 Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm with a lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? I need it. But I hit that thing. I hit it. Yes, yes. How you doing? Hey, man, look, man, hey, man, we got a gym in here today, man. Been calling a lot of ruckus on the internet here lately. It's a lot of things going on with this guy, man, hey, man. But the boy come here to let us know what's really going down today, man. Hey, man, that boy with shares in the building, man. What's going on? Say, man, you got a lot of nerves, man. You got a lot of damn nerves. You know what I'm talking about? Man, you made a song, man, and hey, man, you done messed around. You got everybody around listening to that damn song. I didn't know you here. My son sent me that song talking about, Dad, check this out. I said, man, this can't be real what I'm seeing right here. I'm really trying to figure out if this is a fake move or a real move. You know what I'm saying? Like this might be, you know, an act. This could be something that was an act up dramatized situation to keep people's attention. I don't know. My son, you got an interview. I said, man, well, if God say the same, you know what I'm saying? So check it, man. Hey, man, we like to go back in your background. You know what I'm saying? Just as a kid coming up, are you from Oak Cliff? No. Where are you from? I was born in Ohio. Oh, you ain't even from Texas? No. Hold on. Hold on. You ain't from Texas. Hold on. You were rapping that tape. Hold on. Okay. My mama moved down here when I was two. Oh, now that's a little different. We got to try to answer. So when I go to Ohio, I got to use GPS. When I'm in Texas, I know where I'm going. Oh, yeah. We got a compassion on you. Thank you. So where did you move to when you moved here too? What area? What parts? The solo up until like I was six and then Lancaster for the rest of it. Wow. You one of them L boys. You was with Tom Tom Neum or something. Well, they wasn't a little older than me. I'm just saying, y'all are in the same area. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know about you boys over there. Yeah. So how did you, how was it coming up though in Lancaster? Either just the whole area over there because all of us together. Yeah, it was cool. It wasn't, wasn't nothing bad, but it's the same as any city. There's some good parts and some bad parts. But you want them niggas to try to be hood and move the old clue? No, I ain't never live no clue. Okay. I ain't never tried to be hood a day in my life. You know, niggas try to be hood. I'm going to move these Dallas, you know what I'm saying? Let me move to the project. I want to show these niggas I'm hard. No. So just tell me like, man, so you, when you came up with you on a single parent home. Let's talk to this. Yeah. Yeah. It was just me and my mom, my sister. Okay. That was the usual. So, and you're the oldest? No, my sister. My sister, so you're baby boy? Yeah. Oh, okay. That nigga got everything he want. He was eating out the cereal box without the milk just crabbing his damn hand in it. Nigga, I know you was doing it. I already know it. Listen, could tell him my business. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, could tell him my business. Come on. Yeah, he's just a little cream filling off the top. Nigga put it back. I don't trust you. No, don't trust me if I denied it, I ain't gonna deny it. So where was daddy? In Ohio. I met him a few times, but... Wasn't there for you? No. So you still don't even have a relationship even today? No. He had wrote me when I was in prison, but it was like a bullshit letter. It wasn't nothing like, look at our son. You grown, I fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Can we make something work? It was on some whole other shit. Wow. So you never asked him why he was never there for you? Yeah, but he was on something like, that shit old. You grown now, let that shit go. So I was like, nah. You got kids? I do, I got a daughter. Okay, and you there for her? Every day. Okay. So you try to make up for all the lost time you had with him. Make it up for her? Yeah. I don't ever want her to feel how I feel, because I still feel that to this day. I'm almost 30. Really? Yeah. The boy is still there. Didn't no feel come through? A feel. You know, Shaq say feel is my father. Y'all, you don't know, you too young, you don't know. But Shaq said feel was his father because it's biological didn't bother. Was there somebody that was in your life or a male figure? A male figure. That could kind of give you guidance. You know what I mean? Because that's usually what God do. He always find a way to bridge the gap. You know what I mean? I heard somebody like that. He's still around too. That's dope. That's dope. Show love to the feels. If your daddy was watching this right now, what would you say to him? Get him, baby. How's that asking? Yeah, let's see what this nigga gonna say. Just let it out. Listen, I ain't come here to get emotional. Son of a gun. No, so you telling me? Man. He wouldn't even bother because it's been so long. But the reason why, you say you still have that in you right now. But when you have children, when you have something in you that you haven't really just let go, you need to let it go some way, somehow, whether you're just like talking to him or that he's not here with you, to let it go so it doesn't trickle over. I know that you're there for her, but some way, somehow, it does trickle over into your children because you have that, that you haven't let go. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's the reason why I say, you know, however you got to let it go, write a letter, whatever, just got to let it go. I wrote a song about it. That's good therapy right there. Okay. Like you write a song about everything. You know what I'm talking about? I mean, that's all I got. Nigga, you write a lot of songs. Nigga, you write a song on a nigga, boy. You so wrote a song on your daddy. You don't wrote songs on everybody. Nigga, you wild. Hey. He got to let it out. He got to let it out, man. But so when you think about, you know, coming up, you know, being one of those kids that, you know, mischievous, getting into stuff, because you had to be one of those guys at some point because you ended up locked up. You know what I'm saying? When did you first start saying, you know, I'm going to get myself, I'm going to make a move on this or, man, I might not should do it, but I got to take a chance. I'm trying to come up. When I ended up in prison. Oh, that was the first time? Yeah. I wasn't getting in trouble when I was young. So that was the first time you ever had something like that? Yeah. I got in trouble when I was like 17 because I stole the game from Walmart. But as far as like real trouble. You and my son, bro, y'all are some good. Walmart hates you little niggas. You know what I'm saying? They do. Because my son, he keeps sick of me telling, I tell this all the time, me probably like that, why don't you shut up? I don't steal, don't like that. He was with some boys. That's what his grandma say. But they got all caught. You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh. And that's, I ain't going, I ain't going to do them dirty. I usually drag that nigga down. Yeah. I'm going to let the nigga make it today. Yeah. But at any rate, so you, you, we want to talk about, um, um, this project 58866-177. You know, I want to really go into this project because I never, lately I hadn't heard nothing in Dallas to peak my interest like this one did. This one right here made me say, you know what? Damn. What's going on over there? You know what I'm saying? And I think that was a, that was something that, that, that, um, mess with me. And you was, you was, you wrote a song on there called Letter to a Snitch. Uh-huh. And when you did that, you, uh, you, that doesn't, like I said, that's the first time I heard of you because I, I hadn't tapped into you. Did you do music before, you know, before you went to? Yeah, I did. Okay. And, um, so here's where it gets interesting for me. You wrote a letter to a guy and when you wrote this letter, you, I mean, you wrote this song, when you wrote this, uh, a song, you say, you know, let me, uh, put this out. Did it, was it a letter at first? That's what I mean. No. It was just straight going to be a song when you brought it out. Yeah. Okay. Now let me ask you this. Um, so when you wrote this song, was this, uh, uh, was this, uh, uh, uh, uh, act of fiction? What was this? All fact. Okay. This is a real life situation. Okay. Um, so you go to jail for 24 months, 22 months, 21 total, 21, 19. Would you send us to 24? I was sentenced to 24, but you did 21. Y'all out on good behavior. Well, you only got to do 85. Okay. 85%. Cool. So, but before, let's go before you went. Okay. You and it was a few of y'all involved. It was you and figs and a guy named Cornelius. And so the Cornelius part of it, figs in you. Well, you friends with, who was your friends with first? I was friends with Cornelius first. Okay. How did you guys meet? I was reaching out to him on a Facebook. Why? Because I had a song that I had put out and he had, his profile looked like, he could help you take your music career to the next level. Okay. So I'm reaching out like, bro, fuck with me, fuck with me, fuck with me. And I had made a song. It was called, I want to know. Okay. And I mentioned All Star Magazine and the song. Okay. And so once that song started catching traction, he started fucking with me around that time. And then we just, it went from there. Okay. So, and as y'all, y'all was friends and y'all was hanging out and y'all was, y'all was doing music. How long would you say y'all was doing music and hanging out before y'all met figs? Probably about four months. Okay. So four months into it, you knew figs or he knew figs? He knew figs. So he introduced you to figs. Okay. Now, now when he introduced you to figs, y'all get into some mishap. Not right off the bat. They didn't come off the gun doing all crazy stuff. Because they was real secretive. So him and figs was hanging out together doing stuff that they wouldn't letting you in on it first. Yeah. Because I'm just here to rap. That's all I'm here to do. I'm trying to get on with the music. So why did he introduce you to figs in the first place? Did he ever say why? Well, figs, figs was just around. He was just always around. So I knew, he was an artist as well. So. Okay. That makes sense. Both of y'all artists hanging around Cornelius. Beats. Was he managing figs as well? No. He wasn't managing figs. Okay. Same. Just. He know what he's doing. Was he managing you? Okay. He know what he's doing behind the board. He know what he's doing behind that camera. So. I mean, he good at what he do. He just a piece of shit. Well, I want to get to the part where what makes him a piece of shit because you got to understand you guys was friends. Y'all were hanging out. You reach out to him. I did. You wanted to try to create opportunity for yourself with him. And then y'all get together. He not a piece of shit at first. Y'all hanging out. Y'all, whatever y'all do. Y'all pop bottles or whatever y'all hanging out. Having a party. Did y'all release some music together? You know, while you was dealing with it. Yeah. I put out a few songs. And y'all was hanging out. And where did where did the piece of shit come from? Like what? When did it get to that point? Because he started, you know, you be around somebody and they start doing things and saying things. And you just kind of be looking at him like, what type of shit is that? Give me an example. Example. I mean, it's a dumb example. It's something that made me kind of look at him sideways. It was a chick I was trying to talk to. Nigga pealed you for your bra. I knew it. And he hit the chick in her DM, like, you need to get with a real nigga that can do something for you. You fucking around with these peons. He knew you was messing with him? He knew I was trying to talk to her. But he kept saying it ain't your girl, so it don't count. Like that type of shit was happening. And I'm like, man, I ain't feeling this shit. And it was just like little shit. And it just, every time it was like, man, this nigga might not be as solid as he portrayed to be. Okay. And so end up, you basically, at that point, y'all start, you see, you say, okay, I don't trust this nigga like I thought I did. I'm getting to know this nigga now. I know this nigga got some situations where I ain't even trying to deal with him on that level. So as y'all get there, when does it become a thing where it's an issue where as you guys, you meet Figgs, y'all hanging out, when does it become something where you got about to get yourself in a mix of some trouble? We get into a argument. Me and him, he introduced me to a lick. Figgs was paying for it. Figgs paid him, but he didn't pay me what I was supposed to get. Who didn't pay you, Figgs? Cornelius. Cornelius, he holding the money. Y'all got the nigga, he leading it. Yeah, nigga, put the money. There's paying the people that's in charge. Go ahead. So he don't pay me. So I'm steady asking him like, hey, what's up with the bread? What's up with the bread? Ah, man, Figgs didn't give it to me, man. He hoeing us. He hoeing us. So it's Figgs. Okay, I get it. Figgs, you go through him. He'd have milled me. Yeah, he'd have milled me. I'm sorry, I got that now. So about two weeks go by, I get a phone call. And Figgs, he's just like, hey, man, I'm gonna tell you something and I need your word that you ain't gonna say nothing about it. You're just gonna take it and move on. And he's like, hey, man, I paid the nigga that rack that you were supposed to get. He said, fuck you. He done did too much for you. He ain't giving it to you. I'm gonna pay you though, but keep that between us. You just seem like a good dude. I'm gonna give you that bread. And after that, mixed in with all the other shit that I was feeling, it was just hard for me to walk around and just be cool like I had been being cool. And so we ended up falling out. And I never told him, but we ended up falling out. I mean, he know now because of the other interview idea, but I never told him about it. And we just fell out and never talked to the nigga again. Okay. So you kind of cut ties with him? Yeah. Or did he cut ties with you? A little bit of both. A little bit of both. And so once you cut ties with him, do you ever talk to him again? I ain't talk to him again. From this day to that? Well, you know, far as... He got on that live. That was the first time you've talked to him. So, okay. So you end up, and we're gonna fast forward, you end up, y'all end up getting into some trouble. Mm-hmm. How does he end up being telling anything on you and y'all when talking at the time? Because he was still talking to Figgs. Him and Figgs still rocking. Yeah. So Figgs went to go pick up something he asked Cornelius to drive him. And the Figgs hit him where they got to their destination. Hit him hard. Hit him hard. Okay, but you're not in the mix with him. You're not in the mix with him. I'm not in the mix. I quit fucking around. I wasn't feeling it. And this was a different... Hold on. This was a different situation or a different job from whatever that y'all got paid for at first. Yeah, this was different. It was all the same, but this was completely different. This particular thing they was doing, it didn't have nothing to do with me. Okay. Really? It didn't have nothing to do with me. Okay, so you... And I want to revisit, hold on, the part where you said that he gave Cornelius the money, all the money, and Cornelius didn't pay you, but then Figgs turned around, called you and said, you know what? I'm just going to go ahead and pay you because normally when I hear situations like that, I'm always like, well, you're going to have to go deal with Cornelius. I'm not going to pay you because he's like, that's extra money he paid out of his pocket to give you. Do you know if he ever went back to Cornelius and said, man, I need my money back? No, no. He do. Y'all were getting so much damn paper that y'all didn't really care to go back. Y'all was getting it. I like it. You know what I'm saying? You niggas was really doing... Y'all niggas didn't... Y'all was sitting on top of the world like that album that Yeah, them boys put out eight ball. I think that's them niggas. But anyway, sitting on top of the world. So when y'all was... When you guys was doing this, when they get busted, how do you hear about damn? They looking at... Are they after me too? I didn't know they was after me. They called me up guard. Five months later. Shit. I was done. I wasn't in the mix. Five months later? They got arrested in February. I didn't get picked up till almost June. Was they still locked up or did they get out? No, they got out. And when they got out, they tried to act like they hadn't been locked up or this and that. No. They all... And they gave you a call to say, hey... Well, I hadn't talked to Cornelius. We and him didn't talk. No, I'm talking about Figs. Figs didn't call you. Yeah, Figs called me. That's how I found out. Well, Figs said... They on ITL. No, Figs was fucked up, man. He was fucked up. He was paranoid. Like, got me. But he was just like, man, I need to meet you. Meet me at the gym. I'm in bed. I meet him at the gym. No, we didn't... He want to go to the sauna. Then he want to go to the hot tub. Was he wearing a wire? No. I'm just saying. But that was his concern. That's why he probably went to the hot tub. That was his concern. We were in the damn wire. This sound like a movie. Because he was fucked up. Because he found out Cornelius told. How did he find out that Cornelius told? Because it was in his paperwork. In his paperwork. In his indictment? In his indictment. His name was in it. Did you see it? Or are you just talking? No, I seen it. It was in mine when I ended up getting arrested. And it says Cornelius' name. Yeah. On there. It says that he told it. He told it. Damn. And you was like, dang, you know. You couldn't believe it. Well, you should have knew that. He didn't like you anyway. He probably just told you and it was a bonus. You know what I'm talking about? Get that nigga. You got the paperwork with you today? I do. Yeah. Where is this? Let me see it. You want to see it? Yeah, pull it out. Yeah. Yeah, let's see this paper. I want you to let me see this. I want to see Cornelius' name on your indictment. And is it? I mean. No, the only reason why I was asking because I saw clips of when Skull was doing. Yeah, Chris Skull. And I know that you showed him being in the interrogation room. But maybe I just didn't see that part where you showed the paperwork. So I wasn't sure if you even showed the paperwork on Skull. I didn't. Because I tried, but it wouldn't show up on the camera. Oh, OK. Swipe that way. OK. Be careful though. We might see something. We might see something. Don't burn the nigga up, my nigga. My location. I'm looking for the boy name. How long you been rapping? Uh-uh, forever. But as far as like actually taking it serious. Taking it serious. Since like 2017. 2017. What made you get into it? I just always wanted music. Seriously? I just... No, I felt like I had something to say. Because a lot of people would be like, somebody came to me and be like, man, you hard, you hard. You need to this, this, this. It wasn't nothing like that. No. It just always been done. Real name. Roger Turknick. Roger Turknick. You see it? Yeah, I see it. Turknick was giving it. And you should text him just that part, that clip so he can put it up whenever we do the interview. Whenever we... Yeah. I'll put it up. I got you. It'll pop on the screen. I got you. You sure about this? It's... You want to see it? Yeah. Roger Turknick. That's his name. And so he seems to think that he didn't have anything to do with you guys' case. He says that because he never said O'Shea St. John when he was in the interrogation room. Okay. So I killed all that on my last interview. Let's take your name. Let's take you saying my name out of the equation. When you sat down in that interrogation room, they asked you questions. You answered those questions. You had credit cards and cell phones on you. You tell them information. One of the charges that they told him he was facing was ultimately one of the charge I ended up getting. He didn't say O'Shea St. John, but he told what we were doing. He pointed them in directions that they weren't looking in. That's why they didn't come get me until five months later because they had to go do research. Now there was somebody else that was telling, but he wasn't a friend. He wasn't close to us. Who was the other person that was telling? I'm not going to say his name because I really believe he was a federal informant. But it is in the paperwork. I'm just not going to say it yet. Okay. So if he was a federal informant, and yes, he wasn't a friend, but I mean he would still have all the information that O'Shea St. John had as well to be able to tell. No, because he wasn't apart. Cornelius was actually in the mix with us. He didn't know everything. No, he just played his role. Cornelius was actually doing shit with us and then tried to act like he wasn't. What about defamation of character when he says like he's going to sue you? He can't. Because if you get on Google and you go to NBC, everything that I'm saying is the same thing NBC said. It's public records. It's public records. So defamation is when you line. I ain't lying. You read that paperwork right there. I ain't lying. Yeah, I see his name on it. You go to Google and say the same thing. You go to Google, type in his first and last name and say NBC News article. You're going to see it say he waived his Miranda rights. What do you mean when you wave your Miranda rights? Yeah. If I'm lying, is NBC lying too? Is CBS News lying? So what made you put his, because we never seen this before. What made you, because were you trying to promo the 5866, 588661-177 project? Or was it something that really used like I got to tell people about this? I got to tell people. Because just think about how many people didn't fuck with him or maybe even did some shit. They had no business doing with them and didn't know. Think about all the people who possibly wanted to do some business with them. They need to know. People need to know that shit. Why haven't you put out the whole two hour interrogation? That's a good question. You see what I'm saying? If it's something there and you say that this guy ratted you out. Why haven't you dropped it? Honestly, I don't know. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? Because if he done it and you saying that this, what if this tape that you putting out don't have the incriminating information that you're saying that he done? I'm not worried about that because it do. But I give what you're saying. You understand what I'm saying? The people, we see, because I do clips. So I know about clips. I can take a portion of this video right here and I can clip it just right. You want it back? No. You see what I'm saying? And bam, you know, give you a thought that your mind, you will go there and and thought, when will you take and drop this whole two hour interrogation so we can understand what you really got? Because we don't know what you really got. And I think that's the part. That might be the reason why I have it because I want it. I want him to be a little nervous because a part of me feel like he don't think I got it. And that's why he being so loose at the mouth right now. So is it something that you only you have up to do he do he have it? No, he don't got it. Because if he had it, he wouldn't be like he made a comment that said, oh, you see, he didn't put the rest of it out. If he seen what was in that video for himself, he wouldn't be saying shit like that. He don't want that video to come out. So the same way how you obtain it. Tell me he can't obtain the same way. No, because he didn't get charged. He didn't get indicted. That was in my discovery. He don't. He didn't have a case so he can't get no discovery. So Figuero Figuero got his discovery. He got the same thing I got. Did you. This was a part of your paperwork party when you got down there to the fields. They have a paperwork party. Had to see what you done when you got there. Make sure you didn't do nothing crazy that they didn't have to, you know, probably pressure to you. You know what I'm saying? So when you think about what you're a legend that he done to you. What you're saying that he done. Do you think you and him could ever recover from this? No. And was this the first time you've been to prison? Yeah. How did the people turn it back on you? Who was the people? Like people. I didn't tell nobody. Like you was going to be there for you. Did anybody, did you lose the old lady or something? No. Okay. Just ask. Oh, everybody held you down. You know, run DMCC hard time spreading just like the flu. You know what I'm talking about? You're doing time. You know what I'm saying? You know, when you're doing time, you know, niggas would turn their back and walk off. You know what I'm saying? So if you've done time and you say you didn't tell anybody. That's out of my family and my friends. They stay down. They held you down. Yeah. That's dope. That's a, hey boy, that's something to be proud of. Because it's a bunch of stories out there. You've seen some of the people that didn't get held down. Every day. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Because you're married, right? You're engaged? Yeah. So what did your fiance, when you got in trouble and you know, you went to her and told her all the stuff that was going on, that they were looking for you and all of that. What did she have to say about the whole situation? I got in trouble before I met her. Oh, okay. So. I had already been arrested. I was out on a PR bond. And you told her. And that's when you met her. I told her on our second date that I was fighting some situations. Legal issues. Yeah. Why did you get 22 months in figs? You got 47 months. 24. 24 and 40. Yeah. 47 and 24. You see what I'm saying? If you was the cause. We trying to figure this out. Like you was the, I never been in trouble. Oh, he had. He had. I don't, I don't know what his record is, but I know what he was accused of was greater than what I was accused of as well. They accused him of $374,000 worth of fraud. They only accused me of like 19. So it was just a big difference. And his charge is different than mine as well. Okay. Okay. And when you think about just have you contact rope figs or anything? Yeah, I'll talk to him on the phone. Okay. I'll talk to him. Yeah. That's still your partner. Yeah. Put my nannies bucks. Damn. You don't want the nigga to eatin' everything down now. That's how you support somebody when they, when they go up? I know, I know. Hell much as I done took my money and put on these niggas books. She just talking experience, nigga. To be honest, no, I haven't. No. You need to put something on that nigga books, dog. You out here eating good. Look at you. You're healthy. So what is these price up here for a man in this water? What you got going on? Cause that's what he was sipping on in the interrogation room. He was drinking a sprite in the water. I still want to see this two hour long tape. You need to drop that tape. You need to let me know. Just send that thing to me. I ain't gonna drop it. Yeah. So that's what he, that, and what they drunk a lot of them. No, he just drunk one. And when he drunk it, did he seem like he was comfortable? Cause I heard a part in that. What did they say in that video? Uh, you know, what if I give you this, what you going to give me? What you going to do for me? And you stopped it like right at the end of that part. I'm like, you're trying to build up that suspense. Like, why would you stop it like right there? You didn't let them know. We want to know what you got, man. We really do. I'm watching because it don't mean if you don't drop what you say you got, we don't know what you got. We just know what you're saying. So let me ask you a question. Is that the reason why you have that on your shirt? Because of what he said? Yeah. What you going to do for me? What you going to do for me? Yeah. What you going to do for me? Wow. I didn't see that part. Damn. Ain't that a rat? That's a piece of cheese. Damn piece of cheese. Yeah. Yeah. Man, don't you know, let me ask you this. Do you not know that what you're saying about this guy? It could cause him to be in situations because I think about, you know, I really think about Nipsey Hussle and Eric Holder and him coming back and doing whatever he done because they got in, you know, he called him a snitch or whatever. And I keep thinking about that. I mean, this thing, it's already serious when you make allegations and you guys out here like that. Is there any way we can diffuse it or make it to where, you know what I mean? Well, you got to understand with me, I ain't no gangster. I ain't no street nigga. I ain't never been one. I ain't never tried to pretend to be one. Now you put your hands on me. I'm a man. So I'm going to defend myself. I'm not on that. But if that's what he on and that's what he come with, I made a decision to put all this shit out. So I got to be prepared to come take whatever come with it. But it's not a case of what you on or what he's on. That word is so serious where other people can take that on top of their head because they don't like that. They could, but that ain't got nothing to do with me. He knew what he did. Shit, we all had to go do time. Even the other man that snitch went to jail. Everybody, everybody went to jail except him. This is his lid. This is his lid. He got to take it. We had to take ours. I took mine. Figs took his. So you said the other guy who snitched went to did time. So if you're calling this guy snitch, how comes he didn't do time? Oh, Cornish. I know. That's the million dollar question. You got to ask the DA and Fort Worth that question. Do you still think that he's working with? You know, cause once you start informing, you know, I had a thought about that, but I felt like his name wouldn't have been so public. Like I feel like his name wouldn't have been in that news article if he was working. I thought that they keep them secret. That's what I thought. But I don't know. It's a possibility. Yeah. Yeah, cause I heard him. He's very adamant to say that his name was not on your paperwork. You just read the paperwork. If your name wasn't in my paperwork, why was it in my why was your interrogation video in my discovery? Yeah. Wow. This is something man. You know, I could say I don't, I don't know how to, I usually know how to bridge the gap pretty good. I usually try to bring people together. That's what I think I'm doing anyway. But this year is a serious situation, a serious allegation that you're proposing and that you're showing proof of your proof. He has his proof. He would say, I see them on Crisco. He's pleading this case. You know what I mean? And he seems to think it's something other than, but you're saying what you're saying, he got his legal team. They're trying to sue you for defamation of character. They're legit, you know, going to come at you about what you're saying about his character. What are you going to do to be ready for that? You just, are you going to lure you up, or are you just going to wait and see you have a chip fall? You think it's cap? Most definitely. Because I ain't lying. Wow. Okay. It's not like I'm just dry as seeing some shit that can't be backed up. Wow. Yeah. Because if that's the case, you need to sue NBC too. I've seen you on Crisco. I know I've seen Rainwater come into the situation. Was his name on the paperwork as well, or did you see his name anywhere? It was in this paperwork I just showed you. Yeah, I didn't see. On that page. I didn't see it on that page. Oh, well, you're supposed to swipe. Yeah. You're saying his name is in there too. So everybody being mentioned. I'm just like, everybody. Like, it's a whole, everybody, like the whole thing. I mean, were you running with him as well or no? You didn't even know him at the time when this happened. You didn't like, damn, what are you doing in here? Did you know who it was when you read it? You're like, damn, did you tell him? Like your name on the paperwork? I don't know him. You don't know it. Okay, cool. I'm just saying, because y'all came on the live, you know, y'all, was you on that when Skow did that? Yeah, but I ended up getting out. I got off because I told him I wasn't going to do all the live wrestling with somebody who wouldn't talk like that if they was in front of me. I got off. Okay. Yeah. And that's why I asked that question because of the fact of all y'all was kind of, you know, I didn't know. I got off. I'm not interested in it right there. Yeah. You don't want to live wrestling with him like that. If you want to see me, come see me. Pretty much. Yeah. So what do you do? Let's talk about this album a little bit. How are you going to market and promote it the same way you've been doing it? Yeah, same way. What do you expect out of it? I mean, because it could go. It's just my story. You know, it's a lot of people who, who didn't went through the system, they got family that went through the system. And it's a lot of stuff that people don't really talk about that went through it or know somebody that's going through it. So I just spoke on certain things like I'll talk about nice when I cry in the book. You know what I'm saying? I went deep like that because it's just, it's just a relatable album. That's all. How many songs on this? 10. 10 songs? Yeah. It's in 33 seconds. No. Yeah. I know how y'all don't need new music. I'm used to five-minute songs. We rock all night. Well, I got one on it. That's about six minutes. I made that just for you. Thank you. So is it, is it out of the project? The whole time. Yeah, it dropped on 17. Cool, man. So how's it doing? It's doing good. Doing good? It's doing good. Is it doing the way you would expect it to be doing? What would you want it to do? How are you going to? Because it's only been four days. Okay. You can't really just, I'm not Drake. You know what I'm saying? I'm still local. So I can't expect just 100,000 streams first week. But any stream I'm grateful for because you don't got to listen. I got it. I got it. What about top three artists of all time did or live? Do you listen to other people? Because you so damn serious. Like you looking at a nigga like you just. Well, nah, nah. Nigga, you are, you got to tend to got you conditioned. My nigga, you staring at me like you got something. It's just out of contact, man. I ain't told nothing on your nigga. Don't run up on me nigga. I ain't in it. No. No, but tell me top three artists of all time did or live. Nigga, you don't like nobody? That's tough. That's tough. Nigga, give me, y'all niggas truth me out. That's tough, man. Okay. Nigga, I don't say it, nigga. Cole. Cole. Say the niggas a whole name. Y'all niggas two flags. Cole. You don't say you know the niggas. I'm about to. Jacob. Jacob, who else number two? I'm gonna say Lil Wayne. Yes, a bunch of Lil Wayne's a lot of folks like Lil Wayne. Who else? I'm gonna say Biggie. Biggie. Yeah. That didn't throw me off a little bit. Biggie was a lyricist, man. Biggie was a lyricist, bro. Yeah, he was one of the dope ones. I like lyrics. Now, let me see you with your top three again. Say them again. J Cole. Lil Wayne. And Biggie. Nigga, you ain't from Texas. You from Ohio for real, nigga. I just thought about that, nigga. You ain't saying now nigga from Texas, nigga. You niggas are some real life haters, man. You saying top three. Niggas ain't nobody. So you say nobody from Texas. That's crazy, man. Get him out of here. Get that boy out of here. I didn't say he was hot to you. I didn't say you didn't say hot. You said top three. And then just J Cole. Nigga, that nigga fail playing basketball, nigga. Now what, nigga? Now what? Listen. Hey. Hard, nigga. I love it, man. Nah, he done the date though. I ain't gonna lie. That nigga is lyricist as hell. Yeah, that nigga, he had that middle brother or something like that. Middle child or something like that. That's your boy. You know the name of it. Come on, man. No, I don't know the nigga name of it. So you like, so who would you like to work with? You know what I'm saying? Shit. If you could, yeah. Which damn sure won't be nobody from Texas, so go ahead. I don't do that. Yeah, nigga, yeah. You don't want to work with none of us, so, you know, damn. I'd like to work with Big Sean. Look, there you go. He headed up north again. This nigga is wild. This nigga headed up to Ohio as fast as he can. Next question. Nah, who else? Big Sean, who else? Cole, of course. Kendrick, baby. Listen, what you want me to say? She from Jamaica. You can work with Beanie, man, nigga. Hell, let's do some around this old... Yeah, nigga, let's go now to the national, nigga. I'm open. I'm open. I'm open, man. You don't want to work with Yellow Beesie? I'll work with Beesie. Oh, nigga, you trip, my nigga. I'm mad to say it right now. I'm open, man. Trap? Oh, shit. Damn. You know what I'm saying? Girl, I'm Beesie, right? It's on anybody. I'm open. You don't give a damn about us. That's what Michael Jackson said. I don't really say that they don't give a damn about us. Come on, don't do me like that, man. You don't give a damn about us. Don't do me like that, man. No, so when you were sitting down during that time, you didn't think about nobody in Texas did you work with? Man, don't try to talk about it, man. She wasn't thinking about no music. Did you write the music while you were gone? I tried, but I couldn't. You couldn't? Why? I needed a beat. It's hard for me to write without a beat. Yeah, nigga, you know what it is. You don't know how to do no beats. Nah, I'll write to the beat though, man. Yeah, we can do that. But as far as writing music to come home and record... Oh, so you get a pen, nigga. Majority people that have been on our platform that want to go away, they always write like a whole catalog. Yeah, I don't know how to do that. You get a pen and you... Them niggas cold blood. You go to work. You seen niggas doing that, didn't you? You seen it, didn't you? They getting busy. That's all right here. That's the one right here. Niggas that cold, are you like, damn, I gotta get him. For forever. Yeah. When it's in you, you got to get it out, man. So you was in that hole really thinking about the niggas that did you wrong, so you could write this letter, nigga. Nah, nah, nah, I was fucked up. That shit was rough. I wasn't that up. Because you ain't really know a penitentiary dude like that. Yeah, so... So when you seen a nigga eating a damn spread, you like, damn, I gotta ride out like this. Yeah, it was rough. We had boiling water. Yeah, nigga, you said that in an old drink. What was the roughest time that you had while you were in there? My roughest time? Yeah. What was that when that fucking ice storm hit and fucked up Texas? Was that February? February. Okay. The water was off for two weeks. They brought in some porta-potties. Aw, man. Oh, it was fucked up. That was my roughest time. Niggas, you know what, man? You was a man, nigga. You ain't, you ain't been spoiled. That's a baby boy. He was coming at it now. Hey, you want me to be... You want me to be true? You were really in that old... I was the only one. It was niggas in there that had been doing Thompson. I was a kid. They was in there fucked up. What about when COVID hit? You said I'm gonna die on this whole all day. Aw, man, COVID hit. They stopped feeding us hot meals. They gave us one hot meal a day, but that wasn't shit compared to that water, man. Y'all get no Johnny sack. Yeah, that's all they was giving us. They was giving us two Johnny's in a hot. Man, you know, in the state of Texas, all these other... The feds, what was you at? You wasn't even... Was you at Justin Texas? You was in Segalville? I was in Big Spring. Oh, you were in Big Spring? West Texas. And one of your niggas coming in like, damn, my niggas here, too. Damn. No, it wasn't a lot of blacks. It was mostly Mexicans. It was a few blacks. Niggas had them shanks in there for a nigga. No, I mean... Yeah, they had them niggas. Them niggas dream about shanks. They just all night long. Niggas had them shanks in that old. No, it wasn't just going down like that. Oh, okay. Yeah, well, you don't know. You might have changed from the last time. Yeah, they shake that damn dorm down to some shanks falling everywhere. Niggas, you nervous as hell. Who in the hell in there trying to kill somebody? No, that fed though... How's the feds? Is it something to where you don't never want to go back? Listen. The judge could have been like, say, fam, I'm giving you 24 months. He could have came back five minutes later and been like, you know what? I'm going to cut you a break. That would have been enough for me. You just wanted a little bit of break. I would have never... You wouldn't have... If they said you don't do nothing else, you got around to coming back. You like, nigga, I'm good. I'm going to church. Yeah, that was it. That was enough. I don't see how things keep going back. So you don't pan on being recidivistic, huh? I don't even want a traffic ticket. Man, it's tough, man. So when this album... I mean, are you performing it anywhere? Are you looking to do some shows? How are you going to turn this thing up, man? And to be honest with you, it's a song that everybody's talking about right now. Are you capitalizing on that? Are you performing it? Are you trying to figure that out? What are we doing? Yeah, I'm working on it. I'm trying to set up a show right now. Don't let your moment just get lost, bro, because you got a movement going right now with this. I got you. So that's important, right? Mm-hmm. But you know, a lot of it is new to me. So I got people like Dubb... Okay. And Lodeezy, they talk to me. You know? Yeah. I'm kind of just taking in whatever I can take in, learn from it, use what I feel like, how she use. Well, I hope, like I said, I really... I hope things can... I hope just they don't lead to nobody, you know, nothing else going on. Well, I'm going to be honest. I'm not on that. You know? I'm not saying he's not... I'm not saying he's not... For somebody else might be on it. I'm just saying we don't want to see no black men die, you know what I'm saying? Hopefully nothing else... We can get past this. You got a shirt on with a damn rat on it with some cheese on it. It don't seem like it's slowing down. It could have been... I could have put his face on it. Put his face on it. This ain't shit. Damn, maybe you'll put the nigga face on it. I'll put his interrogation video in my video. I'll go there, but don't make it seem like this shirt just that bad. It can get worse. Damn! Boy, I tell you, hey man, it's a new wave. So when you say you're going to drop the... It's a new wave, man. I'm not lying. It's some new wave. So when you say you're going to drop the two-hour video. Yeah, when you drop it. Put a date on it. Put a date on it. I can't put a date on it. See how you do it, nigga? We don't know what you got in that two-hour. I'm bluffing. I'm bluffing. Yeah, you bluffing. Yeah, you good. You gotta bluff, yeah? I want to see the two-hour tape. So let me see it. You can keep it. I'll watch it with you. I want to see if what you got is substantial evidence. And then I'll be like, yeah, damn, that's crazy. My paperwork ain't enough? Now I want to see that video. I know it. Everybody wants to see that video. I know it. Am I right? I want to see what that two-hour... Because you cut that whole thing. You cut it just right. But we want to know what was on that video. You going to know? You going to know? You going to drop it? I will. One day. When the time is right. When I feel like the time is right, I'm going to drop it. Damn. Well, anything that would leave anything out? No. You sure? Mm-hmm. How can people get a hold of you if they're trying to follow you, follow your music, follow your movement? On Instagram, it's official O'Shea. The official is spelled with an O. I mean a zero. And Facebook is just O'Shea St. John. Wow. Man. One thing I can say is, man, the song... Who produced that song? You don't know. You got it off YouTube. I didn't get it off YouTube. I got it from... Damn beat off of YouTube. I got it from SoundClean. You're going to get sued for that damn beat. No, I bought the beat. Okay. I bought the beat. I bought it. So you did. You got it off SoundCloud? Yeah. No, not SoundCloud. SoundClean. SoundClean. Okay. And when you... Who do you like working with the most, like, when you're producing them? When you're doing your album? Who do you like to rock with? I'm still... Trying to figure it out? Yeah. Because it's my first album. I've been making music, but I always bounced around. So now I got a good studio home. I got a good engineer. Now I'm just trying to piece together my team. Yeah. So... Your team is important. Man. So, man, hey, man. Thank you for coming on the show, Shay. I know you got this song out here. And it's really different for me. It's almost... It's distasteful when it comes down to people's credibility. You know what I'm saying? But it is entertainment because it's rap. People love mess. And what you done dropped is a hell of a mess. I'm being real because it's got a lot of people involved and people talking and niggas moving here and niggas are, I don't trust that nigga. I can't be with that nigga. All that nigga tripping. That nigga gonna do it. He gonna flip, blah, blah. At the end of the day, that's a lot, man. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, I wish you guys the best, man. So, I mean, is every song on there about somebody? Because it seemed like you talked about your daddy. You talked about... I didn't talk about my daddy on that album. I just made a song about him a long time ago. Okay. So who you talk about on that damn album? Me more than anybody. The album is just about what led up to prison, life during prison, and life after. What other song would you like to say is the next one that would... That's just... Yeah, nigga. Come on with it. What's the next song that's big? Let's be real. That I was talking about. Who are these talking about? Who is that all with that next song? The one that you would say the next one that you gonna push after this one? I'm gonna say Wreck Yard Flow. Oh, you was out there. You ain't doing nothing in the Wreck Yard. What is this song about? Say it, man. You just told me you didn't really... You couldn't write with you to focus on the thing. What was going on with that Wreck Yard? That's how I was working out. You know what I'm saying? I was doing a little something. Okay. Playing a little chess out there. You know. Okay, that... I'm just... You got... You probably be dropping them bars out there, nigga. They wanna hear it. You ain't even heard it. No, I'm gonna listen to it. I wanna hear that song Wreck Yard Flow. What's my next one? Give me a pen, babe. Let me see if it's a nigga line. No, he got a pen over there. You got a pen. Yeah, I know you got a pen or what you be keeping all the papers and stuff. You got a pen. You got pad, paper and everything. Okay, Wreck Yard Flow. What's that other one? I'm gonna say Barrett. Barrett. What that about? That's just about like the comeback. Coming home. Just talking that shit. Man, Barrett. Okay, I'm gonna go listening to them and getting buying them bars and see what you got going. You definitely got, like I said, the only one I heard is that one letter to a snitch. That thing flowing around city, man. And did you think it would do it like that? You did? Yeah. That's good, man. Well, hey, man, thank you for coming on the show, man. We love you. I appreciate you. Say, nigga, don't be so serious with the mic, nigga. I'm gonna see you in the next song. You got a song cause I'm happy or anything, nigga. Hop along if you feel. Happy that you out. Did you do a first day out? No. Yeah, man. You both did a first day out. Shit, I was in the half way house. You still can do it. A year later? Yeah, nigga. Let's see what you was like. You remember what was going on that first day? You didn't know that they came out with a... What happened in a two year span? COVID shots, nigga. They were doing COVID shots. I said, hey, I couldn't snigger. You can talk about that. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. You know, am I right? COVID shots and CVS, nigga. Yeah, different things changed. Niggas ain't know they were doing COVID shots at the CVS. You know what I'm talking about? No, man, but thank you for coming on the show, man. Man, I appreciate you. Man, hey, man, if you ever want to come back, you got a new project popping. Let me know, man. Tap in. You know already the routine, man. You know what I'm saying? I wish you, you know, my success on your endeavors, bro. I appreciate it. Check it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 where the bosses talk. And we are.