 Mae'n gwneud o ddwyng am y golfer, ond mae'n un o'ch ei bod yn ddysgu'r ddau, mae'n ddysgu'r ddysgu'r ddysgu'r ddysgu'r ddau, mae'n gweithio'r ddysgu'r ddysgu'r o ar ddim yn ei wneud o'r ddysgu'r ddysgu yw'r awdd. Rwy'n meddwl cyhoedd gan 4 golffi, mewn gwirionedd yn 5 golffos, 5 handi-caps, all yn diogel ryw, yn gwneud, yn gwneud i'r ddysgu'r ddysgu'r ddysgu yn gweithio'r ddysgu. Dw i fod yn oed wrth fy ngryfant. Felly maen nhw'n fawr i gynhyrchu. Bwyd oedd o'r ddych chi'n ddysgu, ond rwy'n ddau bod yn cael ei gydrach. Ond yna'r wych yn gallu i ddechrau. Mae'r idea o ddweud yr hyn yn oed mae'n gweithio'r ddechrau o lleol o'r gyfnodau a'r ddechrau. Yna'r ddweud o rwy'n chi'n golygu. Felly rwy'n gweithio. Felly ydych chi'n gweithio. Fy wnes i gydwch. Let's start with Lewis Johnson, the PG professional. He's using P790 irons and currently, and he's going to give us his opinion of these G410 irons. So the look of the club really like how it sat behind the ball. The top line I thought was great and really liked it. Shelf appeal, I think the black and the red is an attractive looking club, there's no doubt about it. It's really like that and I think at a dress, going back to a dress, I think they definitely would use the offset which I really like. Being a slightly better player and I think that's a really appealing for me. So the feel of the club, a lot better than I thought. I think sort of off centre hits where as I'd expect from a cavity back club performed pretty good and I think on centre hits I think sort of for me it didn't really lose too much. Obviously not as good feel as I'm going to get from a more sort of players club but it's what you expect. But the contrast in performance was really good across the board. So overall the performance of the club, actually really happy I think going into the tests like this, my P790s are what I like, I've been fitted for them, something like this. It's not something I'd go for, it's sort of a bigger looking club, a more forgiving game improvement iron but in terms of performance I thought it was fantastic. Peak height, a lot higher than my own and didn't sacrifice any distance so got a really consistent loan from it as well which I've struggled with with cavity back clubs before whenever I've tried them. So in terms of consistency of performance I was really happy with it. I thought it was a great performer and a lot better than I thought it was going to be for someone of my ability. So really good. Right so an interesting start there from Lewis and quite a positive response that I wasn't quite expecting to be honest with you. And again I think he summarised it quite well there and great ball striking as well from Lewis. Anyway that's Lewis Dunn. Let's move back into, we've got a new kid on the block, Jay Byrne. He really gets involved with the channel, always involved in the comments and the great supporter and it's great to have him involved today. He's a 13 handicapper. He's a big lad and he hits the ball an absolute mile which you're going to find out very shortly. He's using currently AP2 irons when you see the numbers, slightly weaker lofted iron that he picked it up against but is his opinion on a G410 irons. For the looks of the club from a shelf appeal perspective, really nice looking club. You can tell there's a bit of weight behind it for that bit of help but when you lie the club down behind the ball you don't really notice that. The club sits really well. There's actually a slight chamfer to the back of the top leading edge which makes it appear slightly thinner, which is quite a nice feature. As you look down at the ball as well the centre of the club has got like a mat fin which offsets it against the setting which actually gives the appearance of a slightly smaller head which is really nice to the eye. I like that. So the way the ball feels when you hit it out the middle feels really nice, really solid sound and get really good feedback through it. Slightly off centre hits. You do get a little bit of noise, a bit more feedback that you've actually hit it like off centre but to be honest I play forged irons and mine give a very similar sort of feel when I hit them so I'm really happy with the way it feels when I hit the ball. I think for such a premium looking club and good performing club it's really good value. It's actually probably the lower end of what the major manufacturers are coming out out now so I'd be quite happy with that price. So I had the club performed, really happy with it. Good decent ball fly. I was getting good distances out of it. Even when I hit ones that were slightly low on the face and got low spin out of they still get a relatively good distance. Very similar numbers and in comparison to mine they flew slightly further and a little bit higher but there is a slight difference in the loft with mine but nothing massively different in comparison so I think it's a really, really good performing club. I've been quite a positive star to be fair and let's see if that continues now as we move over to Andy Roper been on the channel a few times nine handicap golfer again using P790 irons from TaylorMade let's see what Andy thinks of these but also make sure you hang on at the end of the video cos there's a few bloopers from Andy's summary of this club test and do not miss that bit either but here's Andy's thoughts on the Ping G410 irons. I'm not a fan of them at all I've never really liked Ping Downs anyway but they're too chunky too chunky from all angles really the bottom of them is much too wide for what I'd like from a sole I don't know whether it's a case of golf snobbery or once you reach a point with your golf ability whether you move up as to what you expect out of a golf club but from what I'm currently playing at the moment the P790 is the TaylorMade to that, it's like night and day it's hard to be positive about it I'm not a fan of the top line the offset the sole plate on it not even the finish just not a fan of it at all that's the main thing that stands out to me there's literally no feedback from the club at all it's like hitting a nail into a piece of wood it doesn't sound great even when you hit one right out of the screws there's no sort of feedback from it there's no sort of buttery crisp feel you get off a different line certainly off these TaylorMades I've got when you hit a good one the feedbacks there through the noise, you feel it right through the club coming back into you that you've hit one right out of the middle whereas with this low, high it was just totally devoid of any sort of feedback which surprises me because with this type of club I would expect to get a feeling that the ball is really firing off the face and with that the noise almost like it's trying to help the ball into the air a really loud sound whereas this is quite dull solid and boring really I suppose at 105 it's kind of a competitive market it's probably priced right for where they're trying to market their aiming at personally I think there's probably better clubs out there for that price bracket and certainly if you're somebody who feels reasonably competent in getting the ball in the air doesn't need a great deal of assistance with that then I'd probably stretch and go for something around the 130-140 a club marker rather than going 105 with these for me the positives with it really are considering the type of club that it is the spin number was pretty decent for it so I'd be quite happy going in at a green from sort of 150-160 confident that it would probably hold whereas with this type of club I would imagine ordinarily it would come in quite low and hard not a great spin rate and probably bounce on through so that's the positive with it in terms of comparison to my own club it didn't really see a massive amount of gains distance wise I think consistency I was probably decent across the board with both of them in terms of line I'm not a particularly long hitter of the golf ball by any stretch of the imagination so for me I get my advantages in consistency so for me to score well I just keep myself in play plodder on the course I don't necessarily need distance to be fair so with the club that I've currently got which is the 790 I know if I'm on a certain distance and I hit that reasonably well I'm going to get it on the button and on the green and I'll be in play whereas with this I wouldn't necessarily be as confident that I'd necessarily do it every single time just because of the disparity of sort of feel across the face I'm getting from it and it's jumping from you know the best strike being let's say for example 150 to the worst strike being 140 I know that obviously falls down to me but as a game improvement club I'd expect that to be a lot tighter whereas it is with this with the 790 because although I play off 9 I'm quite capable of playing golf to a level of 28 you know some days it just doesn't work and I'd want a little bit more from that club to help me on those off days which I feel I get on the tailor made and I don't with this Opinions slightly different there from Andy and a little less positive I suppose you'd say it's next up we move to Brian Treadwell Brian again 11 Andy Capgolfa using a forged Mizuno MP-18 iron we're going to pitch up your notes in the numbers he's using 6 iron as opposed to 7 iron because it's direct comparison in terms of loft so be interested in this one a current user of a forged iron used to cast club from ping what's Brian going to think I think it looks very bulky at address behind the ball I think as a club it's a decent looking club but it has a very large presence at address I didn't think there was much feedback if any from the ping G410 I was hitting shots and you'd have an idea as to whether they were good but there wasn't very much feedback in comparison to the Mizuno MP-18 SC which I play with I feel there is much more feedback and a much better feel with the club it also seems much of a best balance than the ping the ping felt quite heavy throughout the swing I don't know how that compares to Brian's in the market if it's around the same price as the others then I think fair play to ping if they're drifting upwards with it then I would really wonder about the value that you're getting out of this as opposed to other clubs that are within that range the 6 iron in the Mizuno club has a 30 degree loft which equates to the ping G410 so that's what I hit I have to say I much prefer the Mizuno in every single respect I have a better feel I felt it was a better strike through the ball in the sense that I am able to shape it there was much more of a feel about that to it so yeah significant preference for me probably has it expected from Brian quite a bit different in terms of feel from a forge club into these big big change there bore out in his comments I think last but not least he's currently using what you'd call a game improvement iron he's using a Callaway XR Ions 30 degrees 7 iron 30 degrees 7 iron a ping G410 it's a straight up head to head in terms of his numbers to compare but let's see what his opinion was of these irons from me from address looking down at the club the new ping irons they're a lot thinner than we could in club the XRs Callaway XRs less offset and the Callaway XR it looks as if it's got a little bit more meat behind the club which gives me more confidence when I'm looking down before the strike the new ping iron it wasn't much different in the feel of the club when I'm striking it a bad shot I was getting a fairly straight and the dispersion was good but when you look at the numbers I can't see much difference in the strike other than the XR maybe due to it being a bit more meaty felt a better shot I don't think it's overly priced for a club so if the numbers fitted for me then I would buy it it's a considerable difference and I wouldn't change I wouldn't change the Callaway XR for this ping iron and again look at the numbers which will be posted and that will give you the reasons for I'm getting a better strike I just wouldn't change so that's it lots of opinions lots of variables as well and as you'd expect I think for me to do a summary and you can draw your own conclusions but for me there was interesting elements throughout the day that I was watching and observing one interesting thing for me was that strike is still king and basically the people that hit the ball out the middle more consistently and if you take Lewis as being that prime example who struck the ball really really well actually probably approved the feel of the club but he tended to find a sense of it and what I'd expect from a game improvement iron is a little bit more of similar feel for off centre hits I think for the likes of myself and other players that tested this that perhaps weren't fine in the middle their opinions on the kind of feel and sound were quite negative I think that definitely with the size and bulk of the club head we've seen higher launch angle so the lower place CG certainly helps in terms of launch so anybody who's struggling with that then this kind of club without doubt helps you get that ball launching and get a bit better ball flight I think one again major positive was the spin number everybody produced relatively decent spin numbers and again from this kind of iron it's something that can really drop off and fall off the charts but again most people achieved something that was comparable with what they were already using in terms of spin that was a real positive again overall distances I think we just seen what you'd expect to see from a 30 degree iron there was nothing that was flying out there in terms of distance and again comparing like for like, loft for loft between the clubs they were currently using nothing really that was seen there I think the one major positive for me throughout everybody that played the irons and tried the irons was dispersion in terms of left to right dispersion it was noticeably it was straight it certainly seems to help across a cross section of players five players there and a ball fairly straight and in a good little compact area that we'd be happy with I think and I found that again out there on the course that dispersion and performance was overall good like I said my issue was all about sound and feel but that varies from person to person golfer to golfer so I think a real good test I certainly enjoyed it I enjoyed observing it I enjoyed the differences in the opinions and I hope you did too plenty more of this to come so I'll have maybe a bit of a league table at the end of 2019 in terms of irons and drivers and whatever else that's something that we'll look to continue to improve, evolve make better and your feedback is always welcome so for now thank you for watching hope you enjoyed that one and we'll be back very soon with more testing from Team Average I have a serious thing so start off LOL LOL describe honestly what you think are the looks of this golf club I'm not a fan of it at all LOL so the look of the club Don't you dare