 Big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this, we're gonna bring it to the table, boss talk, who your girlfriend fave, boss talk, we're gonna do it how you want it, boss talk, yeah, everybody on it, boss talk. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Miss Jamaica, what's going on? Nothing that you have, Medell. Whoa, Medell, nothing you don't, Medell. I'm here. Okay, I'm just checking, is he in the building? Check it, man, hey man, we got my bellow. What's up, what's up? It's always bellow. Always bellow. Why is it always bellow though? It's always with a Z, because the word bellow, it's a, it comes from an African language, I'm not sure. Oh, hell, he's D. He said not sure, if you have a name, you need to research to know exactly where it's from. It's near and deep. And what it means. Exactly, it means Lord's Helper, so always Lord's Helper. Boy, you got to stand on that. Oh yeah, I stand on that. You got to stand on that. I stand on that. How long have you had that name? And how long you been up in the Lord? Since, really, since I started rapping. You got to help the Lord. How old were you? Shit, it was high school, about 2010. 2010 was 21 now, 11 years ago, about 16. So did you give yourself that name or somebody gave it to you? Well, my homeboy, he rapped to, he was looking up names, you know, we was like, what we gonna call ourselves, blah, blah, blah, you know, and so he came, he came, he was like the yellow ease. He was like, I found this other one, like Sybello. Sybello, I was like, I kind of like that. You know what I'm saying? So I went with that Sybello, but then I took the sigh off. I like Sybello, because it's different. I mean, yeah, but, you know, I just went with Bello, because, you know, my dad was like, best friends with Big Mellow. So, you know, he was like, shit, why'd you just be Bello? He was like, Mellow, you know what I'm saying? Everybody used to just say, nobody used to say Sybello. They used to just be like, hey, yo, Bello, Bello. So where are you? Where are you from? You, what part of town are you from? I'm from Houston. What part? Well, shoot, born south side, you know, I'm a state of sunny side, dad's staying in Harm Clark. So, you know, out there south side, 288 both sides. So you're good with it. They say you produce a little bit. You reproduce? Yeah, I make a few beats. You make a few beats? Yeah. But did you good at it? Can you make hits? Yeah, I can make hits. I can make hits. I like chopping samples and stuff, you know. But, you know, my boy Ronnie Spencer may tell him, you know, you need to get some real instruments in there. Well, he ain't telling you the truth, you know, because at the end of the day, everything, what goes around come right back around again. So you got to be ready. You got to be able to shift. No doubt. Yeah, you got to be something where you can move in any way. You know, I always say, if you, you meet one of these professional athletes, they don't just do one thing. They do about three, four different sports. You know what I mean? You got to be able to shift. No doubt. Right? Yeah. So, so what, what's going on with you far as with your music? Because you're an artist as well. What's your latest music that you got coming out? Well, the latest, we just dropped The Young, Die Young. That's a project that's out now on all streaming platforms. You know, it's kind of like a compilation album. But, you know, I got a lot of production on there. Harvey Love got a little production on there. I got a few songs. There's just my singles on there. I got a few songs with the group that was with A&S. You know, we got a lot of music out that's on the streaming platforms and SoundCloud and whatnot. You know, so got a lot going on. And, you know, I got a project I'm working on my first, my first solo album, you know what I'm saying? Hopefully by this winter, you know, if not this winter, it's going to be sometime next year before the summer. Well, how are the visuals for it? Do you have any visuals with that project? Got a few visuals from The Young, Die Young. Well, two, one with Swanging and one with the song I got with Ronnie Spencer called All In. All In. That's the most recent one, yeah. And what was the process of going through making that? I mean, being a young man, you know, OG, a legendary Ronnie Spencer, how was that process in the music with that? Because it's like bridging the gap, you know what I'm saying? With the way he brings a legacy to it. What did you learn from the experience? Because that's our, that's knowledge right there. Oh yeah, I learned, I'm still learning from the experience because that experience has led me here, you see what I'm saying? So I'm still learning, but like initially, what I learned from that initial experience is just how professional he was, how he came, he did it. He did it in my garage. You know, he laid the vocals in my garage. We didn't come here to no grand studio or nothing, but we laid the vocals where I make my beats at. You know, he came and did that. You know, and I, the love off of that because look where he be at, you know. So he didn't have to do that, you know what I'm saying? So it's just like that. He just gave me a little game, you know, every now, every time I see him, there's some games. So I just take he, and I'm taking, I'm just taking everything in this. I can't give you one thing that I learned from that. Like you just going to have to see what I learned from that. Wow. So it motivated you. Yeah. Take you into the next level. So now that that's happened, did you, it made you take things a little more serious? Yeah, you know, because I was at the point, like I've been doing this, you know, since I was in high school, you know, it's not that I took it as serious as I did after high school and high school. But like, you know, you still put in work, you go do these little bullshit shows or whatever. And you meet whoever you meet, these BS people or whatever. Then like you, you kind of like gasped out, even though I'm still young. Everybody like, you young, you young, but I'm like, shit, I'm kind of unmotivated. You know what I'm saying? You still, you going through the motions. It's easy to say you young, you know what I'm saying? But you, they're going through the motions. You see what I'm saying? So you kind of getting tired and exhausted. You don't want to do, you trying to figure out what you can do to make you successful, you know what I'm saying? By the time you 32 or, you know what I'm saying? So it's frustrating sometime. I know that, you know, the young people don't know it, but it's the same thing that a writer go through when they have writer's block. You know, sometimes people don't make it through their artistic career, because they get frustrated because they're not moving the way they would like to move or be where they would like to be. So, you know, how important is family to you? Oh, family is the most important, you know, probably the number one, you know, the reason why I do this music stuff is because of my dad, you know. And so like my mother, she always been there for me, you know, like I have both of my parents pretty much all my life. So like they instilled family, you know, right now the family not as well put together as it was back then when great-grandparents was alive and stuff like that. But, you know, family is still... It's always the oldest one who keeps, the oldest people who keep the family together. Yeah. But y'all do know God is big enough for the job, right? You're right where you're supposed to be. No doubt. At the end of the day, God will make a granddad and make a grandmama around you if you just, you hold on to his unchanging hand. No doubt. You see what I'm saying? A lot of times we'll look at the cup half empty because mama gone and grandma might be missing or grandpa might not be there. But there's always feelings, man. I just know you always got your heavenly father as well. No doubt. So don't never think that you by yourself. Yeah, look over the shoulder. You'll see legend there running, Spencer. You'll see E.C.E.O. You'll see different people that God put in your life to fill those spaces for you. You're right. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's a dope thing, man. If you really look at it from a realistic standpoint, he got you every time. You're right. So it's a what? Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, you could. So whereas the music is concerned, did you get an earful music from your parents? I would have to say so because, you know, like just I in music, the first the first songs that I recall like reciting, you know, then you first learn and you can say the words back is like Houston songs like want to be a baller stuff like that. There's stuff that my dad was listening to and other songs that, you know, he was part of the wasness. So they had songs that are big Steve and all that that I used to sing back, you know, while I'm driving the car with them and stuff like that. So it was that then also like a East Coast, you know, my dad like East Coast music and just like Houston music. So yeah, I would have to say it came from. Okay. From you started being doing producing, what is the biggest mistake you have ever seen a producer make? Hmm. Whether it be yourself or someone else, you don't have to say who? Well, I have to say selling their self short on their product, you know, selling a beat. If you sat there, you made you made this beat. This beat took you you perfecting your craft. And this beat took you an hour, hour, 30 minutes. You shouldn't sell that beat for $40. Unless you you feel it's worth $40. That means you're selling somebody something. How much should it be like that go for? $300, you know, like if you just starting out, like somebody like me, I would sell somebody a beat for $300 exclusively, you know, that's because I don't have much credits. I can't say I did a beat for this. You know, but if I can't say I did a beat for with you, you know, I don't know, man. Like I said, you got to have self awareness, first of all. And your value can be what you want to make it to be. And you can shop it around too. You can push it out there on social media platforms for whatever I put it out there for $1,000 or $1,500. You never know what God can do with what you're doing. So I think a lot of times we just shop the wrong way. The most important thing is that you don't devalue yourself on those higher platforms where you don't know what could happen. So I shoot it out there for $1,500. You might get a call from somebody. You be like, damn, I didn't know my worth. But look, I'm worth more because most of the time people don't feel like they worthy. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Most of the time, because of what we've been through and the people we've been around, we dogged down our demeanor. And we shouldn't do that because you could be the dopest MC that I heard thus far and we never find out because you never shopping on that level. Man, push it out there for $2,000 one time. Let's see what happens. It ain't gonna hurt nothing. Yeah, straight up. It ain't gonna hurt nothing. Let's see what it do. Be shocked somebody. Somebody gonna say, man, not only that one, man, I want you to make me one once a week. You gonna be like, man, he told me that. He told me to go hard, go big, or don't even go at all just one time. And you'll be amazed at what God will do for you. No doubt. You will be totally amazed. You gotta think bigger. If you want bigger things to happen, if you want to see big things happen, then you gotta make some big changes in a major way. And in order to do that, you gotta go from selling beats for $300 to $3,000 and see what happened. No doubt. That feel good, right? Yeah. I need to know your top three artists of all time that are alive. Top three, that are alive. That's a hard question. Give me one. Number one. Number one. Your number one artist of all time. It's gonna sound like everybody else. Come on. Tupac. Tupac was a realist. I see devil rock. Thug nigga too. We die. Yeah. Number two. If I had to give you another one, I'm gonna say I'm gonna give you Kanye West. And for number three. Number three. Number three. I guess just because it's like recent Nipsey Hussle. Nipsey Hussle. What about mode three? You know, I didn't get into him. You never was into him. They got it just left for you. You know, he did that outside. Yeah, I didn't get into him. You know, peace be upon him, but I didn't get into him till after his death. Wow. You know, I'm still not just all the way into him, but my partner, you know. What do you think about that guy getting killed like that in the middle of the highway? I'm gonna say 35 like that at 1155 in the middle of the day. Man, that's like a like a movie scene. In the movie. Never had nothing to happen like that. Well, how did, what did they do this at? Back in the days, Wild Wild West. Shooting in the middle of the street. That's wild. It's like a movie scene. And you know, I don't know what the brother was going through and you know, what was going on. But yeah. Do you feel like, see, because I met Nipzels. You sang out in Cali, or I seen him in Vegas. And dope dudes, man. Never met mode three. But do you believe in Illuminati? Do you think people are being sacrificed to grow? Sell your soul type of thing? Yeah. How you do? I'm not going to say in the direct sense of Illuminati, but yeah. You know, Illuminati is the cover up. That's the key. That's the cold word. Or what is the word? The word is the shape of the higher powers. You know what I'm saying? Because it ain't no Illuminati. They're going to pitch it to your Illuminati or all these symbols like it's Jay-Z in them, but it's bigger than them. Wow. Speaking of Jay-Z, do you listen to Jay-Z? Oh, yeah. That's one of your top artists? Yeah. You know, I got a lot of inspiration from Hope. I got some. That wasn't one of his top and his top three, though. It wasn't in my top three. No, it is. And my top three is also all for morality to me. Okay. So that's what they stand on. Who? Pimp C. Damn. He didn't use tonight. I hadn't got a Pimp C. He was not in. I got UGK earlier. Yeah, I did. Not in his top three. And the Pimp is one of the coldest, the realest. I'm in Ace Town right now. Let's go and let me let y'all hear it for real. Pimp C cannot be duplicated. There is no, we'll never be another person to stand up for the South like he did. So I don't care if nobody don't pick him. You ain't got to. And what's already understood don't even have to be said. We know that he stood for us in a way he went out, you know, swinging for the South. If it wasn't for the things that he stood for, we would be looking real crazy down here. No doubt. Yeah, he was, he mended relationship before he died. He, it wouldn't be no, it wouldn't be no slim thug and zero right now friendship. Yeah, it's some things that he did. Yeah, he also spoke on, I believe, T.I. and Lil Flip that made things come together in a way to where they can't sleep at night and not think about Pimp C said we need to get our stuff together because he influenced both of our careers. Not only him, we can keep going. Jay-Z and him even had to respect us on another level because Pimp C wasn't just going to let you take and do him any kind of way. So when you look at these guys, this patriarch, Pimp C, and you say his name, you should pretty much just have a moment of silence because for the simple fact that because of the way he did in the South, if it wasn't out for him, there was a lot of things that people wouldn't respect us on a level that they respect us on right now today. Man, I agree. That was good stuff right there. Right here in H-town. I agree because my top three, you know, it also can't, you know, because I could just spur it off. I just give you, like, what comes to my head first, really. Oh, really? Man, I tell you, I gave you that spill because, you know, it needed to be said. Do you know what I'm talking about? So when you think about the way that the South is looked at from these these these these BLAD TVs, the the different people that you see on these platforms, do you feel like they respect the South? Breakfast Club, Hot 9-7. I don't I don't think they respect it 100%. You know, not really because they kind of keep it in the box. You know, as far as like the the slab culture and all the the lean and everything like that to drink. Do you do what about the what about the mumble wrap thing? Do you think that was something that was a legitimate way to speak on Southern hip hop? Or do you think that the mumble wrap thing was a shot at Southern artists? I don't take it as a shot because I don't do that. But I can see why people would say that. But at the same time, I'm like, you can't you can't throw out the baby with the bath water. You know what I'm saying? Because just because let me just start doing that up over there in Atlanta or wherever. We ain't start doing that down here because I don't hear it's some artists down here that do that. But I don't hear a lot of artists out here in Houston. Me personally, that's on some mumble wrap. Well, we call it mumble wrap now. But but before that, BZ would would never play Pimp C them records. But but Pimp C said our records always go go. We always sell out. Yeah. So they was they they was doing it then. And it was it was a black it was a black listed type deal, man. So when I look at it and I see how they done it, I'm just like, OK, but they was doing it then. These are elevated ways that they do it through saying, hey, that's mumble wrap. We they still are selling them. Yeah. The mumble wrappers are selling them. You can't sell me goes. You can't do it. And the song sound better in the club. That's true. That's true. But that's because of where the state of hip hop is in, too. And that's also is not completely controlled by us. You see, I'm saying that goes to what hit on to the Illuminati thing. You see, it's not the Illuminati. You seem saying it's the powers that be. It's the people who really control in the industry because you you don't have me and you owning the stuff that makes stuff move in the industry. You know, I'm stuff, you know, I'm saying, I'm talking about they can break an artist overnight that nobody never heard of. That's on that mumble wrap stuff because they got the tools to do that. Yeah. But whose fault is that? Let's be real about it. That I think that's I think that's somewhat our fault because we have pioneers that are billionaires like the Kanye West is like the Jay Z's, like the Puff Daddies who are like the Dr. Drays. And these guys are not willing to come together as forces and create something for for for hip hop in a way to where we could cultivate it. Because at the end of the day, they still got money enough to do it, but they not doing it because they care more about themselves than they do about the culture. And they're gatekeepers. Well, you call them gatekeepers, but I'm telling you what they ain't going to do is spend money together and try to help the culture. Because they can't. Why? They got a boss. Who is a boss? Illuminati. Well, I get it. I just don't know about the Illuminati. White people don't talk about Illuminati. You haven't noticed it. Because to them, it ain't no Illuminati. They spend no Illuminati amongst them. Only ones speak about Illuminati. It's just Jews and Europeans and stuff. So they don't care about the Illuminati. You take that what you will. They just getting money. They getting money. Yeah, they getting it. They getting it all right. I'll fall back. Well, I think that's a lot of our own fault as well. No, I definitely agree with you. So how can people get a hold of you? I don't know what a conversation with you. I'm on Instagram. I'm on Twitter. I'm on Facebook. And always bellow. There's always bellow with a Z. Always with a Z, B-E-L-L-O. You know, that's how you get in touch with me. You know, anywhere like that. And like I say, the music is on all streaming platforms. Got a project called Goodfellas. And a project called The Young Guy Young. I'm now on all streaming platforms. And I got music with my group A&S. Always into some survival tactics. Other projects on all streaming platforms right now. So y'all go tap in. Hey, man, check it, man. We love you, brother. All ready. We love you, too. Hey, man, bellow. Always bellow, man. It's been a pleasure, man. And that's another great segment of Boss Talk 101. Here we are.