 So it's just because it was named after a giant barrel where you stored crackers in I'm sure kind of to me is like often almost like a trash can and the crackers in there And they're all like crumbly. It just doesn't sound like a good diner experience So it is it is most prominently known because all of their locations are like right on the highway Yeah, so it like it is started travelers as a country store adjunct to promote gasoline sales at Shell Oil stations by Dan Evans in 1969. Oh, wow First restaurant was close to Interstate 40 in Lebanon, Tennessee They just Lebanon's in the States There there is a crack a cracker braille somewhere in the the Southern California region What's the name of that other we have one in Champaign when I was in college There was a Cracker barrel means plain simple and unsophisticated It emerged from the country stores of the early 1900s Part of the fact that there were barrels of crackers in those stores and Those country stores were considered simple plain and unsophisticated A family friend of mine when I was a child gave me advice that I remember to this day Don't get don't purchase things directly out of barrels people do strange things Something that echoes in your mind Pickles that like, you know, you ever know that there's some some like delis and stuff like we'll have like a pickle barrel And you can like grab a little out of it. So according to southern living In these country stores that would have their barrels full of soda crackers for sale people would Visit the store and stand around the barrel chatting and catching up on the day's news so cracker barrel is meant to be a Evocative of a place where you can go and just sit around and talk to good folk the cracker barrel was the first internet So it was kind of the water cooler of the south, right? Right, but once you eat all those crackers you got to move to the water cooler because Thirsty yeah, I mean all those crackers Yeah, I started I just I mentioned two minutes Standard attention tech news people Stay out of those barrels of preparation whether they have Daily tech news show now that I know the origin to be sort of the cracker barrel of techniques. That's a new branding You'll find us All right, here we go three two The Daily Tech News show is powered by me, but I couldn't do it on my own I'd like to thank the over 4,800 other patrons who help keep this show going each day visit daily tech news show Com slash support if you too would like to help power this show This is the Daily Tech News for Monday June 11th 2018 in Los Angeles on Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and standing right next to Tom. I'm Justin Robert young also in Los Angeles. Wait, how'd you get over there? That's weird. I flew Boy, I'm tired. Oh You both did it at the same time Thank you for joining in on the stupidest joke in the world Don't mention it. I won't again Let's start with a few tech things you should know Snap announced clear chats which lets users delete any message sent to another individual or a group on snapchat This includes text chats stickers audio and voice notes and any photo or video snaps sent from memories Snap is also launching the second gen spectacles on Amazon in the United States United Kingdom and Canada for 150 US dollars Instagram has invited reporters To a June 20th special event which is in line with tech crunches previous report that Instagram is launching long-form video support Sources tell tech crunched that Instagram will let creators upload 4k full screen Vertically oriented videos which will be available from a centralized hub with curated popular videos Social media stars and publishers are both rumored partners for the June 20th reveal Are you receiving the packets of this podcast? Because the open internet guidelines of 2015 are no longer enforced in the United States as of Monday If you do have complaints about anti competitive behavior by your ISP you now make them to the US Federal Trade Commission Not the FCC the FTC Generally limited investigations to antitrust matters though keep that in mind many US states have been enacting their own methods of ensuring Net neutrality and a group of 22 states have sued the FCC over the repeal a federal appeals court in Washington Does not set a date for oral arguments There's also a movement in the US House right now to overturn the FCC's decision, but as of right now There are no guarantees of net neutrality in the United Let's talk a little bit more about Apple Apple has added a new language to its app store review guidelines that state the third-party advert or advertisements in apps quote May not run Unrelated background processes such as crypto currency mining and quote another section states that apps May not mine directly for crypto currencies unless the mining is performed in the cloud or otherwise off device Apple also said the transactions of cryptocurrency must be carried out by an approved exchange and ICOs must be handled by approved financial institutions And apps may not use cryptocurrency as a reward for downloading other apps or promoting apps on social networks Yeah, so the previous guidelines pretty much just said you can use cryptocurrency in your app as long as you don't break any laws But Apple's getting more specific about this because the laws aren't really keeping up with the practices and they don't want the Crypto mining Advertisement that says hey will give you this free thing if you let us use your spare cycles to mine coin Even though there's nothing illegal with that Apple's like now We just we just don't want to get into that because sometimes people don't realize what that means it can do Probably make the experience of using the phone worse etc. It's my yeah It sounds to me like it's not so much Apple saying we know it's best for you If you want the this company or this app to mine cryptocurrency in the background We don't want you to do it It's more that for the general public of their app store customers too many people are confused by what this means Certainly so and also we are now seeing more Cryptocurrencies that can be effectively mined from phone data processing Yeah, sure, you know that is that is something that is coming more to prominence and Apple has taken this kind of stance with Intrusive ads before when they allowed ad blockers and stuff on these are kind of baseline things that they want to safeguard general app performance for the Randos who have the phones Yeah, I mean the Apple the Apple way of doing things has always been will tell you what's okay Not the Google way and the general internet way until recently which was let everything in and then if it Causes a problem, then we'll try crack down the market will decide. Yeah Apple will decide in Apple's universe And that's why they're like look cryptocurrencies can be used. They just have to be approved We have to say like oh, yeah Bitcoin. That's fine Monero. Yeah, maybe not So I actually don't know if Moneros on the prohibited list or not but they will decide what's okay and Ico's is another big one I know where there are a lot of scams that run as if they are Ico's so again Apple says we're not going to try to figure out which ones are scams and which ones aren't We'll just whitelist it and if it's an actual financial institution, then we'll let it happen. Yeah At e3 Microsoft announced five new gaming studios will join Microsoft studios to help boost the number of first-party games available That's been one of the dings on the Xbox Microsoft is acquiring undead labs playground games ninja theory and compulsion games Forza horizon is is one of the games made in that group and Microsoft's launching a brand new studio in Santa Monica that'll be led by Daryl Gallagher former head of crystal dynamics That one's called the initiative Microsoft also announced a new halo game coming called halo infinite Gears five will be out next year. They didn't give a halo date by the way Gears pop will be a mobile game of Gears of War with Funko pops Sounds legit. Yeah. So anyway, yeah Generally Microsoft didn't offend anyone in its e3 announcement is is the is sort of the temperature that I keep taking people excited about a few things Couple of the announcements laid flat, but mostly people are like, yeah, they did fine. Well, I think that look they Effectively conceded this console generation. They they said ps You know Sony one and so now we're looking forward and so that's why all these announcements We're about the things that are going to come look at all the big exciting seeds We are planting so we can then harvest in the normal game cycle of one to two years How many halos are we up to at this point? Oh, gosh? I haven't I mean halo infinite is like it feels like Infinite we're at plus and five Roger. Is that right? Well, it cannot counting like Split there's some title talking about any of the spinoffs or the RTS. I think there's five actual Heligins and the Guardians the last most recent one But it is the spin-offs and RTS and stuff that kind of give it the impression of being infinite and now yes I How do we we'll talk a lot with Patrick Beja tomorrow about generally how e3 is going but Microsoft was sort of first into the pool of what is considered to be A very game-centric here. I wouldn't say it's a down year But a very a year with this is you're gonna care if you're into video games about the video games But there are no wider announcements. No new hardware Certainly Microsoft has learned its lesson about trying to be an entertainment center. Yeah entertainment and electronic ex electronics and entertainment Expo It's it's strongly about games and that's what we expect from Sony later today And that's what we expect from Nintendo and Nintendo Direct etc etc Yeah, I've never covered e3 as extensively as a lot of our peers have but I've certainly been there in the past and I know that the last Few years maybe not last year, but let's say the last five years you had e3 Journalist veterans complaining like it's not so much about games anymore It's kind of all this media center stuff and it's feels like it's losing some centralized theme So maybe the pendulum is swinging back a little bit more in Microsoft saying there is some really cool indie companies We want them under our umbrella, you know, not gonna ruin anything if anything they're gonna get more exposure and Probably is good news to a lot of gaming really they just need to have one or two really Out of the ballpark titles to get people excited. I mean, this is this is an entertainment industry to get people to go into your Wall of the Garden you're gonna have to give them dangle out some really awesome candy and Sony has managed to do that with the PlayStation 4 and with, you know, their first party titles from like naughty dog whether it's uncharted or The the last of us, you know things they're dangling things that people want to play and Microsoft really hasn't done that it's kind of odd because Microsoft in the way was the antithesis of Nintendo Where Nintendo was all first party first party first party Microsoft was like first party. All right. There's a bunch of third parties We'll let them kind of we'll kind of coast on their coattails for a while. See how far we get or didn't get Yeah, and and Microsoft Xbox in general has kind of always been from the moment that Sachin and Ella ascended in Microsoft was always kind of the weird Unloved child, you know, there were the rumors initially that that Xbox might have been sold out or spun off From from Microsoft proper. So, you know, who knows who knows where we go from here, but it seems like they are Delving back into kind of the core product The one other thing that I will say is that look video games are pop culture now And I think that that's what they've learned is that if you look at the world of entertainment set-top boxes That's a commoditized field at this point You can get it on your television You're never gonna get any cheaper that it comes with the TV that you buy so now steering back into games I think is really the right moment. Yeah, and and the Xbox division I think those fears about Sachin and Ella were overblown I think he just he's like I'm gonna leave that to Phil because he's really good at that And he has been and the Xbox is one of the main drivers of revenue for Microsoft now Facebook launched a dedicated page called Memories an expanded collection current features such as on this day are included and other memories previously pushed to your friend's Timelines or maybe even your own not judging you people that always push your memories Memories will be available through the memories bookmark either to the left of the news feed on the desktop or in the more tab in the bottom Right of the mobile app through notifications and messages in the news feed and through facebook.com slash Memories now I sort of joked a second ago about people pushing their memories on me But it's one of the things I like the least about Facebook and it's not because I don't think it's a nice tool I just find that other people's memories that don't involve me are Not very usually very relevant to me now It doesn't mean that Facebook saying we know everybody hates this and now it's just gonna be all funneled towards a separate section It's just Facebook saying here's a better way for you to seal these memories and to maybe think it's a little bit more fun I suspect that they have a lot of negative feedback from people because it is very spare me It's not narcissistic. It's you had to be there and I wasn't so it doesn't mean much I mean even sort of like Friend-aversary stuff where someone's like hey, Sarah and I became friends on Facebook eight years ago That involves me and I'm usually like eight years But it's there are certain updates that I think really appeal to certain folks and not others And so Facebook is probably Reading the tea leaves a little bit and figuring out where to funnel this stuff and what I think this move is is that you're right? It doesn't really interest you if you publish to the rest of your friend graph that something happened at some point It does matter when you can look back and deep dive and explore your history that Facebook has recorded And so if this is more about oh on this day, I did that okay I can privately process even one of the biggest criticisms with their memories is that Facebook's you know Facebook doesn't discriminate between the time that you had a painful breakup and the time that you had the best day of your life Right. They're just going by likes and interaction That's why I uninstalled time hop because there were just too many times where I was like yeah, that was yeah I hate that guy and the memories feature includes controls to adjust what content you want to see because they do realize Yeah, you don't want to be reminded like hey remember five years ago when you know Someone you really cared about died or your your relationship ended like yeah, they're gonna give you some control over that because yeah I'll be curious to see exactly how effective that is me to unless unless you're tagging posts never show me again Please throw it down the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind memory home This is where those of you worried about the algorithm should realize if the algorithm can't keep those away from you It's still not there yet. Yeah, if it was an inspirational quotes You don't need to remind me that you posted it Absolutely the US Department of Energy's Oak Ridge National Laboratory unveiled the new summit super computer Friday rated to perform at 200,000 trillion Calculations per second or 200 petaflops that puts it in front of China's 93 petaflop Taihu light which has been had been the world's fastest since 2016 Summit will was built with I IBM power 9 CPUs and Nvidia Tesla v100 GPUs It'll be used for research and field including energy health advanced materials and artificial intelligence Yeah, and and anybody who follows super computers, you know exascale is is the big is the big word You want to get a super computer that can work at exascale? Beyond just petaflops and there are they yeah, this is in the super computer world sort of the puffery language They're like it can achieve exascale type speeds in certain instances Yeah, but it you know, there's a couple of interesting things going on here One is us taking back the top and there's been a race for years now between China and the US about who's gonna have the Fastest super computers and honestly, it's a good race because they keep pushing each other and we keep getting these more powerful computers And we forget When it's common for people to say like yeah, I have a super computer in my pocket It's like well, you have what was a super computer in the 80s in your pocket a super computer now is Better than that yeah and can do things that no other computer on earth can do in a short time So diagnosis of new diseases is something that a 200 petaflop Super computer might be able to do and and cure Something or at least provide the information to lead to a cure that was impossible before this AI That that that can actually make advances in AI not by tricks or programming efficiencies But because of the sheer immense of horsepower that gives it the ability to do more calculations per second So this is huge for lots of of really deep research And now with artificial intelligence. I feel like we have a You know, we were talking earlier today about this being kind of a space race type Yeah, a lot of people describe it as that with exascale being the moon landing with being the moon landing And I think that now a part of what brings in the rest of the world is going to be the idea of like oh wait No machine learning I have a general idea that machine learning the faster It can learn things and the more we can feed it the better It's going to be the better AI is going to be and that's something where I feel like now We're not just talking about This general idea this capacity that we're building for who knows what there are specific Understandable by the baseline consumer of this kind of news understanding of what this would be used for and and and We will see this one get passed It may be a couple of years yet And we may not be of the US it may not be Lawrence Livermore. It may not be Oak Ridge It may be another tyhoo or something like it But I would like to see even more countries get involved in this this this to me is a positive Way for countries to compete and push each other Yeah, especially because a lot of the research that comes out of these supercomputers is shared in the academic community not hoarded in Proprietary ways which I almost attempted to say unlike Google and Facebook and those guys But honestly as far as AI goes Google and Facebook have been very good about open sourcing Yeah, most if not all of what they do there Also, let's remember this day June 11 2018 as the day that we had the petaflop supercomputer story So in a decade, I'm gonna go Remember when that was a super Petaflops used to be real fast 13 is an extra flop. I've got 200 petaflops on my wallet clip. There's probably a Facebook memory of me like Touting some 50 petaflop computer up buzz out loud back in the day. So there you go My first computer had like 12 megabytes of RAM or something like that Microsoft is accepting pre-orders in the UK and the US for its $100 Xbox adaptive controller The shipping beginning August 3rd We've talked about this on the show before the adaptive controller is designed for accessibility two large programmable buttons 19 Jacks that be connected to peripherals like joysticks buttons and switches And I like to see that this was getting a lot of play out of the e3 news One of the reasons is it's one of the few hardware pieces of news coming out of e3 But also more accessibility for gaming is a positive thing because it brings more gamers into the world Absolutely, and you know, we've talked about it a little bit But I think that the more the but that you can have the ability to see People interact with it and I'll be curious to see because it's now a platform, right? Like yeah, you can build specific tools for and I'm wondering if there's any other Types of devices that aren't getting the attention because this is Microsoft that this is getting And especially want to know if there's anybody that's using this once it goes on sale It's it's not going to start hitting stores until September But you can order it from the Microsoft store now and the first shipping dates were August 3rd They may have slipped by now if they've sold a bunch of them But if anybody does use this feedback at daily tech news show comm I'd like to hear more about it for sure Yeah, even even accessibility obviously is the focus here, but with 19 jacks I'd be interested to see you know what somebody decides. This is my rig I've figured it out because there. Yeah, there are a lot of peripherals that you can you can add to your gaming experience and whether it's Accessibility that you actually need or it's just the way that you like to work Lots of options. Yeah. All right. You guys want to talk about hip-hop Yeah, I know you do I know Tom does music business worldwide reports that Apple has hired Ryan Newman the editor for the BBC's hip-hop and grime focused Graham is very popular UK sort of hip-hop music genre one extra To bring his expertise to Apple music now not the first time this has happened Apple previously recruited radio ones Zane low very well-known DJ and also I Don't know interviews ever everybody these days on the Apple music channel beats one also worth noting that Austin Dabo formerly of radio one is now senior editor for Spotify's UK programming So kind of an interesting trend going on where Spotify and Apple music obviously kind of the two front runners but music services are piggybacking on DJ and music personalities own You kind of curated audience to beef up their Cred well I think it's it makes sense that they are pulling from BBC radio because there are few places that have that radio Means as much as it does in the UK and and because of BBC radio it is listened to by so many their radio culture there I think is interesting and different where in America. It's a little bit more diffused and regionalized So in in an odd way, I feel like there they are kind of leading the way programming wise Because they can they can do things that Isn't possible in in the American radio market, but I don't know I mean like Zane Lola that was a really really smart hire for Apple initially And he did like one Drake interview that I listened to and then it feels like I although I'm a happy Apple music Subscriber I feel like I have not gotten a lot out of their radio feature aside from that initial buzz I'm with you and I use Apple music on a daily basis and there are certain playlists like there's the you know kind of That's called like a one hip-hop or whatever and I'm always playing that because they they rotate through a lot of songs that I might not Find otherwise, but yeah, the DJ stations Sometimes they'll be an interview where I'm I'm interested or some sometimes they'll be sort of a guest DJ or there are certain kind of appointment viewing Things that that Apple music and I know Spotify does as well draws me in But I miss most of it. Yeah, and I just don't feel like they have I Gotta listen every day content Like and and I don't I don't know what or if they want that like I would assume they did They made a real big deal about beats one radio when it launched and it's still going and they haven't fired Zane low Instead they've gone and hired another Yeah, BC radio programmer DJ, so My guess without knowing anything well enough to yeah May not be working for you, but it must be working for somebody. I've got to work for somebody. Yeah. No, absolutely I mean, I I would like to see I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm just old Maybe all the kids are on beats one. No, that's funny because I when I'm thinking about this story The general principle I pull out of it is I would have thought Radio DJs would be a dying art relegated to super niche areas, right? Yeah, it was always when I was coming up in radio the the assumption was yeah Yeah, might get lucky and become a Rick D's, but you probably won't yeah So if you want to have a lucrative career, you might want to try something else And what this is showing is you still in the world of algorithms and Pandora Where everyone is like oh Spotify can make a playlist that's perfect for you there's still value being put on human curation and Your resistance to this kind of tempers my enthusiasm because I'm like well Maybe they're just betting on it and pouring more money after bad good money after bad I don't know but if they're right and they're like no We're seeing the return people like beats one better than the kid than the algorithmic playlist people want to have a grime Station that is programmed by somebody that really knows this space Then this is an example of what I've been saying for a long time Which is the robots won't replace you the robots will give you the latitude No to pay people to do really high-quality work And I will think that there are that I do that I think that there are two different elements about radio that are There and they're both kind of on the ascendancy in their own ways One is obviously music finding music that you like from people that you want to that you are investing as taste makers The second is the talk element the personality element and that I think is also on the ascendancy You've seen you know a cultural relevance for shows like the Breakfast Club or or the Dan Levittard show on the sports side They're becoming more and more reliable draws as television properties. So these things in the in the shattering monoculture Persona radio personalities which are always the ones that kind of build the the tribes Are on on their eyes. So who knows I Don't know there's something about the fact that and I'm just putting this together right now So it's not a fully formed thought but there's something about the fact that when someone gives you a recommendation in context It works so much better. Yeah, if someone explains to you Let me explain what Dunkirk was historically then shows you the Dunkirk trailer You're way more likely to be interested in seeing that movie than if someone just said hey There's a movie about Dunkirk some World War two thing and I'm not only into World War two Same thing with music if a really good DJ puts the song in context before you plays it and tells you a little bit about the artist Going back Casey Kasem style America top 40 You're more likely to listen closely and maybe like that song than you would have if they're just play it cold And in some automated playlist and I think Justin you were you were you were hitting on this earlier is that There may be an age thing here, but I know for me. I still listen to terrestrial radio certain stations I know what's happening, you know morning becomes eclectic is on a local station here in LA And I love that show and I listen to all the stuff that they play even though it's not up to me When you know Pandora came along it was like You know a little bit more algorithmic But still you don't really know what you're getting and then we got streaming music services where it's like I know what I can get and I don't really need to rely on this So it's a little hard for me to use The same format because I've supposedly gotten a solution for the way that things used to be But I think perhaps younger or just folks that are have different musical tastes Don't necessarily see it that way having a curated DJ session on beats one on Apple music is Just as good as radio if not better. Maybe we need a Ryan Newman for news Hey folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines available on the anchor app also on Amazon Echo and the Google home Thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit submit stories and also vote on them to you know Let us know what you like want to hear more about daily tech news show reddit.com We also have a Facebook group Facebook comm slash group slash daily tech news Shoe, and we know it's like 80s era technology, but we still read those electronic mail messages We do we don't even send them to spam Michael and rainy season Yokohama as he describes it has some thoughts on our Japan Airbnb story from Friday where a lot of Arabian bees were getting shut down Michael says one of my jobs is actually helping tourists get baseball and those kinds of tickets when they're visiting Japan and the Arabian Bee regulation changes are hitting my customers big time. My services didn't used to serve Arabian Airbnb customers specifically but when I started doing this a few years ago a lot of the posts were actually holding companies Not necessarily compliant with their buildings rental agreements because our guest names aren't on the box number for the room Sometimes delivery of tickets to the Airbnb were failed or denied even when a host agreed to accept a package for a guest I don't think they knew what they were agreeing to and so they weren't always accepting registered mail I eventually worked with the Japan post to have customers pick up their packages of tickets at say a local post office I can usually get them close despite many Airbnb hosts not giving a complete address But because of the hassle I'm getting emails from people who are just changing their plans And I have a feeling that this next week is going to be busy redirecting packages Can what were with the changes that I did not catch up on this? Basically, you had to be registered in the story We mentioned the other day was that if you weren't registered already and you had bookings after June 1st 15th You had to cancel those bookings Wow Okay, so because I we stayed in Japan on an Airbnb and it was a great thing But they were very cagey our host was very clear to not talk to anybody else in the oh, yeah Oh, yeah, well you get that in the states too Yeah, Michael was was very Circumstance in talking about his service, but I'm familiar with it because I I didn't realize He was a buzz-out-loud listener back then but I looked up Japan ball comm is a possible way to go to Japan Oh, nice And Japan ball is in partnership with Bob the Vasey a former GM from Major League Baseball and they do baseball tours of Japan Oh, nice So anyway, Michael didn't ask for the plug, but I'm gonna give it anyway. You might want to check out Japan ball dot com Well, thanks Michael and also thanks to Justin Robert young for being with us in person at Tom's Daily tech news show headquarters. What's been going on with you? Did you have a fun weekend? We did. Yeah. Thank you to every deal a daily to a new show listener who came out to our Night Attack live shows Brian and I did shows in San Diego in Los Angeles over the last two days It was a blast to see everybody. We had great crowds. So thank you. 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Talk to you then His show is part of the frog pants network. Get more at frogpants.com Sure have diamond club Just waltz in and start howling nobody likes that I should have mentioned bioCal gave me one of the light-up diamond club signs for the set Also people wanted me to do this Justin. Oh, you can't see it. Oh wait. Why whatever they wanted to want me to prove that you're not a hologram You're you're this is Screams he's been working on this mime stuff for For months now to just to sell this Pevers ghost illusion Justin really looks like Doesn't he though? It's the eyebrows. I worked really hard on it. It is. Yeah, it's good. You've really Really worked on that composite So what do you think about a title for this show? By the way, this show was great But not that I don't expect all of our shows to be great But it was it was the kind of of news day where I'm like We'll see we'll see where we go and we went some really cool places that I didn't anticipate So yeah, I agree. I agree with you. I'd buy Sometimes yeah between 8 a.m. And 10 a.m. A lot tends to sort of fall into place Every day is different, but yeah this morning. I was sort of like, hmm besides e3. What do we got? And it Turns out lots. Yeah Lots big lots. Yes, which is a sponsor. No, it's not. We don't have Well, except for big lots those great values and big lots going on over there Go ahead and try and use a promo code use promo code DTNS at your physical checkout And they will give your entire order to you for free They will give you someone else's Many dumb questions about large chain stores because they've frightened me is it big lots the same as a home depot? No Oh, what is it two different stories? Well big lots. I think I know it's I know it's a different store But the same idea home improvement Want to know what I don't know Okay, so big lots what are what are the lots In my mind I was like big lot sounds like a Costco you buy a big thing of toilet paper It's a lot. Yeah big lot of toilet paper. Well, okay. I really thought it was like House lots. Well, yeah, I think it's it I think it comes from a retail term Like I were like a wholesale term more technically. Yeah Oh a lot being a large amount of something they have deals on furniture patio mattresses Okay, so I guess they're there they're like everything at Costco. That's not food Kind of yeah, it's see I can't the eye. You know, how there's this Sponsored by them. Don't go. Don't go to big lot. If we were Like it frightens I just want to make that clear throw a brick through big lot Don't throw a brick through anybody's windows. Oh, sorry Speaking of we were we were briefly talking about reality programming and the real world came up before the show on good day internet Yeah, there was the San Diego real-world crew where one of the girls who actually is has since passed away She had a known affliction where she was afraid of large boats. Oh And when you live in San Diego, at least yeah, you know, it was an issue like if she's a ship She was you know crippled with fear and it's she's there. There's a term for it I can't remember the name of it right now, but it's it's a real thing and I feel that way about large stores I'm not actually like going to be. Oh, wait, so I want to avoid them always Do you have big fears about large stadiums like any fears about big lots? I would don't really go to a lot of large stadiums, but it's no it's it's it's a Costco a Kmart What do you think of candy dangling or perhaps we can remember it for you wholesale? I Don't even know what that question means. I'm just picking a title. Oh Oh, it's like what does that have to do with the cost? Like that either He's like the owners of my candy dangling mean remember I kept mentioning that you know Microsoft needs to dangle some really good game. Oh, I see got it. Got it. Oh, that's good. Gotcha. All right We say Microsoft Microsoft Candy dangling That could I don't know to yourself That's a bad one. Good I was thinking we can remember it for your wholesale too, which is a Philip gay dick novel and it's the one total recall is based on Which we can remember for you wholesale No, I'm saying I recognize that Keep your memories to yourself going once going twice going. That's it. Oh Go So wait, Sarah you were I would I would often see in your Instagrams and social media that you were a a Giants the live you would go to Giants games When I lived there, yeah, when you live there like so did that not freak you out? No, it's not well I mean it depends on the crowd, right? It's not crowds Okay, wording arenas that bother me It's not even really like a large music festival even though I don't go to those very often But it's not because of my fear of people. It's there's something about large stores where things are stacked really high There's so much peanut butter and then they just like sell a tractor and it's like it's overwhelming And I can't deal with them. Gotcha. Those peanut butter tractors. They're you have you have shopping overload Yeah, it's more of the And my mom and my mom, you know, she loves Costco and this is like, you know, I mean, it's she's Eating for one. So it's it has nothing to do with like you're having to like, you know, like feed all these people necessarily although I know it's real their stores are really good for people who got a lot of stuff to buy at one Time and and it's like super store. Yeah, but they give me like low-grade panic attacks Eileen does not like big crowded stores either I do all the grocery shopping because when I make her come with me She just gets irritable because of the store. She doesn't like be there and I like Costco either same reason But she also loves going to baseball games and music I will say that a Costco crowd on a Sunday Makes me want to bring a scimitar and slice. Yeah, I'm more like that Like I get frustrated with just like you're getting in your way and stuff But I don't I think that's different from what Sarah is describing. It's not it's not the crowdedness Aspect of it if it were an empty Costco, it would bother me the same way Is it the enormity of like having it's all of the like how do they get all that stuff up there? And I need it, you know forklift and there's too much Everything's very big almost like a claustrophobia, but that's not quite the right word What I'm sensing from you Sarah is that it's it's just as much about the idea of the store as it is anything else Even though the idea of the store sounds great. It's convenient You know one-stop shopping. You got everything. You need a swimsuit. You need a I don't know the new plates Yeah, yeah, you ramen, right got some socks all of it But but I but that's kind of you know, that's I'm still on some weird mom-and-pop hardware store thing You know where I just I'll just oh you go to Home Depot or Lowe's I've never been to Home Depot or Lowe's. Well, I think what you're trying to say Sarah is you were born in the small town Probably died in a small town L.A. Darlin brought her to this small town Just like me. Yeah, yeah, little pink houses No, that's different song Jack and Diane Yeah, love those two. They were just simple kids. I can die and yeah, well, it's it's funny It's like I don't really I don't know what's wrong with me because one might say well You must love Amazon then right so you can avoid a lot of these stores if you really don't want to go I can't was on either. I just want to go to little stores and make my life harder for myself I know you don't like it because it has such a wide choice. You kind of have to work and crippled Yeah, that makes that's actually that's a real thing for a lot of stores that offer too much Yeah, there there was a moment when and this is another go-game story But we're I was with a bunch of the other game runners and we were discussing travel Tips basically like we're trying to share with each other create a knowledge base of Things that we did travel wise that can make our life easier and what we found out very quickly is that? Everybody has their own process and nobody wanted to change at all, right? They just had the thing that they did and that's what they did and I'm kind of sensing that You know, it's like hey look shopping is a pain in the butt It involves a lot of things that we don't like to do making decisions spending money Determining the future like these are all things that are kind of frustrating to do and yet to Our pathways be them mental or emotional that we forge We are going to stick to them because the only thing more painful than doing this painful thing over and over again Is trying to think of a new way to do this painful thing? You know, I actually got to a point and I know four square and you know swarm now is is Not necessarily is as ubiquitous as it used to be but When I would travel I started to get kind of obsessed with like okay. I'm in a new city You know, let's say it's you know London, you know where I'm like I won't like the coolest coffee in whatever neighborhood I'm in, you know So I'd look it up and then there's like five different choices and then I'm reading all the reviews I'm trying to figure out like okay with all the knowledge that I've just received like And it started to yeah, like get overwhelming where it's choice paralysis it's it is where you're like I really want to make it like the best choice But you also know that no one's really you and so how can you really choose based on everybody's mixture of fear of opportunity lost with and trying to make a decision been being overwhelmed with like just Details, right? So we when we went to London We wound up doing the exact same thing and you just said Sarah Ashley now we're like let's find the nicest place and we get and she's vegan So we got to find a vegan play there's some over the vegan options And so we do and we do all of our research and we walk into this cafe We're like, oh, this is kind of cool. This is a hip cafe kind of looks like Every cafe that we go to normally in the Bay Area that we walked in and there were pictures of the San Francisco Giants on the wall and the bartender was wearing a Yankees hat It's like oh Yeah, like look at what we did look at what we did look we've been all this ever we went around the world And we went to the exact same restaurant Yeah, and a weird way every time I've traveled overseas I've always gone with someone who's lived there And so I've always just like just put you know what I can and cannot eat and what I do and do not like just I'll go wherever Well, and that's you know, it's a little bit of that throwback thing when I I mean I'm sure I'll be you know obsessively looking at coffee shops in an unfamiliar city sometime on the road But I've kind of gone back to like, you know, I'm just gonna walk down the street and yeah Stop looking at google street view all the time before I go anywhere so that by the time I get there I've already seen it You know, it's like I believe looks at a four square to get like some big recommendations So we'll always have a couple places to hit. Yeah, but then the rest of the time We just want to leave for wandering and just like running That's that's even if you kind of get a dud here and there it's like that's part of the adventure. Yeah Depends on way more obviously there. I will give like top marks to my niece-in-law Uh, because when we went down to moss fail, which is a tiny place in australia Her recommendations were invaluable because It's there were limit. It's funny. There were limited enough options that it didn't become paralysis of choice But we're like, no, I see three restaurants. Which one should we pick and she always is like, oh, you want to go If you want this indian food go here if you want this go here And and so it's nice to have a guide in in that narrow circumstance like right Yeah, be if any of you were to visit my hometown and were to say of the two sushi restaurants Which is the good one. It's like, I know where you should go. Yeah. Yeah There's a bad one And you won't necessarily know that But but again, yes, it's a smaller pool overall Uh, I can't see the two places still around Actually, you know for my parents hometown because all the restaurants I used to like no longer exist or they changed hands and they suck Well, we're gonna bid adieu to our live video stream. Thanks folks for uh, watching us on youtube whether it's live or not Yes Remember to wash your hands before you eat. See you tomorrow Good