 You know what I'm saying? That's my big brother and I learned sign language and that has taken me so many places and I'm doing a book called, I learned to hear it through a deaf man's ears. That's what made me such a cold songwriter and producer. Cause he could only hear Michael Jackson through putting the boom box to his face and then they go through his jaw to his brain. Cause the ear is dead, it's vestigial at that point and they ain't working. So the bone, the skull has to be his ear. Yeah, we on Boss Talk TV. Shout out to Ihi, the reason you see. All the way up to Kanye got wounded in that accident and then that took me out to LA. Yeah. To be around him, to be more present as a protector and as a financier and all these different things that come with being a big brother. I grew up with little brothers, you know what I'm saying? And my big brother was deaf so he was a little bit like a little brother to me too. Had somebody I had to take care of. Yeah. He was deaf and people take advantage of a deaf kid that's real. Luckily, he was the toughest nigga in the world. He's the left that he could knock anybody out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He could run faster than everybody else. What I'm saying, all he says is even stronger. No question, he could do all the flips in the world. He could get straight A's, he could play baseball, football, volleyball, basketball, he could jump, he could run, you know. So he didn't need that kind of physical protection but he needed the protection from people emotionally tormenting him. That's right. Making fun of him. And he said, Malik, what they say? What they say? If I tell them they said something bad then he getting they shit. It's all over. Oh, fully. I know. One thing my daddy told me when I was real little, I was like four, maybe five. And I was telling my grandma. And when my brother came to play with me, he was two years old to me, he was seven. And the big kids who I really loved, like teenager kids that used to let me be they little mascot, they ostracized him and kind of like made fun of him and abused him. And he was crying because they was bigger than him and they was bullying him. And my father asked what happened. And I didn't really know what to say. Cause I seen it happening, not really having the vocabulary. My father said, man, don't you ever let nobody take advantage of or harm your brother. That's real. You stand with him and ever since then. It's been up. Ever since then. Me. Never, never, never, never, never, never that I abandoned him in any way. You know what I'm saying? That's my big brother. And I learned sign language and that has taken me so many places. And I'm doing a book called, I learned to hear it through a deaf man's ears. That's what made me such a cold songwriter producer. Cause he could only hear Michael Jackson through putting the boom box to his face. And then they go through his jaw to his brain. Cause the ear is dead, it's vestigial at that point and they ain't working. So the bone, the skull has to be his ear. The vibrations. And I see how he, the rhythm in which he moved. He's like, what are you saying? So I would tell him the lyrics then we got the tape. Cause he was here on the radio. We were taping from the radio. When we got the real tape, it got the words in there. So he could read along and I would give him the cadence on that. And boom, eight Grammys. Wow. That's odd, man. So I mean, this music thing, man, like when you, and I'm going to go back cause you went to LA after Kanye West, Rick and you stayed with him how long until he got them better? Till he got better. And until basically I stayed with him until the spring time till it was time for his album to come out. Till it was time for, well, I had to go back to Chicago. I was still in the street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had to go back to my hustle but I came out with 500. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I came out to LA with 500. That's what he said he needed. And you know, the camera that they shot the, the documentary, the genius, Kanye West genius documentary. I bought that camera. That's all, that's all. Cause Kanye didn't want to use a stolen camera. He didn't want the energy of a stolen camera, you know? So I was like, let's buy a new camera. How much is the new camera? You know what I'm saying? This is back in the days when cameras was, you know, It was expensive. $5,000. That's right. That's right. For a regular ass shooting camera. They didn't have no bells and whistles and shit. But I grew up with Cootie. Okay. You know, I grew up with Cootie and I put Cootie in a lot of positions to win, put him into positions to get money, you know, the whole nine and I, you know, Cootie was, I credit Cootie with one of the people that gave me the courage to leave the street. I kept trying to leave the street for years, from like 94 until 2005 when I finally left. It took me like 11 years to leave the street officially. So I would leave and then I would go broke. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, okay, now, then go write the fuck back. One time I had to go to my little brother, how's Omar? He's on 115, he asked me for some money for his rent or something, pay something. I say, man, okay. I said, bro, I got to go back to these streets, G. I said, we prayed together. And my brother, we prayed in his basement. So I had to go back to the street. That was the one last time and we prayed. And I was like, man, I don't know how I'm gonna make it. Cause I knew Niggas was telling and all that. And we prayed our way through it. And I'm blessed I never had to tell him nobody. What year was this? That was 2004, I left the streets in 2005. Wow. I went and we had a deep prayer, man. You know what I'm saying? He credit my brother with that, you know what I'm saying? He ain't never been a fan of me type shit. You know, like he ain't, you know, he's always had art in his heart. I mean, there's some guilt there. There's some, you know, some pain from his mama. He loved his mama. She was good to him. I understand that. I don't love his mama. Our mother, I don't love her. And it's okay not to love her. You know what I'm saying? It's okay. I don't hate her, but I don't have the love for her that you would think that you would need to have for the maternal unit that put you into the world because she was an antagonist, a consummate antagonist, an enemy to me, an oppressor to me. And by him wanting to take up for her it puts a rift between he and I, which is fine. He's grown and I'm just a person that's like, cool, that's who you love, love her. That's fine. But you can't love her anymore. At the end of the day, I just feel like, and I never put nothing in a box because everything's always evolving. It's always evolving. You know what I mean? Every situation, I don't want to take it to heart because I know already as God do His thing, everything will roll out. You know what I'm saying? But you got to be patient. And without faith, you can't have patience. Without patience, you can't have faith. So you know what I'm saying? You got to have both. So at the end of the day, I'm able to work with everybody when it comes down to thinking that way. Talk boss. You know what I'm saying? That's the only way to deal with people that you love and not detach yourself from. And I've proven my love to everybody. They've not proven they love to me. I get it. You know what I'm saying? And it's that time. And now it's the harvest, now it's the harvest time. Let me harvest what you planted. Y'all been harvesting what I planted. Y'all ain't never went without. Y'all got bombed out of jail. Y'all got y'all kids fetched. I got y'all rent paid. Now I got to move to a new season because I can't have God being like, uh-uh. I told you, leave that alone. You already done enough. You done that. Let them do for you. If they don't do it, they just don't do it. I'm not mad. No, but at the end of the day, even on Spider-Man, they say, to who much it's given, much is required. And I did all. I was great. Responsibility. There you go. So you already know what will come with leadership. No question. So at the end of the day, you are that one. And there ain't no way to get off around that. No way. Go ahead. Okay, I got a question. Yes, ma'am. Earlier you said you went to prison. How old were you the first time whenever you got in trouble? I never went to prison. I've been in jail. And I went to Illinois Youth, how old were you the first time? First time I got arrested, I think I was 13, 14. And I heard you mention that you've been in jail 28 times? No, I've had 82 arrests. 82 arrests. So how many of that end up being in jail? Only like four, five times, man. Oh, so you're lucky. Yeah, lawyers, man. Blessed. Now lawyers.