can you get everything to be a huge within a year or yeah I would say even less than a year because well we do have the tendency to get to get people shocked by the speed and how we want things to develop right now we that's how we work you know and when we tell people we need this for tomorrow and they say hey but that's not how you do things well that's how we do things we don't like to to wait for bureaucracy and paperwork and whatnot we just want to get things done right and we we work our asses off and sorry for the word but that's how I feel it I think it's allowed on YouTube to say that word okay luckily if not we'll get blocked yeah no I mean that's we work a lot to push forward and push forward and think outside the box and keep going keep going because as I said we do have that spirit rugby spirit behind that that competitive sport spirit behind us that drives us and pushes us forward that's how we work that's what we want to show and as you said this formation gg has been live for what seven seven days probably seven to ten days and we're making huge progress and we expect that in the next three months a lot of things will go on uh so you from Argentina right true correct Philippe you are over there in Buenos Aires right I am the only one currently in Argentina yeah in this chat right yes but they all defected but I guess there's uh uh some talent in the engineering behind this like uh uh you you have uh you can get all the features that you want whatever you think of you you'll get it done yeah yeah that's not an issue to be honest I mean if you've seen what we've done already and all the things that are in the near future coming up I don't think there's an engineering problem or a delay coming up we do have a specialized team that it's around 10 people on the developing side which is huge and working just for that so what we intend to do because one of our other slogan is uh for gamers by gamers and that's what we have in mind we have the user always up front you know what I mean uh we always want the user to have a good experience to come back uh to the platform and we do listen to their concerns and what they want to improve and we work together with them uh the last couple of influence the last tournament we had 200 people live and we worked hand by hand Felipe and me and Seraphine the three of us were live with him during four hours helping him out listening to every single request or every single problem and keep coming the feedback comes back in and then we keep working and keep improving keep adding things to the platform this is not static you know this is constant improvement that's the way we work and you have it hosted on a nice cloud platform that that makes sure everything is smooth and fast and uh I guess maybe some gamers are also great engineers right is that something to do some of the the 10 engineers you're talking about also gamers yeah exactly uh so they know what they're trying to solve yeah yeah they do have that uh like gamer concerns always in mind they can that way they can also you know come up with issues that would come up like even before they're introduced right because if if you have people that have no idea what the subject they're working on they're gonna present you a product and then it's gonna have problems and then you have to solve them but this way you can you know figure out oh this this thing is gonna come up because I know how this works and I know it's it's all so that the gaming market like we were looking at those slides is like billion it's huge it's bigger than Hollywood it's bigger than all the movies and stuff right it's so huge how about these uh these gaming companies they are trying to or they want to control things right but they there's no way that they can block this kind of like uh people making their own tournaments like because the games uh people as long as they do you know what I'm trying to trying to ask uh not really to be honest what you're saying is I don't think anyone would would ever try to block something like this because it's basically free advertising right for the game like if you're the owner of a game you want people to be doing tournaments you want people to be playing and having fun and I'm playing for prizes and uh so it would be like counter productive to stop someone from having fun and because if you see if you check all the games out there they don't have these features they'd always rely on some external factor or external platform like ourselves to do this kind of things so if you let's say take League of Legends for instance one of the games we have on our platform you have rankings through the through the game you have uh different levels to achieve but there's no way that you're on the game you can create tournaments and that's where we come in we don't want people to go away from the games it's totally the opposite we use the games with our platform and we put them together and there's the easy way right now that people can write the result at the end just click click click uh but maybe even easier with a little phone right the little mobile app and then maybe there will be a like uh doesn't make sense to take a picture of the screen or not that would require a screenshot so there's no foul play going on no cheating allowed this could be with the phone maybe yeah this could be like directly in the app I guess for sure that's gonna be one of the features of the app just take your screenshot and it goes automatically into the results nice and then check your bank account paper for now if you win if you win yeah you need to win not like you surfin if you if you set this up so smooth and great and everything this could be a huge right it could be uh I don't know how many people are gonna make a living because it's a small percentage right now but it could be growing it it it should grow and not just have uh very very very few making a living yeah for sure especially this time and also there's it's not just about making a living but a lot of the gamers probably most of them play just for fun but they want to get competitive enough and to be respected I would say somehow and if you need to climb up the leaderboard in our place and say hey I've got these prices I've got I want here I want there even if there's no money behind that the respect you get and the authority I mean that's worth it for a gamer usually yeah you might just win a beer or something but actually it's it's that's that's a good start that's a great the limit is this guy and then with all the sponsors that might get in this could be huge for sure all right what do you what do you think about it I think it's I think it's great I think I actually I wish this was also for sports because what if you could organize tournaments in rugby and football and badminton and like okay that's just I'm giving that's that's for another that's for the future what that's great to start up we'll have it in under unicorn that's cool let's talk about that after because I just think that we should make a competitor to FIFA and UEFA and I'm joking okay that's yeah that's that's another good try good try all right that's great so thanks a lot for talking about this and we can do more videos in the future with all the other stuff you're working with right for sure I mean we're glad to be on your channel thanks a lot for this opportunity we had a great time talking to you I hope people find it interesting what we are trying to give them to show them and to explain we always open to any issues or any questions they have on our social media for instance Seraphine can give you the links probably but FormAge and GG almost everywhere so anything that comes up don't hesitate to contact us we are here to help everyone out and to create this community together maybe you want to put your contact information under the video unless the video gets a million views you might want to not get too much spam I'm joking but maybe you can have we can put your website social media email people can contact you and try to figure out yeah yeah for sure thanks for the opportunity Seraphine cool all right thanks a lot see you thank you thank you