 I don't like it, but it's that or nothing dude. Everyone's in stringers. Everyone's skin is leathery brown You got some meat right there 22s in there. Yeah Yeah, yeah a little bit this though trade your home gym for a gym home You happen to open a new gym in Sacramento. So maybe they should come here make it You know that ladies and gentlemen welcome to the gossip gossip boys topic thunder Topic thunder. I love that rule off the tongue. We are the gossip boys. That is topic This is topic thunder. Welcome Dean Sidoris of caffeine and kilos the legendary Jim McD 3sp.co Kevlar Kai that's stuck dude. It's so good. So his gaming name actually Kai we call him Kai It's morphed. It's evolved. That's kind of evolved and it's not at all. His name is Kyle His gamer name is Kale and we call him Kai Kai just cuz it's Kevlar Kai. Yeah Also, I get 50% of all merch I just wiggle that in there. Fitness has changed over the years, but especially around COVID I feel like fitness has evolved and as we all know the price gouging went ape shit and Most people just started to buy weights to sell them again on Craigslist But there's also many of folk that built a home gym I think we're the only home gym guy as right now is you yeah I'm also out in the you know far away from any gym. Yeah makes sense So it's obviously there's sometimes there's a necessity to have a home gym But it was also just a necessity during COVID. What are the pros? Do you like home gyms? Do you like a home gym? I've basically owned my own gym, which was a home gym in 2009 That I trained people out of and I trained by myself, but what do we think about home gyms? I'm actually the more I get older the more I'm against them Yeah, I'll go I honestly Don't prefer them whatsoever a hundred percent. Yes, I have one of course, but like because you just said that but like I I don't like it, but it's that or nothing. You got a kid. I got a kid. You live in the middle of nowhere I live pretty far The gym option that is close to me down the road is literally like a glorified hotel gym I'm talking a lift to Cole. Maybe a pull-down bar and like some 14 pound up Your wife like trains trains like she's a lifter. Yeah, she doesn't she likes to go ahead She's not a cardio bunny. No. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we kind of we kind of turned into that because like how can I get the most bang for my I'm just saying that she knows how to lift like her idea her idea of fitness isn't Pilates. No, no, no She's like lifts trains. Yeah, she trains. She's in the game. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, my bad But yeah, I'm trying to show her some love and you're beating her back down She doesn't know shit, dude So Yeah, I think that being in a gym being around other people in a gym is important to training as far as like even just like Honestly being around people being motivated from your friends or from strangers and just like having conversations with new people Yeah, and also just like it when you're in the gym and it's in your house It's like a lot easier to just lay off when you're at a gym in an environment I'm here to do some work. I'm here to get in and get out and like work hard That's real easy to fuck that off and home gym That's part of the issue of owning a gym as you don't get in that same mindset My favorite thing of going to the gym used to be the mindset where I'd have like a routine I'd eat lunch at 11 then at noon I'm taking my caffeine and then and then I'm listening to music for half an hour to get to the gym and then it's Good, it's all set up. It is and routine is everything But now you own a gym and you work in a gym You don't get that routine because I'm here for three hours four hours Then I got a train that I don't got a train then I well Basically it turns into basically a home gym. Yeah, but not a worse or not a bad Yeah, me and Jim over the years have talked to many lifters and I actually have changed my opinion Jim, maybe yours has it, but I used to talk a lot about Lifters being able to be at the highest level regardless of whether they train alone or not because back in the day There wasn't powerlifting gyms. So most people did kind of train in their garage or totally by themselves or with like two guys but now Every guy I know that's absolutely dominating the sport pure powerlifting or even strong man They have a crew around them. Yeah, they should have a study for that or something. Yeah Yeah, but by the way, Jim guys are Breaking records and shit decides the online competition Yeah, even that Dan Green used to be one that we'd point out to or Mike to share or whatever Mike to share I think pure necessity and he's a different animal in his brain Dan Green I think was only before he opened his gym and now he has a bunch of people around him You know like there's not a lot of people Bryce Lewis Trains with a bunch of people Jamal Browner bunch of people Bilbo Swaggins John Hacks training with a bunch of people like everyone's around Bilbo Swaggins That's this dude. You're welcome of all time of all time We could even pivot towards like just from a cultural standpoint. Yeah, I grew I mean, I think Mike did too like my dad was a gym rat like just all he did like he played Football for UNLV is a big old DN guy. I remember just going in there and big All right, you're gonna be up there for like fucking three hours have fun And I'm just like and I'll just look out the window and I see all these Macho huge dudes like Chris dim like he's one of his friends or something like that like just bodybuilders Just not really power lifters as much obviously. It's like kind of a it was all kind of the same then. Yeah Yeah, yeah, just like heavy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my first strength and conditioning coach for the world In eighth grade really good guy turned with a bunch of football players I shout him out all the time was best friends with Kyle's dad Which I didn't know and so the gym that I yeah the gym I grew up in was where Kyle's dad also trained And it's it's funny. It's as close to Gold's gym Venice as you could get it or really was it was nuts, dude Everyone's it's stringers. Everyone's skin is leathery brown Everyone's jacked every single person in there was jacked out of the huge dude It looked like I hopped into fucking pumping iron. Yeah, it was insane. It's really cool My coach I think was the only one I didn't remember your dad cuz I was younger and obviously didn't know but my coach was the only dude We wore a hoodie all the time. It'd be a hundred degrees out and so I never knew but sometimes I'd fuck with them You know, I'll be like, oh, you're like, oh, shit. I'm gonna get some meat 22s in there. Yeah Start with them then you're like, oh man. Yeah. Yeah, I think the yeah the home gym culture I mean, I mean, it's not really a culture, but I mean I think it's turning into that a little bit. Yeah, I'm starting to see it. It's almost becoming like a Like a kind of CrossFit mentality almost like, oh, I have a home gym, too Oh, how is it like yeah, I don't know how a conversation I think COVID even our buddy Brandon Campbell It popped off his video started to pop off There's some people that do equipment reviews on YouTube start to pop off during COVID but Brandon I obviously I don't want to speak for him. He's a long-time friend, but his seems out of necessity, too Yeah, kids. I think his issue is it's totally necessity and he kind of lives in what Yeah, yeah, you got kids you got a wife the older you get but but I even think that's more of an argument to try To get out when you can yeah, like you said the culture of the community be a friend to somebody It's probably be easy to get sucked in and just stay there, you know I would never leave my house if someone had if there was a if there was like a gym in my neighborhood Like I'd like the clubhouse. Yeah, I would go to that for a hundred percent. Yeah, it could be kind of shit And you'd still go I would still go. Yeah, I would be fine because you see your friends there You see the people there I would hundred percent and not even a mess with the home gym It's like like the 30-minute commute to like the nearest gym That's just not an option because then it turns an hour workout into two three and I Got literally like 25 to 30 minutes to work out. Yeah, anyways So it's like that actually excuse me rephrase that that I want to dedicate to working out Because like honestly, I'd rather spend that time hanging out with my son Yeah, it's working out when I can't you know, I mean, it's not like a huge priority in this point in my life Yeah, yeah, but I do notice that the CrossFit scene really blew up in the home gym work It's always been big Yeah But like post COVID like during COVID like the CrossFit people a lot of people stayed home with the gyms and never really Went back, but also like a big percentage went back with also they didn't Because I would I almost think the opposite of my head looking at it You know what I mean because they're they're they're their whole thing is community And that's what CrossFit has done so well over the years and and their exercise stuff is so varied Like if you're at home you get a barbell on a jump rope and then all of a sudden you got wall balls We're gonna go buy a medicine bowl tomorrow and then all of a sudden you got you know with this and that and like All right, well, I gotta go get this I gotta get a baseball cuz I gotta toss it down the road I saw this YouTube video this guy's doing this yeah to buy this yeah That all of a sudden you need this then you need a kettlebell then you need a CrossFit's done something so they're more basic than a commercial gym But they're way more complicated than strength training. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I basically do glorified CrossFit without much barbell workouts Yeah, like I do like 45 I still do a lot of strength stuff like squatting and like strict pull-ups and I have like a rack and stuff So I'm still getting in like the strength work I can do deadlifts and stuff like that but as far as like the Olympic lifts I've kind of like removed that from the CrossFit Side of my training and just doing like make sure I'm working on strength and some kind of medic ball conditioner or just body body Bro out for the day. That's what I'm feeling. It's my maintenance orange theory and f45 did and that's why they're arguably making more money They're killing dude my feeling is this though trade your home gym for a gym home Go someplace where you feel comfortable Break your routine like Mike was saying I had and when I had little kids I had home gym stuff and I only worked out after they went to bed and and that's when I had time for it because I was working Sounds like don't have kids is really what I'm gathering from the show. It's hard. It's really hard. Yeah, yeah My neighbor across the street, you know, he's a former CrossFit, you know guy He's an attorney his wife's an attorney They have three kids and he works under his garage because that's really what he gets time for You know, I totally understand that but I think that what I miss most about the old days Was you know, when you were lifting multiply you had to have people around you just couldn't do it Yeah, you can get into your shit. You couldn't get out of it. You certainly force people out of suits again I'm not saying that necessarily but like the whole idea of having a crew Yeah, and it forced the team and and really I thought that's what made the videos that I did back then is the fact that you're Watching a whole team together and yeah, we're all lifting kind of went the other way. Yeah I got my sleeves. I don't really need a spotter because I'm working on our P8 People love seeing people in groups man I think so, too There's there's community and team has been a thing and it will always be a thing tribes have been a thing will always be a thing Cuz like you put your team like that, you know me you see you see Mike Jim and some other guys like bro Okay, I got my boy here. I got my boy here. They're gonna grab my oh, this is sick. That's like me and it's like me and my boy Oh, yeah, you know how much you need to help or how much it helped you so you're more willing to help the other people Like it'd be great if everyone was selfless and just wanted to spot and load and help But until you need help sometimes humans won't be as nice and help others You know what I mean? That's absolutely true If y'all have had a flat tire and I couldn't do that thing and then I figure out how to do it I'm way more likely to help someone else's flat. Well, I have to tell you too that if you were somebody who went who came in Expecting to get help and you hadn't helped other people Yeah, the so back to real quick There is that balance to right where like my you're like talking about Kelsey and what she does is like two three days at Home during the week Saturdays. That's her day. She goes down to the gym She makes that drive and make sure that she he gets in that group environment at least once a week Yeah, and that's I think she probably loves Saturdays that oh, it's like yeah Yeah, it's like she's around her friends They're training like for two hours hard core with the group and it's like yeah So there is that she's done a better job at like still involving that Yeah, but she knows how important that is because like she works out That's probably in that two hours because that's all she could probably do and still being good shape Because how hard they work together in the gym I also wonder if we're just spoiled being in California, you know about like Nebraska's garage gym scenes a little different. Yeah, when it's like minus 40 Yeah, and you're building a room squad. They probably like they probably like built a room. I don't know the true Tom Callis I mean, it's a garage, right? I mean, yeah, that's true. Yeah guys out of his mind Yeah, he's one of those like one percenters with that. Yeah, like a knee and Wilson, right? Yeah, you know back to Jim's point about going to a gym unrelated completely we happened to open a new gym So maybe they should know here make it you know that I've never heard of it. What's it called? Third Street barbell. See you guys there