 Welcome to the 1878 FM podcast episode four episode four on a Week where there was no no Premially no real football. I'm gonna call it real football. There was football. Yeah, there's football That means one of our places out for five weeks. Let's let's let's first of all, good morning gentlemen Oh, good afternoon gentlemen. How are we? Hey? Hey? Hey good Good. Thank you. Good. Good. Good. Excellent. Let's go back to that Cause I'd said this to you the other day you defocussed that game. You did you put some International hex no, there's no such thing as cases. I don't know because you've never ever said to me before yeah a game It's in VM tonight. No, but never ever in your life. And I was then you started me thinking oh Yeah, they're up again. I'm mad and then low and be old I get sent I'm not disinterested in international football by the finals I was watching something Else and I got a text message from three different people going well two of them are pitchers of Paterson on a stretcher and I was just like Damn you ped Why is it my fault? I think my attention I think we all take collective responsibility for this because actually Nathan Patterson has been a talking point for all of us For the last three episodes and we've all been saying how good it is to see him playing so well And isn't he what we're all about and and then suddenly bang I've heard four weeks today. I don't want to split hairs on four or five. It was six weeks originally I've heard for today. I don't know ever ever He just slipped over. Yeah No, he basically was chasing back and he slipped over and he's gone on his ankle and the club have said four to five weeks So so we'll see you boxing day. No, we won You told me boxing day and I said that he will be back before the breaks run right and he will get you in here though What why can't we have nice things? It's almost like if you say it out loud, they write it down on like a list and go right Let's screw it up I wonder if we should just talk about anything to be honest with you or just you know talk about players We want to shift out the scene slightly. I mean it's all run done. Oh, it's got a lot of gold Last night Power pace precision the was everything's got everything the pace bit He moved But the finish no, no, no, no, no what you don't understand about Rondon is the mate is moving so fast The human eye can't see the human eye can't see it's a brilliant finish. Honestly. He's he's Neil. It's Neil He took his goal very well fair play. I mean there was no one in the stadium. I thought it was knocked down again No one there, but it was a lovely finish. It was a lovely finish and just back on Patterson Oh, everything I've said today between four and five weeks. So I guess that That's better than what it could have been and Dave that's I guess that's probably the way to look at it Isn't it really could have been much worse? Yeah, it could have been worse could still be worse You know, that's the other thing we have to bear in mind Same four or five as as pet saying, you know, it could be boxing day. It could be somewhere in between. Let's face it Let's just hope he's he's back Sooner rather than later and let's also just hope that it's not one of those niggly injuries It then ends up coming back and back and back and whatever. I'm hoping it's not as bad as we fear But yeah, it's just just sort of slow though, isn't it? You know having having Talked about how good it's been watching him and then suddenly he's out Where where does that leave us right back wise then what we what are we going to be doing now? Sheamus, isn't it? Got to be. Yeah. Sheamus Coleman, I'd say And I think I don't know about you Andy, but I know listen I've heard Dave we've we've talked about this as well before and I think there is there's a little bit of There's there's a little bit of reaction that I've seen that has gone like too far the other way with Sheamus Coleman as well Some people talking about him as if he's Genuinely one of the worst footballers around and it's just simply not the case He's nothing. He's not fantastic serving to this this football club Exactly. And he's you know what Dave and or Andy as well In like five or six games then blocks He can be he can be really important forever in that time and and while Patterson gets back it It's not like we haven't got a long term person in place But some people do rewrite history and talk about as if he's literally that's it now There's no hope and Andy's been he has been a tremendous player forever and hasn't he? Oh, I mean I love him and he's you know you look for those players on the pitch that in those dark times when we used to be Petrified of everyone and roll over and just lose The the the fume from Sheamus at right back was one of the few things that was a real connection with the crowd He was he was as pissed off as they were playing as we were which was good to see But um, I just you know, I like players going out on a bit of a high and I don't want him to You know have maybe a latter stage of his career where you know There's a couple of mistakes the derby and all that kind of stuff where he's just short for pace and not quite there And I want him I just want him to go out on a high. So obviously, you know, he's covering an injury at the moment Which is fine, but um, I just think we need to be aware of where he is in the The trajectory of his career If you catch my drift, what's the time scale on Ben Godfrey, by the way, I can't remember because he's another option day Boxing day, okay What a squad we're gonna have on boxing day I was that's exactly why I asked the question because I thought well Maybe maybe this could be potential for god godfrey to do a bit of cover On that side or something. Well, I think yerry mean is due back in the next 10 days So that's another center back, but I think shame is common. It makes sense and I'm just looking there. There's I think in the next five weeks. There's A game every weekend and one midweek game against new castle. So I think he should be able to cope with that the new castle game You know being midweek and stuff might be an issue the backup now would be I would imagine um, you've got stanley mills, but then you've got Would make some hallgate be back and not sure You don't really want to change things around too much. That's you know, we've heard people say, oh, well We write back and then put put james garner me feels like no don't start messing with the whole let me see this would Do you think shame is might benefit though? I know last season listening played the last few games with an injury Which is just a measure of him, isn't it? You know when he was struggling through them, but we had no one else We played but it Would he be better? Do you think now being alongside connor codians? I know no because I don't want to go back to the three I don't want to start no no no no sorry in the four just right now I mean as the cover would we see better performance as you think I think he's really good one He's a decent right back and he's got all the experience our game will have to slightly change. Um But it's a good point though You think about the the spread of fear if you've got keen In the center mucking up and all that kind of stuff in holgate the way that the mistakes that those two were putting in between them That that spreads fear across the whole team I imagine he might perform differently in a back four, you know, we've got that kind of Tarkovsky and kodi steel in the center. Is it is a different? It's a different performance of a back line now that we've had in in ages really That point's really good though because don't forget. I mean you've said it a million times Dave's I've heard Dave saying it as well We've all probably said it but michael keen Sometimes does need kind of like coax and did need like coaxing through games last season And it was colman having to do it whereas now he ain't gonna have to coax kona kodi or james are Just do it. I don't I don't think there's any doubt that shameless is is the Is the best option that we have available with paterson out I think my only concern is just the fact that obviously with his age and with his injury record Is the fact that if he if he can't maintain his fitness for the period of time that we're talking about that paterson is out Then that concern because then we do have to start titting around with with different things and playing players out of position I think I think a lot's changed though from last season. That's neat. I mean, you know, we let's let's not forget This is a a man who played the majority of last season. You know, you know, we we didn't have We didn't have paterson available for for the period So I see he played instead of paterson when paterson first came This is a guy who played you're right. He played in a dreadful back four now that back four has been and under pressure Yeah, I've been yeah, there's more confidence. There's a better midfield as well to cover him. So for me He's an ideal player to have This is why you have them. This is why you have, you know, two players for every position You know, whether the you have players who are younger playing and they have seen your backups Like Coleman or the opposite way round and I think for that time he'll be he'll be fine. Evan have just got a new Head of head of performance and fitness you keep an eye on him. You're watching you you tell him not to do too much He didn't play for island Need the game bar 15 minutes. I think in one of the games I'd like would but I would have liked to see him just a little bit more Dave just to just to you know, get up to speed a little bit, but he's fitting and he'll go in on saturday And I'm sure he'll do fine. It's not quite the same but These are the issues that you're always going to face until you've got a squad like Manchester city or Liverpool or whatever you're always going you're gonna have to rely on your squad This is when this is why I always have to reaffirm to evertonians when they say watch your best 11 There's no such thing as a best 11. They just isn't we've had We've had eight injuries already the season seven games old Yeah, we've had eight injuries of players who all would play in our 30 and they're all out and that's life No, they're not yours. Just patting these the only one I've seen on you Um, we'll come we'll come back to obviously we'll come back to like around the game when we do The quick review self-answer but Anthony Gordon had an assist last night for the 21s and James Garner done 70 odd minutes and Hit the bar and and apparently played really well and he was he played in the number six Also, he's someone who obviously Anthony Gordon's on four yellow cards as well He remember so he's won a wife bucking away from a suspension which I and Matthew would see Alexi will be pushed higher up in Garner in but That's that's good for him to get minutes under his belt, isn't it forever? Yeah Nice one. Great insight there I've been looking forward to it. I've been looking forward to seeing Garner Is he gonna get on or whatever because he's he's one of those things when we do Obviously, we had a pretty hectic Preseason with the transfer window. We've got in a load of players and it was like it was a great feeling And then it was almost like the guy that you got two for one. You kind of forgot about Yeah, it's probably and it's been good. It's good because he's kind of how often do you get a few for one With a guy that you forget about deal Yeah, it would be yeah multi buy On the Garner and different spellings What would he be in the meal deal? Would he be a pack of Chris ball? Would you what is the chocolate? See, would you get a chocolate bar meal deal? There'd be that. Um, what's that that stuff that you put butter on? Toast weird bread It's like it's got like raisins in it and you get it Oh like a sort of malt loafy thing No, it's not what did they call it? What do they call it? What do they call it? It begins at S So it's like a scandy thing, isn't it? Oh Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. We can't carry off. We can't carry on until we nail this That's fine. That's fine. You find it, but I'm not having some malt loaf. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on We're gonna have to find this because this is gonna be sorry Sorry, that's like a malt loaf. You can't eat. That's what it is. He's not coming. That's not James Garner I never said he was Dave said he was it was Andy All right Who claimed it was an Andy or Dave and listen only brought this up He said what do you put butter on? We said bread he then goes malt loaf I'm going I think he's a pack of the McCoys beefy McCoys. That's what I'm going with It isn't he more of a surprise though. He's not a kind of surprise. That's too much He's not that drinking flodder isn't it? Mystery drink we've all passed this drink shop and it said five dollars mystery drink Like you're buying a mystery drink. I don't want a mystery drink if I'm paying five dollars I want to know what I'm paying for you're not giving me A cup of gravy is something called gravy and go well. We said it was a mystery now mate You're taking me money. You want to know what I'm drinking Hey on the subject of food Have you guys had any had any steer what the kind of food offering is going to be like at the new stadium? Because obviously we're all used to the normal better than we have now Isn't it awful at the moment? Do you know what I mean? So what if you had any like intel on that? There's gonna be Well, when we've we have that pet as this is one of pet's Questions every whenever we got to the school. So he did bring it round to food and stuff But there was that you did with like I'll be gonna have independent like No, you were looking for like the the intricacies of food options, of course Nothing wrong with that. It's a big part of the first stadium. It's the Tottenham stadium It's an unbelievable, you know, culinary delight. You know what I mean? Yeah So we I feel like we deserve a bit of that having had the old Pints of you know, freezing cold pints of Chang that make you piss yourself and stuff like that in those pies. So I think you're I think you're the kind of man who's not been to watch a football match at the Tottenham hot spare stadium But more of the NFL. I think you've I was watching NFL eating seven pound hot dogs. That's what I was doing. There you go. I mean I was in I was in the new camp yesterday. Where's you? Yeah? Yeah Why I'm looking and thinking A hot dog or a sausage roll in a bag in the upper bullens And they don't have marshmallows all the time and there it was like, oh get like a cheese and ham baguette It was all this like amazing color Cheese and ham You made that out like it was some kind of delicacy finish. There was loads of stuff in the co-op No Like they say it was better It was better There was on how did he say it? Cheese and ham on Baguette Let's cabri cabri springes Let's cabri springes There was there was like little pots or pot. There was all sorts. I'm thinking You know, you have a capri sun as well, but you know, that's like, you know, what? Do you know that or other stadiums? That's just standard fare. Sony delight. It's just so bad We were about America though when you went we were over there like the different There's just like Mexican food this food in each stall as you walk down We were in the media. We've got three hot dogs Do you know why though boys and that's first because and this is a sweeping statement and sort of cover your ears Andy, but in my opinion American food is more interesting than American sport What about that from vitty It's big, but I'm going there I think it's though. He's stuck his chest out when he said it and I'm having that he's claimed that he's owned it He's owned it Again, this is a sweeping statement, but for the most part Andy Bush, I think American sport is shit Oh, my that is this that is a big statement To be fair, to be fair, we watched Evan in America and it was shit and that was You know, maybe it's just you know, I enjoy the other teams playing Minnesota like I was quite happy. Yeah, I'm not really into it See my idea is like having watched Evan for so long Why on earth would I want to put myself through the heartache of supporting another shy team in a different sport? You know what I mean? I feel everton everton the darker times as everton has pushed me into the the bosom the embrace of NFL and baseball and all that and I like having a team to support I'll just watch anything. Do you know what I mean? I was gonna say it's not it's good not to have an allegiance For the team. I've got to pause you there for baseball. I'm not having that We sat the no the problem with American sport is great in my opinion There's too many we sat in that when we were in a bar in Washington. Yeah There was a sports bar. There was a telly. How many telly's are there? They all had a different sport How can you sit there and have a mind and watch 14 different sports at 162 games in a regular baseball? Yeah, that's insane me Imagine if we had to do like a fan tv channel for a baseball team Final word every day every single day the basketball I went Do you see I went to watch the basketball of Madison square gardens clang With puff daddy clang He wasn't there at the time although that was who was safe. You know who I was with actually interestingly I was with gordon smart. You know the journalist. Oh, yeah the uh From this no I know the name. Yeah. Yeah, that's it I thought you would like puff daddy on nas or someone. Yeah, you know No, it was the same trip No, but anyway, the point of all is is I'll agree with you on that point of that was is it in four quarters? Is that right? Anyway, I left I left I left after two of them We'll just go back and get lasties because we had an early start the next day Basketball is like this as far as I'm concerned I think whoever is in the league is just they go up down each end and score Whoever is down the other person's end when the buzzer goes off at the end of the game wins I think that's what it is Next goal the winner it is literally always next goal the winner No, we we soon some amazing stadiums why we're in the state again But none of them would let us in no oddly enough you you were there them for those I mean, I watched those friendlies on telly and they're some of the worst games of football I've ever seen my entire life the american ones, but the hot dogs were amazing In the media. They were free and I Minnesota don't scout suddenly because Eric dakey who's uh the chief press officer the chief press officer at minnesota United This media fella he's big ever thrown in american big ever thrown in and obviously Um, because we were going over the They'd made sure there was scouts in the press What a kind of scouts Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was quite nice actually It was quite nice I never had any but no you did I thought they were they were good minnesota They were good It was a good it was a good time The winning the NT's got them winning obviously I've watched quite a lot of them because of NT like and um They're doing really well Hmm doing really well But I think uh, let's just I think we should move on because uh, it was Our oppo's birthday on monday ned. It was his birthday I just wanted you to your two views on on the best and worst birthday experience Because I just I just wanted to explain what ned did for his birthday. She was 22 22 got the world at his feet Uh, not quite like 10 years younger than us andy bush. I know that's unbelievable, isn't it? He's got nearly got the world at his feet. He's ginger. So that that's an issue Um, but this lad is of he's from st. Helens. He's got liver pearl. He's got manchester He's got newton la willows warrington all these amazing places you can go to He went on a night out with his mates to ashton Which in makerfield underline now asthen in makerfield Not even the best So he went there for a night out on saty. Um, it's in itself is weird. Yeah. Yeah It's like if you were it's like if you if you're going out on a body part He was effectively going to the armpit. Um, okay, right you so he went out He had a good time. I thought that was better than what I thought you were going But then he got up on so he got in at three o'clock in the morning and he got up on sunday and he went to chester zoo Still still half cut with his mates and a couple of other people All looked bladdered and he walked around chester zoo to laugh for and his biggest criticism of the day was This is what he told me. This is what he told me. He said that the other three The three guests he was with would not wear animal masks Like they went on some kind of channel for dogging show, right? They would not wear animal masks to walk around all the dogging shows are we like Can anyone talk that for it for a birthday experience Going out in ashton and then the following day going to chester zoo Like I'll go first now That isn't that's an incredible night out for a 22 year old I'd rather go watch baseball Yeah, I'll be with you Dave. I'll be with you honestly So if we got can we weird that is for the the animals as well then they're in cages and they're looking out at people Humans with masks on dressed a little bit like them. That's quite weird. That's quite dark Imagine being in a zoo and seeing the tigers and they've got human masks on I mean that would be weird, wouldn't it weird to feel like that was weird I'd feel like something's going on here. Someone's black in here. There's not a real tiger there or It's like an apex apex twin video or something, isn't it? That's strange So go on then. What are you? What are you? So what is it best and where? Well, just I'm just wondering what your best birthday or weirdest birthday experience is just just night out experience because birthdays I find they're quite tricky now There's so much pressure on them people want to make your birthday a big thing way most of the time You just want to do nothing or you feel compelled to do something you don't want to do because people are putting pressure Because it's your birthday I'm just wondering what's that if anyone's got any great birthday experiences or some terrible birthday experiences My weirdest birthday experience of recent time was about four years ago And I spent my actual birthday right not my kind of nearly birthday Because you get like nearly birthdays. You're a bit like oh, I'm selling my birthday on Saturday Well, when is it Tuesday? No, you know, like, yeah This is like an actual birthday right and I was working and I was filming And I spent my actual birthday, which I think was a wednesday night In uh, indian restaurant in illford in east london with gas top off the 80s Wow There's a kank that is a kank Pick that one up because the thing was we were making this car film all about Ford cortinas and retro motors and stuff and gases bang into his old forge, right? So he was presenting it for us and we were on location in east london as you do And so that was how I spent my actual birthday. There was myself and my best friend matty was a camera man And gas top from the 80s. We went to an irish bar. We had a couple of pints again It got a bit nasty in there actually at one point. I thought we might have got beaten up And then we went to gilbert jayland around the corner. Did he bring gilbert wasn't there? No No, just gas top that is very much in 80s. Maybe 90s if it kicked off, do you think gas top could have handled himself in the pub? I don't know. I think he's more of a he's more of a lover than a fighter I think he's gas top. I think I'm thinking Knife in the boot Knife in a cowboy boot And the pen knife I saw gas top on on the last time I went to anglesey was presenting a show in in wet But it was in welsh And you know, do you ever do you ever do that though when you're like when you're in welsh? I don't go to wales and present a well But you sit down and you start watching the show and you try and figure out what it's about because it's in a different language I've watched this is got nothing to do with that but I've watched when I was in Spain I watched Oh, you've been to Spain? It was called gold this sports channel Three hours, it was just on because I was just laying there messing with my phone and my mrs and zacharishly They were going back over the Spain game and it was like for three hours And I was just that there on in the background and I was clear what they were saying just to have them again and understand the player who they were talking about So just talking about the Football and tv that kind of thing who who's getting the all-or-nothing documentary? That's a good question I saw someone was linked with it Someone was linked to me. Yeah, like the breaking news latest three teams This guy I've got to just scroll and break in you. Um, but they'd have to be there though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I've been what I thought we'd have been we'd have been a few in We'll be I think we'll be it next year. Well, you wouldn't let them in I think we'll get off with it See I've been watching the rex someone and the rex someone's fantastic and I know there was some criticism. Yes, the offer absolutely awful journalist Saying that it was all it was all stage, but the rex someone's fantastic. Ryan Reynolds is just he's just a genius Still is still an unbelievable story. Isn't it that I mean, you know, honestly You couldn't write that and every time I see something on rex someone you kind of go really they've got hollywood Celebrity owners is just like something else. I have a weird film Yeah, and the the documentary is amazing because it's it's mostly about the fans and then they just pop in now and again Ryan Reynolds and so to give her that little bit of quality It's just genius and the numbers you were attached to what they sold in the club shop be cut off the back of it and then yesterday Ryan Reynolds announced that there's going to be a Deadpool 3 and Wolverine's going to be in it And he's sitting in an Erexham hat and it's like that video is going to be huge And he's sitting in a rexham hat. It's just like these like I want to be owned by Ryan Reynolds Well, here we go. We've got sliced alone. That's it Years ago. Yeah Probably forgot about that. What a story though. That is amazing, isn't it? I mean, I you know, you look a I put the Arsenal one on it last the 15 minutes. That's the same enough. I can't I can't abide them Just off that very quickly because I know because he is a little bit mad on that But you will not have seen this. I don't think you'll have seen this, but I don't know whether the guys have seen it Tony Adams on Strictly Come Dancing Yeah, I saw it. Yeah, what unbelievable You've seen a picture he had of Adams on the back of the show It started off with Pet your boys who retained up the music ended up being one nil to the Arsenal Honest to God the steps he was doing made the ass look look Unbelievable like he you know, you remember he reminded me of the ass running around the center circle when he was announced But he started doing remember when he did the dance when he was doing the when he was managing in spain and he was doing the coaching Oh, yeah. Yeah. He integrated that to his dance. What he would do because that's his favourite Forget about scoring volleys against Everton on the last day. Just I think he's achieved a huge amount in his career Tony Adams, but I'm not sure how long he's going to last Come dancing. It doesn't look good. Does it the signs don't look good? Signs don't look good for me. The Arsenal fans are gonna have to put their hand in the pot The Arsenal fans might keep them in there. Well, that's I mean, I believe I've I've tried to watch it a few times over the years. I've got through true dancers and saying they're off He is too more room dancing what I am to ice skating See, I do watch that show and you should be back on it, but they have another go over Incidentally, I've just I've just sent you that picture. I've just seen it of the 80s I've just seen it What I would say is that to be fair the only person who's had real success from the ice skating is Kevin Kilban He's had the great He's done well out And he's got his Yeah, he's got a new girl He got the series. He got the tour. He got the new girl. Well wife now wife and and the hello shoot Move to Canada move to big killer is killing it Well is killing it isn't I think we should move on to well. I just what I'm I I want to know Andy's days done It's weirdest night Andy. Andy. Just stay quiet. Yeah Well, I'm not a fan of birthday parties. Okay. I hate it being my own birthday. Yeah, is that yeah No, I don't I can't wait till mine's done. I literally can't wait until the clock goes midnight and I think It's done for the year. I can't stand it. I can't stand having a reply to messages with people being nice on Facebook I can't stand that. I can't stand the this this weird thing now where if you work in an office It's incumbent on you to bring in flapjacks for other people I've always had to feel that way now Always bring cakes on your birthday Was in an office not that she's any more my birthday. Yeah, she'd be like, I've got to take this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah What are you talking about? You always used to have to do it. Yeah, and if that's the case Ned, where's the cakes? Yeah, no The fella that squeaks as he walks. He's not turning up with a load of cakes Yeah, I don't like it. I'm yeah that I'm going to new york this year for my birthday Wow There is it. Yeah, I said wow till the pound dropped on slide. He'll go back up He'll be fine and decent It is mad isn't it because there is that pressure that other people like my missus is only just after a million years being together There is only just kind of realize that things like father's day She just now goes you just you just want to not do anything you do you do whatever you want You know we'll just bring your cups of tea and do all that and it's great And you know whatever but there is that pressure that other people put on you isn't it and it's just like it's my birthday If I really want to do something I'll say she's gonna do this But anyway, anyway, let's move on Ever now back in action this weekend Southampton away not really a happy hunt two wins and ten years. There you go. So that underlines my point It is not a happy crime um But we are looking we are looking more solid and now I've been leading the stats and We're doing better defensively than we probably should be with the chances of giving up But we are looking quite solid southampton are strange side because they are strange Ralph still got a job. I'll never know two years on the run. You get done nine nil. I don't know how you keep the job Um once maybe but twice But what they've done is they've made a very conscious decision to buy young players this season and you know players from man's city and Things like that and they've gone in a different direction. You've obviously got world prize is always a threat But and there is a It is a very tough game. This isn't it coming back after the break tricky game forever It is and it's annoying. I think we talked about this in the last episode that um the break normally we're dying for the International break. Can't we just have a little bit of a bit of respite? But we we've you know, we we it was a good vibe at the club We're playing well good performances. You could see that kind of steady increase and we were heading in the right direction And actually the the break was probably bad timing for ever to lend paterson when he got injured Slip on his ass and all that kind of stuff as well. So I don't know I think we're gonna have to get to a point where I spent I spent the entirety of last season just Shitting it about who we're playing next and what they're gonna do to us And I think at some point they've got to step out and start trying to impose themselves And yeah, we've got a bit of confidence that we can go there and we can we can win that rather than just like Almost bracing yourself impacts, which is what you get used to after last season as an ebbson fans So I don't know the because we were bad away from home and stuff, you know last year I just think we would need to start getting a bit of having that confidence It'll be nice to go into you know, obviously I work with two arsenal fans on the show and they just They're unencumbered by The worry of whether they're going to be You know trounced at any point or make a fool, you know Be made a fool fool of or anything and I just love for us to get to that point where You're going into these games with a bit more confidence and we should we should be beating Southampton, shouldn't we? Do you know what I mean? We should be beating Southampton, Dave I'm not concerned about it and it's like just to be honest with you not not in the current climate I mean it was a it was a fixture that That would have concerned me because they are tricky opposition But at the moment in terms of the way we're playing just now in the last few games is that I think we're solid and I'm not I'm not worried about going there And I think we're a match for anybody and we're certainly a match for them in terms of Ralph Harzenhutl that you mentioned him before but I'm actually quite pleased Genuinely that they haven't got rid of him and for that I mean the fact that I think he's a decent manager I think he's got a lot about him and the fact that he's been on the end of two nine nil thumbpings Yeah, most clubs would have actually got rid of him after one or certainly two of them But I think actually fair play to Southampton for In my opinion seeing beyond that and realizing that one horrific result does not make a bad manager You know and they've actually stuck with him and they actually look at it a long term and I think personally I think that you know more clubs should do that. I mean look at what Watford have just done with rob Edwards after bloody 10 league games I mean, it's absolutely ludicrous. Yeah, they love it. Can't they now Watford? Watford love it. Don't they really love changing around Japan? It's like a sacrifice, like a blood second, isn't it? I don't know who too, but no, well the Pozos Obviously like Dave just said there And Andy was kind of touching on like all we've thought in the past But it isn't it is kind of a new season. There is a new stealing. It's a bad event And there is we are six games unbeaten. We are looking a lot tighter And Southampton, they're not Manchester City, are they? So, you know, Everton, can we follow up with them away? It would be great to get that first away even out the way as well And then you've done that you've won a game and you've won an away game and it builds It's always difficult being away. It's not an international break You get your players back quite late if you've had loads. I mean, we haven't had loads away That's an important thing And the ones who have gone away haven't really played that much so It's a difficult one when when you look at it now because you don't get too much with time to put To put the plan together and work on it And as I said, we always find these quite tricky but they've lost the last two So we should go there confident. We actually started really well against them last season and then Just threw it all away and I think the start will be important this year We keep it tight. Don't let them get any kind of head of steam early on And get that feeling back together because it can be a little bit It can be a little bit When you you know if you come back from international can be a bit of a slow start That's when mistakes are more likely to happen So get through the first 20 minutes and then grow into the game and then I'm sure opportunities will present itself They're quite a young and naive team. They they're a bit, you know You know, you've seen that from the results so far The they they expect to stay up But you know that they've got a young team and and it'll take time for them to grow together and We've got to exploit that because we've got a lot of experience in our in our squad now and The likes of Conor Cody in the back and James Tarkowski and Seamus Coleman have got a martial list side and Give confidence for those other lads and if we we can keep Tight at the back again That gives everyone there more confidence to take More risks and more chances and not snatch your chances when they come as well And know that we're going to keep a clean sheet at the other end So the longer we can do that keep that will keep the conference going And then do you think um Calvary Louie will be back? Will we have a cover there? Maybe maybe I don't I think we might have That sounded like you knew something there Dave. I don't know that at all. It's just my gut feeling. I don't think he will be back But it's I would like to be proven wrong. It is becoming a worry. We said this we said this actually Preseasonally and during towards the end of the window is that I think Everton I've got to start planning for life after Dominic Carvalho one way or another without a doubt I mean, we can't be hanging our hopes on him at all, you know And that's why for me it was so important, you know, yes, we've got mopey in but we need more than that You know, but I do I do think he'll be on the bench I do think hopefully if he's recovered from the groin injury then he'll be on the bench But that's his problem now, isn't it? He seems every time he feels something He doesn't want to play this was something I played less fair than I'm a less fair than and obviously we do but less fair than What a striker he was but he got into his I remember listening to Alan Shearer talking about and he said he He ended up getting into his own head. So he'd feel something where Shearer would just play with it. Sahar was like that I believe he's Sahar whoever and that was exactly the same. You'd feel a little twinge and go I'm not whisking it because I don't want to be out for four months Pet, I'm going to give you a wager here actually by way of kind of In terms of the salemton game and I'm going to say that Dominic will not feature in any way shape or form in that game And if I am if I am if I am wrong No, if I'm right if I'm right, then you have to bring in your air fryer. I knew you were going to say that I I blame I blame you two for the fact that I haven't brought my air fryer today with the rescheduling of the show Because because I had to come in earlier. Yeah, my my missus would not be wouldn't have been able to have a toasty If I had the lefty, you know, I've left the whole face of a toasty. We normally record. No, no, we don't That a little bit 15 minutes. Yeah, it's the it's the it's the sweet spot Honestly, it's the sweet. It's the toasty It's the sweet spot All right, well if Dominic is not involved then yeah, that's on how bring you out. What does Dave have to do if he is? Or I'll have a think hey, listen, I tell you what I'll do I will and I will put this on record now right because I'm not I'm not scared of a bet If I lose this I will bring To this podcast record My George Foreman Now we're talking There you go, you can't say fairer than that. You're not just gonna bring it and put it there and go There's me George Foreman. You're gonna actually produce You know as I tell you what I I will I will do my lunch live on this podcast next week on the George Foreman I I just wanted an EFL shit, but you know This is amazing. This is amazing. There you go. There you go. A live cook off a cook off cook off If you brought one in UV Dave, how could you could you do the same merely to make it quicker the air fryer or the I don't know if that would work as a podcast Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. But my my my lunch is gonna be largely Ham and cheese base. Sorry bez. I'll I'll I'll translate that for you go on Ham on and um queso Yeah, what I'm basing mine on the getaway. Yeah, yeah, yeah On a lap or are the other are the other half live? Are the other half live? There was better. There was paella stuff as well. There was better stuff. All right. You've been to Spain labouring the point I can't wait to get back to go this and have that god. I don't even need to trot the trolls in the back Anyway, we are gonna finish now because these two gentlemen have got other more important things To do this and we have so big thanks again Um, we will be back next week. Take it easy. Thanks for watching and listening. We'll see you later. Bye