 Rob always always down to clown with the DTNS crew Feel like it can do well the beast It's not what they make they can As they make their massive migration from So all that Roger I am to believe that you have a Familiarity with the sound of a will to be but not the concept of the World Cup I Used to be really big in animals Used to be yeah I'll be honest growing up. I played sports, but I was never really interested in competitive sports There's a difference between that which is a fair point to make and we respect you for it and saying I've never heard of the Cup which I didn't say I'd never heard What was going on I was not up-to-date your I think that's what I think you're excessively Let's roll the tape ribbing me. I Don't actually know what a will to beast is full disclosure. What is it? What Sarah? You know What the World Cup is and you don't know what a will to be stance I just think of it as a very large animal that I've never seen before it has four legs. How has horns You see those African Serengeti Nature shows where the lion kills like the horned animal that has like a mane on the back that is in a zebra It's probably a will to be I thought that was like There's also a water buffalo, but they're very dangerous and Very that they're attacked very infrequently when they're full grown Well, so sorry. I'm so into sports speaking of draft on Thursday Who's excited? Justin I'll tell you what I'm excited to see because there's a couple pieces in play now as of course LeBron James free agent that will probably reshift things and we have no more time because we have to start the show Absolutely Sarah Lane. It is your turn to all right convince the people in three Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Monday June 18th 2018. I'm Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. Are you sure Tom? I'm Sarah Lane From Oakland, California. I'm Justin Robert young and of course we wouldn't be complete without our producer Roger Chang Hello, I do know what a will the beast is. I'm a little fuzzy on the world cup That's okay. Listen to the pre-show on patreon for more on that. Let's start with a few tech things you should know Google will invest $70 million in China's second largest e-commerce company JD.com 10 cent and Walmart are also investors in JD Survey monkey registered for an initial public offering on Monday Survey monkey, which was founded 1999 says it currently has over three million daily users Sandia National Laboratory is adopting HPE's arm based Supercomputer called Astra as an experimental platform for nuclear research goes well It could be actually integrated in regular research Astra is a more powerful Efficient supercomputer with faster memory speeds than x86 CPUs which makes it great for bandwidth sensitive applications The US Supreme Court says it will hear Apple's appeal against a ruling that Apple breaks antitrust laws with its app store A class action lawsuit says Apple monopolizes the sale of apps leading to inflated prices Google's data Lee app which helps reduce data usage has added the ability to find nearby Wi-Fi hotspots set data limits for yourself and Others and find unused apps that consume data so you can delete them that last one is something I want definitely Yeah, all right Let's talk a little bit more about 9-1-1 This is one of those stories that I think is good, but it's getting a lot more buzz than I expected Maybe it's cuz it's one of those Apple Finally getting on board with something other phones have and the iOS people getting very excited Apple announced that iOS 12 will automatically share your location with first responders during 9-1-1 calls in the US If the call center supports it So there's a protocol that iOS will support any emergency call centers here in the US that support that will be able to Automatically locate it and it's more than just geo location with Wi-Fi and GPS There there's a improved way of doing it In fact Apple says it should exceed the FCC's 2012 requirement of pinpointing your location within 165 feet a Minimum of 80% of the time which is which is very accurate And they say there's assurances that location info will only be shared with the 9-1-1 center during the call and won't go anywhere else Doesn't it kind of seem like 9-1-1 in 2018 is almost outdated This is part of it, right? It's like well if you were in an emergency And you really needed help, you know and someone on the other line is like where are you? What's the cross street that kind of thing like this is really helpful? What's interesting is that it sounds like what Apple is doing is Basically absorbing another company that's been doing this for a while, but I was 12 pardon me will not Make you download this separate app, which of course a lot of people would know to do Sure, I almost wonder whether or not there's something to just having an app where The full range of sorting what what issue you need with the government your local government that if it's like an absolute emergency It should be different like I don't know it seems like there's a lot of data that when we interact with law enforcement We would be more willing to do it if it were Had less friction that we have in almost every other way of life I kind of feel like 9-1-1 is doing what you're saying No, because you still have to call them Well, I mean to make a phone call and in many situations where you need 9-1-1. That's a major problem Button I don't have to actually dial the numbers anymore Sure, right and like let's say, I don't know you're you're bleeding out. You can't talk like Somebody can pinpoint you and get to you More quickly. I mean I can say hey voice actor vaded assistant call the emergency call I don't say 1-1-2, but you know, yeah, no, I'm saying that this is a good step in the right direction I'm also Yes, anding. I think that we could even go further than I thought you're trying to get to a 9-1-1 It's a joke in your town That's a whole He's out of there depends on the town On a totally different note Microsoft has acquired Flipgrid a video discussion platform app that uses video to make Collaborative lesson plans where students can discuss and reply to topics with video clips at home or in the classroom Microsoft VP Iran Me Said that Flipgrid will continue to work across Microsoft Google and partner Ecosystems the company also says more than 20 million teachers and students in more than 180 countries are now using the service I have never used it before not a student but I did actually play around with it a little bit earlier and It's very cool. It seems Unorganized almost in the way that I would assume Facebook might have been in the early days when it was a lot of students and nobody else but Knowledge base is is cool and the fact that Microsoft is dropping paid plans now that they're Acquiring Flipgrid means that they're you know, they're serious about the education sector. Oh, yeah No, they need to be Microsoft really wants to supplant Google And keep Apple Declining in the education space the education market is a competitive market for all three of those companies And not to discount Facebook and Amazon which also have a passing interest, but hardware wise You can sell a lot of hardware if your business is selling hardware Which Google's is with Chromebook and apples and Microsoft certainly is as well You want to have as many advantages and being able to say hey We're the folks that bring you Flipgrid where the power we can give you a little extra with that Is just it's another checkbox not going to make all the difference, but it's another thing to add to that list Geek wire notice that Amazon has discontinued the Mayday button on its fire Tablets Mayday was a service first introduced with the fire phone that let users reach a human for face-to-face support with one tap Fire tablet owners will continue to have access to support via phone chat and email and screen sharing with support staff will remain functional I always wondered if this was a bad idea And I assumed Amazon had taken enough Enough precautions and was done the calculations to assure that the money spent on it would be well worth it and increase subscriptions I wonder if a lot of those calculations and preparations Required the fire phone to be successful because it sounds like an Amazon hasn't said why it's removed this It just kind of quietly did it and people started to notice But it sounds like it was expensive first of all and maybe not worth it and be people were using it to prank If you go to YouTube and search Mayday videos You find a lot of people like hey sing happy birthday to my friend or you know like doing things It's not designed to do. Yeah, the name Mayday is not great Probably Amazon didn't get enough. Yeah, didn't get enough actual Questions that they thought that their support center could answer and apparently they were getting those questions and people liked it But they were also getting all those other stuff too. Also, it's this is a world that isn't you know Less and less are you going to drop a tablet into somebody's hands and then be like what? I can't do a thing Mayday right because that was what it's for and to me it seemed like a lot of getting to know you kind of stuff that Amazon was still new into that game They wanted to make sure that this is a thing that without it without a question You can buy as a gift drop it in your You know your your older parents hands and they're not going to just make it a paperweight because they are scared of it That there's a button that they can hit. I will bet you at some point in the next 10 years Because of AI and advances in machine learning The cost will come down the the cost will be appropriate to hire real humans to do something like this Someone some company will launch a replacement service and we'll say oh my gosh It's your member Amazon Mayday and the disaster it was I can't believe they're trying it again except that time It'll work in the future Know this day lock it in Tom's of a moonshot of the week In Salt Lake City this week scientists from Nvidia are presenting an unsupervised neural network speaking of machine learning That can add an arbitrary number of frames to a video in order to simulate slow motion They call the technique variable length multi-frame Interpretation now you could slow down any video and make it slow But it gets jerky if it doesn't have enough frames so what this does is takes one convolutional neural network and Estimates the pattern of motion of all the objects and services and edges between the two frames That are that you're slowing down and then creates a 2d vector of predicted motion called a flow field and says well Even though we only have these two frames Let's assume that the ball goes this way and this particle goes that way all right a second convolutional neural network Then uses that flow field to predict what parts of the scene would disappear behind other parts and applies it to the two images It's called a visibility map So the flow field then warps the image in a way like you think you've seen like one face warp into another it Does that and transitions one frame smoothly to the next the team train the networks with 240 frame per second YouTube videos Including some slow mo guy videos that were already slow motion and they made them even slower They used an Nvidia Tesla v100 GPU set and a CU DNN accelerated pytorch deep learning framework to do all this It looks good it is You got to watch the video because they'll show you like this is what the video would look like if we just slowed it down And it's kind of jerky right because the frames don't roll smoothly together when they're going too slow And then it shows you what this neural network did and it just looks like slow mo video Yeah, no it is amazing and it also kind of shows you You know, I think we've thought specifically with phones that we've kind of hit a saturation point in terms of the tech for photography and video But as we get more powerful technology Not only on the on the on the desktop but also in mobile I think we could continue to see super super super rad stuff Yeah, the problem with this is you can't do it in real time So they're like even if we could bring it to people to use on their phones It would have to be a cloud service at this point. So there's still some work to do Amazon began offering Amazon Prime in Australia which offers free delivery streaming video and more Amazon has restricted Australian shoppers to using only the Australian version of the site to avoid collecting Australian sales tax We've talked about this recently However, Amazon's vice president of prime international Jamie Ghani said that Australian amazon prime subscribers could get free international delivery of items offered on the u.s website So The trial Ghani did not enlighten us as to how this is possible. Does it mean they're just going to pay the tax for people? because it would seem that Even if you say, okay, if you're prime user, you'll be able to order that u.s stuff You'd still have to pay the tax for Australia somehow, right? That also just might be a getting everybody on board Kind of thing that you can slowly restrict, right? Or maybe not. I don't know. I don't know the whole point of this was yeah that you know Australia was having its own store didn't have the same stuff that maybe the I am Of the opinion that possibly of the view that possibly it's kind of like Costco where they make a significant chunk of their Revenue based on membership cards not just merchandise sales. That's absolutely true. You're right. Yeah This might be like well, yeah, we might have to pay the the import tax But we're gonna bet that not enough people buy a lot of big items And so the tax will not exceed the amount of revenue we would get from people Just signing up and paying the the annual subscription fee Yeah, I would I would modify that a little bit where they make their money is selling Items to the subscribers because they're going to buy more if they're a subscriber But I think you're right. They're betting that okay if we get them to sign up as a subscriber They'll buy more stuff and honestly most of it will be in Australia So just saying that you'll be able to get the stuff from the u.s We'll end up bringing them in but we won't have to pay that much extra that could be it It's definitely, you know, it's definitely a gamble, but they probably have the the statistics to say like, you know, hey You know, yeah, some people stuff will buy like, you know an oddball, you know, $2,000 item from the u.s But most, you know, most of the stuff is like 10 20 bucks and it's you know, it's pocket change to the amount of money We're gonna rake in It would not be unusual for a site to say people complain more than they actually use Uh and then just bank on that in this case Well, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines. It's available on the anchor app google home The amazon echo and of course as a podcast you can find it at daily tech headlines dot com The internet and conspiracy theories we think of them as hand in hand these days The next web has reposted an article from the conversation written by Karen Douglas a professor of social psychology at the university of kent about How conspiracy theories spread online now a lot of you probably think the internet is responsible for a rise in conspiracy theories And professor douglas points out there's no evidence That the internet makes conspiracy theories spread But there is evidence that it deepens the commitment to believing them among those who already do so Just running through the article which is absolutely worth a read and she's got Great citations of all the studies that she's talking about uh the conversation does a great job She points out first of all conspiracy theories aren't new they go back to ancient rome There's a whole book called conspiracy narratives in roman history where you can read about it There's no evidence that people are more prone to believe conspiracy theories now Because of the internet an analysis of published letters to the editor of the new york times Showed that between 1897 and 2010 Theorizing remained steady conspiracy theories remained steady With peaks only happening during the depression in the late 1800s not even the 30s But the late 1800s and the red scare of the 1950s. That's when the conspiracy theories spiked But since the internet happened in the mid 90s, there hasn't been another spike like that the conclusion that she comes to in her article is that It seems like conspiracy theories are deepened in some online communities Believers tend to join communities and and she cites all the studies that support this Believers tend to join communities with other believers Those communities tend to keep out non-believers And filter out at any contrary information So it strengthens their belief because they build their own little echo chamber And believers in one theory are more likely to share Another conspiracy theory, even if it's unrelated 77.92 of likes and 80.86 of comments Were from users usually interacting with conspiracy stories on other conspiracy stories According to another one of these Journal and peer reviewed studies that she talks about so I I love this because I'm constantly saying well Hold on fake news conspiracy theories echo chambers. What's the evidence say? This is useful This helps you actually build a way to combat it to say, okay Now we know where the problem is the problem is the people who believe them solidify What can we do to relieve that? well, and I think the the you know the easy answer which is what I came up with this morning is like Well, you know, but the internet just helps, you know information travel faster, right? So none of this has really changed over the years It's just that the internet uh is is is heightening all of this But it doesn't really address the issue of why this happens in the first place Well, I think that the the roots of it again are Kind of eternal right like as long as we have had a recorded civilization or the the peak of of a civilization in ancient Rome that was worth studying We found traces of people being like well, you want to know what really happened Uh, so that's just kind of I think just a quirk of the human brain Julius Caesar was an inside job, which actually it was that's it was it? Yeah, so that one turns out put that one in the check mark column there The beautiful thing about the internet is that everything is verifiable And so in a lot of ways, I think Sarah you're right and this proves it That the internet does what it what we have the optimists have always assumed that it does get information out faster It makes it more readily available and that leads to smarter decision making The other end of this is if everything is verifiable, then we know to a granular detail Exactly how far people fall into an echo chamber when it comes to conspiracies because We can see the message boards and we can count the likes and we can count the interactions and then create data based on it, but At the end of the day It seems like we're getting better. I mean look if according to these studies We what we can Consider to be at least I consider to be the golden age of american conspiracy theory was the 1970s And that doesn't even apparently register compared to uh, some of the the gigantic peaks of the 1950s and the uh late 1800s Well, think about it one of one of the reasons conspiracy theories were so Popular in the 70s was because we had real conspiracies being unearthed with the watergate the pentagon papers, etc but a hallmark of that time are things like The principia discordia and the illuminatus trilogy which are making fun of conspiracy theories Uh, and so it shows that people are like, hey, there's real conspiracies. They get pulled out in the light of day, you know We're not going to really believe that there's there's all this other weird crazy stuff And and that makes sense to me and it ties into what you're saying, justin Which is we have more light of day on things than we've ever had before And I think we've also gotten spoiled by that faster than ever before so that you know Things don't move linearly when suddenly it darkens a little and and there's there's people trying to hide stuff We start to think oh things are getting worse and it's the internet's fault and it turns out Well, no, it's just the cycle of human behavior And that's why I love stuff like this is you could say well, tom You're just being naive, but the there is no evidence that we are believing conspiracy theories in greater numbers So if we spend a lot of energy trying to stop people from believing conspiracy theories We're kind of fighting the wrong battle. We need to target like okay Where are these conspiracy theories? Hardening and causing people to do more dangerous things and more extreme things because they're hardening in their belief That's where we should be spending the time in my opinion Uh, yeah, but to to the point about deepening conspiracy theories The rise or rather popular discussion over flat earth conspiracy theories is always my my favorite because talk about deepening nine times out of 10 In my anecdotal, uh research into this A flat earth conspiracy is always the voltron Of four other separate different conspiracy theories. You very rarely just wake up and say well, obviously the earth is flat It's more likely you believe that they uh, that there's a line to you You have a general distrust that there is yes that there is a control of the media that One-world government that there are uh falsifications in the scientific community at the very least that the people that uh, went that you know, the moon landing was a hoax and then when you Mash all of them together you get The grandest of all lies that has been hidden Which is that we indeed live on a flat disc as opposed to a round sphere and that is Fascinating to me and and it is it is informed by this that A conspiracies are meant to interlock and b the one thing that we can prove Through our verification of the internet is that these things have gone Deeper and deeper. Well and look at facebook twitter Any large social network is now trying to figure out. Okay. How do we try to mitigate disinformation and make everybody You know feel safer and and this whole thing because they're huge and now they have to solve a problem that already exists snopes.com Pretty much always has my answer Anytime i'm like is this real or not, you know, but that that's a very antiquated Solution, right? It's it's um It that's the only real website that I can think of. I mean unless you're like trolling reddit for a while that uh, you know kind of Seeks to unmask a lot of these things instead of people just sort of Talking bubbles. Oh, no, there's I mean first of all. Yes. It's the only one that's broad, but there's politifact Uh, there's fact checked out politically oriented, but also you can just do a search I think we forget that like you don't even have to go to snopes. Just be like hold on What is always the first result? What does the new york times have to say about this? What is you know, what and maybe you don't believe the new york times? What is what are the journal articles say like you can find reputable sources that comment on stuff? uh, so so they're you know just You don't even need snopes is great because it it It takes all that stuff and puts it together for you. Uh, but there's there's more information out there than ever if you just go and look for it The human race will begin solving its problems on the day that it ceases taking itself so seriously Hey speaking of reddit, thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit Submit stories and vote on other stories at daily tech news show reddit.com if you want to hang out on facebook We're there too facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Let's Look in the mail bag dare we we got a nice email from patrick and main who says I've been listening to tom merit hosting shows for a long time now a decade Can't afford to put too much in in the patreon pool, but just wanted to say tom Thank you you do an excellent job at hosting and telling news in a way that usually makes me fall asleep within 10 minutes I'd say thank you patrick, but you're asleep by now so Sweet dreams. No, it's great. It's great. 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They say That's funny You can know it and still deny it I guess that means know the truth, but yeah still did It's very um ex files Do they start the new season do they have a new season it it I I know it started. I don't know I finished the last Last season with the weird cult it's harvesting organs, but I think that was the last episode as well having somnia buy my book I'm james badersen. I write everything you should read it I remember when s and l made uh made fun of his uh his somewhat prodigious writing and They had robert deniro as kind of this uh as as kind of the uh Kind of that character, you know the author um, james badersen like And he all these titles were ridiculous were so funny one of them that stood out was the pokemon deception I don't know why it's just really funny James badersen i'll tell you what I I almost felt Bad for james badersen. I'm sure he Retired back to his igloo made of $100 bill bricks feel bad about himself, but He in those uh that that that today show interview with the new bill clinton book that he wrote that turned into a dissection of Bill clinton's place in a post me to world. There was just a james badersen a a befuddled james badersen sitting next to him saying like Really like All right, I guess i'll just Sit here and not total my thumbs. I guess yeah, I'll just I'll just be here Glad I wrote this book with the next president I'm gonna go shoot with money going back to my igloo going back to my money igloo I like flat earth is the voltron conspiracy theory yep Going twice sold sold conspiracy Um, would you guys mind terribly if I yes look off Yep, I wouldn't mind at all. We'll talk about you constantly after you go ahead and leave but then the conversation Remember the movie the constant gardener? Well, this is the constant gossip the constant gossip I can I can understand and I will rejoin you guys on thursday Uh, but thank you for allowing me to bow out early. Oh, yeah, no problem. Thanks. Thanks. Justin see thursday Oh You know we uh, I forgot I know we said uh, Lamar wilson was going to be on the show on friday and then we did not acknowledge that but we actually didn't because All right, so this is a coincidence. Did we not say that on friday? It's a completely fortunate coincidence I miswrote justin for monday. So you said justin. Oh really though. Yes. Oh, I'm looking at that down That's why I didn't want to say anything. Was it a mistake or clairvoyance roger I know I didn't realize until after the show Just don't say anything when we feel good as a producer He like can see through time Our google docs have become omnipresence You know that actually sounds like a really good twilight episode Twilight's a or black mirror where technology sees in the future for you just a few Days ahead That's awesome. Well, I guess take it back. Lamar wilson was never going to be on this show I don't know what you're talking about. Where'd you hear that? Well, you said no, I didn't say anything But I never said that he was Sure, sure Well, if you were like, wait a minute, isn't lamar on a monday sometimes. Yes, and he will be again. Don't worry He uh, he had something come up at the last minute today I think justin. I think roger paid him off So His the rundown would still be accurate. I'm not wrong here Here's a hundred dollar brick. I stole from patterson's money igloo. That's what that's what rich people do Isn't it like I can't be wrong. I'm gonna pay you to make it. No throw money at the problem until it's right I wish people would throw me maybe I could be the problem and people would throw money at me like like literal money Throw me some of those bricks We go to next time you go to comic con or or any convention get a t-shirt that says the problem And then in parentheses try throwing money at it Throwing money at it may solve I guarantee. I'll just get a lot of coupons People don't carry coupons. It's a conference. No, but Shannon morse does she carries coupons everywhere. That's a good point She's a coupon. It's a real thing. Yeah, I think it's every time I see those coupons. It's for things I wouldn't use regularly. So Ralph's Sends me coupons because I shopped there Uh, and it knows what I buy because I do their little card thing And They're great because they're for the things I buy So I'm like, this is all this is all I'm going to buy this anyway You know and now I get 50 cents off or in some cases free. It's a way it's a loyalty program It's like make sure you keep going Ralph's because hey, look at this. We give you cool stuff I went and shopped last week with my fist full of Ralph's coupons Pulled all the things that I had coupons for that I needed Walked up to the cash register and didn't use them Uh, I've done that once and I kicked I kicked this You just didn't want to I just forgot I have done my pocket in my shirt I I was carrying them as I'm shopping and then as I go up to the counter I'm like, oh, I'll just put them in my pocket. So I don't drop them and then I totally forgot I missed that on $15 worth of grocery savings because I left the coupons I had a shopping list and all the coupons and I left the coupons back on the fridge On because I didn't want to lose them. So I'll just leave them back on the fridge with the magnet I'll put them in a safe place. That's the it's the death of coupons I mean, it wasn't the end of the world because it was again all stuff I would have bought anyway. So it was just like, oh crap I went through all that trouble of making sure that I had them with me the whole time I in the way we do them is we always put the ones that expire first on top So and I missed it's like, ah, I missed out missed out um That's how they get you also sometimes people at the register are like Let me just get this coupon out of the same thing that you had at home I did the um bonds slash safe way does the monopoly Store monopoly thing where you get the pieces when you check out and you come back And all those pieces like the McDonald's monopoly can either be a winner or you go online to see if you can try again The number one item is I think I mentioned this gravy packets like a 69 cent gravy packet And remember I got I had like, you know this many And I said fine I'll finally just get like 20 packets of gravy because they're all free I go to the supermarket because the coupons are expiring at the end of the week completely out of that gravy like The entire shelf is empty. Yeah I said, well fine. I want the brown gravy out of that. I'll go with the turkey gravy out of that I had nothing nothing But that's why they issue those coupons a lot of times is to move Product yeah, I have I have six cans of tomato paste like those little cans of tomato paste because they're great I don't know what to do with them you make pasta I was thinking of making pizza like with bobbly, but I remember not liking bobbly. I'll give you my spaghetti recipe Yeah, you got a season that paste Yeah All my spaghetti sauces have a combination of tomato sauce tomato paste um You know spices and stuff garlic Yeah You know, that's the one thing I really missed about not shopping at 99 ranch Which for anyone who doesn't know 99 ranch is a I think it's still so Cal and maybe uh, western Arizona Uh supermarket. Oh no not so in Texas supermarket. That was originally focused on the asian american market, right? So we had nothing in the area too, didn't we? No, we had something like A 99 ranch. Oh no, they did it was on on the east bay. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I thought So You know and and like I guess 10 years ago got bought out by a big american Uh supermarket chain But one of the things they offer in the prototype is peeled ready to smush garlic pieces Which is great because normally when you buy garlic, they're like little onions You got to peel them and do all these are already already shucked ready to be just sell that Ralph's and Whole Foods too They were they were so cheap Oh, that's why it was like it was like a package for like 99 cents. That's pretty good. Yeah, is that where the 99 comes in? Uh things is it like 99 cent store or no? No, no, no, it's a full-fledged supermarket Except that 90 of the uh stuff they stock is asian So like instant noodles They do the standard asian american like butchery like the fish and the giant tanks So that when they butcher the fish, it's fresh and like it's still alive Uh various parts of the cow that most americans probably wouldn't eat like tripe The brain parts of the organ and stuff like that um, although they're they're At least chinese americans are big fans of the pork rinds because it's very similar to a snack that's uh Chinese snack that's very similar Where you fry except that when you fry you put your walk fry. It's not a deep fry The skin where it's crispy People love the pork rinds lechon kind of Yeah, I guess that would be lechon has more meat stuck to it. Yeah, and it's it's weird because A lot of that stuff does have the fat and other underlying tissue which most people might be put off Although I like it. That's not good for you if you eat too much Oh, but so god So hungry now I went to subway yesterday So that happened, you know ever since I ever since the hole we make made our bread out of that One ingredient that they used in exercise mats or something. I haven't gone back Yeah, I don't do it often, but I don't know. I wanted a sandwich and it was so close and it was good I think the only I'm trying to remember what I think was the meatball the meatball is the only thing I really got there that I liked So when you were saying you miss 99 ranch, you're saying you miss it before it got bought or no One of the things is that uh, no, no, what what what I miss about it is that it's very far away And it's a very infrequent shopping experience, but there's a bunch near you Yeah, like, you know 45 minutes away. It's not near but it's close. They're like in the pasadena and Down in al-monte like I know I was just at it like two weeks Oh, okay. All right too much of a drive. Gotcha. You know how it is. It's not the it's not the distance. It's the Traffic. Yeah, and there's no direct road. I guess is there and as as with all things asian american, uh, the parking lots are always packed Um, I think that you could just unlike other parking lots with los angeles there and No, no, I mean like it's always packed no matter when you go on a weekday and morning evening My statement still stands people need groceries Oh, they sell those little desserts things, you know, like the peanut like my peanut milk soup Oh, yeah, I saw your picture of that It's it's really nauseating if you think about it, but it's good for me It's soggy. It's soggy peanuts and sweetened milk I don't know if it's because we've been watching so much terrace house But Eileen went over to a mitzua marketplace this weekend and bought a bunch of groceries there So she made japanese curry and uh, I made uh, yeah, you're close to that one. Oh, yeah, it's right. It's pretty near, uh, some some ground beef and What else did she make she oh, she got these little like, uh, anchovy snacks japanese anchovies So much good stuff over there. So good It is You know, and I don't understand why They can get those great price because 99 ranch now is owned by a large American supermarket conglomerate But like strawberries I got a basket of just standard size strawberries 99 cents and they're all good Like it wasn't like all these are really bland or anything if anyone wants to know this is what milk peanut soup looks like Let's see Oh It's like some tapioca nightmare. There's no tapioca. It's literally sweet. I know it just kind of has that like Well, I'm not gonna say it's bad because I've never had it You if you like peanuts, you'll like it. I think Sort of if you like peanuts in your cereal in the morning, you'll like Is it repeat? Is it repeat that? 99 ranch is owned by Tawa supermarket incorporated a taiwanese company. Is it I remember them getting bought up by Oh No, apparently not Apparently they got bought out by Tawa supermarket company, but which is a big company Uh, point of this uh, and it maintains its own production facilities in china Uh for quality control and cost Also, you know call me a conspiracy theorist, but a bunch of strawberries that taste good for that cheap some weird They're made of people Typically on that stuff. It's because they buy what the supermarkets don't buy right. Yeah It's like overstock for well Yeah, when the supermarket goes like the the buyer goes out they go to Well, my dad used to go to you go to like a wholesaler and you say like I want 20 cases of That head of lettuce, you know five cases of these tomatoes and stuff like that, but the Vans and Safeway and Ralph's they all get like first dibs because they're like buying a lot like thousands Uh, so because 99 ranch a lot of other grocery stores are smaller. They just like well I'm gonna buy this many we'll buy all the stuff that you couldn't sell so we'll get cheaper slightly I mean they were ripe and that's the other thing like when you go go to Ralph's or you go to um Vans typically they're not ripe yet. So you can kind of they'll stay a little bit longer in your fridge But like the ones at 99 ranch were like, okay. These are ripe. You gotta eat them like in the next two days Jason Chen I gotta make myself go to 99 ranch one of these days. I love it. I don't think it was acquired in 90 1993 Uh 99 ranch invested in a chinese canadian supermarket chain called tnt supermarket along with unipresident Enterprises corporation of taiwan But it never sold itself It does franchising though Oh, you need supermarkets Interesting Yeah There you go. It's really good like themed supermarkets You know, there's met suya. There's bay cities that we went to where it's like it's all italian like it just sort of like Condenses everything so if you want to make something it's all the theme is already there Which also keeps me out of huge grocery stores where there's too much choice But like the prices are great. I mean most of it's pre-packaged stuff But even on the fresh stuff, it's pretty inexpensive. Let's say a quick goodbye to the video folks Bye See you tomorrow