 Good evening. I'm going to call to order the meeting of Monday September 9 2019. Our town manager will be joining us briefly and as indicated, we can start the meeting before his return of perfect timing. First, I'd like to introduce myself. I'm Diana Mahan, chair of the select board. To my far right is John Hurd. Joe Curell. Dan Dunn. Steve DeCorsi. Adam Chapterling. Town manager. Doug Heim. Town council. Greg Kripalk. Administrator. And welcome everyone. Our first item on the agenda is the consent agenda minutes of meeting August 12 2019 for approval heat smart lawn signs through 9 30 19 request for a special one day beer and wine license. 9 2019 at Robbins, Lyman library reading room for a private event request special one day all alcohol license 9 22 19 at Robbins library reading room for a private event. Request special one day beer and wine license 9 27 19 Arlington Center for the arts for a private event request special one day beer and wine license 10 4 19 at the Smith Museum Jason Russell House for an Arlington historical society fundraiser quest special one day beer and wine license 10 13 19 Robbins Memorial Town Hall for a private event in order to quest for a contractor drain layer license. USA excavating ink out of Bridgewater mass. First is their motion. So moved by Mr. Dunn seconded by Mr. Curell. It's there. I believe agenda item to anyone here who would like to speak to any of the items on the consent agenda. I think I saw someone here from heat smart or did I not you'd like to just give your name and address and my name is Andy Winslow. And I live at 63 situate Street in Arlington. So my name is Andy Winslow and I am the lead volunteer coach for the heat smart program, which is an energy efficiency outreach campaign that I've been working on with Ken Pruitt, the town's energy manager and a dedicated team of volunteers. So heat smart is promoting energy efficient heating and cooling systems, which are both beneficial to the resident because they can save money on their utility bills as well as for the town of Arlington because it pushes us closer to our to achieving our carbon zero climate goals. At the so our program runs or we're accepting sign ups for the program through the end of September. And so as we near these last few weeks, we're trying to do a big push to get as many people to sign up and be aware of the program as possible. At the beginning of the program, you allowed us to put a banner on the front of town hall and that was really helpful and spreading the word and now as we end, we'd like to we're requesting that we be allowed to put lawn signs at public intersections at high traffic intersections. So that people as they're going to and from Arlington will, you know, get the message and a lawn sign here. This is what we would be putting out. Any questions? Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Anyone else here for consent agenda? Not seen anyone? Any questions or comments from my colleagues? If not on emotion by Mr. Dunn, second by Mr. Carroll. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? unanimous vote. We now have 715 p.m. public hearings. We have Ms. Jackie Duffy, Jacqueline Duffy from Eversource. Anything just name and position for the record? Jackie Duffy, Eversource Energy. We'd like to install a concrete base for an electric vehicle charging station on Park Avenue in Arlington. This work is necessary to supply electric service to the electric vehicle charging station. Is there a motion? We'll approve some truck conditions set forth. Mr. Carroll, seconded by. Second. Mr. Dunn, any questions? Mr. Dufourcy? Just a question. There were a number of additional conditions that were contained in the DPW memo. Did you have an opportunity to look at those? I don't think I got that. Okay. Because there's 8, well, 11 conditions. So we're going to be voting that subject to those conditions. I suppose if we have an issue you can come back, but that was part of our package. If you contact Mrs. Kruppalka, she can email it to you. Okay. Whichever way you think is. Okay. This is a public hearing. I'm wondering, I would like to ask if there are any abutters here who would like to speak to the Eversource petition. Park Avenue Waters. You just are doing Park Avenue. Park Avenue. If not, any further questions or comments by my colleagues on a motion by Mr. Carroll, seconded by Mr. Dunn. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed unanimous vote. Now Water Street. Now Water Street. Sorry. That's okay. Jackie Duffy, Eversource Energy would like to install 11 feet of conduit in Water Street. This work is necessary to supply electric power to the electric vehicle charging station. Move approval subject to all conditions. Step 4. Aye. Mr. Carroll, seconded by Mr. Hurd. Second. Any questions or comments from my colleagues? This is a public meeting. I'm calling on any abutters regarding the Eversource petition for Water Street. None. On a motion by Mr. Carroll, seconded by Mr. Hurd. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed, unanimous vote. Thank you. Good to see you. Thank you. I went through that page. Gender item 10, request all alcohol package store. BB Powers Corporation. Nailesh Patel, owner manager, 1215 Massachusetts Avenue. And I see we have learned counsel here, so I'll turn it over to you. Thank you, Madam Chairwoman, members of the board. Mary Wynne Stanley O'Connor, I represent BB Powers Corporation. With me this evening is Mr. Nailesh Patel. Some of you may know him. He is the long standing owner of Peter Pan Suparet in Downing Square. He's made this application for the premises at 1215 Massachusetts Avenue. I know you have the reports from the department. Mr. Byrne has submitted a report to advise the board. This is a prior nonconforming lot there. It was used in the past by Maria's, by Nicola's pasta and pizza. There was never parking that complied with the bylaw because it's of the nonconformity. We will get to Mr. Byrne a plot plan. And I apologize for the drawing that was very light. That was what Mr. Patel gave me right before the filing. Michael has advised that he wants something done by an architect. There will be no structural changes to the interior of the store. As you know, the facade is controlled by the redevelopment board. It's unmassive and under environmental design review. The ARB has jurisdiction over the exterior of the premises. You can see from what I filed that Mr. Patel has extensive experience. He has interest in three other all alcoholic beverage stores. And I can answer any questions or have him answer any questions if you'd like. This would be, as the director of the planning department notes, a substantial improvement to this particular store. And there is, I would suggest adequate parking along that side of Massachusetts Avenue. Mr. Kiro? Thank you very much. I've long been interested in seeing that spot filled. It's been vacant for a long time. I'm just wondering, I mean, I guess we are able to, even with the pending issue with the building department, I guess we can approve the application subject to building departments. Okay, I'm just wondering if you're able to answer. I mean, how does the issue of the non-conforming lot come into play when it's a change of use? As long, you could have a change of use under the bylaw. And this change of use doesn't, it's a retail use. I'm sorry, you can move that chair. You can even move the mic too. It has, it can't be a substantial, if you look at the zoning code, it can't be a substantial change in use. And it can't further extend the non-conformity. The non-conformity is not being extended, the footprint is not being extended, and it's another retail use. I personally reading the bylaw think that it doesn't require a special permit because I view it as not a substantial change in use but it's another retail use. I mean, it differs, for instance, by way of example, if you take the old bailage as 5 and 10, which is a prior non-conforming use because there's no parking, sufficient parking, if that becomes a restaurant, that's a substantial change in use. So that would be my... And even if Mr. Byrne determines, and he's the ultimate point of determining under the building code, he determines that it requires a special permit. We'll file that with the ARB because they have jurisdiction over that when we file the plans for the facade. Okay, okay. My next question is, Mr. Patel, you're going to be continuing to manage both this establishment and the Peter Pan at the same time? No, my brother is going to be manager over there. Into the microphone, sorry. My brother is going to be manager over there and I'm going to help him out too and I'm going to be work over there too in the liquor store. And we're going to hire somebody in the Peter Pan. Yeah, it's just very important that we have clear management authority in the stores we've run into instances in other places where that has become an issue. And so the board knows Mr. Patel is the manager of record at his store in which, in Stonem, he is going to apply for a new manager for that location because he's going to manage the Arlington store. Okay, okay. Great, thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. Two issues that makes this seem negative, but first I'd just leave for my colleagues on the table that when I first got on the board and we were giving out the alcohol licenses, we had like five tenants, like five criteria, and I know some people didn't apply. One of them was the parking issue. If you can work that out with Mr. Byrne or if this current board wants to say, you know, before in the past when we first did the all alcohol licenses, we told proponents, you have to have some on-site parking. That was one of the five things. I don't know if the board wants to continue that. I just want to put that on the table because I don't have any strong feelings either way. Just in light of, you know, we've seen how these work and we know where this is going, so I'm okay with that. If I can answer, there are four spaces there now, but they're technically not in compliance with the bylaw, but if the lot is non-conforming and they don't have to alter the spaces, there are four spaces there. And they were used by the prior tenants. Yeah, it sounds like you can... I did contact the building department and the sketches were like in pencil and it looked like... Agreed. It looks like my Cindy, God bless her, did them. You really can't... We can't get a report from the building inspector regarding the plot plan and, you know, have someone sit down and make sure everything is to scale, but I'm happy with, as long as the building inspectors concerns issues are worked out and resolved, similar to what Mr. Carroll said about that. And then my third point is... I don't know... I'm wondering if Mr. Patel can speak to the issue because, especially with an all-alcohol store, I know the Peter Pan store a couple of times has failed when they've gone into... Just let me finish. Sorry. Oh, it's okay. And then when you answer, come to the microphone. I know that's happened. I don't know what steps you took in place. I thought it was more than once. I could be wrong if you say it's once, but I could have sworn I've been in there more than one time when the cigarettes have been down. But the jewel things have been up. And now where this is an all-alcohol package store, what training do you and or your future staff or do you anticipate will have to make sure you don't have a single, because even one violation in an all-alcohol store wouldn't be acceptable. And I don't mean to come off negative. It's a concern. We're going to hire the people and they're going to have a deep certified certificate with them. So they know what they are doing. And are you going to have anything in terms of when someone comes in with... With the ID, we're going to put the ID checker over there. You will put the ID checkers. You said, okay. And all the employees are going to be deep certified. And what will you do in the event that someone comes in and obviously is giving you a fake ID? No, then we don't want to take it. And we're going to reject the sale. If you could either check with Attorney O'Connor, maybe check with Mrs. Grappel or Attorney Heim. I know we went through this before and there may be something set up that if you do get a false ID, it's supposed to be confiscated. Call the non-emergency number. But double check that, please. I don't want to make that a condition if it's not. We'll do that. For some reason I have that in my head. Mr. Dunn. What is going to be your policy on IDing? Is it everybody? Is it anyone who looks under a specific age? About 35. If you look under 35, we're going to put the sign on the door also like that. Okay. And I guess this is more of a comment than a question, which is that in our experience with the restaurants that have had violations, we certainly have seen more restaurants with violations than we have liquor stores, though we've had at least two liquor store violations that I can think of. They were often with new employees and the new employees had not been fully trained and the reason the restaurants had a new employee was because they were short staffed. And so when they're short staffed, they're putting somebody out to work without sufficient training because they're in a rush and that was the time that they got in trouble. My advice to you is to whatever training, this training program that you're describing is that you firmly put it in before you actually put the people to work because in my experience sitting up here, that's the time when you run into trouble. Okay. Mr. Hard. This is a question about the parking, and this might be for Doug. As we're talking about the parking space is here, that's just to determine if you need a special permit to operate the business. It's not an impediment to us as far as issuing the license, correct? That's correct, Mr. Hard. So generally speaking, the board is determining the qualifications of the applicant into some degree, the qualifications of the location if the board has extreme concerns that the location is inappropriate, the board can certainly reject the license application. The board can approve it without approving any sort of zoning or inspections requirements that the building inspector as both the person in charge of the building code and the zoning enforcement officer would still have the authority to determine that a special permit is needed or not needed or what have you. Now, the building inspector does not issue the special permit as everybody knows, but you can approve it and basically have conditions upon it that would require some further colloquy between the applicants and inspection services. And I'd like to see an updated plan, but I just want to note that we consider this location in the community host agreement's discussion with parking. So it was my remembering that when we took that application, we consider that this location did have off-street parking in the back. Mr. DeCours. Do you have a parking? You mentioned this for the spaces. Is it your intent to allow customers to use those parking spots or are employees going to use them or what would be your intent once you open? We would not let customers buy them. The issue is that the parking is not five feet away from the residential district. So there would be no parking back there if Mr. Byrne decides that it has to be five feet away. All right, thank you. And I do note in your application you have a store in Stoneham and you haven't had any violations or any suspensions of your license since it opened. Okay, thank you. I do have one other question. I'm not trying to be extra picky. It's just what we got. It was hard to glean from that. In terms of CCR, video surveillance, safety cameras, not saying you should, but you plan on having any of that and where? We're going to put the security cameras outside and inside. And what will you have them, if you get right to the microphone, they yell up at me that you have to talk into it. You can move that chair if you want. Put it far back. Where do you plan on? In fact, if I had the plans I wouldn't be asking this. So where will they be directed inside the establishment outside? Inside we have separate one and outside we're going to put four cameras in the four corners of the building. What will the inside capture? What will the cameras be pointing at? They're going to sidewalks. No, no, the inside camera. What I'm saying is like some people have, I walk into Mass Convenience and he has a video system that shows three views of the front, shows every aisle. All the corners, everything from inside we're going to cover it. Deliveries, that will be in the rear? Delivery is going to be rear. And sometimes they come in the front to be small delivery. They can come from the front. As long as you're aware of what the bylaw... Well, not so much you, but your delivery drivers. Especially if they're new to Arlington because we don't have a big market for this. Make sure they're aware of what time they can start delivering and they don't come earlier, just for the neighbors. That's my final question. Mr. Dunn and then Mr. Carroll. So when we expanded the all alcohol license a couple of years ago and we added several, I think it was three additional ones. One of the criteria that the board was really looking for at the time was stores that were, for the lack of a better word, they were good fits for Arlington. In particular, we were really concerned that we're going to have like a lower end store that was not well kept up. And I think that largely in town we've had electricity stores that have been well kept up, but there certainly was a period of time where a previous owner of the liquor license on Summer Street was not. And we in fact threatened to pull their license until they fixed their awning among other things. And so I'm kind of curious, what are your thoughts about the exterior and interior appearance and what you're aiming for in terms of an experience? Actually we're going to paint the store, we're going to put the new awning and we're going to put the new signs that we're going to do best we can. Thank you. And Mr. Dunn, if I may, you know that the front is within the control of the ARB, so I would expect that it might be very similar to what they did in the store next to the stop and shop with the glass front and the planters. And I'd say that that is exactly, that is a really good example of a store. I gave that to my client as the example. Okay, thank you. And I guess the only concern is we didn't have any of that before us tonight. Right. Normally we do get all that specificity and we can really get a general sense and I'm going to call Mr. Cure next. So I'm going to leave it to my colleagues in terms of whether this is approved subject to the conditions being reconciled with the building department or if we table postpone it to our next meeting so that we can see the plans if any of my colleagues feel that we need to see that because that's where we can get a sense and then hopefully by then the building inspector will be, will have some news for us that his issues were satisfied. We can do either one. I'm happy to do either one. I'm just a little bit uncomfortable because, and I'm not being disrespectful but literally as you all know the plan submitted, it's just a pencil, light pencil drawing and there's really no detail there. So I'm going to leave it to my colleagues but Mr. Cure, I'm sorry. Thank you. No, no problem. I mean I don't actually feel a strong need for that. I think that, I don't want to put words in his mouth. I think the thrust of Mr. Dunn's question was as much about upkeep and you know, continuing maintenance. Those are the types of complaints that we've received at other locations. We just, and that does fall under us to stay on that. Now my question was just do you intend to carry nips? Yes. You do. Okay. I mean nips are allowed in town. I just want to just advise you and you know any others that there's a growing sentiment around the nips and the contribution to litter and being able to be easily concealed. So I could envision a future where you know, there was consideration, regulation. There isn't right now. I just, I don't know. Thank you. Okay. Is, and I was wondering if it's okay with my colleagues if we could, if and when any future board, select board has an opening or adds an additional all alcohol license that we can, just for efficiency's sake, have something in the application saying that, you know, you're required to submit sufficient plot plans. Usually what we usually get, we've gotten none of that. I thought maybe you might be able to listen, get us that stuff. And I apologize. That was what my client gave me at the very last minute. He has hired an architect that I'm working with who's putting together the plan for the ARB and who's drawing that pencil drawing by an architect to submit to Mr. Berner. We'll submit it to you. What you have for the drawing, he's just making that more legible. And I guess I'd say to any, anyone in the future, make sure that's known upfront because I am a little uncomfortable that we have nothing, but I don't get to make the motions. Mr. DeGorge. What's the timing on completing plans? He was just retained. I would say several weeks. Yeah, the thing is, these type of boats, if there's a discomfort of a member of the board, I don't have a problem with asking that we table this. I mean, I don't doubt if you want you to miss your time period to get things done. But I think the chair is right in terms of, you have an application should be complete so that there is a question. So if it is a matter of a couple of weeks, maybe it can even be done between now and the next meeting. If it can be expedited, maybe that's a better practice for us to have that in. Sure. Or the majority of it. I'm not saying, you know, hey, I don't see any planters here. Just the majority of it. Yeah. But if that's a motion to place this at our next meeting in two weeks as an agenda item. Yes. By Mr. Decorsi. Second. Seconded by Mr. Currow. And believe me, they won't be all these detailed questions then because maybe a few additional, I doubt it, but we'll have all that info and we've asked a lot here tonight. So I don't want Mr. Patel or Attorney O'Connor to feel we're not respecting your time. No, no, no. We thank the board for their time. Okay. Any further questions or comments? Any other comments? If not, a motion by Mr. Decorsi. Seconded by Mr. Currow to place this on our next regularly scheduled September agenda. Say aye. Aye. All those opposed? unanimous vote. Thank you so much. When is that the next meeting? Two weeks. Two weeks. Okay. I will not be here, but I will send someone on my behalf. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. We now move to June 30, 2022. Just come up to the microphone. Make sure it faces exactly where your mouth is and name and address affiliation for the record, please. Hi. David Kaplan, 22 Baker Rill. President. Do you want to just give a little brief premier or, you know, 60-minute thing in terms of association to Allington, how long you've lived here, a little bit of what your background kind of applies to conservation commission, any meetings you might have attended. But do you don't have to go too long? No. I've been resident of Allington since 2012. I currently work for the City of Cambridge Water Department as the watershed manager. So I manage the water supply. The 24 acres of watershed that we have, about 1500 acres that we own. I have a team of eight and I'm excited for the opportunity. Excellent. Public first commissioner. Great person. Great employee. Allington previous on Mugar and other issues, the CSO discharge. Considering, you know, where he works, he worked very well with the town of Allington. So I'm very pleased that you're also working there because I sort of know the sentiment of what they do. First, is there a motion to approve by Mr. Hurd, any questions or comments from my colleagues, Mr. Kero. I'll just say, I mean, I just am continually blown away by the credentials of folks who offer their professional expertise to these volunteer commissions and boards. And I just want to thank you very much for doing that. It looks like you can step right into the position and know exactly which way is up. So, thank you very much. Commissioner for a year and a half thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. On a motion by Mr. Hurd, seconded by Mr. Kero. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Unanimous. Well, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Conservation Commission, associate member, Michael Giddes game, Gildes game, term two expired June 30th, 2022. You could just say your name correctly, which I probably didn't and address for the record. However, I spent 20 years working for the Department of Environmental Management followed by DCR as chief planner and director of the office of water resources for the Commonwealth, which basically dealt with quantity issues. So, we dealt with everything from flood hazard management to drought planning, water conservation. We worked with DP on water withdrawal, permitting and communities and water suppliers, followed that with five years with the Appalachian Mountain Club, working on policy issues, legislation, forest trails, rivers and so forth for education, conservation and recreation. Before that, I spent some years doing consulting work with a variety of different companies, both domestically and overseas and I'm currently retired. Phew. I was waiting to know. First, motion moved by Mr. Dunn. Seconded by Mr. Cureau. Sorry, I'm going to put the initials down. Mr. Dunn. I'll steal Mr. Cureau's speech and just say thank you and we really appreciate such well-credentialed people volunteering for the town. Well, I've been here 36 years and I figured it's about time to step up. And I'll just echo what I said previously, the ongoing Ugar issue and what the town's position has been regarding that and usually it's once every 10 years that the NIPDs permit comes up on the MWRA CSO, in my opinion, illegal discharges into the L-Wife. Now, working with O and O Red in the city of Cambridge, our town management, we have eliminated, I think, all but three or five. I think it's one insumable two in Cambridge or one in four. I'm not sure. And what we've consistently done and you know, I've asked someone from conservation committee and it's usually held in Cambridge when the NIPDs permit meeting comes up in consultation if concom agrees along with the town manager just to go in and renew our request to MWRA when we originally started doing this myself and Clarissa Rose said, well, this is just our first 20 year plan. We can put that out for the 40 or 50 year plan and we're like 30 years in. And they have eliminated some but I'd like to see them all. It's just a wish. So thank you for letting me. You are a captured captive audience both of you to hear my little diatribe on that. Any further questions or comments? If not, am I sincere? Thanks. Motion by Mr. Dunn, seconded by Mr. Curell. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? unanimous vote. Thank you so much. Thank you. We now have an appointment to the Equal Opportunity Advisory Committee, Nora Morance. She wouldn't be able to be here tonight. But both Karen and Maloy myself would ask if the board would consider appointing her but having her appear at a future board meeting. Is there a motion? Yes. By Mr. Curell, seconded by Mr. Dunn. To Mr. Curell. To approve the appointment with the request that Ms. Morance appeared and her earliest convenience before us. Any questions? Any questions or comments? For my colleagues, if not on a motion by Mr. Curell, seconded by Mr. Dunn. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? unanimous vote. We now have the LGBTQIA Rainbow Commission appointment. Ari Lee. If I said that correctly, please let me know. Yes. My name is Ari Lee. I use them pronouns and I live at 104 Thorndyke Street in Arlington. Thank you. Would you like to give us a little brief what you want to bring to the committee and any relevant experience or something else? I'm not saying you have to speak to either of those. Absolutely. I've been presenting on topics relevant to the queer community for eight years now since I first came out as transgender and was the only openly transgender person at my college campus. As I've come into Arlington and I've been here for a couple of years, I've learned that Arlington has a really strong sense of wanting to welcome identity is so strong. And so I've been particularly focused on workshops lately about how to build diverse communities by leaning into discomfort, by leaning into the sense of I'm making a mistake and that is hard and these topics are difficult. And so I would like to bring that conversation to the town. Excellent. Mr. Cure. Move approval. Seconded by Mr. Hurd. Any questions or comments? Mr. Dunn? I have a question. I'm really looking forward to him. I'm the liaison to the LBGTQIA committee. I don't attend all that many meetings but I check in with the chair and stuff like that. And I'm so proud of the progress we've made with that group over the last couple of years. So thank you for helping us out. Thank you. Okay. At a motion by Mr. Cure. Seconded by Mr. Hurd. Any further questions or comments? Mr. Cure. I'm look forward to hearing you all in the future. Agenda item fifteen for approval transfer of all alcohol package to a license. Giles Wine, Inspellits 137 block. Mr. Hurd. Yep. So, I am going to step out and refuse myself from this matter. I have represented the transfer or Mr. Galbin who Statement and recusal and leaving the Chambers, I guess we call this That's nothing untoward. It's just Okay, good evening, madam chair and members of the board. My name is attorney Tom Truex. I'm from Salem, Massachusetts To my right is Anico biswest. He is the director of the corporation He is also the proposed licensed manager and to my right as she's giving to my left is Mr. Vino on Zavari. He's the president of the corporation. He's also the hundred percent shareholder of the corporation Is as indicated the proposed transfer is Roshani one enterprises Inc The underlying transaction is fairly straightforward as a step forth in the person sale agreement There is financing involved in it with Rockland Trust company And they have asked that the as part of their collateral that they have a pledge of the license and the inventory as for experience Mr. Zavari comes before you he has ownership interests in two package stores one in Lowell and one in East Bridgewater I believe that's about four or five years worth of experience there. He's only worked part-time because his main Job is up here in Linfield at another store, but he's worked there and has worked in the beer and wine segment of that package store for the past since 2015 and as to mr. Biswas he comes before you with approximately seven years of experience as working as a as a clerk at 7-eleven and Tedeschi's both of which had package store licenses and both of which he and I have talked extensively about the carding requirements 7-eleven is pretty strict about carding requirements and they have a little course that they give to all their employees before they become employed by the store Granted that was several years ago as I always tell my clients When it's a new store, I like to have them go through a formal training period The training program that I prefer is the package store mass package store owners Association, it's an in-person training session tips doesn't have an in-person training session So this is an in-person training session. I've checked their website. They're typically a fall and spring training sessions They haven't put out the dates yet as you can look at their website They'll be in the beginning October the closest one is in Marlboro. It's a three-hour in-person and it's very detailed I know mr. Biswas has already told me all the things that he's heard in his training through 7-eleven But this will be more of a refresher course from him and a new course for mr. Zavar even though he understands all the requirements As to some of the questions, I know you've asked before and we've I discussed with my clients I do a lot of this so my My feeling is that you card everyone from 45 So if they look 45 your card of no matter what and at the beginning I usually ask them because you're you don't know your your your clientele as well I like to have them I've always advised them card everyone at least for a few months until you get to know your clientele better And then you can go to the 45. I don't believe there's a card scanning machine in there I don't think there's been any issues at this store. I've been to the store. I've looked at the store It's a nicely kept store And I believe they're gonna be retaining the two employees that are there So I think between his seven years his four years and the employees that are there I think and the bat training program I think this will be in good hands when they change ownership, and I'm glad to answer any questions you may have Thank you Mr.. Kiro, thank you. I think and if you answered this already I apologize Any incidents at any of the other locations where I've asked I've asked both and they're clean Mr.. DeCorsi even this we had a memo that was dated the middle of August and it Looks like the transfer is gonna take place in September. Is that still the the plan pending me? I'm going on vacation next week So I will be back to the 20th so typically with the ABC you're talking a four to six week turnaround anyways They're a little quicker in the fall than they are in the summer But we're probably looking some tour where somewhere towards the end of October. I would imagine Mr.. Don so you probably heard the question. I asked or Probably more will do these both ways. I made a talk with the previous liquor license about the tricky the the time when a new employee starts is the time that we most often find the experience and They had already talked a little bit about their training But I guess so I'll turn this into a question and say so for new employees Presumably you can't wait for the training that you're doing because it's only twice a year What sort of training program will you put in place for new employees going forward? I don't think there's I mean I can just say I know that with the store what they're planning on doing I don't think there's gonna be any new employees if there are new employees that come up come up down the road at some point in time as I said the in-person training is tough to get so There is a tip there is the online course you can do so as least a stopgap measure There's there's the online course, but talking to these two guys They they seem to know what they're doing and I think they can give them a good pretty good You know discussion as to what they should be doing, but the tips would have to be a stopgap as I said There is another one. It's it's by macaroni Marcano But he's really rare that you can get him because some of the talents do require an in-person train So there's a couple out and I think frame of hand maybe Westboro But he's a tough one to get that's why the the bats training which is in the fall and in the spring Hopefully that would cover any of those areas and the tips online course would have to cover anything in between Until we can get a in-person training So did that include a commitment for tips training or better for all employees before they make a sale? Well tips I would say definitely no matter what okay, but do they know these people are going to be bats train Beginning from day I understand so I get I'll repeat So my experience hasn't been the problem isn't when the store first opens the store The problem is in the second year or the third year or the fourth year when there is employee turnover employees Great employees turn over eventually right So is there a commitment in there? Yes, okay. There'd be tips trained no matter what and It's based on the schedule we'll get the batch training in as soon as we can thank you and would either of you two gentlemen just like to address the board on any of these issues or Speak to your experience Even if you repeat something that's been said because your attorneys your attorneys has yet has said yes to everything And we just like to make sure Yes, my name is Vinod Javeri and I have a store and a couple store in landfill I running last 14 years Plus I have a store in this bridge water and lower which is I manage I go three times or twice a week So I have experience for last 14 years My name is on a cool business, so I'm living here like 14 years. I'm working convenience store packages store 14 years So, excuse me one second. Can you guys please take the conversations outside? I'm just about deaf in this air and that doesn't Amplify I'm sorry go ahead. So I'm working full-time job All packages store and grocery store can register 711 Ted is key some convenience, you know, so I have experience for the running the business Thank you. Thank you, and I do appreciate because I've never heard of the in-service Training that you cited and that's some cities and towns Yeah, that's something I'm certainly going to explore my colleagues and the manager and town council in the future to See if it's something we should could we could consider I wrote down the mass package store training Association Mr. Mercano and I'm not pronouncing his name correctly framing him, but that's months down the road I just had never heard that before and I think attorney true accidents clients for making us aware Any further questions or a motion? I Move approval subject all conditions second Moved by mr. Keros seconded by mr. Herd. It's similar to even though we previously postponed An applicant for the all alcohols store you have all departments reporting no objections I just want to note and make sure and I'm sure you've already shared this with your client that under inspectional report section under electrical It says again, it's conditional and then it does speak to When or if to notify the inspector of wires around some wiring issues should that Arise in the future. So as long as they're aware of that and obviously you are similar to what mr. Kuro has always said subject to conditions As amended if not on a vote by mr. Kuro seconded by mr. Dunn I put John All those in favor say aye. I all those opposed for a unanimous vote. Thank you. There's also the pledge I'm not sure if you mentioned the pledge as well The training transfer and the pledge pledge a license. Oh, is that part of the motion? Thank you very much. I can't make motions unless I pass them, but no it's subject to all Yes, thank you. Thank you for clarifying that for the record. I'm gonna stick with that stuff Okay Okay, we now have oh Can someone let our colleague know that he can come back in business And just make sure the minutes reflect that Right before Citizens open forum. Mr. Hurd has returned to the meeting Citizens open forum except in unusual circumstances any matter presented for consideration of the board shall neither be acted upon nor decision made the night of the Presentation in accordance with the policy under which the open forum was established It should be noted that there is a three-minute time limit to present a concern or a quest I'd like to ask if anyone is here for a citizens open forum on something that is not on the agenda So if I call you and you're here for an agenda item When we get to that I'll call on you then John Ward Are you here for something not on the agenda? If you could come up to the microphone just say your name and address please for the record Thank you. My name is John Ward. I live at four Winslow Street Arlington for more than a year. I've carefully chronicled through photos and emails my efforts To purge the Arlington Housing Authority of the unacceptable and illegal practice of providing safe harbor to stolen shopping carts In that time, I've been personally responsible for controlling the five local merchants affected to retrieve more than $7,000 worth of stolen carts. I Have contacted all five store managers several district managers several corporate offices the town manager The Arlington Police Department the director and chairman of the board of the AHA the district representative to the Massachusetts Legislature several echelons of authority with the Department of Housing and Community Development and the State Attorney General's Office All of their ridiculous reasons for ignoring this problem, and I'm willing to share those reasons with anybody who's interested these photos Show a thousand dollars in stolen shopping carts that were against the back wall of the Arlington Police Department for over three months and At least six hundred dollars worth that are in the lobby of the four Winslow Street until this past week Incidentally these things all have gone since I brought a copy of this to Select board's office. So somebody mentioned these things to somebody because they all vanished this week After being there for over three months Stolen shopping carts are most often associated with the homeless and those living on Skid Row All the residents of AHA are entitled to dignified common areas that are devoid of the spoils of a thief The stolen cars can be found willy-nilly throughout the buildings While some AHA residents have a need for a cart to transport items to their apartments the AHA has provided carts for that purpose Many communities across the Commonwealth and indeed the entire US have had to pass an ordinance that finds the merchants for failure to Pick up reported stolen carts and a cost per cart that the town has to return the cart to the merchant The Arlington Housing Authority is a taxpayer subsidized operations should not be made to look like Skid Row providing Safe Harbour to stolen shopping carts They are placed there by a thief plain and simple Once the carts leave the merchants property the Arlington Police Department should be obliged to recognize them as stolen No matter who reports their location and there's a reason why that doesn't happen now that I'll be glad to share with anyone interested Any suggestion that the merchants offer these cards to AHA as a courtesy is nonsense I'm asking this deliberative body to pass a resolution to require the reporting of any and all stolen shopping carts found on AHA property or anywhere else to the Arlington Police Department In turn the Arlington Police Department will notify the merchants of the location. Okay. Can you one more sentence and wrap it up? Okay Of the stolen carts and given 48 hours to read it retrieve them or face the possibility possibility of a monetary fine The APD posture that only merchants can report these carts of stolen is a preeminent issue that must be dealt Thank you very much. Thank you for your time on this You must have contacted some the appropriate person because they're now gone so I'm glad you did that Um next Jordan Weinstein Weinstein Okay, Lynette Martin Shailene Fulcris Robin Bergman, okay Eric Paul Mona Mandel For Snyder Eli Garzan Gurzan John Sanbon Matzoo Sanbon Matzoo Sorry, I apologize for not saying that correctly Raphael Schmidt You're here for what I'm sorry What do you say I couldn't understand Agenda brain layer light We did that. Did you just come in? Oh Okay, if you want to come up to the microphone and just say your name and address for the record. I Okay, no, that's Okay, sorry about that sell past the clothes because you already got it. Yeah I already got it Just briefly three four sentences name and business address for the record and one or two about your business or the license you're applying Yeah, my name is Raphael Schmidt. I'm the owner of USA X committee I actually got a job here in Ireland that I need to get done It's a utility work water sewer and drainage so I need the drain layer license so I can perform the work The reason why I came in today actually is because they said you guys only have the meeting I apply actually last month. They say you only have one meeting every month And then basically if I don't get it today, then it's only next month. I already have a contract sign So I came here if you guys have any questions. I have over 10 years with experience I'm bonded with the city of Boston city of lean City of Reading, so I'm just trying to get a job done here in Ireland. That's all Thank you and we do in the summer only meet once a month But after that it's every two weeks if not more but you're on a motion by mr. Cairo seconded by mr. Dunn all five board members voted and it was unanimous approval. So I'm a proof. Okay. Thank you so much Okay, so you're okay That was mr. Schmidt, right? Yes Tom Truex. He was the attorney. I assume that's what he was here for Can't read this From Linfield mass Oh Main Street Linfield mass The last license, okay, so we think that's done Clarissa Rodriguez Lara Bergen Carrie Thiel Chair members of the select board My name is Carrie teal. I'm grateful for Being able to speak before you today one second. Excuse me. Can you please take the conversation? I really can't hear very well, and I'm like just about deaf in this area when I get two different like In a wedding I can't hear a thing. So sure So I live at 11 a Lakeview Street. I'm here personally today to raise a concern about town day But just to give some context I'm the co-founder and executive director of a nonprofit organization named great 2k USA worldwide We are the largest opponent of commercial Greyhound racing Globally we brought the ballot question to phase out Greyhound racing in Massachusetts We recently last November won About question in Florida, which will and Greyhound racing in that state close 12 dog tracks We're also in the last 18 months Successfully closed the only legal dog track in China. We're doing really cutting-edge a work in the animal welfare field I'm proud to be a resident here. I'm proud that we're located here When we a decade ago and moved our operation to the town and we have six full-time employees Our revenue last year was about 1.5 million and we're growing significantly We chose Arlington in part because the town had such a great history on Animal welfare issues when our ballot question was was on the ballot and we won here in Arlington 63 40 63 37 The anti-trapping amendment number of years back again very large margin here in Arlington So I all the all that is to say that I Hope and expect that Arlington will be a place where animal welfare issues are looked at in a forward-looking way I recently learned just last week that there's going to be a petting zoo at town day This is not a crisis in terms of animal welfare. I'm not suggesting it is nonetheless, I have some pretty significant concerns Marie and Diane Welch And miss miss Sullivan at the at the Board of Health have all been extremely gracious with their time over the past week I and I realized that raising a concern about town day days away is Really not fair and so I want to apologize to town day and the town day committee for that Nonetheless, I have three concerns. First of all the company that has been Contracted with a company called animal craze is not licensed or registered with the USDA and to be clear animal exhibitors That the legal Designations they are either licensed or they are registered at the maximum license fee is $300. This is not a burdensome Hurtle I Downloaded the complete list of licensees in Massachusetts the animal craze is not on it They're their only competitor in the area is on it petting zoos are one of the Businesses that that are as far as I can tell required to be licensed their website says they are USDA certified Wasn't sure what that meant I consulted a colleague of mine who's national expert in this and he told me there's no such thing as a USDA Certified designation for a petting zoo. It does not exist. I could ask you one one or two more sentences understood So my you know I view this is an animal welfare issue I view this as a public health issue my request would be today that the town Cancel this contract absent that I would seek a dialogue to bring a bylaw to regulate or Disallow animal exhibits. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay next we Didn't read here from Mike Conservation Commission, yeah, okay, so that one's done Elizabeth Drey Beth Melafil I'll call you name again in case you change your mind Kate Trangvada Quata, sorry David Leone Carol Please come up to the microphone Band is here too, so in Carol David Leone I live at 67 Bartlett Avenue And we're here to talk about the traffic on Bartlett Avenue We wanted to initially just request that they do a traffic study on Bartlett Avenue since 2013 Whole Foods came in traffic has increased exponentially combination of cut-throughs and the traffic going to Whole Foods and The second thing is town day because that's a little more pressing the problem is it's a two-way street Parking is allowed on both sides of the street when you really get dense parking on both sides two cars cannot pass each other So you've constantly got this jockeying which gets worse and worse We spoke to some people the traffic advisory committee a bit seven years ago about doing a study Right and they said you know wait and let's see how bad it is and it's gotten bad town day is Effective frankly a disaster because it is wall-to-wall cars up and down people looking for parking spaces and they're trying to go to Whole Foods The solution could be to eliminate parking on one side of the street Which we did at porch fest and that worked pretty well the other option is to make it one way for a day So the people could at least park and go to the festival and but you wouldn't have these standoffs I mean we had situations we had to come Just about It's pretty it's pretty bad There is no place to turn around when you've got two or three cars facing each other and they can't turn around it gets pretty bad so We'd love to have a traffic study to look at this long term and do it properly in the short term We'd like to do something about town day, so we don't have the kind of problems we've seen before I think because we can't make a motion or take a vote on anything that's not on the agenda if you want to Send an email to the select board's office with those two requests. We can I mean right now town day is Saturday And what we would have to do is have more time than days to That'll be your request. Okay. I'm not trying to be stickler What I'll say during porch fest I could I did we just called the police department some days before and they Said they could not do anything about it one way But they would put up no parking and that was done very quickly and it was very effective Even if they did half a street, but we can't take any action tonight. Okay. Okay. I don't know if the manager You know mr. Chapter Lane, I would add that mr. Leonie wrote to me today as well And I didn't have a chance to follow up today But I'd be happy on the board's behalf to follow the requests and come back at a future meeting as necessary It was a motion I'd say we refer to the manager and some other things it but it sounds like he's going to do that So yeah, okay, so fine the manager or someone from his office will get back to very good. Thank you. Thank you so much Louise Popkin Okay Anyone else here for citizens open forum on agenda on an item that's not on the agenda that would like to speak under Citizens open form So that's 21. Okay, anyone else here not for agenda item 21 that would like to speak under citizens open form Not citizens open form is closed And my agenda has disappeared here. It is sorry Because we had to go back to eight Next we have agenda item 16 presentation food waste diversion I will let Charlotte and others explain what it is. Hi. Thanks Charlotte Milan recycling coordinator of public works Mike Lottemacher director of public works. We heard to share with you Exciting expansion of food waste diversion food scrap diversion really in Arlington There's about 50 to 20 percent of food waste in our trash by weight it's mostly water and we love the idea of aiming for that diverting that trying to get that out of the Waste stream and there's a lot of precedent with this and a lot of activity going on around the state so Arlington is keeping up with the leading edge and we have a Food scrap drop-off pilot program that started a couple of years ago very very small and we're going to be expanding that it's called the feed Fido program Fido stands for food scrap drop-off and That's a no-cost easy way for residents to come and to come to public works and Try dropping off food scraps. We haven't been able to promote it and we're not promoting it tonight Because we're at capacity so we're excited to be that the demand has shown that we should expand that program And so we'll have a few more locations as well as expand the Capacity that we have at public works that gives us a real chance to keep an eye on the program because it is unusual but there are other communities expanding towards this as well and There's a lot of interest in curbside foods grab drop-off Unfortunately, I'm not here today to let anybody know that that's going to happen the day after tomorrow But it is popular and it is something that people are willing to pay for so the town of Arlington wants to really promote this There are at least four companies doing business in Arlington. So the prices are coming down This is the container that is used by some of the companies. It's got a nice animal rodent proof Lock here and the way the system works is residents Take a have a container by their sink and to the food waste into here. Usually it's it can be lined with Radamaka, okay Decomposable bag that's approved for this use and when you're done with your food scraps every couple of days you tie it up and put it in your bigger bin in your garage or outside and This is the starter kit that we will be offering to residents right now. This is Marketed by a particular hauler, but we're gonna put the town a version of the town seal On containers like this. We're hoping to give away 500 kits this fall Pretty soon. We'll have a Press release that will explain how people can sign up for that and we're hoping that these kits can be available in early October, so the kit would include Rolling cart this has nice wheels some kind of collection bucket and a roll of bags to get people started and Once it becomes a habit people who separate their food scraps in their trash really find it's actually very easy to do and Again, this is our best shot at at picking one item in our food and our trash That has a real chance to reduce the weight and save town money And we're diverting these food scraps away from incineration, which doesn't make any sense since they're mostly water and towards either anaerobic digestion or Composting and at farm locations outside of the urban areas First is my kids would say I'll channel them I call firsties on that one No, I'm only kidding. Everyone will wait their turn first come first serve Mr. Duck, Mr. Herd. I'm sorry just one quick so When the program rolls out in October in residence pick up the kit what do they do they'll bring it to the Designated location, so there's two different parts of the program. I apologize if I was unclear One is a drop-off program that's free to residents That's that will be expanding and we'll let everyone know when that's available to sign up for this is Encouraging subscription service, so these companies all charge an annual or a monthly fee to pick up your food scraps but what we're hoping to do is encourage it and put our stamp on the side and provide the equipment information inspiration and encouragement for people to Experiment with this and see if they if it works for their household and This way when we you know make decisions going forward about our future programs. We'll know if food scraps is something that we should be considering institutionalizing more Mr. Dunn, so what's the range on the costs of the services like I know you said there are several but I mean what 100 to 150 a year, okay, and Is there like any broad restrictions about what kind of food or is it literally if like if I could eat it I can throw it in there That's Largely the restriction in fact people you can include soiled paper towels if they're food soiled for example Some are vegetarian so some don't want meat products, but for the most part the curbside programs can accommodate cheese spoiled meat things like that whereas our drop-off program we have to keep that vegetarian because it's Located in the community. We want to make sure that we're reducing smells as much as possible and It's just safer that way To keep that vegetarian Thank you Mr. DeCourson We're participating in the drop-off program and you do learn pretty quickly to To move on to that just a question on the on the curbside What's the frequency of the pickup? What is it typically? Some of the early companies were offering an every other week option, but for the most part I think they all pick up every week either either on your trash day or there's one company that picks up on Fridays Motion to approve and doors Someone wants to make a motion to approve the pilot program So motion second. Mr. Dunn seconded by Mr. Herd No, Mr. D'Corsi. Mr. Okay Seconded by Mr. D'Corsi, but then I realized you could have been quiet. No, no, no, that's okay Any further questions? comments Thank you, Ms. Milan, Mr. Radamaker, and we do have the best DPW director I know I was gushing a little bit about our own overridden, but you far rise I just want to make that clear and they're both very tall Okay, on a motion by motion by Mr. Dunn seconded by Mr. D'Corsi all those in favor say aye Opposed unanimous vote agenda item 17 discussion and approval meeting metering of spaces on Broadway Franklin Street to Webster Street Mr. Chaplain you will turn it over to I think we'll let Dan take the lead and I'll Jump in as necessary if that's okay with the board My name is Daniel Amstutz. I'm the senior transportation planner with the Department of Planning and Community Development So this item about the metering on Broadway is actually connected to agenda item 19 But I'll talk about the meters first And so I'll just I'll read this short section in the memo that was provided and there was also a map of the locations of the meters I hope you were able to receive that and take a look at that but the the 2014 Arlington Center parking study Recommended that parking meters be installed on Broadway between Franklin Street and Webster Street and Paul parking stalls were actually striped on Broadway. You can see where the strice have been placed between Webster Street and Franklin in 2016, but the meters were actually ended up being installed on massive between Academy Street and Jason and Mill Street to just address some of the issues of turnover within that part of town or that part of Arlington Center Broadway still however experiences issues of parking high parking utilization possibly some people moving into that area because of the lack of metering that that You know on Broadway since there are no meters and Also last summer there was a business owner who submitted a petition to the board with signatures from many other customers Requesting that the town address some parking issues that were occurring that are occurring in the area and that petition was also included as an attachment So there were some follow-up conversations between the petitioner and the town manager and planning staff And they indicated that the installation of the meters would help address some of the issues of mainly turnover of high parking utilization There's also the 15 we would include of course the 15-minute grace period where you can press the button on the meter and get that extra 15 minutes To help the drop-off and pick up traffic that's happening at one of the Children's Center there right on that block So the funds for the purchase are going to come from the existing parking meter revenues And we hope to install the new parking meters this fall Pending discussions with IPS which is meter vendor and DPW to ensure that we can install them in a timely manner So the way that this is connected to the other item Which is about route 87 is that you can see on the map that the the section which is in front of 283 Broadway would not be included in this metering. So it'd be 19 meters that are installed total Happy to take any questions 19 or we can do it right after this Myself and others of the conversations with the town manager on this particular issue I'm pleased we had a request we had a petition we went through the process We're identifying where their funds will come from and it's in conformity with what we have currently existing And then when we get to 19, which I think I'll do that next with my manager and my colleagues permission Again, there were a lot of requests about that bus right there in the center by the plaza and The three meters spots on Broadway will be right from the corner by playtime And it's really a much much safer more suitable location. I know When we get to 19, I'll talk to 19. So first, I guess I'm if there's a motion to approve agenda item Meeting metering of spaces on Broadway Franklin Street to Web Street by move approval. Mr. Hurd seconded by Mr. Cureau Any questions comments anyone here from the center playtime if not on a motion by mr. Hurd Seconded by mr. Cureau all those in favor say aye. All those opposed and now with my colleagues and the manager's permission I'll go to agenda item 19 All right, thank you to our senior transportation. Thank you very much So this refers to the route 87 layover that currently occurs at Broadway Plaza as we all know It's then for many it for much for much time. We've known that this layover location has been an issue it When the bus stops there tends to block traffic that's coming off of Broadway onto Mass Av it blocks a few parking spaces that are there Often there's idling if the bus needs to lay over four or five to ten minutes or so Then that can you know is a disturbance to People that are eating on the Plaza or the businesses that are there and so there've been a lot of efforts to try and find a Different location for the layover which as far as I know has been there for sort of in perpetuity We there've been a couple of instances to try to figure out a Location and working with the MBTA We've scouted probably a half dozen locations or or so and we had another sort of round working with the MBTA over This past summer we walked to the field and looked at different locations and we determined that the and also had discussions with the town manager with planning staff with The tea and also local business owners and determined that that location Which is a 283 Broadway which would be in front of in front of play time Would be would meet the needs of both the town and the MBTA So some of the considerations is that there's currently two unmetered parking spaces that are there Which is really the smallest amount of space that we can really Take up in order to move the layover That the tea has some new guidelines for bus stop links and so on and so Moving it to a new bus stop or new to a new location requires it to be a longer bus stop as well We only impact one property owner one business and which is playtime and they actually already have their own Parking a lot that is behind the building But of course there'd be spaces along Broadway across the street and next to next to this location Maybe one of the larger concerns is that it is about 500 feet or a two-minute walk or so from Broadway Plaza currently where the the new layover location would be There's another project that we are working on with repairing the sidewalks in Arlington Center And so once those sidewalks get repaired that walk will be much easier and much safer and more accessible so we would propose to Not do the official layover relocation until that time and the The spot is also good for if you're transferring to the 77 or the 79 or the 350 you could still walk down Franklin Street to those stops that are at Franklin Street and Avon Place the the old layover location or the current layover location would still be a bus stop, but it would be a Pickup point only so that the layover would be a drop-off point only and then the the stop at Broadway Plaza would be pickup only There's also work that we're doing and or they will will be done in the center In Broadway Plaza that will address the accessibility issues that are currently at that stop There's there's a very small sidewalk and lots of impediments for somebody with a mobility impairment Or to actually get on the bus at that point, but with it being just a traditional stop Then they will not have the idling issue that continues and the the MBTA can continue to run the bus at the same route that it currently does So As I said it will continue to run on the same route We have the economic development coordinator did go to playtime to speak with the With the employees there the owner wasn't there, but she talked to them She she explained to them what was happening They seem to understand and she also left her card if the owner wanted to call and communicate with us so And now I also had Did the same thing went into playtime didn't find the owner and had conversations with the manager on Friday and Basically what I was told is well some people we know some people like to park out there But I know when I went there with my toddler toddlers as children and now going with my grandchildren as toddlers I'm very old I've always gone to the back parking lot. It's safer and there is handicapped parking back there And I've never been hot-pressed to find a spot. I think once I had to park there wasn't in the parking lot There was a run-on poster board and I parked on Franklin Street. I didn't want to literally that's what it was Everyone had there you get there Adam You'll appreciate buying 20 of those poster boards a word of advice But I so I just want to say thank you for that effort in terms of that But I know we've gotten many concerns about whether it's St. Agnes and Arlington Catholic kids go into school in the morning Which to me the concern is more the parents that are whipping through there I come up that side street and they want to get back on to work. It's not so much the buses But the bus is an impediment and it's hard to see and I think this is a really great solution But I'd like to leave it to one of my colleagues. Mr. Herd. I Just say briefly that I can't remember an agenda item that I was more excited I think weekly I text Adam pictures of poorly parked layover 87 buses So because I spent a lot of time in this area So I think this was a great move and I think it's a long time coming We've been trying to find a new location for that for about five years So I'm excited to support it. I take that as a motion to move to approve move approval Mr. Herd seconded by Mr. Curell I share Mr. Herd's excitement any questions or comments Mr.. Of course, yeah, thank you manager. Yeah, just a couple comments I agree with mr. Herd that location is Absolutely off. I've heard from people who have tried to have lunch in Broadway plaza in the summer and the bus is idling and It just creates a terrible experience. No, I drove Through the center on Saturday And I was aware of these Locations but one of the things I noticed and maybe 187 bus was running late another one came in but there was actually a bus idling on the Center side of Broadway almost where the no parking Signs are for for the really to allow engine a lot or one to return to the fire station But it did make me think when I saw the bus there was that one of the locations You may have looked at because I know the bus drivers It's not like the bus is left vacant the bus the 87 bus returns to our linkedin center It's probably there four or five minutes ten if there's no traffic before it goes out But it's a no parking zone already and I and I know it's a potential conflict with the firetruck But it's it seems to me that's so rare that it's Just wondering if that was something that was looked into If you if you don't mind it We actually did an engineering study to determine whether or not we could safely have a bus queuing there and allow for the proper turning radius And we could not for the fire truck for the fire truck Okay, and then the other thing just on Broadway the 87 bus doesn't run on Sundays is there any way to Have allow parking on Sundays in front of playtime because playtime is open and The 87 bus is Monday through Saturday It stops at eight o'clock on Every night and seems to me it's a shame to lose two spaces when it's not like the 77 bus where you know It's running every day You know until the tea changes that I don't know if that's something that could be looked into that Would allow parking on Sundays. I can talk to the I can ask the tea it You know, they discussed with us sort of the signage that would need to be in place to say that is a lever location only It wouldn't be a pickup location, but just a drop-off location I don't know of any precedents offhand of something like that. I Imagine the MBTA would want to keep it Wouldn't want to make it confusing that you could park there only one day out of the week But I can bring it up with them and see what they think Mr.. Kiro and then mr. Hard First of all congratulations. This has been thank you. I'm sorry speaking to the mic. This has been pretty intractable If I could have just let it to ask one quite before I ask my question of the buzz one question on the meters that I failed to ask In what we approved I noticed we had the 15 minute grace period. Are they two meter spots? at two hour spots For I believe it for our yeah For okay. Thank you On on the bus is in retaining the the Broadway Plaza Stop for for getting on is that just being retained because it's more convenient for Folks at at Broadway Plaza. Is that the reasoning for? Retaining that or does it have to do with a need to turn around at that spot? And the reason I ask is is there any reason that the turnaround wouldn't be just right at Franklin Street, and then back Oh mess It runs away. Oh, bro. It's gonna come back. That's right. That's right We we did look at a possibility or a possible location of Coming turning left on Franklin and then right on Mass Ave so that would come out in front of the The fire station on Mass Ave where there are Where it is metered right now, but there's about eight spots and it would so it would hit a lot more Parking spaces there and then in order to keep it on the same route. I would have to turn on to Broadway Which is currently not legal right and so The other option, you know, we would have to go down Medford Street and then go down Warren And that would be a whole whole other Challenge to do that. So, okay. Yeah, it's my question I'll set mr. Chapter is on a motion by mr. Herd seconded by mr. Cureau any further questions or comments if not all those of a was a I opposed unanimous vote agenda item 18 Recommendations to address pond lane safety concerns. I'm sure that Mr. Amstutz, I know when we received the different requests around pond lane safety concerns Some were on the town public way some were on private land So whichever way you choose to delineate that I'm assuming you're probably gonna speak to each and say which ones is Town if any recommendation and which is private which we sure. Thank you. Sure so just some brief brief background or reminder there was a Resident Rebecca Drash lives on Lombard Terrace came to a Transmission Advisory Committee meeting and then sent a letter or email to the select board to request some She had some concerns about the traffic safety on pond lane and specifically between Wellington Street where it turns into pond lane to the bikeway and the overpass of pond lane there So that was referred to Department of Planning and Community Development, and so I went out and met with mr. Drash Early on in the year to talk about what the concerns were they were related to speeding and a lot of different users that are using the road because mainly again that that section That sort of winds through those residences and then it comes out onto the the parking lot next to spy pond park and There are People biking and walking and apparently somebody has chickens in a backyard there that sometimes get out onto the road And so we've got a lot of mixing Happening and then there are some pavement markings and signage that are out there That's a no parking on part of that section This section happens to be a private way The part that continues eastward towards Mass Ave between the bikeway bridge and Mass Ave is a public way so part of the research and Figuring out how to address this was was also addressing the private way issue So I did go meet with her I also went out a few months later and did some additional observations and took some measurements There were there there is a lot of traffic that's happening down there There is it is can be used as a cut through between Pleasant Street and Mass Ave Although my observations were that it was not sort of excessively so There's no part there's no sidewalks and part of the stretch mainly in this the private way between the Elks Lodge and Out to the the parking lot and to the park and so I also looked at some of the crash data That we have recently from Mass. Dot and from the police department The police department did not show any crashes that had occurred there over the last three years There was a report of a Truck running into the bridge into the the bikeway overpass at one point But they didn't find anything they didn't find the truck or apparent damage to the overpass so that was not included as part of this but Out of the seven crashes that I found between 2011 and 2014 Many of them seem to be associated with Vehicles running into parked vehicles or that were backing out of spaces in the parking lot or along near the Boys and Girls Club and much of the It's very difficult to really speed through that section given there's a hairpin turn sort of bright Right in the middle of it right before if you're going eastward right before the parking lot So there's also a question of replacing the speed bumps in front of the Boys and Girls Club, which I've discussed this with the legal department and Public Works and police and it's we don't install speed bumps or replace speed bumps They interfere with snow clearing operations. I did identify a few improvements that could be made Which which are detailed in here including some pedestrian warring signage in front of the Boys and Girls Club Which currently does not exist there's We've been looking at other Crosswalks around town and when you have parking directly in front of a crosswalk right in the direction of travel That is a huge impediment to site distance and for being able to see somebody that's waiting in the crosswalk So there's restricting that parking and part of the reason why we can do some of these I'll just ratchet go back to the issue of the private way since we own my understanding is we said we own property Adjacent to the private way. We are part owners with that section of the private way so we own the parking lot we own the park of course right next to the Right next to or across from the Boys and Girls Club. So we can restrict parking on that side of the road The other there there's a pole that's missing I went back and looked at the Transportation Advisory Committee reports that have been done for this over the last 10 years or so There have been two one relating to the renovation of the tennis courts and then one relating To a question about the the bridge and so they had recommended installing some signage about it being a one-lane bridge as a warning sign and One of those signs was missing on the on the parking lot side. I'm not I'm not sure why the other recommendations is to Have some yield lines on the side closer to mass av as you're approaching If you're coming from mass having you're approaching the bridge to have yield lines there And also to look and see if there's a need to have a low clearance sign along the bridge As there have been a couple of incidents with trucks I did observe a truck go underneath the bridge that was He must have he must have done it before because it It seemed very very tight But he it was an oil truck that was able to get through because it's it's very low. It's probably go through like this So so those are my my recommendations to Do some some traffic safety improvements that we can do But in the section between the boys and girls club and the parking lot for the park that is a private way the Property owners that are adjacent to that are the owners of that way. They would need to do the pavement markings Signage I made some suggestions of what that could be But mr. Ash would need to speak with those property owners to see if they could Make those improvements. Thank you First is there a motion to approve the recommendations for the the pond lane safety concerns by Some moved. Mr. Carroll seconded by mr. Hurd Any questions mr. Ducorsi? I get it wrong First of all, thank you for the thorough memos. I did meant to say that on the uh, the other The issues on broadway because it's it's been very helpful Any question on the yield to oncoming traffic recommendation? That's on the mass av side of That's that's for cars coming from mass av down towards the bike path. Is that correct? Okay And then the other question I had and I've seen this happen a couple times Sometimes it happens with school buses where they don't realize that they're bringing Student athletes to either spy ponds for baseball game or even for tennis and they don't realize that they're not going to be able to maneuver Past the boys and girls club and get out to mass av if it's if it's a full-length bus He was there any thought about maybe putting a sign up at the top Of wellington street just a warning because once you get down there I've seen a bus have to actually back all the way up because it just Can't turn around um that's a That's an interesting question. I hadn't thought of that or I didn't know that buses would necessarily It's very rare, but it's It happened. Um It's possible. I would have to look into that to see if um Because that's pretty it's sort of a far distance from the actual location of the bridge So it's sort of hard to say where um, it's appropriate to put that type of sign Okay, thank you Regarding the I drive down this road every day I think this bridge while everyone that drives there knows it's a pain to get through I think it's like down downing square. We always call it controlled chaos so You know people go slow and they deliberate at the risk of taking on You know hate mail on this Is there a place that they could put the boats on the other side of the bridge for the allington belmont Crew crew team that would be suitable Safe and secure So that they wouldn't have to carry it is there a location that would be feasible I don't want to take away their space. You know, I it's a limited time of the year and You know, it's just a couple hours a day, but it does sometimes coincide with rush hour. Yeah, and when the boats go through and the kid we have kids walking through and car is trying to Exasperated drivers that have been waiting trying to sneak through that's when I see the You know, the biggest concern in that particular area Then as I drive through the biggest safety concern that I see there Is pedestrians walking from the boys club back to the parking lot Because as you turn the way the road and I know that's the private way there But I guess this would be a question for dug for on the private ways is still a sidewalk on these roads, correct To some extent for the public to pass over You're saying that with respect to the public's right to traverse the private way itself, right? Yeah, so the private way. However, it was laid out and approved by the select board Or if it was later than that the board of survey, but in this case, I'm going to safely guess that it was The select board in that capacity However, the layout is designed that way it has to be available for Public to pass over now private ways if I understand the question the question correctly didn't necessarily include sidewalks or specific pedestrian Areas and so it can be a challenge because they may have only been laid out as a roadway without The specific I guess what I'm trying to get it is as you go through there. It's very I think there's some wood Railroad ties on one side and it's tight And it I think it's worth looking if we can if it's within our purview to do to see if any of those obstructions Block the public's right to pass through there because if there's a way my biggest concern is Children is parents walking with their children that the only place they can walk is right in the middle of the road And if Someone's not familiar with that particular road They come around the corner quick and there might be three kids right in front of them And there's nowhere else for them to go to access the parking lot on the other side If there's a way to put get pedestrians through there More safely, I think that would be a huge improvement for that area Carol I just had a quick question the the Memo says on segments upon lane that only have private of butters the private property owners are responsible for maintenance of traffic control pavement markings And warning signage, but there are limits to what type of traffic control a Resident on a private way can can actually put in I just wanted to make sure that we clarify that Here yeah That's correct. So part of the issue with speed bumps is Things like snow removal, but the other part of the issue is that if they're not part of the approved layout That's a modification to the grade That was approved by the board of survey Similarly, there are I'm going to think of the uniform traffic control design Regulations and you tcd manual on uniform traffic control devices I stand so There are requirements with respect to signage that doesn't necessarily mean that that signage can't be put up It's just things that needs to be followed and Cory from the police department And I think Jim Feeney are also Pretty familiar with ways and what types of signage Can be put up on private ways in terms of from that From complying with that perspective. It just doesn't necessarily require select board approval to put up a sign that says, you know Dangerous intersection or something like that if it's on a private way, but the signage still has to comply In terms of dcd. Yeah Thank you Anyone else if not on a motion by mr. Curell seconded by mr. Herd. Was that correct? Okay Any further questions or comments if not all those in favor say aye Aye those opposed unanimous vote. Thank you so much for all that work. That's a lot of work. Yeah I'll just talk about there. You're welcome Okay, we now go to if I'm missing anything somebody catch me agenda item 20 presentation pathway celebration And we have adria arch Cecily miller And hopefully a cooperating laptop Yeah That's That's the question Oh, so it is it's working. Yay A miracle Well, anyway, we can start talking. I'm adria arch I am Chair of arlington public art or the arts the public art commission committee of the arlington commission for arts and culture and I'm cecily miller. I'm the curator for public art for the town of arlington So we're really here today Just to give you a very quick overview of how well the summer has gone and some of the Really exciting progress that but that's not That's not what we're showing you and we were able to access the town's internet connection, which was really exciting Yeah And we wanted to invite you and everyone who is watching tonight and everyone who's not watching tonight to Celebrations that we're doing on the same weekend as town day So after a wonderful day experiencing the best that arlington has to offer a town day We're encouraging people to come to our pop-up dance party Hosted by the arlington service station from four to six on saturday And then the next day we'll be celebrating the public art a couple of public art initiatives. So we go to the next slide Um The commission launched something that they called live arts arlington this summer to test out busking In areas the busiest areas of town And so they used the broadway plaza and uncle sam plaza and Programmed 12 different performances usually solo or two people for small ensemble To bring music dance and visual art to public spaces in the cultural district To contribute to the town's economic social and cultural vitality And they got great feedback from it was this was like staffed entirely by volunteers and put together by the programs and festivals committee of the commission and They were amazing. They had these survey clipboards out and got a lot of really really supportive feedback from people in the town So next slide The uh, these are just a few photos. There was a puppet show very well attended by families wonderful Turkish Turkish style dancer jazz a woman sketching portraits next slide And then the culmination of these sort of live activities was a partnership with the arlington service station, which you might know the chamber of commerce Gave an award for business of the year for the transformation of the station into basically arlington's biggest piece of public art right this service station has become this giant sculpture covered with polka dots and stripes and The owner a very generously cleared it out and we had two Two live bands the school of hunk and the bittersweet band the bittersweet band Founder was the drummer for the village people So it was a really great time had by all which letter Um, so next slide So we're planning to do it again It was so it was so successful and it just seemed like well Let's try doing it on town day See if we can get people who are you know up on mass avenue to just come down the street And there are three going to be three performers. Um dan fox and his foxtet dan runs a music school Here in arlington called morningside music school and then the odaiko taiko drummers This is a japanese traditional form very dynamic. They also run a school run a school in arlington So there's kind of this cool Educational aspect to what they do and then a visiting band that can The founders actually from the dominican republic and they play a whole variety of latin dance music So that's a we're gonna get people doing salsa and merengue and so on so next slide Um, we won't go through this. I've sort of hit on those highlights. So next slide I'm gonna turn this over to adria to talk about so A lot of people have seen the painted transformer boxes everywhere through our arlington we did 2014 and 2015 and then we skipped a couple of years And this past year we acquired two local business owners especially in the center and the heights if There might be some businesses or organizations that might be willing to commission the Transformer boxes that we'd like to do and there were five that came forward, which was really exciting So we're really grateful to um ellen horn llc and custom contracting kickstand cafe Arlington center for the arts and If you're getting the other two next slide there And um, oh, yeah gen man chow Marshall out martial arts Uh, I think I mentioned everybody. Yes. I think that's it if I didn't I apologize for that But all five artists are local arlington Folks and so we're really excited to see more art All over the place while you're driving your car and things that children might really enjoy to see I'm just showing that we here in arlington really value creativity and uh, I think it sets a sort of way of thinking about life and finding Sort of joyful things and unexpected places. So We're really grateful to have this business partnership and community support this time to actually pay for and sponsor these these boxes And so originally we were going to celebrate the art on the minuteman And then we thought well we'll expand the celebration and people will get to meet and thank the artists who created these boxes So at um three o'clock we'll have taiko drumming outside the kickstand cafe As long as you give us permission to use that little bit of municipal plaza of town plaza and uh And honor and thank both the artists and the sponsors So now we'll go to the next slide and then we'll ask everyone to walk down the minuteman looking out for bikes And see some of the artwork that's along the minuteman bikeway and make their way to spypond park Where um, we'll have music and also a walking tour So once again to get to meet the artists and hear the ideas behind their pieces Most of these artists are very thoughtful and um have drawn inspiration from a variety of sources And it's really interesting to hear the stories of how they came up with their ideas so next slide and um We'll have a musical performance by the revolutionary snake ensemble, which is a group of jazz very prominent accomplished jazz musicians who are inspired by Mardi Gras and New Orleans. So it's good party music for a celebration um, so that's on sunday from three to six and next slide um The pathways initiative has funded by grants from the massachusetts cultural council Which is our state council for the arts and also by the arlington cultural council Which has now folded into the arlington commission for arts and culture and is the grants committee of of the commission so next slide And then we just want to you know, let everybody know that bikeway haiku is riding again We're putting about 30 haikus down starting at uncle sam plaza and extending west into the heights Again, it's temporary paint In fact the first set that we put down about a month ago are already pretty much faded out And we'll add a few more as the season progresses And this was really fun to to do the painting the actual painting on the path like people would be whizzing by and going I love this. Thank you And these guys stopped and they're had their incredibly adorable little dog. So we had to take a picture of them with this Poem that commemorates things that dogs can enjoy along the bikeway. So next slide So one of the commission's huge accomplishments was developing this quite large and robust website artsarlington.org and so We encourage people in the town to go to artsarlington.org to get information about the schedule for this celebration and for other upcoming events Any organization in arlington or any organization that's doing programming in arlington can post their arts and cultural events On the calendar of artsarlington.org. We want it to be the one stop Place so that people can find out what's going on in town if they want to Do classes with their kids or go and see theater or hear music at a local restaurant. So This is a sort of two-way announcement both Check it out for your own information. And also if you organize things, please promote them through artsarlington Thank you We ask for permission for the plaza and Also just to bag a couple of two adjacent parking meters Okay, so is there a motion to receive and endorse the pathway celebration out on the bike path presentation as well as a motion to approve Mr. Carroll I'll move although i'm going to then have a question So i'll move approval Motion to approve on sunday 9 15 at the public plaza and two adjacent public parking spots permission Between 3 p.m. At 6 p.m. 3 and 4 actually so all we need that public space for and we got permission already from another hour There's no metering on sundays So if you just need the spaces mark we need them so that the odiko drummers can zip in and park their cars Okay, is it still three to four? Yeah Okay, but the celebration is from three to six That's where i got three and and we got our permission from parks and recreation to use the spypond park So for that music down there Okay, so move by mr. Curo seconded by Second mr. Dunn mr. Curo. Yeah, my question was i'm just trying to get the clarification about exactly which which Plaza it wasn't clear to me So, you know the kickstand bikeway the kickstand cafe has some extra seating Where swan place and mass avenue meet I think they own that little extra Well, they've given us permission to so we'll be So it's probably we get everybody's It was a contested land we sort of we asked the planning department They said it depends exactly where it is best to ask you guys just to be sure So it is it's private property through which the bikeway right of way runs through So it's not there is it's a little interesting piece of land I I don't think there's any harm in the board endorsing the usage of it. Okay for this purpose. Okay, no problem That's what my dad would say government. You're gonna make it difficult But you're doing the right thing check all the spots and make sure you So and and we have asked the owners of the kickstand cafe And of course they sponsored the utility box that's right there So they'll be participating in the like the little thank you And meet meet and greet Yeah, I just I've been walking the bikeway every single day back and forth to to uh to work So I've really enjoyed your efforts, especially around the fill the gap If those who don't know fill the gap is the initiative in the arlington cultural district where We have an unusually large district including the center and east arlington and in order to kind of Fill in some of the cultural amenities and artistic amenities in between those two parts of town There's been an aggressive effort to To to put up public art along the bikeway there So I've really it makes it makes my day it makes makes my morning And I just had a question. Did you say that you just happened upon this this group with the with the dog? In the picture. Yes, did you? Yeah Because I'll just I'll just tell you the reason I was surprised. I thought it was purposeful because the um older daughter Uh, you'll be interested to know was one of the best artists at arlington high school and actually had a banner really ACAC's I didn't know that they didn't say so When I'm when I'm I mean I happen to be spray painting that day which I usually do with You know a volunteer or two, but that day I was on my own But it's always really great to be able to speak to people about their reaction to to to the work because Most of the time since our work is out there in public spaces We don't necessarily hear from people unless we're really out there with the clipboard or you know out there Kind of while we're painting it and it and they were They were really very supportive just phenomenal artists so track her down next time you have a transformer box. Yeah, yeah Sign her up Okay, um any further questions or comments on a motion by mr. Hero seconded by mr. Dunn Okay, it's all over the place all those in favor say aye. All those opposed unanimous vote. Thank you so much Thank you And and the last thing that I'll say is a big Thank you to you and to the town manager adam chaplain and the staff of the planning department All of whom, you know have have been instrumental all of you in in In helping the commission to grow and consolidate and coordinate and it's been a really impressive year where It's just a really impressive group and a really impressive year, so thank you Well, we really have been watching and enjoying the ride and the efforts of yourself and town employees and the manager for re-energizing vitalizing I know when years ago I talked to Lexington planning officials and how they Got so many tourists in there and they said and they asked us how we got so many restaurants in island But they said because tourists like to take pictures in front of things, you know Things that are colorful things they can interact with it doesn't necessarily have to be a statue of the minute man Which I love the minute man so and you'd be amazed you probably wouldn't be amazed You're probably seen in more than any of us have that I've actually seen people, you know Especially with the themed ones, you know taking pictures out there especially Younger kids young ins that love to do selfies of everywhere But and I think it in whatever way you can appreciate it really helps to make the town More welcoming or as welcoming as you know, sort of like a subliminal message You know that we care about you when we care about how we look and present ourselves, so We thank everybody you said And we're just along for the ride and thank you so much Thanks. Have a good night Next we go to does anyone need to break Oh, should we go right to agenda item 21? Um, do you want to break? All right I'll turn to our vice chair. Mr. Dunn Thank you, madam chair. Uh, so bylaw We as a select board can't get involved in personnel issues And as a member of the select board, it's been a really uncomfortable time for me where an important dialogue has been happening But I don't have an appropriate way to participate in or lead the discussion because I can't because I can't get involved in the personnel issue Uh, and the open letter from the town manager gave us an ad avenue I think to have a productive conversation and so I asked the chair to put this item on the agenda We're still not able to be involved in the personnel issue Which I think is inevitably going to lead to some awkwardness in this conversation Because there are going to be some of our conversational threads that lead into dead ends But I still think of the cut that what we can do tonight is is worth it Um, as I think it's important for me to include before I talk about this that my I personally deplore the statements made by lieutenant Padrini They're racist and harmful to the community and harmful to the reputation of the police force And furthermore, they're contrary to the town's policies on race and inclusion But my goal tonight isn't to dwell on that specifically my goal is to endorse the town manager's open letter I'm prepared to make a motion later if needed But for now I just want to call out some of the key points that I think are important from the town manager's letter So one of the points is just that earlier this summer our petition was circulating that contained a number of demands And four out of the five of them were met by town action The letter outlines an increase in police force training including six different modules and courses that I think are really positive The letter outlines a new working relationship with the league of national league of cities One of the results of that is going to be training for For race and equity to managers and supervisors across all town departments And those of you who are regular attendees that are meeting know That adam has been working on this project for over a year ever since a return from an NLC conference and heard some of the powerful stories of the work that they had been doing for race and equality and other In cities particularly And also it's worth noting that we're adding a new position in town government the coordinator of diversity equality and conclusion This position has also been in the work for many months was approved by town meeting this spring The report also talks about ongoing work with the consensus building institute known as cbi and I look forward to reading and benefiting from What they have to say as well I've received several emails in the last couple of days by the way that say that we should wait for the cbi before we talk any further I I know that the letter includes the cbi as a Process that needs to be continued and the and and so I really I don't see any conflict whatsoever We can endorse this letter and we can receive the report and work with it and We're not For clues if we're closing one or the other In the same vein I've received a couple emails suggesting that a vote tonight was a premature attempt to close off this issue And I just wanted to say we're not closing it off If we endorse the town managers and in fact quite the opposite We're endorsing the continuation of the work that the town has been doing on race inequality We weren't done with race inequality when we created the human rights commission in 1993 which was years before I moved into town We weren't done when we created an inclusionary zoning. We weren't done when we defined protected classes in town And established what it means to protect them. We weren't done when we added gender preference to that list of protected classes The human rights campaign issues a report card every year and we successfully improved our score each year And even if we get a perfect score next year, we still won't be done We weren't done when we renamed the board of select meant to be the select board And we're not going to be done when we endorse the town managers tonight I'll take that as a motion to approve sir second Mr. Herd um I what I will say is um I I think my colleague for bringing this issue because it's sort of been percolating in many different ways um, there's been a lot of good discussion and and good ideas and words formed around this and there's also been some unfortunately intended or unintended really negative consequences um in terms of In my personal opinion some of the websites facebook instagram twitter God bless you um That really have in my opinion um painted this town with an unfair fair brush brush um I am going to going to try to stick to what i've done since day one on the board both sides of the table have respect and civility civility towards each other uh recognizing that this board cannot discuss Or have a forum to talk about an employee issue to motion promotion Raise anything like that that um, I agree with my colleague mr. Dunn that uh If the rest of my colleagues agree that we should um support and uh approve the action steps Not just what have been taken, but will continue to be taken and and just be mindful that you know We really do have a lot of viewers that um watch these meetings It's an always shocked by I tell them to watch whale of fortune or something. This is a joke, but um As it has been said to me by some of you and by others Words matter and words hurt a lot. Um, if you could kind of keep that in mind Because I can tell you haven't spoken with uh A large number of the men and women um at the ollington police department who I have nothing but utmost respect for And always have and we've heralded them out um For their initiatives not just saying proactive being proactive including restorative justice, which I had to really be educated about in the beginning um I can tell you whether A person or person's means to do this. Um The morale in the atmosphere that has been created around this issue. It's really ugly and sad And I think most if not all don't intend to do that. I mean, I would hope that So I'm going to give everyone um three minutes tonight to talk Um, please bear in mind. We're here to talk about the action the letter that the town manager Put out to address this and we're endorsing that and whether you Agree we should endorse his action plan or not. I'd be happy to hear that. So I'll call on the first speaker Which was Oh, I'm sorry. Does anyone else on the board want to speak now? Um, mr. Currow. Yeah, I I do have a prepared statement. I hope it's not out of scope I'm going to say that at the outset. It's not it's not typical for me to to prepare, but I've done a lot of thought on this So as my colleagues know, um This past summer I went on an extended religious pilgrimage of my daughter And this was a time of spiritual retreat for most of my professional personal and civic concerns Uh with the notable exception they asked my family to inform me of the dead exclusion override results We visited the uh Cruz de ferro way up on a Spanish mountain top We're for centuries millions of pilgrims have left stones that they carry from home and left behind the symbolic releases of their life's burdens And I'm proud to say that that pile of stones now includes a piece of brick shrapnel from our linkedin center And another piece of the crumbling steps of fusco house Um now these are burdens that I was able to leave behind But there is one burden which tries I might have not I've been unable to shed and that's a great matter that's before us this evening I admit That I was extremely uncomfortable with the inclusion of this agenda item And it's not because I have a problem with supporting the manager's efforts at public engagement and communication because I don't Rather right fear as I think you rightly stated mr. Dunn That we run the risk of sowing additional confusion about the limits of our authority Nearly 12 years ago after assuming elective office I was confronted with the unenviable task of batting cleanup for a personnel mess That never should have been before me and my colleagues in the first place I have zero desire to repeat that experience My message to constituents has been consistent Personnel matters with very few exceptions of the purview of the town manager and not of this board Disregard for the separation of powers and political interference and personnel administration Has a tendency to aggravate already bad situations and to make them worse I know that there's a desire on the part of some residents to continue to debate the appropriateness of restorative justice for this matter But I'm afraid that that ship has sailed and in any case, it's not this board's decision to make That said I've been very open about the fact that I was originally intrigued by and supportive of the idea of channeling Lieutenant Padrini through the very process that he so vehemently denigrated As a means of demonstrating to him directly the worth of restorative justice Having learned from my recent experience though I could not advocate for restorative justice for personal matter of this nature in the future My observation is that restorative justice in a case like this sometimes weakens the privacy protections of traditional personnel proceedings while simultaneously creating unrealistic expectations About just how public the process can be This is particularly problematic when there's not one discrete victim rather a diversity of difficult to reach populations Under these circumstances, it is nearly impossible to envision a condition of universally acknowledged closure It's a herculean task to navigate so many challenges Now I've struggled my emotions and I keep returning the same place I'm I'm angry And anger is not I don't anger easily But I'm I'm angry that a high ranking officer of the island police department Saw fit to so sully the uniform of the apd by sounding racist dog whistles and making intemperate calls to violence And flouting the very policies and practices of this board Town meeting other town leadership and residents and his very own colleagues on the arlington police department have done so much to promote Now let's take a look at a few examples starting with the suggestion that central american refugees should be shot Arlington is the home to the guatemala aid fund which partners with local houses of worship on humanitarian missions to central america And our town has an official sister city relationship with teosinte el sabador This latter effort which is supported by this board Spring out of arlingtonians desire to assist victims of el sabador's brutal civil war Many of whom became refugees One of the founders was our recently departed friend judy paradis Who even in death and in true judy fashion? Continues to inspire support for immigrant immigrant rights through her request for memorial donations to the advocacy organization central presente The spirit of this spirit of compassion led to tireless efforts by this board Working closely with police leadership the town manager From a chief ryan cap and current To pass the trust act resolution We had one of the best attended warrant article history hearings in our history and we won an overwhelming vote of support from town meeting The primary goal of the trust act resolution was to ensure that our immigrant community Would not be afraid to contact law enforcement and my fear is that lieutenant padrini's call to violence undoes much of this work Let's consider another faulty assumption on lieutenant padrini's articles That those who are concerned with police involved deaths of men of color are a pre-orienti police This is flat out wrong in the facts on the ground in arlington showed us Since ferguson and other highly publicized national incidents Many of our churches have displayed black lives black lives matter banners At the same time these very same religious communities have partnered with the arlington police department On efforts ranging from gun buyback programs to finding solutions to curb mass incarceration When one of the banners was vandalized the apd located the offenders and worked with the impacted church to pursue restorative justice That church later rotated in a banner thanking the police for their work and keeping our community safe Our police department has cosponsored along with the diversity task group this board And 22 other community-based organizations heavily attended community conversations around unconscious bias As the manager's letter details a continuing series of internal police department trainings relating to bias has also been scheduled Now one area of training not mentioned in the manager's letter in which i consider extremely important is de-escalation training I was extremely Disturbed that lieutenant padrini railed in his columns against de-escalation Although his published a policy asserts a change of heart Members of the board will recall that we were invited two years ago To observe de-escalation training that was made available to the police department by sheriff katushin and which was coordinated by officer hogan This was one of the most impactful experiences of my seven and a half years on this board Video simulations were used to train officers to make snap decisions To lower the temperature of tense situations with verbal commands were possible Employing lethal force only went necessary I considered de-escalation training and our continued use of a police department clinician To assist individuals mental health and substance abuse challenges to be two of our most effective tools for keeping both our community and our police safe Because let's make no mistake about it It's a dangerous world out there and this chapter in our town's history has unfortunately triggered many people's worst fears For some people these feel fears are very real Despite continual assurances and the fact that we on this board know that our community is overwhelmingly well served by the women and men of the olington police department To make matters worse reactions and perceptions of individuals engage in our recent conversations have been influenced by a national narrative For example We meet here mere weeks after a shooter in al Paso targeted latino victims We saw the npd why nypd officer who killed eric garner released from duty for using excessive force And last month the proceedings of the national academy of sciences published research estimating the black men and boys Have a one in one thousand chance of dying from police violence To date this year 623 people of all races Have been shot and killed by police in the united states During the same time 85 officers around the country have suffered line of duty deaths 33 of these by gunfire Last month we witnessed an eight-hour standoff in philadelphia where an individual shot and wounded six officers And around the time of lieutenant paredrini's columns. We saw two massachusetts police officers killed I know that these murders deeply affected law enforcement officials everywhere and they hit very close to home for me Very close to home I grew up in weymouth and I lived for a time on the very road where sargent chesner and an innocent bystander were murdered My wife graduated from high school in yarmouth with sargent gannon served We drive past the blue ribbons in his memory every time we visit her family So I think you all get the point I'm disgusted by lieutenant paredrini's columns because of the targeting of vulnerable communities their lack of restraint In their role in sparking a public backlash that has drained goodwill And put the hardworking women and men of the arlington police department of our professional management team under a microscope This has divided our community Which brings me full circle to my pilgrimage One of the women I met this summer Was from south africa As a young journalist she had covered archbishop desmond tutu's weekly ecumenical gatherings to fight apartheid She confided that she'd become quite friendly with tutu and that she had actually been invited to his home to celebrate his wedding anniversary The evening before our conversation What does that have to do with us? Well, it made me think After winning the nobel peace prize desmond tutu shared south africa's truth and record Chared south africa's truth and reconciliation It was charged with the superhuman task of helping the country to heal from the atrocities of its past What we are dealing with in arlington is bad, but it utterly and completely pales in comparison If south africa could move forward and find a path to civil solutions following decades of human rights abuses I think that a town of 46 000 people can find a way to move forward too Deescalation training for police officers is important But we can all exercise another form of deescalation and turn down the volume just enough that we can truly hear one another On the central question before us this evening The manager is completely within bounds to share his thinking with the public regarding an issue of such community importance And to outline a timeline of events and actions This is especially important given forceful counter narratives that have challenged his motives methods and intentions As I would expect the town manager's accepted responsibility for key decisions in this matter As to the letter itself I venture to guess that every single person in this room could highlight suggested areas for addition omission Alteration or clarification, but I see no benefit in conducting a community copy editing session for a letter that has already been released Or even in focusing our vote on this one document to be honest Okay So that said I would I would still like to highlight one of the letter's promises of a commitment by lieutenant padrini to engage in further community dialogues In order to advance healing in the community It's extraordinarily important to find a way For lieutenant padrini to interact directly and in a safe environment With a broader cross-section of those expressing fear or upset So that he and they can get beyond the caricatures of one another Recognize each other's shared humidity And maybe move the needle a little bit to it toward a better arlington So madam chair with your indulgence and I apologize because of open meeting. I did not distribute this previously I have a recommended multi-part vote. It's really much more akin to a resolution and inform if I might distribute it and Offer it as a proposed substitute motion It's on the table And with your indulgence, I'll I'll read it while Board members are absorbing it It is voted that the arlington select board rejects writings of lieutenant Richard padrini in the sentinel that assault human dignity and contravene the policies and decisions of the arlington select board Arlington police department arlington tau meeting and other applicable municipal authorities And it is further voted that the arlington select board affirms the tau managers legal authority to make personnel decisions And fitness for duty determinations in conjunction with responsible members of his management team and in conformance With applicable provisions of collective bargaining agreements and governing statutes policies and regulations And it is further voted that the arlington select board supports efforts by the tau manager and arlington police department to communicate and engage with the public To the greatest extent practicable and appropriate utilizing a variety of means including without limitation Written communications third-party mediation and outreach initiatives like the citizens police academy And it is further voted that the arlington select board advocates for staff training in areas including bias identification and mitigation and deescalation And it is further voted that the arlington select board urges maximal effort to extend communication and engagement initiatives To all protected classes enumerated in title two article nine section two c of the town bylaws And the training initiatives likewise address the discreet needs of said classes And it is further voted that the arlington select board encourages all residents to avail themselves of engagement opportunities With the arlington police department and other town authorities and to assist in making these known and available to marginalized populations Okay, um is there a second for that motion also Second Mr. Corsi if I may could I ask I know it's a first read for everybody town council if there's anything in here Where we overstep our bounds or charge Madam chair to my understanding the breadth of the the scope of the vote is to articulate the select board's affirmation of the existing structure of the town's Distribution of authority under the town manager act And further articulates a position with respect to what is a public and Sort of political matter on the general subject of concern and then proceeds to endorse a variety of positions with respect to Certain types of things the manager is referenced in his letter existing town bylaws And advocates for the encouragement of both town departments And staff and local residents to engage each other in the what manner described herein Is not appeared to me to be a directive To the manager that he shall Make certain personnel decisions or shall direct the police department to Engage in a specific course of contact as much as it is A statement much like town meetings resolutions Of a set of values held by the select board if indeed the select board chooses to endorse this position I think that's a fair characterization of it. I don't want to speak for mr. Currow, but I've received this in reddit. I think that's how I would view it Yes, the madam chair I will I will state that I I shared this with council to to pass up I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's very important. I really this is really I've been advised in the past not to put the motions out. It would be board information On a very important issue And I assume mr. Chapter lane that that would be the spirit and intent with which if this Motion were successfully as well as Dan's that this board is not exerting any undue pressure or I'm issuing any directive to you in the course of Your duties as town manager Just reading it now and hearing council's opinion. I think that is fair to say Okay um So for now we have two motions on the table I don't know if either of my other colleagues have questions if I should call on members from the audience I personally would like to hear from the members of the audience and then office reserve comments Okay, I'd like to defer my comments until here from the public as well Okay, um, I'll just call everybody up Please be respectful as we all are you all are and mindful of the process of what the statements have been here tonight Because I'd like to start healing a lot of the open wounds that everybody shares and and not exacerbate them anymore because Um, I've really been upset and disheartened by the way Arlington, Massachusetts has been portrayed by small minority throughout the nation Which is exact total opposite of what's here. So Um, and I'm gonna have to stick to the three minutes. So I'm not trying to be disrespectful. Uh, john ward Was he here for Just name an address for the record, please Even though I just said your name Is john Oh, okay. I'm sorry, jordan Hi, good evening. Jordan Weinstein, uh, lennon road arlington. I'm a town meeting member precinct 21 First I'd like to commend the leadership of the town for the work that's been done so far in attempting to resolve the harm done By the in my opinion the racist xenophobic and bigoted columns written by lieutenant padrini However, I feel that more needs to be done even more than Uh, what joe has offered this evening first It's true that lieutenant padrini included an issue to public apology in his writings But in self characterizing his columns is simply quote careless and crude He fell very short in his apology in my opinion What was missing was his acknowledgement Which was made tonight that his writings were actually racist xenophobic and in one case encourage police to use violence Against immigrants his words have caused members of our community to feel unsafe unprotected and vulnerable knowing That someone with those views is walking our streets armed in a position of such authority over their lives To begin with I'd like to ask that members of the select board in fact do postpone Any action tonight regarding the town managers open letter to the community and wait until all stakeholders have had a chance to review The pending report from the consensus building institute the cbi. I see no reason to to move on this at this point Further, I'd like to see the town do five things provide transparency on the already used restorative justice process with involving a third party legal counsel who can articulate what the town's options were At the time and are currently and to conclusively advise the community of arlington whether or not termination is or was An option for lieutenant padrini because we feel that there is some question about The logic and the rationale we we can't discuss termination. You're really going to fire field Just please be respectful of the second to provide clarification on why the select board originally chose not to get involved In this personnel issue But is now voting on endorsing a town manager letter without further engagement with the public stakeholders Number three explain why the town manager ignored reservations Expressed by former police chief ryan who voiced them about pursuing restorative justice in this case And the chief's belief that padrini would not have the ability to honestly express remorse We don't think that he has disclose number four the full contents of lieutenant padrini's 2002 restraining order case and the 2014 case brought to light by attorney howard freedman as well as the financial cost the town incurred In settling those cases and finally to keep lieutenant padrini on administrative assignment for the remainder of his contract Thank you Lynette martin Just naming address for the record Hi, my name is Lynette martin 18 Eustis street Thank you for engaging the public on this issue Rather than endorse this letter among other things we would urge the select board to endorse Um the following actions in order to reestablish trust with the community and I have a list of them that I'll be submitting I won't read them all to you But the most important would be for lieutenant padrini to remain on administrative assignment for the remainder of his contract To ensure the safety of the town and to reduce further trauma to citizens Additionally I am one of the stakeholders referred to in the town manager's letter Based on the concerns that have risen due to this evening's vote the CBI consultant called for a last minute conference call with a group of us in order to get some clarity The results of this call leave me even more concerned First of all it should be noted that at the start of the process many of the stakeholders were concerned about whether or not CBI was in fact an objective third party that could best represent racial justice issues They had an existing relationship with arlington the consultant stacey as a resident And it wasn't until recently that some of us put together that she is a town meeting member Among the concerning items that came out of the conference call Was stacey's concern regarding the term stakeholder which she views as an overstatement despite the fact that the town manager has repeatedly used that term four times in the letter that you're talking about endorsing And uh foyer emails show he has responded to town meeting members telling them this situation is more or less being Emiliated by the group which he refers to as a stakeholder group the term stakeholders implies more weight when in fact a true group of stakeholders has yet to been Compiled and requires a more involved process that more truly reflects harmed individuals stake in the issue the meetings We have convened so far We're just supposed to be the beginning of a conversation to assess if collaboration was possible Stacey also advises the situation now has escalated way beyond what was originally envisioned and that there are very conflicting ideas from the town Regarding what it wants and what is happening and what those she has talked with want while she noted There are some places where we can collaborate There are many places where it does not seem possible and at this point of escalation She notes it may not even be possible or we may be past that point of collaboration I would like to insert here that I strongly disagree with this assertion The town manager and select board has yet to sit in on any of these sessions And it feels to us that the process has not even yet begun Despite the fact that community members many of them have the impression that it's been completed as noted on various social media posts Stacey suggested that we request to enter into the record the actual contract the town has with cbi on this particular issue Our concern is the town management and by extension the select board are simply cherry picking a few low hanging fruit measures We have talked about that the petition has focused on while ignoring the rest of our concerns and our greater request For the town to develop a plan to restore trust Instead they're using the existence of this group and process while overstating its intention And role in order to sell a narrative that the town has done its due diligence to address the needs of those harmed Or who continue to be concerned over this issue? It has not this is an exact repeat of how they used an illegitimate Illegitimate restorative justice process to make it seem like they properly handled lieutenant padrini When in fact there was no action. Thank you. Thank you very much Does everybody here you're beyond the three minutes. Do you want to say one more sentence that maybe doesn't slam a town employee? members of the community as can be seen in numerous I would argue that the amount of risk we put the town in by opening ourselves up to litigation from any future arrest involving An immigrant addict person of color or even the activist far outweighs the litigation risk from lieutenant padrini. Thank you very much Thank you very much. I'm sorry I'm sorry. Please be respectful on the process. You're really not that's not very respectful I'm shaleen pokris 51 crossby street First I want to thank the select board for engaging the public on this critical issue in Rather than assuming that mr. Chapp Delaney's letter sufficiently addresses the concerns of this very diverse community Before I begin it's important to acknowledge the privilege that I personally possess as a white person in Good physical and mental health With financial stability that brings me here before you tonight rather than perhaps someone From one of the marginalized communities who better represents the communities Against which officer Officer Richard Padrini has demonstrated himself to hold dangerous bias I urge the select board to endorse the following actions And to not endorse anything tonight We would like to see lieutenant padrini remain on administrative leave Um Until after the cbi Report um, and this should not include any assignments that involve supervising children such as the schools that my children go to Like the high school last blasts the town should formally request that lieutenant padrini step away Um, you do recognize we can't do that this board This is the letter that you would endorse from mr. Chapp with chapter lane The town should only endorse things that request that lieutenant padrini step away from all mpa connections As of that's the mass police association as of today his name and pictures still appear on the mpa website under the executive board This is despite an email dated march 2019 from then chief ryan where he stated that Rick's mpa work has become a distraction to his duties at apd and the culture of the mpa is not reflective of the culture of the town of Arlington nor the apd That is not likely to change any time in our lifetime The last time i attended one of their meetings they gave a standing ovation in response to an announcement of a fatal police shooting As an element of any credible restorative justice contract. I think that he needs to step away from the mpa His picture is on their website right now. You can bring it up right now Fred ryan continued as I understand it Rick attended a patrol officer. This is at arlington police department and the officers gave him an award And fred ryan says this is indicative of the harm that this can cause To the this is an adverse impact on the credibility of the apd So, uh, I know the board can't do anything about this But I would urge you to not endorse anything from mr. Tapeltine that does not reflect this that Padrini should not be involved with the mpa because arlington Can exert pressure on the officers that serve our community in closing? I just want to share that I've all been educated in arlington public schools. I've lived in arlington almost half my life. I love this town Um, my college age daughter is in her third year of studying criminal justice at the university of maryland And I have learned a lot through her eyes Um, my eyes have been open to the far-reaching effects of police bias Okay, thank you. You have power. Please everyone stick to the three minute You can't about the padrini case. Please and not just those who have the privilege of making their voices heard I'm you know what? I'm not going to just keep repeating myself because I know you all understand it And this is sort of a form of protest but attorney heim could you just very briefly? In terms of the board directing the manager who is an employee that we oversee Evaluate higher etc Legally what we can and cannot direct the manager to do to any particular town employee and We're going to hear it again and again, but I'd like to at least get it on the record So as I understand the question it's to just restate that the board of the select board does not have The authority to make personnel decisions or direct personnel decisions To be made for those employees who are supervised by the town manager, which is most town employees There are some exceptions Which the board is aware of but members of the police department Are not subject to the board making a personnel decision with respect to hiring Firing conditions of employment, etc. So I appreciate what the chair is saying because I understand All the comments that are being made by members of the public and the conviction with which they feel them But the board itself does not have a role in Making a personnel decision of any kind nor is it really able to discuss a personnel decision With respect to what should or shouldn't be done regarding Discipline Okay, thank you And I just share that because I'm frustrated because I kind of do want to say something back But then legally anybody Here in the room tonight or even watching this could Basically take my actions under question as it's being illegal. So And and also please be mindful of It's okay No, it's not a back and forth. You get to make three minutes and that's it Please be mindful of you know, we went through this about 15 years ago Where citizens What I think you're attempting to do And it harmed this town and divided it and took us like 10 years to get back and nobody won Oh, please sit down Please sit down I'm sorry, that's not how this meeting is run. You're not being very respectful I'm trying to be very respectful to you But you at least need to respect the process and not yell out questions next is robin bergman Madam chairman may I say one thing? I do want to make clear what the select board is saying Folks can speak About what they want And to say whatever they want with the particular statement I think the intent of what the chair Is saying is only to understand that the select board does not have the ability to address some of the things but if folks are free to say What they want in terms of what their perspective is but the board is unable to do something about Many of the things that are being discussed. Thank you. Thank you for waiting I'm robin bergman from 320 park avenue As an orlington resident since 1980 a homeowner and one of the stakeholders Interviewed by stacey smith. I ask you not to endorse this letter at this time by the town manager And not to declare the issue settled and to make it clear to the town Not just this meeting that the issue is not finished I also urge that lieutenant padrini remain on administrative assignment To ensure the safety of the town and for reduce further trauma to citizens I also ask For the select board to grant the cbi stakeholders a closed-door meeting to discuss this further I also would like to read As much as I can A letter to the board from lanette culver house who's out of town and can't be here I know I won't be able to finish it, but I can give you a copy of it To the select board members I have been an orlington resident since 1984 and was part of the stakeholder group Convened by cbi to provide a report and recommendations to the town manager On how best to move forward and repair the damage caused by padrini's hate filled writing The obvious presence within our police department of racism and hatred in itself is shocking But our leader's response to it has been passive and flawed and demonstrates an unwillingness to address the great harm done by it We have always prided ourselves on being a progressive oasis But we are far from a model of that We are showing our white privilege and fragility and an opportunity to come together and heal is being lost This is a moment in the history of our town where we can do some really meaningful Individual and community work to overcome the overbearing yoke of racism and hate and become a more compassionate and united town The damage we are doing to the future of the town by failing to address this Is evidence of our elitism and will create more division and less safety for our children and future generations I am calling on you now to show leadership and courage by first and foremost publicly labeling and now denouncing the words of padrini as racist And acknowledging that we have racist attitudes in our police force People of color know this as well as their allies By calling it what it is we are not only letting the community know that we have their backs But also informing other racists and haters in town that orlington will not tolerate it You have to take leadership on this because mistakes have been made And not to do so paves the way for further incidents of hatred something we have already experienced In addition, I ask you to exercise oversight and authority to get us to a place of civility and closure As the town manager has not done and for you not to assume responsibility for the process Is nothing short of protectionism stacey smith of cbi was invited to talk with some of the stakeholders in town and produce a report of recommendations But adam chapter lanes letter to the town was written before her report is even released And is therefore a slap in the face to all the stakeholders and a front to the huge piece of work done by stacey smith Thank you. Thank you. I'm letting everyone go three and a half minutes just in case you're wondering but um, but could you Give it to mrs. Kruppalka, and then that will be in the record as well as we'll all have it. Thank you so much Um, sorry eric paul And you can just raise that up cable will send me a little signal. Thank you Thank you, and you'll start my three and a half minutes. No, pardon me. You'll start my three minutes. No I don't start it till you say your name and address. I don't count that. Thank you. I might need them My name is eric paul. I live at 285 massachusetts happening Like others here. I'm asking that the board Not endorse the town manager's letter tonight Rather than that I I ask that we all pay attention to and listen to The words that have been said tonight regarding the safety of the community and also sending a message to other racists and Out there whether they're in the force or not That we keep lieutenant if you can't be terminated keep lieutenant padrini on an administrative assignment Want to talk about why I don't think you should endorse town manager's letter because according to Number of authorities and and scholars in restorative justice restorative justice wasn't completed here You can call it restorative justice, but that doesn't mean that it conforms to or aligns with Leading understanding of restorative justice in a number of ways. I could read here From the texts, but that would be very dry rather than doing that I'm going to say that arlington has finally made itself a case study in another area It's a case study according to multiple at least two scholars in how not to do restorative justice it's entering panel discussions and And teaching Material relating to how not to do restorative justice. That's the case study arlington has accomplished Um instead of reading the dry text, I'd like to read from actual restorative justice participants as they wrote town manager One Of restorative justice person who is trying to help write the apology for padrini Or add or edit to it's really not my place to give additions or edits to a grown person who is apologizing He is not the one that has had to live with and face whatever comes from it Plus if you he incorporated my feedback how sincere would it be? If it did not come from him, wouldn't I be putting words in his mouth? To me this apology sounds weak compared to his original words that were so very strong and toxic Diane words do matter. His words are still damaging the trust of the community and immigrant communities our words Which you are so careful to curate Are in response to police threats to the community Restored finally another participant said restorative justice is supposed to be victim centered It is supposed to identify and this was a restorative justice participant Restorative justice is supposed to be victim centered It is supposed to identify who's been harmed and identify ways to help heal these harms So far the process has failed the goal of healing harms and to the social fabric of arlington um It was I think an error to depart from the standard c4rj process by not inviting all community members who participated The opening circle to participate in the closing circle I'm asking you not to endorse town manager's letter because part of it is patently false According to even the restorative justice circle members themselves that the circle has not been completed again I'd prefer that we have a a different legacy in terms of restorative justice than the case study that we've provided as how not to Apply restorative justice You made it just a three and a half and um, if anybody Has any testimony they want to submit or they read tonight and they didn't think you please email it to The board of administrative mrs. Cropelka. We can enter all that into the record So if you don't get to say everything and you want it's voluntary you can Give that to mrs. Cropelka next I have mona mandal And you could just bring that down Cable Hi, I'm mona mandal. I live in 14 water street and I'm also a town meeting member um, thank you for engaging the public on this issue and You know, even though you've taken the vote you've made up your mind. I think it's important that the public Also has a space to talk. We haven't taken any vote. I'm taking any vote. Okay Listen there's two years one month. All right. I'm gonna pause this because we interrupted you a little go ahead um, I I wanted to register My concern with this like board with endorsing this letter by the town manager I would also like the board to take into consideration The concerns of the people from the petition. I'm one of the person who signed the petition with over 800 signatures and 20 organizations and 10 of the town meeting members um Right now we are you know the situation we are in it's it's a this We see a lot of hatred Hate incidents and things like that coming up. That's one of the reasons I ran for town meeting member And so this touches me in a different way than each one of you Okay, so I want you say words matter You're right words matter And so I this is not the This is not what I thought I was going to say So I would really like you to think about the chilling message that you're Giving by endorsing this letter I would really ask you to consider and take into account some of the concerns that So many people have towards this issue I Appreciate it what joe said very much About some of the social justice issues and I connected to the some of the words he said But that he also said you know what that's all that i'm going to sign I think we should do this. This is the right approach and I think That also sends a message to everyone who's here Speaking about this issue I would also like to ask that the select vote think about this decision and The town needs to focus on healing and coming together and it's important that you don't call the people who are raising these issues As divisive I think you keep referring to that As that and it's very hurtful as a person of color You may not share That's just how it's coming out. So I just I apologize then I really I don't think you're responsible for the arlington racism Racism and arlington racist Posts and things like that. So I apologize if I relate that to you Say that that that comes off as that way. So you as select board and town manager You need to be mindful of how you're dealing with this issue Especially to the person of color in the community. We're silent. We are not saying anything But we're watching all the boards and it's terrifying Being in this kind of situation if we don't have the support off our select board So So that's why I'm also calling If you can just do one more sound you're at three and a half minutes I'm you people don't have to take the whole three but Can you say one more sentence and if you want to submit the rest to mrs. Korpalka? Yes um a quick one and I would just really urge the select board to not endorse this letter and to Give some of the consideration to some of the issue a little bit more like the cbi report. Thank you. Thank you Forrest snider Yes, hello for snider 15 allen street here in arlington um I would urge that this letter not be endorsed this evening and that It get more consideration be given. I would like to submit to the to the board and I guess to the secretary that There are some facebook pages from lieutenant padrini that I'd like them to see And i'm gonna read a prepared statement Uh a visit to padrini's uh facebook page recently revealed the following In addition to the likes that padrini gave to those spreading white supremacist messages two pages stand out And this is just uh within the last uh few weeks One is called proud infidels and the other is called drug enforcement cops proud infidels is an islamic phobic reference There can be no mistake as to the racist intentions of this page. It's not subtle It contains graphics of a man bearing a gun with an american flag in front of his face and the tagline I am the infidel your a la warned you about other memes uh refer to female members of the us house of representatives as strippers And shame their attire Other posts discuss immigrants as enemies for whom violence needs to be an option in handling if they do not respect the united states The other page uh drug enforcement cops Carries the insignia of a skull with a crack pipe and drug syringe instead of crossbones This page is filled with youtube videos Memes and other clips that mock degrade and applaud violence on those who have substance abuse disorders Okay, I would just because we really can't try somebody who's not here So i've let you go far field on that and the manager has heard it So please could you get to the vote and what you'd like us to do? I stated that at the beginning not to have you uh support this motion this evening I don't want any town employee saying I allowed him or her to be tried at this public hearing I'm not trying anyone. I'm okay, but could you please get back to this subject go ahead I'm simply i'm just trying to run a legal meeting. That's all okay. I appreciate that. I'm sorry. No don't don't apologize. That's fine Um, I'm also a court reporter. I'm gonna add some to your time. That's why so I got a little lot knowledge is a dangerous thing, but go go ahead. I'm sorry Well, let me just sum up even even these passing glances tells us what these pages are about They cannot be dismissed as a mistake or something that one did not understand So I ask that um, you do not endorse this this letter this evening and that further work be done And I would just note that as a privileged white male very well educated Never in trouble with the police. Frankly. I am scared right now of what this police department is about My safety in this community if I'm going to be targeted, etc. Thank you. Thank you for being so understanding Yeah Eli gures on You're welcome. My name is ellie gures on ellie. I'm sorry. No problem My family first moved to arlington in 1990 Went to bishop school and I've lived here off and on as an adult Thank you for engaging in this public process I am asking you rather than endorse this letter among other things We would urge the select board to endorse the following actions in order to reestablish trust with the community One lieutenant padrini should not get any detail work that exposes the public to risk Lieutenant to lieutenant padrini should not qualify for overtime Three lieutenant padrini should disavow the words he wrote and name them as racist The town should public for the town should publish a public apology to black lives matter Which has been maligned in multiple publications by lieutenant padrini town leadership should personally reach out to more than To the more than two dozen organizations signed on to on to the petition to understand how we have harmed them Later on i'm actually going to read all of the organizations that have signed on to the petition And I just want to say I've been to black lives matter protests have been to other protests I've organized protests Protests have been an important part of our country since before we were a country the boston tea party Okay, it's an important part of our democracy Lieutenant padrini the famous quote of let's meet violence with violence He was talking about protesters and black lives matter protesters especially black lives matter protesters are nonviolent So he's talking about using violence against protesters who are nonviolent That's directly threatening me, but of course is threatening people of color much more And um, I just want to say that regardless of how you personally feel about this issue It's not going away until we do more to address this injustice To illustrate that point Well that illustrated it well, but Also to illustrate that point. I'm just going to read the list of the two dozen organizations that have signed on to our petition arc's cluster arlington cambridge summerville refugee support group bds boston a boycott divestment sanctions movement Black and pink boston chapter black lives matter cambridge boston center for independent living Centro present a cosech a massachusetts council on american islamic relations a k a care massachusetts branch digital fourth restore the fourth boston disability policy consortium massachusetts Dorchester people for peace Indivisible mystic valley jewish voice for peace boston massachusetts peace action Mayan tikva a wellspring of hope Independent congregation national lawyers guild massachusetts chapter parish committee first parish unitarian universalist of arlington massachusetts Racial justice coordinated committee first parish unitarian universally universalist of arlington massachusetts Raising luminaries progressive massachusetts progressive massachusetts arlington chapter Tenants for a livable arlington the alliance for water justice in palestine And i want to say not speaking for those organizations since this was not on the petition But i believe ultimately lieutenant padrini needs to be fired or needs to step down And this town will not be safe, and it will not have a good reputation until that happens Thank you. Thank you 325 uh john Sanbon mezzo simbon mezzo you say it right for me and with my apologies John sanbon mezzo took me many years to figure that out So i'm at 100 barnum street And i and i thank you for the hearing i want to point out this is the first time to my knowledge in a The year since this happened that there's been this form and of course there's a lot of anger and frustration And and so part of our frustration after three hours is this is the first time in a year Our voices are being heard on cable tv here. Okay, so that's the context I'm here because i'm extremely disappointed with the town's leadership. I'm sorry. You know, i'll seem like nice people But to tell you the truth. I feel let down It was a mistake not to fire this man immediately I could give you many examples of brook line and other communities in our area and elsewhere where Decisive quick action was taken by town leadership to terminate an employee I know you don't want to hear that close your ears but to terminate an employee who was engaged in hate speech So that was a mistake. I'm sorry. Mr. Towne manager In my opinion it was a terrible mistake. He was then shunted into a Restorative justice process which was really intended for marginalized communities and people who are powerless not for cops Okay I don't have time given my three minute limit to go into the problems the flaws with restorative justice program But many of us and not just people in the room, but i've spoken to dozens of other people And we've had meetings. There are hundreds of other people who are upset in this town People who feel that restorative justice process was Extremely inadequate if not a sham and that the whole process from the beginning was Exculpatory that's why I'm urging you not to sign to approve this letter because although on the one hand You're saying you can't get involved in personnel matters It seems to me that by voting to endorse this you're giving your good housekeeping seal of approval On on the contents of that letter which as my colleagues have pointed out contains omissions And is not an adequate response to the kind of trauma that's occurred in this community The people have referred to last police chief ryan's Email suggesting that he did not think after years of knowing officer petrini that his remorse would be sincere How do we know that a freedom of information act request? There's been no transparency or accountability whatsoever And i'm afraid that the same missteps that have plagued this from the beginning are being repeated here Tonight, um, I don't think I think that there needs to be a change in town leadership To be honest, and I don't think that um You know short of another public dialogue I mean maybe that's something you can all talk about in future If not to talk about this as a personnel matter as a crisis in our community that deserves public comment And more than we have here for three minutes I think that's all I wanted uh To say thank you. Thank you um next is Clarissa Rodriguez Good evening. I'm Clarissa Rodriguez 287 mass of arlington. I've lived here since 2014 Uh, I want to thank you for engaging the public on this issue for continuing to keep uh, lieutenant petrini on administrative assignment while working to determine the next steps And also for commissioning the cbi the outside consultant to engage with concerned citizens I ask that you not and uh not endorse this letter tonight As many of the other speakers have asked And that rather you consider these actions in order to reestablish trust with this community These also rep these actions also represent my direct and personal concerns That lieutenant petrini not be representing the town on any committees at this time That he refrained from any outward facing activities where there's community engagement. This would include town day coffee with a cop The upcoming event at robbins fawn park and any school events as well as The work of conducting interviews for and deciding who receives gun permits in this town, which Both of which are happening at this time and With regards to the town manager it certainly would be More welcome by many citizens of this town and myself included To thank petition organizers for bringing the concerns forward that we have Rather than calling us divisive It seems to me that all town leadership the select board included Could make sure that they have educated themselves on all the details of the case. This includes The various articles the freedom of information act email files on this issue And to be well versed in lieutenant petrini's contract and the disciplinary actions and lawsuits that have been brought against him The It would be very helpful for the select board members the town manager and the acting chief of police to sign up for annual Antibias and whiteness training such as the white privilege symposium happening next month in Cambridge As that has been recommended as has been recommended To adam and julie by various people And today we've not heard anything with regards to this recommendation Finally at the may diversity task group meeting the town manager and acting chief of police both labeled lieutenant petrini's comments as racist and Making this a public statement would go a long way towards healing in this community And I would like to cede any extra time. I have to the next speaker. Thank you for your time. Thank you Seven seconds. I'm sorry Laura burgin virgin burgin My saying it wrong Laura Okay Next is elizabeth drae Hi, good evening Madam chair Board of select town manager time legal counsel and i'm not sure what your title is board administrator. Thank you very much I Also, my name is elizabeth drae. I'm on 130 jason street. I've been a arlington resident for 18 years I'm also a health care advocate for immigrants and refugees And the executive director of the arlington tail synte sister city project I'm really not here to tell you What to do on personnel matters I'm here more to tell you what I would like you to do as our town leadership There's so many things I'd like to say but what I'd like to focus on is what the town has not done The town has spent so much energy and money and made so much noise To make sure that a racist police officer Who will eventually get returned to the force doesn't come back too mad And disturb the arlington police department That has been your focus Okay, I even heard it in Mr. Dunn's comments that he was disturbed about how this had affected the arlington police department I heard that in your comments chairwoman mohon And I also take exception to you painting us As a small group that is painted the town in it with an unfair brush and calling it ugly and sad I think what we are doing is bringing this to the light I well again, I apologize that wasn't to you It was to the people who put on arlington mass racism facebook Sites those people are right here. So it is to us. Okay, you are Painting and then I apologize because I don't think the town of allington and the entire police force that A town of allington mass should be identified as racist again. It's the arlington police department. What about the people Where is the conversation here about the harmed and vulnerable people? Silence you have been silent nothing Okay, all I hear about is the arlington police department and let's not make lieutenant padrini too pissed off So that when he comes back, he doesn't Poison the rest of the department What I am not hearing is any outreach to the community. That's actually been harmed No outreach to the immigrant population that we have here. No outreach to the lb gtq i plus population to those suffering mental health issues addiction Brown and black members of our community nothing you have been silent You have been publicly silent and that's inexcusable. You are our leaders The first thing that this town should have done every single one of you is reached out to this community and said I'm sorry that this has happened Tell me How has this affected you? How do you feel about this? What can I do to make you feel safe in your community? Where you live where you work But none of that has happened And I can't understand why You are our leaders you represent them And I contrast this with the incredibly amazing response that the town had to the arson events At the chabad center for jewish living amazing town hall event So many speakers up there you all couldn't fit on the stage There was singing and dancing and that community was upheld and embraced and told you are safe here We are going to make Everything we can to make sure that you're safe senator freedman said thank you. I could only get 70 seconds more You're at four minutes people fight harder. Okay. Well, let me get to this then Go we have a lot more speakers. So could you just wrap it up in this? I would say to this you cannot choose who you lift up You cannot choose who you embrace you cannot choose whose human rights you respect We are all citizens and your silence is deafening to this community They hear it and what they hear is that you don't care and that you value a police racist police officer More than you value that She said pass I know this person said pass, but I just want to give her one more opportunity beth will you still pass? I'm going to take that as a yes Mary No, everyone gets three minutes and I've been nice I'm not going to go back and forth. You've been going three and a half to four minutes So you all you all owe the process time, but I've given it back to you. Mary Fusoni Mary Fusoni 94 Grandview Road. I actually did not plan to speak. I was you know convinced. I ought to and I still said no, but Um I'm feeling it right now and uh, there are a couple of things that are particularly I like to to hold up one is Play on what elizabeth was just saying in terms of I feel like the thing that's really been lacking is Standing up and saying these were racist words now I felt I spend way too much time reading the arlington list And um, there's one guy on there who's been consistently saying point out the racist words. Where are the racist words? And finally some person that I don't know named Todd Berson like to give him a shout out Said these this is why these words were racist and I just felt like applauding this guy I thought like this is what we need to be hearing from the town leaders These words are racist and this is why it's true. He never said, you know specific, you know, race whatever, you know Some specific things that people will label as racist may not have been there But they were clearly racist and I would like the town to say that as with uh, you know the leadership with the united voice Secondly, I'm really very uh stuck on the composition Of the restorative justice process. I'm a member of first parish. I was very um in favor of that process which involved Finding members finding people who really had been harmed by these words and having them in Four meetings with the offender I learned from adam's letter and I was actually shocked to hear it I thought that this restorative justice process was the same But when I learned that in fact the first three circles were town officials Basically mostly I was like that's and it was only in the last meeting that included some of the harmed communities I was my as my husband said when hearing this he said well, it sounds like the first three circles were circling the wagons and um Yeah, that's what it seems like to me too. I don't think this restorative justice process was a really authentic process And finally, I just uh part of my passion around this comes from my Own family my daughter is a columbian adoptee who was raised in this town. I've lived here since 1987 um, but she recently married a Six foot five son of Haitian immigrants someone who could easily be mistaken By lieutenant padrini and those others who feel As he does whoever they may be um To be a threat And he's the gentlest person on earth, but I can easily see him like driving a little over the speed limit, you know through arlington center Maybe in some horrible situation where a police officer has been killed somewhere in the country and you know I just feel like this person Should never be on the on the unless he you know if he could somehow be made to really Feel it and apologize But I was in favor of the restorative justice process until I read the apology and I'm like this is this is nowhere as far as he It's clear to me that he's not, you know, really Understanding, you know, what the harm is that he's caused. That's it. Thank you um Next we have Kate Trangvada, I'm saying it wrong Just name an address for the record sorry Kate Tronquada 108 Tronquada 108 park av extension And here's a quote from ellie vizel what hurts the victim most is not the cruelty of the oppressor But the silence of the bystander something for us all to Consider I'll give you a hand because you unfortunately were last on the list till if you hope you're still here louise popkin louise isn't here Okay I I said I finished with the list. I'm now going to go to anyone in the audience That's not on the list that hasn't spoken. Please come to the microphone and give your name and address for the record My name is kevin heaton. I've been living in town for four years I'm also a member of boston center for independent living the disability organization that signed on to the petition that calls for uh between being kept on administrative duty and it was partly they signed on partly because of his language about people with mental illness and BCIL works with folks with mental and physical disabilities so i'm asking you to please not uh endorse the town manager's letter and just keep saying He should at least be kept on administrative duty. Thanks. Thank you. Mr. Keven. I appreciate you coming up Uh, is there anyone else here who wasn't on the list that would like to speak please come to the microphone Just name an address for the record My name is michael jacoby brown. I'm at ten braddle terrace and i'm a town meeting member from precinct 17 Uh, the controversy regarding officer padrini's writing is a challenge for all of us in arlington Who care about accuracy equity in the treatment of people? when a police officer Like officer padrini compares women and children Seeking asylum at the mexican border to japanese pilots Who bomb pearl harbor and suggest we shoot these women and children? He not only shows an astounding lack of history But a racist attitude toward people. He is sworn to protect not shoot For this man to carry a gun And have the legal authority to use it is a problem for me So I suggest as long as he's allowed on the force. He not be allowed on the street Certainly not doing any detail work If he is directing traffic on summer street or mill street Near where I live and a brown skin person drives by a friend of mine. This person's life could be in changer I also suggest that allington work with the group that better understand his words on the community The consensus building institute and I don't know what they were paid. I'd like to know I assume they were paid has a good track record in many areas I'm familiar with their founder larry suskind. In fact, we work together at our temple revising our meeting procedures We both dislike robert rules of order I won't say what my rabbi called robert rules of order Uh the cbi however does not work With building multicultural and multiracial institutions. It's not an area of its expertise I suggest as an alternative you contact either larry ellison uh an african-american police officer president of mam leo the mass association Of minority police officers or work with uh visions ink I know the town I believe the town in the past which is a specific organization that works building multiracial and multicultural organizations Uh, it also does not guilt rip white people a full disclosure. I work part-time as a consultant to them But if the town hired them I wouldn't receive any compensation um Basically, I called officer pradrini just to speak to him personally. He hasn't called me back I believe in trying to contact people and find out as much as I can But those are my suggestions and I appreciate you're taking so time this time and I know the hour is late. Thank you. Thank you Anyone else who would like to speak that hasn't name an address for the record? Hello, williams 160 mount Vernon street Um, I'll keep it short and just say that it's been made clear tonight over and over again Why the town manager's letter is incorrect faulty and falls far short of a proper response I call on each of you To not endorse the letter and at the very least Table the vote and focus on responding and acting in the various ways that have been suggested and documented Over and over again tonight Thank you Anyone else I live on alpine terrace And I didn't prepare anything but in listening to all these people speak and To hear some reactions to what people are saying. I just wanted to throw a few things out there One is that I think we all understand The limits the personnel limits of this board But these things keep coming up and I think perhaps they're directed directed at the town manager Okay, that's they know you can't make these decisions But he can at least hear what they have to say And I was glad that uh, joe brought up, um The um in south africa. What was the the board the um the program reconciliation? Yes, the truth and reconciliation Truth and reconciliation. There was an excellent movie about that that I just watched and something very important there was that People got to speak Okay, so to say, um This letter and endorsing this letter, um, we should be able to put this to bed You know if south africa can deal with their things then this letter should put things to bed People need to be heard and even if some things people are saying are inappropriate. It's For this forum. It's clear that people have not been heard and really want to be heard and um, I Would ask you not to endorse this letter and I thank you for your time and your service to the town Thank you I'm anyone else who hasn't spoken My name is rajee sunija 1113 mary street First of all, thank you for the opportunity to let me speak today Uh, I just wanted to say I've been a resident of arlington for almost 14 years now I'm an immigrant. Uh, I grew up outside the country and I decided to make arlington my home with my family um what I read from the letters or the articles mentioned by dutton pedrini was chilling to me because it is Evocative of what's happening uh Nationally so to see that happen in our own town was absolutely shocking. I've involved myself in every activity In the community volunteering trying to make myself Integrated into this community and I see the response From the leadership in the town leaves me dumbfounded So what I would appeal to to you is to look at this case again His writings mirror exactly what Has been happening nationally. It's not coded language. It's a direct Call to the worst in humanity um, I echo everything What I did not prepare to speak today, but I'm compelled to because I hear all the Other people speak but I just would like to say that the the truth and reconciliation committee and I want to Um, reiterate what the person before me said they spent years Listening to all the victims. We cannot get over this Uh, or absolve this in a matter of uh hearing for two hours. We should be able to do better. Thank you Hey with that, um, Mr. Hurd so I will Try to be brief. I think a lot of the comments have been said um, madam chair if I Come to a point where I'm going beyond what we are charged with talking about just let me know one Thing that came up a few times. I just want people to be clear on it We put this on the agenda, but we have citizens open forum Just about every meeting so Every meeting we have You can come and speak about whatever issue Involving the town you want to just like you've done here To be honest, it's been just about every meeting since this happened I've anticipated that some sort of that this would That we would hear from folks on both side of this issue and we welcome all the input um I want to address one comment that I think might have just been a Miss speak where someone had talked about the town manager calling the Certain people that are again that are speaking here today device of I don't think I I think that was I'm not sure that he has ever said that And I think that was Yeah, but I think someone had mentioned said it about the town manager I think it was someone just misspoke, but I just wanted to make sure we clearly pulled that out Okay, this is where the board discusses now, but we don't yell out from the audience. It's just civility Mr. Hurd, I'm sorry. I apologize. We've talked about that. This has been talked about as well Again, don't want to dwell on things that we keep telling you But just about everything that we have heard as far as as suggestions as to how we this board Should move forward or not within our charge as a board There's a separation of powers the town manager is charged with handling personnel issues hiring firing disciplinary issues It's not within our purview to tell the town manager how he should handle this Specific matter. It's not in our purview to tell the town manager how he should handle other specific matters That he handles on a day-to-day basis That being said we are here to to discuss and in Doris if the board so chooses the letter that he had he had put forth a few weeks ago I did not read that letter to say That he thought that the process was over. I've heard that a few times here. I think this process is ongoing Um, as far as the report that's forthcoming I believe the letter says that we will wait to see with what the report says and will continue to evaluate the matter based on their recommendations of the of the CBI That once that comes out. So to the extent that our vote here should be stalled until that report comes out That's not what we're here to do. We're here to talk about the specific letter that came up The manager was put in a very difficult position and this is where I'm going to Just be brief and not I'm sorry if you can't contain yourself I'm gonna have to ask you to step outside. You really need to respect the process and you're not doing that Please I beg you. Please they chose. Sorry, mr. In responding to this issue the manager heard The community heard the concerns and Collaboratively with other members of this community not this board but other members of this community chose the restorative justice process Now looking back. I think Many people Look at the process and there's always comments that could be made and there's always things that we are learning This is not even This is a our first time through the restorative justice process in such a public nature We are learning About the process and we can learn from this experience in order to use it If this if a situation like this is ever presented again And we can we'll take the comments that that come and I know the town manager has Takes all the comments that he receives to heart and that can be used in the future to improve the process I was just saying I mean those are my opinions But again Well, we are limited in the things that we can do on this particular issue Because of the separation of powers We are here just to endorse that the town manager has used his good faith to To address the concerns. I think that the community has put forth here Thank you, madam chair And thank you for coming tonight to to express your your views to to the public This has been a very painful painful issue for the community and You've heard from people one thing I want to before I get to both motions that are before the board is just Repeat that the the last line of the town manager's letter Where he discusses that that finding a path to healing and we we truly need to find a path to healing in the community and I think The for reasons I'm going to discuss later. I I personally Cannot vote to endorse the letter this evening because Because I feel like we're at a stage where things are incomplete It's not that I think the manager was well within his rights to put it out there And I think at that time he did it it was appropriate for him to lay out what his thinking was however for us for me personally To vote to endorse the letter where where we're not there yet Um, I I think we'd be getting ahead of the process and and you know A couple quotes from the letter the major thing that still needs to be done by both the town and luchin and padrini's further Engagement with the community in order to both continue to repair the harm And rebuild trust in the Ellington police department. Um, there's then further reference to the cbi report Which I think is expected to be made available this month, which will guide Next steps Well, you don't know what the next steps are until you get the Until you get the report and then later in the letter the manager says additional steps are needed And will surely be coming to ensure that our town and all of its employees live up to the values and aspirations of respect safety Inclusion inclusion and justice for all island residents And this is the manager's words, but I think it's it's important I understand that we have more work to do And I am committed to doing it and I accept that from the manager. Um, I just don't think at this stage it's It's we haven't gotten involved in this process because of the separation Um And I think at this stage to come in and endorse The letter would be endorsing everything in the letter and I just don't I just don't think that's that's something that we Should be doing as a board now one of the things that's um Mr. Kuro brought a resolution or a proposed vote Before the board tonight unfortunately And it's a good thing for open and transparent government He gave it to us tonight. This is the first time all of us are seeing this so I got this At the same time you haven't even the public hasn't even gotten it yet. Um, I think for In the sentiments expressed in the proposed motion and and and what mr. Kuro said I agree with wholeheartedly. Um, I think if we are going to make a vote tonight I could support mr. Kuro's proposed vote With with one change rather than Saying that we affirm the town manager's authority. We're not really affirming it. We acknowledge his authority So I did propose changing firm to acknowledge but um, I just feel you know, just so much pain out there for for really destructive The racist dialogue. Let's face. Let's call what it is. Um, I think we um There's a lot more to do to the community will look to the manager to to do more and As far as my colleagues are concerned, that's what I could support this evening I just want to um state the purpose of um putting this forth is because this has been sort of percolating and um Mr. Herd commented we do have citizens open forum and I wasn't hearing anything In the public arena. So uh when mr. Dunn called they'd asked for an agenda item I always set and work with the town manager to um Put on public agenda items It wasn't to be confrontational or it's we uh personally myself I'm really saddened by some things that have been done by some people not saying in this room And I just see it getting worse and worse. So this was sort of our proactive step when we were shocked No one was coming for citizens open forum. Um, so So I do want to uh point that out to everybody and commend um my colleague mr. Dunn and and adam chapter lane to um, Mr. DeCorsi's remarks, um Um And I'd be interested in what the rest of the board has to say I know people are out that might be saying oh you pull on them. We can't talk about a town employee issue But we can with the town manager and we charge him to Take on the day-to-day responsibilities of anything that comes across his desk Whether it's something inspired from the community a business an employee positive action negative action And when we review review him and evaluate him in renew his contract um To me that's a very powerful statement and endorsement in terms of Our trust in him in doing his job um, I really think he's Been exemplary as he has on many other issues in this issue in particular and keeping us surprised When we've been saying we haven't heard anything. I know he's met with several groups um, I know that um As of last friday and I'm He's been been told and I've been told there's a petition with thousands of signatures on it And we haven't received it and that's okay Um, I know that from what the manager gave me After meeting with um, I know of at least two meetings that there may have been more Um, would people have these concerns that he took to his time to sit down and listen to people? And I know when I spoke to him after both meetings, it was like, you know what? It was a really good conversation Both sides heard each other. Um, there's five requests basically that they're making Um, I'm committing to the four of the five Um, and that's what he outlined and he also kept this board apprised of you know as this was going on Because we were waiting to see when it would appear before us um, and What I'm understanding what our Action would be here tonight Is to basically approve or disapprove of our tail manager The way he's um dealt with this issue the steps that he's proposing to take I say, you know Either we endorse approve or whatever in whatever format you want to do it the manager has laid out a plan from these different Personal meetings as well as emails and phone conversations And he's put that out as a path that he wants to go down I would say if there's anything we disagree with that needs to be added But to me I I don't want it to be construed that we're saying anything negative in the way that the Manager is performing his job. I think he's done exactly what We give him nine out of ten ten out of ten And I don't know why anyone with all due respect You know would have a problem Evaluating the manager and how he handled the situation whether we think he handled it Appropriately or not and and I understand your point about this. I I just would say Had my feathers ruffled a little And this is done on other things You know anything that's on the agenda Even like when we get here a quarter of seven or you can call anyone can call marie someone did it tonight On a citizen open forum it can just be before us that says you know item 14 because then would have had a little more time to read it I apologize especially the enormity of it tempting to Conform very strictly to the open meeting Well, I let everybody on both sides of the mic and our table kind of stray Away from that because I felt like people needed to say what they wanted to mr. Dacourcy thank you manager And I just want to clarify By same idea. I don't disapprove of what the manager has done. I just think for us to vote It's it's it's not The endorsement or what being has to do is to brought it at this time, but it is not I think the manager has acted in good faith throughout this whole thing I think he has Acted in the best way he sees to to to move this forward So it's not don't take this as me saying I disapprove of what he did because I certainly don't But it's just in terms of what what our vote would be and where we are right now in the process I I feel it's It just feels like that's not the path for for us to take as a board I just hope we take a vote. Yeah, no, I do to to move forward Absolutely because by not doing that I don't see the situation getting better. I don't see de-escalation um I think we've done Our outreach Even though we're really dancing the line of what the agenda item was and what was discussed That's why I gave a lot of leeway, but um I just don't want everybody at odds. I wanted to bring everybody in the same room have the say Manager has indicated the steps he's taking will continue to take with the chief and other department heads in the future We endorse that. That's why we hired you We agree with the path that you've chosen and will continue to take and um And and let it go that venue, you know, I really pushed the limits and had conversation with town council about You know What we could or couldn't do tonight and I honestly chose to err on the side of maybe being a little too You know, I was advised of you know, any employee the rights they have You know to be treated fairly not not not to attempt to be showing that you're having some sort of hearing And accepting testimony when that person hasn't been properly and legally notified and hasn't Either chosen to come him or herself or send another representative. I really Opened it wide which you know, I feel bad, but I felt like we needed to have this but to continue to do this And put it in limbo It's not going to be a good thing for the town and I'm not saying that sarcastically I've been through many many actions and It's definitely taken seven to ten years to get through and I'm not going to bring up those and once when I was a board member Didn't involve any union employee and it really and for the good of the town I worked to facilitate to heal Even though I was on the right side and all the other ones weren't I didn't raise it then because nobody wins So I hope we do something tonight and vote because we need to do this to allow the manager To continue on with the rest of the process and we can get back to select board business Um, Mr. Kiro, I just want to offer a point of clarification my attempt to the substitute motion and again, I apologize. I realize it's voluminous, but At its core what I tried to do is to extract At its at its core What I tried to do is extract the key points that were touched on in the manager's letter and recast it in our words In a perspective fashion going forward to make clear that we support Efforts moving forward, you know, it's to be quite honest. It's a little bit It's a little bit On orthodox, I think the order in which we're taking this up because a lot of times when we ask the manager to do a Communication we'll discuss it as a as a board here. We'll deliberate and then we'll we'll Accept and we push forward and then this is this is a case where Where our communication has gone out and I think we all did see drafts and and individually offered Um feedback, but we didn't have that as a as a deliberative piece. It seems a little bit backwards to me when there's a communication that Completely within bounds to outline the manager's thinking to outline the steps that he that he is taking to outline The path forward as he sees it It's completely within bounds to send that out It just feels backwards to me that we're discussing approving a letter that's been out for a couple of weeks Instead of taking those key points putting them in our words And endorsing Further engagement activities going forward. That's that's the core of what of what i'm looking to achieve with with It is essentially a resolution. Yeah, so what i'll do is Following that robert's rule of orders in our open meeting laws Um, I'll first take a motion by mr. Curo Seconded oh did anyone else That's what I yeah, I said a motion, but I just want to finish the vote and then i'll call on mr Dunn, I thought we had come I thought there's still people I thought john I just wanted to wait. We have two motions. Does anybody want to add another one? Yeah, I'm hoping for more discussion Okay That would be my preference I think john was raising I'll be brief I just want did want to add because we do have two motions and I spoke to one that I'm happy to support Joe's motion in The broadest terms it It does Provide a response from this board And as it starts we reject the writings of lute tenon padrini. I know for I don't know anyone On either side of the issue depend regardless of what you think the actual punishment Could you take the conversations outside? Could be that would say That wouldn't agree with that statement In all the continuing statements through this motion, so I'm happy to support What is written in here? As far as the main motion To me what we're doing here is This was our way as we said We have citizens open foreign and we never had any discussion at our meetings about it This was an avenue To invite people in and how to do that Was we have to put something on the agenda it was To take the town manager's letter and discuss it in approving It's not I'm sorry. Could you please sit down? This is where the board deliberates Okay, could you please? Thank you. Thank you. If could you please sit down or if you want to go out and have a conversation. That's fine. Sorry, mr So to me we're voting on The process thus far If we need to take another vote I don't know we'll have to discuss that at a further meeting once with the report comes out But this was again our avenue to invite the public in Was to put this agenda on item on and to say That we think that the town manager has appropriately handled this situation. There's going to be many many Many opinions as to whether it was correct on both sides of the issue And we'll use those opinions going forward in this process in the next time we use this process but Like I said, this this was the avenue to get this before us and You know, I don't see the harm in us voting tonight to say that You know in response to the many questions that we've gotten To us and to the town manager town manager spent the time To put together the process thus far and for us to say That we approve his actions in responding to the community with that level So I I agree with everything in joe's motion, but I don't think joe's motion goes far enough And the thing in particular that I have been Frustrated with the public debate about this is that I think that some of the Some some people have used it as a tool to undermine The authority of the town manager when I think that who is I think has done To the best visibility the job that he's doing and Part of what made me called in and said, please put this on the agenda was that I wanted This board to have an opportunity To endorse what the town manager is doing And so while I can support joe's motion It doesn't go far enough in that regard and that's why I want to stick with my endorsement of the town manager's letter Does the town manager's letter have Mistakes in it. I'm sure it does. Is it perfect? Absolutely not But what it is is a representative. It's a mile. It was a It was a definitely I'll call it a milestone Not a closure But a milestone in this process and we should and I think and I want the board to acknowledge it as such So we have two things we can do things. So I just had two friendly amendments a firm was a friendly friendly amendment was acknowledge But I don't know if there was an amendment You're arguing for what both I'm saying we approve. I'm saying approve both but uh, yeah That was my procedural question We're not this isn't a substitute motion where we can only vote for one or the other. Correct, right? We can have a one vote two-part motion We can um Compile the essence or core of Mr. Dunn's motion Into mr. Keros or vice versa Or we can have two separate votes And one vote may be five oh the next one may be through one four or you know what I mean If somebody says no, I just don't want I want to help I I would look to the two people with the motions So I There may be Go Sorry I I think I'm feeling a lot like mr. Decorsi and for some of the reasons that I stated I mean I just I I feel uncomfortable And I support the town manager's efforts in this and I think he's done an incredible amount of Meeting and outreach with with with folks on this And if we do make this two motions I'm not going to vote against Endorsing the letter, but I think I'm this is one We're okay, so I'm going to abstain. I don't want it to be misconstrued that I'm that I reject the the letter But um, and I guess what I would say to that is We're not approving it. We're endorsing it. We're endorsing the actions that he's endorsing Put forth of the pathways of how he wants to move forward and what to continue on in the future That's how I say mr. Dunn Oh, what I've um help us do this. What if we add a it is further voted to mr Hero's motion that's along the Lines of it is further vote and then we can put it in wherever it is further voted that the select board fully supports the town manager Actions and efforts in Good faith stewardship of the complicated Issues of race and equality in Arlington Please please please respect the process if I allow it at one meeting it's going to happen at every meeting, please Okay, I'm going to take it as you're comfortable with that Okay, um, so with a firm to acknowledge Let me just give you one second. Um, I don't think you had any of the changers and then I'm going to Did you want to change the Or I'm stalling for time I can stall a little bit that Withdrawing the and and I also want to commend mr. Dunn for getting this on our agenda this evening because that's that's that that's where it started And I think this is this is an attempt. I think the um You know the goal is moving forward what the manager wants to do going forward. I agree with we don't know what those steps are yet He doesn't know what those steps are yet because he hasn't seen the report and he hasn't you know The the additional work hasn't been fully developed in terms of what it's going to look like so going forward I Could endorse what those recommendations are just the whole product and the timing of What we're being asked to do so with that if there's something that mr. Dunn has that we could all Get to get to an affirmative vote and just to say to that Yes, I agreed to do this tonight recognizing that I did receive counsel of how it could go astray Um, I don't see this as something that's coming up bi-weekly and Some of your remarks can be construed that way. Um, we we have to if we don't agree with what the manager's doing Um, like I don't want to keep evaluating him on the steps that he's taking every two weeks That's your job No, I understand that but I also think to mr. Curbs and this this letter came out In early august and here we are a lot later talking about and that's that's the part that feels A little strange in terms of what we're being asked to do so mr. Dunn you want to reread? So putting it last just because but i'm open to other places It is further voted that the arlington select board fully supports the town manager Actions and efforts and good faith efforts to steer the town through the difficult issues of race and equality Did you mean that to be to actions and yeah actions and good faith efforts or maybe efforts is On the effort should be strict. Thank you It is further voted that the arlington select board Fully supports the town managers actions and good faith Efforts to steer the town through these difficult issues of race and equality Be taken as a substitute motion or an amendment to an amendment to joe's and i'd withdraw mine There's a motion By mr. Dunn With the amended language. Uh, is there a second? second Seconded by mr. Hurd Okay, we now have three motions before us I'll we'll think we have one. I think it's okay. I will draw mine We now have two before us which is joe's original motion and then we have Joes the second one is joe's original motion with the affirm to acknowledge and the last Sentences that mr. Dunn I accept those for a minute Okay, so I will take that up first and if that goes through by a majority the other one automatically will fail On a motion by mr. Dunn seconded by mr. Hurd with The i'm calling it amendments affirm acknowledge as well as the Sentences read by mr. Dunn to appear After it is further voted Can we just I think we should give that the motion the original motion was by mr. Currow and I think he You want to go back to that? Okay, then all right We're going by well then if we'll do that it was a motion by mr. Currow seconded by mr. Decorsi I won't repeat everything again I was just trying to do it to make sure everyone who has to write it down got it Any further questions or comments if not all those in favor say aye all those opposed Any abstentions? 500 thank you I lost my agenda wait a minute Next we have correspondence received Is there a motion to receive by Mr. Hurd seconded by Second mr. Currow Any discussion questions if not all those in favor say aye. Hi all those opposed unanimous vote Was mr. Seltzer here? No, um, we're new New business mrs. Krapalka. Yes a town day Attorney hind no new business. Thank you, mr. Chapter Lane I'll only remind the board that at the next meeting the board I won't be sitting here sandy pooler will be because I will be Representing the town to our sister city in japan of nagokakuyo Wish me luck Yeah, it's exciting I'll shake it up. Mr. Decorsi are going to come back, right? I don't know I'll see how well and after Very very briefly. I want to give a shout out to The class of 1959 from allington high school who just had their 60th reunion this past weekend and the thing that struck me Michael bill is a member of that class He showed me the program and in the middle of the program There was a narrative about the new high school and encouraging all the alumni to take a look at what's going to be built and it just shows you You know what a great community we have that 60 years later People are still interested in what they're what their old high school looks like so to the class of 1959. Congratulations Sorry I got a big scare today when I got one of my um Daughters from another mother my rebecca's best friend showed her first her daughter's first day of kindergarten She had class of 2032 And I went, huh? I'm like, oh my lord. I'm sorry. Mr. Carroll I've spoken way too much to me I just had one thing that I wanted to bring up. I saw a few things about met the marijuana licenses for the community for the two companies we gave the community post agreements too. They've had a few community outreach meetings, but I've had many people talk to me and ask me what the time frame is and I don't know Would it be reasonable for us to at some meeting in the future ask one representative from them to come in and Tell us where they are in the prospective process and give us a timeline Well, I was speaking to the manager about this on friday that the the two processes are at different points and At some point when he deems appropriate whether it's an agenda item or boarded and co or email Um At a place where he thinks he has enough information on one perhaps not both So what I uh started having the conversation, mr. Chapter lane will continue to do that to see if it should be an agenda item If it should be board info or something like that, uh, as well as um, I'm just being cognizant of If if you want to have a person in from each that's fine I just want to make sure that attorney heim says That's something that we can do. I don't want them to say hey We already appeared before you we're now with arb and they might take it the wrong way. So I don't that's fine I would just it can be an update from the manager But it just some point would like to know where they are in the process because one might be three months away one might be eight months away and We can do that. It's not an exact time frame. Mr. Chapter lane can I get credit for that that that's the exact conversation I had with your person gets full credit No, I that's exactly what I said That's exactly what I and I said, I don't want to waste my colleagues time It doesn't have to be but if it's an agenda item, that's fine, too But um, so I've been thinking what looking out for you all with the manager. Um, with that our next meeting is September 23rd 2019 I'll take a motion to adjourn by mr. Curell seconded by second