 And so I was going to say, whenever I hear that voice recording in progress, it always reminds me of my most intimate times with your mom. You have an audible recording. Just so everybody in the room knows that we're recording. No, no, I actually have someone sitting there filming. Oh, wow. Nice. Hey, welcome back to our stupid direct subcorp. I'm Rick. And you can follow us on, uh, is that, is that what's next? You can follow us on Instagram. Yeah, that's what comes next. Thank you. Follow us. You should account scribe and if you like button, I'm out of my mind right now. You are welcome back today. We're doing a movie review of everybody and we are doing a review. If you're wondering, since you clicked on the title here, you know, what film we're reviewing, reviewing the new 2023 Hindi film, Animal. And you're usually like, aren't you usually doing this from your car? Yeah. We, you know, really there was, we usually do. Well, we could just say we're going to blame it on LA traffic. Yeah, if you follow me on Instagram, you know what happened because I did a little, a little story on it, but what happened was LA traffic. It's where you, you drive because it's, it's, it's a little bit of drive. It's over by the airport from where we are. And you leave your house with a good 25, 30 minutes to spare. And then you wind up driving for another 45 minutes beyond the time you needed to be there. Yeah. So I, I just made our showing yesterday, right as it started. I walked in and then Rick would have been way late. And so he went this morning. And so we did not see it. We did not see it together. Yeah. So that's why you're getting a review later and not in the car. But we just saw the new 2023 Animal directed and this is part written by Sandeep Reddy, Vanga, who is the director of Arjun Singh and Kabir Singh, those Telugu movies, starring Grant Beer, Anil Kapoor in a, in a whole bunch of others. Obviously, since this is new, we're going to start off with non-spoilers. And then before we get into some spoils, we will tell you before we get into it. But yeah, Rick, your initial thoughts of Animal. Long, traumatic pause. It's the old adage, Corbin. Gotcha. Gotcha. You don't have anything nice to say. There you go. I have a short review from my side, unless everybody wants to hear me rant. I, I, I could almost tell after I watched it that you weren't where you weren't going to like it, like easily. There's, and I actually, I just didn't tell you because I was like, I, it's, we, you've got to watch this one. Sorry. So I wasn't going to tell you anything. Well, thank you, thank you for saying sorry, because I said to withdraw him when I got home, I said, I don't know why he made me see that. I, I, I anticipated one. So I was like, yeah, he's got to see it. Sorry. It's a big, I know. Yeah, I know he's got to see it. But yeah, I, I'm not going to say I don't have anything nice to say, but it's a, it's a big disappointment for me for sure, especially with what I was anticipating. And from Kabir Singh as well, which, you know, you guys know, we love Kabir Singh. We are, we were a parent on the table for that movie when it came out. And so I was very disappointed. So I'll talk about a couple of things that I did like. And then a lot of stuff I was, I was very disappointed with about the movie. But let's just start with the positives. Rand Beers performance, I thought was a good performance, even though I think the way that they, the story, for lack of a better term, of the movie was kind of hardly, hardly there for him. But I think he gave the role his all. And he definitely wasn't the reason I didn't like the movie. And so I will give him that shout out from that. I loved Bobby Dole and I fucking hate that they criminally underused that character. Spoiler, sorry. God damn, I was so pissed off because I was like, this is not, he's, he's in it. So you know that, right? He pops on screen. I'm like, oh, yes, I'm back in. This is going to be great. God damn it. Did they criminally underutilize him? God damn it. That's that, that, that that part of it is a bunch of stuff that is more like not as upsetting as that aspect for me is the fact that you have this goddamn great character that Bobby Dole is just fucking killing it. And then you're just like, no, we're going to use anything else. We're going to fill this time with random ass shit and not Bobby Dole's character. So that, that's what it would you think about Bobby Dole's character? I agree with you in the fact that by the time he appeared on screen, the analogy I could give to it, it would be like somebody who already knew they were dead floating to the bottom of the ocean and they were just having their final moments of consciousness and a really beautiful whale came swimming by and for that last moment you looked and you went, yeah, life is beautiful and then you died. Stupid. That's a decent analogy, though, because he was the, he was the reminder for a good three minutes and 45 seconds of the first scene that he's in at his wedding. He was, he was a reminder of the fact that there actually is, is this, this thing, I was so mad and so disappointed and so screwed up in the head when this was over, because it was so bad. So when I got home and Drani was rewatching some of the morning show and what I will often do when I come back from a film I don't like is I will say I need to cleanse my palate. I need to watch some good acting to really restore my hope in mankind. And I told her on the phone when I was driving home, I said, I don't need to cleanse my palate. I need a full body scrub. And I got in the room, 60 seconds of Billy credit. I'm a dork. Here's how much I love this art form. 60 seconds of Billy crud up after having just sat through what I did with animal. I cried. She paused the TV and I looked at her and I said, just 60 seconds of him and I feel alive again. I agree with you. He was, if I have to accentuate something that had any goodness to it, it would be that scene with him. Yeah, yeah, that character. Just God make an entire movie with that man and that character. That's what I want to see. Because the one of the biggest disappointments for me in this is that one, what I was promised, incredibly violent. Not actually that violent. I'm sorry for those of you that actually think this film is incredibly violent. Go watch the film Tamil film. Go watch the Tamil film Rocky. That has a fraction of the budget and I'll show you an actual violent film in the Indian cinema. Obviously, obviously, this is a big and commercial, but like that wasn't delivered for me. I was actually kind of disappointed in the interval because we had seen a lot of it already. And so I was like, OK, so what else are you going to give me? I'm if this is the entire thing. So that that aspect I was very disappointed with the fact that it just it was advertised as this incredibly. And sure, there was some violence, but I wouldn't classify this as oh, this is insane violence. What is it? It's not. It's it's really not not at all like I love violence in films. This is not that violent of a film. I think it wanted to be. I think it wanted to be edgy. And that's one of the biggest downfalls of it. It's like it did stuff that was like. Yeah, oh, this is going to be cool and edgy, but it wasn't like. It was all like just so strange coming from the director of Kabir Singh, which I thought everything that movie was so natural and so so organic. And the screenplay in Kabir Singh was great. It just everything kind of that was. And I keep saying this. That was one of the biggest thing I think is the screenplay or lack thereof, especially in the second half. Of this thing that was just like what are we what are we doing in this? Like this is this is the whole that that was one thing I was worried about. But I was like three hours and twenty three minutes. You've got to be you've got to be damn confident in like keeping me engaged. Right. Yeah. And it just like the first half I was like, OK, I got through this. And then the second half outside of Bobby Tom, I was like, what the fuck is going on? Like, I don't even know what is going on anymore in this film. Like it went off the proverbial rails. Yeah, there's no story. Yeah, it's just there's just no story. There's a laughably bad kind of it felt like Michael Scott wrote it in the second half kind of like a twist. Yeah. Absolutely. It felt like a Michael Scott. It felt like Michael Scott wrote a film and he's like, this is a twist. I'm not surprised that studios looked at this and that one of the trailers I had, I don't know if you did. But one of the trailers I had before the movie was a Jason Statham movie. That's about this right audience. Yeah. No, you'll know what I mean when I say that. So you'll know what I'm about to say. I'd rather watch Boyhood. Oh, good, good Lord. I don't know that go that far. But Boyhood is better written. Oh, that's a that's a statement. But. Yeah, so that the the at first, because the other stuff, the before we get to the spoilers and stuff like that. Yeah, like in the beginning, there was one very clunky writing, which was once again, very strange from the guy that wrote Kabir Singh and everything. And yeah, very clunky. Like sometimes very clunky in the beginning, at least, worked for me in the nonlinear style of editing. I was like, OK, I can get behind this sometimes. But then other times it was like so jarring in how they decided to edit this together. I was like, what? Well, that like, why would you do that? That doesn't make this flow at all, right? Like Corbin, like it was very strange. The editing some not all the like not all the writing was clunky, but like, especially with supporting characters. Very clunky writing and awful villain. Like, I don't know if he would be the main villain, but they're one of the villains pre interval before the interval that I would have much rather you have Bobby Dole in that role because goddamn, that character is way more interesting to me. And he's a better actor. And the brother was interesting to me. Bobby Dole's brother was interesting to me, too, as well. So I was like, why not make those people the main villains? But they used them for like four fucking minutes. And it pissed me off that my two favorite characters in this whole thing were used for like four minutes of the film. Yeah. And not only was not only was the writing extraordinarily clunky, very thin in terms of story and plot. Yeah. But every single character except Bobby Dole's character. Yeah. And what I'm about to say isn't a credit to the writing. It's a credit to Bobby Dole. But every character was so hollow and one dimensional. There was just no depth of humanity in any character. Yeah, it felt like a one one note song the whole time for all the characters. They were just it felt like once again, very strange coming from the guy that wrote Kabir Singh because that was such a beautiful film and so well put together. But the fact that it felt like he just wanted to make a violent film and like, oh, this is this is a story that is fine. I get there's a cultural there's cultural differences of like how fathers and sons are in India. I get all that. We've seen it before. But it just it like the lack of like the story line of this was just like it felt almost nonexistent outside of a felt like. Yeah. Well, it felt like and we can talk about this in the spoilers. What it really felt like was the idea for this was I'm going to make the most violent bloody movie out there. I'm going to make this just this crazy, crazy misogynistic guy who's just an ass and he's just going to be over the top. And then when we're filming, we're just we're going to we're going to do this because it looks cool. We're going to do this because it like we're going to have this bad ass thing. And we're going to do this because everyone's going to talk about it. Nothing's story driven. Nothing's driven from a character's needs or their why, especially when you have trailers and this concept that we're anticipating based on the menu you gave us that we're going to see something profound with heavyweights like Ranveer Kapoor and Anil Kapoor with a father, something that would be a story for the ages about a father and son. And that just all got literally shot to shit. Yeah. You could you could tell like. That the director had shots in mind. He's like, this is going to be a real cool shot. This is going to be a rain. Sure, it is cool shot. But I can tell the writing that I could tell that you wanted it to be a cool shot. And so then it comes off as conscribed. And so like it just it may be what characters said characters. Characters would say something and you knew by the way the actor tried to deliver this absolutely empty, hollow, pointless, stupid line that it was intended to shock everybody that they're talking that way. It really was insulting and infuriating. Yeah. And once again, I know there's culture stuff like about talking about sex and all that kind of stuff that they were trying to because I was in a theater that was half full because I was still at an earlier showing and people giggled. Obviously, I'm the only white person in there and they giggled. And so I get that there's difference in culture of like what's funny because it's taboo in your culture and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like I didn't even really understand why it was needed. The the whole therapist scene in the first questions he asked is about sex life. And I'm like, why would that be the first question you ask? Like, I get it. You know, I well, no, that's to me. Should should we should we get into spoilers? Should we get into spoilers now? Anyways, yeah, yeah, we we didn't we didn't love it that much getting. Oh, I tested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm going to be very honest. I agree. I agree with what Anupama Chopra said. And the end of her review of this movie, I didn't say this movie because there's a character at the end of this movie who says that they feel like they want to throw up. I did, too. Is that what she said? Yeah, my word. I haven't seen I haven't seen a review. But yeah, you guys will get into some spoils and we'll talk about some more in-depth stuff. If you see if you love the movie and you think we're idiots, obviously, you probably already tuned out this. So that's fine. But let us know what you thought about it in the comments below. And but we're going to get into the spoils now. So if you haven't seen it and don't want to be spoiled, please go watch a film and then come back, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. So what were we going to say, Rick? In the doctor, that doctor scene, I mean, yeah, of course, when somebody needs heart surgery, the first thing I'm going to ask them, the first thing that comes to my mind, that makes sense, is I'm going to ask them how often they fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Is it a question that you need to ask as a doctor? Sure. But why it's not going to be your first question? Like, that doesn't make any sense. But yeah, another God, it was laughably bad when was it Ren beer and Tripti? It was Tripti, right? Yeah, in the scene when the car explodes. And then she's like, she's telling them everything, right? About the whole setup. And he's like, well, you thought you double-crossed me? I'm a double-crossing double-crosser. I fucked you. I fucked you to get it out of me. That felt like if you've ever seen like threat level midnight, the amazing office episode where Michael writes a film. Yeah, it felt like it felt like something out of the middle of midnight. It was like at first I was like, OK, so now she feels bad. And she's going to and that was silly enough. And then he's like, no, I knew the whole time. I fucked you a million times to to get it. And then he tried to reason that to his wife. And obviously he's not like supposed to be this good person or anything like that. We already know that. But like that whole thing, it wasn't supposed to be funny, but it was comically bad writing. Yeah. And that whole scene where he tells her that he was having sex with the girl who, you know, a little side note, wasn't their relationship still believable? Yes. That whole scene. When he says I left with Zoya. Yeah. Yeah. When he says to her, I slept with Zoya and she laughs and she says, oh, you were sleeping. Oh, you were resting. Well, then just say that you had sex with her. That whole scene was really, really painful to watch. I felt I don't know how either one of them, but especially Rashmika, I genuinely don't know how you just there was nothing believable about it in the writing at all. Some of the things that he said were so cringy because they were just so obviously written for the point of shock value rather than sustaining justified conversation about a really important topic. And then there was no believability in why she would stay. There was no believability in why this man who were told at the very beginning of the film and in the trailers is so adoring of his father that when he cuts his hair, the minute his dad said, I like to his long hair, he says, well, then I'll grow it back out. Right. The son who would do anything to please his dad has multiple occasions where he has a disagreement with his dad and his attitude is, fuck you. I don't care if you think. What? Yeah. What? How did you go from the world revolves around my hero and I'll be anyone you want me to be if you just love me to? No, I'm not going to apologize. Call him a monkey. Fuck you. I think I think what they were trying to convey is that if basically he can't have his father, nobody can. And so like it was it was one of those one of those kind of things. I didn't get that at all. Yeah, yeah. Now, I'm not going to defend the writing of this film at all, because I didn't. Whether it's storyline or lack thereof or the dialogue writing, it was all. Why considering how bad it is, why the heck? Is this thing nearly four hours long? Yeah, you could have chopped an easy hour off of this, an easy hour. You could have cut in half. Yeah, yeah. And put the like what you didn't put Bobby Dolan put him in like three fours of it. That's that's not. Give me give me some real human interactions of. My goodness. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't. It felt like they wanted to make. A violent film and a massive film. And that everything else was secondary to that, which is something that which is something that they do in India. Obviously, massive films are are made. And the soul thing is to be do things that are entertaining. Right. Not not about story, not about. No, not about acting, not about a story, not about anything. They do stuff specifically that's only for entertainment values. That's that's something that's very specific to Indian cinema and with their massive stuff. And so it felt like they were like, I want to make a violent, massive film and also forgot to put some of the violence in there. Because I see. Here's another thing that was disappointing with the like in that whole interval scene, right? And there was a few moments where they was actually blood and stuff. They cut away a lot. I'm like, really? I thought this was supposed to be the violent thing. Why are we cutting away from the violence? Stop doing that. I know seeing seeing all of the guys getting shot with that gun, I was expecting to see dismemberment. I wasn't expecting to just see everybody fly backward like a giant wind blew them away. Yeah, there was only a few moments that I was like, OK, that's genuinely violent and fun and gory. There was like, I'd say. In a three and a half hour movie, five to ten of those, like just like that part is gory, not the entire scene. That part is gory, like at the end of the spoiler, like when he's chopping the head or Bobby Dole's whole whole thing. Yeah, but incredibly violent, which was great, Bobby. Bobby Dole's all of his scenes were violent and and stuff like that. Or like when like he he double tapped on the guy he had already killed. And then you see his brains on the on the thing. I'm like, that's a genuinely gory moment. I like that. But there was a way too few and far between moments for me. Maybe I just have a higher threshold for violence than Indian Indians do. No, no. I think the difference is that you have a more or a more discerning palette for lack of a better analogy in regard to violence that has an intentionality behind it to convey something about the brutality of the moment. It's not just gratuitous. There is something wonderful conveyance in a character after someone's dead shooting them three times in the face of the shotgun and seeing some brain matter spray everywhere, because that tells you something really visceral about the character and about what other people just witnessed. And I don't, you know, the the the the moment where he is I was I was waiting in that moment. I thought, OK, if you're going for what you said is going to be this really, really violent moment, and here's your fight scene, which had way too many sound effects that sounded weird for the kind of fight they were having that lasted for two hours, apparently, which all people who've had heart surgeries can do that. Did you know that for two hours like that? And now you're looking way now you're looking for way too much logic. But I was expecting I was expecting us to see the whole nine yards a full rip off and either half the capitation or holding his bleeding head in his hand, something along those lines. And even the credit sequence with all the big lot of blood splash big deal. Yeah, I was I was I was hoping like I said, Indian audiences are I guess aren't as accustomed to the violence. But if you want to see an Indian film that is actually violent, go watch the Tamil film if you can find it. Rocky, he's coming out with a new film Captain Miller, which I have very high expectations. Yeah, or even or even the moments that are that are that are brutal, but they're so perfect in jailer. Oh, yeah, Jailer, you know. Jailer's got some really great moments and hour and a half less of a movie as well. Yes, with with a really good good story. It had the mass appeal, but it also had some groundedness and it had some justifiable moments for all of the people who were really fleshed out characters. And you don't expect that. I was expecting that from some of the stars, Anil Kapoor and Ranbir Kapoor. And the maker of Cutter's Thing. Yeah, same, man. It's it's very sad. And yeah. 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