 Mae'r rhan amser yn ffwrdd y bydd ar gyfer. Mae'r g或dd, ond mae'r cyffredig yn fwyaf. Mae'n rhan o'r ysgrifennu yn y ffwrdd yn y gweithio. Mae'n rhan o'r ffwrdd yn ymddangos o'r ysgrifennu, maen nhw'n gwybod ychydig yn brydydd, maen nhw'n ddwyllgynnu'n gweithio'r llif, o'r disgwntennu yn siwt, o'r ysgrifennu, o'r ysgrifennu, a bod yוסigfyr o Rydym yn ysbrydgaf. Mae'r rhan eisiau o'n dangos y tro. Mae'r hyn, mae eisiau pethau. Mae hynny'n gweithio ar gyflosol. Rwy'n meddwl cyfan. Mae'n fawr i thatlwch i'r llei bod yn ymgrifanol. Mae'r fawr ar y cyflosol yn gyflosol, ac mae'n gweithio ar yr hynny yn digon. yw i'w ddullwyl â'r ddeudydd a chymdeithasol mae'n maesai cymdeithasol a'r ddissifon o'r sefyllfa, neu mae'r ddisgrifasio'l gwneud hyn. Mae'n meddwl i'r pari ddeutel. Mae addyeth yna ar y pari ddeutel. Fy wnaeth eu bwrdd yng ngyraedd i'ch meddwl i'r Pari Ddeudel ac mae'n meddwl a'i ddau i rhai yn y lleidio gyda'r yng Nghymru Scottish referendum, I think, which, again, was an almost shock to many people that 45% of Scottish people voted for independence, and they saw that not as just a vote for independence, but against austerity, against the establishment, against the Tory government, and therefore it took on a very kind of left-wing rebellious tone in Scotland. But in the rest of the country, in England and Wales, everybody's scratching their head, you know, where was this kind of mood going to be expressed in Britain in the rest of the country? And obviously, perhaps accidentally, but Jeremy Corbyn getting onto the ballot paper by some clumsy mistake on behalf of some individuals who didn't understand the repercussions of what they were doing, they thought that this was just business as usual, and put Jeremy Corbyn on the ballot paper for a bit of a joke, make things look a bit democratic anyway, so what's the problem? And yet, very rapidly, Corbyn, rather than a sideline candidate, became the focal point of this uprising, if you like, not into the later party, although that was affected by people outside of the Labour Party who were, again, given a vote, the feeling being by Ed Miliband and others in the leadership of the Labour Party at that time, that, well, you know, obviously people outside of the Labour Party must be more moderate than people inside the Labour Party. Therefore, if we give them a vote, then the Labour Party will be in safe hands, no problem at all. Only a snag was that it was a complete miscalculation. They believed their own bricklay propaganda, and socialism was, and left them ideas, were unpopular, and therefore, you know, could never garner any support, really. Because that was what the, people were waiting for something, something that was going to be different. They were fed up of years and years of blairism, new labour, the status quo, and nothing was changing. In fact, the rich were getting richer, the poor were getting poorer, and almost polarization in society, and it reflected itself then in the victory of Corbyn last year, when he got 60% of the vote, an enormous, even he was surprised by the support that he had gained. And the other candidates were completely sidelined and shocked, and they were the ones who represented the establishment. And Corbyn, and his ideas, and his views, and his outlook, represented an anti-establishment candidate, anti-austerity candidate, and that's what made him so attractive for all these people who then came into the Labour Party, and now it grew from 200,000 to what, over 500,000 people I knew who said wouldn't touch the Labour Party with a barge poll, decided they would join the Labour Party in order to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. And this of course stirred the whole thing up. Of course, we know that the right wing in the Labour Party, which had been cultivated and developed for a long time, and had a bastion in the ranks of the parliamentary Labour Party, did not accept Jeremy Corbyn, didn't accept his ideas, didn't accept the result. In fact, many of them said that from day one they would unseat him, they would be a coup, and they would make his life misery, basically, in order to try and discredit him and get him out. They were hoping that they would be defeated in the local elections, in Scotland, everywhere, anywhere, doesn't matter, the mayor elections, if there's a defeat good, we could blame Jeremy Corbyn, and then thereby hopefully discredit him in the eyes of the membership of the party, of course that didn't take place, because the membership of the Labour Party, which had changed a lot, had no illusions in what was being offered by the Blairites in the Labour Party, and the majority of the Parliament be Labour Party. And they could see every attempt to undermine Jeremy Corbyn was an attempt to go back to new Labour, basically, and therefore there was enormous resistance, an organisation called Momentum, was established to try and capture and organise those who had joined the party, but had not participated in the party, a lot of young people and so on, and of course the idea was to try and garner this support, hold the support, organise this support in order to give support to Corbyn, of course, and many of these individuals didn't come into the Labour Party or Labour Party meetings, mainly because it wasn't a very friendly atmosphere in the party, really in a local level in many areas, and therefore there wasn't this kind of participation that they'd hoped for, but nevertheless they were organised, or beginning to organise through Momentum, then we had the first battle, one of the main battles, anyway over the vote for Syria, whether we should have Britain to go to bombsiri and engage in that way, and 66 members of the Parliamentary Labour Party voted with the Conservatives, they had more in common with the Conservatives, in their outlook, in their policies, in the way they dressed, in the way they talked and everything else, and there was nothing much between them in that regard, and therefore it's not surprising, but it was an illustration of how the Parliamentary Labour Party was completely divorced from the rank and file, and the change rank and file in the party itself, of course the Labour Party has been around a long time, you know, over 100 years, it was created at the turn of the last century, 1900, by the trade unions, because the Tory Party and the Liberal Party that existed were like twiddly-de twiddly-done, they were heading pale at the same coin, they represented big business, the landlord's interests, they represented the status quo, and it was an attempt by a Tory government in order to shattle the trade unions in 1900, in a dispute in south Wales, which resulted in a reaction in the trade unions that they needed to have some kind of parliamentary voice, and they decided to form the Labour Party together with other socialist groups, even Marxists, but disabated in the formation of the Labour Party, and it began to take, it began to take, I'm going to say, make an impact amongst working people, particularly after the First World War, and in 1918 the Labour Party adopted, for the first time, a socialist constitution, and also changed its constitution to allow individual members of the party to join, in the past it was affiliated organisations, so individuals could join and they changed the constitution to adopt socialism, the famous clause 4, as it was called, clause 4, part 4, which is printed on everybody's Labour Party card, which said that they know to secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry based upon the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and based on the control of the industry by the people who run it. In other words, capitalism had become inadequate and was the source of the problems for working people with unemployment, poverty, homelessness, all those things, which were prevalent in the working class, with a result of capitalism itself and the drive for profitability as opposed to people's needs, and of course it was under the impact above all of the Russian Revolution, which shook the world, that the British workers decided to put socialism as the objective of the Labour Party. Of course, for many in the Labour Party were joined in the leadership, they weren't too happy about that, and the big business in Britain, which relied on the Tory Party and then the Liberal Party, but the Liberal Party was disintegrating, tried first of all to actually destroy the Labour Party, they tried to stop trade unions financing the Labour Party, they tried to strangle it, but they found that they couldn't get round that, that that wasn't possible. So what they tried to do then is to, as they did earlier, trying to capture it, trying to influence it, trying to try to create a lead, put leaders in, people in, would support big business and capitalism. In other words, they would subvert the Labour Party, and that's what they did for a long, long period of time, because this clause of socialism, clause 4, was like the unfortunate uncle in the colony, an embarrassment to many of the leaders of the Labour Party, like Ramsey MacDonald for instance, who in 1931, because of the crisis that was there, decided to split the Labour Party, join up with the Liberals and the Tories and form a national government, was the first big split in the Labour Party, but that pushed the Labour Party also to the left, they were very, very radical in the 1930s, and that gave rise to the most radical Labour government in 1945, which nationalised the number of industries, although unfortunately at that time these industries were kind of bankrupt industries, you know, they were making money, the railways was bankrupt, the coal industry was bankrupt, steel and other industries they took over, and they pushed in a lot of tax-based money to modernise them, and of course they were privatised, so that's the way it was working. But clearly the idea of socialism was just you could talk about on May Day, if you like, and the holidays and things that might, but it wasn't a real objective of the Labour leadership or Labour government, and for a time that kind of work after the 1930s, which was a bad period for capitalism, mass unemployment, poverty, war, fascism, you name it, after the war there was a boom, in fact it was more of a boom, it was an upswing, which allowed capitalism to give certain reforms, which it wasn't able to do in the 1930s, so it allowed us to have council housing, allowed us to have a national health service, living standards increased, working class people had a rise in their living standards, you had carpets on the floor, wallpaper on the wall, fridge, washing machines, all these things which were denied working people for a long time became accessible, and it looked then that capitalism was working, it looked as if well, fair enough, and the leaders always say well we'll do it bit by bit, in fact there was a speech by Neil Kinac, Lord Kinac, about two weeks ago in the parliamentary Labour party, and he made this thundering speech and it was recorded and leaked, so I managed to listen to it, and he was talking about 1918, when the Labour party had decided to become a party that was committed to the parliamentary road to socialism, that he was against syndicalism, and it agreed to work through parliament, and that is why Jeremy Corbyn needed to have the support of parliamentary representatives, that's why he couldn't be the leadership of the leader of the Labour party, that was his argument of course, but these individuals nevertheless, they always forget their history, and they forget the history of socialism, particularly with Neil Kinac, I mean I know Neil Kinac for years, before he was an MP, before he became the leader of the Labour party, and he was very left-wing, oh yes, he'd give a left-wing speech, oh, up the workers and all the rest of it, but as soon as he got up under the leadership, all that was thrown by the wayside and he adapted to the system itself, capitulated, you know, and he got to be aware of those people who would talk a bit left, but in reality in practice they don't do it, I think this was his name, Owen Smith is a bit in that kind of mould at the moment I think, that he's looking to talk a little bit left, but of course he's going to vote for Trident tonight, and you can see how he's just been a bit verbally radical in order to get elected in reality, we've seen it all before, at least the reason why people supported Corbyn is because he's been consistent over the last 30 years, he hasn't just changed his tune in order to get elected, he's always sung the same tune, and that's why he's got that support, but the right-wing in the Labour Party who backcapitalism, and anyway, big business backs them, because that's where they get support from in the newspapers, the media and all the rest of it, they want to get rid of Corbyn because he poses a danger not just to the Labour Party, but the whole of Britain, why? Because he threatens that he doesn't want the status quo, he represents a change, a fundamental change, instead of the old new Labour style and so on, he's opened the doors to a debate about changing society, no austerity, and this is very dangerous for those people on the tops of society, you know, the ruling class in Britain, the establishment in Britain, who have relied on the Labour Party, or at least the right-wing Labour leaders, to produce stability at certain times, now they couldn't rely on the Labour Party, they had lost control, the membership had voted for Corbyn, and they had taken the Labour Party over, apart from the parliamentary win, and of course that's where the clash is now most bitter, and they talk about intimidation in the Labour Party has become apparently quite prevalent, they don't mention the intimidation in the parliamentary Labour Party every Monday night when Corbyn was trying to get his views across and they were howling him down, that was okay because that was their argument, it was okay then, it was their people, but of course when ordinary rank and fall members and young people say enough is enough, we don't want MPs who vote with the Tories, we want more in common with the Tories, we want people who represent ordinary working people, and then they say that's intimidation, you know, because you're threatening me because you're threatening to deselect me, after all I'm a Labour MP they say, and they thought that Labour MP should be an MP for life, I was elected and what the hell's going on here, and that's where the way they see the Labour Party is their own private property, and they see their own position as a position for life as a career, they would have joined the Tory party if they'd further their careers, and in south Wales where I am from the reason why people joined the Labour Party is just because of a career, you know, these are Tories who come into the Labour Party because it sounded good under new Labour in particular in order to further their own interests, and of course under Tony Blair, you know, God rest his soul, he decided to abolish clause 4, in other words will not have been socialism in the constitution anymore, and will change the Labour Party structures so there's no democracy in the Labour Party either, and will parachute in all or to all the different parties our or their candidates, and that's what they did, they took over the Labour Party in a very bureaucratic way with the full support of the media and full support of the ruling class in Britain because they, I mean Tony Blair, as Margaret Thatcher said, you know, he's my heritage, you know, that's the whole part that he's the continuation of faturism and because it's made the Labour Party, and he wanted to go much further, he wanted to break the link with the trade unions and the Labour Party, he wanted to make it a Tory party, mark two, but that failed because the resistance from the trade unions and the rank and fall of the membership, but nevertheless he tried to do it but he failed, but nevertheless they were, they were quite confident that the Labour Party would be in safe hands until this upset, until this Jeremy Corbyn came along and upset the apple guard talking about getting rid of Trident and North Sterity and all the rest of it, more spending on housing, council houses and so on, against zero-hour contracts, all these things, and now we have the position where the right wing took up nine months ago, they talked about getting rid of him, but they couldn't get rid of him because he had such a majority, so they had to buy their time, they had to wait for the moment, the occasion, and this occasion has now come, so they used this, what they said was a lack of initiative and enthusiasm over fighting for Britain to remain within the EU that Corbyn had let down the Labour Party and therefore should be removed, it's quite a joke actually because one of the individuals who moved the vote of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn was, it was my Member of Parliament now, because I moved to London, Margaret Hodge, and Margaret Hodge did a wonderful job in the bargain antagonum of winning people to stay in the EU, 62% voted to get out, so she did a marvelous job of course and hypocritically is attacking Jeremy Corbyn for not pulling his finger out, it's amazing, it doesn't matter, so what, so what, the main thing is to stick the knife into Corbyn and therefore they got what this vote of confidence, 172 Members of Parliament voted no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn 40 in favour, 60 of them resigned from the front bench, they tried might and main to put a massive amount of pressure on Corbyn to resign, stand down, and it's amazing the amount of pressure that was exerted, there's no doubt about that, and give the man his credit, he studies ground and refused to resign, because if he had resigned then that would be in the end of it, because he would have been off the ballot paper, couldn't have gone on the ballot paper under those circumstances because he would have had to get 51 nominations, and therefore the right wing would have won again and they would have gone back to the Blair years, because they wouldn't stay as it now, they would they would tend to pull things back to what it was like before, of course these this attack has provoked the situation, and sometimes you get that, I think it was Karl Marx who said that sometimes the revolution needs the whip of the counter-revolution, and I suppose the attempt to overthrow Corbyn was a bit of a counter, an attempted counter-revolution was provoked then a reaction, and as a consequence what 130,000 people joined the Labour Party in the space of what 20 days, unbelievable, I mean it's only 128,000 in the Tory Party, so you know the fact that 130,000 joined the Labour Party, and they would clearly be supporting Corbyn, there's no doubt about it, some would have been I'm sure some right wingers trying to get get get revenge, but I don't think there'd be that many, and yet so they had this avalanche coming into the Labour Party, then the civil war on the tops of the Labour Party, and of course you've got the bureaucracy in the Labour Party as well, we're selected under the time of Blair, we're also playing a dirty role, including I would say Tom Watson, the deputy leader of the Labour Party, who was manoeuvring behind that on the backs if you like of Jeremy Corbyn in order to get him out, and then they tried to negotiate with the trade union leaders to get a deal, the only thing it was that the trade union leaders were prepared for a deal it looked like, the only thing is they had to keep Corbyn there, and the Parliamentary Labour Party wanted to deal without him, it's thought there was no way they could get any compromise whatsoever, they were stuck and therefore it broke down, and as a consequence they they upped the ante then, let's stop whatever happens if Corbyn gets out of the ballot paper under these circumstances he's going to win, therefore stop him, it doesn't matter how you do it but stop him, that's the instruction coming out from the establishment, and of course the whole thing centred on the National Executive Committee of the Labour Party, and there I was in a meeting and I heard the news that there was going to be a secret ballot and I thought oh my god this is it and you know we're going to lose this one if they go for a secret ballot, they've never done this before but they've agreed to a secret ballot and then sometime later I don't know why it took so long to count 33 votes, I don't know but sometime later we had the result that Corbyn had been allowed on the ballot paper without getting the 51 nominations because he was the leader of the party, he was the sitting leader of the party, and that was a big victory of course in my opinion because everything was an attempt to stop him getting on, but then of course we had the tricks were being pulled left and said that 130,000 had joined the Labour Party, I'm sorry they couldn't get a vote, you know they joined too late, we fall up, you can only vote if you joined before the 12th of January, in fact you couldn't even get an affiliated vote from a trade union unless you joined a union before the 12th of January and this applied also to affiliated organisations and everything, they were putting the barrier up left right and centre to stop people voting hoping that that would prevent something, you know prevent Corbyn being elected, then you had the shenanigans of well who's unopposed Corbyn and it was Angel Eagle who was dancing in about the way she was going to stand, the way she wasn't going to stand, then she said she was going to stand and then you had Owen Smith joining the race which horrified poor old Angela, I saw it on at the Andrew Marr show, she wasn't very happy, but even the right wing can't get their act together most of the time and this is one of the cases and the reason why is because they like their careers, you know principles are nice but careers are much better and therefore why should I stand down when you could stand down, therefore they're going to be somewhat of a rivalry I understand, even this afternoon they had the hustings, I don't know what came of it but I don't think very much, so you got the Angel Eagle and this other guy then Owen Smith who are going to challenge Jeremy Corbyn, the only thing is that today I don't know if you saw on the TV but Jeremy Corbyn had a great speech of why he was a gage trident, why he was a waste of money, why he was a gage, why he was in favour of a nuclear disarmament and so on and of course these others, Angel Eagle plus old Mr Smith, he's going to vote in favour because they're in favour of keeping the bomb and that one put down too well in my opinion in the rank and file of the Labour Party particularly the new members all coming in who say why the hell do you want to you know finance a nuclear bomb or bombs you know for what £200 billion where you could spend them on hospital schools and the benefit of the population is all it's a ridiculous waste of money it's only a pop gun anyway compared to the arsenals of other countries so it's a bit ridiculous from all points of view but of course the right wing are very adamant you know and they will vote with the Tories tonight, I don't know many of them but a good slice of them will vote with the Tories, there is a free vote that's true and there's some a lot of people abstaining I don't know why but never this and then there'll be those who will vote for Trident and that will also be a red mark if you like my opinion against those particular two other candidates who stand against the Corbyn but clearly you know the fact is now on the fire although the thing is moving very quickly I mean you had this millionaire supporter of the Labour Party has decided to take the Labour Party to court to prevent Corbyn from standing on the ballot paper not to go to court to get £130,000 to be able to vote no to stop Corbyn on the ballot paper how that goes we'll have to see an injunction apparently is in the offering we'll see how it pans out but I think that every time they attempt to tighten the screws they'll get a reaction more and more people will support Corbyn that's the problem they have because it's seen as a stitch up by the establishment therefore you know it's going to get more and more people's backs up and they will vote more and come out and support Corbyn even more which is very good as far as I'm concerned because at the end of the day these people in the parliamentary Labour Party these infiltrators these Tories were mascarading as Labour members they should be deselected or let's be kind to them they should stand for election in every Labour Party constituency up and down the country let's see where if they get the support and their other stand against them and let them offer a different view of the Labour Party of course these people are horrified at that suggestion which I think is pretty democratic after all why shouldn't people stand for election you know you're not there for life too bad and it's not you who oh you know I'm here because I represent so many million people in the country in all this business the only people the reason why they got elected is because they were a Labour or a Labour ticket that's the only reason not because they were called Andrew Eagle or Owen Smith there's a lot of Smiths around but it's surely people aren't interested in the names they're interested in the party and what the party represents and that's what they're afraid of and they are they are prepared even to sabotage the party and strip the party and the reason being is that they they are not prepared to accept democracy they're not prepared to accept Corbyn's position or the vote of the rank and file itself and therefore because they have more in common with the Tories and the Liberals they're now talking that parliament perhaps they could be they could form a new party the parliamentary party could become the parliamentary Labour party of something or other and of course that's the sdp that's 1983 all over again 1982 all over again with the gang of four of Roy Roy Roy was in him Roy Roy Jenkins and Shirley Williams and the other two not entities I can't remember they are the ones who declare that you know we need a new party of the centre and they obviously they got hammered although they split the Labour vote in 1983 and loud talk loud factured to get the power remaining power so they did the dirty the stab Labour in the back and but nevertheless it didn't take off on this these the fuse of the Liberals became the Liberal Democrats of course they got eight members in parliament now although one of the financial times article the other day said well don't worry about that they did a good they did a good job because they destroyed the Labour party in one sense they got me Neil Kinnick to power in one sense or as party leader then you had Tony Blair then you had new Labour I mean that's that's the accomplishment of these people they said and that's exactly what they that is their real accomplishment in other words they have undermined and split the Labour movement and pushed back the ideas of socialism and it's quite ironically ironic when you hear you know Neil Kinnick talking about the parliamentary road to socialism all right then well I've been waiting long enough for it he's been how many Labour governments have there been you know we are no nearer socialism today as we were then in fact we were we further away from it after all those years of parliamentary you know socialism in the parliamentary Labour party and all the rest of it because all they were interested in is a bit of reforms and collected at own wage back at the end of the week and these career it should be as in the movement itself careerism is a is a cancer in the movement you know people then for their own ends and running things to their own ends whether it's in a trade genio of the Labour party that should be driven out we should have people there prepared to represent ordinary working people that's why we believe that Labour MPs shouldn't be on you know wages for expenses of nearly £100,000 a year they should be on the wages of ordinary workers let them live like ordinary workers then they'll see the need to fight like for ordinary workers rights and not only in the Labour party they should be applied in the trade unions as well if the trade union leaders are on the same wages of the people they represented then they'd fight the damn side harder than they've been doing in the last 10, 20 or 50 years and that's a democratic demand in other words get people on the top who are there because they're elected because of their ideas and their ability to fight and struggle not because they want a career and a fat income lived off of this movement and that way so we have to cleanse the movement but also we need this we've said that about this we need to say that the fight for socialism should be back on the agenda capitalism is in this deepest crisis since the 1930s they're talking about another slump uh there's enormous feeling everywhere of anti big business anti banker anti capitalism everywhere because of the results of capitalism and therefore we think that uh this should be back on the agenda because how can you solve the problems of working people you can't do it on a capitalist basis we tried things are getting worse this generation is going to be worse off than the previous generation the cuts on austerity are part of not a Tory ideology they're part of the crisis of capitalism itself and therefore a labour party needs to adopt the bold socialist programme not attempt to patch up capitalism and make it work better than the capitalist did because that's what every labour government has done or tried and every time they've tried it it's led to defeat because you cannot run a labour government cannot run capitalism better than the tories it's the tories system it's the capitalist system the labour government should be there to to throw or overthrow capitalism not patch it up and if it went to the electric and said that look these top billionaires are ruining our lives we have the resources in society if it's planned properly to solve the housing problem the poverty that exists the squalor that is there the health service the resources are there the scientific knowledge is there but it's in the wrong hands we've got to put it back into the hands of working people and that's why we need to take over the economy and run it not for profit but for the needs of ordinary people what an election winner what an election winner if carbon went and said that or the labour party said that if we've lost left wing progress it's 1945 people are yearning for it and yet that's why they're voting in UKIP and all sorts of things because it's something different let's see because they've fed up of what they've been offered in the past and that's why you need it's a radical programme a socialist programme would inspire young people inspire people generally uh in that way we can really begin to place power in the hands of working people because if they owned and control the economy they would have control of their lives and that's what we have to it's all a give people thing give it give it back to us we have got nothing we have to take control of the economy in order for us to produce the wealth for everyone not the not the tiny handful at the top so before my voice voice cracks up completely thank you very much