 Then I get on my pet dragon and I fly to Chicago for the Bulls game. What is going on Zendu and Dudette from all over the world and I say all over the world because we just made a Facebook post in the 4-way challenge group and we're like yeah what countries are you guys from and I think we have 235 responses right now at least like 60 different countries it's bananas bananas this is going crazy I'm really pumped on all of you guys I'm here in Columbia still Dan is in Pennsylvania and we're about to do episode number 15 15 Pennsylvania is in the United States by the way the United States episode number 15 up no 16 16 16 episode sweet 16 of asses and dudes and since it's sweet 16 I got a special gift for you today haha no gifts I'm just playing um Brandon oh oh wait wait wait before we get into the episode Venice Beach this upcoming Saturday May 27 2017 Venice Beach 12 p.m be there or be square first three people get free cross ropes ah that's interesting maybe I shouldn't say this but the first five people at my meetups are getting cross ropes wow so you think you're better than me because you're giving away all right west coasters don't worry we're bringing we're bringing mad ropes okay we're gonna do more than one meetup in Venice Beach please believe that so many meetups in Venice Beach is the first of many but we wanted to start right dancing me on the east coast on me on the west no dancing me on the west coast dancing me on the east coast on the west coast question number one from Shea what's up my dude Q for Dan dog how do you get out of your head and into the present moment in social situations dude that is a crazy that's a great question for those of you who don't know I used to struggle with social anxiety really bad and admittedly I still do like sometimes when you're talking to me I'll start sweating because I get really concerned about like what I'm saying and then I start forgetting what I'm saying and I just go into like some rant but dude to answer your question how do you get out of your head in the present moment in social situations you know I let it happen that's I let whatever I'm feeling happen if I feel nervous I just accept the fact that I'm nervous in a situation and I get really self-conscious because my hands get really sweaty like that's something I can't control even when I'm not nervous my hands get sweaty sometimes so then I get self-conscious because my hands are sweaty and then I'm like does the other person think I'm nervous do you know what I mean so honestly dude I just accept it and I think that acceptance of who I am and the fact that like I have sweaty hands sometimes and I get nervous and like forget what I'm gonna say sometimes is fine I just let that happen and the more that I talk about it and the more that I the more that I just like live with that on my sleeve the less it actually happens you know what I mean so I think this is just a like the point I want to make is just whatever feelings you have just go into them and just live them never try to deny or block the feelings you're having because then situations like anxiety or being you know trying to be present well it would probably come on worse and I've that was like the story of me all the way from like high school to college but yeah so in terms of like being in the present moment man just like just decide to listen attentively to whoever's speaking and that little voice inside your head that keeps talking you don't have to shut it up but just actually concentrate on what the words like the words that people are saying that was a big thing I used to struggle with so now when I catch myself with my mind wandering as people are talking I try to listen to like every syllable that they're saying and listen really really closely so that'd be my best I'd also add that you should all everything you said Dan and then also just don't start coming up with stories around how you're feeling you know if you start to feel nervous and your hands are sweaty or like you start to like get flush or overwhelmed like don't start to think yourself like oh like what are people thinking about me or like I'm feeling sweaty because of this this this just feel it and just let it be just let it just be with it just put your shoulder in it go into the experience and just let just be with it for sure I will say though sometimes you can't block that feeling sometimes those thoughts cannot be blocked and so you have to just live with the fact that the feelings are going to happen and you're sitting there inside your own head and you're going to just sit inside your own head and still try to be as present as possible because I think like the struggle that I had and I know a lot of people with social anxiety have is like you can't control those thoughts you can try and sometimes get over them but sometimes your mind is just going to wander and I think it's okay to just accept that too bro you know um I'm saying is just like like of course like you it's really hard if you have to train it's a muscle be able to control your thoughts so this kind of stuff happens over time it's what I'm pointing out is just uh be aware that like you're having a physical experience and like you don't have to justify it like you don't have to be like oh like this is happening because of this you know you can be like okay yeah I'm having these this this experience right now it's okay it's okay sure the show William David how can I become a senior athlete with a champion's mindset brandy do you want to answer this one first a senior athlete dude I think you just take it one day at a time you do the best you can what you have this is how you get good at anything you just stack every day on top of each other you you look at what you've done in the day before and you say can I match that and can I go an inch farther and that's how you become a champion dude tell him about the tell him about our boy in Utah tell him oh yeah about our uh 83 year old tommy who's jump and rope like a ninja with one lung and one big hip and is still doing the thing and he keeps getting knocked back by these surgeries he has and all these issues have with his body and what he does he just says to himself hey listen I'm going to just try to be better than did yesterday maybe that's not as good as what I did 10 years ago but I'm going to do better than I did yesterday and you just stack on top yeah absolutely absolutely and I think that uh like it really is just don't don't think of your age like your age does not define you and like this 83 year old dude he's one of the most like positive you know he's doing the thing skipping rope like he doesn't care how old he is he's just someone going after it so I think this goes back to the whole like age doesn't it doesn't matter it's not a thing it's it's not like a a thing that defines you and what level of athlete you are so you're an athlete bro you're an athlete who's saying asks oi oi what are your thoughts on extended fasting hours maybe up to a full week of only drinking water any side effects or irreparable damages I should know of my recommendation would be don't do that because I think anything in extremes uh usually is gonna be good for you just as a general rule of thumb of life for your body and life in general I would say if you want to do like 120 per hour fast a week like that could definitely work that's not a bad idea some day and I do from time to time but in general try to get your body in like a pretty consistent rhythm of like knowing kind of like what to expect from you and understand that you don't have to do anything super extreme like not eat for a week you can just eat the right amount of food every day um I don't know Dan what do you think I think uh if this is a religious related question if you're asking this because it's uh if it's part of a religion that's totally cool man like do whatever you want to do or even if it's not um I'm just gonna give you some of the like sign the science behind this kind of thing um extended fast I do believe is very beneficial for the longevity of your life and there have been a lot of research studies that show that fasting for like doing an extended water fast of a few days or a week can be beneficial but please understand that if you do that you will start to I'm not gonna say that you're gonna lose a bunch of muscle but if you go that long without getting certain macronutrients that is going to your body will require that it's going to start eating some of your muscle because it needs energy and it can't get that from food because you're fasted so it's going to go to your muscles to get that energy so um I don't think that you know also I would say too the only side effect of that is if you've never done that your body's definitely going to probably be in shock like your body's not gonna like that you're not feeding it for seven days so I would agree with Brandon man like I think uh I wouldn't like Brandon and I would not go out recommend this to people if you want to try it because you want to you know test your body and and kind of detox I think that's a great idea but just understand that like if you are trying to put on a bunch of muscle then I would definitely not recommend doing a seven day fast like that so it really just depends on what your goals are and what you are okay with sacrificing in order to achieve whatever result you want next question I can't read Arabic so I'm just gonna read the question but thank you for asking it for intermittent fasting how much BCAAs should we use well I would say in your fasted state try to get 5-10 grams of brachial amino acids while you're fasting that's a general thumb Steven Williams what's up my dude Zen dudes what was your parents reaction to you doing the thing i.e. moving to New York with $49 after getting an education and then moving to South America because the cost of living is cheaper let me tell you my friend I didn't move to New York with $49 I moved there with $12 and about $49,000 in debt so I was in a terrible financial situation and I'm not gonna lie I never I don't know if I've told this I think I've told this story before I was sitting on maybe not when I moved to New York like the day I decided I was going to move to New York I would use all my sick days when I worked in Washington DC and I would take the train up to New York and hang out with my cousins and like go on job interviews and I was sitting on at this park it's called the Williamsburg Bridge Park I think they're like the Williamsburg Park and I was looking at the skyline of New York and I was about to go see the last apartment that I ended up living in which was a complete and I was sitting there and it was rain it was starting to rain and I was calling my parents and my mom and dad were like Daniel you are absolutely not moving to New York you have literally no money at all and you don't have a job and I remember feeling really bummed out and super pissed because I was like I was just like when people say like I can't do something I get really angry and I'm like oh yeah seriously you don't think I can do that so like I remember sitting on this picnic bench and just being like I'm moving next week I don't care I'm going to sell all my DC and move and it wasn't a week later but like a month later that's what I did so my parents were definitely not supportive of that at first but then once I got a job and like all that stuff and it was it was totally fine and then moving to South America my parents were super concerned like they were definitely like Daniel why did you quit your super cushy corporate job in New York to move to South America and start and like now you don't have a job now you don't have any sense of security like they were definitely they're very supportive now at first they were absolutely not supportive at all I think my parents have always kind of like trust me and then like you know Brian just go uh go figure out well you know any parent I think like you don't know what you don't know so like when I went to like Columbia initially like I went basically like knowing like a couple dude and that's it and never been there before and just booking a flight without a return ticket and they're like okay like are you gonna be okay and like safe down there but um yeah it wasn't a lot of friction definitely a little bit of doubt but like my parents have been like pretty pretty solid throughout the whole process nice I wouldn't say my parents were like they're not the kind of people like they weren't mad like my parents like I love my parents to death they weren't like they weren't like oh you're throwing your life away they were just like super concerned they were very like you know Daniel we don't understand what you're doing um you know and it kind of seemed to me at the time like I was like why don't you support me like I'm doing what I love but really what I've realized as I've like grown through this process is that they're just really worried that their son was just doing something that like they didn't really understand. Andres! Hey guys! Hey Andres! I've always been told that after working out you should try to eat as soon as possible because your body needs to rebuild properly but sometimes I have to do the thing at 5 a.m. before work or 11 p.m. after my day is done. The problem is my eating window is from 2 to 10. What do you guys think should be a solution Brandon? Hit him with the solution. Yeah I'm gonna hit you with science and science says uh all that talk around like needing to eat right after you work out is actually super science. It's not any definitive research that can back that up it's really about how much you're eating in the entire day and maybe if you're a bodybuilder you'd be trying to like get those final inches and like maybe it'll help you a little bit but if you're not a bodybuilder don't worry about it man just make sure you eat the right amount of food in your whole day and you're gonna be great. Totally and if you and if you want man like the only thing I would add to that is like if you do work out at 5 a.m. you know consider changing your eating window a little bit like if you're working out that early shift your eating window so that you're breaking your fast at let's say 11 a.m. and then you're closing that off around like 7 7 p.m. that's like a strategy I think will help you maintain a lot of that muscle and then you're not going super long after that like if you're working out at 5 a.m. not eating until 2 p.m. would personally just be hard for for me so I would think about moving that that eating window up because remember it doesn't matter when you have the eating window the most important thing is you just condense that and then fast the other time so Howard asks is water fasting a good idea I've watched videos on how it can be a good detox some advice thanks dudes no problem Howard absolutely water fasting can help us to sell regeneration means like your body is being regenerating new healthy cells when you go this long period of time we're eating constantly your body is spending energy on digestion and just making sure it can process all the foods when you gave yourself some kind of chill and not eat your body can focus on other things like cell regeneration and making you healthier yes yes so check it out I'm doing a little water fasting I did have some coffee with some milk and I had athletic greens so it's possible I actually broke my fast but most days I don't take athletic greens till later and so I just do a little intermittent water fasting and I'm about you Brandon but I love the feeling of like drinking tons of water and not eating and like peeing a lot and like I feel like I'm cleaning my system yeah that way yeah like I just feel good when I do that Alfon oh this is a good one Alfon what was your dream when you were kids parentheses astronaut formula one driver did you and then on parentheses did you accomplish it play as my dream was to play for New York Knicks um I have not accomplished that but maybe my sub dream will be because I'm not going to play for next to suck a basketball will be to maybe be a sports psychologist for the next one day or some kind of like mental coach because that is like my main passion and uh I think that could depth I think that's definitely a possibility because so very well happened and uh that's all I got to say about that yeah I hear you man well first Brandon but uh until I was in like I think third grade my parents told me that I wanted to be a mechanic my dream my dream was to be a mechanic and I would say that and I remember as a kid being like I want to work on cars um then I got older and realized uh I don't care about cars and then I wanted to be I got really in the skateboarding and BMX and then I was Dave Mira the BMX rider was my idol so then until like eighth grade I wanted to be a pro BMX rider and I would like do my parents are so piss man there's so many dug up dirt things in my yard and on our banks because I would just ride ramps like after school all day um and then when I got to high school and like you know as college kind of went on then I decided I just want to be a professional dancer and that's still my dream and now my dream is just like my biggest dream ever would be to make hip hop music videos and dancing them for like 10 seconds and be known as like this producer that makes videos and then like has a 10 second cameo of just like dancing um did we accomplish that I kind of feel like zen dude fitness is my dream so like I in a way I do feel like I did accomplish that because the fact that like Brandon and I are sitting here having this conversation like I'm really overwhelmed with gratitude that we get to do this so in a way like I really I really do feel like we are absolutely like living I do feel like I'm living out my dream for sure Kathy asks this is not so much a question as a comment so Kathy does not ask she comments I was looking over the list to see how far the zen dude movement is reaching holy crap you guys are all over the world very excited for you both you're doing something fantastic and really making a difference congrats yo Kathy you okay Brandon and I started this but do you realize like zen dude fitness is what it is because of you you guys are the ones who are spreading this around you know all the countries you're from and you're the ones posting in the group so we super super appreciate that but understand that like you guys are the ones who are responsible for continuing to grow this movement so thank you guys yeah but Dan said yeah guys I said this on instagram store I did a instagram live last night guys aren't following us on instagram follows nd fitness on instagram we do lies all the time and I was just talking to the people that's on there but I was like it is so awesome that you guys all want to like take this positive action in your own life and the fact that like people do the thing that's why this works because then they transform their bodies their lives and then their friends and family are like whoa like what are you doing and then they're like oh well you know I started doing this like jump rope thing like I'm eating this certain way and so it's all built on you guys taking action and doing the thing so thank you for doing the thing because that's what this all builds on absolutely Barry asks is working out in a warmer environment burn more calories I remember reading that you burn more calories when it's cold because your body has to work harder according to the and now Brenna and I are not experts on this topic but according to the American Council of Exercise which let's be honest I don't know how reliable this is you burn more fat and calories and can exercise longer when you do so in warm temperatures according to the American Council on exercise but for overall like weight loss and fat loss the difference between how much you would lose in cold versus warm weather I'm sure is so small that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things like Brandon was talking about also everyone needs to understand this like a lot of people put scientific research or even peer reviewed research which is like the standard for like what we should listen to on like a huge pedestal but there's been so many conflicting research articles of like this is something we should accept but this is what something we should accept and they completely conflict with each other like how many studies have come out saying like saturated fats awful for you and in like especially through like 70s 80s 90s and now all this research is emerging saying like oh no it's not saturated fats actually like doesn't matter like the thing that's really worse for you is like sugar and like this game is going to go on forever there's also a lot of people do research that like they're not having as much integrity they have the power to publish peer-reviewed research but maybe like they still get through and it's not as ethical or there's cognitive biases around the research so do the research you can there's like a few things that Dan and I always talk about that are like things that can't be refuted things like the importance of like the amount of food you're consuming getting the right distribution of macro nutrients getting enough water in your system getting enough sleep yourself there's all these there's a handful of things that are irrefutable at this point beyond that like and you know and dude you're right like the things that are irrefutable are just like it's like common sense right like I feel like if you um like your mental state if you're a happy person you're going to have good energy inside of you that's going to help you live a longer life and be healthier because you feel good like obviously if you get a lot of sleep like if you get enough sleep you're going to wake up and and feel good or if you drink enough water so I feel like yeah don't concentrate so much on this is to our audience like don't concentrate so much on these like like research studies that are like trying to find like certain substances or like little things to nitpick at and just do do the things that logically are going to make you feel good and be a happy person I do believe that like being a happy person is going to be a bigger determinant of how long you live not so much like if you eat bacon or not. Grigit! Now the sex question from Grigit. Does masturbation affect weight loss? Depends on uh if you got a big load of- right? Does masturb- Grigit, you ask us a sexual question every week man. What I will say is dude if you're looking at porn stop looking at porn stop looking at porn that is going to desensitize you and there's a ton of research out there as far as like the damage that porn does to your mind so if you're just like masturbating like right now I don't have my girlfriend so I'm doing a lot and that's totally cool and I'm fine with it but don't look at porn and masturbate because there is a ton of research out there that that shows that doing that creates like this artificial feeling and artificial release of dopamine that can hurt your sexual performance in general with with real people with real connections so if you're if it if this is anything to do with like porn stop looking at porn that would be my recommendation. I think Dan let me just mention this right now you should make this a restrictive video when you upload it to YouTube because we could get in trouble for all this because I want to go even deeper on this and say that you're right like the suck around like porn like it does desensitize you because a lot of you there maybe you're watching like like three girls have a threesome with this one dude and they're all like drop dead gorgeous and like it's cool that like you're maybe not going to replicate that experience but if that's your expectation like it may hinder your ability to perform like there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on your head when you put yourself in a situation so I personally I'd like I've lived with my my wifey here since October I haven't really had much time apart but when I do a little I do it to like past memories or do it to her I use my imagination it's just porn because I don't want to condition anything that's gonna like yeah or condition anything that's not real like you said you don't want to have this expectation of something that's not actually occurring in your your real life because you're not going to appreciate the sexual experiences you have with with real people and like I feel that real sexual connection and experience is one of the best things about like being a human in this world like sharing that with with a real human being so just something something to think about I think the biggest part right it's probably like it takes away the emotion from it huh yeah like when you see it as like this physical act when like the most wonderful beautiful part about having sex is like connecting with someone feeling the emotion the love and the connection and but the lust everything that comes with us nila asks who painted the red white and black painting you guys sit in front of um that would be if you can't see that in this video there we go now you can um who painted that let me show you can you see that yeah we don't actually know I think it was in Brandon's house when he's when he rented that apartment it was there he's a parish apartment so I don't know Lily how are you how are you doing thanks for asking do you guys have rest days if so what does the perfect one look like parentheses kind of like when you say what's the perfect date put in rest day addition winky face nice lily okay I'm glad she included that because I would have gave her like the knee jerk reaction of like there is no perfect rest day but because she's you made the analogy of the perfect date I would say a perfect rest day would be like something you know maybe some long walks maybe some light yoga uh don't say maybe say what would be yours I think she she wants to know like what is Brandon Epstein's like perfect rest day perfect rest day here it is wake up after a nice nice sleep get up you know drink a lot of water um maybe have a nice americano or espresso go for a walk in the morning sun uh still fasted maybe uh you know late afternoon do a little bit of light yoga in the park somewhere outside getting some sunlight on me uh maybe walk back go break it fast like early afternoon um just chill and maybe do some meditation park on there uh just yeah being outside doing some stretching moving my body but not with any like vigorous intention just giving it some love maybe you know late afternoon early evening having a little sex you know just like give someone else a little bit of love uh and then you know having a big a big feast in the evening not not too big but like nutrient decks lots of like salad and like you know macro friendly like maybe a chicken salad some pesto um maybe some fresh fruit for dessert and then uh you know going to sleep with a nice book and that's like it's a great rest day to me all right here's my perfect rest day i wake up right i'm with two i had last night i then i get on my pet dragon and i fly to chicago for the bulls game serious serious rest day perfect rest day i feel like i actually did this day like a lot of weekends in columbia um like over the past six months i would do this almost every sunday wake up stay fasted uh drink a lot of water have a little bit of coffee uh answer the comments from the dojo like do some light computer work and then around 11 i would smoke a little bit of marijuana not saying you guys have to i'm just saying like this is what i actually do on most sundays smoke a little weed get my camera and sundays for me like my rest days were all about creating and like trying new things out with my with my camera so i would go on these walks and i would just walk for like 10 miles and just practice like new angles of shots and i would listen to music and i'd be fasted for most of it and then at the end of the day i'd walk home and i would do the same thing as brandon i have like a big nutrient dense kind of meal and i would either watch like a joe rogan podcast episode or something on youtube that just like fun or i would i would watch a movie um that's how i like to spend my my rest days for sure creating oh and it didn't happen all the time but sex i totally agree with you dude there's nothing better than some sunday sex jim asks do you buy your sweatpants ripped or have they gotten like that from lots of doing the thing i guess i'm the only one with ripped sweatpants shit i bought them ripped but uh brennan i didn't tell you this bro there's holes like there's a hole this big in my crotch now and and i rip the back pocket of my black ones so i got a hole in the crotch like now there's holes all over them so jim to answer your question um i bought the sweatpants with holes in them but now because of doing the thing there's way too many holes in them and i need to get new sweatpants and uh can i just ask you guys something like the audience like what the f*** do you guys care so much about the the holes in my sweatpants jim i don't think you care because i think you're like actually asking but like what's up with all these f*** who are like who are like oh dude you think you're so cool you're rips in your sweatpants like it f*** looks cool okay like knock it off with this like you think you're so cool i'm like yeah f*** i think i look cool why the hell is what i buy them like people make no sense to me bro like i'm gonna buy new ones and i'm gonna cut holes in them dude gary vanertuk had such a good rant that i watched last night that uh that you could tell he was like pissed in the way that you're pissed about people paying attention to f*** it doesn't matter instead of doing the thing that's basically what he was talking about he was like because he made a video of like you know you have what does your 18 hours look like he's like i sleep six hours and i have 18 hours to just do the thing like going in and like try to make my my dreams come true and he's like why the f*** are people commenting saying like oh i can't sleep really six hours he's like i don't care if you f*** sleep for six seven eight nine ten hours is like the whole point of it is like what are you doing in the time that you're awake he's like everyone gets caught up in these like things that don't matter at all yeah and you're not paying attention to what the actual thing is which is like yo like for you for like we're just do the workout stop getting hung up in the pants for gary it's like just listen to the advice and do the thing and don't get don't pay attention to sleeping six hours or eight hours sleep as much as you need dude it's almost like people are like some of the people it's almost like they're saying dude dan i would be able to do this workout if you didn't have holes in your sweatpants if you didn't have holes i'd be able to do it so funny to me man yeah guys stop stop caring about stuff that uh doesn't matter do the thing joanna asks how about a meal plan for vegetarians no meat no fish only or no seafood eggs or dairy okay so vegan plan i guess is what you're asking for if there's no eggs or fish or anything like that um here's the thing as zendu fitness we created this whole movement for people who want to get on board with the movement that we've created right so we're attracting people in who really like jump row who want to move their body in fun ways who want to have fun moving their body exercising you can do whatever you want regarding like the nutrition but we don't live that lifestyle so as of now like we're not going to create that so we're not going to use it we want to have authenticity around what we're teaching i don't ever want to tell you to do something that i would never do and as of right now i would not eat that diet so that's why i'm not going to create that like you wouldn't want someone to coach you like you wouldn't want to train for like a boxing fight from someone who's only ever trained in like jujitsu like that's that's kind of what i'm getting at here like you don't want to see even create that because like that's not what we do it's not our expertise so that's what i have to say about that perfect answer perfect answer jayme asks any tips to help with knee discomfort i feel knee discomfort during lunges and air squats or with explosive movements like double unders doing the thing seems to be helping with this with the discomfort as it's not as bad i think great form is going to go a long way in helping with this i'm going to assume that when you jump rope you're coming more than one or two centimeters off the ground you should only come so far off the ground to be able to get the rope just really under and that will come with time focus on form there and for your other body weight exercises make sure that you are always like when you're lunging you're bringing your your knee over your heel and you're pushing up through your heel and so you can really uh so you can just have good biomechanics when you're when you're activating your muscles and your gluteal and hamstrings otherwise your joints are going to be out of uh out of balance when you're biomechanics are off it's going to create more stress on your on your bones on your on your tendons the things that make hurt absolutely yeah and i would just say like also inflammation might play a role in that so make sure you're eating a lot of vegetables make sure you're hydrated so that your joints and everything feel well lubricated and you don't have the inflammation could be a part of that as well so i would just make sure to not only hit your macros but also get those micronutrients and eat a lot of vegetables and make sure to stay hydrated shannon asks do you guys have a day job or is zdf your full-time job now zdf is the only thing that i've even thought about so last almost two years now it's it's been about 20 no it's like 19 to 20 months where literally i haven't thought about anything with real intention besides endu fitness so the answer is i guess does i answer pretty well yeah this is i mean shannon this has been zendu fitness has been our full-time day job night job every kind of job since we started zendu fitness um and i think i'm not sure why you're like uh like why you might be asking but one thing i will say is like i think you know story time for a sec here you guys have to understand that when brandon i first started this like it was a struggle like we weren't making a lot of money and it was really difficult to to get by and anyone considering starting something i'm not saying that you should just quit your job and have no plan but if you like zendu fitness guys i think it's important to note that you guys might see one six minute video a day and you might see like five instagram posts and so you might think oh well this is like you know they have something else that's getting them by guys i've never worked so much in my life like we work in order to get a six minute video out three to four times a week we work 16 hours a day and so there is no way that we could have been like there is absolutely no way that we could have had day jobs and have zendu fitness be where it's at right now because and that's a lesson for anyone starting a business like if you have a plan and you are working a day job and then you're kind of doing something at night at some point you got to burn the ships and go all in if you want it if you want it to be to reach its maximum potential you have to take the risk of going absolutely all in and that risk is real like brandon and i did run the risk of like running out of money and not knowing if this is going to work but we had that belief and that faith that zendu fitness is going to work and it's going to work for a long time and we're going to do everything in our power to make sure that that remains like that so just a lesson for anyone who's like looking to start a business go all in yeah dude uh this is going to be like big time gary v promotion but gary rancher again like i think it was maybe the same video that he was going on his ranch in last night i think it was the same ranch he was saying like this stuff is binary like you're either in or you're not in and that's what dan i realized we were in so it didn't matter what it took it doesn't matter like how poor we got doesn't matter how many times we get punched in the face because it's not working we're in until it works and it's binary you're in you're not in so if you want to do it like do it and maybe that means you do have to have a part-time job for you but like it doesn't matter do it for as long as you need like it's just a mindset you're flipping a switch to on or off you're in or you're out and just to anyone who might have this question brandon and i did not get any money we did not get any help like we used a little bit of savings that i had for my previous job and like we were poor like we didn't have any money when we started zendu fitness and we had no help from our parents from from friends from investors like it was nothing we had to scrape everything we possibly could to make this work and so i just i hope that that is inspiring to some people who feel like oh i don't have the resources whatever brandon is exactly right it's binary you're either in or you're out athletic green green juice supplement that we take to make sure we get our micronutrients all up in our body because sometimes you don't get enough vegetables or fruits and this is the great supplements get you there or if you do get lots of micronutrients for fruits and vegetables and you want to just get bonus points and make sure that your body just has all the nutrients it needs and more great option right here protein um tastes great it's grass fed high integrity protein just because um there's just nothing in it so for grass fed whey protein cocoa powder vanilla flavor chocolate chip flavor stevia like when you look at most proteins there was like a thousand ingredients like this is very simple but it's it's as close to a whole food for a supplement as you're gonna get it yeah dude that's so funny that you mentioned uh putting it in the fridge my mom i'm home at my parents house and my mom saw the athletic greens and she was like why aren't you putting that in the fridge and i was like mom you don't put athletic greens in the fridge and she yeah she read the label she was like it says put it in the fridge and i was like oh my god i haven't been doing that so now mine's in the fridge it says it right there we've never read that i've never read that 90 days do you think maybe your athletic greens like goes bad kind of like it doesn't work as well it's you know refrigerated i don't know i feel like we go through it fast enough though that it's not like like if you left it for like if you take one scoop a week then yeah maybe after six months but i don't know i feel like i always go through it in like three or four weeks this ladies and gentlemen is the best jump rope in the world that i've ever used it's straight magic at the cross rope agility rope by cross rope it's linked in the description below it's the one we use every day and it's so smooth it feels so good it makes you feel like a jump rope ninja you know it's pretty crazy every it's 10 percent off description which like 10 percent i know it's not that exciting but it's something and forget about the 10 percent like every time someone gets one they post the four week challenge group or in the dojo facebook groups and they're like oh my god i wish i would have bought this like a year ago this makes my jump rope ability so much better like the testimonials are so overwhelmingly positive that it's like doesn't matter how much it costs i mean i know it does some people but like it doesn't cost so much where you have to put like a loan down it's like 49 but 45 49 bucks on the internet yeah recommended ladies and gentlemen we'd like to again thank you for everything that you do for this amazing community we want to thank you for tuning in for another episode of ask the zen dudes and again i want to say thank you guys as we make our way out to los angeles and start this new chapter of zen dude fitness what this means is we'll be able to see a lot more of you in person uh we're very excited about that and uh thank you guys that's all i got brandon any closing statements at the wing of what you said super grateful for all of you keep the positivity coming uh more positivity more love more doing the thing is it deuces